Thank-you for watching and thanks to our sponsors, PIA - head to www.privateinternetaccess.com/CoolWorlds to get complete digital privacy for $2.08/mo. (for 3 years) + two months free. Let me know your thoughts on this one! Do you think the "Lurkers" idea is something astronomers should pursue? Or is our best bet to look outside the Solar System? 🤔
@@hiqhduke where can I learn more about the intergalactic phosphorus shortage? Isn't is produced in ordinary stars and distributed with rocky elements when they supernova?
@@hiqhduke I found a 2018 article which reports on two supernovas, one with plenty of phosphorus and the other without, and on that basis people infer a universal phosphorus shortage?
Given meta-materials, cameras, holographic panels and combinations thereof - offer the plausibility of creating a means of hiding an object across a wide band of the electro-magnetic spectrum? then an advanced civilization would have surely mastered such technology - ergo distance from an observer is irrelevant when it comes to hiding from that observer. Ergo there are probably invisible probes just hovering around in the atmosphere, watching football games, measuring the heights of trees etc
Wouldn’t it be great if alien watchers introduced themselves one day and showed us high def video of historic events like the napoleonic wars, early human civilizations, dinosaurs, etc.
@@jonathansheridan9780 i'd pay a ton to see a super volcanic eruption, or the flood volcanism that caused the permian mass extinction, and the chicxulub impact
@william sands I think if we found the alien watchers, we’d then see that they weren’t built how history teaches they were built! It just doesn’t add up!
I love that Arthur C. Clarke described the concept of his alien monoliths on our moon and around Jupiter as some kind of cosmic burglar alarm system to alert their builders as to when humankind had become clever enough to escape Earth and discover them.
And the Rama appeared to have a closer look , thing with Rama was that every thing that was inside was in threes for redundancy , another two to follow would not be surprising . May I suggest City and the Stars another of Clarkes classics and 2 me one of the most profound. Know comment is 9 months late but then again the Universe is somewhat of a large place.
The funny thing is that we can spend a lot of resources on guessing yet "they" might be here now but not fit into our conventional logical parameters and be completely undetectable or even unthinkable by our sensory frame.
Imagine if they were 4d somehow, i'd be basically impossible unless they for some reason went into the 3d realm, the thing we would see would be so distorted and just literally phase out of existence idk if it would even be useful info
@@sgt.averyjohnson8395 Rogan didn’t start talking that shit until I mansplained him after taking a heroic dose of peptobismal. Now joe is awake, and the rest is history
Imagine we actually found one of those probes. To the aliens it’s probably the same reaction we have when animals look straight into our hidden cameras, except more intense since we’d probably start dismantling it.
OMG thats exactly what the Alien Watcher said happened when he met Elon!! Said he stared at him didn't smile or anything and one eye twitched as he rolled a brain chip between his fingers! Alien Watcher said " I ran like hell!"
Maybe, an alien race somewhere is receiving live feed of us from thousands of years ago. They're learning more about us, about our past, than we know ourselves.
If by "live feed" you mean chemical signature of our atmosphere at that time, then yes. Highly unlikely mind you, couple thousand years is too soon, and there are only milion or so stars in that thousand light years radius around us, though that might seem as much, chances of any complex, multicellular organisms, especially advanced civilization living on any of those worlds are pretty slim unfortunately
The bit i find more intriguing about long term alien surveillance of us is the prospect of them beaming the data back to us. Imagine seeing the full timeline of humans moving out of Africa.
I consume a LOT of science content but this is some of the BEST! The script writing is elegant and simple. The logical outlay is perfectly formulated. The delivery entices a sense of calm wonder and reflection. This guy would be my nominee for a motivational speaker if your audience was too smart for dopes like Tony Robbins!
So then i watched Pinocchio and the Easter bunny come flying over the wall with Megatron and Thanos hot on their trail and let me tell you they looked pissed off!! Luckily, Peter Griffin and the chicken were having another epic battle and somehow our heroes escaped unharmed. Crazy right?! Oh yeah, and there were also secret aliens and stuff but don't tell anyone.
Anyone else remember when Dumbledore Calrissian did the Keebler run in 9.2 parseps?! I do, his passengers included Harry Baggins and Bilbo Potter and the ship was called the Enterprise. The personal vehicle options included the scooty puff senior for those who needed a little more room and also the scooty puff Junior for those in a sporty mood!! Merry Christmas everyone!!
Amazing as always. I'm working on my phD in a different field, and this channel keeps my childhood fascinations alive and reminds me to think in a scientific manner. Some of my favorite memories are looking at our moon through a backyard telescope with my dad when I was 7. He pointed the telescope at the street light and told me it was Jupiter 😂 great times.
And why did you have to say “ I’m working on my phD in a different field”??? Doesn’t make you look good by saying that makes you look like an argue clown trying to brag on something no one even cares about…
"Instead, we might discover, it is the journey itself that defines us who we are" I thought this was a great sentiment. I have always dreamed of other worlds and hope one day, before I die, that I will be able to observe one outside of a dream.
One of the few channels I support so I bought a shirt. Something about your work makes me feel depressed yet hopeful. And that's the beauty of your art. You make me feel. Thank you
With Dolphins we are starting to decode their language. Experimenters are building a map of their sonar emissions. They are given objects of different shapes which they zap with their sonar. The echo signature is then recorded and then reinterpreted visually using software to create the shapes originally zapped. These sounds are then recreated and zapped back to new dolphins who have never seen these shapes or heard the echo signatures relating to them before, yet when they hear them, they go towards the object. We are understanding now that Dolphins literally speak in 3D. It is hoped that we can build enough of a database of sound and their corresponding shapes, to be able to combine elements of the sound signatures to create any shape. Conversely, it is hoped that we can record their chatter and visualise them to - literally - “see” what they’re saying to each other.
I think it’s important to begin taking into consideration that any alien technology that may be out there, may not operate the same way our tech does. It is plausible to assume that alien tech could be much more powerful even at a size of 10 cm. Just a thought.
When the notification pops up on my screen about a new CW video, I get excited and want to stop whatever I am up to. Especially when it is almost a half an hour one. This one made me want to watch Start Trek series all over again. Thank you for this cool episode once again. Cannot wait for the next one! Until then stay thoughtful and stay curious and of course live long🖖
I took 2 tabs of LSD back in 2017. I sat on my lawn chair in my backyard and watched the sunset and it was beautiful. I was 4 hours in and peaking hard. The sky was collidescoping into different shapes and colors. As the night sky set in the shapes faded and I started to notice a hexagonal energy grid appear slightly in the lower atmosphere. The more I watched the more vivid it became. Then out of nowhere I started to see UFOs flying in and out of view. It was the craziest moment of my life. There were so many of them and it was almost like I was looking at a structured outer space highway. They were organized, some stopped and flew down into our atmosphere than zipped off at an insane speed. It spooked me out. It was like they were admiring the view of our planet. I even saw a couple fly down and connect to the hexagon grid In the sky. It was like they were taping into the energy grid to charge their ships!!!! Man that was the most insane trip I ever had and changed my perspective on aliens and UFOs. I truly think they are advanced enough to cloak themselves and visit without us noticing unless they want us too. I also feel like psychedelics allows you to perceive them in different wavelengths!
@@nnoffuture It is quite possible too see in different wavelenghts in LSD’s u do know that your senses, eyes, ears, brains etc are 60%more active ”in use” at the trip mate ? Ofc there is no evidence that it is the case on the trip, but u just can not denie it’s possibility without the evidence.
@S. M. A healthy dose of scepticism is a good thing. Going, this thing is unexplained so it must be aliens, is not that. It's exactly the same line of thinking the religions are built on. What's the difference between you and a Christian? You can't "god of the gaps" stuff then tell everyone else they should question stuff more. It's one or the other. Either people should question stuff more. Or they should believe the completely unprovable stuff you do. There is zero evidence that proves and of those things were aliens, or that any of those stories are even literally true. More likely they are a series of allegories and exaggerations that happened over time as those stories were passed down over the centuries.
Who’s to say a given alien species has eyes and uses light as information and if they did, they may have ways to watch us that we can’t even imagine with advanced technology that to us, is indistinguishable from magic as Clarke said.
This is a good argument. @cool worlds - what are your thoughts about aliens being able to observe in other formats? Just as we are now just beginning gravitational observation, maybe aliens have advanced it, mastered observation of other types of energy or fields? Neutrinos, dark matter, other force carriers that we don’t even know about that convey much more information than ‘electromagnetic’ energy.
@@michaelskywalker3089 cheers Michael. I’ve just always thought that judging an alien species using our own biological standards could be a tad “pre-Copernican” if that makes sense.
He has a voice made for the telly. Shame about the face! Just kidding. Wouldn't be out of place presenting science documentaries on the beeb. We need more Brian Cox's to advance the public understanding of science.
