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  • Опубліковано 11 лис 2022
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    SOURCES:
    Game Informer - I Talked To The Quiet Man Developers And I’m Still Confused
    www.gameinformer.com/gamescom...
    Square Enix UK via UA-cam - Who is THE QUIET MAN?
    • Who is THE QUIET MAN?
    Wikipedia - The Quiet Man
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Qui...)
    MobyGames - Kensei Fujinaga
    www.mobygames.com/developer/s...
    MobyGames - Human Head Studios, Inc.
    www.mobygames.com/company/hum...
    MUSIC:
    Timesplitters - Multiplayer (Streets)
    No More Heroes - Oxygen Graffiti
    Metropolismania 2 - BGM 6
    God Hand - Bald Mountain
    Bombastic - File Select
    CrossCode - Boss Rush
    Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutants in Manhattan - Title (Menu)
    Trauma Center - Second Opinion
    Airblade - Jump Higher
    #whathappened #mattmcmuscles #thequietman

КОМЕНТАРІ • 697

  • @owenbaker2.084
    @owenbaker2.084 Рік тому +1355

    Telltale Games definitely deserves a What Happened episode tbh

    • @Harukurochan
      @Harukurochan Рік тому +77

      Super Bunnyhop made a good video about Telltale’s downfall around the time it happened, but I wouldn’t mind Matt taking a crack at the company or specific projects too.

    • @Nic5Cyprus
      @Nic5Cyprus Рік тому +25

      Telltale died and got reborn and because of that most of their games got delisted

    • @WH250398
      @WH250398 Рік тому +27

      Glad they got to finish The Walking Dead. I actually really enjoyed the final season.

    • @ToonBoom788
      @ToonBoom788 Рік тому +1

      I believe Joshscorcher said everything about the rise and fall of that company

    • @juzoinui4627
      @juzoinui4627 Рік тому +1

      What’s Tellltale

  • @user-je8gh7et6v
    @user-je8gh7et6v Рік тому +181

    "I'm gonna get you Quiet man! You can run, but you can't hear!"

    • @KoopaKrump
      @KoopaKrump Рік тому +22

      "All you had to do was keep your mouth open and ears closed Quiet Man!"

    • @Dingleburry37
      @Dingleburry37 Рік тому +4

      Good nl reference

  • @fakeusers2
    @fakeusers2 Рік тому +152

    I watched this video twice, once with the sound off to get the full experience.

  • @nicklafleur7620
    @nicklafleur7620 Рік тому +280

    For some reason, UA-cam wasn't playing audio on this video when I clicked on it, and I legitimately spent about 2 minutes wondering if Matt was doing a bit

    • @JM-dq7xn
      @JM-dq7xn Рік тому +44

      Such a missed opportunity lol

  • @keeperftw
    @keeperftw Рік тому +372

    Something hilarious about this game that wasn't talked about as much as it should back when it was released was the bit about the graffiti. Because a lot of the enemies are Latino gang members, plenty of locations in the game have Spanish graffiti on them to represent that the place is part of that gang's territory.
    Problem is, while the graffiti are written in (mostly) grammatically correct Spanish, every single one of them is either a non sequitur (e.g. "ME DA GRIMA" which means something along the lines of "It creeps me out") or EXTREMELY outdated slang, like from the 60s or even earlier (e.g. "TE CONOZCO, BACALAO AUNQUE VAYAS DISFRASAO" which is a way of saying that you're onto someone else's intentions).
    Like, imagine a GTA San Andreas-like game set in present day where the different American gangs pepper the streets with graffiti that says things like "EEK! YUCKY!" or "I DIG THE WACKY TOBACKY!" Same energy.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 Рік тому +31

      I would probably enjoy a game of Grand Theft Engrish tbh. 😂

    • @Cincy32
      @Cincy32 Рік тому +10

      That actually sounds appealing, ngl

    • @rsotuyo15
      @rsotuyo15 Рік тому

      Me acuerdo que lo de te conozco bacalao de volvió un copypasta

    • @RobVee.
      @RobVee. Рік тому +1

      interesting; thanks for this

    • @swaggerdagger8976
      @swaggerdagger8976 Рік тому +15

      all things considered, "eek yucky" and "i dig the wacky tobacky" sounds like stuff you'd see in Manhunt levels

  • @Waffle519
    @Waffle519 Рік тому +487

    The best part about the Answered DLC was that the common sentiment I saw claimed that the story as laid out in Answered was FAR WORSE than the story people had interpreted from the original

    • @universalperson
      @universalperson Рік тому +106

      It's so horrible.
      It's like some sort of childish thriller written by aliens that barely grasp humanity, or at least how to write a story.

    • @nguyenquyetthang1326
      @nguyenquyetthang1326 Рік тому +85

      @@universalperson even worse is thay somehow it is written by Man of Action, the creators of shows with strong writing like Ben 10 and Generator Rex

    • @Krozbot
      @Krozbot Рік тому +31

      @@nguyenquyetthang1326 how'd they even screw it up that badly, they're way too talented for this shit

    • @auqustfire
      @auqustfire Рік тому +74

      @@Krozbot he mentioned that a lot of stuff got cut, so that's probably part of the reason.

