I'm playing since release. I'm F2P. I already had 4 character level 90 with 3 skill level 10 each and already had the mats to upgrade Xiangli Yao to and his weapon to max level with 3 skills level 10. Some of my other character are level 60/70/80. So material feels lacking could happened to some people because they are farming too much echo material, probably because they feel the need on having double crit echo. Echo has many RNG right now, but its not absolutely needed to have double crit on every echo. My level 80 Havoc Rover could defeat the 4th floor of ToA with 70/200 crit ratio. If some player want Kuro to change something, all they need to do is write feedback. There is in-game feedback icon for that reason. There is also survey for player to write feedback on every patch. So lets complain there and write feedback for the game to keep improving.
Echo substat reroll f me over lol. Only have 3 maxed character, because rerolling those double echos. My maxed chars are H.Rover, Zhezhi, Jinshi. Danjin's skills are still on lv7 while my Chixia's skills are on lv8. Their echos all have double crit tho, and I can already 30* tower.
So thats the level of investment i should strive for. Thank you for sharing. I have been leveling up so many characters because i just like them, and now i'm lacking a hella amount of mats. Maybe around 4 characters with decent skills and echoes can clear 30 stars for me.
dude thats another issue i have. so ex I levelled 25 an echo and it doesnt have any crit stats in the roll stats. Now I cant use the other 4 rarity echoes to level it unless if they are already levelled. and if they are already levelled 25, I can only get up to 22 levels on the new echo and still im not guaranteed crit substats. Such a huge gamble when resources not enough. :(
@@veedizzy I agree. There is still many RNG in echo system, especially sub stats. Thats why i already send feedback about echo loadouts, echo substats reroll item like in PGR (their previous game), or a way to increase sub stats number (ex: from 12.6% to 21% CDMG) and other things. That's why we should ask many players to do the same so that "if there is many complain, they would do it asap." It will get improved, but for how long we wait, thats the question. Have a nice day.
We might meet a lot of members in the blackshores from different countries Since Aalto stated thst the organization is partnered by all countries. So we'll see playable characters 4/5 stars
Resources really are limited. The currency itself is scarce. Leveling up resonators is expensive. Leveling up their weapon is expensive. Another is the tuners. It's so limited, as it is trial and error. I got Yinlin, her weapon, Jinshi, her weapon, Changli, her weapon, Zhezhi, and her weapon. I will also go for Shorekeeper and Camellya. Yeah. It's limited as fck. Level up mats are limited, currency is limited, tuners are limited, and asterites are so damn limited. I just got lucky and got a few of them and their weapons early and some 50/50 wins. But if not, I wouldn't have half of these waifus on my roster.😂 Anyway, subbed kabayan! Keep up the content.
@@veedizzy Imma check it out, but to be honest, I only care about waifus, man. I only pull waifus. I ain't even gonna touch that Xiangli Yao. He ain't ever coming off the bench. Imma wait for your future waifu guides brother.🤣🤣🤣
i am definitely suffering under not enough resources. As a f2p player that started 3 weeks after launch, I've been fortunate but also unfortunate to be able to get all the limited banner characters in under 120 pulls and win all my 50 50 , leaving me with 20k free astrites to spend on later banners, but its also unfortunate because I cant choose to level up all of them, I had to choose changli and jinyan, and yinlin as the first 3 limited characters to level up while my jinhsi, zhezi, jiangxin, verina, are all lvl 1. :[ also my wish luck is insane with a average 18 pity, but my echoe substat luck is terrible. my echoes suck. I've only been able to achieve 21 stars in tower of adversity.... Union level 65 as well.