I once asked Seth Shostak about the possibility of detecting an object of alien origin on the moon. He said that sure, we have a vast trove of photos. But there’s a lack of money to pay a dedicated staff to look through them. Just having the photos doesn’t mean having an answer. Sounds like a potential citizen science project to me.
I gave up on this at 2:22 with statement that the planet is "probably more than a thousand times smaller than that." Of course, this is impossible. If it were one time smaller, it wouldn't exist. No matter what unit of measurement you use, size - size = 0. So size - 1000 x size = what, -999 x size?
I'd imagine that the mission of a Lurker would change with time. Presuming they caught our bio and tech signatures around the industrial revolution and were able to get a probe here in time, they could observe us in high detail for quite some decades and watch as we build our space exploration to the point where they might be detected. Then they might move far enough away to prevent that while still being able to monitor our electromagnetic signatures and watch us grow into a space faring species - since they'd already be here. Being unable to "read" those transmissions does not mean you cannot glean information from them.
Or...they are waiting...waiting for us to reach a level of advancement that may challenge them if left unattended for a couple of decades / centuries, at which point, they would act immediately to prevent such a situation
Dr. Kipping, you are a genius, an excellent story--teller and focus on physics regarding amazing topics! Love your channel and thank you so much for sharing your immense knowledge with us! All the best in your future work!
So then i watched Pinocchio and the Easter bunny come flying over the wall with Megatron and Thanos hot on their trail and let me tell you they looked pissed off!! Luckily, Peter Griffin and the chicken were having another epic battle and somehow our heroes escaped unharmed. Crazy right?! Oh yeah, and there were also secret aliens and stuff but don't tell anyone.
Anyone else remember when Dumbledore Calrissian did the Keebler run in 9.2 parseps?! I do, his passengers included Harry Baggins and Bilbo Potter and the ship was called the Enterprise. The personal vehicle options included the scooty puff senior for those who needed a little more room and also the scooty puff Junior for those in a sporty mood!! Merry Christmas everyone!!
It is possible, though. Much older civilizations might have technology incomprehensible for us in our current state of development. Might be something like trying to explain a stoneage person how a cellphone works. Who knows what technology they own?
@@Razmatazuk indeed. We tend to imagine older alien civilizations owning the technology we expect to achieve in a near future. But their technology could be indistinguishable from magic already. In a way that things we imagine being impossible, like faster than light travel, might be basic technology for them.
It would literally take 15 minutes to explain “Stone Age man” what cellphone is. You idiots think that anatomically modern humans from Stone Age were bumbling idiots. Before you know it Stone Age man would be glued to cellphone watching Tik Tok videos of dogs and booty twerking.
I don't believe in infinite technology advancement. We are already near the peak of what is possible in technology. Your cellphone are already using materials only several atoms thick to store information. There is a physical limit to technology and the ceiling above us is not very high. There is not much room for improvement beyond single atom transistor.
These are interesting toughs. The problem with this kind of speculation is that we are all guilty of the same bias. When we try to imagine what a supposed alien civilization might or might not do, we tend to restrain ourselves to our current understanding of the laws of physics. Yet, the fathers of general relativity and quantum physics have taught us that our comprehension of these laws (and more broadly of the nature of reality) at any given time is partial. There most certainly is way more to physics and to the nature of the Universe than we know, or even than we can imagine. Let's say that there is at least one alien civilization in the Universe being aware of our existence. They might be thousands of years ahead of us, if not more. I don't think there is any way at all we could speculate what they are capable of and what they know about the laws of the nature that we totally ignore. It's nice to let our minds wander and try to rationalize, but when it comes to hypothetical alien civilizations, we should stay very humble about what we know and what we don't know. There is way more of the latter than of the former.
Totally correct. This video put humanity in the place of an alien civilization that sends a satellite to a foreign planet with the expectation of being unseen.
and dont forget that just as aliens could be millions of years ahead of us they could also just as easily be millions of years behind us. Its not unlikely that we are the first life form to have advanced this far. Maybe all thats out there right now are simplistic microorganisms.
The one problem I have with this - completely as a devil's advocate - is the anthropic bias inherent to our visible wavelengths of light. We see such a small fraction of the electromagnetic spectrum that it's truly amazing, but we assume that other creatures in far-off places have evolved optics in the same way. But, well, we only have this tiny sample size. Which is really why we're all watching these videos. Keep up the awesome work, David. Thank you!
I sometimes just look outside my window. Through the blinds sometimes, other times I do it with them dragged. I stare at the moon, its bright surface shinning through the clouds, and the moonlight reflecting on the ground and everything around me. It's beautiful to just stare at our Luna, and just imagine thousands of things, extraterrestrial life, the vastness of the universe, the lifespan of humanity and its evolution, etc. Its fascinating to me, by not only looking at this special beautiful rock, but at the stars, as well. It gives this sense of existential dread, and 'its alright' feeling. Knowing that what we do here om Earth, does absolutely nothing to the universe, is terrifying, but we can live out our lives in a good, happy way, which gives me a sense of belonging. Whatever is out there, I wouldn't be scared if it, I would welcome it.
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Once upon a time, when the world was new to me, I was told a strange story by a young lady. I wish I had asked more questions, but that's the difference between being 19 an being 70, then my interest was more in her and my chances of a fling than in hearing the tale. 🙄 In short, her father, who was a government bean counter, of all things, had found a paper trail to just this idea. It seems the leaders of Earth are willing to spend a lot of $$$ to find a group they call "the leftovers". The moon race of the 60s was really between the US and the USSR to (covertly?) look for tech from this group. And if you're looking for hints of a bunch you call "Leftovers" on the moon, then aliens are implied. True? Not true? Who knows now, all I have is a smudgy memory of disappointment that the night never evolved (devolved?) to the level of pleasure. And then this post jogs my memory. 😳
I think they hope they find some advanced tech that would give them a advantage its very unlikely and not the main reason they went to space but if they can find something from a advanced civilization it really could change everything so its something they really wish for.
Neat !! When I was a teenager I would pretend to be a" Lurker" around my neighborhood. Peeking in windows at night and taking the odd item from clothes lines. They said I was a weirdo but who's laughing now ? I'm even gonna get my attorney to demand they change the language of my charges to " Lurking" , sounds cooler than " stalking" and way more accurate. Gotta run , it's getting dark.🛡🤠⚔😚
I actually find this pretty encouraging. Sure, we aren't ever going to be able to remotely image individual alien organisms, but being able to image large collections of organisms (the alien equivalent of forests or even massive algal blooms) seems like it will be possible eventually.
If we were to look for "Lurkers" I would say the moon is a great place to start. If something goes wrong for the "Lurkers" there are resources close by and it is easier to repair something on the moon than something in orbit, nor do I think it would be difficult to hide something like that on the moon. If anyone has the technology to send something to another solar system, then it is probably also reasonable to assume that they have come a long way with AIs. An AI would probably decide to hide itself when thinking that there is a changes it could be discovered, to protect itself and its mission. I do not quite think you have thought this concept all the way to the end, because what I have suggested here is by no means unreasonable, and just because we've photographed the moon in HD resolution, then it's probably only a very small percentage that those images anyone's ever looked at, and even then it is not difficult to hide. I think your conclusion is based on a bias, since NOBODY has EVER looked for a "Lurker" so there is in literally no data to come to that conclusion on. There are no physical laws that prevent there from being a "Lurker" so the conclusion must necessarily be, We do not know, we need more data.
What should we look for if we were looking for "Lurkers" on the Moon? How large would it be? The entire back side of the Moon could be one big huge installation and we would never know it. So what would they need to put on this side? They could have a thousand teeny tiny high-resolution cameras and we would not see a one unless we were right on top of it. They could have nearly microscopic cameras in orbit and we would never find them even if we knee they were there, and exactly what to look for.
I’m more inclined to believe in motherships rather than bases. But who knows. I believe these ufos we see come from a mothership or base nearby. Most people talk about the ufos just having chairs inside. Those are the scout ships. A mothership could easily be anywhere in space. Ever hear of the Ariel school encounter in Ruwa Zimbabwe? An alien made contact with kids via telepathy. Thats my fav
This is very possible as the hollow moon theory could suggest this. Remember that Von Braun crashed the first and third lunar modules on the Moon's surface and one rung like a bell for 10 to 15 minutes and the third module which was 3x heavier had the crash gonged basically for an hour. Now this was just in one area of 5 miles (radius) which only suggests that the immediate area has some subsurface structure to it but the rest of the moon has not been explored so this is a limited sample of the unusual find.
Thanks you for the video, Professor. Your statement about Omomura got me thinking, that a space probe would most likely be set to tumble to do a full sky survey, any sensor system could be gimbled and paired, which leads to a thought. Maybe a method for detecting visiting probes would be to analyse the rates of rotation of any interesting objects and see if it fits a pattern that would meet the needs of a full sky survey? That sounds like an easy win as getting that data on asteroids is pretty useful in itself anyway.
the tidally locked surface of the moon facing us would be a great spot for say 3 camouflaged mini telescopes working with interferometry and spaced over almost the whole diameter of the moon
Thanks for giving us another superb video expanding our personal understanding and horizons. I’ve been fascinated by these questions since I was a child, and your explanations and delivery are top notch!
