I got mine from Bestbuy for $199 plus the $149 keyboard back in Nov. I love mine. I use mine as a 2nd monitor for my work laptop when I travel. It is also my back up when I travel.
Bought a defective one (for as far as I can find out, this device was never sold in Europe) from eBay, that actually turned out to be suffering a loose touch controller cable :P. 75 euro's. The only thing that seems to not exist as a separate product at certified reseller parts for HP is the magnetic keyboard. For the work that I do (Excel stuff) it can be practical to have, but I have been unable to find it. While I definitely do not complain for 75 euro's, because I also wanted to draw on it and bought a second hand pen, and I replaced Windows with Linux (Lubuntu) which actually works remarkably well (there are some caveats to look at), the keyboard would mostly be a nice to have.
I like the keyboard positioning. Sometimes, I want to go portrait mode to have two apps open in a stacked formation on my Surface Go, but that means I cannot use the keyboard. I also like how small the bezels are compared to my current laptop.
Thanks for answering the question regarding whether Linux will work on this tablet. That was the one thing I couldn't find the answer to anywhere else.
Lubuntu for me is the interesting distro (I could not get Arch installed, it refused to acknowledge the right partitions to be installed to) on this thing for being so light-weight, while some of the functions are actually detected (touch-screen) but require configuration and fiddling (which can be the "small things that don't work or don't work as expected"-thing with some Linux distro's). Elementary and Fedora Workstation worked much better for gesture recognition but both are about as heavy on RAM usage as Linux is, so to me not exactly practical.
Not bad but do wish this hit a lower price point for the full package. I think many who just want a tablet will orient themselves to other wider options. Those who want a fixed keyboard laptop can get a budget setup for less money with more powerful specs. If it was $399 with the keyboard and stylus I think it would be a hot seller.
Best Buy has been having it on sale at $349. I just ordered an open box for $219 with keyboard in excellent condition we’ll see when it gets her Sunday
Besides being made by HP, is this related to the Chromebook x2 11? They look similar, and both lack backlighting on the keyboard. The features like the camera and side mounting suggest it isn't a budget model, so no backlight seems a weird choice.
The parts list on the HP Parts Picker does not mention this keyboard being used on that particular Chromebook, it does however is used on some laptops, from what I was able to find.
While I don't use this with Windows: I went through 2 Linux installs from 100% charge, and after about 3,5 hours I was down to 64%. I can NOT obtain that with an ARM device at all. The battery makes up about 75% to 80% of the total volume inside (I bought a "defective" one and had to open it up to check out the touch control cable which jumped out of the motherboard connector, it works flawless, but as a result I saw the battery which is absolutely massive). The only thing I don't have is the keyboard, but that's not the biggest concern.
Do you mean the surface pro 5....no USBC is a bummer. I guess you can get a surface connect to USBC adapter. Although, Even a refurbish surface Pro 7 8/128 and i5 could be had for the same money, I imagine.
If you look, the pro 7 has been in the 500$ range WITH the keyboard lately. Without, you can find it 5-600$ all day long. That'll dominate this hp in performance. These 'silver' cpus are basically the politically correct way to say- Atom.
I like the look of this tablet and the aspect ratio, but coming from a surface pro, this device does not seem to measure up performance wise, and also no back lit keyboard either :(
I ended up installing Windows 10 on mine, Windows 11 was ABSOLUTELY atrocious for it's specs. I needed to have 11 installed to backup the drivers because finding them online for 10 was impossible. But Windows 10 runs 10x better on this tablet, and it's wonderful for small productivity or just daily web browsing and YT videos.
Lubuntu works. I haven't checked out UA-cam video yet. 1440p is pretty useless, because the horizontal resolution won't be met, so it would need to scale.
@@tiffanybailey2777 How well does the pen work? Also can you write/draw notes while your hand is on the screen? I bought a 3rd party stylus and I cant lay my hand on the screen while drawing lol Gotta know if its worth the price
From what I was able to find it also wasn't sold in Europe. I bought a "defective" one from the US on eBay as someone living in The Netherlands (Defective as in: it was actually working fine, it just had a loose cable inside for the touch layer).
@@miguelbravo1931 Understandable :) . I like fixing stuff (I bought a "broken" one on eBay that was actually fine, just required servicing inside) and messing around with it, in this case by putting Windows on it. Maybe the response helps anyone else :) .
