We once met Linus; many years ago at NCIX's first outlet store's grandopening door crasher sale in Ontario. I was struggling to balance a pair of GTX 460's in one hand, while trying to figure out how to grab two Acer 120hz gaming monitors with the other. You approached me and applauded my purchase, having reviewed the hardware yourself already; we had a brief chat as the chaos of the doorcrasher continued. Anyways, I've always felt you had a good taste in value and hardware -- I think this video proves it yet again. I personally like using the Senn 373d's for my computer use, as the microphone comes in handy, but I also have the HD 650's and I think they are the best headphones you can get for at home listening. I use them for watching movies mainly. I now also have the HD 6XX -- ordered them early on in the drop sale. $298 CAD. Glad to see we still share the same eye for value and performance.
@@peggycarter6460if you want an hd6xx for gaming, get the hd58x. somehow an even better value, and they are great for gaming, creating a more immersive but wide soundstage
@@SepetTV the general build and included cables are different, but I think in terms of sound the 6xx is the same if not better, because that's usually how massdrop roles
4 years later and it's still one of the best value headphones out there imo. Very few sound as good and detailed as these do at this price range even with all the new headphones on the market. Only two that I can think of are the HD560s also by Sennheiser and the Hifiman HE400se.
What about the Sundara ? Been hearing a lot about it and want to buy them but their poor build quality is throwing me off. I'm leaning more towards the 6XX right now.
@@someHandle95 Sundara I'd consider a direct upgrade to the 6XX outside of midrange. The problem is that the Sundara is 130 usd more than the 6XX so it depends on whether or not you're willing to pay the additional price for them. Overall I'd put them in the same tier with 6XX being a specialist in regards to vocals and the Sundara being a better all-rounder. In regards to build quality, I can't really say much other than the fact that there is reverse-survivorship bias in regards to the cases we hear, so I personally don't know if their QC issues are actually that bad or not. If you want a safe bet though, you could get the Hifiman HE400se first. In my eyes they're sort of like a Sundara lite. They come close to the Sundara's sound, just not being as detailed or fast in attack. They're a good indicator as if you like that sound, then you'll likely like the Sundara's too. 400se are currently 150 usd I think.
@@ゼロワンそれが俺の名だ Wow! Thank you for the detailed answer man! Really appreciate it. I can actually get the Sundara for $280 since I have an ongoing offer on my credit card. I guess at 280 they're kind of a no brainer. However, I'll still wait for the holiday season and see if I can get them for even lower. Another question, can the Sundara be driven without an amp ? I currently don't have one and won't get one if the Sundara can make do without them.
@@someHandle95 danggg. Sundara's for 280 usd are a great steal! As for amplification, well you could probably make do without one, but I'd still advise you to go and get an amp for it to sound better. As it is a planar with low sensitivity, I'd recommend an amp so as to be able to power it sufficiently to get the most out of it. Something cheap like Schiit Magni 3+ or JDS Labs Atom would do just fine with the Sundara. If you wanna skim your budget a bit more, then a dongle like the Tempotech Sonata HD Pro would be my recommendation. I'd still recommend paying a bit more for the aforementioned amps as they can power like 95% of the headphones out there should you ever decide to upgrade from the Sundara though. Edit: as for DAC's, I recommend the apple USB-C dongle as a cheap but really efficient solution. Measures quite well and if you wanna connect them to your PC, just get a usb-c to usb adapter. You can then plug it into the amp using a 3.5mm jack to RCA connector cable.
@@ゼロワンそれが俺の名だ Looks like I've got a bit of shopping to do in the holiday season. Thank you again for the detailed response. I'll keep an eye on those amps from now. Thanks for all the help man! Have a great day!
1. HD 6XX is a remake of the HD 650. Not the HD 600. 2. The HD 650 came to market in 2003. 3. HD 600 is neutral. HD 650 is natural and laid back. Just stating facts.
The HD650 is fine driving from a computer or even a phone. Sure you are not using the full capacity and should probably not expect super high volume but it's more than enough! Source: i've been doing it for 10 years and still am
Absolutely amazing review Linus! You made some points in this video and have answered some questions I've had that no other review of this product was able to deliver.
@@JoonKimDMDbecause they're just more enjoyable. Some headphones especially more expensive ones put you in constant analysis mode, all life has been sucked out of them to get the most raw uncoloured "perfect" representation. The hd6xx meets a perfect balance between enjoyment and accurate audio reproduction.
I'm tired of this "my headphone are $X and they sound good/better" comment,no they dont cut the crap , this is not Beets by farmer dre, hd6xx are worthy of the $200 , maybe even more than that if you compare it to other headphone on that price point as they are better
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@Henri D yeah I went through all the $400-1000 headphones by sennheiser etc at best buy plugging them into my phone, and they all sounded terrible. I assume (or at least hope) they sound very different with a proper dac and amp.
To my ears these 3rd Gen Air pods are more comfortable compared to the newer Pro version with the soft gel tips. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxgl8SzyQoymMu-S3V55Dskg5QJ8xr1yCR That said, compared to the 3rd Gen, I notice these do not stay planted in the ear as well. One design issue I think, is you squeeze the stem and click it twice to advance your songs. On 3rd gen you tap the large speaker. The difference is by grabbing the stem each time, you tend to loosen the bud fit in your ear. Not always, but the bud falls out a few times while running. The old tap to change never had that problem for me. I would not have changed that tap function. That said, the newer Pro version sticks in the ear, almost airtight if you want that. I do not like that Airtight fit. So that's why I'd stay with this version as the best trade off of comfort, use, and overall feel.
Still have my HD650 for over 7/8 years now in 2021. I liked them over a more expensive Beyerdynamic DT1990 Pro (500+$). Also had the HD660s, but I dont find them necessarily any better than my HD650 in comparison. Getting the HD6xx for 200$ or less is an absolute no brainer. Really, really insane for that price even in 2021! Despite they surely run on a mobile device, if you listen on a pc, make sure you get a good DAC/AMP since they scale very well. (I had an AudioEngine D1 DAC/AMP, and for everyday use I have a Soundblaster X7 external DAC/AMP) Like Linus says as well, also they are so super comfortable, Cant go wrong with these!
Bought a pair for $300 CDN which included shipping and am very happy with them. Excellent soundstage, warmth and detail. The lack of bass is insignificant due to the fact that they do everything else so well as well as being very comfy to wear. And with that being said.....the bass is actually quite good. Highly recommended! Thanks for posting!
I bought my pair used for 250 $. When you are looking for a used pair don't be to picky, they are a great build quality and a five year old pair isn't close to breaking. You can also save a lot if you buy some where the paint is chipping of. Don't take the paint falling of as a bad sign. The paint job on all hd 650 are shit and it is gonna fall of at some point, so it's not a sign of the headphones being mistreated. Just paint them yourself, it's gonna be better anyways since they are butt ugly (that's what I did). When that is said, waiting for these to return is also a good option, and is what I myself would do.
I share the pain of that pricetag but in 2020, I've dreamed of owning the HD600 or HD650 since I was a kid, but in my country the prices on audio stuff NEVER go down and there's a big markup on imports on top of that... I ended up getting my HD600 last month for $800 USD, then I hear they're like $200 in USA/Canada and it's UNREAL... at the very least I got the made in Ireland HD600s, not the new ones made in Romania, I read from a few reviews that both sound identical but one can't be sure until more expert reviews come out and with such a pricetag I wasn't going to gamble on that.