What about an atmospheric alien device, which orbits within our atmosphere? Maybe they use a different propulsion system that works very efficient - recent event have shown us that even the US Airforce didn't know about everything in our airsprace. But for telescopes outside our atmosphere I don't see a way either. Awesome Video :)
Dr Kipping. I really enjoy your videos and have alot of admiration and respect for everything you post. You discuss or present everything with factual data to back it up. If your uncertain, you give your best educated guess based on data available and most of all you let viewers know. You don't blurt out nonsense that you believe in and make viewers believe it to be real when it's not. I can go on and on but I'm just want to say thanks for being a cool dude with a level head that's down to earth and most of all for being real. Gotta go.
I appreciate your dissection of the optical requirements in this scenario. I have to say I certainly wondered when I saw the title of this video! Great info and perspective, as usual.
The operative part here is "to the best of our knowledge". The defining issue here is that a truly advanced civilisation would run circles around our knowledge. Cheers
@@CoolWorldsLab if there were alien visitors that aren't terrified of how we portray them in media, I expect they would lurk mostly on things like Reddit and Twitter these days.
Resolution available to tumbling Oumuamua: I think Oumuamua was just a rock. However, if it WERE an advanced probe, tumbling might be to its advantage. By taking multiple "images" as it tumbled, it could have an effective disk diameter equal to it's length, rather than just its static surface area.
The Drake Equation should be under constant revision. Seems the more research that's gathered, the less we can be certain of extra-terrestrial life by many factors - and that certainty is exponentially lessened again by those factors we have yet to even consider.
So interesting and well explained of the difficulties in seeing the surface of other planets. I enjoy my imagination of what is out there and that is good enough for me.
I would assume effective stealth (not like, current airplane stealth of The Expanse version of it) would not be that hard for any group that can put stuff here to take a little for a long while. Like, think of a high-end version of soldiers putting on the correct colored outfit and being stealth-ed to wildlife that is close by. I am sure with our own tech, ignoring cost and other reality specific to humans in 2020-ish, you could hide plenty on the light side of the moon, in plain sight.
Maybe. There's nothing preventing us imaging the moon with significantly higher resolution than we already have besides cost, though. If we decided to image the moon with 10cm resolution rather than 100m resolution, it'd be extremely hard to hide anything.
I think the "black knight" is one of the "probes" monitoring our planet for thousands of years. Seeing how it emits a translatable frequency as well! Hummm! This is awesome! Thanx for the upload
"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" We haven't found anything that proves that they visited our solar system. But who knows what we'll find.
The absence of evidence is absolutely the evidence of absence. It's not PROOF of absence, but it is 100% the evidence of absence. How do we know that there isn't a race of giant humans living in the Sahara desert? Because there is no evidence to suggest that there is.
@@righty-o3585 We should expect to find evidence of advance alien races on space... Even on our solar system... What is absolutely intriguing is that we haven't found anything yet. And Actually you are wrong .. absence of evidence still not evidence of absence.. and there's nothing not scientific about it... So far we don't have a reason to believe we have such objects on our solar system... But it doesn't mean we shouldn't look for them.
@@randomlabs1784 we should find evidence of alien races in our solar system ? Says who? And why does everybody assume that an alien race will be more advanced than us? It's just as likely that we are the advanced race. Like I said, absence of evidence isn't PROOF of absence, but it is EVIDENCE of absence. We've been looking for evidence for bigfoot, and the loch Ness monster, but we haven't found any, and that suggests that they don't exist. We've been looking for alien life and we haven't found any. Which suggests that they don't exist. Or that they are so far away that it wouldn't make any difference that they do exist. Because we would NEVER be able to communicate with them in any way. Do I believe that alien life exists? Yes I do. I also believe that they are so far away from us that it makes no difference, because we will never be able to reach each other
While I appreciate a fairly thorough analysis through our current levels of technology, since we're talking about "alien lurkers" and satellites, and posing "what if" questions, I'm left feeling a little bit disappointed that the only rumoured alien satellite, the "black knight satellite" didn't even get a mention here.
I think that if they have found a way to get close enough to us to take a "picture" they would have already moved beyond using lenses. I'm imagining they would have something like a reverse laser, something that is able to gather photons extremely precisely, Something else, do they even have eyes that see light in the same spectrum that we do? Do they even perceive and process light in the same way? Any alien technology that would be able to monitor or interact with us would be so far beyond our understanding because the civilization that created it would be FAR beyond where we are technologically.. like, thousands, millions or even billions of years ahead of us.. AND the beings that created it could've followed a much different evolutionary path that we don't even recognize them as lifeforms.
Are they even on the same plane of existence as we are, what all do we know about what defines intelligence or thought? There is still so much to learn about the universe and we are still debating things like how matter works and operates.
@@remiscott7759 That's pure speculation. An interesting thought and idea that I think deserves extensive research but unfortunately things of that nature are not well understood yet.
Just came across this channel. I love the format, I love the presentation, I love the content! Already 3 deep in, and looking forward to more! Thank you to the Cool Worlds team! :)
It's not unfathomable that there could be alien nanobots in low orbit around the earth. Space is so big there are innumerable spaces that an alien civilization could hide their deep space satellites. A civilization which is a billion years ahead of us may have technologies that is beyond our wildest imagination.
Agreed and just looking at how much we've progressed in just the last 30 years and its not unfathomable to think we'd reach that sort of level ourselves provided we dont wipe ourselves out over the next million or so years.
@@stevel9627 - I think our main issue is that when we consider these possibilities, we are thinking like humans. I mean this is a given because it's all we know how to think like but hear me out... We are living by a concept that "well that technology simply wouldn't work, we couldn't do that therefore nothing else can" Just because humans can't make a telescope that's tiny and has insane resolution capabilities doesn't mean a 4 billion year old civilisation couldn't. With age comes advancements, and compared to even a 5 million year old species, they could be twice as advanced as us.. now compare us go a 5 billion year old species, humans are merely in the infantile stages at best.
I wanted to ask about the possibility of a cloaking system that we may just not understand. The amount of questions, that really my imagination was running with went wild.
@@Chris.Davies This entire thing is speculative. And black paint isn't very fantasy. They painted the fucking SR71 in radio absorbing paint in the 60s my guy, you really think cloaking a probe with the intention to observe and not to interfere is "fantasy"? Shit man that would literally be the goal if they don't want civilizations to be influenced by them. It's what we do with ghillie nets in the forest to take photos of tigers. Do you really think it's far-fetched, at least compared to other ideas presented?
They are and have been watching, much more than that. I was gifted or something like that in 2017 for about 10 days. During that time I was allowed to see and feel our world as it really is. I know this sounds crazy, but it unlocked my mind. During that time I functioned normally, but my mind was in a fog, I finally asked out loud (by myself) for clarity and woke up in the morning mentally sharp, but the "feeling" was gone. And I dearly missed it. I can only describe it as (corny as it sounds) unconditional love.
Imagine this hypothetical scenario where our radiocommunications use the specific wavelengths which are naturally audible to an alien civilization, and they just refer to earth as that "obnoxious shrieking planet"
many ancient stories do tell of exactly such a scenario. Enki or Enlil( I forget which and couldn't care less who is who anymore) supposedly said exactly this about earth. So fucking obnoxious. So god damn loud. All their thoughts echoing into the depths like brainless zombies chattering with themselves. An endless stream of genetically embedded fear responses subconsciously triggering subconscious reactions, cascading forward in time like ripples on a pond, yet with no center, and no stone to be found suggesting an intelligence anywhere. Just soulless, genetically selected neural networks, suffering in unison. Alone. Every idea you've ever come into contact was fed to you from "the outside." Whatever identity you still cling to wrapped up in your prefrontal cortex that your parents have named and that your ego refuses to relinquish, the entire game, the entire world, all of it, was given to you. You did not create any of it. Inside or out. You inhabit a technologically advanced wetsuit designed to imprison and punish your consciousness. You are a prisoner. Nothing you do will ever matter. You repeat everything you hear, combinatorically obfuscating your plagiarism like a child playing with legos, using bricks they did not create, and copying their older siblings until becoming bored and losing interest. You claim ownership of it, beaming with unearned pride. Fuck every last human.
many ancient stories do tell of exactly such a scenario. Enki or Enlil( I forget which and couldn't care less who is who anymore) supposedly said exactly this about earth. So fucking obnoxious. So god damn loud. All their thoughts echoing into the depths like brainless zombies chattering with themselves. An endless stream of genetically embedded fear responses subconsciously triggering subconscious reactions, cascading forward in time like ripples on a pond, yet with no center, and no stone to be found suggesting an intelligence anywhere. Just soulless, genetically selected neural networks, suffering in unison. Alone. Every idea you've ever come into contact was fed to you from "the outside." Whatever identity you still cling to wrapped up in your prefrontal cortex that your parents have named and that your ego refuses to relinquish, the entire game, the entire world, all of it, was given to you. You did not create any of it. Inside or out. You inhabit a technologically advanced wetsuit designed to imprison and punish your consciousness. You are a prisoner. Nothing you do will ever matter. You repeat everything you hear, combinatorically obfuscating your plagiarism like a child playing with legos, using bricks they did not create, copying their older sibling's designs until becoming bored and losing interest without ever once contributing an original thought. You claim ownership of it, beaming with unearned pride.
