"hospital record showed daisy sustained injuries consistent with rape" "the charge was dropped due to insufficient evidence" american legal system is a joke 😂😂
How is it a joke? Honestly she was asking for it. She shouldn’t have drank a shit load of alcohol to the point where she couldn’t even walk or talk. “I did it because I thought it was cool” maybe if she didn’t drink so much it probably wouldn’t have happened. I think both her and the guy are at fault.
Aly Neville wow. blame the victim? disgusting. getting black out drunk is not consenting to someone having sex with you. guys can get black out drunk without fear of being raped so why should women not be able to do the same. Rape is the fault of one person only and thats the rapist.
@@delaneystille3033 i read an article that said she killed herself because she learned that she couldn’t have babies because of the rape. Her mother has now killed herself. 4 months after Daisy’s death.
Hands down, this series is one of the best ever produced by Broadly. All women portrait so far a courageous and strong, including Amanda Knox as a great interviewer.
"Missouri, like most states, takes the difference in age between the partners into account when determining whether statutory rape has actually occurred. It is legal for a person to have sex with someone who is under the age of consent so long as both parties are at least 14 years old and under 21 years old." www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/missouri-age-of-consent-lawyers.html I still think it was rape but it's not automatically considered statutory rape based on the age difference in the state.
I’m a man. 43. Women’s issues and their liberation has been important to my life since before I knew what the word feminism was. And these stories never cease to educate me as a man. This series by Knox is fantastic. Her interviewing is fantastic, and her dialogue with her subjects seems to come from the heart honestly. This video in particular was difficult to watch. You can see both women bonding through difficult experiences. I really hope one day that these kinds of stories become rare, instead of common as they are today.
you are a real man then, I am a girl and I protect weaker than me, children, elders, pets...I do not understand how the abuse of a weaker creature even crosses someone's mind...
Thank you 😊 ❤ it means a lot. A los of women who don’t have strong role models need good men to stand up and respect and protect women. Over the past few hundred years, women may not have had the rights they had today, but Men were proud to provide for and protect women, open doors for them and stand up for them. Along with equality, I think some men have lost that part of their masculine identity.
My school did the same exact thing. none of the kids who harassed me got in trouble for it and the boy who assaulted me got suspended for a week and that was it, even though the assault was technically on school grounds but not in school hours. I was told not to talk about what happened yet every where I went in school someone was saying something to me about it, I remember sitting alone in the bathroom because people would scream 'rape' and 'liar' at me when I went to get lunch. I reported my assault to the police and even though the assault kit came out positive, they told me it was 'my word against his' so they did nothing and he got away with it. So many more people need to be aware of this problem that girls and boys all over the world are dealing with.
Cami I am sorry you were treated so awful by the people that are supposed to protect you. This is hard to watch. I am making my daughter’s watch this. Thank you for sharing your story.
Ugh. I hate it when police use their own bias not to do their job, did you hold onto the evidence and continue to keep pressing charges? When situations like that happen that's when you have to invest into a lawyer, but I'm aware not everyone can afford one.
@@starcherry6814 I wanted to keep it going but I don't think my family wanted the 'drama' of it. We can't afford a lawyer sadly. I have reported it a few times again on an anonymous report but nothing has ever come of it. I'm not sure what to do at this point.
@@tatujohnny Thank you for reading my story. Awareness for this is good to spread at any age, I hope your daughter learns a lot from this and I hope you continue shedding light on the topic to your family. The world needs more people that are willing to open their eyes to the reality of assault (and the after affects).
@@winnietrose Hold on to any evidence that you have and all reports that you've made. When you feel like you're ready to try pressing charges again down the line you'll have what you need.
I want us to stop using the phrase "losing one's innocence" because it's the perpetrator who has really lost his or her innocence, legally speaking. The victim has committed no crime, so the victim remains innocent.
I interpreted the use of innocence a proxy for youth and protection from life's cruelty, rather than being free from blame. As in the trauma forced her to grow up and harden faster than she would have otherwise.
@@Li2k2007 I think you're correct in your interpretation, but the OP also has an interesting point in how language can affect our perception of the victims by, essentially, stripping them of their innocent child status. There's no doubt you're fundentally changed as a person by assault, but this new person isn't the person who was violated. The public empathizes better with that person. Unfair as fuck and twisted but it's true.
Do you get what it means when says losing one’s innocence no the victim has not committed no crime but he’s not talking about losing their innocence amazing loss or childhood when you lose your virginity as you lose your innocence because somebody stole it from you that’s what I mean
Your name should be engraved in history books. You were a significant woman. You were great! You mattered a lot to millions of women around the world. Respect and love from a devastated woman from Australia
I got drunk with a woman and thought that it was consensual and still remember it being that way to this day but a week after she said on social media that she was sexually assaulted by me. I went from feeling ashamed to mad and then furious. Then about a year later someone showed me her facebook and I clearly saw how she changed and just didn't seem to have the glow I remembered her having. I reached out to her and asked if she would like to talk to me. In my surprise she replied with a long emotional message about how I ruined her life and that she has been wanting to die and how I destroyed everything for her. I just felt heartbroken. Even though I don't remember it going down that way at all I realised that it was beyond a debate and that someones life was very negatively effected by me and I guess I just cant live with that. I asked her what I could do and she responded after sometime asking me to take responsibility and so I did. I made a post on facebook and openly talked about the situation. Hearing about this young lady's death makes me feel so happy I did that. I now am at peace with myself. Idk who may read this but if you happen to be a guy who has experienced the same thing please reach out to the person. Show that your putting their feelings above yours.
Bingo. I am a mid 30's married man with 2 kids (1 daughter) and went to a big, part state school. I was lucky, I assume, because I was brought up in a somewhat strict christian household so I wasn't all about getting girls drunk and constantly trying to get laid (in mostly serious relationships) but most of my buddies were all about it and frankly I thought it was the ways things were. Being older and having kids of mine own now, we need to do a better job of educating our kids of the real dangers and emotional turmoil that inappropriate sexual experiences can have when your young. With adult material being so accessible now, having an in-depth, somewhat graphic conversation with young people needs to happen way before high school...