    • @Julford
      @Julford Рік тому +116

      Not only is the Answered story worse, but they obviously framed things to deceive players during their first playthrough. When a story asks you to engage and interpret what's happening, you can't show a scene of a cop talking to boy who just watched his mother die and then reveal that the audio is actually the child being berated by his cop father! Those are just shitty "gotcha" moments and actively insult the player for daring to have any level of involvement in the first place.

  • @Explodington
    @Explodington Рік тому +125

    It's wild how badly they dropped the ball on the game's basic premise. We don't need words to be able communicate and understand each other but you can't just cut out words and replace them with nothing. And they only did that to the player. The main character could understand so much more and they just cut the player out of that.
    Such an interesting idea and they didn't even handle it badly. They just didn't handle it at all.

  • @limabarreto911
    @limabarreto911 Рік тому +515

    It's so weird to me how the game is clearly a personal concept near and dear to the creator's heart... and then he just farmed every aspect to different companies.

    • @nonamepasserbya6658
      @nonamepasserbya6658 Рік тому +87

      Budget problems, Im betting Square gave him barely shoestrings

    • @bransonallen2925
      @bransonallen2925 Рік тому +17

      I doubt Square alone gave him the resources to do much with it.

    • @arran4285
      @arran4285 Рік тому +8

      @@bransonallen2925 Or even care about it because it not Final Fantasy

    • @ComicCrossing
      @ComicCrossing Рік тому +20

      lol what else was he supposed to do? Develop the entire thing himself? Including shooting a film? Square wouldnt let him use one of their internal studios. He HAD to "farm" it out. The one thing I am interested about him getting someone else to do was the story. But it seems more like he was interested in the idea and concept, not necessarily the story. That wasnt the point. It was about telling a story in a unique way. Not that he had some grand story hed been cooking for years for that concept.

    • @ausgod538
      @ausgod538 Рік тому +1

      @@ComicCrossing Most square games are done externally including some of their best games like octopath traveler, bravely default and other. This isn't a good excuse

  • @alexanderdiogenes8067
    @alexanderdiogenes8067 Рік тому +257

    The John Wayne The Quiet Man has one of the best cross-town fist fights ever. It ends in front of the pub, and they go inside to have a drink. Their fight is picked up again when they start arguing over who gets to pay the tab.

    • @2ndbleak
      @2ndbleak Рік тому +11

      So that’s where Family Guy got it from

    • @ggrarl
      @ggrarl Рік тому +11

      "Sit down, that's what chairs are for!"

    • @matt-dr4fk
      @matt-dr4fk Рік тому +4

      That movie was honestly pretty fun

    • @redfive5856
      @redfive5856 Рік тому +2

      Best fist fight in film history.

  • @WeCanCos
    @WeCanCos Рік тому +870

    Something they could have tried was a sign language mode where it forced you to learn basic sign to parse out some form of direction. Like some minimalist prompts to direct the player. The concept was really strong and may work in a different project.

    • @Guywithaclub
      @Guywithaclub Рік тому +8

      They could make it for the xbox kinect

    • @thecryingsoul
      @thecryingsoul Рік тому +35

      @@Guywithaclub it maaay be a little late for that

    • @someguy9070
      @someguy9070 Рік тому +6

      I’d play that. That sounds so interesting there’s a lot of potential there.

    • @rexzs794
      @rexzs794 Рік тому +60

      Just imagine… consulting actual deaf people on a game about a deaf person… Wild!

    • @someguy9070
      @someguy9070 Рік тому +3

      @@rexzs794 ikr lol

  • @genericname2747
    @genericname2747 Рік тому +132

    I just want to know how you can have the audacity to market a game on the fact it has a deaf protagonist, and then make it so that you need to be able to hear to understand the story.

    • @gothnerd887
      @gothnerd887 5 місяців тому +1

      I think that was the point, to make the player understand what it's like to be deaf

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 5 місяців тому

      @@gothnerd887 Having to play the game with sound defeats that purpose

  • @ooktar
    @ooktar Рік тому +254

    Babylon's Fall definitely seems worthy of a What Happened at this point.

    • @JeffersonRedeyes
      @JeffersonRedeyes Рік тому +36

      I think it will come after the game finally shuts down in 2023.

    • @cthulhu888
      @cthulhu888 Рік тому +21

      Platinum games and probably squenix in general could go for a whole whappun too 😆

    • @neliaironwood7573
      @neliaironwood7573 Рік тому +5

      I'd like for him to rip apart that State of Play trailer, the part where it shows the player guy using the Gideon Coffin on Zenon's sword, which you _can't_ do in the actual game because that scene (which requires two QTEs BTW) was actually scripted. And I can tell you none of the bosses in the game have any mechanics where that scene could actually work.

    • @bearerofbadnews1375
      @bearerofbadnews1375 Рік тому +12

      Bayonetta 3 is also a potential wha happun. This has honestly been Platinum games darkest year in terms of quality whether it be everything in Babylons fall or the writing of Bayonetta 3.