@@disabledchatzen5276 you're assuming that other civilizations would be able to receive those transmissions. absolutely no guarantee that they even perceive anything at that frequency. Even if they can, why assume it may be some bothersome noise to them? for all we know it could be their equivalent to a choir of angels. seriously, if you hate your own species that much, take yourself out of the gene pool. last thing humanity needs is more nihilists that want to see others die. edit: Misanthropy is not a virtue.
There's at least one question to the thought train I can ask. Must the aliens use an optical wavelength for their imaging? Even many native animals on Earth have their senses beyond optical range.
Damn, you beat me to it. I only see one issue and that's the biological limitations on a visible spectrum. No alien will see in radio, for example, and we're radio invisible anyway. It goes right through us. I doubt the most extreme vision on earth could make much difference either. Butterflies have the widest visible spectrum, so someone can check that. Mantis Shrimp can differentiate the most colors. They have like 16 different color receptors or something.
@@urphakeandgey6308 how the hell do you know? 🙂 There could be aliens out there with eyes the size of dinner plates who see somewhere in the radio spectrum. Bats on Earth use sonar, so why not?
Well, seems like the aliens home star system would need to be within 100 light years or so for us to peak their curiosity and make sending a probe feasible.
The older I get realizing how little I know... Could you imagine being some of the first humans on earth, not even knowing what stars were. Quite scary if ya think about it, not knowing stars just knowing so so little about everything.
Thanks for this latest video. Great stuff. These subjects seem far fetched but always trigger new ideas and questions. What a time to be alive! Will you do something on the JWST after it is launched?
I'm not sure I understand the requirement that resolving individual beings on the planetary surface is any sort of necessity here. Seems to me resolving the surface to 20 or 30 meters (or even 500 meters) of planets all around the galaxy would be monumentally informative and fascinating. A picture of an alien city would be pretty satisfying to me. As noted in the vid, we humans are already working on sending tiny light sail probes to Alpha Centauri simply to flyby the planetary system and see what's there with no intention of trying to resolve critters crawling around the surface of those planets. I don't think big alien telescopes are likely to be evident all over the galaxy, but maybe small alien probes (like shoebox sized or smaller) could be.
Maybe aliens don't need giant telescopes to observe us. They might have completely different sensory organs than us, which would lead them to having completely different technology built around their understanding of their surrounding, than what we think they may have.
I lean towards any other intelligent life being fairly similar to us than not. We are Soo massively unique in the galaxy that we know and beyond. It's hard to imagine another intelligent being not just being real but but incredibly different with their sensory organs.
@@JM-wf2to I don't think it's hard to imagine at all, given that they would have evolved under very different circumstances on a world very different from our own.
Thank-you for watching and thanks to our sponsors, PIA - head to www.privateinternetaccess.com/CoolWorlds to get complete digital privacy for $2.08/mo. (for 3 years) + two months free. Let me know your thoughts on this one! Do you think the "Lurkers" idea is something astronomers should pursue? Or is our best bet to look outside the Solar System? 🤔
@@hiqhduke where can I learn more about the intergalactic phosphorus shortage? Isn't is produced in ordinary stars and distributed with rocky elements when they supernova?
@@hiqhduke And I think Isaac Arthur had an episode on this as a possible solution for the Fermi Paradox.
@@hiqhduke Hossenfelder still prefers particle dark matter hypotheses even after LIGO/VIRGO, doesn't she?
@@hiqhduke I found a 2018 article which reports on two supernovas, one with plenty of phosphorus and the other without, and on that basis people infer a universal phosphorus shortage?
Given meta-materials, cameras, holographic panels and combinations thereof - offer the plausibility of creating a means of hiding an object across a wide band of the electro-magnetic spectrum? then an advanced civilization would have surely mastered such technology - ergo distance from an observer is irrelevant when it comes to hiding from that observer. Ergo there are probably invisible probes just hovering around in the atmosphere, watching football games, measuring the heights of trees etc
Wouldn’t it be great if alien watchers introduced themselves one day and showed us high def video of historic events like the napoleonic wars, early human civilizations, dinosaurs, etc.
Would pay large sums of alien money for an 8K VR video of the advance of the imperial guard at Waterloo
@@jonathansheridan9780 i'd pay a ton to see a super volcanic eruption, or the flood volcanism that caused the permian mass extinction, and the chicxulub impact
@william sands I think if we found the alien watchers, we’d then see that they weren’t built how history teaches they were built! It just doesn’t add up!
The birth and life of Jesus would suit me just fine
@@soulofjimi yep quite possibly...
I love that Arthur C. Clarke described the concept of his alien monoliths on our moon and around Jupiter as some kind of cosmic burglar alarm system to alert their builders as to when humankind had become clever enough to escape Earth and discover them.
And the Rama appeared to have a closer look , thing with Rama was that every thing that was inside was in threes for redundancy , another two to follow would not be surprising . May I suggest City and the Stars another of Clarkes classics and 2 me one of the most profound. Know comment is 9 months late but then again the Universe is somewhat of a large place.
The funny thing is that we can spend a lot of resources on guessing yet "they" might be here now but not fit into our conventional logical parameters and be completely undetectable or even unthinkable by our sensory frame.
psychedelic's may be a key for perception
Imagine if they were 4d somehow, i'd be basically impossible unless they for some reason went into the 3d realm, the thing we would see would be so distorted and just literally phase out of existence idk if it would even be useful info
Far enough in the future, tech would look like magic to us.
@@lorenzovillegas2457 okay Joe Rogan 😂
@@sgt.averyjohnson8395
Rogan didn’t start talking that shit until I mansplained him after taking a heroic dose of peptobismal.
Now joe is awake, and the rest is history
Imagine we actually found one of those probes. To the aliens it’s probably the same reaction we have when animals look straight into our hidden cameras, except more intense since we’d probably start dismantling it.
OMG thats exactly what the Alien Watcher said happened when he met Elon!! Said he stared at him didn't smile or anything and one eye twitched as he rolled a brain chip between his fingers! Alien Watcher said " I ran like hell!"
Ever heard of the black knight satellite? Worth a google search!
@@wildnhairyone1632 Those damn 5g brain chips will get you
@@user-nu2pj2ch7t Urban myth with no credible evidence to support its existence.
@@visassess8607 looking anytime for it but think I'm faster than he is
“The Lurkers” That would make a great title for an alien movie 👽
Definitely lol can’t wait till the world opens up about the extraterrestrials they’re in communication with on the regular
StarCraft movie
Hah,there was an old English punk band called the Lurkers too.
What would the rating be? 🤔
The floaters
the amount of money i’d pay to see an alien meme deciphered from their lack of vpn usage is laughable
Maybe, an alien race somewhere is receiving live feed of us from thousands of years ago. They're learning more about us, about our past, than we know ourselves.
Don't be surprised
If by "live feed" you mean chemical signature of our atmosphere at that time, then yes. Highly unlikely mind you, couple thousand years is too soon, and there are only milion or so stars in that thousand light years radius around us, though that might seem as much, chances of any complex, multicellular organisms, especially advanced civilization living on any of those worlds are pretty slim unfortunately
The bit i find more intriguing about long term alien surveillance of us is the prospect of them beaming the data back to us. Imagine seeing the full timeline of humans moving out of Africa.
They look here from 65 million light years away,see dinosaurs,f that place haha
Maby we are the aliens, maby our future self’s found a way to time travel 🧭 and it’s been us watching the whole time
As a lurker I'd like to say thanks for a very enjoyable video
Shh you’re not supposed to tell! I’ll tell our superiors masters!!
I consume a LOT of science content but this is some of the BEST! The script writing is elegant and simple. The logical outlay is perfectly formulated. The delivery entices a sense of calm wonder and reflection. This guy would be my nominee for a motivational speaker if your audience was too smart for dopes like Tony Robbins!
So then i watched Pinocchio and the Easter bunny come flying over the wall with Megatron and Thanos hot on their trail and let me tell you they looked pissed off!! Luckily, Peter Griffin and the chicken were having another epic battle and somehow our heroes escaped unharmed. Crazy right?! Oh yeah, and there were also secret aliens and stuff but don't tell anyone.
Anyone else remember when Dumbledore Calrissian did the Keebler run in 9.2 parseps?! I do, his passengers included Harry Baggins and Bilbo Potter and the ship was called the Enterprise. The personal vehicle options included the scooty puff senior for those who needed a little more room and also the scooty puff Junior for those in a sporty mood!! Merry Christmas everyone!!
