Ever wondered what are all the rocket boosted aircraft in War Thunder. Well I did and I found all off them :D I don't think I missed any this time. 3% off Gaijin Store and you get my decal too store.gaijin.net/catalog.php?category=WarThunder&partner=IronArmenian&partner_val=u5g16ff2
you forgot the NF104. that was a astronaut trainer used by NASA during the early days. it was powered by the standard jet engine of the F104 but also had the hydrogen peroxyde fueled RCS thrusters of the bell X1 and the rocket engine of the ME163. jepp it was realy the same engine. the only change made was to switch to kerosene for the fuel. the oxydizer was still the hydrogen peroxyde.
Okay, the specifics behind the reason why the A4 have those boosters is primarily due to carrier operations and short runway operations. Skyhawks, aka scooters, were literally designed to be light attack craft and still they haul more bombs and ordnance into the sky than anything that was deployed in WW2.
I find it interesting how they gave all the rocket boosters brand new effects on their exhaust, but they left the rocket powered planes with just the boring old afterburner effect. Especially for the Me 163s, since the engine it has is the same as the one in the back of the Me 262 C1A, which did get the new cool effect. I hope they do add these cool rocket effects to the rocket powered planes, would spice them up a nice bit.
5:15 Engineer here, its most likely to counteract the other booster if one of them should fail. The way its positioned if 1 of them doesn't fire, the one that does wont cause as much of a thrust imbalance.
It's a lovely coincidence that Gaijin updated the effects a few days before I started recording for this video ♥️. They look so good compared to the old ones.
One funny thing about rocket planes like the Me 163 in War Thunder is that when you use the engines at low throttle you get a ridiculously high ISP: several times greater than any rocket engine ever created, completely disregading the laws of physics.
4:37 irl, the Kikka has much less fuselage drag than the Me262, which means the former is much "cleaner". Where the Me262 has less drag than the Kikka is in its sweptback wings.
I think it is sad that there's only 3 rocket aircraft, because there was atleast twice more which can be adapted into the game( Natter will be so funny.....
Fun fact: the Mirage IIIE's booster should be using the jet's fuel. I made reports about this and the ability to take the center pylon missile and guns with it years ago, yet it's been only half implemented. Also the IIIE is massively overweight and slightly underpowered.
Okay, I'm gonna be your token German to correct pronunciation. You are Calling the Me's "Meshesmitts", while the correct way is to put the sharp sounding 's' first, as 'sch' is the same as the English 'sh' and double s just means sharp s. That's also where our funny letter ß comes from. Just an old, but still sometimes used replacement for the double s. Sorry, someone had to do it.
yeesh, the day they make the german motors realistic (obnoxiously large steam cloud from hydrogen peroxide gas generator turbine, limited throttle capability, restarts are inconsistent, fuel sensitivity), those boosted german fighters are gonna suffer. it'd probably also hurt the BI and the Ki-200, or just the really early liquid rockets
I mean, if they're gonna do that, they'll have to make everything realistic, which means everything in the Soviet tree only works about half the time at best, and the statcards would lie even more than they already do.
I see someone already mentioned the proper pronounciation of Messerschmidt So I'll just say that the Kikka was produced by Nakajima, not "natazima" Other than that, great video!
@cerealeggvr6942 The A4H and E(M)? It's just normal progression through the tree. That's like tier 3 on the tree you could get it in 8 hours if you play sim and realistic.
we should get that me-163 with the schraige musik system on it it had 12 30mm cannons facing upwards I think? each with one round and they all shot via photocell (aka once a change in light level was detected they'd go off, it took down 1 Lancaster which is good enough
ME 163 also comes with the occasional spontaneous ignition of the pilot when there's still a bit of high test peroxide left in the tank that sits right next to him in the cockpit that were known to crack occasionally on a hard landing. Or spontaneously igniting when leaking out onto various metals used in building the aircraft. Which was known to happen more than a few times while plopping down on the grass with your spring loaded skid plate landing gear. Still a neat aircraft. But also exceedingly hazardous in a multitude of ways. Probably the only thing worse was the N-stoff they made so much of but no one wanted to touch because that pretty much exploded and set fire to anything it touched. Which makes it interesting that they still made so much of it, but we know what that ended up being used for in the end. And what it's still used for these days.
