Well we mustn't forget Colin Kennedy a proud Afghan veteran belonging to Ayrshire in Scotland where he lived in a large farmhouse and lived the life of Larry.
@bbear1971 I'm not sure about that - we are remembering those who served and died for the freedom in their country. Starmer is a traitor and should keep away from anything to do with brave people who loved this country and its people.
So a pensioner gets an average of £13k no heating allowance. An MP gets over £100k and gets heating allowance. Illegals get free heating. Disgusting decision by Labour.
Why dont they cut the heating in Parliament ,let them feel what pensioners will feel, talk about the NHS being overwhelmed ,well they can expect more than that over the winter when the elderly suffer from pneumonia and hypothermia ,the beds will be full of the elderly or sat in corridors, while the boat people sit in luxury warmth in hotels paid by our hard working tax payers who still struggle to pay their own bills, Disgusting.!!
If more older people end up in hospital due to pneumonia it wouldn't surprise me if Labour covers their own backsides and blame it on a new wave of 2020 and blame the pensioners for not getting certain spiky medications.
Well, remember Gordon Brown's speech on the suffering last winter, about the hot water bottles to be donated to his charity? Ostensibly to help poor people stay warm! Well what is he saying now? Nothing.
How many people have died because of the Tories 14 Years long austerity policy and the total collapse of the Health and social sector? Hundreds of thousands!!! Check the facts for a change instead following the stupid herd. I definitely continue voting for Labour. Long live Starmer!!
Google Paul Chambers and his unfunny misguided tweet on wanting an airport destroyed. Then see how KS drove the prosecution despite his dept not wanting to bother. The guy is a vindictive zealot when he wants to be.
Protected in "pandemic" don't make me laugh,the Tories fully supported by kid starver systematically murdered lots of people in lockdown including the culling of all the grannies in care homes via the midazolam scandal!
Keir Starmer, and the government he leads, have clearly shown just how vindictive they are, while I am not surprised, it is a betrayal of what the Labour Party once was. Parliament has confirmed just how indifferent to those who worked to provide what they are now trashing.
It wasn't just pensioners who voted to leave the corrupt failed European Union, I know a fair few middle aged, and younger ones that voted to leave, too!
that just shows how little respect you have for the war dead, remembrance sunday is not the day to make any kind of protest and public opinion would be against you
How can anyone with a knighthood be the leader of the Labour Party??? A party built by unions and the working people !! As a working class bricklayer brought up in NE england/Newcastle, its Its disgusting abhorrent and Labour are never getting my vote again as long as I live.
A Knighthood used to be about service to your country. But if you look now it's part of the pay for Civil Servants and a political prize for people like Starmer who loathe and despise the country they stood to represent.
Miliband is akin to an office document shredder, an auto scrap yard crusher or an iron foundry smelter. Total destruction right down to the last gram. I remember his wife's comment during his campaign when he was Labour leader. "I think Ed will make a fine Prime Minister". Thank God, Jesus and Mother Mary that we were saved from that one.
Unfortunately they will. In five years time many of the pensioners suffering will be gone as we approach another general election they will vote for whoever promises the best option in the last weeks even though you can be sure all those promises will be broken as soon as they get into power.
It’s because they are almost entirely native white British. Around 96% of pensioners. They are not one of the UniPartys client groups. Muslims and other brown New Britons.
I’m a pensioner that’s always voted labour, well I’ve just learnt a lesson and i know all the Tory’s and reform voters will give me stick,well bring it on i deserve it
@@anitachisnell8412you were duped he has not done anything he promised in his manifesto. Why has no one asked about their allowance.I was a lifelong labour voter until this election and voted reform he reminds me of dr. Christie from 10 Rillington Place
@@johnwaldrum801 I’ve never voted Labour, they are Marxists without the war. That’s what the Fabian Society Describes itself as. I watched a very old video of Bernard B Shaw saying what he thought every citizen should have to do to be allowed to live. A madman! The video is still there to find. He was saying that a person should go before a panel and give there reason why they deserve to live. I don’t believe in socialism like they do! I don’t believe in blaming and dividing ourselves any more than what this government wants to do with people. I voted Reform, got my Mum to as well, educated her, lol!
