Explaining Cortisis: the fictional metal that confused so many fans
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- The darkside for user in the acolyte has a new set of tools that can do some serious damage to the jedi. We take a look at the legendary material known as Cortosis and take a look at what it is.
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Generation tech: “The acolyte breaks the lore Again”
Generation tech 1 minute later: yeah so I lied.
🤣
@@GenerationTech- _Many_ people will see the video title, not watch the video, and will think: see, even that GenerationTech guy says this show is Woke garbage!1!1!1
Your clickbait isn't helping.
Well, he did include that upside-down smiley at the end of the title. So,...
@@cacogenicist... you must not have noticed the smiley.
@@cacogenicist On the flipside, it might help serve it to more people prone to clicking on the ragebait he's talking about and maybe break their angry echo chamber up a bit. No doubt what you're saying will happen too, but idk which one will happen more than the other so I can't really say it's necessarily a net negative
Most fans of Star Wars aren't aware of the properties of Cortosis Metal when it comes into contact with Lightsabers Blades
Agreed
Using a cortosis helm this early is like a energy shield in world War 1 and the ww2 and ww3 its just never mentioned again its inconsistent and that's what's frustrating.
@@redphenix5679 The Sith were familiar with cortosis during the old republic era.
@@redphenix5679not very common, The Old Republic era had better tech than the high republic, the clone wars, galactic civil war and new republic eras.
Cortosis is mainly used by bounty hunters
Agrred; The biggest mistake was one of the Jedi not saying, "His armor is Cortosis" or one of them asking about how he's able to do this and him mocking them about how cortosis properties and how its good for killing Jedi.
Cortosis was also in the KoToR games. It was their justification for how vibroblades could block lightsabers.
Oh. good, I did spell that right.
It's also in the TTRPG games to help to keep normal grunt players from dying in one shot from a saber.
Their reasoning for it not disability sabers was that it was an alloy using a weave
I won’t lie when I saw those two Jedi knights had their lightsabers disabled. My mind went to Cortosis. Because I remember reading the Darth Vader comics where the Jedi use a cortosis blade to try to disarm Vader. But I will say it’s cool to see that metal return to canon and see it being use to actually disable a Jedi’s lightsaber so easily.
that's because you are a star wars fan my dude!
@@GenerationTech I can only thank my dad for getting hooked into the franchise but also UA-camrs like you sir expanding my knowledge on it lol. Though thank you! You too a true Star Wars fan and keep up the great work!
@@GenerationTech Movie Battles 2 decided to implement B2 battle droids that can have cortosis plating. It's hilariously effective vs jedi, especially with how a single slap from a B2 superbattle droid can knock anyone down except for a wookiee. So imagine this, you're storming down theed palace hallway, trying to dislodge enemy snipers to let your team advance. You notice an SBD firing down your line like the machinegun on 2 legs it is. You go in to kill it and... your lightsaber dies.
You get bitchslapped and shot to pieces.
Well, either that or a nearby stormie runs over and beats you up as you are flipping back onto your feet (it takes ~1 seconds - enough to punch a jedi to death with enough stormies).
Also yes, you got jedi storming theed palace that's defended by SBDs and stormtroopers.
It's an awesome game.
First off for q quick second i thought he was using the kyber disengagement trick that ahsoka knows but a mlre quick and aggressive use
Then i realised it was when he used the armour to turn them off
Yay, someone who actually did their research! I’m not alone!
A mask that can. Block lightsaber strikes is kinda cool it makes me like that sith mask even more
He also had a Cortosis gauntlet on his left wrist that he was using.
Qimir has a background in smuggling and trading also is said to be a collector of unique ancient artifacts! He probably built that helmet from ancient pieces collected over time and welded it together like Kylo tens helmet
My current theory is that he is using an old antique helmet and one gauntlet.
Which is why it fell apart so easily after being smacked and why it looks like an incomplete set.
@@Peter_The_Great cortosis is also not know for its durability either. it is relatively frail. it defeats plasma weapons by dsetroying their magnetic field.
@@taddad2641 an excellent point.
Alan is back to his Coruscant penthouse after vacationing at the Naboo forest resort 😊
Lol
isn't rent super high on Coruscant?
@@EwanLim depends on the altitude! If you can see sunlight, then for the most part it’s expensive.
The more you descend towards the planet core, the cheaper it gets.
You might be badass, but are you disarming Jedi by headbutting their lightsaber level badass?
I love the fighters that aren’t afraid to throw hands
@@nahlataha1744 or throwing head in this case 🤣
@@etazeta674 bad phrasing...
@@ironheadgaming6270 is it? 😈
No bad... just ass
"Cortosis has origins in Star Wars Legends. It first appeared in Michael A. Stackpole's I, Jedi, which was published in 1998. However, in an interview with /Film, Stackpole credited prolific Star Wars writer Timothy Zahn with creating the metal." For anyone complaining, cortosis isnt a disney invention. At all. Neither is violating the rule of two.
Kryptonite is totally awesome dude
I loved I Jedi, and cortosis is classic, but how is violating the rule of two not something that disney started? Before George Lucas sold the rights I never saw anything that violated the rule of two, in the extended universe there has always been many dark side force users, but they weren't actually sith. So it didn't break the rule of two, and sure there have been sith after Bane that didn't abide by the rule of two, but they were just disobeying the rule of two not deleting it from history.
@@BeanCasserole-wg7wu Palatine was actively recruiting a second apprentice while he already had an apprentice multiple times on the OG and Prequel trilogy. The Inquisitors are very clearly an even bigger violation of the rule of two as they're an entire team of dark side force users trained in the sith who first appeared in Clone Wars under Lucas.
People saying the rule of 2 blah blah you can't have more than 2!! Disney broke it.. no they didn't haha
@@BeanCasserole-wg7wu Darth Bane and Zannah were violating the rule of 2 like 20 minutes after they wrote it
Darth Bane wrote a bunch of rules and IMMEDIATELY treated it as a checklist of stuff to do
Alan: "My normal calm had been compromised."
“I was something beyond furious.”