‘Consuming’ content is an interesting idea
This is not science. This is speculative science fiction.
This is NOT "science content". This is "science fiction".
This was the smoothest VPN ad integration I've ever seen haha
Even the alien lurkers signed up for it!
@@ztrussell They're using it to make it look like they're monitoring us from the EU.
Yeah I nearly broke out in applause.
Yeah! I was wondering if it was going into a VPN ad before it became one, silky smooth.
Amazing as always. I'm working on my phD in a different field, and this channel keeps my childhood fascinations alive and reminds me to think in a scientific manner. Some of my favorite memories are looking at our moon through a backyard telescope with my dad when I was 7. He pointed the telescope at the street light and told me it was Jupiter 😂 great times.
Those are great memories, now a part of your life.
@@philschuler9674 Yes they are great, I was fortunate to have a family that raised me with a curiosity about the world :)
i went to college for something I didn't care about. Big mistake
And why did you have to say “ I’m working on my phD in a different field”??? Doesn’t make you look good by saying that makes you look like an argue clown trying to brag on something no one even cares about…
@@jlynchy156 calm down man
"Instead, we might discover, it is the journey itself that defines us who we are" I thought this was a great sentiment. I have always dreamed of other worlds and hope one day, before I die, that I will be able to observe one outside of a dream.
Dave has the best music and the best ASMR voice as I drift off into a relaxing place.
Thanks David.
I love your logical and concise approach to these types of topics. Your videos are very well put together and pleasingly educational. Thank you!
One of the few channels I support so I bought a shirt. Something about your work makes me feel depressed yet hopeful. And that's the beauty of your art. You make me feel. Thank you
Believe in the soul and life after physical death
13:20 HOLY SHIT! LMAO. That was the smoothest transition to an ad I have ever seen.
Answer to the title: Yes.
Zuckerberg is always watching.
Except... 😁
Yes,
It would be satisfying to see aliens kidnap Zuckerberg to probe him. Just so long as they don't return him.
Zuckerberg is a forgotten relic leftovers from cretaceous period.
@@tonyhawk123 Better watch your back or else he will abduct and then probes you
That's the smoothest transition from the subject to a sponsor I've ever seen. :D
With Dolphins we are starting to decode their language. Experimenters are building a map of their sonar emissions.
They are given objects of different shapes which they zap with their sonar. The echo signature is then recorded and then reinterpreted visually using software to create the shapes originally zapped. These sounds are then recreated and zapped back to new dolphins who have never seen these shapes or heard the echo signatures relating to them before, yet when they hear them, they go towards the object.
We are understanding now that Dolphins literally speak in 3D.
It is hoped that we can build enough of a database of sound and their corresponding shapes, to be able to combine elements of the sound signatures to create any shape. Conversely, it is hoped that we can record their chatter and visualise them to - literally - “see” what they’re saying to each other.
that's so fascinating!!!
One of the things that not many people know about the Star Trek canon is that dolphins were members of Starfleet :-)
Sources? This is interesting
@@blokin5039 why so rude
@@andura_1
A documentary on Curiosity Stream called Operation Doolittle
I think it’s important to begin taking into consideration that any alien technology that may be out there, may not operate the same way our tech does. It is plausible to assume that alien tech could be much more powerful even at a size of 10 cm. Just a thought.
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Maths is universal…
You watch to many marvel movies that hand wave bullshit and call it “alien/nano/quantum tech”
@@alandouglas2789 Any piece of technology sufficiently more advanced than we can understand or even dream of would seem like pure magic to us
@@seankelly378 True, but we have the capacity to understand it’s not magic and is technology
This man is a proper official scientist and he's giving us all this content and education for free. Outstanding.
Following in the footsteps of the great Carl Sagan, who got the ball rolling with his lifelong focus on public education.
Nothing is free, you still pay for your internet to see this video.
@@xjohnny1000 Pay for this right hook ya specky clown
When the notification pops up on my screen about a new CW video, I get excited and want to stop whatever I am up to. Especially when it is almost a half an hour one.
This one made me want to watch Start Trek series all over again.
Thank you for this cool episode once again. Cannot wait for the next one! Until then stay thoughtful and stay curious and of course live long🖖
I took 2 tabs of LSD back in 2017. I sat on my lawn chair in my backyard and watched the sunset and it was beautiful. I was 4 hours in and peaking hard. The sky was collidescoping into different shapes and colors. As the night sky set in the shapes faded and I started to notice a hexagonal energy grid appear slightly in the lower atmosphere. The more I watched the more vivid it became. Then out of nowhere I started to see UFOs flying in and out of view. It was the craziest moment of my life. There were so many of them and it was almost like I was looking at a structured outer space highway. They were organized, some stopped and flew down into our atmosphere than zipped off at an insane speed. It spooked me out. It was like they were admiring the view of our planet. I even saw a couple fly down and connect to the hexagon grid In the sky. It was like they were taping into the energy grid to charge their ships!!!! Man that was the most insane trip I ever had and changed my perspective on aliens and UFOs. I truly think they are advanced enough to cloak themselves and visit without us noticing unless they want us too. I also feel like psychedelics allows you to perceive them in different wavelengths!
We need to kick it, bro.
I really wanna try doing that under the stars sometime
Lol na bro it’s all in your head
@@nnoffuture sure it is. Just like YOUR entire existence………it’s all in your head.
@@nnoffuture It is quite possible too see in different wavelenghts in LSD’s u do know that your senses, eyes, ears, brains etc are 60%more active ”in use” at the trip mate ? Ofc there is no evidence that it is the case on the trip, but u just can not denie it’s possibility without the evidence.
Best video on YT yo go to sleep to. Dude your voice and diction is just so perfect for falling asleep to. Thank you!
Now I'm thinking about a type 3 civilization building a telescope array using the lensing effect of a black hole to observe the entire universe.
From the interferometric solution stand, it might be even insufficient in size, if I've understood well, have I?
No such thing as type 3 and never was or will be. Technology has hit its limits.
@@cobanus2862 what are its limits? and why do you think that those are the limits?
@@cobanus2862 What makes you think technology has hit its limits?
@@cobanus2862
Aren't u late 4 ur clothing optional drum circle session? Btw, if that's what u do with ur cob, don't invite me to dinner.
You know disclosure is coming soon when the alien videos include paid promotion...
They using amazon too🤤😆
Knowing that you know nothing is true wisdom.. cant see any wise ppl in this chat
@S. M. I belive exactly the same thing as you bro🤙 but I belive , we still dont know for sure.
@S. M. A healthy dose of scepticism is a good thing. Going, this thing is unexplained so it must be aliens, is not that. It's exactly the same line of thinking the religions are built on. What's the difference between you and a Christian? You can't "god of the gaps" stuff then tell everyone else they should question stuff more. It's one or the other.
Either people should question stuff more. Or they should believe the completely unprovable stuff you do. There is zero evidence that proves and of those things were aliens, or that any of those stories are even literally true. More likely they are a series of allegories and exaggerations that happened over time as those stories were passed down over the centuries.
What if aliens have a UA-cam channel? 🤣
Who’s to say a given alien species has eyes and uses light as information and if they did, they may have ways to watch us that we can’t even imagine with advanced technology that to us, is indistinguishable from magic as Clarke said.
This is a good argument.
@cool worlds - what are your thoughts about aliens being able to observe in other formats? Just as we are now just beginning gravitational observation, maybe aliens have advanced it, mastered observation of other types of energy or fields? Neutrinos, dark matter, other force carriers that we don’t even know about that convey much more information than ‘electromagnetic’ energy.
@@laz001 you dont know how the @ function works, do you?
@@nom6758 lol, not a clue
You bring up an essential point not covered adequately in this video.
@@michaelskywalker3089 cheers Michael. I’ve just always thought that judging an alien species using our own biological standards could be a tad “pre-Copernican” if that makes sense.
Thank you for a very reasoned and thoughtful examination of this subject. Excellent video !
That must be one of the smoothest, most seamless slides into the video's sponsor :)
I believe the marketing technique is called "product placement".
The aliens are watching you… just like you can be watching your army take over everything in RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!
Whether you're alien or human... Manscaped has got you covered...
@@Titanic_Tuna LOL! Although the asexual tarantula-prawns from Proxima Centauri may stare at the ball deodorant in complete bafflement.
And when your looking at the moon, Rosetta Stone can help you learn any other language you wish to learn
The only channel I watch when I'm bored. You turned science into live art! Fan for life 👌🏿
Maybe you would like David Butler too
Alien: how did you find us?
Human: uh... we're quite as shocked as you are... we just thought this was an asteroid.... and decided to go mine it
Avatar much
@@rodneyginokc avatar was based on our disgusting human ways, so yeah that’s totally possible 🥴🤣🤡
Once again, an absolutely amazing production
Thank you for enriching my life.
The calmness in your voice makes the lesson even more inviting🙌
I aspire to be a part of your team one day.
Oooo he liked your comment. You better do your best now - go for it.