A lot of Labour voters are middle aged women who are big on empathy and believe the state should provide. I can't see freezing pensioners to death sitting well with them.
Perhaps this will wake the huge numbers who never vote to get Labour and Tories out of their comfortable seats in next years local elections by voting for Reform..
If this government doesnt make you ill with the thought of what they are doing right now ! Wait till its you ! If you dont stand up for your elderly then you are not better than these politicians 😢 bloody sad day
Rod liddle just brilliant 👏...veterans turn their backs on him rememberence Sunday...starmer will probably place a Palestinian wreath on the cenotaph!...twonk😢...
I think 2 things 1) a gang of us pensioners should now surge on Downing street take over number 10 and 11 for the winter I bet its lovely and warm in there. 2) Reeves and Stoma oops sorry Starmer should sit in the home of an OAP in the winter every day for a month without the heating on and nothing to do all day and see how they cope! Getting colder and colder to the point of losing their core body temperatures.
Bet Stammer told each and every labour MP to vote for today's bill, or else they'd have to listen to sound of the Labour whip. Why, why is Labour targeting pensioners? Where are the cuts for the MP salaries, some MPs have never uttered a single word in parliament
My home is built on top of the coal mines, my home is too cold to live in during the winter , l can’t have my daughter and grandson visit in the winter. Thankfully l stay with them in the winter..
If we get a hard winter, and some old people die of cold because they can't afford to heat their home, i think this will haunt Reeves and Stamer and their cowardly MPs right up to the 2029 election.
The over 60s may not vote labour, but many of them have children and grandchildren, and they will not be happy about what this government are doing to their elder loved ones
The pressure this will put on the already rundown NHS will be headlines through the winter. We all need to make sure our parents, grandparents and elderly neighbours are warm this winter. But we also need to remember due the the energy price increases, all ages are will be suffering, The energy prices need to come down.
Fat chance of prices coming down, especially after Millibands attack on the North Sea platforms, prices will only go one way - up and up and up and up ! This country needs to get fracking up and running and stop listening to the nimbys.
If they need to save money, then they should remove expense accounts for every MP & if they receive donations, they should all have to be handed in & go into the privy purse. Let them pull their belts in not expect every one else but them to do so.
Working for social services we are not allowed to take thank you gifts from clients, if it's to rude to decline we have to take to the office to share. How come MP take thousands 🤔
@@deniseclarke8580 Exactly so. This is normal practice elsewhere but apparently MPs can accept money, goods, use of holiday accommodation & not even counted for tax purposes
Remembrance day i do hope no one goes from the government.. how can you face all the older generation who fought for freedom which starmer and his merry men have taken away.. shame on all of you.. stammer stay away from the in the warm while people pay respects to our dead and elderly heros
I complainted about this to my MP after a long fluted reply i was told that the previous govenment only allowed from memory 350 million but this govenment expects to pay £6billion on Asylum seekers. I have no problem with legal asylum seekers but how much of the 6 Billion is being spent on illegals, roughly it £100 per person per year. Strange thinking.
i think the local elections could wipe out Labours majority in the coming future because of this criminal act, and every old person who dies from the cold will be linked to those who voted to remove the fuel payments while they still receive their £4500 per year fuel allowance
local council elections won't have any effect on the labour majority in parliament. They will have this parliamentary majority until 2029, except for the very occasional by-election caused by an mp standing down or sadly passing away, or by some other infrequent means of an mp needing to be changed by the party. None of which will change the majority by anything other than a small number of seats.
Freezing pensioners will save about £1 billion. But didn't we hear the government have just allowed public sector workers another over inflation pay rise, which will cost about £11 billion?