I did my research on headphones last year with over 8 pairs in a pricerange from 50-160€ and ended up with the 120€ Sennheiser. ´What did it for me was not the sound, i had better ones, but the fit. As Linus said, you can wear them for days and that was the most important thing for me and that is very similar for every Sennheiser no matter the price range.
You guys are giving Trumpzilla too much attention. What will change in USA politics? Nothing as usual, your president is a puppet as always. Just look at your election process, it is glorified circus which isnt even good.
Don't. Sennheiser is completel shit in audio. Buy a Hifiman Sundara, it is HALF the fucking price and it is LITERALLY FOUR TIMES the quality in terms of balance.
@@ErgonomicChair What are you talking about? Sundara is 350$, 6xx is 200, Sundara might be a great headphone, but HifiMan has Problems with their QC, so if you are living somewhere where they are not really available and you have to return them a few times, you`re fucked. The Senns sound pretty amazing, and these have a totally different Sound than the Sundara, so a comparison might not be right there. BTW Sennheiser gives you 2 Years Warranty, just like all the Tech from Germany (Beyerdynamics etc). Which Products did you compare that made you come to this in best case uninformed and wrong conclusion.
@@spryt9723 I completely agree and couldn't have said it better myself. I just bought my 6xxs and I'm so excited for them to come in lol. I've heard absolutely nothing but 100% positive reviews and I plan to get the 150$ sxfi amp with them. I've heard these headphones last for years and years and only need cable and maybe a ear replacement for some reason but they are absolutely the most durable and best sounding headphones in my opinion just from trying my friends. I'm literally so excited again to receive these and use them for years lol. Like I said couldn't have said it better myself these headphones shit on most and for the price are unbeatable.
@@doritoman126 Yeah its less of an "OH MY GOD I HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT" than an "oh nice, you can hear the voice, and the details, it`s so smooth" I love that you can listen to them without them getting fatiguing. But you`ll figure it for yourself ;)
Great review. Can't wait to test these one day. My ATH M50x's served me well. Not sure what's in store for me going from closed to open back, but if the reviews are to be believed, I shouldn't be disappointed. Thanks.
The 600s and 650s are not the same headphone. The 600s are still made because of thier legendary neutrality. The 650s and identical 6XX are a warmer and less neutral headphone.
so for those getting excited, there are some unmentioned cavities to these headphones 1) you WILL need an amplifier for these cans, despite what some people are claiming in the comments you can run them off a phone, which you can, but at that point, you may as well just get a regular pair of headphones. Don't use these on an iPhone, on linuses part this was very poor advice. if you want these style of headphone for a portable device look at the 58X or the 660S if you have the budget 2) these are not portable headphones,. they have massive sound leakage meaning you will annoy everyone by wearing these when out and about. for those who don't know, open back means that he sound can leak out of both sides of the driver and everyone can hear what you're listening to 3) a DAC is highly recommended as it will mean you are getting everything out of these headphones just something to bear in mind if you plan on getting some of these
@@hurlman03 Have you tried it? I think they are alright even from a phone, if you just use them somewhere where the leakage does not bother anybody ofc. They do indeed benefit from a proper amp and maybe Dac, but they are alright with a phone, i don`t think he is wrong there.
Got 650s with a Schiit amp/DAC a few weeks ago. Really love them! Definitely worth it. But yeah. Definitely a bit tight at first. Much better now, but still breaking in... especially when compared to the pair my buddy has.
Wait wait wait. What!!! They don't look good! And Beats, Beats of all the headphones look good? Are you outta it friggin' mind!!! Beats look like hot glossy garbage! These look amazing, not kidding, absolutely stunning. I'd wear them outside if could afford to buy a pair!
I really love when you do audio stuff like this aswell as AMPs and DACs, because i know your subjective and describe your thought so everyone can understand and relate. I wish you would do more and try take on some alternatives to some of these timeless products, which the Sennheiser 600-series are. I´d like to get your opinion on the Superlux 668B for an example :)
btw, for these If you have the means or know a guy, PLEASE try 600-series sennheisers on a good tube. They come alive in a way I can not explain, but I can recall the exact feeling from memory and its almost like another set of headphones.
William Ng not really. i opened one tab and it failed so i tried a second time and it worked. paypal email came through within 6 minutes of the drop and i just stopped after that. if people didnt spam the shit out of it there wouldnt have been as many problems
I have owned the HD580 for the past 12 years. It has migrated through various audio and pc upgrades. I still love it. Some of the best money I have spent on anything.
I just ordered a pair of these. I spent the whole weekend deliberating between these and the HD560S. It was a tough choice but I want a more enjoyable listening experience for music and movies/media. These seem to have a nice warmer sound while delivering really good overall performance. The HD560S seem to have better soundstaging, imaging and flatter sound. That seems great for analytical listening and pinpointing other people in FPS games but I don't care about that. I want a fun sound that delivers a nice enjoyable experience.
I also ordered the HD560S just now. I need to know what they both sound like to really come to a good conclusion/decision. Might sell the pair I don't like as much, unless I have a good use case for both. The 560S look much nicer/futuristic. Also smaller and lighter. Have certain qualities that supersede the 6XX. The 6XX seems like higher quality in terms of build and sound, better in this regard. I don't like how there are 2 cables (one on each side/can). They're also larger and stick out more (doesn't matter that much but a small detail of note). There are just way too many options these days, I had such bad decision paralysis that I couldn't settle for just one of them.
You can usually find Skullcandy Ink'd at like Fred Meyer or whatever. You won't get anything better than those for $5. They're actually REALLY impressive earbuds, but they only last around 6 months at best.
They just dropped again! This time 11,500 people joined and I'm happy I set my alarm to go off as the drop started so I was actually in time to get a pair this time around.
HD 600 is known for having a neutral sound, which is the opposite of what you've said. It's still considered by the majority to be the industry standard for mixing cans due to their flat EQ.
@@abbeyt Valhalla and Magni are 2 very different type of amps (1 solid state and 1 tube amp) that will give you very different sound signatures, especially with the 6xx so comparing between the two would not be a great idea
@@phatanhduyle7259 wasn't talking about the valhalla, the person i responded to recommended the schiit hel, and i said the better choice would be magni + modi
I'm glad you put this video up late, or it would have been a lot harder for me to get in on the drop when I did. They were sold out of the 5000 of them within hours.
I personally have had a bad consumer experience with Massdrop. I ordered the $100 hifiman he350's, my first set of open back headphones from them in july this year, forgetting to check the estimates ship date, which turned out to be something like august 20th. Realizing my mistake, I still thought it was worth an almost 2 month wait considering the good reviews I have read and watched of them, and the fact that they're so darn cheap for the quality you are getting. A week or so rolls by and the estimated shipping date is changed to SEPTEMBER 30th! They gave me the option to cancel the order and I did gladly. While there is no doubt in my mind that they sell quality products, some of them you may be paying for more in time.