Holy Crap I been playing WT for over a decade and didn't even know the Me264 had rocket boosters HaHaHa LMFAO i never even thought to look at that thing
As an Italian main, I can speak more on the Ariete's second engine. The engine is a British-built expendable engine meant to be used on cruise missiles with no throttle control other than on and off. In-game, the engine is powerful enough to fly the Ariete without the main engine and is only on when full power + WEP is on (which would be shown as a sudden increase in temperature and the raising of the tail air intake. There was even another Sagittario 2 derivative that was going to be powered purely by a rocket motor called the Leone (though the project was abandoned before a prototype could be built. The designer of the Sagittario 2 and Ariete, Sergio Stefanutti, also made another aircraft I would love to see in the game, the Ambrosini SS.4. The SS.4 had only one prototype made and it is essentially Italy's version of the American XP-55. However, don't be fooled by me calling it Italy's version of the XP-55 when it is actually the other way around. The SS.4 was first flown in March of 1939, at least 9 months before the Army Air Corp's proposal in November of the same year for unconventional aircraft designs for improved performance and another 3 years before Curtiss-Wright would first fly the XP-55.
Yeah these boosters are extremely useful when playing as bombers. especially when you are close to the bombing target or need a et away. Early jet bombers suffer.
Hey Iron, what is your opinion on the Po-2? Since you been with War thunder as long as I can remember, I believe you would have the most valid opinion on the 2-OP I recently got the Po-2 from this year's Halloween event, and I love it because it is, In the only way I can describe it, such a meme aircraft that i can't help but smile even when things aren't going my way...
Great Video, good to know wich ones do and do not get those. I only have one Critique: Its Pronounced like Messerschmidt, you said Mesherschmidt. Not a big deal, just wanted to tell you.
I would like to see the Me-263 in WT. It had proper landing gear and 15 mins of flight time. Whole not perfect that seems to fix 2 big flaws with the Me-163
When you spoke of the Kikka fighter, you mentioned that the fighter deviates from the original plane it was meant to be. That is most probabbly because a lot of the documents sent to Japan for the recreation of the Messerschmith 262 were lost with the sinking of the U boat which was carrying them. I am not aware of details, but for all I read in my armaments books, said U-boat was sunk and later the documents were retrieved by Japanese divers. That may be the reason why the design deviates. Another reason might be Japanese engineers changing up the design on their own accord.
@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs Huh, i thought they just made belly landings impossible, i always land on my gear even before this update so i didn't know it was still possible below 400.
Please look up how to pronounce Messerschmidt it is frying my brain The s is pronounced as in English and the sch is the sound that would be written ch as in change in English
Ever wondered what are all the rocket boosted aircraft in War Thunder. Well I did and I found all off them :D I don't think I missed any this time.
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you forgot the NF104. that was a astronaut trainer used by NASA during the early days. it was powered by the standard jet engine of the F104 but also had the hydrogen peroxyde fueled RCS thrusters of the bell X1 and the rocket engine of the ME163. jepp it was realy the same engine. the only change made was to switch to kerosene for the fuel. the oxydizer was still the hydrogen peroxyde.
Okay, the specifics behind the reason why the A4 have those boosters is primarily due to carrier operations and short runway operations. Skyhawks, aka scooters, were literally designed to be light attack craft and still they haul more bombs and ordnance into the sky than anything that was deployed in WW2.
so what is the song in the background?
how do i get the decal?
I find it interesting how they gave all the rocket boosters brand new effects on their exhaust, but they left the rocket powered planes with just the boring old afterburner effect. Especially for the Me 163s, since the engine it has is the same as the one in the back of the Me 262 C1A, which did get the new cool effect. I hope they do add these cool rocket effects to the rocket powered planes, would spice them up a nice bit.