    • @bearerofbadnews1375
      @bearerofbadnews1375 Рік тому +3

      @@neliaironwood7573 That Zenon qte aside the gameplay in the state of play was more of a traditional platinum game. Then E3 someone or they themselves scrapped everything from that trailer and made the gameplay worse in every way possible. Also throwing in FF 14 armor assets, because lazy.

  • @danshive4017
    @danshive4017 Рік тому +511

    He was too quiet, so no one knew it came out.

    • @bruceluiz
      @bruceluiz Рік тому

      Ah, he did a Cum&Go! What a fantastic stealth release...

    • @artry93
      @artry93 Рік тому +8

      Dan Shive. Touché. Big Ooof to this game's unknown existence.

    • @bernardoheusi6146
      @bernardoheusi6146 Рік тому +7

      He farted you know

    • @artry93
      @artry93 Рік тому +3

      @Bernardo Heusi. I can buy that.

  • @Allthistomfoolery
    @Allthistomfoolery Рік тому +621

    I genuinely wanted to know how this game was so comically bad

    • @bearerofbadnews1375
      @bearerofbadnews1375 Рік тому +118

      Put it this way it’s better to have the cutscenes on mute and make up your own dialogue and story in a abridged series way. It’s more fun doing that way.

    • @claudiobizama5603
      @claudiobizama5603 Рік тому +36

      @@bearerofbadnews1375 10 times better if it's with friends while drinking

    • @JeffersonRedeyes
      @JeffersonRedeyes Рік тому +66

      @@bearerofbadnews1375 The speedrunners agree. Every one of them likes the story they made up better than the actual story they experience on their 2nd run.

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby Рік тому +3

      same, it has to be a hell of a story.

    • @artry93
      @artry93 Рік тому +2

      @Bearer of Bad news 13 Agree and just like Matt mentioned in this video. There's some games (including indie ones) that have already used this concept without verbal but just the visual to create a new plot.

  • @jesuisunstroopwafel
    @jesuisunstroopwafel Рік тому +190

    It's probably a hot take, but an adventure game where you play a deaf-mute person could actually be an interesting experience, if made and written well.
    A big problem with the game is that the story doesn't go well with the deaf-mute experience. It's too abstract and confusing, even with the audio on.

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 Рік тому +14

      I mean, I think that's what people wanted from this game. A fun story where you're deaf and mute.

    • @Dustemikkel_Rev
      @Dustemikkel_Rev Рік тому +25

      I'll not only agree, I'll go a step further and say that The Quiet Man is a brilliant consept. The execution however is not only bad, but downright insulting to the deaf and hard of hearing.

    • @artur6912
      @artur6912 Рік тому +20

      Well, yeah. The main problem here is that being deaf is just a narrative gimmick and is in no way used as an actual gameplay mechanic.

    • @nathanhall9345
      @nathanhall9345 Рік тому +40

      This is what frustrates me. Imagine a game where the portion of the screen behind the player character is faded out, to emulate not being able to track the environment when you can't see it. Imagine subtitles only appearing when the character is looking at who's speaking (maybe even during gameplay, so managing attention could be a gameplay component).
      So many interesting ways to communicate the experience.

    • @rexzs794
      @rexzs794 Рік тому +16

      The way that deaf-mute people communicate is interesting- a lot interface with an app these days that speaks for them. That… is a gameplay loop right there.

  • @lmno567
    @lmno567 Рік тому +48

    Quite the hard lesson here: just because you have a unique idea doesn't mean it is a good one and a good idea is nothing without good execution.

  • @CrazyRoundMan
    @CrazyRoundMan Рік тому +27

    I cannot stress hard enough how entertaining a movie The Quiet Man (1952) is. It holds up well and even occasionally has one of those 'classics' theater runs - as it did prior to St. Patrick's Day this year.

  • @Pinka13
    @Pinka13 Рік тому +63

    I still can't get over the fact that they named the singing character "La La"

    • @Julford
      @Julford Рік тому +18

      It's even more idiotic than that! The game has a number of references to Mobile Suit Gundam sprinkled throughout (for example the license plate on the car reads UC0079, the year that show takes place), and Lalah is potentially the most direct one.
      In The Quiet Man, Lalah is someone the main character seems interested in, both romantically and also because she looks like his departed mother. In MSG Lalah is both the lover of a man named Char, rival of the main character Amuro, whom she also has an intense relationship with. Lalah dies tragically during combat between the two, with Char infamously saying that Lalah "could've been a mother to me".

    • @jeanvictor8178
      @jeanvictor8178 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Julfordi assume you are a big fan of gundan

  • @ClarkKentai
    @ClarkKentai Рік тому +44

    The Thief reboot apparently had a pretty rough time getting out the door, starting as a fully-third-person Assassin's Creed-like game.

  • @BugsSplatter
    @BugsSplatter Рік тому +21

    I feel like the Quiet mans idea could of worked if they worked more on how the game would work with a deaf protagonist rather than just muting the audio. Like, imagine the main character having the ablity to read lips which would form subtitles on the screen, but they could possibly be incorrect or a character talking to the player then suddenly looking away while talking, leaving the player to figure out the context later. Possibly leading to weird puzzles? Maybe have something relating to sign language as a game mechanic? Anything?
    There is definitely a lot more that you could play with here but the devs clearly bit off more than they could chew.