Dont worry, they are well worth their price (still audiophile tier) . . . anything from HD600+ needs an amp to reach its full potential. HD598 is usable without amp.
I just paid 170 Euro for Sennheiser G4ME One. But still, if i were to buy the Massdrop Sennheiser i'd have to pay the 200$ + 50$ for transport + 80$ for import taxes and it wouldn't be worth it.
This video is five years old. FIVE. And yet there’s still loads of new comments. There’s still people watching this for the first time. The article/purpose of this video is still relevant. “Why?” you might ask. Well that’s because the subject, these headphones, are still great. They’re never not going to be great. Headphones, at least the traditional kind without batteries or complex circuitry, never stop sounding as good as they do, and they will never stop being as useful as they are. This can even be said of used headphones, so long as they were listened to with a modicum of care. A good pair of headphones can and should last you a lifetime under normal use, but you just don’t see products that actually do that being released any more. As a matter of fact, Linus just did a video not too long ago about how Sennheiser sold their whole headphones division. It wouldn’t be insane to assume that some part of their “demise” is due to the fact that the people that buy their headphones often never have to replace them. Fortunately, these headphones are still available from Drop, as well as most of the HD600 and 800 lineup elsewhere online. If you’re in the market for a quality open-back listening experience and you don’t want to ever replace them, this is probably the right product for you. If you want to save money, you can even wait for them to be on sale like I did. They were $179, and still under $200 after tax and shipping. Or, because these will always sound good and so will the HD600’s or 580’s or 650’s or 660’s, you can buy a pair used. Ear pads clapped out or a manky old beat up cable on some used ones you found for $50-100? Perfect. Rip those pads and the cable off, buy new ones for ~$40, and viola, an excellent listening experience is yours for years or even DECADES to come. This basic design has been available under one model name or another since the 80’s, and that’s because they just work SO WELL that they didn’t feel the need to do any major changes. And if you do buy these and don’t like them for whatever reason, return them. Or if they are used, don’t fret. Just because you didn’t like them doesn’t mean someone else won’t buy them from you and enjoy them. These will almost always have resale value (to the right people). Just a fair warning though, be prepared to buy an amp for these headphones because no, they don’t sound “just fine” plugged into any old mobile device. Something simple like a FiiO BTR3K or BTR5 or the ES100 will be perfect for mobile use if that’s what you’re after.
That's a nice click-bait title. They may be among the top few, but no such thing as "the best". I still prefer Beyerdynamic DT990pros, though that's personal preference about the type of sound.
+Mellis Really? You mean just sound, or form factor? For me HD650 sound bit too low heavy. I also really don't like that cable goes to both earcups. DT990pro on the other hand, though maybe bit bright, sounds very natural, and are more comfortable to use because of the coiled cable.
dont worry mate, when the drop is so well-sought after by the masses they tend to repeat the drop. Just gotta wait for it... not a short wait though, be patient.
I had some Sennheiser headphones a while back. They are OK if you live alone or you have a separate computer room but if your PC room is connected, in any way, with a room occupied by people who are talking or watching TV then steer very clear of these. In the end I went with some Sony MDR-1A's instead. Build quality is good, they are closed - so they won't annoy anyone around you. They have a frequency response range of 4hz -192Khz when coupled with a HD audio output (front panel headphone jacks are out of the question). The cable running from your MB to that front audio output is extremely low quality and renders the perfectly balanced, supplied OFC cable pointless. They should be connected directly to the rear output or to a headphone amp via optical audio out. People might say that the frequencies are out of the range of human hearing capabilities, which is true. However, they are very noticeably different when playing audio from a DVD, Bluray, or FLAC file (originally created in FLAC, not converted from CD to FLAC) through your PC with your audio settings set to 24bit 192000hz. The bass is tight and evenly balanced and the high end is sharp and clear. Of course it's personal preference in the end but I found I didn't need to mess around with an equalizer with these, they are so well balanced. Not uncomfortable during extended use but the downside is that the ear covers wear out pretty quickly. I've had mine for about a year now and the edges are starting to fray a little so I'll probably replace them on the weekend. Another downside is you only get a 1.2m cable. This is deliberate as it provides less resistance and thus less signal loss but you can buy a 3m replacement cable (not one of those cheap 10 - 20$ ones) for around 80$.
Those aren't HD650s at 1:50. Those are HD600s. The HD650 cable has the black, longer proprietary end like on the HD6XX but is terminated as a 6,35mm. It comes with a cable style 3,5mm adapter. The cable marked as HD650 at 1:50 is actually an HD600 cable. The HD600 cable's identification marks are a proprietary end with red for right and black for left and a 3,5mm termination with a little bump where the 6,35mm adapter ends. The HD600 cable is also thinner than that of the HD650.
I just came up with a genious idea, why dont Headphone companies make removable and attachable headphone cups, so you can have open back and close back headphone whenever you want?
It's not an ingenious idea, because almost all of the cost is in the cups so it makes no sense to offer removable cups. Just buy closed-back headphones.
because the same amount of bass in closed back wont work for open back. Its going to be a compromise and we dont want compromise. we want the best. thats the reason people dont care for swapable iem barrel. its stupid.
pieter baelde jansen Which ones? The DT880 is similar to the DT770 in terms of a fairly flat frequency response (the 770s are often used in low budget studios and are the main reason the more professional DT 1770s are around). The 990s are a bit more fun sounding. More bass, more treble, excellent for gaming.
The fact that they are that old, yet still hold that value... speaks VOLUMES, (pun intended) of the product. I still like to jam my SkillCandies though. :)
bublik11 nah they tend to have a very flat response which I prefer. They're especially good for musicians and engineers looking for a pair of headphones to mix on that won't color the sound, which in my experience, sennheisers headphones do.
Not saying their higher end headphones are bad. Just different and can be disappointing if you don't realize they don't have a flat frequency response before buying.
+taiiat Sennheisers tend to be slightly bass-leaning throughout their range, although like Linus said, generally not to the extent of bleeding into and obscuring the rest of the frequency range. Pretty much the only one known to deviate from that house sound is the top-end HD800, w/c is quite a bit more expensive than the HD600 series.
ATH M50 will definitely be better than these at roughly half the price. You never knew how much you needed studio monitor headphones until you bought a pair of ATH m50's.
The famous two that are comparable to the HD6XX in price/performance are the AKG K7XX and its equivalent or Beyerdynamic DT880. And these legendary trio are going cheaper by the years, shaking the entry level audiophile market
Last time they went on sale, I decided against buying them, which I regretted. However, on you latest video, the the ad was for these headphones being available again. Couldn't have clicked faster on the buy button. Granted, I'll still use my main audio system about 95% of time, but it's been about three years now that I have wanted these headphones. Can hardly wait for them to arrive.
I can relate, I picked the HD 598s last Black Friday for a little over $100 CAD and even thought the HD 6XX are a steal at $200, it doesn't make sense to upgrade
Impedance kinda only mattered when it came to tube amps, which added color to headphones. An example on why impedance isn't a good indication on how hard a headphone is to drive are the likes of the HE-500 from Hifiman. 50 ohms of impedance, the Schiit Stack is barely able to actually power it before barely starting to introduce distortion due to low ass sensitivity per voltage (???)/wattage (???)/whatever.