It takes a real man to analyze themself. I realize my assaulter did not know it wasn’t consensual as well. It really is normalized. So many movies where the guy gets the girl drunk and considered okay. I can name like 3 Seth Rogan movies. Anyways, you should be proud. I hope you let her know you didn’t know and you can forgive yourself
Thank you for being brave enough to share this and have the integrity to ask how you could help her. That would’ve helped her so much in her life. And perhaps she had her own reasons unrelated to you as to why she reacted so strongly….but the point was that you didn’t look for a way to blame her. You saw she was hurting and found a way to help if you could. ❤❤❤❤❤ I’m encouraged by this.
It breaks my heart to see that this beautiful soul left us, probably crying not wanting to die but feeling like this is the only choice for the pain to end. Our world is cruel and not fair.
I lived in Maryville when this happened. I remember everything about it, when the case came to light I was in 4th grade. I didn’t even know what rape was. I personally didn’t really know Daisy but could easily recognize her last name and her because it was a small town. Barnett was my second grade teacher’s son. Another man involved was my best friends relative. Living in Maryville at this time was a really scary time, I remember articles being wrote about how horrible everything was here, getting bomb and gun threats at my elementary school, and having family members refuse to talk to us for even living there. The ENTIRE town wasn’t aware of this happening much like people say but there was definitely some covering up and hush hush, as that was how many issues were handled there. Maryville isn’t always the most welcoming for new people, to say the least, if you aren’t born there you’re an outsider and have a harder time but most people are fairly nice. This entire case as I got older was really crazy to watch transpire and really sad to see people I knew involved in it; even if they were on the wrong side of it. My heart goes out to Daisy though, as I personally know how harsh those kids and adults that live there are.
Thelma Beans rapists allies and friends will bully victims over “false allegation” claims, sadly. Especially in cases where the charges are dropped or never filed.
As I man, I’m horrified by the ignorance that young men now have towards the concept of consent. Many young men in addition have a strong sense of entitlement when it comes to sex. So many men are emotionally immature that women are at risk and they should not have to feel that way. We don’t spend enough time educating boys and girls about sexual consent. As a result we have so many victims of rape, sexual assault and far too many ruined lives.
I agree. Yes, we can joke about a situation such as death as an irony. However, the problem is that for many of the sexual jokes boys make, they joke to trigger their own pride, like sexually assaulting is something to be proud of. Whatever the cause, they are taking it took lightly.
Everyone needs to watch the documentary on this case. The Sheriff literally said that rape victims are liars and attention-seekers and laughed when presented with evidence of the assault.
This series is so great! Thank you Amanda for these interviews. Im very sorry for what happened to you and these women. This is the start if the change.
Hmm. Saw the news of her suicide, and this is the first time hearing about her. Sounds like the verbal abuse was way worse than the actual assault. I think this is big reason why rape victims are hesitant to speak out immediately.
Thank you for giving my 11, 12 and 13 year old self a voice. I wasn't raped, but molested by my best friend at the time's father. I've long said privately that the court process and bullying was more traumatic than the two instances he molested me. Thank you for speaking out on this.
This woman is courageous beyond belief and she is so intelligent and creatively gifted. I think when this happened it allowed her to touch into that part of herself that might have otherwise been buried. You rock Daisy!
So sad that this beautiful girl who suffered at the hands of her attackers & later a group of corrupt people, is now gone. RIP Daisy Coleman. I hope you find the peace you were unable to achieve in this life.
FYI Amanda Knox, when a person is sexually assaulted they don’t “lose their innocence.” I say that because that’s a toxic language to use when it comes to the topic of sexual assault, because then survivors feel like people don’t believe them because “they’ve lost their innocence.” Now I understand your intentions but a better phrase would be matured or grown from the incident. The only person that ever truly lost their innocence was the assaulter.
I can see how people can take "losing your innocence" the wrong way, as if you're guilty. I always took it as I'll never be the same. A part of me was taken away that I'll never have again, and I have to build a new self around that. That's how I always felt about it. Do you have some ideas for a better term?
@@cottoncandy113 Yeah I felt that way too at a point in time, it really wasn't good for my recovery from the trauma because I lost my sense of hope that I'd ever have a normal life again. That's why I said that she shouldn't word it like that because it's really discouraging to survivors. But phrases that help leave me with a sense of hope are: I've grown from the incident, as a person. Rebuilt myself. Recovered. I think that it's hard for people that haven't been assaulted to understand that sexual assault is not like a robbery, it's an attack. Nothing was taken from us but what really happened was that we were hurt. Physically and emotionally. However we're each strong complex human beings and we can recover from that trauma. There is hope.
As someone who has dealt with sexual assault I appreciate this comment, HOWEVER, I do think that there is validity in Amanda's statement because when you're assaulted it can really feel as though your innocence was taken.
RIP Daisy. I hope this video is meaningful for you. Let share it ua-cam.com/video/HoQ9PNArQSU/v-deo.html&t Daisy Coleman killed herself for sexual assault.
The way this whole story ended is so tragic. Not to mention all the things that happened that brought Daisy and her mom to the point of such a permanent solution. I feel so bad for kids today. When I was in high school, early 90s, there was no social media. Bullying happened, absolutely, I experienced it but it wasn't like within a matter of an hour, everyone at school knew about your mistakes. 2012, when I believe this assault (and yes, it was an assault) happened, the whole school knew about it within a day. And being at age 14, the kids at school ate your life. What people think about you really matters. You think that your whole life is ruined (when really it's only just beginning). That's a normal feeling for teenagers to have, my life is over. These kids nowadays, I truly empathize with what they go through.