I think that's just mismanagement of resources there. I started towards the end of Yinlin's banner and I'm at UL62. From this double event alone I've been able to get Rover, Jinhsi, Encore & Danjin to 9-10 Fortes in their important categories and around 60 CR, 210-250 CD on each of their echo sets. I only run Tacet Fields during the double event and use the Tuners and exp I get from events. This week makes my 3rd 30/30 ToA. Make sure to only focus your primary DPS's. Your Supports only need to be level 50 for their 1st inherent skill and any Sub-DPS's can be around level 70. Running Tacet Fields too early and too much (aside from double drop events) can cut a lot of the progression you could've had going after the more guaranteed upgrades.
it's really hard to say people just mismanage resources. ther really no shortcut around this. When i started and i started on launch, I got 3 5-stars and a bunch of 4-stars. Of course, I had to level those up. Then jiyan came in and even though i was only building pity for him, I got him at 40. Now, I have to stop levelling the 4-stars in order to level up the 5-stars since i have them all. Plus, I only play for a few hours since i have a day job and i also create content which takes up so much time. Although I am really happy for those who are managing the situation well. I could only envy you guys. Thanks for commenting it was very insightful from both of you
@@veedizzy yeah around UL50 I had to start planning out my upgrades. I did a lot of Tacet Fields in my UL30's and UL40's trying to stress echoes that my Fortes were rather barren despite being the largest increase. I didn't realize how many resources you got from Forgery Challenges when accounting for Synthesizing either.
I feel like yeah the resources on shell credits suck atm but give it some time and then we'll have the same problem that these games always have of us not havimg anything to really spen our credits on that or just stop upping the bill on yourself. A new way to get credits would be nice but not need yet.
It's needed as hell.. I have just done credit farming this week and will the next, even with double gain on three runs that's not even enough for weapon and character experience for shorekeeper. Then I need credits for the skills.. Then I need the boss materials and level up materials.. If she comes after the free character dudes banner then probably not. Not that I'm stressing but, it's really damn needed, all resources, credits to level up materials to everything.. Also all my other gacha games I needed credits on too, I can have 12 mil in genshin and all gone in a second. Maybe we are just playing differently or not the same games, but this game seriously needs to boost it so we can play and explore more characters. It's getting stale.
@@dongarippo7279 i think its fun and the gameplay is superb. But unless they re-math the resources, people will get discouraged especially in this early game
thanks po kapatid! Camellya might be at that level but for havoc. Goodluck sa mga wishes at salamat sa sub. Kung mya kakilala ka pa na naglalaro, pakisabi na lang yung channel. Sana maka-1k subs ito and become one of the biggest wuwa creator channels sa YT.
f2p. 3 chars maxed. 6 others at level 81 with talents 6. 4 five star weapons + 2 variations. its resource management game. dont do tacet fields until you max your chars. ToA is really not that important. If you only get 21-24 stars its 2 wishes per patch.
Bad news for you: Camellya is main dps. Her kit is quite similar with H.Rover, you had to get stacks(you do that by basic atk5, reso skill and reso liberation) then go into another mode that buff herself. We still don't know about the outro tho, hope she have good outro.
@@veedizzy I’m talking about Jinhsi being an azure dragon motif and Changli being a vermillion bird motif. Now, I just wanna see the white tiger and the black tortoise ones coming up next
The only issue I see is that I have to wait another entire patch to get Camellya😂 Jokes aside, I've only gotten zhezhi and Jinshi from the limited banner and so far I maxed out those two and Encore and that was enough for me to clear all content with ease. Now I'm hoarding shell credits and lvl up materials until I know what to prefarm for Camellya
@@veedizzy kaya nga pre eh. 1 cost pa lang ina upgrade ko ubos na tubes tapos malas pa sa substat. kung ano ano ng pamahiin ginagawa ko para maka double crit 😂
example pre kagabi I have 1.2m shell creds. So ni-level up ko si Zhezhi to 70 ha and now I only have 220k shell creds. OMG paubus na ako and in 3 days andito na si Zhangli Yao oh noes
@@veedizzy I feel for ya. Kuro is really trying to force people to spend. The upcoming back to back, high priority character banners are going to crush many souls 😮💨
No. That would just add to the grindy feeling. Increase the reward instead, I rather do domain once but get more, than having to do it twice to get more.
