A lot of people have made it known with Eternal that deathmatch is sorely missed. However, is it the main focus? No. Will the game fail without it? Fuck no. People play Doom to move fast and kill demons with cool guns. As long as the game has that, it’s a good Doom game.
Its like raging at nintendo for making another handheld console when that clearly worked well for them lol. Makes no sense. Ofc the devs would do whats most profitable and what they do best lmao
same energy as certain sonic fans saying Ian Flynn's writing is gonna kill sonic after people begging to get the writers from the comics in the games and after just getting past some of the worst writing in the series(the 2010s, known as the meta era)
DOOM has always been more about its campaign and gameplay rather then multiplayer. That’s one of the biggest reasons why it’s been a very successful franchise
It’s like getting mad at COD fans for criticising the MW3 2023 campaign because multiplayer exists. Campaign, multiplayer and zombies are the pillars of the franchise
DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal were so friggin' good, that it almost ruined every other game for me. Since I played the last two DOOM games, I barely even play videogames anymore. Every other game just feels so boring.
The Marauder is my favorite enemy in Eternal. Quite literally the definition of: "Skill Issue" People get so into the "zone" that they try to rush the Marauder like any other enemy, and they end up getting demolished. He makes you have to slow down and take your time, an oddity in Doom Eternal, which is fast-paced most of the time.
yea doom eternal also failed so badly because it was singleplayer ,it needs a battlepass and needs to be open world with seasons and cosmetic bundles and weekly 20 gig updates with squid game crossovers /s
Heres the thing. Doom had a very large death matching community, a long time ago. But regardless of the success of death matching in the OG Doom games, those days are long since passed. Doom was always about the single player expirence, period. Every single time. It never needed the multiplayer to be successful. The death matching it had just added to the success it already had just like modding did.
Multiplayer was one of the main reasons that made the game popular back in the day... Doom had a Very large death matching community back in The day, and still has a strong multiplayer community you can check zdaemon, zandronum, etc, there are still players playing actively to this day Treating modding as just a "simple addition of popularity" seems a bit unfair, as the modding community is very large and is keeping the classic Doom and The Doom Eternal alive and fresh.
Doom's pvp was a large part of its success in the 90s. That was back when there were no good gameplay mods out there, only extra maps and new graphics. Doom 2's maps were designed with pvp in mind as well (as funny as it sounds now because aside from Entryway and Dead Simple no one would even think to play vanilla Doom in pvp)
It's a shame if Doom: The Dark Ages doesn't get multiplayer, but to say Doom is dead because of multiplayer is as toxic as an angry kid screaming and crying in the back of a car because his parents got him a vanilla flavoured birthday cake instead of a chocolate one...
I recently purchased the pc version after having finished doom eternal on console years ago and how my god the game is so much better i already have 41.4 hours finished the campaign and dlc and i'll probably replay the main campaign again on nightmare multiple time before maybe attempting ultra. Ps for the people who would want doom slayer club skins that are no longer available i personally contacted support and they gave them to me.
I Don't mind if The Dark Ages is a 100 hours long singleplayer campaign. Just focus all the resources on making it as epic as possible. Hell, they could even make secret levels again like in classic Doom games, plus survival mode, master levels, etc...
bro nowadays games being that long is like asking jesus himself to come down from heaven and dap you up its most likely never going to happen but we can dream
new age tourist gamer, thinks everything has to either be competitive multiplayer focused or on the other end of the spectrum.. basically a movie that you press "x" to get through.
Damn you right. Don't worry Nintendo man will be there day one of Doom the Dark Ages ready to be like "guys Metroid for the GameCube is better then this why you all buying it"
More campaign levels, longer levels, better levels, maybe even more master levels…there are plenty of things to take up The multi space. Hell, bring back horde mode and refine it
Is this guy serious? I don't care if DOOM The Dark Ages is single player only, I never even cared about Battlemode in DOOM Eternal, Doom might be one of the earliest FPS's to have multiplayer, but multiplayer was more of Quake's thing. To boycott Doom for no multiplayer is like boycotting Call of Duty, not for valid reasons like Activision constantly nickel and diming us, but because one of the newer games doesn't have Zombies, which honestly should've stayed in Black Ops.
Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal were single player had multiplayer and most players played the single player and keep playing the game regardless of having multiplayer or not
Oh guys don’t forget…. It won’t have Mick Gordon… ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!!!! People who only like DOOM for the music (which is absolutely incredible, and what they did to Mick was horrible) don’t truly like doom, they like the music. That’s fine, but don’t say TDA is going to be horrible without Mick
Oh noo, the game that people play for the campain isnt getting multiplayer, how could they do this to us Anyways, id be willing to bet that they are still gonna buy it once it releases
He’s never played doom (1993), doom 2 and 3 on the game boy advance, and doom 64 on the n64. None of those have internet or any form of electric communication via radio waves
You do realize the single player which Hugo said they are aiming to make the best shooter EVER will be of such High Quality the community would rather have the all efforts be put into that instead of splitting its focus.
@@sneakycacti Good to know, they are so annoying with ideologies, currently really want to enjoy SpiderMan 2 coming to PC with mods to remove the cringe.