Daisy, May you RIP with your brother who you missed and loved so much! I’m so sorry that this cruel world let you down & this monster got away without ever paying the price. To bully someone at all is disgusting but to bully someone over a rape is so cowardly. I hope each and every one of those people are proud of themselves. To Daisy’s family, I can’t begin to imagine your pain or your loss. My heart truly breaks for you. Daisy was a very strong lady and she truly gave back to those in need. She made more of a mark in her short 23 years than most do in a lifetime.❤️🙏
Daisy I never met you, and our paths may have never crossed but I feel the need to say you were strong when sharing, and by speaking up in a way you were giving back to the world, a true activist. This is my way of saying thank you. I hope you feel peace.
I really hope that Broadly takes this series and gives Amanda a half hour or even an hour format. I've watched every episode of this series in a single evening, and I have to say: Amanda is a skillful, empathetic interviewer. This content stands head and shoulders above so many of Broadly's other series, and I'm SO thankful that there's at least a corner of the internet where these embattled women get to share their stories and bond.
I love that Amanda pointed out Daisy can smile about it. People have a preconception about how survivors should react to their own trauma. That message just traumatizes them further by taking away more of their agency.
This broke my heart when it happened because those boys received A SLAP ON THE WRIST and assault is a lifetime experience but at the time... I'm from Missouri too & all the horrible stories out of our state has become heartbreaking.
@@hennacandles8356 Stfu, your "god" did nothing to alleviate her misery. Guess what, he doesn't exist. Daisy was a brave person and her memory will be honoured.
Daisy, I am so sorry that you lost your faith in humanity. I am sending you all the support and love from Turkey. Amanda thank you for sharing these stories, they empower women!
I love the laugh between them... it's a sign of growth! I love love love this series!!! DON'T STOP MAKING THESE!!! I'M a survivor, so it's my best friend, and my 2 sisters and my mom and my brother and my ex husband! This is important!!!!
I was so inspired by Daisy in this piece. At the end I thought, this woman is amazing, I can’t wait to see what she does in her life. I googled her to get an update, only to find that she died from suicide when she was just 23. An incredible loss for the world and what she could have brought to it. Then I read that her mother died from suicide shortly after. I feel so much empathy for what this family went through and hope they have some peace now.
If anyone is in a situation or knowing someone in the future (i hope not): Please go to the police ASAP and emergency room to get assessed by a SART nurse. Physical evidence is needed. The invisible bruises can still be seen under blue light after 30 days I believe. Even if you think it is too late, still report it! Your report can help someone else for support their case! And if it occured prior to age 18, you have 10 years to report! After age 18, you have 2 years to report according to the statute of limitations.
I did just that and they let my rape kit sit for so long... my Mom called multiple times for me .An officer only met with me twice about my case and I pointed the guy out in a photo of a bunch of guys that the officer showed me. He told me I had a good case and that the guy had a victim before me and his DNA was found on me, but then nothing. I get a call right after two years saying well it's now over two years sorry nothing can be done, but you can get therapy if you want it....what's the point.
Chelsea M ya the rule is 2 years. Unless it happened when you were under 18. BUT you may still have a case that because of the delay that it may be an exception. Always get legal advice. A lawyer has higher knowledge than a police officer. Sometimes at the university there may be student lawyers or volunteer lawyers available to help.
And I am so sorry you went through that. I lost some friends because of it . They thought it was a lie or over exaggeration because who would share that with few friends. Apparently we are suppose to keep it to ourselves. The friend I was with that night manipulated truth due her guilt and lack of accountability . I get regular flashbacks of it.
Both of you break my heart. My niece is 14 cheerleader who’s father passed away a year ago. I am also her coach. The girls that I coach I worry about so much. I have tried to teach them things that makes sense and unfortunately it’s hard for young girls to understand that the boys they hang out with that the boys they think are there friends are most likely the ones that are going to hurt you.
I coached my daughters soccer team for years. And those girls i also worry about as much as my own , now seeing them all around 16 i at every chance i get to remind them about being safe and in control of everything. They all know that no matter what time of day or night no matter the circumstances they can call me and I'll be there, no questions most of these girls come from super Catholic familys and are from broken families I've answered a few calls and my wife or i have gone and picked them up talked to them and their parents. Not trying to be superman but some of these parents and their kids are so naive, its crazy they think the church and prayer are the way. I'm not religious i dont pass judgement, but come people raise your kids they have to know not everyone is a good person. Be safe play fair and standup for yourself EVERYBODY.
The worst part of trauma is when people don't believe what happened to you and having to relive it over again. This case is so unfair and shame on the kids who bullied her. Just because someone talks about what happened to them doesn't mean they want attention their trying to process it and bring awareness and goodness to what happened to them. Its their way of healing and its no ones business to be judging it . RIP ;
I'm so incredibly sad to be learning of Daisy only now.. her story.. her semi column impacted life.. and then her ultimate full stop. To then learn that not only did she lose her Dad, her little brother.. but that her Mum is now with them all too.. is almost too hard to comprehend. My deepest respects to the two remaining brothers of this once beautiful Family.. may they both go on to create families of their own.. that their loved ones would be so proud of. This is a story that will continue to impact.. and create positive change. I'm just so deeply saddened that it came at such an irreplaceable cost 😔
Amanda knox, and for all the women who were assaulted, i salute your bravery. Well, haters go to hell. Dont mind other people say negative things to you. Anyways, i salute all you brave women!
What a monster he was to rape a child, and how cruel of the charges being dropped though the hospital records prove she was raped. Talk about misogyny being hoisted on a child. System has blood on its hands: she's now dead.
It's good to see Amanda thriving in her new career. It's also great to know that the ECHR judgement went massively in her favour with one of the rulings totally nullifying the case against her as follows: "The Court took the view that the Italian Government had not succeeded in showing that the restriction of Ms Knox’s access to a lawyer, at the police interview of 6 November 2007 at 5.45 a.m. - when there was a criminal charge against her - had not irreparably undermined the fairness of the proceedings as a whole." So now there is no excuse to persecute Amanda any further. If anyone does so it can only be through personal malice and spite.