"You wouldn't have been wrong to describe me as livid."
Rip to the Yorde horde
Yord is Yord!
He died like he lived: a chump
Palpatine: "Ironic"
Hella RIP…he was growing on me for sure… oi
Was hoping for yord to die on a better note, but it happens 😅🤷
@@GenerationTechYord will always be Jedi Master Kronk to me.
May he never press the wrong level again.
* *Smilo Ren's mask gets knocked off* *
Smilo Ren: Hello there friends, welcome back to another episode of Generation Tech, my name is Alan
Ok, now I want to draw Alan as the Sith
@@dstovell"Dew it!"
@@CaptainTaggart "Drew it!"
They do kinda look alike, and we all know how Alan feels about the Jedi. 🤣
Cortosis fiber/plate has been around for decades in lore. The Imperial remnant assassins used it so often that Luke Skywalker had to specifically tune his lightsaber to be able to cut it.
Some people hate God of War 4 & 5 because Kratos is no longer an angry young killing machine seeking power or vengeance. They cannot digest character development or a good story. Hate to see such people's non-constructive and dumb hate getting such a loud voice.
This is the channel where I come for balanced reviews and discussions about Star Wars content.
Yeah. Most of the other Star Wars channels nowadays are getting more negative by the day. Generation Tech is the Star Wars channel that, in my opinion, is the most positive out of all the other Star Wars channels.
@@orckingi1208 I appreciate how he gives the content a chance.
He's able to talk about the filming process and the story. But separately. So each get a true review.
Meaning, people you agree with.
From a retard who didn't even know about cortosis? Ok... Sure
@@ericp1139 sometimes. A well thought point is preferred to just an argument.
Even one I disagree with.
That the Sith lord guy is the same guy as the fake Buddhist in the good place has blown my mind.
I loved him in TGP. I would love to see him as a sith in something that isn't garbage. Too bad he's wasted in this crap.
What a twist!
What blew my mind was how big his arms are. Dude's got turbolaser batteries for biceps.
@@someone_one_one so, thaaaaats the mystery/twist/surprise of the show.
cool.
He's a really great actor.
I actually had no idea that Cortosis had been decanonized until now. The Darth Bane trilogy has been one of my favourite Star Wars stories for a long long time, and the titular character basically grew up in a cortosis mine. His skin was yellowed and his hair fallen out from the terrible conditions while the physically demanding job of hefting what were essentially jackhammers to the walls to mine the stuff made him massive and well muscled.
Cortosis is in the 2nd disney thrawn trilogy, the book is thrawn alliance
My gf and I loved that cortosis was introduced, when the first light saber was shorted out i blurted "oh shit that's gotta be cortosis!" And went on about how i read about it in comicbooks lol
I know right? This show is my no means perfect and there are some very cringe worthy moments but the amount of hate this show is getting is ridiculous. I saw a graphic on Star Wars Meg that the 4 episodes had allready been reviewed 25,000 times! Thats more than all of Mando Season 2! its being review bombed and a lot of people don't like the producers/directors so they set out to find every single thing wrong with the show. Then the LORE geeks lose their mind because something might go against lore when not everything has been explained. Episode 3 Kid Amundi andany of the Jedi council never mentioned the word SITH! So lore wasnt really broken was it? They thought it must of been a Jedi who trained her. Anyways, maybe everyone is going to die and the secret sith or whatever he is doesnt make it to the outisde world. Another thing..its NOT THAT DEEP. I agree that Kid Mundi being in it is weak sauce but I can get over it with these awesome ass fight scenes! The sith was BRUTAL in killing the Jedi! Best live action scenes since Clone Wars! I would love to see a movie version of the sacking of mandalore or the Sith Wars with the Jedi. Anyways...I give the series a B so far. Diversity is goo...Lesbian Force users of color? Sure...why Not? Next week we get a wookie with a light saber! Sign me up!
I did the same thing 😁😁
Everyone is talking Cortosis and sleeping on the fact we finally got to see Vader's classic saber throw in action???
That scene sadly has major issues that detract from that. For instance why are all trees falling in the same direction away from the combatants when the cut would indicate they'd fall towards them or why is the remaining stump glowingly hot but not burning as if they were metal. It was the epitome of the show as a whole, style and no substance.
I've watched a lot of "top ten materials that can block lightsabers" videos over the years, so I immediately recognized the material depicted here, even if I didn't remember what it was called off the top of my head.
I also remember reading old Legends novels back in the day that took place in the era the sequel trilogy does now (The Legacy of the Force series is still in my opinion what the sequel trilogy should have been), and in one scene when some young Jedi are engaged by Mandalorian mercenaries, they're all stunned by the fact that their lightsabers just bounce right off their beskaar. The narration even saying "The revelation of 'My lightsaber doesn't work' is a very naked feeling for any Jedi." It really emphasized just how over-reliant the Jedi had become on their lightsabers to do basically everything. They weren't just weapons, they were the ultimate handyman tool that could cut through anything. So when you've carried one of those most of your life and go into battle with it only for it to be immediately rendered useless...yeah it's no wonder those Jedi redshirts were totally dumbfounded and easily dispatched by Darth Dudebro Biceps.
Though I am glad that in the new canon Cortosis is EXTREMELY rare, expensive and hard to refine and work with because let's be honest, it's OP as heck. Only the most skilled and masterful of Jedi killers should be able to use it effectively, otherwise everyone would be using it.
It’s funny that the people who are the most critical about Disney taking the legends stuff and putting it out of the canon, and still don’t know that this metal exists in the canon from the legends expanded universe. This is not a new concept or a new and executives did not make it to hurt your feelings.
Finally a positive comment about the Acolyte! I've been watching it and I'm like, why are people hating on this?! It's epic, darker than your typical star wars (which is cool), and has so many of the elements that make it a solid star wars story, and more canon than 7,8,9. Also, high republic era, and MASS LIGHTSABER BATTLES! THIS is what I've been wanting out of Star Wars lately.