JTCPingas I have Sennheiser HD598 which are 80 Ohms and they are relatively quiet on the phone. The higher the impedance, the harder it is to drive the headphones. R = U/I
Alexander Mustermann not really. Its more of its not loud enough for the user because not all ears are equal (trust me, I've found myself using an amp with M50's due to my ears being insensitive due to pretty much a freak accident which has weakened my hearing on both ears).
Hey they're on sale again. 7500 total, over 4000 sold now. Drop ends tomorrow Wednesday June 28th. Now for $250 though, not $200. Still an amazing buy.
Just got mine. I'm already spoiled after falling into the IEM rabbit hole, so I just think they're good. Nothing more than that. Would still recommend them to anyone!
“THEY ARE NOT A FASHION STATEMENT”-what? I think these are some of the most beautiful headphones under 300$.Period.
Wouldn’t matter. Cause they’re open anyway😅😂
I'd like to introduce you to the beyerdynamic tygr 300r
*Laughs in Meze 99*
@@StUCaboose Honestly I think sennheisers look way better than the classics. The wood looks nice, but the shape is unappealing
@@StUCaboose laughs in stax
We once met Linus; many years ago at NCIX's first outlet store's grandopening door crasher sale in Ontario. I was struggling to balance a pair of GTX 460's in one hand, while trying to figure out how to grab two Acer 120hz gaming monitors with the other. You approached me and applauded my purchase, having reviewed the hardware yourself already; we had a brief chat as the chaos of the doorcrasher continued.
Anyways, I've always felt you had a good taste in value and hardware -- I think this video proves it yet again. I personally like using the Senn 373d's for my computer use, as the microphone comes in handy, but I also have the HD 650's and I think they are the best headphones you can get for at home listening. I use them for watching movies mainly.
I now also have the HD 6XX -- ordered them early on in the drop sale. $298 CAD. Glad to see we still share the same eye for value and performance.
Are they good for gaming tho? Or just for music?
@@peggycarter6460if you want an hd6xx for gaming, get the hd58x. somehow an even better value, and they are great for gaming, creating a more immersive but wide soundstage
@@Makorov179 appreciate the comment thanks !
i don't know if you will reply to this, but is there a difference (even a slight differences) between the massdrop hd6xx and the sennheiser hd650 ?
@@SepetTV the general build and included cables are different, but I think in terms of sound the 6xx is the same if not better, because that's usually how massdrop roles
That's not a shot of Linus, that's a shot of Colton.
What made you say that
@@martin1649 The shot of Linus did.
did you say it or did you just type it
No shit captain obvious
"Not a fashion statement"
Iunno, bud. They look pretty sleek.
LOVE EM!
Found that weird as well, they look great
they look old like from 2000 in design
@@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV interesting take
@@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV well that makes sense, since they were originally released in 2003. And idk I kinda like the vintage look.
4 years later and it's still one of the best value headphones out there imo. Very few sound as good and detailed as these do at this price range even with all the new headphones on the market. Only two that I can think of are the HD560s also by Sennheiser and the Hifiman HE400se.
What about the Sundara ? Been hearing a lot about it and want to buy them but their poor build quality is throwing me off. I'm leaning more towards the 6XX right now.
@@someHandle95 Sundara I'd consider a direct upgrade to the 6XX outside of midrange. The problem is that the Sundara is 130 usd more than the 6XX so it depends on whether or not you're willing to pay the additional price for them. Overall I'd put them in the same tier with 6XX being a specialist in regards to vocals and the Sundara being a better all-rounder.
In regards to build quality, I can't really say much other than the fact that there is reverse-survivorship bias in regards to the cases we hear, so I personally don't know if their QC issues are actually that bad or not.
If you want a safe bet though, you could get the Hifiman HE400se first. In my eyes they're sort of like a Sundara lite. They come close to the Sundara's sound, just not being as detailed or fast in attack. They're a good indicator as if you like that sound, then you'll likely like the Sundara's too. 400se are currently 150 usd I think.
@@ゼロワンそれが俺の名だ Wow! Thank you for the detailed answer man!
Really appreciate it.
I can actually get the Sundara for $280 since I have an ongoing offer on my credit card. I guess at 280 they're kind of a no brainer. However, I'll still wait for the holiday season and see if I can get them for even lower.
Another question, can the Sundara be driven without an amp ? I currently don't have one and won't get one if the Sundara can make do without them.
@@someHandle95 danggg. Sundara's for 280 usd are a great steal!
As for amplification, well you could probably make do without one, but I'd still advise you to go and get an amp for it to sound better. As it is a planar with low sensitivity, I'd recommend an amp so as to be able to power it sufficiently to get the most out of it. Something cheap like Schiit Magni 3+ or JDS Labs Atom would do just fine with the Sundara. If you wanna skim your budget a bit more, then a dongle like the Tempotech Sonata HD Pro would be my recommendation. I'd still recommend paying a bit more for the aforementioned amps as they can power like 95% of the headphones out there should you ever decide to upgrade from the Sundara though.
Edit: as for DAC's, I recommend the apple USB-C dongle as a cheap but really efficient solution. Measures quite well and if you wanna connect them to your PC, just get a usb-c to usb adapter. You can then plug it into the amp using a 3.5mm jack to RCA connector cable.
@@ゼロワンそれが俺の名だ Looks like I've got a bit of shopping to do in the holiday season.
Thank you again for the detailed response. I'll keep an eye on those amps from now.
Thanks for all the help man! Have a great day!
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1. HD 6XX is a remake of the HD 650. Not the HD 600.
2. The HD 650 came to market in 2003.
3. HD 600 is neutral. HD 650 is natural and laid back.
Just stating facts.
Also you recommended driving these from a smartphone? NO!! Big nono!!
You need a powerful headphone amplifier!
woopygoman How bout a potato? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
woopygoman HD650 is in the market for 25 years already .
He didn't "recommend" that, he merely stated you'd be ok if, for instance, you're in a commute and want to use these otw to work.
The HD650 is fine driving from a computer or even a phone. Sure you are not using the full capacity and should probably not expect super high volume but it's more than enough!
Source: i've been doing it for 10 years and still am
Video drops after product is no longer available. Amazing troll Linus. Thumbs up.
Zaratoth to be fair though it went out of stock in hours
2 hours
quite sure it was 3. Since when i first checked 300 was sold and almost 3 hours later 300 was available
***** Big problems, mainly for the first trying to get the serial on there, from what I could gather.
more to be available soon.
0:25 that guy is typing absolutely nothing.
yeah, and that's not a shot of linus, that's a shot of colton
Its a meme lmao obviously he not trying to prove he is typing something
88 Keys I believe that was the joke
That's the joke
I like that Colton has gone from sales-guy-thats-silly-and-likable-on-superfun to LTT Model
Sennheiser stays imo still the best brand for headphones!
no... not true they just have better marketing then other headphones
If you read what i typed i said that it is my opinion that they are the best.
Marcel Niemans opinions can be wrong... i just told the truth
Soooo what have you even tried?
***** superlux hd 668b, sennhiser 558, AKG k612 amd k712, audio technica AD 500x, 900x, 550z, m40x m50x a few others and researching
Are they called HD6XX or HDSEX?
Funny and original.