At least they still have one, my f11-1 completely last it’s flame for some reason, like you can look directly into the turbine it’s weird asf
I also wish they actually gave more tanks their real engine sounds
it's worse: the power output of the thing is still nerfed
5:15 Engineer here, its most likely to counteract the other booster if one of them should fail. The way its positioned if 1 of them doesn't fire, the one that does wont cause as much of a thrust imbalance.
As we said in Kerbal Space Program: "Boost your Boosters for Maximum Boost!"
In thrust we trust!
5:42 It's a repeat!!!
Oh dang you right. How did I miss this when editing 😢
Oh shoot! Did they update the rocket effects too!?*
Very cool vid Iron, always love a good rocket plane!
It's a lovely coincidence that Gaijin updated the effects a few days before I started recording for this video ♥️.
They look so good compared to the old ones.
9:40 The Soviet La-200 also has something similar to this plane albeit its secondary engine isnt in the tail lol
The La-200 is massive though. I mean look at the thing, It's an interceptor with the pilots sitting side by side.
@DrRussian Im aware but its actually quite nimble, Ive won a lot of dogfights using it
Ohooo , no boosters on the MiG-21?
Hopefully they will add the MiG-21 that had vtol
Yeah, sadly no boosters in game yet for the Mig-21 :(
@@gloomycrayon355 thats 100% only going to be an event vehicle
@@Jhunter2007cant wait for the thrust vectoring canard F15
@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigsTEL MEE WHY A MIG-21 WOULD NEED FUCKING BOOSTER??
What's next? Weird shapes of air-brakes?
Honestly, it's on my list. I do want to do them at some point. Some planes have some seriously creative airbrakes
@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs Like the F4Us that used their landing gear as airbrakes, i wish they had that properly modeled
A-7 literally showing its dong for airbrakes
@@biomike01 They sorta do, the gear is very hard to break at speed, and I think they slow you down Abit too.
@@TheKusa5 It isnt modeled properly, the wheels shouldnt turn when being used as an air break
One funny thing about rocket planes like the Me 163 in War Thunder is that when you use the engines at low throttle you get a ridiculously high ISP: several times greater than any rocket engine ever created, completely disregading the laws of physics.
Yeah rockets thrust isn't modeled well in WT. Irl for the Me-163 more % throttle gave more output of thrust and low % was very inefficient
8:24 fun fact: one of the submarines u-864 was sunk by hms venturer in the only underwater battle between two submarines
Drawbacks: very limited fuel time.
Arcade mode: I'm gonna do what we call a pro gamer move 😎
6:48
“Encountering issues”
(Gets dissolved in trees)
9:35 the La-200 has a tandem jet engine, which is kinda weird, even more with jet engines
4:37 irl, the Kikka has much less fuselage drag than the Me262, which means the former is much "cleaner". Where the Me262 has less drag than the Kikka is in its sweptback wings.
I think it is sad that there's only 3 rocket aircraft, because there was atleast twice more which can be adapted into the game( Natter will be so funny.....
different content , better than the usual slop, thank you
Yippe:D
I hope you enjoy the other videos in the series if you liked this one
6 views in 38 seconds? dude is blowing up 🙏
Another banger from Iron
The Natter would be a great addition. I live 2 kilometers from where it got tested, today only 1 start-platform remains.
I hope they also add boosters on C-130 Spectre if they will ever add him
Fun fact: the Mirage IIIE's booster should be using the jet's fuel. I made reports about this and the ability to take the center pylon missile and guns with it years ago, yet it's been only half implemented.
Also the IIIE is massively overweight and slightly underpowered.
Okay, I'm gonna be your token German to correct pronunciation.
You are Calling the Me's "Meshesmitts", while the correct way is to put the sharp sounding 's' first, as 'sch' is the same as the English 'sh' and double s just means sharp s. That's also where our funny letter ß comes from. Just an old, but still sometimes used replacement for the double s.
Sorry, someone had to do it.
yeesh, the day they make the german motors realistic (obnoxiously large steam cloud from hydrogen peroxide gas generator turbine, limited throttle capability, restarts are inconsistent, fuel sensitivity), those boosted german fighters are gonna suffer. it'd probably also hurt the BI and the Ki-200, or just the really early liquid rockets
I mean, if they're gonna do that, they'll have to make everything realistic, which means everything in the Soviet tree only works about half the time at best, and the statcards would lie even more than they already do.