LOL. Can you imagine if they made DOOM Guy into a "strong" black woman? I'm sure the idea has already been suggested countless times, but the developers told the DEI freaks to take a hike.
Doom was literally originally made as a SINGLE PLAYER game, the multiplayer's were the most forgotten parts about Doom games, its MADE to be single player so complaining about a single player game be single player is.... outrageous. I'm so excited for Dark Ages that I'm literally getting a new custom built PC for the game. Doom fucking ROCKS!!
Facts, multiplayer was so relatively unimportant to DOOM that they removed it in DOOM 64, and the only use for it in the remakes is co-op The multiplayer isn't bad (well, kinda), just massively smaller in playerbase.
Yeah, so unimportnat it went into Quake and essentially spawned eSports... Team Fortress... CS... And the reply conveniently forgot Doom 3. And other id games with such unimportnat names like Quake 3, Wolfenstein ET etc etc
@doommaker4000 except Quake was inspired by D&D and Romero himself said the multiplayer idea popped into his mind while he was making up a sword battle in his own head. The only similarities Quake and Doom have development-wise are similar file names and being an FPS. Doom's multiplayer wasn't bad, but there's a reason everything was based off of the Quake engine, like TFC and most eSports.
Imagine being upset about a primarily single player focused franchise not including a multiplayer mode when you have literally hundreds of mid ass options to choose from already
The funniest thing is, the first two Dooms have an ample modding community, I can 100% bet that there's going to be a mod for Doom 2 that includes the Dark Age weapons and movement for use in multiplayer, so it's not even like multiplayer Dark Age is going to be impossible, it's just not going to be official.
Multiplayer modes and especially PVP kills videogames because of the endless nerfs neutering the fun for the guys who just wants the singleplayer experience and destroying bosses with crazy builds.
The multiplayer mode in Doom 2016 was pretty throwaway. Also, Doom 1 didn't have any dedicated deathmatch maps. They were all repurposed single player maps.
The Dark Ages is gonna be great regardless. But i do severely miss the Multiplayer and Snapmap from Doom (2016). They were such a blast. Eternal's and 2016's multiplayer are wildly different experiences. And battle mode just wasnt it.
There's a mod that allows you to play traditional deathmatch. Basically, everyone is Doom Slayer, everyone has a full arsenal of weapons with all upgrades, and you fight until there's only one player left alive (and it's round based). It uses mechanics from the campaign so you can meathook onto zombies for mobility and chainsaw / glory kill them for resources. It's pretty damn cool.
If you like Eternal you need to give Turbo Overkill a try, the fact that one person basically made that game is a testament to the fact AAA is beyond a joke.
Turbo Overkill is my all-time favorite indie game. BTW, have you ever played the old SEGA game "Vanquish"? I have a feeling that game inspired the developer of Turbo Overkill.
I couldn't care less about no multiplayer. I'm strictly a single player guy. I'm really looking forward to DOOM Dark Ages. I'd say day one purchase, but I prefer to wait till all the bugs are ironed out.
bruh , i finished the story like 3 4 times both in doom 2016 and eternal and completelly forgot they had a multiplayer mode, if they thake resources from that and put it into the campaign to make it better its gonna be great
At least this ain't Activision forcibly releasing CODs all the time, or GTA Online being milked dry. Doom is actually a breath of fresh air, especially since they're passionate about the project, and it's not just a money-grabber.
I love doom because it is single player. I play video games to escape the real world, that includes all the people in it too. I dont play video games to make friends, not everything has to be a social event .
i completed eternal three times already and don't plan to play doom eternal's multiplayer because it's slow af. i tried to play it but after 20 minutes i gave up because it did not connect to quickplay. I can't imagine someone buying doom 2016 or Eternal and instantly going to multiplayer.
If you want a game to by multiplayer, you have to design it around, at the cost of other things. typical multiplayer games have a small state size, that contradicts ideas like interactive environment or complex physics. In fact the bad random numbers in the original Dooms are a tradeoff, to keep the randoms number syncronized around a network.
I don't think that the Spongebob game he's playing on the background has an online multiplayer as well. I don't see him boycoating this game any time soon😂
Reminds me of the time when a few users complained about Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom not having online multiplayer in the comment section of KlutzyKing's video on Harman Smith dumping on Shadow of the Erdtree and I told those users TOTK was fine without MP but they insisted the game should've had it to begin with.
So then why did Concord fail? Was it a single-player game? No. It was a multiplayer game. How did Astro Bot succeed being a single-player game? Games dont need to be a multiplayer game to succeed.
Doom was never about MP really. While it is there, people just care more about the campaign and to find its secrets. Or, y'know, just demon slaying without relying on a MP experience. If the dude wanted a MP Doom-like experience, there's the Quake games. That one is heavily MP leaning. Besides, as far as I'm aware, you can choose to play as the Doom Guy in the Quake games, so you'd essentially be slaying, just not demons, and it's against other players.
I've played Doom since it came out for DOS and I've never played the multiplayer mode. Suppose developer research determined that 80% or more players only played campaign mode. In that case, they won't waste development time or money, and will instead focus those resources on making the game great.