When orientation detection is not superimportant, and some small things you need to setup (virtual keyboard), Lubuntu on this thing is pretty cool and lightweight (around 470 MB's in RAM after bootup, so a lot more room then with Windows 11 on it). It is actually decently fast for me at least.
$199 this Labor Day 2033 weekend with rear cover. $299 with keyboard. I think the Fed raising interest rates is killing sales and we are seeing retailers clear out inventory.
Nah, I just think this product might not have sold very well because of the low RAM usage. To me the processor is more than fine for what I do with it (Excel stuff at work and drawing at home) but it's the ram that requires you to be careful. Krita on Lubuntu works very well and with a 600 ppi A4 document open the tablet still wasn't swapping to the swap partition, and after putting in quite some strokes it still wasn't doing that. You need to remember that things that stay in stock to long also cost you as a company: it takes up space, and the longer it is there, the less value it holds. While the days of buying computer equipment and having severely outdated stuff in your hands the moment you walked out the door have changed, 4GB of RAM is superconservative to modern standards, so you can expect a device like this, at a possible heavy price point to not sell well. So at some point a store will make a decision to start selling it to clear the inventory for new products that'll sell better. (Also keep in mind that this product, at least with the pencil and tablet as a combination will contain at least 1 or 2 batteries: a big Lithium-ion cell, and an AAAA one for the pen. Even though protective packaging with the last and a storage charge for the tablet one will keep it good for a while, it won't last like that forever.)
I bought it fully loaded for 380$ , I return it after 3 days, nothing good about it except the screen, it lagged even for very simple task just browsing, windows ui is awful for touch, so if you buy it as a table you are pranked + its aluminium body get soooo hot it is painfully experience to used as a table , I literally hated using it ,
Yeah that was my first thoughts. Just ordered one from Best Buy for $220 with the keyboard. At that price point it seems like a win. It’s unfortunate they went with premium features and then gave it a N6000
@@AndrewGreenaway I put Linux on it (Lubuntu to be precise) but also tried Elementary OS. Both made the thing a WHOLE lot snappier than on the Windows 10 install that was on it (yes, I know they should come with 11, I bought a "defective" one that had a loose touch board cable inside, and I think the previous owner wanted to see if reinstalling Windows would fix things, and put 10 on it instead of 11, causing things to break). Lubuntu shines (470MB memory usage) and there's actually gesture recognition, you need to configure it, because it uses Qt, instead of Gnome or Wayland. (I will add I don't have the keyboard).
I'm surprised this didn't come up in the review, I was interested as a surface Go user until your comment, quite a bad omission from HP. Even Apple kept the 3.5 in the ipad
Easier/cheapier to manufacture, along with it being easier to make them sort of droplet-waterproof. Also safer because you can't simply plug anything in to hack it. I put Lubuntu on mine and had to really mess around to get it to actually boot that (but that's also me not having a lot of USB-C equipment, this is my first USB-C PD device).
Yeah, although I suspect by the time it's in retail stores for a few months, it'll be on sale dramatically. I noticed that with devices like the HP x11 Chromebook, which technically lists for $599 or something absurd but is often on sale for $299 or even $250. 0
I got mine from Bestbuy for $199 plus the $149 keyboard back in Nov. I love mine. I use mine as a 2nd monitor for my work laptop when I travel. It is also my back up when I travel.
Bought a defective one (for as far as I can find out, this device was never sold in Europe) from eBay, that actually turned out to be suffering a loose touch controller cable :P. 75 euro's. The only thing that seems to not exist as a separate product at certified reseller parts for HP is the magnetic keyboard. For the work that I do (Excel stuff) it can be practical to have, but I have been unable to find it.
While I definitely do not complain for 75 euro's, because I also wanted to draw on it and bought a second hand pen, and I replaced Windows with Linux (Lubuntu) which actually works remarkably well (there are some caveats to look at), the keyboard would mostly be a nice to have.
Thank you for the detail. Was considering this for our kid's school laptop.
I like the keyboard positioning. Sometimes, I want to go portrait mode to have two apps open in a stacked formation on my Surface Go, but that means I cannot use the keyboard. I also like how small the bezels are compared to my current laptop.
It's designed so that the keyboard can be used landscape or portrait.
Thanks for answering the question regarding whether Linux will work on this tablet. That was the one thing I couldn't find the answer to anywhere else.
Lubuntu for me is the interesting distro (I could not get Arch installed, it refused to acknowledge the right partitions to be installed to) on this thing for being so light-weight, while some of the functions are actually detected (touch-screen) but require configuration and fiddling (which can be the "small things that don't work or don't work as expected"-thing with some Linux distro's).