As a man who had just learnt of this and other cases like this, I’m lost for words and saddened that this is happening… this is not the world we should all be living in.
Almost identical to what happened to me at 15, first date with the son of a prominent lawyer who kept spiking my coke. I knew nothing about hard liquor and went unconscious until dropped in my snowy yard late on the night before Christmas Eve. I knew I wouldn’t get anywhere reporting it. Date rape. That is rape. This guy was no child. Why didn’t he get charged with the crime he obviously committed? Her reputation was ruined, self respect shot, social life destroyed when she’d barely begun to step out. Like axing into a young tree, you live but deformed. You can’t get back to who you were or grow into who you should’ve been, the pain and damage and stigma change everything. It’s no more acceptable to undress and rape a woman unconscious from alcohol than from a bad fall, car accident or epileptic fit. What kind of boys are we raising? And what kind of parents and judge and town blame and punish her instead of him? Hounding her to her death? Mine happened 50 YEARS AGO and still haunts me. I went into a depression and would’ve slit my wrists except I was such a Catholic schoolgirl I was sure I’d go to real Hell and maybe the earth hell would end. It never did. But I was fortunate to get help, and whispers and gossip doesn’t last as long as texts and emails. Acknowledgement of the wrong done me would have somewhat relieved it for me and for her and the legions of defiled girls who rightly fear to speak up. That this could happen TODAY makes me sick. We need to do way better now for our daughters.
"hospital record showed daisy sustained injuries consistent with rape" "the charge was dropped due to insufficient evidence" american legal system is a joke 😂😂
True so is our president I feel ashamed to be American mainly because of trump XD
not only in american .. it's a problem for every women in every country
How is it a joke? Honestly she was asking for it. She shouldn’t have drank a shit load of alcohol to the point where she couldn’t even walk or talk. “I did it because I thought it was cool” maybe if she didn’t drink so much it probably wouldn’t have happened. I think both her and the guy are at fault.
Aly Neville wow. blame the victim? disgusting. getting black out drunk is not consenting to someone having sex with you. guys can get black out drunk without fear of being raped so why should women not be able to do the same. Rape is the fault of one person only and thats the rapist.
@@alycatt709 or maybe, ya know, he could've... not raped her?
Most heart breaking thing is she lost the battle... We lost an advocate and survivor yesterday. Truly saddening that she never moved past this...
Do you know? She just killed herself? Poor her
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She did move past it, if you read she was being stalked by someone recently and was threatened for her life so she killed herself
@@delaneystille3033 i read an article that said she killed herself because she learned that she couldn’t have babies because of the rape. Her mother has now killed herself. 4 months after Daisy’s death.
@@hehheh1204 smh men. life is a bitch and then you die. R.I.P 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
And her mother just committed suicide as well. Heartbreaking.
Daisy committed suicide at age 23, on August 4th, 2020. So sorry they let you down. And so sorry for your family.
So sorry about her death. Let fight agains sexual assault. I just watch this video . It is so meaning ful
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Her commited suicide too she can't live w/o Daisy. May their souls be rest in peace.
Her *mom
Charlie and Logan Coleman be safe!
Her mom committed suicide 4 months later. So sad.
She’s dead now. This is what happens when justice does not exist.
I hope she found the peace that evaded her in this life. RIP Daisy
Quelddy Angelina
How could she find peace?
She’s dead. There is no peace.
Really? OMG 😱
Right. Poor her. Let fight against sexual assault
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gottfer- that is not an excuse for him to rape her. Comments like yours are what caused her hell and eventually led to her suicide. Gross
Hands down, this series is one of the best ever produced by Broadly. All women portrait so far a courageous and strong, including Amanda Knox as a great interviewer.
I completely agree! These are some of the #metoo stories that slip through the cracks and they need way more light shed on them
@Autumn Blaylock Amanda Knox is a murderer
Indeed
Could not agree more
@@Kabullo76 Why do you think that? Why do you think she was released from jail? What evidence do you have?
She was 14. What more info do you need? If you'e 14, it's not sex. Why do we still need to debate whether laws apply?
Wasnt that illegal? How old was the guy?
@@oreocarlton3343 17
@@hannahlou3406 that is legal then isnt it or is the limit on 16? Are there proofs that she was raped or were the charges based on age difference
Oh yeah, like everybody waits until 18+. Give me a break.
"Missouri, like most states, takes the difference in age between the partners into account when determining whether statutory rape has actually occurred. It is legal for a person to have sex with someone who is under the age of consent so long as both parties are at least 14 years old and under 21 years old."
www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/missouri-age-of-consent-lawyers.html
I still think it was rape but it's not automatically considered statutory rape based on the age difference in the state.
I’m a man. 43. Women’s issues and their liberation has been important to my life since before I knew what the word feminism was. And these stories never cease to educate me as a man. This series by Knox is fantastic. Her interviewing is fantastic, and her dialogue with her subjects seems to come from the heart honestly. This video in particular was difficult to watch. You can see both women bonding through difficult experiences. I really hope one day that these kinds of stories become rare, instead of common as they are today.
you are a real man then, I am a girl and I protect weaker than me, children, elders, pets...I do not understand how the abuse of a weaker creature even crosses someone's mind...
hobbies and passions I agree and am the same way. That’s a great way to put it.
We need more allies like you. Thanks.
Thank you 😊 ❤ it means a lot. A los of women who don’t have strong role models need good men to stand up and respect and protect women. Over the past few hundred years, women may not have had the rights they had today, but Men were proud to provide for and protect women, open doors for them and stand up for them. Along with equality, I think some men have lost that part of their masculine identity.
So everyone knows what he did and he is responsible for Daisy’s death. Daisy’s bullies are responsible for her death.