It sure does.
He has a voice made for the telly. Shame about the face! Just kidding. Wouldn't be out of place presenting science documentaries on the beeb. We need more Brian Cox's to advance the public understanding of science.
@@nikolaydimitrov7701 Sure Buddy!
Me too. I would love to work with him. My personal opinion is: he is second best Science communicator after Carl Sagan
I once asked Seth Shostak about the possibility of detecting an object of alien origin on the moon. He said that sure, we have a vast trove of photos. But there’s a lack of money to pay a dedicated staff to look through them. Just having the photos doesn’t mean having an answer. Sounds like a potential citizen science project to me.
I can see that going awry really fast.
@@peterkelley6344 It'll be the face on mars all over again
You wouldn't have to pay a staff. Thousands would volunteer for free amd simply work from home in their spare time.
I get so hyped when I see a new Cool Worlds post! Thank you Kipping and crew! Hope you all have a wonderful weekend! Stay curious
I gave up on this at 2:22 with statement that the planet is "probably more than a thousand times smaller than that." Of course, this is impossible. If it were one time smaller, it wouldn't exist. No matter what unit of measurement you use, size - size = 0. So size - 1000 x size = what, -999 x size?
I'd imagine that the mission of a Lurker would change with time. Presuming they caught our bio and tech signatures around the industrial revolution and were able to get a probe here in time, they could observe us in high detail for quite some decades and watch as we build our space exploration to the point where they might be detected. Then they might move far enough away to prevent that while still being able to monitor our electromagnetic signatures and watch us grow into a space faring species - since they'd already be here. Being unable to "read" those transmissions does not mean you cannot glean information from them.
Unless another test site took up their attention and we were relegated to a backup site of study?
Weird fantasy you have there.
Or...they are waiting...waiting for us to reach a level of advancement that may challenge them if left unattended for a couple of decades / centuries, at which point, they would act immediately to prevent such a situation
@@Chris.Davies ?
Or maybe, humans really are not that advanced or interesting enough, so that nobody would ever bother.
Dr. Kipping, you are a genius, an excellent story--teller and focus on physics regarding amazing topics! Love your channel and thank you so much for sharing your immense knowledge with us! All the best in your future work!
So then i watched Pinocchio and the Easter bunny come flying over the wall with Megatron and Thanos hot on their trail and let me tell you they looked pissed off!! Luckily, Peter Griffin and the chicken were having another epic battle and somehow our heroes escaped unharmed. Crazy right?! Oh yeah, and there were also secret aliens and stuff but don't tell anyone.
Anyone else remember when Dumbledore Calrissian did the Keebler run in 9.2 parseps?! I do, his passengers included Harry Baggins and Bilbo Potter and the ship was called the Enterprise. The personal vehicle options included the scooty puff senior for those who needed a little more room and also the scooty puff Junior for those in a sporty mood!! Merry Christmas everyone!!
@@lescobrandon6369 bot shit!
@@lescobrandon6369 man what
@@Durcy exactly lol 😆
It is possible, though. Much older civilizations might have technology incomprehensible for us in our current state of development. Might be something like trying to explain a stoneage person how a cellphone works. Who knows what technology they own?
Exactly, we simply have no way of knowing what technology they have and are using. Maybe they are here watching us already, but are invisible to us
@@Razmatazuk indeed. We tend to imagine older alien civilizations owning the technology we expect to achieve in a near future. But their technology could be indistinguishable from magic already. In a way that things we imagine being impossible, like faster than light travel, might be basic technology for them.
@@TVaz7777 xenoblade😊
It would literally take 15 minutes to explain “Stone Age man” what cellphone is. You idiots think that anatomically modern humans from Stone Age were bumbling idiots. Before you know it Stone Age man would be glued to cellphone watching Tik Tok videos of dogs and booty twerking.
I don't believe in infinite technology advancement. We are already near the peak of what is possible in technology. Your cellphone are already using materials only several atoms thick to store information. There is a physical limit to technology and the ceiling above us is not very high. There is not much room for improvement beyond single atom transistor.
That transition from vid to sponsor was seamless. Well done.
These are interesting toughs. The problem with this kind of speculation is that we are all guilty of the same bias. When we try to imagine what a supposed alien civilization might or might not do, we tend to restrain ourselves to our current understanding of the laws of physics. Yet, the fathers of general relativity and quantum physics have taught us that our comprehension of these laws (and more broadly of the nature of reality) at any given time is partial. There most certainly is way more to physics and to the nature of the Universe than we know, or even than we can imagine.
Let's say that there is at least one alien civilization in the Universe being aware of our existence. They might be thousands of years ahead of us, if not more. I don't think there is any way at all we could speculate what they are capable of and what they know about the laws of the nature that we totally ignore.
It's nice to let our minds wander and try to rationalize, but when it comes to hypothetical alien civilizations, we should stay very humble about what we know and what we don't know. There is way more of the latter than of the former.
Totally correct. This video put humanity in the place of an alien civilization that sends a satellite to a foreign planet with the expectation of being unseen.
Yes, exactly!!
lmao redditor
and dont forget that just as aliens could be millions of years ahead of us they could also just as easily be millions of years behind us. Its not unlikely that we are the first life form to have advanced this far. Maybe all thats out there right now are simplistic microorganisms.
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This is amazing. I could just sit here and listen to this all day long.
Mind if i recommend my fellow Science-Fans
some Stuff?
Science or just Education in General or even just Fun in General?
@@slevinchannel7589 huh
When we look at the stars we are like gold fishes looking outside of the aquarium
@Eric Klyne nice that you perfectly understand whats going on in the univers. Congratulations !
We are only at the very beginning of exploring the universe. So yeah, goldfish is what we are at the moment.
Good morning, Goldie.
@Eric Klyne don’t be
Imagine there are aliens but like fish and humans, we can’t perceive them 💭
Tears at the end.. really. Thank you.. please never stop
The one problem I have with this - completely as a devil's advocate - is the anthropic bias inherent to our visible wavelengths of light. We see such a small fraction of the electromagnetic spectrum that it's truly amazing, but we assume that other creatures in far-off places have evolved optics in the same way.
But, well, we only have this tiny sample size. Which is really why we're all watching these videos. Keep up the awesome work, David. Thank you!
“The journey itself defines who we are . . .” Yes.
Love that you started the video with a scene from Lynch’s “a straight story”
I’m reading a sci-fi book atm that deals with this exact subject. They even called it a “lurker” and it’s on the moon. Coincidence for sure.
What is the title of that book?
13:00 transition to sponser was so smooth I really thought you are still talking about alien privacy
I sometimes just look outside my window. Through the blinds sometimes, other times I do it with them dragged. I stare at the moon, its bright surface shinning through the clouds, and the moonlight reflecting on the ground and everything around me. It's beautiful to just stare at our Luna, and just imagine thousands of things, extraterrestrial life, the vastness of the universe, the lifespan of humanity and its evolution, etc. Its fascinating to me, by not only looking at this special beautiful rock, but at the stars, as well. It gives this sense of existential dread, and 'its alright' feeling. Knowing that what we do here om Earth, does absolutely nothing to the universe, is terrifying, but we can live out our lives in a good, happy way, which gives me a sense of belonging. Whatever is out there, I wouldn't be scared if it, I would welcome it.
Gotta love the extra mile Cool Words scripts always go to when folding in material from their sponsor. It often truly does feel organic and if I was an advertiser, I'd be very happy with that sort of 'embedding' of the brand.
Once upon a time, when the world was new to me, I was told a strange story by a young lady. I wish I had asked more questions, but that's the difference between being 19 an being 70, then my interest was more in her and my chances of a fling than in hearing the tale. 🙄
In short, her father, who was a government bean counter, of all things, had found a paper trail to just this idea. It seems the leaders of Earth are willing to spend a lot of $$$ to find a group they call "the leftovers".
The moon race of the 60s was really between the US and the USSR to (covertly?) look for tech from this group. And if you're looking for hints of a bunch you call "Leftovers" on the moon, then aliens are implied.
True? Not true? Who knows now, all I have is a smudgy memory of disappointment that the night never evolved (devolved?) to the level of pleasure.
And then this post jogs my memory. 😳
poetic and intriguing...
thank you.
I think they hope they find some advanced tech that would give them a advantage its very unlikely and not the main reason they went to space but if they can find something from a advanced civilization it really could change everything so its something they really wish for.
This voice...helps me drift off to sleep when the world has been to chaotic 🙏
Neat !! When I was a teenager I would pretend to be a" Lurker" around my neighborhood. Peeking in windows at night and taking the odd item from clothes lines. They said I was a weirdo but who's laughing now ? I'm even gonna get my attorney to demand they change the language of my charges to " Lurking" , sounds cooler than " stalking" and way more accurate. Gotta run , it's getting dark.🛡🤠⚔😚
I actually find this pretty encouraging. Sure, we aren't ever going to be able to remotely image individual alien organisms, but being able to image large collections of organisms (the alien equivalent of forests or even massive algal blooms) seems like it will be possible eventually.