I genuinely enjoy modern doom multiplayer, and don’t care about much but still enjoy a lot of it. Battle mode was one of my favorite parts. I hate the grind for getting secrets or like cheat codes and things, but my body has an intrigued from getting secrets
Getting rid of battle mode was the best idea ID has ever had, however they should bring back the community created levels from 2016. Those were fun and were multiplayer
Tbf I can feel this guy's pain a little bit, as I have got a few franchises that I loved for certain reasons doing a complete 180 from their original style to something that I personally never wanted those franchises to become. However, Doom is primarily a single player experience, therefore it should always prioritize single player over multiplayer. A franchise's identity is very important, it's okay to have the odd experiment, but that is all it should be imo.
"This game is dead because its single play" like you do know that the original doom is single player right? Like honestly no one plays doom 2016 or eternal because of multi-player
I have never truly played a Doom game. Mostly because I cannot play them well. My reactions are to slow. I still think they are fun games. I just can't complete them because I have trouble. I did finish one and two but I had to do it on rom and slow it down. I can't say I truly played them because of that.
Remember that Concord had multiplayer as a focus & look at how THAT GAME went. Not to mention a lot of those garbage Mario Party & Mario Kart clones we've had over the years. Shovelware like Merlin Racing, Shrek Super Party, M&M's Kart Racing, M&M's Beach Party, Jumanji on PS2, Cartoon Network Block Party, Billy the Wizard: Rocket Broom Racing, Action Girlz Racing, there's like a bajillion other such trash.
Dude... I only played Doom 2016 multiplayer for the online trophies, I can say the same thing about Doom Eternal's Battle Mode, but I haven't finished getting them there yet
Right. Because we haven’t seen time and time again, bad multiplayer games flopping and good singleplayer games breaking records. If only there was a franchise we could look towards to see this trend, like idk THE LAST TWO DOOM GAMES. The amount of ill informed individuals commenting on things they know nothing about is staggering this day and age
The multiplayer in both 2016 and Eternal were the weakest parts of those games and the reason this series has stood the test of time is because it's SINGLE PLAYER with a massive modding community.
Honestly it'll be hard for a Doom multiplayer to shine when Xbox also has Halo. Halo is already part arena shooter particularly with it's movement and player durability. Granted Halo has been crap lately considering that multiplayer was the only good thing about Halo 5, and that Halo infinite finally got it's shit together with it's multiplayer like 2 years ago. However, if Halo's online multiplayer ever got back to what it used to be with Halo 3 then Doom will never have a chance.
Tbh i think the only multiplayer related mode ive played in doom was the map building in the 2016 version. Creating random maps or death runs for me and my friends to play. Other than that, i just repeat the campaign over and over to see if i can beat it faster or on the highest difficulty.
Game felt impossible on Ultra Nightmare difficulty. I don't understand how anyone can finish the last two DOOM games without ever dying once??? I played the game on Nightmare difficulty, and easily died well over 100 times. I guess I just suck.
Man, I don't care if Doom has multiplayer or not. The snapmap was cool and having a Doom version of Super Mario Maker was is still insanely neat, but I still played it less than the singleplayer campaign. The two things I wished Eternal had was that demon cosmetics changed how the demons look in the campaign, and that the Horde Mode was infinite (i fr thought it was gonna be a survival mode) I'm not mad if multiplayer is gonna be neglected, if I wanted my demon slaughtering sim to be a social event, I'd go to VRChat, which would cost me literally nothing.
Between the successes of Doom 2016 and Eternal as well as the NightDive remaster of the classic games, Doom as a franchise has been doing phenomenally lately. Classic Doom in particular has never been livelier. So many new wad authors have entered the scene that there's always new stuff coming out. Really, I'm just glad that even after all these years, Doom is still Doom. Just about every other media franchise I grew up with in the 90s and 2000s is either dead or a shell of its former self. P.S.: I really hope Doom: The Dark Ages doesn't make me eat these words.
Hang on, Is that guy saying I've been ruining my life and not experiencing D00M at its fullest because I've never even touched multiplayer and should die because I've never cared for multiplayer? That's what I'm picking up from that guy. What an idiot. And he wondered why everyone hates him. You have earned a subscriber because I agree with you
As someone who’s poured 350 hours into Eternal, beat everything on ultra nightmare, have every achievement and milestone, yeah I don’t care about multiplayer. Battlemode was half baked anyway as someone who has a lot of experience with Eternal.
It's funny how anyone can believe the game will fail just because it's single player news flash doom is like one of the most iconic video games of all time I think as well more people would prefer great single player games rather than the multiplayer copy and paste slop they've given us for years at this point at least you can always go back to a single player game whenever u want multiplayer games can shut down it's servers for good if there isn't enough players do these people need to be reminded how much of a failure games like concord were that game had been in development for 8 or so years only to be shut down in a couple of weeks
Tbh ever since I bought my PS4 (got it in 2016 and sold it in 2022) *I NEVER* touched an online play *NEITHER* bought a PSPlus for online subscription all of my games were single player the only games I used to play multiplayer were CoD and it was against bots it was just to have in the console with creating weapons creativity
Wow, now THAT is a bad take that I never thought that I will hear. I mean, a game that was made since the 90s only for the single player in mind, was now gonna be bad because the new game in the series will not have the multiplayer mode. That is straight up a brain rot statement right there. And then, it was not confirmed yet if it will have multiplayer or not, but it doesn't stop that guy from raging and complaining about it. But again, like I said that, Doom main game mode was always single player for the ages, and multiplayer was added a lot later. So yeah, it ain't gonna be a bad game just because it probably not gonna have multiplayer mode, thus that guy needs to get over himself for his own good. Before people bombard his comments and him.