Elementary and Fedora Workstation worked much better for gesture recognition but both are about as heavy on RAM usage as Linux is, so to me not exactly practical.
As of today, 8/27/22 Best Buy has it on sale for $199. No trade in needed . Sale ends on 29th
I picked one up couldn't resist lol
@@rob465 ordered mine for pickup just a few min ago as well!
$299 with the keyboard; $199 without keyboard
That one at BB is only 4gb ram. Not the same!
I got this at Best Buy for 150 but I don't have the keyboard. Would a surface 11 keyboard work??
Does it have playstore or appstore ?
Not bad but do wish this hit a lower price point for the full package. I think many who just want a tablet will orient themselves to other wider options. Those who want a fixed keyboard laptop can get a budget setup for less money with more powerful specs. If it was $399 with the keyboard and stylus I think it would be a hot seller.
Best Buy has been having it on sale at $349. I just ordered an open box for $219 with keyboard in excellent condition we’ll see when it gets her Sunday
@@AndrewGreenaway BB version only has 4 gb ram!
@@ttfidrat even with 4gb ram $219 was a great deal for what it offers. Sorry for my mistake please admonish me!
Wonder how it compares with windows arm / surface tablets
Well, at least pure specs-wise, it's really similar to the mid-tier Surface Go 3, so it shouldn't be too far-off.
Besides being made by HP, is this related to the Chromebook x2 11? They look similar, and both lack backlighting on the keyboard. The features like the camera and side mounting suggest it isn't a budget model, so no backlight seems a weird choice.
The parts list on the HP Parts Picker does not mention this keyboard being used on that particular Chromebook, it does however is used on some laptops, from what I was able to find.
Can you take pictures with this camera ?
10/10 form factor but battery life should be doubled combined with Arm processor
While I don't use this with Windows: I went through 2 Linux installs from 100% charge, and after about 3,5 hours I was down to 64%. I can NOT obtain that with an ARM device at all. The battery makes up about 75% to 80% of the total volume inside (I bought a "defective" one and had to open it up to check out the touch control cable which jumped out of the motherboard connector, it works flawless, but as a result I saw the battery which is absolutely massive).
The only thing I don't have is the keyboard, but that's not the biggest concern.
*waves awkwardly back 👋😐
I like it so much
For the price - I’m thinking a refurbished Microsoft surface 5 with an i7 and 16GB of ram …
Do you mean the surface pro 5....no USBC is a bummer. I guess you can get a surface connect to USBC adapter. Although, Even a refurbish surface Pro 7 8/128 and i5 could be had for the same money, I imagine.
If you look, the pro 7 has been in the 500$ range WITH the keyboard lately. Without, you can find it 5-600$ all day long. That'll dominate this hp in performance. These 'silver' cpus are basically the politically correct way to say- Atom.
Look for the Surface 7 + , its the latest revision of the Surface 7 and can be found for $350-$400
I like the look of this tablet and the aspect ratio, but coming from a surface pro, this device does not seem to measure up performance wise, and also no back lit keyboard either :(
Would not expect it to .
Surface pro costs 3 times more.
I ended up installing Windows 10 on mine, Windows 11 was ABSOLUTELY atrocious for it's specs. I needed to have 11 installed to backup the drivers because finding them online for 10 was impossible.
But Windows 10 runs 10x better on this tablet, and it's wonderful for small productivity or just daily web browsing and YT videos.
WHat about Linux UA-cam fullhd and min 1440p any frames drops?
Lubuntu works. I haven't checked out UA-cam video yet. 1440p is pretty useless, because the horizontal resolution won't be met, so it would need to scale.
What is the model number for the pen/Stylus? I need to order one. Thanks
Did you ever find a compatible pen?
@@jjdubs13 I did thank you!!!
@@tiffanybailey2777 Which one was it?
HP MPP 1.51 😁
@@tiffanybailey2777 How well does the pen work? Also can you write/draw notes while your hand is on the screen? I bought a 3rd party stylus and I cant lay my hand on the screen while drawing lol Gotta know if its worth the price
unfortunately, this model isn’t sold in HK
From what I was able to find it also wasn't sold in Europe. I bought a "defective" one from the US on eBay as someone living in The Netherlands (Defective as in: it was actually working fine, it just had a loose cable inside for the touch layer).
can i do a clean windows 10pro on this tablet?
Nope. Most drivers, including the touch screen control won't work, just like the sound card.