If we were to look for "Lurkers" I would say the moon is a great place to start. If something goes wrong for the "Lurkers" there are resources close by and it is easier to repair something on the moon than something in orbit, nor do I think it would be difficult to hide something like that on the moon. If anyone has the technology to send something to another solar system, then it is probably also reasonable to assume that they have come a long way with AIs. An AI would probably decide to hide itself when thinking that there is a changes it could be discovered, to protect itself and its mission.
I do not quite think you have thought this concept all the way to the end, because what I have suggested here is by no means unreasonable, and just because we've photographed the moon in HD resolution, then it's probably only a very small percentage that those images anyone's ever looked at, and even then it is not difficult to hide.
I think your conclusion is based on a bias, since NOBODY has EVER looked for a "Lurker" so there is in literally no data to come to that conclusion on.
There are no physical laws that prevent there from being a "Lurker" so the conclusion must necessarily be,
We do not know, we need more data.
What should we look for if we were looking for "Lurkers" on the Moon? How large would it be? The entire back side of the Moon could be one big huge installation and we would never know it. So what would they need to put on this side? They could have a thousand teeny tiny high-resolution cameras and we would not see a one unless we were right on top of it. They could have nearly microscopic cameras in orbit and we would never find them even if we knee they were there, and exactly what to look for.
@@littlemrpinkness295 We know what the dark side of the moon looks like. We've taken pics of it. We haven't been there in a long time though.
I’m more inclined to believe in motherships rather than bases. But who knows. I believe these ufos we see come from a mothership or base nearby. Most people talk about the ufos just having chairs inside. Those are the scout ships. A mothership could easily be anywhere in space. Ever hear of the Ariel school encounter in Ruwa Zimbabwe? An alien made contact with kids via telepathy. Thats my fav
@@muskodine See?
This is very possible as the hollow moon theory could suggest this.
Remember that Von Braun crashed the first and third lunar modules on the Moon's surface and one rung like a bell for 10 to 15 minutes and the third module which was 3x heavier had the crash gonged basically for an hour.
Now this was just in one area of 5 miles (radius) which only suggests that the immediate area has some subsurface structure to it but the rest of the moon has not been explored so this is a limited sample of the unusual find.
Thanks you for the video, Professor. Your statement about Omomura got me thinking, that a space probe would most likely be set to tumble to do a full sky survey, any sensor system could be gimbled and paired, which leads to a thought. Maybe a method for detecting visiting probes would be to analyse the rates of rotation of any interesting objects and see if it fits a pattern that would meet the needs of a full sky survey? That sounds like an easy win as getting that data on asteroids is pretty useful in itself anyway.
the tidally locked surface of the moon facing us would be a great spot for say 3 camouflaged mini telescopes working with interferometry and spaced over almost the whole diameter of the moon
Sir: Thank you so very much for all of your very intelligent videos.
Thanks for giving us another superb video expanding our personal understanding and horizons. I’ve been fascinated by these questions since I was a child, and your explanations and delivery are top notch!
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Thank you for letting me hear your thoughts on such an intriguing topic. What a great way to start the weekend!
What about an atmospheric alien device, which orbits within our atmosphere? Maybe they use a different propulsion system that works very efficient - recent event have shown us that even the US Airforce didn't know about everything in our airsprace. But for telescopes outside our atmosphere I don't see a way either. Awesome Video :)
Wish your content was on Spotify, I could learn while keeping fit. Please keep up the good work👍
You can listen to youtube. The app will continue to play even when the screen is off. I have android so maybe it's different for iOS.
Dr Kipping. I really enjoy your videos and have alot of admiration and respect for everything you post. You discuss or present everything with factual data to back it up. If your uncertain, you give your best educated guess based on data available and most of all you let viewers know. You don't blurt out nonsense that you believe in and make viewers believe it to be real when it's not. I can go on and on but I'm just want to say thanks for being a cool dude with a level head that's down to earth and most of all for being real. Gotta go.
I appreciate your dissection of the optical requirements in this scenario. I have to say I certainly wondered when I saw the title of this video! Great info and perspective, as usual.
The operative part here is "to the best of our knowledge". The defining issue here is that a truly advanced civilisation would run circles around our knowledge. Cheers
Thank you for making such amazing content! Keep it up!
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@@CoolWorldsLab if there were alien visitors that aren't terrified of how we portray them in media, I expect they would lurk mostly on things like Reddit and Twitter these days.
This is something (viewing aliens via telescopes) I’ve wondered for a long time, great video 👍
Resolution available to tumbling Oumuamua: I think Oumuamua was just a rock. However, if it WERE an advanced probe, tumbling might be to its advantage. By taking multiple "images" as it tumbled, it could have an effective disk diameter equal to it's length, rather than just its static surface area.
Rock makes an effective and cheap shielding. Tumbling helps with slingshoting off dense objects for speed boosting and breaking.
If oumoumou was a probe it wasnt passing through here just to image us. It would've had another mission it was working on or going somewhere for.
The Drake Equation should be under constant revision. Seems the more research that's gathered, the less we can be certain of extra-terrestrial life by many factors - and that certainty is exponentially lessened again by those factors we have yet to even consider.
So interesting and well explained of the difficulties in seeing the surface of other planets. I enjoy my imagination of what is out there and that is good enough for me.
I would assume effective stealth (not like, current airplane stealth of The Expanse version of it) would not be that hard for any group that can put stuff here to take a little for a long while. Like, think of a high-end version of soldiers putting on the correct colored outfit and being stealth-ed to wildlife that is close by. I am sure with our own tech, ignoring cost and other reality specific to humans in 2020-ish, you could hide plenty on the light side of the moon, in plain sight.
Maybe. There's nothing preventing us imaging the moon with significantly higher resolution than we already have besides cost, though. If we decided to image the moon with 10cm resolution rather than 100m resolution, it'd be extremely hard to hide anything.
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They wouldn't have to leave their system to watch and potentially listen to us...VLBI technology and extremely powerful computers would suffice...
Thank you for another wonderful video professor! And thanks to everyone at cool worlds lab as well !
I think the "black knight" is one of the "probes" monitoring our planet for thousands of years. Seeing how it emits a translatable frequency as well! Hummm! This is awesome! Thanx for the upload
"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"
We haven't found anything that proves that they visited our solar system. But who knows what we'll find.
The absence of evidence is absolutely the evidence of absence. It's not PROOF of absence, but it is 100% the evidence of absence. How do we know that there isn't a race of giant humans living in the Sahara desert? Because there is no evidence to suggest that there is.
@@righty-o3585 We should expect to find evidence of advance alien races on space... Even on our solar system... What is absolutely intriguing is that we haven't found anything yet. And Actually you are wrong .. absence of evidence still not evidence of absence.. and there's nothing not scientific about it... So far we don't have a reason to believe we have such objects on our solar system... But it doesn't mean we shouldn't look for them.
@@randomlabs1784 we should find evidence of alien races in our solar system ? Says who? And why does everybody assume that an alien race will be more advanced than us? It's just as likely that we are the advanced race. Like I said, absence of evidence isn't PROOF of absence, but it is EVIDENCE of absence. We've been looking for evidence for bigfoot, and the loch Ness monster, but we haven't found any, and that suggests that they don't exist. We've been looking for alien life and we haven't found any. Which suggests that they don't exist. Or that they are so far away that it wouldn't make any difference that they do exist. Because we would NEVER be able to communicate with them in any way. Do I believe that alien life exists? Yes I do. I also believe that they are so far away from us that it makes no difference, because we will never be able to reach each other
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@@CD-SOI Want to try that again in English?
While I appreciate a fairly thorough analysis through our current levels of technology, since we're talking about "alien lurkers" and satellites, and posing "what if" questions, I'm left feeling a little bit disappointed that the only rumoured alien satellite, the "black knight satellite" didn't even get a mention here.
yeah, I was waiting for that too
@@AlwaysPim Mind if i recommend my fellow Science-Fans
some Stuff?
Science or just Education in General or even just Fun in General?
I didn’t anticipate much interest in that as it’s been long debunked as a thermal blanket
@@CoolWorldsLab Ok... but what about my comment?
@@slevinchannel7589 you can if you want. You don't need permission
I think that if they have found a way to get close enough to us to take a "picture" they would have already moved beyond using lenses. I'm imagining they would have something like a reverse laser, something that is able to gather photons extremely precisely, Something else, do they even have eyes that see light in the same spectrum that we do? Do they even perceive and process light in the same way?
Any alien technology that would be able to monitor or interact with us would be so far beyond our understanding because the civilization that created it would be FAR beyond where we are technologically.. like, thousands, millions or even billions of years ahead of us.. AND the beings that created it could've followed a much different evolutionary path that we don't even recognize them as lifeforms.
Are they even on the same plane of existence as we are, what all do we know about what defines intelligence or thought? There is still so much to learn about the universe and we are still debating things like how matter works and operates.