As long as you don't think about anything happening at all, you can enjoy the show. But the instant you start actually focusing on whats happening you notice stuff. For instance in this episode, Osha tells Yord to turn off his saber as the flying animals/insects are attracted by the light. Did they attack her and Yord after she directly shone into them with her droid flashlight or did any Jedi or "Sith" get attacked for their ignited sabers? Or even the fight with Qimir as a whole. He would've unalived every Jedi after their first strike against his Cortosis helmet/gauntlet. Or how at the start they didn't overwhelm him with their numbers and only a few Jedi at a time even directly engaged him.
It is all spectacle with minimal to no substance objectively speaking. It was correctly stated that the show isn't actually at ~13% Quality, but it doesn't get past 50% (objectively).
And this is the crux of the situation, most Disney Star Wars projects are straight up mediocre when they all should be at least a 6/10.
@toastyrules8221 I agree, it's not without its faults, I see all that but I can still appreciate it for what it is. It's entertainment.
@@TooRissky That is the best stance to take in that regard. May the rest of the show be enjoyable to you.
The plebs complaining about cortosis of all things really revealed themselves this time.
"WE WANT STUFF FROM LEGENDS" "NOT THIS ONE AND NOT LIKE THIS!" xD yea. why i dont watch critiques and just watch it myself. worst i wasted half an hour a week.
„FAKE FANS MAKING BAD INACCURATE SHOW!!!!! CORTOSIS, MORE LIKE WOKE CUCKTARDTOSIS!!!!! I CANT BELIEVE KATHLEEN KENNEDY WOULD PERSECUTE US TRUE FANS BY INCLUDING SUCH CLEARLY LORE-BREAKING MATERIAL IN STAR WARS!!!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡😤“
Whos complained?
I hate this show for the writing but i liked that part
the cortosis is not the point, the point is that it's too op, he could literally just turn off everyone's weapon and kill them in one hit. so why bother playing paddy cake with the Jedis?
Star Wars rage is the new thing. All the cool kids are doing it. Except they aren’t cool. Or kids.
lol
Seriously it's so tiring, I honestly wish starwars wasn't so popular
It's not even a new thing either lol. Probably a contributing factor in why Lucas decided to sell the franchise.
@@LordDarthHarryand then these same people will turn around and say “we need george lucas back” almost worshipping him when you know that he wouldn’t agree with a single thing they say
Some of these lore UA-camrs are to blame with people getting confused with canon and legends, a lot of them will talk about something and mix both in one video, that why I like the Lore Master channel so much bc he make it clear in his titles if the video is canon or legends
The thing is, it shouldn't matter what disney says is legends. We already saw what they tried to make canon
@@the_scarecrow3143 bro forgot how messed up legends actually was when it came to canon but ok
@@the_scarecrow3143I will not allow the deletion of Luuke and Luuuke from "fans" bitching about how much better Legends was.
Messed up? All the EU novels went to Lucasfilm to be checked for continuity. Nothing was published with a green light.
Disney just threw all canon in the garbage, declared that anything *they* produced would now be considered canon, then they fished out little ideas from the EU and scattered them around.
Four decades of the work of creative people keeping Star Wars alive tossed aside like trash in order to make a Disney cash cow that has *lost* money.
How can Star Wars *lose* money?
@@the_scarecrow3143hey remember when legends brought fucking orcs into Star Wars?
Think again
IMDb EP 5 rating two hours before release already had 100+ one star reviews. The nerd rage and troll bots are ridiculous. Glad you keep it even keeled and not falling into the grifter mentality
smart moves to take advantage negative headlines to get good message across that series doing very well as this late
This is probably the smartest clickbait title I've ever seen. It attracts the people who hatewatch and complain about everything to click and find out why they're wrong.
Cortosis. The material used in the wristguard and mask is called Cortosis. It's been part of the Lore for decades going back to the EU and (now) Legends. It shorts out lightsabers upon contact temporarily.
:-| imagine commenting before watching the video
yeah if you watch the video that's what it's about
Yeah. He Tardbaited us with this title/thumbnail
It depends on the concentration actually. Cortosis was already rare, difficult to work with and very expensive. A pure cortosis blade like the one Vader encountered could short out a lightsaber, but a mere weave which was more common (but still rare) would protect a sword or armor from getting wrecked by a lightsaber blade, similar to phrik or besker. But it wouldn’t short it out. Now I doubt the Disney showrunners know that, hell they might not even call it cortosis and just make up some other word or metal. But for now we can give them the benefit of the doubt and just call it “pure cortosis” in the Acolyte show until someone from Disney opens up their mouth and displays their ignorance. That still doesn’t detract from all the other legit criticisms and downfalls this show has: bad writing, bad acting overall, terrible pacing, lore breaking retcons with Ki-Adi Mundi and Anakin being the only “Force birth” etc.
@christianscrogins663 I'll ask this here since it seems safer than other places... how is Ki-Adi Mundi's age a Canon fact? I don't think it's ever established in any movie or TV series to date. If we are talking about Legends material...I don't understand the controversy. They've already discarded Legends as Canon...unless they want to use it here and there.
The great thing about the internet is the amount of self snitching and confidently incorrect people display and the seals that clap in unison is amazing, keep up the good fight GT
Any examples?
disagree entirely there. there is plenty of legit. ti is lsot between the lines though.
@@ericp1139 complaining about diversity, having women in the story, the fact people are so media illiterate is staggering, take for instance the boys, from the beginning the were making fun of conservatives and liberals and it had to be spelled out for them for them to realize it, now its "bad writing" just like now, you just self snitched on yourself
@taddad2641 not sure you understand my point I am making here, I am saying people are unable to see context and sub plots
@@ev17dan I mean, do you have examples of content creators you can point to? Where was this phenomenon for Rogue One, Andor, Mando, or Ahsoka?
Qimir's usage of cortosis reminds me of the Imperial Knights in the Legacy comics. They used cortosis gauntlets to give them an edge over other lightsaber-wielding opponents. Apparently, Qimir used the same strategy.
You will be one of the great ones.
@@AndreVeaseyJr Thank you.
This would be knowledge passed down to all Sith.