@@Dutch3DMaster thanks but i sold the tablet got me a better one
@@miguelbravo1931 Understandable :) . I like fixing stuff (I bought a "broken" one on eBay that was actually fine, just required servicing inside) and messing around with it, in this case by putting Windows on it.
Maybe the response helps anyone else :) .
Something like this with more horsepower to run W11/WSL and Android could be cool.
what if's are great. this release is dissapponting.
When orientation detection is not superimportant, and some small things you need to setup (virtual keyboard), Lubuntu on this thing is pretty cool and lightweight (around 470 MB's in RAM after bootup, so a lot more room then with Windows 11 on it).
It is actually decently fast for me at least.
need help set up youtube on tablet
$199 this Labor Day 2033 weekend with rear cover. $299 with keyboard. I think the Fed raising interest rates is killing sales and we are seeing retailers clear out inventory.
Only 4gb ram version!
Nah, I just think this product might not have sold very well because of the low RAM usage. To me the processor is more than fine for what I do with it (Excel stuff at work and drawing at home) but it's the ram that requires you to be careful.
Krita on Lubuntu works very well and with a 600 ppi A4 document open the tablet still wasn't swapping to the swap partition, and after putting in quite some strokes it still wasn't doing that.
You need to remember that things that stay in stock to long also cost you as a company: it takes up space, and the longer it is there, the less value it holds.
While the days of buying computer equipment and having severely outdated stuff in your hands the moment you walked out the door have changed, 4GB of RAM is superconservative to modern standards, so you can expect a device like this, at a possible heavy price point to not sell well.
So at some point a store will make a decision to start selling it to clear the inventory for new products that'll sell better.
(Also keep in mind that this product, at least with the pencil and tablet as a combination will contain at least 1 or 2 batteries: a big Lithium-ion cell, and an AAAA one for the pen. Even though protective packaging with the last and a storage charge for the tablet one will keep it good for a while, it won't last like that forever.)
Wow, interesting
I bought it fully loaded for 380$ , I return it after 3 days, nothing good about it except the screen, it lagged even for very simple task just browsing, windows ui is awful for touch, so if you buy it as a table you are pranked + its aluminium body get soooo hot it is painfully experience to used as a table , I literally hated using it ,
Lost me at Pentium Silver. Hard pass. Great video as usual tho!
Yeah that was my first thoughts. Just ordered one from Best Buy for $220 with the keyboard. At that price point it seems like a win. It’s unfortunate they went with premium features and then gave it a N6000
@@AndrewGreenaway I put Linux on it (Lubuntu to be precise) but also tried Elementary OS. Both made the thing a WHOLE lot snappier than on the Windows 10 install that was on it (yes, I know they should come with 11, I bought a "defective" one that had a loose touch board cable inside, and I think the previous owner wanted to see if reinstalling Windows would fix things, and put 10 on it instead of 11, causing things to break).
Lubuntu shines (470MB memory usage) and there's actually gesture recognition, you need to configure it, because it uses Qt, instead of Gnome or Wayland.
(I will add I don't have the keyboard).
Why they don't make windows tablet with amd processor. It will be more powerful with better power efficiency
Form-factors. I can't recall AMD ever having been big in the mobile market honestly. I could be wrong, but Intel, just like ARM really won there.
no aux jack, no buy
Very dissappointing
I'm surprised this didn't come up in the review, I was interested as a surface Go user until your comment, quite a bad omission from HP. Even Apple kept the 3.5 in the ipad
Get a simple USB c hub.
Horizontal and landscape are the same thing
Could I invite you to review our MINI PC?
idk why nowaday windows tablet/laptop lack of ports..
Blame Apple Macs for that
Easier/cheapier to manufacture, along with it being easier to make them sort of droplet-waterproof.
Also safer because you can't simply plug anything in to hack it. I put Lubuntu on mine and had to really mess around to get it to actually boot that (but that's also me not having a lot of USB-C equipment, this is my first USB-C PD device).
intel pentium processor hmmm not even an intel 3 or 5 on it
600$ Laptop that cant game? what are we paying for .
Way overpriced for that CPU.
Yeah, although I suspect by the time it's in retail stores for a few months, it'll be on sale dramatically. I noticed that with devices like the HP x11 Chromebook, which technically lists for $599 or something absurd but is often on sale for $299 or even $250. 0
The screen is actually the most expensive part of phones and tablets... Just like how the sensor in digital camera's is the most expensive.