@StickerLady do you think bullies should be held legally accountable when their victims commit suicide?
@@TheWchurchill4pm yes
@@TheWchurchill4pm Absolutely.
My school did the same exact thing. none of the kids who harassed me got in trouble for it and the boy who assaulted me got suspended for a week and that was it, even though the assault was technically on school grounds but not in school hours. I was told not to talk about what happened yet every where I went in school someone was saying something to me about it, I remember sitting alone in the bathroom because people would scream 'rape' and 'liar' at me when I went to get lunch. I reported my assault to the police and even though the assault kit came out positive, they told me it was 'my word against his' so they did nothing and he got away with it. So many more people need to be aware of this problem that girls and boys all over the world are dealing with.
Cami I am sorry you were treated so awful by the people that are supposed to protect you. This is hard to watch. I am making my daughter’s watch this. Thank you for sharing your story.
Ugh.
I hate it when police use their own bias not to do their job, did you hold onto the evidence and continue to keep pressing charges?
When situations like that happen that's when you have to invest into a lawyer, but I'm aware not everyone can afford one.
@@starcherry6814 I wanted to keep it going but I don't think my family wanted the 'drama' of it. We can't afford a lawyer sadly. I have reported it a few times again on an anonymous report but nothing has ever come of it. I'm not sure what to do at this point.
@@tatujohnny Thank you for reading my story. Awareness for this is good to spread at any age, I hope your daughter learns a lot from this and I hope you continue shedding light on the topic to your family. The world needs more people that are willing to open their eyes to the reality of assault (and the after affects).
@@winnietrose Hold on to any evidence that you have and all reports that you've made. When you feel like you're ready to try pressing charges again down the line you'll have what you need.
She was 14
Yes, we know that.
R. I. P baby girl, you deserved better.
Right . i just know it. Rip her. Let fight against sexual assault
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I want us to stop using the phrase "losing one's innocence" because it's the perpetrator who has really lost his or her innocence, legally speaking. The victim has committed no crime, so the victim remains innocent.
I interpreted the use of innocence a proxy for youth and protection from life's cruelty, rather than being free from blame. As in the trauma forced her to grow up and harden faster than she would have otherwise.
@@Li2k2007 I think you're correct in your interpretation, but the OP also has an interesting point in how language can affect our perception of the victims by, essentially, stripping them of their innocent child status. There's no doubt you're fundentally changed as a person by assault, but this new person isn't the person who was violated. The public empathizes better with that person. Unfair as fuck and twisted but it's true.
Yes!!
At the very least it’s a misnomer. But the words we use do matter.
Do you get what it means when says losing one’s innocence no the victim has not committed no crime but he’s not talking about losing their innocence amazing loss or childhood when you lose your virginity as you lose your innocence because somebody stole it from you that’s what I mean
Your name should be engraved in history books. You were a significant woman. You were great! You mattered a lot to millions of women around the world. Respect and love from a devastated woman from Australia
I got drunk with a woman and thought that it was consensual and still remember it being that way to this day but a week after she said on social media that she was sexually assaulted by me. I went from feeling ashamed to mad and then furious. Then about a year later someone showed me her facebook and I clearly saw how she changed and just didn't seem to have the glow I remembered her having. I reached out to her and asked if she would like to talk to me. In my surprise she replied with a long emotional message about how I ruined her life and that she has been wanting to die and how I destroyed everything for her. I just felt heartbroken. Even though I don't remember it going down that way at all I realised that it was beyond a debate and that someones life was very negatively effected by me and I guess I just cant live with that. I asked her what I could do and she responded after sometime asking me to take responsibility and so I did. I made a post on facebook and openly talked about the situation. Hearing about this young lady's death makes me feel so happy I did that. I now am at peace with myself. Idk who may read this but if you happen to be a guy who has experienced the same thing please reach out to the person. Show that your putting their feelings above yours.
Bingo. I am a mid 30's married man with 2 kids (1 daughter) and went to a big, part state school. I was lucky, I assume, because I was brought up in a somewhat strict christian household so I wasn't all about getting girls drunk and constantly trying to get laid (in mostly serious relationships) but most of my buddies were all about it and frankly I thought it was the ways things were. Being older and having kids of mine own now, we need to do a better job of educating our kids of the real dangers and emotional turmoil that inappropriate sexual experiences can have when your young. With adult material being so accessible now, having an in-depth, somewhat graphic conversation with young people needs to happen way before high school...
@@mattf82 Couldn't have said it better.
It takes a real man to analyze themself. I realize my assaulter did not know it wasn’t consensual as well. It really is normalized. So many movies where the guy gets the girl drunk and considered okay. I can name like 3 Seth Rogan movies. Anyways, you should be proud. I hope you let her know you didn’t know and you can forgive yourself
Thank you for being brave enough to share this and have the integrity to ask how you could help her. That would’ve helped her so much in her life. And perhaps she had her own reasons unrelated to you as to why she reacted so strongly….but the point was that you didn’t look for a way to blame her. You saw she was hurting and found a way to help if you could. ❤❤❤❤❤ I’m encouraged by this.
RIP Daisy 🌻
Daisy was 23 years old and took her life today.
So sad. I just know that. RIP her. Let fight against sexual assault
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and now her mom took her own life too.....:(
It breaks my heart to see that this beautiful soul left us, probably crying not wanting to die but feeling like this is the only choice for the pain to end. Our world is cruel and not fair.
She really was beautiful, inside and out. 😔
Rest In Peace, Daisy. 😭💔 I’m so sorry you went through this, rest easy.