  • @Serbian_Potato
    @Serbian_Potato Рік тому +29

    Favorite quote from Northernlion while playing this game "You can run, BUT YOU CAN'T HEAR" I died

    • @Cincy32
      @Cincy32 Рік тому

      Dude's Let's Play of this game was 100% trash.

  • @nekovanguard9553
    @nekovanguard9553 Рік тому +225

    We live in a timeline where this is a game you can buy and play but not the 3rd entry of Adam Jensen's Deus Ex nor Sleeping Dogs 2. Bravo squenix.

    • @LateNightPerson
      @LateNightPerson Рік тому +57

      And Marvel's Avengers, lets not forget that pile of crap exists

    • @Juanguar
      @Juanguar Рік тому +50

      And let’s not forget the recently announced nft bullshit

    • @moister3727
      @moister3727 Рік тому +29

      And how square is milking ff7 to death

    • @TheEmperorHyperion
      @TheEmperorHyperion Рік тому +29

      @@moister3727 at least FFVII and its remake are good... unlike that mobile trash and that EBT Fortnite they shoveled out like they did Banal Blunderworld and Babylon's Fall.

    • @theLikou1
      @theLikou1 Рік тому +4

      Yeah, because they have the exact same scope, budget and team, right?

  • @Eidlones
    @Eidlones Рік тому +12

    It was such a huge ask to say "Watch this 5min long scene of 2 people talking in a room without audio and be interested in what they might be saying"

  • @sterling7
    @sterling7 Рік тому +24

    With a movie, you can passively watch something for two to three hours and go, "Well, that was weird." With a video game, even a short one, you have to actively participate in order to move things forward. When a lot of what a game has to offer the player to reward them for their pushing forward is *information* - and then that information, that clarification, that denouement- is actively denied, it's perfectly understandable that many players would start to resent it. Asking them to occupy the shoes of a character they were never offered enough to identify with, *twice* , on the *same journey* , how can that resentment not increase?

    • @JackedThor-so
      @JackedThor-so Рік тому +5

      Well put. Pathologic is a game that I would never play and, outside of video essays breaking it down, but it at least GIVES you something to work with. It has combat that can be grasped, it has health bars, it has story, it has themes and characters. The Quiet Man, the way its made, denies all of that and expects you to clap.

  • @bigdickieqthelizardliquidator
    @bigdickieqthelizardliquidator Рік тому +26

    One of my closest friends actually knew the leading man of this game! She does modeling as a career and knew him as another model she met in the job.
    I remember talking to her about the game cause of the recent Square Enix show at the time, and I had mentioned that it was probably the worst thing they showed and like, everyone online was just going "what...?" Or "this looks like shit..." about it.
    When she told me that she knew the lead himself we both just shared a moment like "Oh... well, hope it goes well, then, I guess!!"
    It did not.

  • @googamp32
    @googamp32 Рік тому +371

    Am I the only one who now wants Matt to do a whole episode about the movie that shares this game's name?

    • @deanscordilis7280
      @deanscordilis7280 Рік тому +64

      The longer the bit went, the more excited I got ngl

    • @JeffersonRedeyes
      @JeffersonRedeyes Рік тому +37

      The John Wayne romantic comedy from the 50's isn't that interesting by today's standards. The comedy revolves around obscure old Irish wedding traditions that my Irish friends don't even know about. It was fairly successful when it came out.

    • @Matt-tx5cb
      @Matt-tx5cb Рік тому +40

      Fantastic movie, with an ending fight scene that is much more entertaining than anything found in this game.

    • @nickblomgren
      @nickblomgren Рік тому

      Do a video about the film *YOU COWARD*
      I don't know why I got mean there.
      Apologies it's been a rough day, but *DO A VIDEO ABOUT THE QUIET MAN MOVIE YOU COWARD*
      omg, I did it again, sorry. It's like a really bad sneeze. Unprofessional and antagonizing but really--
      *DO A VIDEO ABOUT THE 1952 MOVIE STARRING JOHN WAYNE YOU COWARD*
      Holy crap, sorry again.
      Reasonably I should have stopped writing this comment a few sentences back. This is all on me, apologies again.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 Рік тому +4

      ​@@JeffersonRedeyes It's not the movie's story itself that people are interested in, it's seeing John Wayne show a softer side by starring in a lovey-dovey movie where he doesn't punch and shoot everything that moves until everything stops moving. 😂

  • @natekiellach2940
    @natekiellach2940 Рік тому +114

    Oh I’ve been WAITING for this one. Watching a couple of my favorite streamers making up their own dialogue and narrative while playing this game is one of the funniest experiences watching a game being played I’ve ever had

    • @perrisavallon5170
      @perrisavallon5170 Рік тому +6

      Which streamers?

    • @JeffersonRedeyes
      @JeffersonRedeyes Рік тому +4

      if you know people who play let them know there is a speedrun and it's not even a hard one to medal in.