Good idea. Maybe a copy though, just to show the real costs of the tiniest bit of heat. I'll do it. Anyone out there on social media to put this idea around?
Rod, I agree with you about Starmer getting away with it. It was test, which he has survived, which he expected to do, and will do exactly what you said: punish those who did not vote for him and reward those who did, all in the first 12-18 months. Many commentators, and those who post their comments, have seemed to miss this completely, letting their own indignation get in the way of a balanced assessment of the likely long term effects.
I really despise these calculated ruthless tactics of these so called politicians. I hope that the working class do not fall for this cynical attack on those that they feel are collateral in their games. I will not forget or forgive.
I work in the public sector and i would gladly forfeit a rise to enable the pensioners to stay warm this winter. I am among the lower paid workers. Most of my colleagues feel the same.
£11.5billion of our tax money sent overseas for Net Zero!!!. £8billi9n for GB energy a company that does not exist !!!!. Let the OAP go cold and hungry. Shocking.
He’s stopped the money to pensioners saying it’s not targeted enough. Well, does that mean child benefit is next, as that is also not means tested? They’re coming for each of us, one at a time.
@@Andrew-tx9jy evidence says otherwise. All protesters are classed as right wing and therefore criminal. All pensioners are losing money regardless of their inability to heat their home. Next will be all car users charged per mile, then further taxes on calories on food. They are coming for you next, one policy at a time, all to fund their own idiotic ideologies.
I would like you all to take it up with the government as to why there's such a difference between the Basic and New pension. Plus ask them why they never speak about this and only talk happily about the New pension. Pensioners on the Basic pension are the invisible forgotten people in this country
You only needed to look what labour has done for wales for the last ten years or more they more interested in cutting speed limits and changing village signage to Welsh when most of us could not give a hoot about signs being in Welsh but they let port talbot loose their biggest employer hate the labour gov
I work for the public sector. I have never and will never vote labour. I think people are finally seeing the real labour party. My city is a labour heartland. I think they may get a shock at elections after this.
I like Kevin but I think he is wrong to say that Starmer "underestimated" the probable backlash to cutting the heating allowance. He has political analysts and polling experts who will have told him exactly what response he would get in advance. I think he has done it precisely BECAUSE HE KNEW it would lead to a massive backlash. Why? I don't know but it seems like someone wants "public unrest" in advance of some type of crackdown. That may sound cynical but I can't see any other explanation.
Pensioners have a long memory and this will not be forgotten in a hurry. Starmer also needs to realise it's not just the Pensioners but their families who will also suffer.
As a pensioner and union man all my life I am disgusted that the Unions have accepted this pay rise once they knew the pensioners were paying for it. If they had any decency they would have refused the wage increase if pensioners had to suffer to pay it. I speak as a pensioner who agrees that the fuel payment should be means tested, so any pensioner getting less than £15,000 a year should get it
How will that snake have the bare faced cheek to walk up to the cenotaph and lay a wreath on behalf of the government, in front of thousands of pensioners, that he has thrown to the wolves.
Every one, and i mean everyone needs to get out for the local Elections next May, if you have made it though the winter, get out and vote Reform UK and send the message to Starmer and Labour once and for all!
Starmer should stay away from remembrance Sunday...pensioners should turn there backs on him...
I heard the veterans are planning to do just that.
@paulsawtell3991 I hope so. Starmer is a traitor to the UK and it's citizens - he should have his knighthood removed.
what a really brilliant idea, i dont like the idea of a demented dalik on a prowl about going anywhere near our war dead
I really hope they do turn there backs on him he's not worthy or fit for purpose. Rayner and Reeves need to go as well
@@paulsawtell3991 I didn't, you made it up.
Reeves has taken her £3700 fuel allowance, total hypocrites.
How on earth do they spend £3,700 on heating?
Not very eco friendly to be using that much energy. Blatant greed and gluttony.