RIP her. So sad. Let fight against sexual assault . This video is meaningful . Share it
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I lived in Maryville when this happened. I remember everything about it, when the case came to light I was in 4th grade. I didn’t even know what rape was. I personally didn’t really know Daisy but could easily recognize her last name and her because it was a small town. Barnett was my second grade teacher’s son. Another man involved was my best friends relative. Living in Maryville at this time was a really scary time, I remember articles being wrote about how horrible everything was here, getting bomb and gun threats at my elementary school, and having family members refuse to talk to us for even living there. The ENTIRE town wasn’t aware of this happening much like people say but there was definitely some covering up and hush hush, as that was how many issues were handled there. Maryville isn’t always the most welcoming for new people, to say the least, if you aren’t born there you’re an outsider and have a harder time but most people are fairly nice. This entire case as I got older was really crazy to watch transpire and really sad to see people I knew involved in it; even if they were on the wrong side of it. My heart goes out to Daisy though, as I personally know how harsh those kids and adults that live there are.
I really dont have the clue for why people would have to be bully about a rape?!?.... thats senseless
Thelma Beans rapists allies and friends will bully victims over “false allegation” claims, sadly. Especially in cases where the charges are dropped or never filed.
As I man, I’m horrified by the ignorance that young men now have towards the concept of consent.
Many young men in addition have a strong sense of entitlement when it comes to sex.
So many men are emotionally immature that women are at risk and they should not have to feel that way.
We don’t spend enough time educating boys and girls about sexual consent. As a result we have so many victims of rape, sexual assault and far too many ruined lives.
I agree. Yes, we can joke about a situation such as death as an irony. However, the problem is that for many of the sexual jokes boys make, they joke to trigger their own pride, like sexually assaulting is something to be proud of.
Whatever the cause, they are taking it took lightly.
Everyone needs to watch the documentary on this case. The Sheriff literally said that rape victims are liars and attention-seekers and laughed when presented with evidence of the assault.
“No alcohol and restitution costs” he was a 19 year old from a well off family.. those things would literally not effect him in the slightest
Abigail Robertson yeah but I don’t think he ever paid restitution. And he never apologized.
This series is so great! Thank you Amanda for these interviews. Im very sorry for what happened to you and these women. This is the start if the change.
Broadly, you NEED to keep these coming please.
Thank you to Amanda and everyone involved, more please!
rip. She was a warrior. Yes she lost the battle but that’s what happens to a courageous warrior.
Hmm. Saw the news of her suicide, and this is the first time hearing about her. Sounds like the verbal abuse was way worse than the actual assault. I think this is big reason why rape victims are hesitant to speak out immediately.
Me too. So sad. I just watched this video. It is so useful about her death. Let share it
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After hearing of her suicide today I googled her name and watched this I’m so sad for her. MAY she rest in peace now
Rest In Peace beautiful ❤️
“You’re smiling about it” 4:55
Little did we all know how much pain that smile was hiding. She deserved better.
Yes, it is so painful. Let fight against sexual assault
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Thank you for giving my 11, 12 and 13 year old self a voice. I wasn't raped, but molested by my best friend at the time's father. I've long said privately that the court process and bullying was more traumatic than the two instances he molested me. Thank you for speaking out on this.
Amanda Knox is a really great interviewer ❤ Loved this so much
Kristen also a murderer, but whatevs
I loved this honest and raw interview. Thank you so much for this series. I’m finding it so healing.
This woman is courageous beyond belief and she is so intelligent and creatively gifted. I think when this happened it allowed her to touch into that part of herself that might have otherwise been buried. You rock Daisy!
Right , so sad to hear about her death . you know. Let fight against sexual assault
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Amanda, it is so good to see you working and helping others tell their stories. Broadly, amazing work as always. I love your channel and content.
So sad that this beautiful girl who suffered at the hands of her attackers & later a group of corrupt people, is now gone. RIP Daisy Coleman. I hope you find the peace you were unable to achieve in this life.
RIP her. I just knew sad news through this
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This series is so good. Thank you for making it.
FYI Amanda Knox, when a person is sexually assaulted they don’t “lose their innocence.”
I say that because that’s a toxic language to use when it comes to the topic of sexual assault, because then survivors feel like people don’t believe them because “they’ve lost their innocence.”
Now I understand your intentions but a better phrase would be matured or grown from the incident.
The only person that ever truly lost their innocence was the assaulter.
I can see how people can take "losing your innocence" the wrong way, as if you're guilty. I always took it as I'll never be the same. A part of me was taken away that I'll never have again, and I have to build a new self around that. That's how I always felt about it. Do you have some ideas for a better term?
@@cottoncandy113 Yeah I felt that way too at a point in time, it really wasn't good for my recovery from the trauma because I lost my sense of hope that I'd ever have a normal life again.
That's why I said that she shouldn't word it like that because it's really discouraging to survivors.
But phrases that help leave me with a sense of hope are:
I've grown from the incident, as a person.
Rebuilt myself.
Recovered.
I think that it's hard for people that haven't been assaulted to understand that sexual assault is not like a robbery, it's an attack. Nothing was taken from us but what really happened was that we were hurt. Physically and emotionally. However we're each strong complex human beings and we can recover from that trauma. There is hope.
As someone who has dealt with sexual assault I appreciate this comment, HOWEVER, I do think that there is validity in Amanda's statement because when you're assaulted it can really feel as though your innocence was taken.
Daisy lost her innocence, because she was 14 years old.
I agree, well said.
Incredibly powerful series. Please keep them coming! These women and their courageous stories deserve to be heard.
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Daisy Coleman killed herself for sexual assault.
The way this whole story ended is so tragic. Not to mention all the things that happened that brought Daisy and her mom to the point of such a permanent solution. I feel so bad for kids today. When I was in high school, early 90s, there was no social media. Bullying happened, absolutely, I experienced it but it wasn't like within a matter of an hour, everyone at school knew about your mistakes. 2012, when I believe this assault (and yes, it was an assault) happened, the whole school knew about it within a day. And being at age 14, the kids at school ate your life. What people think about you really matters. You think that your whole life is ruined (when really it's only just beginning). That's a normal feeling for teenagers to have, my life is over. These kids nowadays, I truly empathize with what they go through.