    • @Julford
      @Julford Рік тому +1

      @@perrisavallon5170 Personally I really enjoyed TieTuesday's playthroughs of this game, he uploaded both VODs (original and Answered playthrough) to his youtube channel

    • @miscinsanity
      @miscinsanity Рік тому +1

      @@Julford matt and liam's own playthrough of this game (on liam's channel) is definitely worth a watch too

  • @UltraPaperGamer
    @UltraPaperGamer Рік тому +21

    Wouldnt the story work better if the game was about a mute man? The quiet man means he cant talk, but in the game is about a man that cant hear.

  • @buttertool6211
    @buttertool6211 Рік тому +20

    ah the quiet man, the reason why student art projects are sometimes not great ideas for games

  • @Mattfromthepast
    @Mattfromthepast Рік тому +59

    Thank you for making that joke right off the bat.
    I swear my first reaction when reading about this game back in the day was "Why is Square making a movie based off of a classic John Wayne film?", then I read what the game was about.

  • @ratchetxtreme6591
    @ratchetxtreme6591 Рік тому +79

    This was certainly one of the more fascinating failures of the wha happun variety.

  • @TriforceWisdom64
    @TriforceWisdom64 Рік тому +16

    It really seems like this idea should have just been made into a movie instead of mixed media.

  • @mariokarter13
    @mariokarter13 Рік тому +8

    "I wanted to make a game about communication without words."
    But Journey already existed so the team was SOL.

  • @JakeRanney
    @JakeRanney Рік тому +33

    Any time I hear about this game, I confuse it with the movie The Bye Bye Man

  • @matildarose
    @matildarose Рік тому +16

    Arc Rise Fantasia could be an episode all its own.
    From what I know, for some reason, the English dub was done in Japan, so all their talent were local English voice actors, or people outside the video game industry entirely (one of which did a damn good job, imho).
    This is just from me looking at the cast, but it makes a whole lot make so much more sense.

    • @davidsterling7570
      @davidsterling7570 Рік тому +4

      YESSS another Arc Rise fan!!
      Yeah I emailed the lead VA way back (Brett Coleman iirc?) and the dub was def recorded there. Probably saved money; I believe the cast were largely native English speakers so it must've been the direction.

    • @matildarose
      @matildarose Рік тому +3

      Yep! The Wii was curiously lacking for JRPGs for some weird reason, despite having some stellar examples.

  • @TheGrikko
    @TheGrikko Рік тому +13

    Northernlion's let's play of this game is one of my favorite of all time. His sardonic and observational sense of humor was perfect for this trainwreck.

    • @Cincy32
      @Cincy32 Рік тому +1

      I just watched his highlights on this game & it was genuinely one of the dullest things I've ever seen in my life. Not a single joke told, dude just laughs like a teenager the whole time. I'm speechless.

  • @CandGoods
    @CandGoods Рік тому +7

    There is also a real uncanny-valley-ness going on between the live-action filmed scenes with actors and the gameplay segments with in-game models

  • @montague4931
    @montague4931 Рік тому +121

    Ah, The Quiet Man. Truly one of the most ‘tone-deaf’ games of all time 😂

    • @Dustemikkel_Rev
      @Dustemikkel_Rev Рік тому +6

      I tip my hat to that joke. Well played! 😂

  • @BOTC201
    @BOTC201 Рік тому +82

    It's a quiet game about a man who went quiet due to his critical reception

  • @Harukurochan
    @Harukurochan Рік тому +61

    You know, I have to agree with Joe Kelly and Matt on this, it *is* a shame to see a creative new attempt at a game fail. I love Fujinaga’s personal story about how games can connect people without words, because I feel that is something that is very true, and I sincerely hope he is able to make a game like that some day. Unfortunately it seems like “The Quiet Man” was far too ambitious of a project, and not the best representation for hard of hearing players if I recall reviews from its release. Maybe the next time he tries to take a crack at this idea he should work on something much smaller and with more contact with HOH developers from the start.
    Speaking of failed Square Enix ideas, I feel like “Babylon’s Fall” or “FFVII: The First SOLDIER” would be damn good contenders for future “What Happened” videos.

    • @artur6912
      @artur6912 Рік тому +11

      "Just because you're unique, doesn't mean you're useful". IMHO the problem was that it was a stupid idea from the start, a heavily narrative focused game where the player doesn't see the narrative, what could go wrong. At least give an internal monologue to leather jacket Bethoven, since it's not like deaf people don't have inner thoughts. If people really have such a hard-on for representation (god, I hate that term and hate how it's considered as always being a good thing) then incorporate the disability it some way as a mechanic (I don't count awkward cutscenes as mechanics). There's this one Indy horror game which name I don't remember, because I just saw a few mins of gameplay on a random yt video, but you played as a blind woman investigating a haunted mansion, the player didn't see anything, but could use the cane to basically send a sonar pulse to see the shapes around for few seconds (with the drawback that using it could alert the monster to your location), notes and labels on items like for example a bottle of pills had to be "read" by using the protagonist smartphone with a text to speech app, and stuff like that. Basically, the heroine being blind was not just a gimmick for the narrative but a core gameplay mechanic. And yes, I know blind people don't have a daredevil like sonar, but bending reality to make an interesting gameplay mechanic is nothing new and by the end of the day, a video game should be fun to play.