@@MyLibertyTV Sadly, if I recall correctly, cortosis is expensive to mine, which makes it equally expensive to get a hold off. The Sith would not get a hold of it in large quantities without considerable wealth.
Imperial Knights mentioned woo.
I have ignored hate bait videos for a long time so the algorithm has mostly stopped putting them in my feed. But Acolyte videos somehow got around that, still ignored them though.
If I remember the comic correctly where cortosis showed up, it didn't turn off their light sabers. It shortened the saber to where it came into contact with the mineral. Restarting the lightsaber fixed the shortening of the blade... course, this was in the Old republic comics.
This episode was the first decent one in my opinion if it continues to get better I’ll watch it.
Did anyone else notice there were times when you couldn’t hear the lightsabers humming unless it was being moved? When Jord was talking to osha you can’t hear the sabre humming.
I thinknits more of a creative decision. The constant hum in a longer scene could become distracting and annoying
@@captainfach hmm. Possibly
7 people commenting 1 minute after the video drops. They haven’t even had the time to watch the it
@@Clone-jz4zf that's because most are tired of people claiming something broke canon when it doesn't
@@lunakingsley.7247which is the point he made in the video about 20 seconds in lmao. So if you see a UA-cam title, click on the video, and immediately start commenting your opinion, you just want to make the most amount of noise and it’s obvious. Even if you jumped to defend the show, that’s sad.
@@concernedpigeon3219 or we so much bullshit that it's hard to tell when one isn't or is just another rage bait person screaming woke or something along those lines.
Because this channel is full of headcanon bs
@@dancingvalkyrie Theeeeeee don't watch 🤡
At this point people just want it to fail becuase of politcal reasons
Whereas Disney itself wants Star Wars to fail for monopolistic reasons.
@@user-tp7gy4dj4lthey obviously don't want it to fail if they wanted the money, that comment makes zero sense
Or it's just terrible writing
@@kadegetslaid634 Some people (I seriously hope most of em are just children) really think Disney is some kind of cartoon villain with a convoluted multidecade conspiracy to destroy Star Wars in order to destroy joy or some stupid shit like that instead of a company run by out of touch execs who fuck up every now and then in their quest for money.
@LordDarthHarry I have genginely seen people think Disney drove zach Snyder's daughter to suicide so he would leave justice leauge, some people want to make up wild fantasies instead of accepting Disney will do whatever makes money 💀 it's actually hilarious
I think the biggest problems are the lore channels. A lot of them are very invested in the EU and have built their career off of it. The issue now is that LFL is picking and choosing which parts of the EU are canonical. This can admittedly cause confusion. Long story short, we just have to roll with it because LFL are the lore owners now. For example, Cortosis is Disney canon as far as I know and hasn't featured on screen until now.
Since New Hope George Lucas broke EU lore hella a lot of times. EU was never canon in the eyes of George Lucas and still isn't under Disney. Both George and Disney take what they like from EU, twist it sometimes and make it canon.
What is LFL
Use your brain and don’t use a random acronym know one uses.
@@Amplifymagicuse context, Lucas films Ltd.
@@seanrea550 yeah no, obviously if I read this stupid comment I can piece that together, however, in 30+ years I have NEVER seen it abbreviated like that, no one puts LTD in an acronym ya dingus
i actually really agree with your opening & i'm glad someone is taking a sane position towards the acolyte!! love the videos as always
Your definition of sane is "praising corporate media without question"?
@@spyrofrost9158 i've been alive for longer than you
@@bb0402 Not likely. You're just a deluded product of this society lol. Grow up and stop consuming products for the sake of it. I live longer than both of you. Year 55' here.
You and Star Wars Meg are the only ones that are being level-headed about the show. Pros and cons, not just one extreme.
Tru
He's not Ashla, he's not Bogan, he's Bendu.
I like Star Wars Meg. Screencrush isnt bad and Echarts ladder as well.
As long as it isn't whole buildings and doors made out of it. I was playing in a Star Wars game and we ran across a blast door made of the stuff that was intended to seal out Force users from the secret information within, so we tried to cut around the door, only to find out that the whole outside of the bunker was made out of it. A bit over the top, to say the least, considering that this would have been tons of the stuff, but it was made during a time when it was possible to mine that amount of it with droid mining we found out later.
The solution for entry was doing a co-operative "open sardine can" check using the Force to just bend a corner of the door open so a small person could go inside and open it some more. A lightsaber might be a universal key for almost anything, but so is telekinesis, if you pull hard enough.
I saw the lightsaber sputtering and immediately yelled, all excited, is his armor fucking cortosis?!?
I love watching these videos without even watching the show. I’m more loyal to Alan than I am Star Wars. More consistent quality I guess, keep it up!
@jeffdrew7027 except him constantly getting things wrong. For example, this isn't a new thing and doesn't break canon. It doesn't even crack it.
Watch the vid first 😂
@@lunakingsley.7247dude did you actually watch the video?
Sooo, nobody is complaining about cortosis breaking cannon, Alan made a vid about something that specifically doesnt break cannon because most of the other stuff in the show does break cannon. A true sith would never reveal themselves like that, not without killing all witnesses. I dont like this show ive tried to give it a chance ive watched every episode and the cortosis helmet was the most logical/cannon thing in the whole show so far
@stevesmith42066 except everything you have mentioned happened in the old eu too. So no it doesn't break canon.
Lightsaber headbutts are my new favourite duelling move
Your handling of this show and the public insanity around it has won you my loyalty. My official SW source from now on thank you sir.
More Jedi killed on The Acolyte than on the entire Star Wars movies. Fabulous indeed! Star Wars lore.
Order 66, Battle of Geonosis:
Just want to comment that your levelheaded perspective on this series has been such a godsend, particularly when so many SW content creators have so obviously not been treating it with level of objectivity it deserves. Thank you
I love the background design you have that is showing the galactic capital
So the only reason this fight happened in the first place is because in the previous episode, mae randomly had a change of heart and wanted to turn herself into the jedi. So that for some reason caused smiley to fight the jedi..... even though he could have just killed mae right then and there. Only for mae to then randomly hate the jedi again in episode 5. The writing is all over the place.