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HD666
HD Success Ex? HD Sucks Axe Sex? I dunno!
It's HD 6XX, it's written on the side of the headphones.
Absolutely amazing review Linus! You made some points in this video and have answered some questions I've had that no other review of this product was able to deliver.
Hd650 one of the best headphones ever made. I have headphones that cost $2,000+ and still use my hd650 daily.
Why???
@@JoonKimDMDbecause they're just more enjoyable. Some headphones especially more expensive ones put you in constant analysis mode, all life has been sucked out of them to get the most raw uncoloured "perfect" representation. The hd6xx meets a perfect balance between enjoyment and accurate audio reproduction.
I'm tired of this "my headphone are $X and they sound good/better" comment,no they dont
cut the crap , this is not Beets by farmer dre, hd6xx are worthy of the $200 , maybe even more than that if you compare it to other headphone on that price point as they are better
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@Henri D yeah I went through all the $400-1000 headphones by sennheiser etc at best buy plugging them into my phone, and they all sounded terrible. I assume (or at least hope) they sound very different with a proper dac and amp.
These are not worth $200 they're complete shit garbage. Get HifiMan Sundara instead.
EmissaryGW2 they did because a phone won’t be able to power properly powerful headphones
Hah, I just got the 650 in.
Deffinetly didnt expect to see you here lol
OK.
To my ears these 3rd Gen Air pods are more comfortable compared to the newer Pro version with the soft gel tips. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxgl8SzyQoymMu-S3V55Dskg5QJ8xr1yCR That said, compared to the 3rd Gen, I notice these do not stay planted in the ear as well. One design issue I think, is you squeeze the stem and click it twice to advance your songs. On 3rd gen you tap the large speaker. The difference is by grabbing the stem each time, you tend to loosen the bud fit in your ear. Not always, but the bud falls out a few times while running. The old tap to change never had that problem for me. I would not have changed that tap function. That said, the newer Pro version sticks in the ear, almost airtight if you want that. I do not like that Airtight fit. So that's why I'd stay with this version as the best trade off of comfort, use, and overall feel.
Still have my HD650 for over 7/8 years now in 2021. I liked them over a more expensive Beyerdynamic DT1990 Pro (500+$). Also had the HD660s, but I dont find them necessarily any better than my HD650 in comparison. Getting the HD6xx for 200$ or less is an absolute no brainer. Really, really insane for that price even in 2021! Despite they surely run on a mobile device, if you listen on a pc, make sure you get a good DAC/AMP since they scale very well. (I had an AudioEngine D1 DAC/AMP, and for everyday use I have a Soundblaster X7 external DAC/AMP) Like Linus says as well, also they are so super comfortable, Cant go wrong with these!
Bought a pair for $300 CDN which included shipping and am very happy with them. Excellent soundstage, warmth and detail. The lack of bass is insignificant due to the fact that they do everything else so well as well as being very comfy to wear. And with that being said.....the bass is actually quite good. Highly recommended! Thanks for posting!
In Linus's house a couple of years from now:
"Daddy! What is hard angry porn? Can I listen to it too?"
It's been a couple of years... and then a couple more...
I just got my HD6XX's in the other day and coupled it to a Schitt DAC & Schitt Amp.
So far they sound awesome!!
Which amp, which DAC?
hd650's for $200...I'm not dreaming am i?
Sani Wada but there sold out
I just checked, your right...I can only hope that this drop comes back soon * goes to cry in corner *
Sennheiser made one million dollars in three hours with this. I think they are coming back.
Valdemar Jørgensen I hope your right, Iv'e wanted a pair of hd 650's but never had the $350 buck's I needed to buy a good used pair.
I bought my pair used for 250 $. When you are looking for a used pair don't be to picky, they are a great build quality and a five year old pair isn't close to breaking. You can also save a lot if you buy some where the paint is chipping of. Don't take the paint falling of as a bad sign. The paint job on all hd 650 are shit and it is gonna fall of at some point, so it's not a sign of the headphones being mistreated. Just paint them yourself, it's gonna be better anyways since they are butt ugly (that's what I did).
When that is said, waiting for these to return is also a good option, and is what I myself would do.
Bought the 650 when it was still like $700. No regrets, it’s the only thing I’ve used basically daily for the last decade.
I share the pain of that pricetag but in 2020, I've dreamed of owning the HD600 or HD650 since I was a kid, but in my country the prices on audio stuff NEVER go down and there's a big markup on imports on top of that... I ended up getting my HD600 last month for $800 USD, then I hear they're like $200 in USA/Canada and it's UNREAL... at the very least I got the made in Ireland HD600s, not the new ones made in Romania, I read from a few reviews that both sound identical but one can't be sure until more expert reviews come out and with such a pricetag I wasn't going to gamble on that.
The hur-dur-six-hundos from ol' mate senny
I did my research on headphones last year with over 8 pairs in a pricerange from 50-160€ and ended up with the 120€ Sennheiser. ´What did it for me was not the sound, i had better ones, but the fit. As Linus said, you can wear them for days and that was the most important thing for me and that is very similar for every Sennheiser no matter the price range.
I don't know but.. I really miss when Linus unboxed many, many things and walked around with the camera...
Video is so late today I was starting to think you guys called it quits after the Trump Victory.
So, Trump automatically becomes president of Canada? People nowdays.
It effects us Canadians quite a bit actually but either way it would have so eh.
Thats if they werent on the border with trump and a lot of their market and viewers are from the us
You guys are giving Trumpzilla too much attention. What will change in USA politics? Nothing as usual, your president is a puppet as always.
Just look at your election process, it is glorified circus which isnt even good.
just a puppet maybe he builds a wall... who cares they only do what their masters tell them
Depressed Colton is depressed.
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and suddenly, finnish comments take over D:
i'm a simple man. when Linus says you gotta buy something, i buy it.
@F a that is also true.
Don't. Sennheiser is completel shit in audio. Buy a Hifiman Sundara, it is HALF the fucking price and it is LITERALLY FOUR TIMES the quality in terms of balance.
@@ErgonomicChair What are you talking about? Sundara is 350$, 6xx is 200, Sundara might be a great headphone, but HifiMan has Problems with their QC, so if you are living somewhere where they are not really available and you have to return them a few times, you`re fucked. The Senns sound pretty amazing, and these have a totally different Sound than the Sundara, so a comparison might not be right there. BTW Sennheiser gives you 2 Years Warranty, just like all the Tech from Germany (Beyerdynamics etc). Which Products did you compare that made you come to this in best case uninformed and wrong conclusion.
@@spryt9723 I completely agree and couldn't have said it better myself. I just bought my 6xxs and I'm so excited for them to come in lol. I've heard absolutely nothing but 100% positive reviews and I plan to get the 150$ sxfi amp with them. I've heard these headphones last for years and years and only need cable and maybe a ear replacement for some reason but they are absolutely the most durable and best sounding headphones in my opinion just from trying my friends. I'm literally so excited again to receive these and use them for years lol. Like I said couldn't have said it better myself these headphones shit on most and for the price are unbeatable.