That for the 3 nd house. @@wolfpack10
@@wolfpack10
She probably bought some dodgy solar panels off Ed Milliband.
Week 1 as chancellor she paid herself £310grand for self pleasure? Week 2 put in a mps expenses claim for £17 grand where has £327 grand gone..
@@stevenmoses5807she has no sole she is just a peracite blood sucking leach, 💯💯💯
Starmer and his mps should not be allowed anywhere near a rememberance sunday event as it will be an insult to those who served
Well we mustn't forget Colin Kennedy a proud Afghan veteran belonging to Ayrshire in Scotland where he lived in a large farmhouse and lived the life of Larry.
I hope the veterans go ahead with their protest and turn their backs on Starmer.
I hope you get so many people that day to SHOUT him out THAT DAY. Luv from 🇨🇦
@@bbear1971😊❤
@bbear1971 I'm not sure about that - we are remembering those who served and died for the freedom in their country.
Starmer is a traitor and should keep away from anything to do with brave people who loved this country and its people.
So a pensioner gets an average of £13k no heating allowance. An MP gets over £100k and gets heating allowance. Illegals get free heating. Disgusting decision by Labour.
The game is rigged. That's why nobody should ever listen to a word any politician say. They are corrupt to the core.
Starmer don’t turn up on Remembrance Day . Traitors not Welcome.☘️🇬🇧😡👍
Traitor surrounded by cowards liars and cronies!.
Blood on their hands i am disgusted. I have no confidence in my local MP Lewis Atkinson SHAME ON YOU and the whole of Labour
I believe my mp Jake Richard’s rother valley voted with the traitors , I emailed him quite a few times to vote against ,he will be history guaranteed
KICK STARMER OUT
No. YOU should be send to Ruanda.
Why dont they cut the heating in Parliament ,let them feel what pensioners will feel, talk about the NHS being overwhelmed ,well they can expect more than that over the winter when the elderly suffer from pneumonia and hypothermia ,the beds will be full of the elderly or sat in corridors, while the boat people sit in luxury warmth in hotels paid by our hard working tax payers who still struggle to pay their own bills, Disgusting.!!
Damn good idea.
If more older people end up in hospital due to pneumonia it wouldn't surprise me if Labour covers their own backsides and blame it on a new wave of 2020 and blame the pensioners for not getting certain spiky medications.
Just wait until the council elections next year. Families will vote against Labour, especially if they have lost loved ones.
reform
Well, remember Gordon Brown's speech on the suffering last winter, about the hot water bottles to be donated to his charity? Ostensibly to help poor people stay warm! Well what is he saying now? Nothing.
Do you mean losing loved ones over the prisoner release or the cutting of the fuel allowance or both?
How many people have died because of the Tories 14 Years long austerity policy and the total collapse of the Health and social sector? Hundreds of thousands!!! Check the facts for a change instead following the stupid herd. I definitely continue voting for Labour.
Long live Starmer!!
@@ReinholdBinder-d9nNHS is in this state because of bad management but hey let's give the train drivers a massive rise and no help to pensioners
It's all about Brexit, childish revenge, against those that voted leave.
And i would still vote leave Reform every time 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Yep and ever since then this is what the leftys have been like
For Starmer pensioners are his yesterday.His tomorrow is immigrants.He's not a Leader he's a Human Rights lawyer.
Starmer is a megalomaniac..? Simples.
Worse, he is also a communist.
Google Paul Chambers and his unfunny misguided tweet on wanting an airport destroyed. Then see how KS drove the prosecution despite his dept not wanting to bother. The guy is a vindictive zealot when he wants to be.
Absolutely scandalous, the same ppl we had to protect during the pandemic, can die now. I am so speechless 🤬🤬🤬
Protected in "pandemic" don't make me laugh,the Tories fully supported by kid starver systematically murdered lots of people in lockdown including the culling of all the grannies in care homes via the midazolam scandal!