genshin has less total resin thats why domains cost less while wuwa has more waveplates but the domain costs are also higher, i still think kuro should consider adding condensed resin to get 2x the rewards in 2x less time
@@parryblockdodgeit's only 180 resin against 240 plates per day. What we should compare instead is rewards we get and energy we spend for those rewards, i.e. it takes 3.33 days worth of resin to gain all ascension materials in genshin, and ~4.5 days worth of waveplates in wuwa. Same goes for other resources
I disagree in most of it. I am a whale. Whales' loves "Casual", I can max every character I pulled, without even pre-farming because I can just refill if I want to. But for low spender, the problem here is the player's management. If I am in a right mind , even after reaching UL 60, I wouldn't going to LvL 90 my resonator YET and proceed balancing my materials for other resonators knowing that my resource will have shortage. I did try that since XiangLiao is free I might as well make him my first F2P friendly. All my upgrade materials took me 15 days to get, even before the 2x drop. 1. You can anticipate your material cost like a project manager, you just need to do a simple math. Thats why google introduced ascension calculator, for those who don't know. 2. Some players are blinded with echoes since the beginning, instead of using their waveplates on farming mats, they tend to do Tacet discord even without 2x drop knowing it is RNG. Minmaxing a character doesn't always need to have a double crit piece; you just need to roll a piece that you think have a good stat to make up with your damage so you can cheese out ToA bosses/enemies. Echoe is pretty much having the most things that will cut off your resources, when eventually you can have good pieces with strategizing your rolls the more you progress in game. 3. Some players don't want to phase out and do max ToA but like hitting 3-star at remaining two floors doesn't give much compared to what they have invested in their characters. 100 astrites for completing 2 remaining floors doesn't change anything and personally don't think it's worth. I rather want to have my full team ready before I max floor.
What is farming mats? (Materials?) I got recommended to farm tacet discord Help me understand what shall I prioritize to farm I am already maxed out on my characters and halfway done with skills as well, I just don't have good echos
@@gwanetayla7683 Mats is material yes. Tacet Discord is optional always, if you're not planning to upgrade any character or not pulling a character in the next patch then building echoes is what's left to do, this is called min maxing.
@@gwanetayla7683 Farming mats = Skill level up, Weapon level up, Character level up. These all have guaranteed outcome and result that boost your character base damage output with little RNG involved. For main damage dealer, getting them to 80-90 not only increase base stats, but reduce the penalty damage due to level difference from target (mostly Tower boss that has level 90-100). For a lot of damage dealer, leveling main skill (usually Resonance skill, Forte, or Liberation) from 6->10 is a huge jump in multiplier. This and character/weapon level should be your priority. You can use lv25 echoes without caring much for its substats as base for now, and working on skills and level first, then once you get the foundation done, work on your echoes, as it is purely waveplate sink. Since you can farm echo pieces in the overworld, you don't need to actively do Tacet field more than 2 days per week unless all your characters are max.
Finally someone with some god-damn common sense. The "min/max everything"-philosophy has taken over the past decade so much that people forgot what efficiancy is.
I'm playing since release. I'm F2P. I already had 4 character level 90 with 3 skill level 10 each and already had the mats to upgrade Xiangli Yao to and his weapon to max level with 3 skills level 10. Some of my other character are level 60/70/80. So material feels lacking could happened to some people because they are farming too much echo material, probably because they feel the need on having double crit echo. Echo has many RNG right now, but its not absolutely needed to have double crit on every echo. My level 80 Havoc Rover could defeat the 4th floor of ToA with 70/200 crit ratio.
If some player want Kuro to change something, all they need to do is write feedback. There is in-game feedback icon for that reason. There is also survey for player to write feedback on every patch. So lets complain there and write feedback for the game to keep improving.
you are so blessed. thanks so much for sharing your experience.
Echo substat reroll f me over lol. Only have 3 maxed character, because rerolling those double echos. My maxed chars are H.Rover, Zhezhi, Jinshi. Danjin's skills are still on lv7 while my Chixia's skills are on lv8. Their echos all have double crit tho, and I can already 30* tower.