I absolutely loved the DOOM Dark Ages presentation. I loved all the new aspects of the game. DOOM is a single player game to me. And the fact they delve deeper into an actual story is awesome. I want to know more about the world. I also like the combat approach. More tanky and grounded with massive power. The ability to tweak the difficulty is great as well. You can make it super hard or very easy for people with low skills or accessibility issues. The environments looks fantastic and getting to play in the giant mech will be cool. I hope it's a big and long game.
Singleplayer is better because it will never be dead. You can always come back to a singleplayer game. Multiplayer only games are dead as soon as support or player numbers drop.
So....a game that people play SOLEY for the single player campaign will be bad.....because it's single player....big brain energy here boys.
I have autism and I can see that that guy is an idiot
A lot of people have made it known with Eternal that deathmatch is sorely missed.
However, is it the main focus? No. Will the game fail without it? Fuck no. People play Doom to move fast and kill demons with cool guns. As long as the game has that, it’s a good Doom game.
Its like raging at nintendo for making another handheld console when that clearly worked well for them lol.
Makes no sense. Ofc the devs would do whats most profitable and what they do best lmao
same energy as certain sonic fans saying Ian Flynn's writing is gonna kill sonic after people begging to get the writers from the comics in the games and after just getting past some of the worst writing in the series(the 2010s, known as the meta era)
Not single player. You mean ‘vIdEo GaMe MoViEs’ and ‘WaLkInG sImuLaToRs’
DOOM has always been more about its campaign and gameplay rather then multiplayer. That’s one of the biggest reasons why it’s been a very successful franchise
It’s like getting mad at COD fans for criticising the MW3 2023 campaign because multiplayer exists. Campaign, multiplayer and zombies are the pillars of the franchise
Multiplayer was a big part of classic Doom though...
@CRCR0201 I’m not saying multiplayer wasn’t a big deal for DOOM, just that a ID software put more work and effort into the single player campaign
Another reason Doom is so successful is because of the modding community.
DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal were so friggin' good, that it almost ruined every other game for me. Since I played the last two DOOM games, I barely even play videogames anymore. Every other game just feels so boring.
I've never seen one person who's played Doom just for the multiplayer...
And you will never, I assure you, I did play DOOM for a decade and a half.
I didn’t know there was multiplayer
I remember playing the multiplayer like 4 times lol 💀
OG doom is good for multiplayer ngl
I never played doom for multiplayer like at all, I always care about only smash exactly demons there 😆
Yeah, the new doom games are just brilliant single player games and I don’t even give the multiplayer any thought.
Didn't even know it had multi-player lol
Doom 2016’s multiplayer is fairly popular, I understand you for battle mode and battle mode 2.0 since those are actually ass
@juanjoyaborja.3054the multiplayer of 2016 is ok but it has almost no players... unfortunatly. And most people prefer Quake deathmatch anyway
Practically the most normal thing to do in doom games, focus on campaign which is what its good at.
Facts. They can put full focus on the singleplayer
He got violated by the marauder i know it
Most definitely
I hate the Marauder so much
The Marauder is my favorite enemy in Eternal. Quite literally the definition of: "Skill Issue"
People get so into the "zone" that they try to rush the Marauder like any other enemy, and they end up getting demolished. He makes you have to slow down and take your time, an oddity in Doom Eternal, which is fast-paced most of the time.
@@Moofshire Facts, only normie gamers whine about games that take more skill than "MuHh guN GoEs PeW Pew Pew!!"
@@cordvrCry about it
If only modern Bungie understood that people want Marathon to be single player and not a hero/extraction shooter.
And the people making Steel Hunters.
Yes bro godammit man
Marathon's going to end like Concord, have you seen how fucking ugly all the art looks
@Anthonybrother They should’ve taken the grungy 80s promotional art and made the game look like that.
yea doom eternal also failed so badly because it was singleplayer ,it needs a battlepass and needs to be open world with seasons and cosmetic bundles and weekly 20 gig updates with squid game crossovers /s
yeah you right we also needed crossover with Nicki Minaj because that's what I want Call Of Duty just slowly becoming Fortnite.
@ yea give us a Naruto and my hero academia crossover in doom or else the game will fail /s
peak
I’m digesting food…. Creating gas…. Where’s my special toilet dlc update for doom…. I need it….
Man we really needed that Skibidi toilet crossover, it would’ve saved doom eternal.
Heres the thing. Doom had a very large death matching community, a long time ago. But regardless of the success of death matching in the OG Doom games, those days are long since passed. Doom was always about the single player expirence, period. Every single time.
It never needed the multiplayer to be successful. The death matching it had just added to the success it already had just like modding did.
Multiplayer was one of the main reasons that made the game popular back in the day...
Doom had a Very large death matching community back in The day, and still has a strong multiplayer community
you can check zdaemon, zandronum, etc, there are still players playing actively to this day
Treating modding as just a "simple addition of popularity" seems a bit unfair, as the modding community is very large and is keeping the classic Doom and The Doom Eternal alive and fresh.