This cut will probably cost the NHS more this winter!
Keir Starmer, and the government he leads, have clearly shown just how vindictive they are, while I am not surprised, it is a betrayal of what the Labour Party once was. Parliament has confirmed just how indifferent to those who worked to provide what they are now trashing.
They are punishing pensioners for voting for Brexit and for not voting Conservative. Simple.
Still crying over the result are you,,,,,, sob sob sob
@@jimoconnor2594 How about you? Are YOU still crying over Brexit? I bet you are.
We didn’t even get Brexit done properly so stop your whining go live in France if you want it that much .
It wasn't just pensioners who voted to leave the corrupt failed European Union, I know a fair few middle aged, and younger ones that voted to leave, too!
@@laurameszaros9547 couldn't get Brexit done properly because of the arse hole remoaners... are you a remoaner ?
Boo starmer on remberance day please
that just shows how little respect you have for the war dead, remembrance sunday is not the day to make any kind of protest and public opinion would be against you
Will he have his poppy on or off?
Pure revenge on british folks.
Labour will really pay the price for doing this at next year's councils elections.
8.5 billion a year to house migrants with free heating, but no 1.5 billion for pensioners who paid into the corrupt system all their lives.
How can anyone with a knighthood be the leader of the Labour Party??? A party built by unions and the working people !! As a working class bricklayer brought up in NE england/Newcastle, its
Its disgusting abhorrent and Labour are never getting my vote again as long as I live.
A Knighthood used to be about service to your country. But if you look now it's part of the pay for Civil Servants and a political prize for people like Starmer who loathe and despise the country they stood to represent.
Fuel allowance for MPs , I thought rich people weren’t going to get it.....confused
Jesus. This is so f*****ng depressing.
Imagine what Britain will look like in 2029 with this lot in charge 😡😡😡🇬🇧
@lisaarcan
I agree with you . However there's no need to put the lord's name in vain !
@@johnmccann5104a third world country perhaps?
@@michellejones1618 in the words of Oasis Michelle....."Definitely Maybe"🤔🇬🇧
Why is no one asking about the hotel bill for the illegals
Along with the convicts that got let out yesterday. Some of those are now being put up in hotels. Absolutely beyond belief 🤬
Labour party is finished reform for me
The people who said Labour would be in serious trouble by the end of the year were right.
Yes they will be, But WE are stuck with them for FIVE YEARS
@@jackmchammocklashing224 perhaps...or perhaps not. In 2019 the Tories looked solid...now look at them.
Miliband will do more damage than herr Starmer..
God he looks and sounds so gormless!!😂
He's the most dangerous man in the country
Miliband is akin to an office document shredder, an auto scrap yard crusher or an iron foundry smelter. Total destruction right down to the last gram. I remember his wife's comment during his campaign when he was Labour leader. "I think Ed will make a fine Prime Minister". Thank God, Jesus and Mother Mary that we were saved from that one.
The voters won't forget
Unfortunately they will. In five years time many of the pensioners suffering will be gone as we approach another general election they will vote for whoever promises the best option in the last weeks even though you can be sure all those promises will be broken as soon as they get into power.
@@Mazalinda No they won't the opposition won't let them
It’s because they are almost entirely native white British. Around 96% of pensioners. They are not one of the UniPartys client groups. Muslims and other brown New Britons.
Wow as a white pensioner i think your spot on and well spotted and well observed..
ARE THE MPS GIVING BACK THERE £4000 00 FUEL ALOWENCES ??????????? VOTE REFORM
"make them look weak and useless" ?! They are, weak and useless cowards, as evidenced by the targeting of the vulnerable.
He totally refused to pay pensioners heating allowance WE DONT ACCEPT,. PAY. PER. MILE
Was just wondering if all the illegal immigrants could adopt a pensioner each and keep them warm in their cosy, taxpayer funded billets?
no we could go shoplifting fill our fridges and sell the rest cheap so we can have the heatng on
Lots of labour MPs could lose their seats in May.