Daisy, May you RIP with your brother who you missed and loved so much! I’m so sorry that this cruel world let you down & this monster got away without ever paying the price. To bully someone at all is disgusting but to bully someone over a rape is so cowardly. I hope each and every one of those people are proud of themselves. To Daisy’s family, I can’t begin to imagine your pain or your loss. My heart truly breaks for you. Daisy was a very strong lady and she truly gave back to those in need. She made more of a mark in her short 23 years than most do in a lifetime.❤️🙏
Hypocrites in the comments literally doing exactly what this video is trying to highlight as so wrong.
We live in a world of zombies.
AMAZING journalism. Amazing series. Stories that leave me at a loss of words with all the injustice. Please more, Amanda. Much respect.
I’m so proud of Amanda. This series is wonderful, and Daisy turned into an absolute badass despite all the trauma she’s been through.
RIP DAISY! YOU WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN
Daisy I never met you, and our paths may have never crossed but I feel the need to say you were strong when sharing, and by speaking up in a way you were giving back to the world, a true activist. This is my way of saying thank you. I hope you feel peace.
she just kill herself you now. so sad. I just know that by watching this
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I really hope that Broadly takes this series and gives Amanda a half hour or even an hour format. I've watched every episode of this series in a single evening, and I have to say: Amanda is a skillful, empathetic interviewer. This content stands head and shoulders above so many of Broadly's other series, and I'm SO thankful that there's at least a corner of the internet where these embattled women get to share their stories and bond.
I love that Amanda pointed out Daisy can smile about it. People have a preconception about how survivors should react to their own trauma. That message just traumatizes them further by taking away more of their agency.
This broke my heart when it happened because those boys received A SLAP ON THE WRIST and assault is a lifetime experience but at the time... I'm from Missouri too & all the horrible stories out of our state has become heartbreaking.
She was such a beautiful girl too. What a shame she took her own life. Absolutely Heartbreaking. People are so cruel.. RIP daisy ♥️
RIP daisy. I’m heartbroken, disgusted, and so angry. She’s in a better place. Sending love and guidance to her family and friends
Well she is not! Comitting suicide is ticket to hell
@@hennacandles8356 Stfu, your "god" did nothing to alleviate her misery. Guess what, he doesn't exist. Daisy was a brave person and her memory will be honoured.
Daisy, I am so sorry that you lost your faith in humanity. I am sending you all the support and love from Turkey. Amanda thank you for sharing these stories, they empower women!
I was a literal infant when my father started raping me and my family still found a way to blame me for it. I feel her pain.
i Hope you'll have the strenght and the means to leave them as soon as possible. they are disgusting beings
I hope you have help to overcome this horror.
Uou are still here though and that is enormous.
Sending you lots of love and hugs ❤ 😢
Thank you for the Scarlet Letter series Vice!
I love the laugh between them... it's a sign of growth! I love love love this series!!! DON'T STOP MAKING THESE!!! I'M a survivor, so it's my best friend, and my 2 sisters and my mom and my brother and my ex husband! This is important!!!!
I feel so sick over death and I’m beyond heartbroken for this beautiful young woman and her family.
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It's tragic the chain of events that began with her father's accident; forever changed her and her family's life.
I’m loving these Scarlet Letter Reports. Amanda is perfect for these topics.
Amanda Knox is a murderer, only muricans trust in her innocence
Who’s here after she died 😖
Read the comments, then you’ll see. Idiot.
Ted Damn you sound bitter.😂😂Aww it’s okay I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings.
I was so inspired by Daisy in this piece. At the end I thought, this woman is amazing, I can’t wait to see what she does in her life. I googled her to get an update, only to find that she died from suicide when she was just 23. An incredible loss for the world and what she could have brought to it. Then I read that her mother died from suicide shortly after. I feel so much empathy for what this family went through and hope they have some peace now.
If anyone is in a situation or knowing someone in the future (i hope not): Please go to the police ASAP and emergency room to get assessed by a SART nurse. Physical evidence is needed. The invisible bruises can still be seen under blue light after 30 days I believe. Even if you think it is too late, still report it! Your report can help someone else for support their case! And if it occured prior to age 18, you have 10 years to report! After age 18, you have 2 years to report according to the statute of limitations.
I did just that and they let my rape kit sit for so long... my Mom called multiple times for me .An officer only met with me twice about my case and I pointed the guy out in a photo of a bunch of guys that the officer showed me. He told me I had a good case and that the guy had a victim before me and his DNA was found on me, but then nothing. I get a call right after two years saying well it's now over two years sorry nothing can be done, but you can get therapy if you want it....what's the point.
Chelsea M ya the rule is 2 years. Unless it happened when you were under 18. BUT you may still have a case that because of the delay that it may be an exception.
Always get legal advice. A lawyer has higher knowledge than a police officer. Sometimes at the university there may be student lawyers or volunteer lawyers available to help.
And I am so sorry you went through that. I lost some friends because of it . They thought it was a lie or over exaggeration because who would share that with few friends. Apparently we are suppose to keep it to ourselves. The friend I was with that night manipulated truth due her guilt and lack of accountability . I get regular flashbacks of it.
I'm amazed and proud she spoke about her trauma. She seemed amazing. I'm sorry this happened 💔
Just saw this on the news looked her up 😰😪 .. rest peacefully beautiful
I just knew it by watching this video. I feel so sad
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To be so young and go through what she had to go through...unbelievable! She is a brave woman, I wish her well.
Thank you for sharing!!
RIP Daisy and RIP Meridith Kercher too.
Why is that murderer hosting this?! What in the world is this
Amanda Knox is such a fantastic interviewer!
Thank you for this series. It helps 🙏🏼❤
Both of you break my heart. My niece is 14 cheerleader who’s father passed away a year ago. I am also her coach. The girls that I coach I worry about so much. I have tried to teach them things that makes sense and unfortunately it’s hard for young girls to understand that the boys they hang out with that the boys they think are there friends are most likely the ones that are going to hurt you.