Doom's pvp was a large part of its success in the 90s. That was back when there were no good gameplay mods out there, only extra maps and new graphics. Doom 2's maps were designed with pvp in mind as well (as funny as it sounds now because aside from Entryway and Dead Simple no one would even think to play vanilla Doom in pvp)
I personally can do without multiplayer because I don’t got friends to play with in the first place
Real
I didn't even know that the last two DOOM games had multiplayer.
Bewm! I don't either...
That hit me hard
Average Doom fan:
It's a shame if Doom: The Dark Ages doesn't get multiplayer, but to say Doom is dead because of multiplayer is as toxic as an angry kid screaming and crying in the back of a car because his parents got him a vanilla flavoured birthday cake instead of a chocolate one...
💀
This guy definitely gives me those angry kid vibes 🤣
I play doom to rip and tear, not have playtime with others.
Hey, you better shut yo mouth.
Vanilla is the best.
I recently purchased the pc version after having finished doom eternal on console years ago and how my god the game is so much better i already have 41.4 hours finished the campaign and dlc and i'll probably replay the main campaign again on nightmare multiple time before maybe attempting ultra.
Ps for the people who would want doom slayer club skins that are no longer available i personally contacted support and they gave them to me.
Doom has always been a PC game first and foremost, even Doom 64 plays better on PC
You got in just in time now that official mod support is here
That's cool but pc is not for me, don't like it
I Don't mind if The Dark Ages is a 100 hours long singleplayer campaign. Just focus all the resources on making it as epic as possible. Hell, they could even make secret levels again like in classic Doom games, plus survival mode, master levels, etc...
Holy shit I would love a survival mode!!!
bro nowadays games being that long is like asking jesus himself to come down from heaven and dap you up its most likely never going to happen but we can dream
It’s very clear this guy has never played a single DOOM game if his main concern is that it’s single player.
He's clearly a Fortnite-playing NPC
new age tourist gamer, thinks everything has to either be competitive multiplayer focused or on the other end of the spectrum.. basically a movie that you press "x" to get through.
Guys its not gonna be good because metroid
Damn you right. Don't worry Nintendo man will be there day one of Doom the Dark Ages ready to be like "guys Metroid for the GameCube is better then this why you all buying it"
I’m hyped for both.
@@cjburrows3666 lol you bet Herman Smith will say Doom DA sucks and Metroid Prime 4 is the greatest .
@ Yes sir indeed he will
More campaign levels, longer levels, better levels, maybe even more master levels…there are plenty of things to take up The multi space. Hell, bring back horde mode and refine it
Doom has literally only been getting better over time, if you think the new game coming out soon is going to fail, you’d be statistically wrong.
Is this guy serious? I don't care if DOOM The Dark Ages is single player only, I never even cared about Battlemode in DOOM Eternal, Doom might be one of the earliest FPS's to have multiplayer, but multiplayer was more of Quake's thing. To boycott Doom for no multiplayer is like boycotting Call of Duty, not for valid reasons like Activision constantly nickel and diming us, but because one of the newer games doesn't have Zombies, which honestly should've stayed in Black Ops.
The undertale ost with doom in the background goes hard
Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal were single player had multiplayer and most players played the single player and keep playing the game regardless of having multiplayer or not
Dose any one remember mighty doom?
Yes.
I remember it being fun
The top down arcade-y style one? It was neat
Great little game, just got flame belched before it could get better, and no doubt it wouldve gotten better with bigger maps
Yep, still have my Vault-tec armor(don't have money to buy power armor). A shame that it took up too much space.
Oh guys don’t forget…. It won’t have Mick Gordon… ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!!!! People who only like DOOM for the music (which is absolutely incredible, and what they did to Mick was horrible) don’t truly like doom, they like the music. That’s fine, but don’t say TDA is going to be horrible without Mick
People just liked the metal soundtrack, it's not that deep.
@ I get that, I just don’t understand people who say “it’s not doom without Mick” or “I’m not getting because Mick’s not the composer”
Oh noo, the game that people play for the campain isnt getting multiplayer, how could they do this to us
Anyways, id be willing to bet that they are still gonna buy it once it releases
He’s never played doom (1993), doom 2 and 3 on the game boy advance, and doom 64 on the n64. None of those have internet or any form of electric communication via radio waves
Since when Doom 3 was on the GBA :p
@@MondySpartan oh crap I mistakenly put doom 3 on there. I have no idea why I put that there. Good catch
Doom has always been played for it's single player
It would be like saying people only played Battlefield for the campaign
Actually a lot of people did Battlefield ones campaign is literally a masterpiece same with two and three and four
You do realize the single player which Hugo said they are aiming to make the best shooter EVER will be of such High Quality the community would rather have the all efforts be put into that instead of splitting its focus.
The only thing capable to kill a franchise like DOOM would be DEI, and so far, no signs of them, hopefully will remain like this!
They are a Texas studio I’m pretty sure so nothing to worry about
@@sneakycacti Good to know, they are so annoying with ideologies, currently really want to enjoy SpiderMan 2 coming to PC with mods to remove the cringe.