  • @cylondorado4582
    @cylondorado4582 Рік тому +8

    I feel like gameplay should never just be a complete afterthought. It doesn't have to be the most in depth thing ever if it's story driven, but it shouldn't be just a chore. If it is, I'd rather just watch a movie.

  • @kenyastarflight
    @kenyastarflight Рік тому +5

    Between this game and Balan Wonderworld, it makes you wonder if someone inside SquareEnix isn't trying to implode the company from within... or if they're just cursed.

  • @GoetiaTV
    @GoetiaTV Рік тому +9

    All the film footage looks great, real actors, pretty shots… I want to watch a play through.

  • @Damian_1989
    @Damian_1989 Рік тому +5

    Square Enix is pretty much doing a Konami but with NFTs instead of Pachinko.

  • @Balblair
    @Balblair Рік тому +8

    The irony of this development having communication issues.
    I forgot that this game ever came out, but I guess that tracks with Square's ineptitude at marketing. Cough TWEWY Neo cough

  • @LegendsForever206
    @LegendsForever206 Рік тому +13

    I’m glad your covering this one cause I’ve known about this game since Rerez played it on their just bad games series and I’ve been curious as to what happened with this game.

  • @oneuptheextraman
    @oneuptheextraman Рік тому +4

    I never played the game, but I remember hearing about it. I think it was jaboody dubs did a play through of it with no subtitles, and they were SUPER confused as to what was going on. And I think that was the issue. If they included subtitles from the start (at least for the parts the main character could understand, with their lip reading and sign language skills), I think that would have gone a long way.

  • @popkorn3003
    @popkorn3003 Рік тому +5

    Fingers crossed that Death by Degrees Tekken spin-off game will be on this show someday!

  • @GuessWho7197
    @GuessWho7197 Рік тому +4

    I'm a huge fan of Joe Kelly's comic work, especially his Spider-Man and Superman stuff, so I'm surprised to hear he had such a big hand in this. Guess they can't all be bangers.

  • @corbinbelle8082
    @corbinbelle8082 Рік тому +6

    Oh I boy, I forgot about the Quiet Man.

  • @luc9867
    @luc9867 Рік тому +15

    it's a real shame this game ended up like this, it sounds like a really cool concept. it should theoretically be possible to tell a story without dialogue by using the characters' body language and the environments to convey their emotions, but i think the story would have to be pretty simple to pull it off on a large scale
    making the game as if it were a movie was, uh, a choice though. it's a video game, not a film. games can still tell intricate, compelling stories while still having good gameplay

    • @JM-dq7xn
      @JM-dq7xn Рік тому +7

      They threw so many non-videogame-y things there, it's almost like they didn't wanted it to be a videogame in the first place

    • @JohnWilliams-wl9px
      @JohnWilliams-wl9px Рік тому

      Honesty I get the impression of a Dev so obsessed with their unique idea that they never once actually implement it.

  • @GamerSlyRatchet1
    @GamerSlyRatchet1 Рік тому +4

    I was honestly surprised by Man of Action's involvement in this game. Joe Kelly's usually a pretty good comic book writer, so it sucks that he got mixed up in all of this.

  • @keeganfisher6800
    @keeganfisher6800 Рік тому

    I've been waiting so long for you to cover this!

  • @honguy1705
    @honguy1705 Рік тому +33

    I feel like LabZeroGames or at least a stand-alone on either Skullgirls or Indivisible would be prefect to see on the What Happened stage.

    • @brycecartwright2403
      @brycecartwright2403 Рік тому

      Still so sad about their ceo being a shithole. They had really cool stuff in line for indivisible that got cut as a result. Why do so many people in the games industry have to be sexist asshole man

    • @cthulhu888
      @cthulhu888 Рік тому

      I loved playing indivisible! Its a shame it didnt get to make it big like skullgirls eventually did, hopefully the series can be picked up by another studio for a potential sequel someday tho ^^;

    • @auqustfire
      @auqustfire Рік тому

      I thought Skullgirls was pretty popular? At least, it was at first, idk now. It didn't have a lot of staying power, I guess.

    • @brycecartwright2403
      @brycecartwright2403 Рік тому +2

      @@auqustfire it’s more so the company behind skullgirls labzero that was bad mainly because of their ceo. I’d recommend looking into it if you’re interested

    • @honguy1705
      @honguy1705 Рік тому +4

      @@auqustfire Skullgirls is one of those good games with a complicated production history stories, mainly the gap between it’s last update to now with it’s re release, new season pass, and it’s honestly fun mobile game.

  • @LunaGirl196
    @LunaGirl196 Рік тому +4

    “YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN’T HEAR QUIET MAN!”- Ryan Northernlion

  • @sealeo5772
    @sealeo5772 Рік тому +4

    The basic problem of The Quiet Man is that rather than trying to create a story without audio, it created a story and then turned off the dialogue. The DLC just makes that even more obvious, claiming that the purpose of the bait and switch was to promote speculation and analysis doesn't work because the things that people use to analyze media, hypothesize about character intentions and so on are the things missing, while the sequence of events and ending, things which are usually speculated about, are shown.
    I also think that the game didn't really get how short, narrative-driven games work well. Games like Firewatch, Tacoma, What Remains of Edith Finch and so on all have few gameplay systems and put things like narrative over tests of skill, but the core gameplay system is one that is familiar to most gamers and provides constant interactivity, even if it is low-intensity. In Firewatch you walk around and talk to Delilah at the same time, with your attention slowly shifting between the two or in Gone Home you are given the story as you explore and find clues while you are always in control of your character. But in The Quiet Man the play pattern is you play a beat em up game where no story takes place then watch a cutscene where story happens but there is no interactivity.