You’re correct a miscarriage of justice has occurred here…clearly the Holiday Special should be higher at 50%.
This episode was sooooo good , the fighting scenes and the introduction of lore from Legends is a great addition to star wars for sure!
dawg this shit is so bad
@@AndresLopez-vf2fsna get outta here
@@AndresLopez-vf2fs Agreed, the amount of inconsistencies they manage to cram into every episode is just impressive at this point! Nothing makes any sense!
@@takemeseriouslyplx2124 no ones actions make any sense. I hate the 3 times they made this sith dude run away. I cringe at all the dialogue. “they turned you against me” bruhhhh
The issue I feel with a lot of YT reviewers is that they can be SW fans and not have read all the books and comics or played the games. A lot of people just watched the movies and became fans, this will be their first introduction to cortosis so they might think its Lucasfilm f**king around again. But it is canon for those of us who grew up on the Legend books and yet fell in love with SW through the original three movies.
i mean honestly i think a lot of them aren't star wars fans, cortosis is pretty well known. Ive seen some star wars channels bring up good points about why the show's not great and i typically trust them more.
@@GenerationTech Also General Grievous employed the Techno Union during the Clone Wars to create the B-3 Ultra Battle Droids which use Cortosis in the construction. Which the factory was later destroyed by an infamous Jedi.
If there's one thing the Acolyte has taught me, it's that UA-cam commenters barely have a basic understanding of the either Legends or Disney lore.
@@GenerationTech I suppose it all depends what makes a good channel to you and what doesn't. Some are labelled as hatemongers despite having solid criticisms, some of course are just filled with plain hate. I watch a number of channels on both sides of the divide and it baffles me that most of the vitriol is spewed by the defenders of Lucasfilm as they attack channels by name. Oddly, the ones that criticise Lucasfilm never do that, so who is worse?
And I have seen channels that come down hard on such shows as The Acolyte actually say nice things if they see them, for example the fight scenes in the most recent episode have been, if not praised, then at least complimented by people such as Nerdrotic and Critical Drinker, both of whom seem to be getting most of the flack from Lucasfilm defenders. Ok, they might criticise how the trees blocked a lot of the action from view, how dark it was making it harder to see the fight, but they still admit it was the best The Acolyte has offered so far.
They do this while saying how weak the writing is, how some of the characters are badly developed, how there are plot holes that make no sense, but these are legitimate criticisms, but such things seem overlooked by the 'Defenders' who simply go on the offensive with a personal attack on the reviewers themselves.
With some of the comments, I definitely feel this. People complain about shit that was introduced in Jedi Knight: Dark forces-Outcast-Academy. Or was introduced in KOTOR 1/KOTOR 2. And these are like, super popular games.
The thing that a lot of people are forgetting is that Disney specifically said it's doing away with Canon. So if we keep going back and saying they're breaking lore you fail to understand that they're literally creating a whole new lore take a look at the book timelines. However, this doesn't mean that they aren't going to use some of the lore, which is something George Lucas himself didn't even want to do. They deleted everything before New Hope. But they are staying true to the fact that the sith are great planners and deception is their number one goal. I guarantee that Mae is being used to infiltrate the Jedi order. The whole betrayal was all staged. How else do you kill a dream but from within? I also hope they bring in the plant that is able to prevent force abilities. It was used to keep the forced sickness which caused a lot of Jedis to go mad and incapacitated.
The best legends lore brought into canon. Now they need to answer where it went. 100 yrs later no one is using Cortosis
cortosis shorting out the lightsabers is fine by me. tech vs tech. But can you explain the Magneto anti-mind trick/probe part of the helmet? that's the part that made me roll my eyes. Any object interfering with the force just does not make sense at all to me. and he was powerful enough to disguise his thoughts and emotions without the helmet in the potions shop, then what is even the point? He 1v8s jedi but he fears the jedi mind trick that only works on weak people anyway? I'm just so confused by it's existence entirely here.
I was thinking that since the force was an energy field made and in all living things the cortosis is also highly resistant as well.
KOTOR/KOTOR 2 has implants and armour that interfere with the force. The entire concept of Yuuzhan Vong is objects interfering with the force.
My head canon is that it's easier to read someone's emotions when you can actually see their face and hear their real voice.
I interpreted that as him either making fun of or just straight out lying to the Jedi about the helmet. They'd already seen and been confused watching it short out their lightsabers so they knew they were dealing with something they didn't know about. Qimir could probably have told them it allows him to teleport to Coruscant and they would have hesitated trying to figure out if that's true or not, giving him another advantage in their fight.
The Sith can infuse objects with Force energy, this is how they build Holocrons.
Right there with you, Tech. Some of the hate on the Acolyte is just ridiculous.
The show is fine. It's not perfect. It has some flaws, which should be addressed, but overall, it's fine. It's a step above Book of Boba Fett, and leagues above Kenobi. Hell, I'd say its better than Mando season 3 (or at least, the season when it includes the final episode).
The amount of people making uneducated accusations is honestly nauseating.
Thanks for remaining calm and measured, and staying out of the bantha poodoo.
I really hope he is not a sith. When Palpatine revealed himself, it was epic and also very well timed. When you smile, Ren does it. It doesn't make any sense why he risk reveling himself.
Seeing Qimir head but a lightsaber blade to disable it was epic, this episode was fun to watch and in my humble opinion this series does not deserve the hate it is getting.
I am genuinely so glad i found this channel, it is very refreshing to watch someone being more objective about star wars after all this culture war bullshit that is going on
A thing that has existed since the 70s doesn't break canon.
That’s the joke
You commented before you watched didn’t you?
Man this channel is goated. If Alan was a DnD Character he'd be a True Neutral aligned God of Intelligence.
I appreciate your understanding of the lore when it comes to addressing things like this. I also appreciate that you can be nuanced with your takes, as you said it’s something only bigger channels can do but I’m sure glad you do it
Can we talk about how Mae at the end of last episode was ready to surrender to the Jedi and in this one she does a 180 and goes back to hating the jedi and wanting revenge by taking Osha s place? Let's be honest, that's just bad writing.