I lost a lot of trust in AAA games since 2020 but ID software is one of the few i trust. So yeah, Dark Ages would be savage
Found the conservative lmao
DEI this DEI that, how bout u cry about it lmao
LOL. Can you imagine if they made DOOM Guy into a "strong" black woman? I'm sure the idea has already been suggested countless times, but the developers told the DEI freaks to take a hike.
Doom was literally originally made as a SINGLE PLAYER game, the multiplayer's were the most forgotten parts about Doom games, its MADE to be single player so complaining about a single player game be single player is.... outrageous. I'm so excited for Dark Ages that I'm literally getting a new custom built PC for the game. Doom fucking ROCKS!!
Facts, multiplayer was so relatively unimportant to DOOM that they removed it in DOOM 64, and the only use for it in the remakes is co-op
The multiplayer isn't bad (well, kinda), just massively smaller in playerbase.
@@icyatlasartworks multiplayer in doom is like story in a porn movie
Yeah, so unimportnat it went into Quake and essentially spawned eSports... Team Fortress... CS...
And the reply conveniently forgot Doom 3. And other id games with such unimportnat names like Quake 3, Wolfenstein ET etc etc
@doommaker4000 except Quake was inspired by D&D and Romero himself said the multiplayer idea popped into his mind while he was making up a sword battle in his own head. The only similarities Quake and Doom have development-wise are similar file names and being an FPS.
Doom's multiplayer wasn't bad, but there's a reason everything was based off of the Quake engine, like TFC and most eSports.
The multiplayer was not forgotten in Doom games. Also, Doom 64 didn't have multiplayer because of storage space.
Imagine being upset about a primarily single player focused franchise not including a multiplayer mode when you have literally hundreds of mid ass options to choose from already
The funniest thing is, the first two Dooms have an ample modding community, I can 100% bet that there's going to be a mod for Doom 2 that includes the Dark Age weapons and movement for use in multiplayer, so it's not even like multiplayer Dark Age is going to be impossible, it's just not going to be official.
Ngl he should be happy that multiplayer could be skipped cause of how multiplayer modes have handled in the industy for some years.
Doom 2016 had a multipayer mode and well it was mid as hell ... Its not a game centered around multiplayer.
Multiplayer modes and especially PVP kills videogames because of the endless nerfs neutering the fun for the guys who just wants the singleplayer experience and destroying bosses with crazy builds.
The multiplayer mode in Doom 2016 was pretty throwaway.
Also, Doom 1 didn't have any dedicated deathmatch maps. They were all repurposed single player maps.
I just remember it having a shitty map editor
Ive been playing Doom since 1993....never once played online. Ill save that mode for CoD, Battlefield, etc..
Theres only one slayer, not multiple battling it out
The Dark Ages is gonna be great regardless. But i do severely miss the Multiplayer and Snapmap from Doom (2016). They were such a blast.
Eternal's and 2016's multiplayer are wildly different experiences. And battle mode just wasnt it.
I honestly enjoyed Snapmap too.
There's a mod that allows you to play traditional deathmatch. Basically, everyone is Doom Slayer, everyone has a full arsenal of weapons with all upgrades, and you fight until there's only one player left alive (and it's round based). It uses mechanics from the campaign so you can meathook onto zombies for mobility and chainsaw / glory kill them for resources. It's pretty damn cool.
The MP was half baked, outsourced shit. Glad it’s gone. More resources for the real mode.
I really liked battlemode. I had such a fun time with people I met on that mode.
@@qu1253 That sounds actually kinda dope. I don't have a PC though.
Bruh in my life I haven’t seen anybody play doom multiplayer
EVERY TIME I see someone play doom is eter single player or campaign 💀
A single player game is bad, because it has single player. What a smart person we have in our society.
If you like Eternal you need to give Turbo Overkill a try, the fact that one person basically made that game is a testament to the fact AAA is beyond a joke.
Turbo Overkill is my all-time favorite indie game. BTW, have you ever played the old SEGA game "Vanquish"? I have a feeling that game inspired the developer of Turbo Overkill.
Multiplayer has always been an important part of doom, but in this day and age I guess it isn’t necessary
He says while playing Spongebob
Does SpongeBob have multiplayer? Nope
I couldn't care less about no multiplayer. I'm strictly a single player guy. I'm really looking forward to DOOM Dark Ages. I'd say day one purchase, but I prefer to wait till all the bugs are ironed out.
Even if doom dark ages doesn't have a online mod that's fine just make the game so good that people won't care about online mod will see
bruh , i finished the story like 3 4 times both in doom 2016 and eternal and completelly forgot they had a multiplayer mode, if they thake resources from that and put it into the campaign to make it better its gonna be great
Bro I Play Games for a Story/Lore anyway. People...
At least this ain't Activision forcibly releasing CODs all the time, or GTA Online being milked dry. Doom is actually a breath of fresh air, especially since they're passionate about the project, and it's not just a money-grabber.
“You see I saw a few articles so I’m just gonna believe them even though there has been no official word about it”
I love doom because it is single player. I play video games to escape the real world, that includes all the people in it too. I dont play video games to make friends, not everything has to be a social event .
This is like boycotting mcdonalds for having sub par salads.