  • @ZionKraze
    @ZionKraze Рік тому +2

    Oh the Quiet Man film, my dad loves that film (mostly because of John Wayne), and they have a museum there in Ireland where it was filmed and he went there in 2019.

  • @GuiltyOne438
    @GuiltyOne438 Рік тому +2

    So, I searched for The Quiet Man on TVTropes, and guess what? The first result is the John Wayne movie there as well.

  • @LBDNytetrayn
    @LBDNytetrayn Рік тому +2

    Glad you were able to find info on this one, I thought for sure they'd keep quiet about it.

  • @Stonk5331
    @Stonk5331 Рік тому +6

    OMG..i have waited for this one

  • @names-are-for-friends
    @names-are-for-friends Рік тому +1

    "Context Changes. It's Terrifying." is a wonderfully translated sentence.

  • @shoresean1237
    @shoresean1237 Рік тому +1

    Just gonna add one more old-school Quiet Man trivia - the original story had the protagonist as a feisty runt that people kept underestimating - little danger of that with the Duke playing him live action. A lot of words come to mind with the late John Wayne - runt is not among them. That is all.

  • @kyliethelittlespider-mangirl94

    I requested this a while back, thanks for doing this!

  • @D00D64
    @D00D64 Рік тому +11

    Watching on mute for the true Quiet Man experience

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 Рік тому +4

      You need to watch the video twice. First muted, then with sound.

  • @DrBidoofenshmirtz
    @DrBidoofenshmirtz Рік тому +3

    Man, after Balan Wonderworld and then this I wonder if there’s anything else that’ll go wrong with Naka in his Square Enix era…

  • @MrSamfonseca
    @MrSamfonseca Рік тому +18

    The 2:11 quiet wipe transition was hilarious!

  • @raonimarqs
    @raonimarqs Рік тому

    I LOVED THAT GAG! thank you for going so far

  • @jpjammin1876
    @jpjammin1876 Рік тому +2

    These are always awesome. I love this series. It may be an odd request, but could you please cover Nancy Drew: Midnight in Salem?

  • @heavyaccentguy5056
    @heavyaccentguy5056 Рік тому

    Thank you Matt for covering this game 🙏 (and for the continued listing of the music ♥)

  • @PsionicMonk
    @PsionicMonk Рік тому +3

    Love this show, thanks for being you my guy

  • @Morbos1000
    @Morbos1000 Рік тому

    I clicked on this because I watch all your What Happened? but didn't really know what it was about. But once you started showing and describing the game I was like "OOHHHHH... THAT game..." which made this 10x more fun to watch! Definitely a great concept for a game but clearly it spiraled out of control.

  • @DarthOmix
    @DarthOmix Рік тому +3

    The Quiet Man John Wayne movie isn't that bad. It's dated to hell, yes, but as someone who was made to sit through it I think it's my favorite Wayne film that's not a western. The fact that the sentence "here's a stick to beat the lovely lady" is said unironically in this film is something worthwhile.

  • @atarichild81
    @atarichild81 Рік тому +2

    I'm so glad you started off with a goof on the John Wayne movie, that's the first place my brain went.

  • @spotteddick9949
    @spotteddick9949 Рік тому +3

    I gotta be honest, the detective guy's in-game face looks like something out of early Assassin's Creed games.

  • @axelvoss9653
    @axelvoss9653 Рік тому +6

    A tale as old as time:
    "Just make a movie."

  • @Reiderreiter
    @Reiderreiter Рік тому +2

    Methinks that soon Square Enix will have enough Wha Happun? episodes to rival the amount Capcom games have gotten. There’s been a _lot_ of worthy candidates recently and the promise of more on the way.

  • @chemergency
    @chemergency Рік тому +30

    The Quiet Man's concept had a lot of potential, if the gameplay weren't so dull and the story hadn't shat the bed so hard it could have been a cult classic- easily.

    • @thecryingsoul
      @thecryingsoul Рік тому +8

      Agreed, if every part of the game weren't so bad it would have been game of the year lol

  • @WhispyWoods.
    @WhispyWoods. Рік тому

    I totally missed this one. Never heard of it. Very interesting video as always 👍

  • @imjustdandy9799
    @imjustdandy9799 Рік тому +1

    Are you telling me they made a game about a deaf man, and locked SUBTITLES behind dlc?? Yeah that tracks, Smdh.

  • @guttsu
    @guttsu Рік тому +2

    I have a soft spot for games that try weird stuff. As you said this one just didn't come together properly, but kudos for trying anything around a major disability.