@@doritoman126 Yeah its less of an "OH MY GOD I HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT" than an "oh nice, you can hear the voice, and the details, it`s so smooth"
I love that you can listen to them without them getting fatiguing. But you`ll figure it for yourself ;)
Great review. Can't wait to test these one day. My ATH M50x's served me well. Not sure what's in store for me going from closed to open back, but if the reviews are to be believed, I shouldn't be disappointed. Thanks.
im here 3 years later to say, i hate you linus for starting me on this hobby
Welcome to hell, we've been expecting new visitors...
yes
yes
The 600s and 650s are not the same headphone. The 600s are still made because of thier legendary neutrality. The 650s and identical 6XX are a warmer and less neutral headphone.
so for those getting excited, there are some unmentioned cavities to these headphones
1) you WILL need an amplifier for these cans, despite what some people are claiming in the comments you can run them off a phone, which you can, but at that point, you may as well just get a regular pair of headphones. Don't use these on an iPhone, on linuses part this was very poor advice. if you want these style of headphone for a portable device look at the 58X or the 660S if you have the budget
2) these are not portable headphones,. they have massive sound leakage meaning you will annoy everyone by wearing these when out and about. for those who don't know, open back means that he sound can leak out of both sides of the driver and everyone can hear what you're listening to
3) a DAC is highly recommended as it will mean you are getting everything out of these headphones
just something to bear in mind if you plan on getting some of these
Needed to be said. I couldn't believe Linus said you could run a 300 Ohm headphone from an iPhone.
@@hurlman03 Have you tried it? I think they are alright even from a phone, if you just use them somewhere where the leakage does not bother anybody ofc. They do indeed benefit from a proper amp and maybe Dac, but they are alright with a phone, i don`t think he is wrong there.
Got 650s with a Schiit amp/DAC a few weeks ago. Really love them! Definitely worth it.
But yeah. Definitely a bit tight at first. Much better now, but still breaking in... especially when compared to the pair my buddy has.
I love that shot of colton and the meme text fucking perfect
Wait wait wait. What!!! They don't look good! And Beats, Beats of all the headphones look good? Are you outta it friggin' mind!!! Beats look like hot glossy garbage! These look amazing, not kidding, absolutely stunning. I'd wear them outside if could afford to buy a pair!
Charg wearing these outside is like hanging a sign on your neck that says “no sex for me, please”
@@camerontheboy Zero f***s given. These look amazing for me, and that's all that matters...
@@8lec_R I think they would look better with one caple rather than 2. But otherwise i think they look just fine
Well, if you want good looks and good sound, momentum hd1 is your pair my bro
Was looking back at this for a worthy upgrade but man I started dying when Colton dropped those headphones
I really love when you do audio stuff like this aswell as AMPs and DACs, because i know your subjective and describe your thought so everyone can understand and relate. I wish you would do more and try take on some alternatives to some of these timeless products, which the Sennheiser 600-series are.
I´d like to get your opinion on the Superlux 668B for an example :)
btw, for these
If you have the means or know a guy, PLEASE try 600-series sennheisers on a good tube.
They come alive in a way I can not explain, but I can recall the exact feeling from memory and its almost like another set of headphones.
0:01 it's actually the huh duh six hundgeo's by SENN
more dank pod watchers lol
i love how these are 7 years old and this review hasnt aged a day. its still the best headphone for under 300
Over 13k requests on massdrop now. Goddamnit Linus.
Eric Bowling Other youtubers like TechSource also promoted them ;)
Also HardwareCanucks, that's where I heard about it first
It had 13k before the drop.
Probably the same 13k people that overloaded the massdrop servers trying to get their hands on 1 of the 5k stock.
rest in peace everyone who wants these now. The drop ended in a whole 2 hours and only 5000 were sold (I'm one the lucky people that got one)
yeah after spamming the site with 8 tabs for 1.5 hours..... otherwise just impossible
Moeyz69
Plz gimme headphones lel
William Ng not really. i opened one tab and it failed so i tried a second time and it worked. paypal email came through within 6 minutes of the drop and i just stopped after that. if people didnt spam the shit out of it there wouldnt have been as many problems
I have owned the HD580 for the past 12 years. It has migrated through various audio and pc upgrades. I still love it. Some of the best money I have spent on anything.
zodden01 great cans the hd 580
I just ordered a pair of these. I spent the whole weekend deliberating between these and the HD560S. It was a tough choice but I want a more enjoyable listening experience for music and movies/media. These seem to have a nice warmer sound while delivering really good overall performance.
The HD560S seem to have better soundstaging, imaging and flatter sound. That seems great for analytical listening and pinpointing other people in FPS games but I don't care about that. I want a fun sound that delivers a nice enjoyable experience.
Should be a nice upgrade from my PC37X either way. I'm a big Sennheiser fan.
I also ordered the HD560S just now. I need to know what they both sound like to really come to a good conclusion/decision. Might sell the pair I don't like as much, unless I have a good use case for both.
The 560S look much nicer/futuristic. Also smaller and lighter. Have certain qualities that supersede the 6XX.
The 6XX seems like higher quality in terms of build and sound, better in this regard. I don't like how there are 2 cables (one on each side/can). They're also larger and stick out more (doesn't matter that much but a small detail of note).
There are just way too many options these days, I had such bad decision paralysis that I couldn't settle for just one of them.
For $220, I still think this is one of the best headphone deals on the market right now
Do i need an amp or dac for these. Also do i need either of those to listen to my tv audio? Thanks
Can we get a: Best Headphones to Buy...under $5bucks
You can usually find Skullcandy Ink'd at like Fred Meyer or whatever. You won't get anything better than those for $5. They're actually REALLY impressive earbuds, but they only last around 6 months at best.
Corey Watford VE Monks, nothing better. get those and you'll be happy
ONLY 6 MONTHS? I never had a single pair last me longer than 2 months man
Corey Watford Xiaomi basic earphones
Your definition of impressive startled me. I'd up the budget to at least USD$35 to get some TTPOD T1 buds if I were you.
Hold a minute +LinusTechTips, the HD600 and the HD650 have a fairly different sound.
ah yes the good times of google plus 😔
They just dropped again! This time 11,500 people joined and I'm happy I set my alarm to go off as the drop started so I was actually in time to get a pair this time around.
HD 600 is known for having a neutral sound, which is the opposite of what you've said. It's still considered by the majority to be the industry standard for mixing cans due to their flat EQ.
No AMP recommendations? what the hell Linus lol
schiit hel now that it's out
he recommended you the Valhalla IN THE VIDEO
@@hukama6911 the magni is better for around the same price
@@abbeyt Valhalla and Magni are 2 very different type of amps (1 solid state and 1 tube amp) that will give you very different sound signatures, especially with the 6xx so comparing between the two would not be a great idea
@@phatanhduyle7259 wasn't talking about the valhalla, the person i responded to recommended the schiit hel, and i said the better choice would be magni + modi
And I just bought my 598's a couple months ago :(
you got a damn good pair of headphones! Enjoy them!
D3athChick3n 6xx is to recess in the high
I'm not too knowledgeable with audio stuff, could you explain what that means?
D3athChick3n hmm the highs is the sound of crisp clear. This means 650 is less crisp and clear compare to 598.
D3athChick3n 650 may be too bassy some times compare to 598
LMAO the blond dude looks like a damaged man on the inside when he was wearing the headphones XD
0:45
I think he just looks like someone who stays up late every night.