Things changed so she did don't think it weird Her master was gonna kill her she just wanted to get away at that point being taken captive by the Jedi would interfere with her escape.
I mean she been shown to be super unstable and extremely emotional to the point of being irrational. But maybe we just have seen enough of her insanity to make that as clear.
She wanted to turn herself in to the Wookie because she had dirt on him and would have gave her a lighter sentence the other jedi just want to lock her up
As Mae said her plan involved a living Kelnacca and The Master being very far away, and I don’t think she was aware The Master was that skilled.
I think it was the interaction she had with Osha that changed her mind. But we also don’t know what Mae’s plan is in impersonating Ohsa, Mae might be getting a feel for what the Jedi are like.
What I don't understand is the people who had already decided the show would be horrible before it even started. They made themselves so biassed that it's impossible for them to judge the show fairly, so all they do is whine and focus only on what's bad, exaggerating that to ridiculous levels.
It's still poorly written, it just depends on your tolerance of bad writing vs your love of SW.
Well the background of headland and the message made it very easy for them
I get complaining about the story and writing and acting but nothing here as far a s I know is lore breaking so wehn everyone screams at that it's just stupid
Ki adi mundi has no idea this guy is a sith, nor what he looks like. His age is just a random number that doesn't mean shit. Extending it by like 50 years doesn't even change anything. Plus if you really care for a random number somebody made up for the sake of having a number remember it was never canon. I do agree he didn't need to be in this film, but it's not something to rage about
Smilo didn't even say he is sith, just implied he was a dark side user. He said the Jedi would call him a sith given his appearance. This does kinda contradict episode one where they don't believe qui gon tho but it's not lore breaking. Plus I think this guy is wrong in saying the Jedi would all collectively recognize him as sith when all they've heard is there's a guy with a red lightsaber. Remember, there are still 3 more episodes for them to explain it. Complain when their done cuz it ain't gonna change anything now if you whine
Armor is cortosis, very rare so you rarely see it being used ever. Jedi had no idea how to effectively deal with it since they haven't seen it in god knows how long and don't bother teaching it to their knights since they probably would never see it anyways, especially used by someone who is life threatening like another force user. I will say the way they showed it makes it too op, but considering even Darth Vader struggled a little against only a blade I think it's fine.
Nothing ever stated anakin was the only thing born out of the force. Even then, in this story the sisters weren't just willed into being by the force. There was obviously dark magic shenanigans behind their creation. And I doubt tenebrous would be too interested in this, even if he knew since his thing was with science and plagueis at this point either isnt alive or hasn't got too deep into creating life yet since he was born around when this show takes place in legends. Plus the sith don't know everything in such a vast galaxy. I will say however that this was just lazy writing.
If you like legends you would know retcons have to happen since most stories were written by random people in ways where they contradict each other. Some small retcons from already legends material are fine compared to the huge ones like the sequel trilogy where they just completely scratched DE and every else. Even if they went with legends everyone would complain since DE palpatine kinda just came back too lol. I will also note that most people hates palpatine coming back because of lazy writingz but there are still people out there who hate it because it's lore breaking, which it is. Truth is, legends ain't the holy Bible y'all make it out to be.
If somehow you take from this that I'm a fanboy for Disney then star wars is truly dead. Not only because of Disney but also because of the shittiest "fans" I've ever seen. People who judge a book by its cover and don't even bother reading it and also others who capitalize on these people by feeding them false info on said book. You can guess who I'm referring to (I watched this vid dw)
Basically, the lore ain't the thing to complain about, it's the writing. It's just people need more reasons to hate this show so they downplay everything else, like the lore aspect and the choreography which I personally think is good. Could just be my low expectations though.
Last edit lel it's fine if your coming into the show with low expectations, but if you come in already hating it then you'll only notice the bad parts and hate it more. That's the problem. Not that this show is getting too much hate (infact prob not enough given Disney budget) but instead how most of the hate is just for the sake of hating. Thank you for listening to my ted talk
@@Minifutzi_o.O the vast majority of us had never heard of Headland before. Just some random TV writer
@@jamesarnold7253 well the haters often do their research when it comes to Disney and culture war issues
You would think all those jedi could use the force all at once to hold the bad guy in place
Or a force nutpunch.
Back in the pre-Disney days they went back and forth a lot on how effective Cortosis was against a lightsabre... or in general. I may be wrong, but the first time it came up was the Hand of Thrawn duology (or I, Jedi - I forget which way round those were written) and Mara Jade explains to Luke that while the ore shuts down a lightsabre blade on contact if the lightsabre uses a certain type of circuit anywhere in its construction (implying that almost every lightsabre in history needed that circuit in there somewhere) it is essentially useless against anything else.
The original Clone Wars multimedia project depicted refined cortosis as an insanely dense superconductor - so good at resisting energy weapons that it was used to make starship armour way back before deflector shields were a thing.
After a while it seemed to settle down to "in ore form it'll shut your lightsabre off, as an alloy it'll just block it" especially in KotOR when almost every melee weapon and suit of armour used a cortosis weave so lightsabres weren't insta-kill-bats, and what you were saying about mining it being like working with asbestos, only taken up to thirteen, if memory serves, that was introduced in the Darth Bane novels... or at least that's the earliest reference I have for how dangerous it was to mine it.
My blocklist of UA-cam channels has massively exploded thanks to his show. Which is good means I keep the good Star Wars reviewer channels who are fair, balanced and debate both sides with integrity
Fucking weak 😂😂😂😂
Both sides how? What's the great positives of this show? What characters' t-shirt will you be buying?
Weak
@moabman6803 looks, choreography, plot, no plot-armor, i an not realy into byunig any merchandise
But the show is still garbage and most people were confused by the lightsabers going off as the show never tried explaining what cortosis was... I had to go thru a youtube video to get an explanation... The fight scenes looked good cause of all the effects and choreography but they also didn't make sense much like the garbage fast and furious actions sequences.