I like how he is angry about a singleplayer game while using a singleplayer SPONGEBOB game as the background footage
i completed eternal three times already and don't plan to play doom eternal's multiplayer because it's slow af. i tried to play it but after 20 minutes i gave up because it did not connect to quickplay. I can't imagine someone buying doom 2016 or Eternal and instantly going to multiplayer.
If you want a game to by multiplayer, you have to design it around, at the cost of other things. typical multiplayer games have a small state size, that contradicts ideas like interactive environment or complex physics.
In fact the bad random numbers in the original Dooms are a tradeoff, to keep the randoms number syncronized around a network.
I don't think that the Spongebob game he's playing on the background has an online multiplayer as well. I don't see him boycoating this game any time soon😂
Reminds me of the time when a few users complained about Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom not having online multiplayer in the comment section of KlutzyKing's video on Harman Smith dumping on Shadow of the Erdtree and I told those users TOTK was fine without MP but they insisted the game should've had it to begin with.
Tbh idrc about multiplayer im missing the co-op mode
Tf is this guy’s logic!?DOOM was meant for single player.
So then why did Concord fail? Was it a single-player game? No. It was a multiplayer game. How did Astro Bot succeed being a single-player game? Games dont need to be a multiplayer game to succeed.
Meanwhile, i'm thanking the devs for not taking part of my lifespan away with multiplayer curse 🙏
Doom was never about MP really. While it is there, people just care more about the campaign and to find its secrets. Or, y'know, just demon slaying without relying on a MP experience.
If the dude wanted a MP Doom-like experience, there's the Quake games. That one is heavily MP leaning. Besides, as far as I'm aware, you can choose to play as the Doom Guy in the Quake games, so you'd essentially be slaying, just not demons, and it's against other players.
I've played Doom since it came out for DOS and I've never played the multiplayer mode. Suppose developer research determined that 80% or more players only played campaign mode. In that case, they won't waste development time or money, and will instead focus those resources on making the game great.
I genuinely enjoy modern doom multiplayer, and don’t care about much but still enjoy a lot of it. Battle mode was one of my favorite parts. I hate the grind for getting secrets or like cheat codes and things, but my body has an intrigued from getting secrets
Getting rid of battle mode was the best idea ID has ever had, however they should bring back the community created levels from 2016. Those were fun and were multiplayer
Tbf I can feel this guy's pain a little bit, as I have got a few franchises that I loved for certain reasons doing a complete 180 from their original style to something that I personally never wanted those franchises to become.
However, Doom is primarily a single player experience, therefore it should always prioritize single player over multiplayer.
A franchise's identity is very important, it's okay to have the odd experiment, but that is all it should be imo.
"This game is dead because its single play" like you do know that the original doom is single player right? Like honestly no one plays doom 2016 or eternal because of multi-player
When you try youtube essays but you just have shitty consoomer takes 🤣
I want to ask who actually played doom for the multiplayer
I wouldn't mind a multilayer for the campaign just so I could have a laugh with friends while murdering demons
I have never truly played a Doom game. Mostly because I cannot play them well. My reactions are to slow. I still think they are fun games. I just can't complete them because I have trouble.
I did finish one and two but I had to do it on rom and slow it down. I can't say I truly played them because of that.
Classic Doom isn't really that crazy like the new games
@XyamaProductions It isn't, but my reaction speed still sucks.
@@dwaynejackson551 You don't move as fast in the rebooted trilogy as the classic games
@@Anthonybrother Good to know. I will check it out
I have played Doom since 1995 and I have not played Doom multiplayer once.
Me not caring and only playing the single player stuff anyway:SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
Remember that Concord had multiplayer as a focus & look at how THAT GAME went. Not to mention a lot of those garbage Mario Party & Mario Kart clones we've had over the years. Shovelware like Merlin Racing, Shrek Super Party, M&M's Kart Racing, M&M's Beach Party, Jumanji on PS2, Cartoon Network Block Party, Billy the Wizard: Rocket Broom Racing, Action Girlz Racing, there's like a bajillion other such trash.
I don't think I have ever played one either Doom 2016's or Doom Eternal's multiplayer and thay are some of my favorite games.
I've never heard of such an L take in all my time on the internet
Cute pfp :3
I cant wait to play doom the dark ages ITS going to be so fun
Dude... I only played Doom 2016 multiplayer for the online trophies, I can say the same thing about Doom Eternal's Battle Mode, but I haven't finished getting them there yet
Right. Because we haven’t seen time and time again, bad multiplayer games flopping and good singleplayer games breaking records. If only there was a franchise we could look towards to see this trend, like idk THE LAST TWO DOOM GAMES. The amount of ill informed individuals commenting on things they know nothing about is staggering this day and age
Half Life 2 was singleplayer yet it was still a fantastic game
9:51 "Say that again..."
LOL, it's not dead. It's actually doing amazingly well and keeps looking up. Doom has never been about the multiplayer anyway.
The multiplayer in both 2016 and Eternal were the weakest parts of those games and the reason this series has stood the test of time is because it's SINGLE PLAYER with a massive modding community.
Admittedly, Doom 1 only had LAN multiplayer because LAN was much bigger in the 90s due to Internet being much slower than today.
Has any DOOM game had MP? I genuinelly need to check...