I coached my daughters soccer team for years. And those girls i also worry about as much as my own , now seeing them all around 16 i at every chance i get to remind them about being safe and in control of everything. They all know that no matter what time of day or night no matter the circumstances they can call me and I'll be there, no questions most of these girls come from super Catholic familys and are from broken families I've answered a few calls and my wife or i have gone and picked them up talked to them and their parents. Not trying to be superman but some of these parents and their kids are so naive, its crazy they think the church and prayer are the way. I'm not religious i dont pass judgement, but come people raise your kids they have to know not everyone is a good person. Be safe play fair and standup for yourself EVERYBODY.
The worst part of trauma is when people don't believe what happened to you and having to relive it over again. This case is so unfair and shame on the kids who bullied her. Just because someone talks about what happened to them doesn't mean they want attention their trying to process it and bring awareness and goodness to what happened to them. Its their way of healing and its no ones business to be judging it . RIP ;
This is why most rapes go unreported. They blame the victim.
You by definition that is made up fact by definition
There is no evidence she is raped right ? For all we know she is lying.
I'm so incredibly sad to be learning of Daisy only now.. her story.. her semi column impacted life.. and then her ultimate full stop. To then learn that not only did she lose her Dad, her little brother.. but that her Mum is now with them all too.. is almost too hard to comprehend. My deepest respects to the two remaining brothers of this once beautiful Family.. may they both go on to create families of their own.. that their loved ones would be so proud of. This is a story that will continue to impact.. and create positive change. I'm just so deeply saddened that it came at such an irreplaceable cost 😔
Rest in Peace Daisy and too the many warriors out there fighting for justice.
Bless Daisy and her mum 😢❤️ they were strong women
Sad to hear about this story.... May her soul rest in peace
**Rest in peace beautiful one I just heard you took your own life**
**I weep**😞😥😢
RIP her. So sad to hear about it. Fight against sexual assualt
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And now her mom is gone too. So is her father and brother. An entire family just gone....erased. Just sad
I love this series with Amanda. Please keep making them.
Holy shit I know exactly what this girl went through. I am so sorry.
Rest In Peace angel 😢
RIP angel. So sad . Let share it to fight against sexual assault
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So sad.
Shame on every POS involved in the demise of this poor family.
No Alcohol for a 19 year old USAmerican? Good judgement, very justice. Glad to have a slightly less awful surrounding culture.
fiona fiona seriously how would that effect him 🤦🏻♀️
Stay strong Daisy. Best regards from Brasil
Rest in heaven beautiful girl , I hope you feel better in another place
please more episodes!
Amanda knox, and for all the women who were assaulted, i salute your bravery. Well, haters go to hell. Dont mind other people say negative things to you. Anyways, i salute all you brave women!
Still so many people think she did it... sad
Expecially we Italians don’t like her too much ...
What a monster he was to rape a child, and how cruel of the charges being dropped though the hospital records prove she was raped. Talk about misogyny being hoisted on a child. System has blood on its hands: she's now dead.
It's good to see Amanda thriving in her new career. It's also great to know that the ECHR judgement went massively in her favour with one of the rulings totally nullifying the case against her as follows:
"The Court took the view that the Italian Government had not succeeded in showing that the restriction of Ms Knox’s access to a lawyer, at the police interview of 6 November 2007 at 5.45 a.m. - when there was a criminal charge against her - had not irreparably undermined the fairness of the proceedings as a whole."
So now there is no excuse to persecute Amanda any further. If anyone does so it can only be through personal malice and spite.
So heartbreaking that she is gone now.
Daisy I feel for you!! You deserve only love and kisses and hugs…I wish you all the best for your life … you are beautiful smart and deserve the best.
Rest in Peace, beautiful Daisy.
No more thinking.
No more trying.
No more pain.
RIP Daisy. So sad to know you dead . I just knew it when look this
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it's so horrible that this kind of stuff still happens... she was 14 that is so fucked up
Thanks Amanda
I LOVE AMANDA!! THANK YOU FOR MAKING OUR HOME LEGENDARY!! PNW GAL!
As a man who had just learnt of this and other cases like this, I’m lost for words and saddened that this is happening… this is not the world we should all be living in.
Rip beautiful Angel. Rest in power!
I hope you have peace now Daisy. We believe you.... 🕊️
Daisy was such a great person. From what I've learned about her. In her death the world lost such a precious jewel. RIP angel.
Rip baby girl so sad 😭
Miss you Daisy! Always enjoyed our Instagram chats ❤
Almost identical to what happened to me at 15, first date with the son of a prominent lawyer who kept spiking my coke. I knew nothing about hard liquor and went unconscious until dropped in my snowy yard late on the night before Christmas Eve. I knew I wouldn’t get anywhere reporting it. Date rape. That is rape. This guy was no child. Why didn’t he get charged with the crime he obviously committed? Her reputation was ruined, self respect shot, social life destroyed when she’d barely begun to step out. Like axing into a young tree, you live but deformed. You can’t get back to who you were or grow into who you should’ve been, the pain and damage and stigma change everything. It’s no more acceptable to undress and rape a woman unconscious from alcohol than from a bad fall, car accident or epileptic fit. What kind of boys are we raising? And what kind of parents and judge and town blame and punish her instead of him? Hounding her to her death? Mine happened 50 YEARS AGO and still haunts me. I went into a depression and would’ve slit my wrists except I was such a Catholic schoolgirl I was sure I’d go to real Hell and maybe the earth hell would end. It never did. But I was fortunate to get help, and whispers and gossip doesn’t last as long as texts and emails. Acknowledgement of the wrong done me would have somewhat relieved it for me and for her and the legions of defiled girls who rightly fear to speak up. That this could happen TODAY makes me sick. We need to do way better now for our daughters.