The big issue was that the show never mentioned or hinted anything about Cortosis. It would be so easy to include a line in the Jedi's investigation about Cortosis as a clue and give a brief explanation of it. Disney expects you to do your homework before watching the show, that's called bad writing.
"But I don't want to be babied by having everything explained to me."
Dumb*ss, the OG trilogy made time have Yoda explain the Force, have Han briefly explain hyperspace calculation, and the Prequels went out of their way to explain midichlorians among other things. Even the Sequel Trilogy unnecessarily explained that the rebel base the Resistance was going to was on a planet covered in salt. The Mandalorian was able to explain beskar by making it a consistent and prominent part of the story, each exposure telling you more about it.
Cortosis was EU/Legends and was introduced into canon too suddenly, it needed buildup for episode 5 so new people can actually know what is going on as not everyone reads every book and every comic. Disney has no excuse.
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Some people ignoring the point. Every single Star Wars film, and even the Clone Wars, made time to explain something new, but didn't need to explain every single detail, just enough to help the audience understand it and move along to get invested in the story. A simple introduction, if I don't know what is happening or why, I won't care no matter how flashy the scene is.
The show had countless opportunities to mention Cortosis, but instead focused on "Power of maaanyyy."
They don't need an excuse lol. A lot of things in Star wars happen without any explanation. No one explained how the force could lift objects in the OT, and it frankly has never been explained how it has in any movie or show since, nor how hyperspace actually functions. He explains the cals, but it took SOLO and TLJ for us to learn there's fuel for it. Some things don't need an explanation unless it's important to the plot or relevance. Without Legends, all we'd need to know is that he has a metal that shorts out lightsabers for a helmet and bracelet. In this particular case, I am sure they'd tell you why in a short conversation an episode or two later because ultimately it isn't important and only serves to make both the Stranger Unique, dangerous and more mysterious.
The Mandalorian culture around Beskar is important to the character both for story reasons and the character's history. Beskar gets an explanation because it will be used in every episode and has entire plot points surrounding it. media literacy. Pretty god damn simple.
Admitting that you need everything explained to you is wild
@@lefloch9983 Not everything explained, just the important details. I saw people get pissed off that Disney was breaking lightsaber lore again, and I wasn't going to explain Cortosis to them because that's not my job. It is not that hard to include a tiny snippet of information. Perhaps this will change when the next episode comes out, but if they never address it at all, it is bad writing.
My guess is the audience will find out what it is next episode the same time Osha does.
As soon as I saw it, and confirmed what it was, my first comment on everything was “oh I know people are going to scream this is a new thing”
All the comments? “Omg nobody will be mad about that”
Looking up articles today? Yeah lol, it happened
As an older Star Wars fan (old enough to have seen the first one in the theatres) I have no knowledge of Cortosis or the background lore that has been created over time as I've only ever watched the movies and the most recent tv shows. I never saw the animated series or read the books or graphic novels but it does not bother me if they introduce something into this world that I've never seen as that is what story tellers do. That's what tv shows do.
It also makes a lot of sense for the Sith to know about these items (in my mind) as they need every advantage to do what they do. The Jedi had hundreds of years mostly unopposed with a whole network behind them of support crew and historians but why would you research something that they haven't had to battle against in eons? Who would they use it on? Other Light Saber users? Who would that be, the Sith haven't been around for thousands of years in their eyes.
If it is hard to find, hard to make then who in the Jedi order would get the privilege to use it? And at what cost to the lives of those that would mine it? Now a Sith, where there are only two, it's a much more useful item to them. Also it wouldn't be a stretch to believe the Sith would use up any "resources" they had to mine such a dangerous mineral at any cost.
Major respect for keeping it real🙏🏻 Some ”true fans” don’t understand this stuff
Any supposed "fan" that saw the scene with the sabers malfunctioning and screamed about the lore being broken again was never a fan at all. THE FIRST THING i though when i saw that was "IS THAT SHIT CORTOSIS??"
And it makes total sense for him to be using it as a rule of two sith because of the possibility of fighting multiple lightsaber wearing oponents. The time the opponent takes to reignite the saber is an oportunity to recover and/or finish a target
I really like how the Sith guy fought. Heavy contrast to Mandalorians. When they have beskar they're really defensive and block a lot. This guy (can't remember the name) uses his lightsaber proof armor really offensive and straight up punches and headbutts the sabers away.
Really shows the Sith way
I don’t understand why they placed the show on the timeline so close to phantom menace. Like just put it “ a Millenium” before the quote for sock head man and then have all sorts of sith appear and this can be the “last time we saw a sith” and fit into the pre established cannon. Like literally change nothing but the date and I guess take sock head out of the show, but seems like an easy way to have free reign and creative freedom to tell whatever story you want.
Generation Tech your the best love your channels vibe! I had to google what the sith lords helmet and wrist bands were made out of right after the show ended last night. I thought it'd be some kind of beskar and was pleasantly surprised to learn something new.
Generation Tech with more Balanced Fair modern Star Wars reviews again I love to see it 🔥🔥
took me half the video to notice dawg is in Coruscant
The eridani used a cortosis mesh in their light armor back in the lore found in knight's of the old republic. Apparently the eridani almost defeated the jedi and republic before they eventually joined.
Love your new apartment the view out your window is awesome
The sith being kept a secret also isn't a thing that the acolyte makes up as it was also a part of the old eu too.
The way I see it, there had to be other Darksiders that cropped up over the years who weren't Sith. Why would the Jedi assume this time it's a Sith?
@@theazurefire91 yeah.
@@theazurefire91their was a legged comic where a Sith Holocron corrupted a Jedi Padawan so throughly they were even aware of the rule of 2. That’s also how they retconed it the Jedi order knowing about the rule of 2.
@@theazurefire91exactly. It's seeing some dudes on horseback with bows and saying "the Huns are back!"
I will sit on this hill till i die but "spice creams" is 1000% lore breaking
spice creams for children is degenerate and all apart of disney agenda to drug our children 🤣
@GenerationTech not saying it's agenda based I just cant get over spice creams fr, with most franchises lore is fluid.