Let's hope so...👍
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.
George Orwell
I’m a pensioner that’s always voted labour, well I’ve just learnt a lesson and i know all the Tory’s and reform voters will give me stick,well bring it on i deserve it
It’s not your fault, you believed in what you did at the time! At least you’ve learned this very hard lesson! Keep learning!
There's always idiots like you who have always voted Labour....god help us..
@@anitachisnell8412you were duped he has not done anything he promised in his manifesto. Why has no one asked about their allowance.I was a lifelong labour voter until this election and voted reform he reminds me of dr. Christie from 10 Rillington Place
@@johnwaldrum801 I’ve never voted Labour, they are Marxists without the war. That’s what the Fabian Society Describes itself as. I watched a very old video of Bernard B Shaw saying what he thought every citizen should have to do to be allowed to live. A madman! The video is still there to find. He was saying that a person should go before a panel and give there reason why they deserve to live. I don’t believe in socialism like they do! I don’t believe in blaming and dividing ourselves any more than what this government wants to do with people. I voted Reform, got my Mum to as well, educated her, lol!
That Radio4 broadcast made me turn to the far Right. It was the biggest load of do do I've heared since the last election. Woke off!
Dont buy newspapers save your money.
A lot of Labour voters are middle aged women who are big on empathy and believe the state should provide. I can't see freezing pensioners to death sitting well with them.
Perhaps this will wake the huge numbers who never vote to get Labour and Tories out of their comfortable seats in next years local elections by voting for Reform..
If this government doesnt make you ill with the thought of what they are doing right now ! Wait till its you ! If you dont stand up for your elderly then you are not better than these politicians 😢 bloody sad day
You are so right ...
First they came for the elderly....
Starmer is a cyclist. Treads hard on those under his feet, whilst nodding deferentially to his wef superiors.
LOTS OF SHEEP IN HIS WARD SO HE DONT CARE
Rod liddle just brilliant 👏...veterans turn their backs on him rememberence Sunday...starmer will probably place a Palestinian wreath on the cenotaph!...twonk😢...
They starmet😢 a nazis
And there he goes with a locked pension - with a fuel allowance and expenses and hire cars I wonder what his toolmaker dad think of him now?????
He always omitted to say his toolmaker father was CEO of his company!
Well he certainly made a tool W⚓
8ve never voted for the labs or the cons and i never will, my vote went to reform and it again, im also a member now
How can anyone back that???
Spot on
I think 2 things
1) a gang of us pensioners should now surge on Downing street take over number 10 and 11 for the winter I bet its lovely and warm in there.
2) Reeves and Stoma oops sorry Starmer should sit in the home of an OAP in the winter every day for a month without the heating on and nothing to do all day and see how they cope! Getting colder and colder to the point of losing their core body temperatures.
THE MPs who abstained and voted against him today will soon be filling up those empty prison cells.
Bet Stammer told each and every labour MP to vote for today's bill, or else they'd have to listen to sound of the Labour whip. Why, why is Labour targeting pensioners? Where are the cuts for the MP salaries, some MPs have never uttered a single word in parliament
The public sector have parents and grandparents too. Are they going to g to be happy to see their families freezing this winter.
They can pay for their families energy bills with their big pay rises 🤷🏽♂️
My home is built on top of the coal mines, my home is too cold to live in during the winter , l can’t have my daughter and grandson visit in the winter.
Thankfully l stay with them in the winter..
@@leonbell5141they should agree to that, but they won’t. They’ll just demand more pay rises. That’s socialism for you 😊. Very self centred ideology.
If we get a hard winter, and some old people die of cold because they can't afford to heat their home, i think
this will haunt Reeves and Stamer and their cowardly MPs right up to the 2029 election.
Don't think it will because they don't give a stuff.
@@eunicehayes1750: beat me too it Eunice.