Matthew Yepes Looks like he is about to go Super Saiyan.
Someone get that man a shiny new pair of headphones.
I'm glad you put this video up late, or it would have been a lot harder for me to get in on the drop when I did. They were sold out of the 5000 of them within hours.
I personally have had a bad consumer experience with Massdrop. I ordered the $100 hifiman he350's, my first set of open back headphones from them in july this year, forgetting to check the estimates ship date, which turned out to be something like august 20th. Realizing my mistake, I still thought it was worth an almost 2 month wait considering the good reviews I have read and watched of them, and the fact that they're so darn cheap for the quality you are getting. A week or so rolls by and the estimated shipping date is changed to SEPTEMBER 30th! They gave me the option to cancel the order and I did gladly. While there is no doubt in my mind that they sell quality products, some of them you may be paying for more in time.
Too bad I just paid 200 euros for Sennheiser HD 598 ;((((
Dont worry, they are well worth their price (still audiophile tier) . . .
anything from HD600+ needs an amp to reach its full potential.
HD598 is usable without amp.
Dmitriy Godunov Still a worse headset, for more money
Lel i got my HD 598 SE's for £75 last black friday ;]
I just paid 170 Euro for Sennheiser G4ME One.
But still, if i were to buy the Massdrop Sennheiser i'd have to pay the 200$ + 50$ for transport + 80$ for import taxes and it wouldn't be worth it.
don't feel bad, the 598's are a very good set of cans :)
This video is five years old. FIVE. And yet there’s still loads of new comments. There’s still people watching this for the first time. The article/purpose of this video is still relevant. “Why?” you might ask. Well that’s because the subject, these headphones, are still great. They’re never not going to be great. Headphones, at least the traditional kind without batteries or complex circuitry, never stop sounding as good as they do, and they will never stop being as useful as they are. This can even be said of used headphones, so long as they were listened to with a modicum of care. A good pair of headphones can and should last you a lifetime under normal use, but you just don’t see products that actually do that being released any more. As a matter of fact, Linus just did a video not too long ago about how Sennheiser sold their whole headphones division. It wouldn’t be insane to assume that some part of their “demise” is due to the fact that the people that buy their headphones often never have to replace them. Fortunately, these headphones are still available from Drop, as well as most of the HD600 and 800 lineup elsewhere online. If you’re in the market for a quality open-back listening experience and you don’t want to ever replace them, this is probably the right product for you. If you want to save money, you can even wait for them to be on sale like I did. They were $179, and still under $200 after tax and shipping. Or, because these will always sound good and so will the HD600’s or 580’s or 650’s or 660’s, you can buy a pair used. Ear pads clapped out or a manky old beat up cable on some used ones you found for $50-100? Perfect. Rip those pads and the cable off, buy new ones for ~$40, and viola, an excellent listening experience is yours for years or even DECADES to come. This basic design has been available under one model name or another since the 80’s, and that’s because they just work SO WELL that they didn’t feel the need to do any major changes. And if you do buy these and don’t like them for whatever reason, return them. Or if they are used, don’t fret. Just because you didn’t like them doesn’t mean someone else won’t buy them from you and enjoy them. These will almost always have resale value (to the right people).
Just a fair warning though, be prepared to buy an amp for these headphones because no, they don’t sound “just fine” plugged into any old mobile device. Something simple like a FiiO BTR3K or BTR5 or the ES100 will be perfect for mobile use if that’s what you’re after.
4:02 Did Linus say "Cheap" or "Shit" ??
The brand of the amp is called Schiit lmao
The brand is actually called Shiit
***** lol
Schiit
lmfao
6XX is back on Massdrop today, be very quick about it before it sells out again.
I've had my Sennheiser HD650s for a few years now and still wouldn't want anything else, the sound that comes from these headphones is incredible.
That's a nice click-bait title. They may be among the top few, but no such thing as "the best". I still prefer Beyerdynamic DT990pros, though that's personal preference about the type of sound.
I was about to say what about the Beyerdynamics 880's or 990's. I'm still looking at the 880's.
MGL personal preference yes. Personally I hate the DT990.
+Mellis Really? You mean just sound, or form factor? For me HD650 sound bit too low heavy. I also really don't like that cable goes to both earcups. DT990pro on the other hand, though maybe bit bright, sounds very natural, and are more comfortable to use because of the coiled cable.
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They would be the best, if they weren't sold out already :(
Who's here because of the sale this year?
wesler218 me lmao. I bought them...
@@victorolofsson2792 damnnn. Come back here when they come in and tell me how they are. Still deciding..
wesler218 will do mate
About two days
@@victorolofsson2792 it's when they ship. Will take 5-10 days after to arrive
I bought Audio-Technica M50x's less than a week ago. Should I hold on to them?
The 6xx have finally been released in Australia. I've got a pair arriving tomorrow! I'm hoping they are an improvement over my DT990s
Tell me if they are pls
@@sloppyjoe2974 in my opinion they are better. Smaller soundstage but they pack a bigger punch
And here I am watching this video with my $20 headphones lmao
DERZ me with ₹50 earphones..
Koss porta pro here 30$ I use them all the time even though I have more expensive headphones. Cheap = not always bad
116$
I bought Sennheiser HD 201 with discount for 20$
230$ for me kek.
FFS ARE THESE SOLD OUT ALREADY?????????????????????? 😩😩😩😩😩😩
They sold out of the drop within hours...I watched HardwareCanucks review of the HD 6xx earlier in the week and they were already gone lol.
fuuuuck 😩😩😩5000 lucky mofos. Thanks dude
Yeah, it's absolutely silly how fast they sold out.
dont worry mate, when the drop is so well-sought after by the masses they tend to repeat the drop.
Just gotta wait for it... not a short wait though, be patient.
lenyek penyek Sennheiser said this was a one time thing to get their brand out there :(
Colton is a great Linus.
Colton doesn't look great today.
MrAntieMatter
I thought he looked very hansom.
He looked as if he died inside.
I had some Sennheiser headphones a while back. They are OK if you live alone or you have a separate computer room but if your PC room is connected, in any way, with a room occupied by people who are talking or watching TV then steer very clear of these. In the end I went with some Sony MDR-1A's instead. Build quality is good, they are closed - so they won't annoy anyone around you. They have a frequency response range of 4hz -192Khz when coupled with a HD audio output (front panel headphone jacks are out of the question). The cable running from your MB to that front audio output is extremely low quality and renders the perfectly balanced, supplied OFC cable pointless. They should be connected directly to the rear output or to a headphone amp via optical audio out.
People might say that the frequencies are out of the range of human hearing capabilities, which is true. However, they are very noticeably different when playing audio from a DVD, Bluray, or FLAC file (originally created in FLAC, not converted from CD to FLAC) through your PC with your audio settings set to 24bit 192000hz. The bass is tight and evenly balanced and the high end is sharp and clear. Of course it's personal preference in the end but I found I didn't need to mess around with an equalizer with these, they are so well balanced. Not uncomfortable during extended use but the downside is that the ear covers wear out pretty quickly. I've had mine for about a year now and the edges are starting to fray a little so I'll probably replace them on the weekend. Another downside is you only get a 1.2m cable. This is deliberate as it provides less resistance and thus less signal loss but you can buy a 3m replacement cable (not one of those cheap 10 - 20$ ones) for around 80$.