So thats the level of investment i should strive for. Thank you for sharing. I have been leveling up so many characters because i just like them, and now i'm lacking a hella amount of mats. Maybe around 4 characters with decent skills and echoes can clear 30 stars for me.
dude thats another issue i have. so ex I levelled 25 an echo and it doesnt have any crit stats in the roll stats. Now I cant use the other 4 rarity echoes to level it unless if they are already levelled. and if they are already levelled 25, I can only get up to 22 levels on the new echo and still im not guaranteed crit substats. Such a huge gamble when resources not enough. :(
@@veedizzy I agree. There is still many RNG in echo system, especially sub stats. Thats why i already send feedback about echo loadouts, echo substats reroll item like in PGR (their previous game), or a way to increase sub stats number (ex: from 12.6% to 21% CDMG) and other things. That's why we should ask many players to do the same so that "if there is many complain, they would do it asap." It will get improved, but for how long we wait, thats the question. Have a nice day.
We might meet a lot of members in the blackshores from different countries
Since Aalto stated thst the organization is partnered by all countries.
So we'll see playable characters 4/5 stars
yah that would be quite exciting :D
Resources really are limited. The currency itself is scarce. Leveling up resonators is expensive. Leveling up their weapon is expensive. Another is the tuners. It's so limited, as it is trial and error. I got Yinlin, her weapon, Jinshi, her weapon, Changli, her weapon, Zhezhi, and her weapon. I will also go for Shorekeeper and Camellya. Yeah. It's limited as fck. Level up mats are limited, currency is limited, tuners are limited, and asterites are so damn limited. I just got lucky and got a few of them and their weapons early and some 50/50 wins. But if not, I wouldn't have half of these waifus on my roster.😂
Anyway, subbed kabayan! Keep up the content.
Extremely true. Really hope they adjust the resource drops. Thank you kabayan sa sub I am uploading my Xiangli Yao guide :)
@@veedizzy Imma check it out, but to be honest, I only care about waifus, man. I only pull waifus. I ain't even gonna touch that Xiangli Yao. He ain't ever coming off the bench. Imma wait for your future waifu guides brother.🤣🤣🤣
@@lestercruz4073 no worries kabayan :)
i am definitely suffering under not enough resources. As a f2p player that started 3 weeks after launch, I've been fortunate but also unfortunate to be able to get all the limited banner characters in under 120 pulls and win all my 50 50 , leaving me with 20k free astrites to spend on later banners, but its also unfortunate because I cant choose to level up all of them, I had to choose changli and jinyan, and yinlin as the first 3 limited characters to level up while my jinhsi, zhezi, jiangxin, verina, are all lvl 1. :[ also my wish luck is insane with a average 18 pity, but my echoe substat luck is terrible. my echoes suck. I've only been able to achieve 21 stars in tower of adversity.... Union level 65 as well.
I think that's just mismanagement of resources there. I started towards the end of Yinlin's banner and I'm at UL62. From this double event alone I've been able to get Rover, Jinhsi, Encore & Danjin to 9-10 Fortes in their important categories and around 60 CR, 210-250 CD on each of their echo sets. I only run Tacet Fields during the double event and use the Tuners and exp I get from events. This week makes my 3rd 30/30 ToA.
Make sure to only focus your primary DPS's. Your Supports only need to be level 50 for their 1st inherent skill and any Sub-DPS's can be around level 70. Running Tacet Fields too early and too much (aside from double drop events) can cut a lot of the progression you could've had going after the more guaranteed upgrades.
it's really hard to say people just mismanage resources. ther really no shortcut around this. When i started and i started on launch, I got 3 5-stars and a bunch of 4-stars. Of course, I had to level those up. Then jiyan came in and even though i was only building pity for him, I got him at 40. Now, I have to stop levelling the 4-stars in order to level up the 5-stars since i have them all. Plus, I only play for a few hours since i have a day job and i also create content which takes up so much time. Although I am really happy for those who are managing the situation well. I could only envy you guys. Thanks for commenting it was very insightful from both of you
@@veedizzy yeah around UL50 I had to start planning out my upgrades. I did a lot of Tacet Fields in my UL30's and UL40's trying to stress echoes that my Fortes were rather barren despite being the largest increase. I didn't realize how many resources you got from Forgery Challenges when accounting for Synthesizing either.
thanks bud for the insight. Yeah one thing i could do is farm when there is an event for these certain items. Coul;d work out.