The over 60s may not vote labour, but many of them have children and grandchildren, and they will not be happy about what this government are doing to their elder loved ones
The pressure this will put on the already rundown NHS will be headlines through the winter.
We all need to make sure our parents, grandparents and elderly neighbours are warm this winter.
But we also need to remember due the the energy price increases, all ages are will be suffering,
The energy prices need to come down.
Fat chance of prices coming down, especially after Millibands attack on the North Sea platforms, prices will only go one way - up and up and up and up ! This country needs to get fracking up and running and stop listening to the nimbys.
They have done it to prove that can do anything they want! A long 5 years ahead 😢
Absolutely agree. Pricks, the whole lot.
If they need to save money, then they should remove expense accounts for every MP & if they receive donations, they should all have to be handed in & go into the privy purse. Let them pull their belts in not expect every one else but them to do so.
Working for social services we are not allowed to take thank you gifts from clients, if it's to rude to decline we have to take to the office to share. How come MP take thousands 🤔
@@deniseclarke8580 Exactly so. This is normal practice elsewhere but apparently MPs can accept money, goods, use of holiday accommodation & not even counted for tax purposes
Remembrance day i do hope no one goes from the government.. how can you face all the older generation who fought for freedom which starmer and his merry men have taken away.. shame on all of you.. stammer stay away from the in the warm while people pay respects to our dead and elderly heros
They will not get away with it!
I complainted about this to my MP after a long fluted reply i was told that the previous govenment only allowed from memory 350 million but this govenment expects to pay £6billion on Asylum seekers. I have no problem with legal asylum seekers but how much of the 6 Billion is being spent on illegals, roughly it £100 per person per year. Strange thinking.
i think the local elections could wipe out Labours majority in the coming future because of this criminal act, and every old person who dies from the cold will be linked to those who voted to remove the fuel payments while they still receive their £4500 per year fuel allowance
local council elections won't have any effect on the labour majority in parliament. They will have this parliamentary majority until 2029, except for the very occasional by-election caused by an mp standing down or sadly passing away, or by some other infrequent means of an mp needing to be changed by the party. None of which will change the majority by anything other than a small number of seats.
Freezing pensioners will save about £1 billion. But didn't we hear the government have just allowed public sector workers another over inflation pay rise, which will cost about £11 billion?
All pensioners should vote reform
Keir Starmer=Pension Harmer.
Starmer and Reeves are the big black hole- it's where their hearts should be.
Yet there paying £8 million a day keep migrants in nice warm hotels
One day the freezer team will be old.. and living it up on large pensions..
Can the BBC publish daily on their charts over the winter the deaths from Cold as they did for the Covid? If not why not!
Pensioners have children and grandchildren though
There are a hell of a lot elderly folk who have out lived there families.and also that have divorced and don't have children
what world do you live in everybody's struggling ffs nobody's got spare money HELLO
Yup, on your wavelength I think, hopefully those children of pensioners will remember at their next opportunity to vote
All pensioner need to redirect there bills to 10 Downing Street for payment. They need to inform there service providers of this. Sorted😀👍👍
Good idea. Maybe a copy though, just to show the real costs of the tiniest bit of heat. I'll do it. Anyone out there on social media to put this idea around?
Rod, I agree with you about Starmer getting away with it. It was test, which he has survived, which he expected to do, and will do exactly what you said: punish those who did not vote for him and reward those who did, all in the first 12-18 months. Many commentators, and those who post their comments, have seemed to miss this completely, letting their own indignation get in the way of a balanced assessment of the likely long term effects.
I really despise these calculated ruthless tactics of these so called politicians. I hope that the working class do not fall for this cynical attack on those that they feel are collateral in their games. I will not forget or forgive.
So much for his speach when he said he would govern for all the people in the country.
John Trickett for PM!
I work in the public sector and i would gladly forfeit a rise to enable the pensioners to stay warm this winter. I am among the lower paid workers. Most of my colleagues feel the same.