Fallout would be a great example, with the acolyte I'll be honest some things are stretch rn but "spice" in food c'mon man that's actually crazy it's like the equivalent of giving kids coke brownies 😆 🤣
@BlitzSquire75 Have you thought that maybe, just maybe, they don't mean spice as in Kessel Spice, but just regular spice you cook with? Like, there's a treat in Star Wars called a Cavaellin spice cream, and that's basically just a regular old spiced cookie thing. It is FAR more likely that the spice creams in Acolyte are just a regular old sweet using the Star Wars equivalent of cinnamon or something, rather than a sweet laced with Kessel Spice.
@CloneCommanderCrater1102 finally someone with an actual explanation.
Most people just deflect rather than actually debating or giving explanation.
See now this makes sense.
@@BlitzSquire75 Yeah, I know most people think of Kessel Spice when they hear the word spice in Star Wars, but spice creams have been around since Star Wars Galaxies, so my first thought was those rather than the idea that they were putting drugs in the cookies.
A bumper sticker I saw on a beatup truck in a tiny mining tow...
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If it's not grown or drilled
it's MINED
"""
Of course, the order and capitalization on that is arbitrary. I'm a "grown" sort of fellow myself, but respect the miners ;)
I’ve been luvin the Acolyte. I’m also usually not a fan of the Jedi and all the space wizard stuff…I think get too OP sometimes and the risk goes away (so many clone wars episodes…ugh) but I’m way more into the spy tech and assassin.. but damn this has got me. And that last episode was chefs kiss.
Stoked that they made some Legends stuff canon. Woooo!
i loved the introduction of Cortosis in live action simply because in real life, i like weapons/armor that sort of thing, and that extends to fiction as well, i always wanted to see Cortosis and now i have
Disney doesn’t even know cortois exists. lol they just wrote in the story “a metal that blocks lightsabers”
It's very clearly cortosis
I see Alan is in Alderaan as seen in the background.
Disney: Has awful story and throws aside all lore… also: brings cortosis into canon
Cortosis is also one of the attachments you can get for your armor and certain melee weapons in the FFG/Edge RPG (Edge of the empire, et all). Just another thing that normies complain about is some "new" canon breaking thing that anyone even slightly into the extra stuff knows about. And even if it was brand new... who cares!? New means new content. New lore means new stuff to incorporate. Everything was new to the canon once. A TON of new stuff was introduced into the lore with Empire Strikes Back, including a bunch of new force powers, and no one complained (well, some people did, but most didn't), and it's considered the best of the movies. So yeah, new, old canon reintroduced, who cares if it's fun. And this was a fun episode.
Grifters are ruining everything. I respect your opinion and that’s why I’ve been following you for years. You make good points. Backed up with why you feel that way. Don’t give into the culture war. You critique, you don’t just bitch
I do believe the metal Qimir's helmet and vambrace is made of is Cortosis, a metal that has a high energy absorption rate and is able to withstand the blow of and even short out lightsabers.
This is literally said in the video.
Haters just need to let people enjoy the franchise they like without making them feel terrible for it. Like, yeah, we understand there are issues with the plot and the lore, but goddammit, at least we are getting Star Wars content. I can remember drought of content after the sequels for a couple of years and how much that sucked. It's completely fair to criticize the flaws in all of the shows but at least show some appreciation and praise for the people who are part of making the shows and the good parts of them.
I will acknowledge the good parts of the show, but if the show is bad and boring, I'm calling it out. If you have a budget with millions of dollars, it shouldn't be competing with Book of Boba Fett or Kenobi for the worst Star Wars show.
As Deedra said in Andor, 'The very worst thing you can do right now is bore me.'
@AndreVeaseyJr the thing is that YOU are choosing to be bored. If you find it boring, then do something else.
@jacksonreiter7237 So if I say the show is bad and you ask, did you even watch it, and I say no, will you then say I can not have an opinion? A lot of individuals are judging the show. Again, the last episode was boring and bad. The show has inconsistencies. Star Wars Theory, Thor Skywalker, and many others are watching the show to critique it, and I plan to as well.
@AndreVeaseyJr you are always obligated to your own opinion. That doesn't mean I or anyone else have to listen to it
@jacksonreiter7237 Never said you have to agree or listen. Just because you're a fan doesn't mean fans can't criticize the show. Most criticisms I've heard are valid.
When is glanced at the title of this episode, my heart dropped and thought, “so this is how democracy dies…”. Very relieved you remain an even-hearted and thoughtful critic of Star Wars. And loved the Asian mom reference; I lived that one.
I hadn't heard of cortosis so initially I thought he'd cut the tips off their lightsabers and I thought that was silly. One could happen but two at once is too much.
But after they came back on I realized what was happening and I liked that a lot better.
The acolyte feels very much like the prequels, bad dialogue and rough direction BUT really fun world building that can be explained later on
Man this series really exposed alot of star wars UA-camrs who don't even know the lore themselves but parade like they do😅
The way they reviewed bombed this episode before it was even released is disgusting 😞.
As you mentioned its nothing wrong with saying you dislike the writing, pacing etc but the hate herd mentality that has been going on is wild
I come here for honest and even handed discussions. I live how calmly everything is presented. I'm so sick of "Star Wars is Dead" videos. It's as bad as those videos from ages ago that all had a thumbnail of an image with a red circle and an arrow pointing to it. I keep blocking those channels.
I've been looking at channels before clicking on videos for a while and have added so many obviously worthless channels to my Don't Recommend list.
So many channels seem to be solely dedicated to spamming only negative content. If I can't find a fair number of positive videos, I really don't see the point. Life is too short to waste on nothing but hate.
you know i realize...asian actors are the best thing disney hired ...we need more folks in acting business of ours
You're getting so many engagement from trolling the trolls. Love it ❤
Lol, there isn't 1 good thing about the Acolyte except for those Jedi getting killed...
I don't think Qimir is a Sith Lord Master. I think he was just an apprentice looking for a prospective apprentice.
Maybe his master is Darth Tenebrous