@@MrBlueBurd0451 I dont see why soviets would work half the time
The ariete is very cool, i saw the only prototipe in a museum
I see someone already mentioned the proper pronounciation of Messerschmidt
So I'll just say that the Kikka was produced by Nakajima, not "natazima"
Other than that, great video!
7:38 its an okay time, you hear em? A okay time
Wes Anderson music on the background is gold
Big thrust!!!
Guh
The Sagittario/Ariete had another variant which was partially build which was called the Leone which used a rocket engine.
3:41 how did you have the a-4s unlocked
A4e is a squad vehicle, A4B is a normal researchable vehicle, and there's the FJ4B too which is also a normal researchable tree.
I meant how did he have the a-4 in the Israeli tech tree unlocked
@cerealeggvr6942 The A4H and E(M)? It's just normal progression through the tree. That's like tier 3 on the tree you could get it in 8 hours if you play sim and realistic.
@cerealeggvr6942 I'm confused, you just progress through the tech tree like normal, and you get it pretty easily through RB and SB.
Yay haigs video!
3:46 that is the A-4N and a second later is the A-4H
we should get that me-163 with the schraige musik system on it
it had 12 30mm cannons facing upwards I think? each with one round
and they all shot via photocell (aka once a change in light level was detected they'd go off, it took down 1 Lancaster which is good enough
Imagine if Gaijin added the F-104 vertical takeoff booster
7:39
I wish she said that 😭
Ground Control to Major Tom
Commencing countdown, engines on...
If you ever just wanna have fun, test fly the BI in arcade mode. Get up to high speed, then turn flaps on, and start hitting 20g turns.
At least according to a letter he wrote, german top jet ace Heinz Bär used a rocket boosted 262 for some of his kills against Mosquitos
It's actually criminal that the Komet has to fight heat seeking missiles and super sonics at 8.0~8.7
It's a much better alternative to Komets dominating 6.0-7.0. I would only accept rocket planes with no throttle control at those BRs.
@@0GTXR If they gave them the proper amount of fuel/thrust i would take that
Bro I remember playing the mig 21-300 and killing a Komet with a radar missile I felt bad
Oh snap it's time to BOOST
0:57 Meschersmitt lol
ME 163 also comes with the occasional spontaneous ignition of the pilot when there's still a bit of high test peroxide left in the tank that sits right next to him in the cockpit that were known to crack occasionally on a hard landing. Or spontaneously igniting when leaking out onto various metals used in building the aircraft. Which was known to happen more than a few times while plopping down on the grass with your spring loaded skid plate landing gear. Still a neat aircraft. But also exceedingly hazardous in a multitude of ways. Probably the only thing worse was the N-stoff they made so much of but no one wanted to touch because that pretty much exploded and set fire to anything it touched. Which makes it interesting that they still made so much of it, but we know what that ended up being used for in the end. And what it's still used for these days.
So that's why I can never quite catch up with an ME264
Holy Crap I been playing WT for over a decade and didn't even know the Me264 had rocket boosters HaHaHa LMFAO i never even thought to look at that thing
Now do every plane with an airbreak or every tank that doesnt have a MG
Haters will say that IronArmenian fell off. I say he fell UP
As an Italian main, I can speak more on the Ariete's second engine. The engine is a British-built expendable engine meant to be used on cruise missiles with no throttle control other than on and off. In-game, the engine is powerful enough to fly the Ariete without the main engine and is only on when full power + WEP is on (which would be shown as a sudden increase in temperature and the raising of the tail air intake. There was even another Sagittario 2 derivative that was going to be powered purely by a rocket motor called the Leone (though the project was abandoned before a prototype could be built.
The designer of the Sagittario 2 and Ariete, Sergio Stefanutti, also made another aircraft I would love to see in the game, the Ambrosini SS.4. The SS.4 had only one prototype made and it is essentially Italy's version of the American XP-55. However, don't be fooled by me calling it Italy's version of the XP-55 when it is actually the other way around. The SS.4 was first flown in March of 1939, at least 9 months before the Army Air Corp's proposal in November of the same year for unconventional aircraft designs for improved performance and another 3 years before Curtiss-Wright would first fly the XP-55.