I feel like yeah the resources on shell credits suck atm but give it some time and then we'll have the same problem that these games always have of us not havimg anything to really spen our credits on that or just stop upping the bill on yourself. A new way to get credits would be nice but not need yet.
thanks for the encouragement :)
It's needed as hell.. I have just done credit farming this week and will the next, even with double gain on three runs that's not even enough for weapon and character experience for shorekeeper. Then I need credits for the skills.. Then I need the boss materials and level up materials..
If she comes after the free character dudes banner then probably not. Not that I'm stressing but, it's really damn needed, all resources, credits to level up materials to everything..
Also all my other gacha games I needed credits on too, I can have 12 mil in genshin and all gone in a second. Maybe we are just playing differently or not the same games, but this game seriously needs to boost it so we can play and explore more characters. It's getting stale.
@@dongarippo7279 i think its fun and the gameplay is superb. But unless they re-math the resources, people will get discouraged especially in this early game
Your videos are actually pretty good, quality-wise.
I'm surprised that you don't have many views/subs..
Keep up the good work ♥
Thanks, will do! I appreciate the support.
I'm not summoning until a next jinshi level character, I'll stay at 27 dorritos on tower for now. Subbed kapatid.
thanks po kapatid! Camellya might be at that level but for havoc. Goodluck sa mga wishes at salamat sa sub. Kung mya kakilala ka pa na naglalaro, pakisabi na lang yung channel. Sana maka-1k subs ito and become one of the biggest wuwa creator channels sa YT.
f2p. 3 chars maxed. 6 others at level 81 with talents 6.
4 five star weapons + 2 variations.
its resource management game. dont do tacet fields until you max your chars.
ToA is really not that important. If you only get 21-24 stars its 2 wishes per patch.
thanks for the advice. :)
Bad news for you: Camellya is main dps. Her kit is quite similar with H.Rover, you had to get stacks(you do that by basic atk5, reso skill and reso liberation) then go into another mode that buff herself. We still don't know about the outro tho, hope she have good outro.
not really bad news. I kinda expected that. :)
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hey salamat sa suporta. also, pakisabi sa mga kakilala na nag wuwuwa about the channel :)
I just wanna have the white tiger motif and black tortoise motif characters next
not sure but as far as i know all existing echoes will have their phantom versions
@@veedizzy
I’m talking about Jinhsi being an azure dragon motif and Changli being a vermillion bird motif. Now, I just wanna see the white tiger and the black tortoise ones coming up next
i thought it is called phantom versions of the echoes - the other color motifs
The only issue I see is that I have to wait another entire patch to get Camellya😂
Jokes aside, I've only gotten zhezhi and Jinshi from the limited banner and so far I maxed out those two and Encore and that was enough for me to clear all content with ease. Now I'm hoarding shell credits and lvl up materials until I know what to prefarm for Camellya
its a good problem to have :D
She's a dps in place of havoc mc obviously, you'll be dumb to think otherwise
doesnt surprise me that she is DPS.
Yea wish they improve the echo upgrades. Shell credits and echo exp are the hardest in ths game. Kaka upgrade ko ng echo bro bankrupt na pala ako 😂😂
agree ako pre. Ako rin dun ako most nahihirapan kasi nga laki impact nya and yung cost to upgrade parang a bit sobra sa akin. laging kulang
@@veedizzy kaya nga pre eh. 1 cost pa lang ina upgrade ko ubos na tubes tapos malas pa sa substat. kung ano ano ng pamahiin ginagawa ko para maka double crit 😂
example pre kagabi I have 1.2m shell creds. So ni-level up ko si Zhezhi to 70 ha and now I only have 220k shell creds. OMG paubus na ako and in 3 days andito na si Zhangli Yao oh noes
@@veedizzy korek pre dadating c yao ng pulube tayo 😂😂
Aray ko XD
Resources for this game is a struggle. Either you have to bust out your wallet or not go after every character... sad truth 🙃
as a content creator, it's hard to make early reviews bec the drops just not enough
@@veedizzy I feel for ya. Kuro is really trying to force people to spend. The upcoming back to back, high priority character banners are going to crush many souls 😮💨
it's a hard knock life for us mortals.