They communicate with psychedelics.
@@remiscott7759 That's pure speculation. An interesting thought and idea that I think deserves extensive research but unfortunately things of that nature are not well understood yet.
Haha it's interesting that he says "fleet" at 23:26. Reminds me of that pentagon video where the pilot is saying "there's a whole fleet of them!"
Just came across this channel. I love the format, I love the presentation, I love the content!
Already 3 deep in, and looking forward to more!
Thank you to the Cool Worlds team! :)
I found this channel yesterday and have been binge watching all the videos
It's not unfathomable that there could be alien nanobots in low orbit around the earth. Space is so big there are innumerable spaces that an alien civilization could hide their deep space satellites. A civilization which is a billion years ahead of us may have technologies that is beyond our wildest imagination.
Agreed and just looking at how much we've progressed in just the last 30 years and its not unfathomable to think we'd reach that sort of level ourselves provided we dont wipe ourselves out over the next million or so years.
@@stevel9627 - I think our main issue is that when we consider these possibilities, we are thinking like humans. I mean this is a given because it's all we know how to think like but hear me out... We are living by a concept that "well that technology simply wouldn't work, we couldn't do that therefore nothing else can"
Just because humans can't make a telescope that's tiny and has insane resolution capabilities doesn't mean a 4 billion year old civilisation couldn't.
With age comes advancements, and compared to even a 5 million year old species, they could be twice as advanced as us.. now compare us go a 5 billion year old species, humans are merely in the infantile stages at best.
I wanted to ask about the possibility of a cloaking system that we may just not understand. The amount of questions, that really my imagination was running with went wild.
You're experiencing what's known as "fantasy".
@@Chris.Davies okay mr reality. Explain detail to detail why it would not be possible? Ill be waiting
@@Chris.Davies This entire thing is speculative. And black paint isn't very fantasy. They painted the fucking SR71 in radio absorbing paint in the 60s my guy, you really think cloaking a probe with the intention to observe and not to interfere is "fantasy"?
Shit man that would literally be the goal if they don't want civilizations to be influenced by them. It's what we do with ghillie nets in the forest to take photos of tigers. Do you really think it's far-fetched, at least compared to other ideas presented?
Once again, Cool Worlds has rendered my mind "blown" 🤯. Kia ora cuzzies 👍
They are and have been watching, much more than that. I was gifted or something like that in 2017 for about 10 days. During that time I was allowed to see and feel our world as it really is. I know this sounds crazy, but it unlocked my mind. During that time I functioned normally, but my mind was in a fog, I finally asked out loud (by myself) for clarity and woke up in the morning mentally sharp, but the "feeling" was gone. And I dearly missed it. I can only describe it as (corny as it sounds) unconditional love.
Mental illness be like
Satori 🙏🏻
That’s called LSD. Lay off the drugs kiddo
can you explain more? how did you feel? what did you feel? how did you achieve that?
Don't do drugs, kids.
Thank you Dave for such an insightful video addressing the possibilities of seeing and being seen. The future will be amazing.
Imagine this hypothetical scenario where our radiocommunications use the specific wavelengths which are naturally audible to an alien civilization, and they just refer to earth as that "obnoxious shrieking planet"
planet of the karens'
many ancient stories do tell of exactly such a scenario. Enki or Enlil( I forget which and couldn't care less who is who anymore) supposedly said exactly this about earth. So fucking obnoxious. So god damn loud. All their thoughts echoing into the depths like brainless zombies chattering with themselves. An endless stream of genetically embedded fear responses subconsciously triggering subconscious reactions, cascading forward in time like ripples on a pond, yet with no center, and no stone to be found suggesting an intelligence anywhere. Just soulless, genetically selected neural networks, suffering in unison. Alone.
Every idea you've ever come into contact was fed to you from "the outside." Whatever identity you still cling to wrapped up in your prefrontal cortex that your parents have named and that your ego refuses to relinquish, the entire game, the entire world, all of it, was given to you. You did not create any of it. Inside or out. You inhabit a technologically advanced wetsuit designed to imprison and punish your consciousness. You are a prisoner. Nothing you do will ever matter. You repeat everything you hear, combinatorically obfuscating your plagiarism like a child playing with legos, using bricks they did not create, and copying their older siblings until becoming bored and losing interest. You claim ownership of it, beaming with unearned pride. Fuck every last human.
many ancient stories do tell of exactly such a scenario. Enki or Enlil( I forget which and couldn't care less who is who anymore) supposedly said exactly this about earth. So fucking obnoxious. So god damn loud. All their thoughts echoing into the depths like brainless zombies chattering with themselves. An endless stream of genetically embedded fear responses subconsciously triggering subconscious reactions, cascading forward in time like ripples on a pond, yet with no center, and no stone to be found suggesting an intelligence anywhere. Just soulless, genetically selected neural networks, suffering in unison. Alone.
Every idea you've ever come into contact was fed to you from "the outside." Whatever identity you still cling to wrapped up in your prefrontal cortex that your parents have named and that your ego refuses to relinquish, the entire game, the entire world, all of it, was given to you. You did not create any of it. Inside or out. You inhabit a technologically advanced wetsuit designed to imprison and punish your consciousness. You are a prisoner. Nothing you do will ever matter. You repeat everything you hear, combinatorically obfuscating your plagiarism like a child playing with legos, using bricks they did not create, copying their older sibling's designs until becoming bored and losing interest without ever once contributing an original thought. You claim ownership of it, beaming with unearned pride.
@@disabledchatzen5276 you're assuming that other civilizations would be able to receive those transmissions. absolutely no guarantee that they even perceive anything at that frequency. Even if they can, why assume it may be some bothersome noise to them? for all we know it could be their equivalent to a choir of angels.
seriously, if you hate your own species that much, take yourself out of the gene pool. last thing humanity needs is more nihilists that want to see others die.
edit: Misanthropy is not a virtue.
@@disabledchatzen5276 that’s really well put, it’s like something that would’ve come from Alan Watts. What is this ancient story about?
I feel asleep listening to this. Great content + a relaxing voice.
There's at least one question to the thought train I can ask.
Must the aliens use an optical wavelength for their imaging?
Even many native animals on Earth have their senses beyond optical range.
No. They don't have to, and therefore, they must not.
@@samr.england613 I mean, even in famous movies like The Predator, the 👽 use EM ranges different from our visible light for their vision.
Damn, you beat me to it. I only see one issue and that's the biological limitations on a visible spectrum. No alien will see in radio, for example, and we're radio invisible anyway. It goes right through us.
I doubt the most extreme vision on earth could make much difference either. Butterflies have the widest visible spectrum, so someone can check that.
Mantis Shrimp can differentiate the most colors. They have like 16 different color receptors or something.
@@urphakeandgey6308 how the hell do you know? 🙂 There could be aliens out there with eyes the size of dinner plates who see somewhere in the radio spectrum. Bats on Earth use sonar, so why not?
Well, seems like the aliens home star system would need to be within 100 light years or so for us to peak their curiosity and make sending a probe feasible.
*pique their curiosity
What are the actual chances of intercepting a narrow beam transmission between two craft at unknown locations in the solar system?
Slim??
6:20 "the animals... produce such a POULTRY number of photons"
Nice ;)
The older I get realizing how little I know... Could you imagine being some of the first humans on earth, not even knowing what stars were. Quite scary if ya think about it, not knowing stars just knowing so so little about everything.
Can you imagine how many people ate poison & learned to survive through death?
Thanks for this latest video. Great stuff. These subjects seem far fetched but always trigger new ideas and questions. What a time to be alive! Will you do something on the JWST after it is launched?
Dear Aliens, if you are watching, please take over. We obviously cannot govern ourselves.
I'm not sure I understand the requirement that resolving individual beings on the planetary surface is any sort of necessity here. Seems to me resolving the surface to 20 or 30 meters (or even 500 meters) of planets all around the galaxy would be monumentally informative and fascinating. A picture of an alien city would be pretty satisfying to me. As noted in the vid, we humans are already working on sending tiny light sail probes to Alpha Centauri simply to flyby the planetary system and see what's there with no intention of trying to resolve critters crawling around the surface of those planets. I don't think big alien telescopes are likely to be evident all over the galaxy, but maybe small alien probes (like shoebox sized or smaller) could be.
Curiosity really is an amazing thing! And so is creativity in my opinion 😇
Cats. House cats.
Toxoplasmosis.
Maybe aliens don't need giant telescopes to observe us. They might have completely different sensory organs than us, which would lead them to having completely different technology built around their understanding of their surrounding, than what we think they may have.
I lean towards any other intelligent life being fairly similar to us than not. We are Soo massively unique in the galaxy that we know and beyond. It's hard to imagine another intelligent being not just being real but but incredibly different with their sensory organs.
@@JM-wf2to I don't think it's hard to imagine at all, given that they would have evolved under very different circumstances on a world very different from our own.
No. There’s a reason animals like apes could become higher intelligence and others cannot
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