For a second, i thought you were talking about ariete the tank, not the plane.
@@alexmaximus9134 C1 Ariete with a jet booster will be funny to see. Or boosted tanks in general.
Yeah these boosters are extremely useful when playing as bombers. especially when you are close to the bombing target or need a et away.
Early jet bombers suffer.
nah bro early jet bombers probably are probably the most playable out of all bombers since you get an air spawn and can dive down quickly
Imagine if Japan was able to build some Ki 200s and making it the first mid air-man guided bomber a.k.a the first man guided missile in the world.
Hey Iron, what is your opinion on the Po-2? Since you been with War thunder as long as I can remember, I believe you would have the most valid opinion on the 2-OP
I recently got the Po-2 from this year's Halloween event, and I love it because it is, In the only way I can describe it, such a meme aircraft that i can't help but smile even when things aren't going my way...
Great Video, good to know wich ones do and do not get those. I only have one Critique: Its Pronounced like Messerschmidt, you said Mesherschmidt. Not a big deal, just wanted to tell you.
Okay, noted :)
I wonder if you could make a Me163 in modern times and eliminate its major problems
I would like to see the Me-263 in WT. It had proper landing gear and 15 mins of flight time. Whole not perfect that seems to fix 2 big flaws with the Me-163
Saunders Roe SR.177 in War Thunder when?
When you spoke of the Kikka fighter, you mentioned that the fighter deviates from the original plane it was meant to be.
That is most probabbly because a lot of the documents sent to Japan for the recreation of the Messerschmith 262 were lost with the sinking of the U boat which was carrying them. I am not aware of details, but for all I read in my armaments books, said U-boat was sunk and later the documents were retrieved by Japanese divers. That may be the reason why the design deviates. Another reason might be Japanese engineers changing up the design on their own accord.
It appears that later on in the video, you mention the submarines in question... I didn't watch that part when I wrote the comment above
Holy shit when did they add the spark effect when belly landing???
In the new update around last week
I have forgotten at the Russian jet bombers have boosters so I have learned to take off without them
you managed to take off without boosters😱😱
Omg more stuff. I LIVE THIS STUFF. PLEASE GIVE ME MORE USELESS ANS USEFULL INFO I ALSO CRAVE THE FT 17 RENAULT GAIJIN
I despise the BI with all of my body and soul, especially since it can fly for over an hour at about 300 kmh at low throttle. Overall good video
6:55
Extending the runtime for money purposes detected
Every The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs
In War Thunder
New video idea: All rocket boosted/powered tanks
*German plane intensifies*
can you do whacky cannons next e.g. schrage musik?
I wasn't sure what list to put them on.
I was gona add them to heavy cannons video as a bonus but I didn't in the end.
Same booster as the IL-28, with a burn-time of 12 seconds.
Where is the music from at the very start of the video??
4:21 i would not recomend this, with the new runway changes it is nigh impossible to survive landing without gear.
I did a test flight for the video where I landed it and I didn't explode :D
Maybe people are used to belly landing at 400+kph 🤣
@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs Huh, i thought they just made belly landings impossible, i always land on my gear even before this update so i didn't know it was still possible below 400.
when are we gonna get the f104 RATO that let it be launched from a trailer
heck yahhh!!!!
Unique bomb bays/delivery systems?
Yep, that's a list. Swing out arms. Turning over bomb bays. So many cool munitions delivery devices. :D
Do you have any tips for starting war thunder UA-camrs?
can you pronounce the names right bro messer-schmit not mesher-smit, illyushin not iylusha lmfaoo, nakajima not nakazima
I want the F-104 to get its rocket booster, for the lols.
5:42
Please look up how to pronounce Messerschmidt it is frying my brain
The s is pronounced as in English and the sch is the sound that would be written ch as in change in English
I had a dream we were in the same bed.
Your voice irritates. Stop that :)