Single player is the only reason I play Doom. I didnt even know there was multiplayer.
honestly, I would love to see a co op for doom since it just sounds fun
Honestly it'll be hard for a Doom multiplayer to shine when Xbox also has Halo. Halo is already part arena shooter particularly with it's movement and player durability. Granted Halo has been crap lately considering that multiplayer was the only good thing about Halo 5, and that Halo infinite finally got it's shit together with it's multiplayer like 2 years ago. However, if Halo's online multiplayer ever got back to what it used to be with Halo 3 then Doom will never have a chance.
Tbh i think the only multiplayer related mode ive played in doom was the map building in the 2016 version. Creating random maps or death runs for me and my friends to play. Other than that, i just repeat the campaign over and over to see if i can beat it faster or on the highest difficulty.
Single player of Doom Eternal was big and hard enough. People need to stop complaining if we're going to get at least more of the same.
Game felt impossible on Ultra Nightmare difficulty. I don't understand how anyone can finish the last two DOOM games without ever dying once??? I played the game on Nightmare difficulty, and easily died well over 100 times. I guess I just suck.
So let's not forget.. THE GAME ISN'T EVEN 3 MONTHS FROM COMING OUT. IT'S STILL IN DEVELOPMENT!!
Man, I don't care if Doom has multiplayer or not. The snapmap was cool and having a Doom version of Super Mario Maker was is still insanely neat, but I still played it less than the singleplayer campaign. The two things I wished Eternal had was that demon cosmetics changed how the demons look in the campaign, and that the Horde Mode was infinite (i fr thought it was gonna be a survival mode)
I'm not mad if multiplayer is gonna be neglected, if I wanted my demon slaughtering sim to be a social event, I'd go to VRChat, which would cost me literally nothing.
How can someone complain about a single player game being a single player game while playing a single player game?
Between the successes of Doom 2016 and Eternal as well as the NightDive remaster of the classic games, Doom as a franchise has been doing phenomenally lately. Classic Doom in particular has never been livelier. So many new wad authors have entered the scene that there's always new stuff coming out. Really, I'm just glad that even after all these years, Doom is still Doom. Just about every other media franchise I grew up with in the 90s and 2000s is either dead or a shell of its former self.
P.S.: I really hope Doom: The Dark Ages doesn't make me eat these words.
I don’t know what more annoying. That guys ignorance or the SpongeBob gameplay he decided to use.
Hang on, Is that guy saying I've been ruining my life and not experiencing D00M at its fullest because I've never even touched multiplayer and should die because I've never cared for multiplayer? That's what I'm picking up from that guy. What an idiot. And he wondered why everyone hates him. You have earned a subscriber because I agree with you
As someone who’s poured 350 hours into Eternal, beat everything on ultra nightmare, have every achievement and milestone, yeah I don’t care about multiplayer. Battlemode was half baked anyway as someone who has a lot of experience with Eternal.
wait previous doom games have multiplayer?
Through lan parties yes and in 2016 with the dedicated mode
This person clearly never played Doom before 2016 and it shows.
Are you implying arena shooters are good?
It's funny how anyone can believe the game will fail just because it's single player news flash doom is like one of the most iconic video games of all time I think as well more people would prefer great single player games rather than the multiplayer copy and paste slop they've given us for years at this point at least you can always go back to a single player game whenever u want multiplayer games can shut down it's servers for good if there isn't enough players do these people need to be reminded how much of a failure games like concord were that game had been in development for 8 or so years only to be shut down in a couple of weeks
Tbh ever since I bought my PS4 (got it in 2016 and sold it in 2022) *I NEVER* touched an online play *NEITHER* bought a PSPlus for online subscription all of my games were single player the only games I used to play multiplayer were CoD and it was against bots it was just to have in the console with creating weapons creativity
Wow, now THAT is a bad take that I never thought that I will hear. I mean, a game that was made since the 90s only for the single player in mind, was now gonna be bad because the new game in the series will not have the multiplayer mode. That is straight up a brain rot statement right there. And then, it was not confirmed yet if it will have multiplayer or not, but it doesn't stop that guy from raging and complaining about it. But again, like I said that, Doom main game mode was always single player for the ages, and multiplayer was added a lot later. So yeah, it ain't gonna be a bad game just because it probably not gonna have multiplayer mode, thus that guy needs to get over himself for his own good. Before people bombard his comments and him.
Gotta love how people lose their minds when every game isn't exactly the same.
I absolutely loved the DOOM Dark Ages presentation. I loved all the new aspects of the game. DOOM is a single player game to me. And the fact they delve deeper into an actual story is awesome. I want to know more about the world. I also like the combat approach. More tanky and grounded with massive power. The ability to tweak the difficulty is great as well. You can make it super hard or very easy for people with low skills or accessibility issues. The environments looks fantastic and getting to play in the giant mech will be cool.
I hope it's a big and long game.
Singleplayer is better because it will never be dead.
You can always come back to a singleplayer game.
Multiplayer only games are dead as soon as support or player numbers drop.
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When he was talking I was picture spongebob saying what he was saying
Multiplayer no thanks, Single Player since Classic DOOM. What i dont want is Ray tracing & DLSS 3
I bet more people don't have a single multiplayer achievement in Doom 2016 or eternal than have any