Suzanna Reid was very passionate about taking money off pensioners, she's the only one and Andrew pierce that disagrees on msm and I admire that
No time for the pensioners or white working class.
we should be demanding they give there allowances up now
£11.5billion of our tax money sent overseas for Net Zero!!!. £8billi9n for GB energy a company that does not exist !!!!. Let the OAP go cold and hungry. Shocking.
If the Oaps eligible to take up pension credit applied for it then the 1.4 billion saved in Winter fuel allowance would be wiped out.
Absolutely 🎉🎉🎉
There are very few people who they say are eligible find when they do, they find they are not.
@@bridiesmith5110 So the government figure of 880,000 is wrong?
He’s stopped the money to pensioners saying it’s not targeted enough. Well, does that mean child benefit is next, as that is also not means tested?
They’re coming for each of us, one at a time.
No they're not.
@@Andrew-tx9jy evidence says otherwise. All protesters are classed as right wing and therefore criminal. All pensioners are losing money regardless of their inability to heat their home. Next will be all car users charged per mile, then further taxes on calories on food. They are coming for you next, one policy at a time, all to fund their own idiotic ideologies.
Don't say you hate Starmer...careful
I would like you all to take it up with the government as to why there's such a difference between the Basic and New pension. Plus ask them why they never speak about this and only talk happily about the New pension. Pensioners on the Basic pension are the invisible forgotten people in this country
You only needed to look what labour has done for wales for the last ten years or more they more interested in cutting speed limits and changing village signage to Welsh when most of us could not give a hoot about signs being in Welsh but they let port talbot loose their biggest employer hate the labour gov
They are all a disgrace
Come feb/ march time when i get the big energy bill, I will deduct £300 and tell the billing company to send it to stammer
They have to make it look like the conservatives and labour are different! They are not!
No lab will want to come to my door, there would be a few choice words
Pensioners dont vote labour but they have sons and daughters
So two tier Keir the Maoist turns out to be a cluster f**k of biblical preportions ! what a surprise !!
I work for the public sector. I have never and will never vote labour.
I think people are finally seeing the real labour party. My city is a labour heartland. I think they may get a shock at elections after this.
I like Kevin but I think he is wrong to say that Starmer "underestimated" the probable backlash to cutting the heating allowance. He has political analysts and polling experts who will have told him exactly what response he would get in advance. I think he has done it precisely BECAUSE HE KNEW it would lead to a massive backlash. Why? I don't know but it seems like someone wants "public unrest" in advance of some type of crackdown. That may sound cynical but I can't see any other explanation.
We all know who else voted Labour as well, m-----ms
Rod Liddle is not right saying pensioners didn't vote Liebour. Many (especially Northerners) pensioners voted Liebour now their paying for it.
Yes....I believe that there were many who honestly voted for Labour who have been dealt a very different hand than what they expected.
Monstrous
Pensioners have a long memory and this will not be forgotten in a hurry. Starmer also needs to realise it's not just the Pensioners but their families who will also suffer.
As a pensioner and union man all my life I am disgusted that the Unions have accepted this pay rise once they knew the pensioners were paying for it. If they had any decency they would have refused the wage increase if pensioners had to suffer to pay it. I speak as a pensioner who agrees that the fuel payment should be means tested, so any pensioner getting less than £15,000 a year should get it
How will that snake have the bare faced cheek to walk up to the cenotaph and lay a wreath on behalf of the government, in front of thousands of pensioners, that he has thrown to the wolves.
King Charles III needs to disolve parliament and give his people the vote now they know which party does what
The King can only dissolve Parliament if instructed to do so by the Prime minister. And 2 tier Kier won't do that.
Every one, and i mean everyone needs to get out for the local Elections next May, if you have made it though the winter, get out and vote Reform UK and send the message to Starmer and Labour once and for all!
Don't blame me. I voted Reform.