  • @AssaulteedOne
    @AssaulteedOne Рік тому +1

    Thinking of games with interesting gimmicks, it would be really cool to see some videos covering all of WARP's (ie, Kenji Eno's game studio who made titles like D, Enemy Zero, D2, and the more obscure) games.
    Especially as it relates to deaf and blind persons, there's the interesting experiment "Real Sound: Kaze no Regret" I would love to hear more about.

  • @androidinblack5291
    @androidinblack5291 Рік тому +2

    I am once again asking for a Quest for Camelot episode.

  • @mekman4
    @mekman4 Рік тому

    Great Stuff, as always!

  • @mariuszj3826
    @mariuszj3826 Рік тому +2

    Speaking of Human HeadStudios you should check out their biggest travesty and betrayal that was Rune 2 aka Rune Ragnarok. Rune was an amazing classic and they hyped up a sequel that was not only a failure, but a lawsuit filled tragedy and betrayal to the fans. The studio shut down right after releasing Rune 2 leaving quite an outrage behind.

  • @SirAsdf
    @SirAsdf Рік тому +4

    Do you know how much money I would pay to be in the creative room when they decided that having the entire game be intentionally incomprehensible was a great idea?

  • @adrianinha19
    @adrianinha19 Рік тому +1

    As a movie and not a video game this would have been awesome, imagine people going crazy trying to read lips, sign lenguage, re watching to catch the little nuances in reactions...this should have been an indie film. And then 6 months later after the internet had done all they could to try and undertand the film,they release the sound version and fans would feel both rewarded for guessing right and dumb for missing out the obvious details.
    Sometimes you just need to pick the right medium for a story, and videogame wansn't it for this one.

  • @candidgamera
    @candidgamera Рік тому +1

    Waiting on the What Happened? For Twitter itself.

  • @axllaw427
    @axllaw427 Рік тому +1

    I can already see Babylon's Fall being the next topic of What Happened

  • @craigsmith6039
    @craigsmith6039 Рік тому +2

    Waiting patiently for South Park: The Stick of Truth, though with a new game from THQ Nordic in the works, I guess we should wait on that. In the meantime, there's still Thief 2014 and Homefront (both the original and The Revolution) that need a What Happened episode

  • @SonicPhan630
    @SonicPhan630 Рік тому +1

    WTF JOE KELLY???? He's the guy that popularized Deadpool! Yeah Fabian Nicieza and Rob Liefeld were the creators of Deadpool, but it was Joe Kelly who wrote Deadpool's first solo series and gave him all the quirks that stuck with the character to this day. The black humor, the 4th wall-breaking, the silly mixed with the tragic were all Joe Kelly. Before Joe Kelly, Deadpool was just a C-list mercenary who made quips. Even the characters of Weasel and Blind Al from the movies were introduced in his run. This blew my mind.

  • @Kasaaz
    @Kasaaz Рік тому +1

    I accidentally muted the tab while watching and thought Matt was making quite the joke, laughing far too hard. Instead, I was just dumb...

  • @shadeknight6537
    @shadeknight6537 Рік тому +1

    As I watched the video, one question kept ringing in my head: why does this game need to have combat? From everything I could gather, it seems like The Quiet Man was intended as a narrative experience first and foremost, so why not make the game closer to an adventure game? It seems to me that one of the big issues with the development is that the team couldn't quite move past the idea that a game needs to have action to be interesting, and so seeing the deaf guy just zip forward almost Arkham Asylum style just looks jarring to me.

  • @robo-nidai4236
    @robo-nidai4236 Рік тому +2

    I will never get tired of that clip of Yoko Taro rolling on the floor and shouting "Shit Square Enix!" in his mask.

  • @JamesJohnson-tr1gu
    @JamesJohnson-tr1gu Рік тому

    I would love some more Flophouse Files...I really enjoy those videos, as well as the Gone Too Soon videos

  • @Faction.Paradox
    @Faction.Paradox Рік тому +1

    This might be the only What Happened episode where the thumbnail answers the question the video's title asks.

  • @jaythomas468
    @jaythomas468 Рік тому +1

    Ahh, The Quiet Man-can you believe this was the last game by the same studio (Human Head) that was working on the original iteration of Prey 2?

  • @NotJustABarista
    @NotJustABarista Рік тому +1

    First thing I thought of when I saw the title was the Giant Bomb crew losing it to this game yelling “Mom’s Dead Parkour” 😂

  • @k_isforkaito.
    @k_isforkaito. Рік тому

    I've always wanted to see Matt's angle of it. Surprised you managed to bring up the book and play by the same name.

  • @soulhunter91
    @soulhunter91 Рік тому +2

    11:15 huh. I didn't know Matt is a Blink

  • @WillieManga
    @WillieManga Рік тому +1

    If there's one game that can be considered half assed in this video series, it'd be this game. Not only unfinished in terms of understanding how deaf people adapt, but unfinished in terms of the gameplay segments being much shorter than the cutscenes. I understand we don't need words all the time, but we need SOMETHING if you're going to make the protagonist able to understand the plot while making us unable to. It's the reverse of that Walking With Dinosaurs movie which adds unnecessary sound, while this adds unnecessary silence.