@@veedizzy 😅🥲.... yeeeahhhh. May the gacha odds be in our favor.
@@Photos-NXS-Jayce indeed thanks :)
Just tone down the cost of stamina, in genshin 1 domain run costs 20 resin in wuwa 40. Bosses 40 in wuwa 60
yeash that is a good suggestion as well. thanks
No. That would just add to the grindy feeling. Increase the reward instead, I rather do domain once but get more, than having to do it twice to get more.
genshin has less total resin thats why domains cost less while wuwa has more waveplates but the domain costs are also higher, i still think kuro should consider adding condensed resin to get 2x the rewards in 2x less time
@@parryblockdodgeit's only 180 resin against 240 plates per day. What we should compare instead is rewards we get and energy we spend for those rewards, i.e. it takes 3.33 days worth of resin to gain all ascension materials in genshin, and ~4.5 days worth of waveplates in wuwa. Same goes for other resources
true
Literally the first world problems:
and I am in the Philippines so i guess its paradoxical
Confirm naba yung controller support sa mobile sa 1.03 update?
wala pang confirmation from Kuro so waiting pa rin
Dont do tacet discord without event for it.
thanks for the advice :)
I disagree in most of it. I am a whale. Whales' loves "Casual", I can max every character I pulled, without even pre-farming because I can just refill if I want to.
But for low spender, the problem here is the player's management. If I am in a right mind , even after reaching UL 60, I wouldn't going to LvL 90 my resonator YET and proceed balancing my materials for other resonators knowing that my resource will have shortage. I did try that since XiangLiao is free I might as well make him my first F2P friendly. All my upgrade materials took me 15 days to get, even before the 2x drop.
1. You can anticipate your material cost like a project manager, you just need to do a simple math. Thats why google introduced ascension calculator, for those who don't know.
2. Some players are blinded with echoes since the beginning, instead of using their waveplates on farming mats, they tend to do Tacet discord even without 2x drop knowing it is RNG. Minmaxing a character doesn't always need to have a double crit piece; you just need to roll a piece that you think have a good stat to make up with your damage so you can cheese out ToA bosses/enemies. Echoe is pretty much having the most things that will cut off your resources, when eventually you can have good pieces with strategizing your rolls the more you progress in game.
3. Some players don't want to phase out and do max ToA but like hitting 3-star at remaining two floors doesn't give much compared to what they have invested in their characters. 100 astrites for completing 2 remaining floors doesn't change anything and personally don't think it's worth. I rather want to have my full team ready before I max floor.
good points. thanks
What is farming mats? (Materials?)
I got recommended to farm tacet discord
Help me understand what shall I prioritize to farm I am already maxed out on my characters and halfway done with skills as well, I just don't have good echos
@@gwanetayla7683
Mats is material yes. Tacet Discord is optional always, if you're not planning to upgrade any character or not pulling a character in the next patch then building echoes is what's left to do, this is called min maxing.
@@gwanetayla7683 Farming mats = Skill level up, Weapon level up, Character level up. These all have guaranteed outcome and result that boost your character base damage output with little RNG involved.
For main damage dealer, getting them to 80-90 not only increase base stats, but reduce the penalty damage due to level difference from target (mostly Tower boss that has level 90-100).
For a lot of damage dealer, leveling main skill (usually Resonance skill, Forte, or Liberation) from 6->10 is a huge jump in multiplier. This and character/weapon level should be your priority.
You can use lv25 echoes without caring much for its substats as base for now, and working on skills and level first, then once you get the foundation done, work on your echoes, as it is purely waveplate sink.
Since you can farm echo pieces in the overworld, you don't need to actively do Tacet field more than 2 days per week unless all your characters are max.
Finally someone with some god-damn common sense.
The "min/max everything"-philosophy has taken over the past decade so much that people forgot what efficiancy is.
So...still no 5* gunner. Pass.
yeah sadly none atm.
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