Those aren't HD650s at 1:50. Those are HD600s.
The HD650 cable has the black, longer proprietary end like on the HD6XX but is terminated as a 6,35mm. It comes with a cable style 3,5mm adapter. The cable marked as HD650 at 1:50 is actually an HD600 cable. The HD600 cable's identification marks are a proprietary end with red for right and black for left and a 3,5mm termination with a little bump where the 6,35mm adapter ends. The HD600 cable is also thinner than that of the HD650.
I just came up with a genious idea, why dont Headphone companies make removable and attachable headphone cups, so you can have open back and close back headphone whenever you want?
It's not an ingenious idea, because almost all of the cost is in the cups so it makes no sense to offer removable cups. Just buy closed-back headphones.
www.amazon.com/HIFIMAN-Closed-Foldable-Dynamic-Headphones/dp/B01DZQT9UM/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1473740946&sr=8-3&keywords=hifiman+edition&linkCode=sl1&tag=zeos-20&linkId=9173386b09dafdd0e11d65f338a3df23
because it would totally change the sound signature.
because the same amount of bass in closed back wont work for open back. Its going to be a compromise and we dont want compromise. we want the best.
thats the reason people dont care for swapable iem barrel. its stupid.
I am more a fan of Beyerdynamic. The DT 770 and DT 990 sound very good for 149,- €.
I personally think the DT770/880/990 are the best you can get at that price range.
Basically a headphone for every (basic) preference in that lineup.
Stefsinn would you recommend them?? And do you know a good review??
Stefsinn i can get them for €130,-
pieter baelde jansen Which ones? The DT880 is similar to the DT770 in terms of a fairly flat frequency response (the 770s are often used in low budget studios and are the main reason the more professional DT 1770s are around). The 990s are a bit more fun sounding. More bass, more treble, excellent for gaming.
I think I can help you. What exactly are you going to do with your headphones?
Linus, what about the Beyerdynamic DT-880's that I see you with frequently? Not your faves?
good to know you are reviewing an item that sold out before you published the video! good job guys!! :)
The fact that they are that old, yet still hold that value... speaks VOLUMES, (pun intended) of the product. I still like to jam my SkillCandies though. :)
That's not a shot of Linus that's colton
5:30 speaking from experience Linus?
Didn't knew Linus had HuDuh 6-hunredo's by Senn review
Haha you beat me to the dankpods reference
Watching this video with my HD650. It's the best purchase I have ever done.
Mine are 5 years old and still the best open back cans I have ever tried, added a hel2 and a mod mic over the years. Great investment
Still prefer Beyerdynamic headphones to anything I've ever tried from Sennheiser
bass head?
bublik11 nah they tend to have a very flat response which I prefer. They're especially good for musicians and engineers looking for a pair of headphones to mix on that won't color the sound, which in my experience, sennheisers headphones do.
Not saying their higher end headphones are bad. Just different and can be disappointing if you don't realize they don't have a flat frequency response before buying.
+Jacob Padlock
every professional Audio Company has neutral Monitors available.
if that's what you're looking for, everybody has it.
+taiiat Sennheisers tend to be slightly bass-leaning throughout their range, although like Linus said, generally not to the extent of bleeding into and obscuring the rest of the frequency range. Pretty much the only one known to deviate from that house sound is the top-end HD800, w/c is quite a bit more expensive than the HD600 series.
"Angry Porn!" Killed me!! 😂😂
Unbelivable value... Ifff you live in the US. :(
EU Massdrop? Pleaseee?? Have to pay like 50 percent more because I'm from EU.. QQ.
had my bloody mouse for over 3 years and still kickin without any problems.
As a recent discoverer of dope headphones, we need more headphone reviews!
Ye thanks for releasing it too late :) I was able to get into the drop. Otherwise all the locusts here would have snatched every single one.
AT m50x compared to this? (worth switching to?)
why not both? its always nice to have a good set of close back headphones at lower impedance.
They are completely different types of headphones. You will have to wear it to see if you like its sound signature (or any good open headphone).
An open headphone can't replaced a closed. they have different purpose. Open usually sound better but at cost of environment noise.
ATH M50 will definitely be better than these at roughly half the price. You never knew how much you needed studio monitor headphones until you bought a pair of ATH m50's.
The famous two that are comparable to the HD6XX in price/performance are the AKG K7XX and its equivalent or Beyerdynamic DT880. And these legendary trio are going cheaper by the years, shaking the entry level audiophile market
audiophiles be like: but won't the color of the heafphone change the frequency that it vibrates thus changing sound? XD
Last time they went on sale, I decided against buying them, which I regretted. However, on you latest video, the the ad was for these headphones being available again. Couldn't have clicked faster on the buy button. Granted, I'll still use my main audio system about 95% of time, but it's been about three years now that I have wanted these headphones. Can hardly wait for them to arrive.
i've had the HD650s for years, absolutely love them
It’s the hurr durr six hungeos by old mate senny
*senn*
finally, One dencapods comment
I already have the HD 598. So these are not much of an upgrade.
Bardock The Legendary Warrior actually 598 to 600 series is a massive jump
They are a huge upgrade, actually. Take it from a 598 owner.
HunterAMG How so? can you explain to me why?
Dylan Thomas how so?
I can relate, I picked the HD 598s last Black Friday for a little over $100 CAD and even thought the HD 6XX are a steal at $200, it doesn't make sense to upgrade
300 Ohms off a phone? you are kidding right?
Alexander Mustermann Higher impedance represents an easier load on an amplifier, believe it or not. It draws less current.
Impedance kinda only mattered when it came to tube amps, which added color to headphones. An example on why impedance isn't a good indication on how hard a headphone is to drive are the likes of the HE-500 from Hifiman. 50 ohms of impedance, the Schiit Stack is barely able to actually power it before barely starting to introduce distortion due to low ass sensitivity per voltage (???)/wattage (???)/whatever.
No spotify 4 u xdddd
JTCPingas I have Sennheiser HD598 which are 80 Ohms and they are relatively quiet on the phone. The higher the impedance, the harder it is to drive the headphones. R = U/I
Alexander Mustermann not really. Its more of its not loud enough for the user because not all ears are equal (trust me, I've found myself using an amp with M50's due to my ears being insensitive due to pretty much a freak accident which has weakened my hearing on both ears).
They’re gorgeous. I can’t wait for mine to arrive
Hey they're on sale again. 7500 total, over 4000 sold now. Drop ends tomorrow Wednesday June 28th. Now for $250 though, not $200. Still an amazing buy.
"One more platinum plaque"
That was a dr dre reference. :-)
0:52 Anakata confirmed
Already sold out? Wtf
I have got Sennheiser RS 170 for 6 years already, the best buy ever, period. The freedom, the sound, the quality are unbeatable.
Just got mine. I'm already spoiled after falling into the IEM rabbit hole, so I just think they're good. Nothing more than that. Would still recommend them to anyone!
how are they for gaming?
@@baaprebaap3130 not very bassy but they're comfy and don't get too warm. No mic, of course.