A friend of mine is a close talker, although he's really a nice guy, he always gets waaay to close to you when he's talking. And I have to slowly back away every time hahaha
This is really interesting, I've always wondered why no one really talks about the science of wanting our own personal bubble. I'm really glad I found this. It's also really amazing how he put that into cultural differences, because we learn the boundaries of personal space from a very young age.
It would be interesting to see how the size of the space and the number of people in it affects personal space. If I'm on a bus with only two other people, and a new passenger comes on and sits right next to me, that is way weirder than if the bus is crowded and there are no places to sit that aren't close to someone.
1) Personal Space 2) Personal Space 3) Stay out of my Personal Space 4) Keep away from my Personal Space 5) Get outta dat Personal Space 6) Stay away from my Personal Space 7) Keep away from dat Personal Space 8) Personal Space 9) Personal Space
We do find it uncomfortable to have our personal space invaded, but there are exceptions to these that I find intriguing. Such as when we ride public transportation like the subway.
I guess that it has to do on wether you have a choice or not. In a nearly empty elevator you don't need to stand really close to each other. In this situation is can be considered invasive or even harassing. In a packed bus you don't really have a choice, a lot of people need to fit in so it's gonna be a bit crowed. If someone stands really close to you it's because they have to due to the lack of space. People can still feel uncomfortable in this situation but we're less likely to question the other persons intentions
Banana Party Ikr. That's the most intriguing part, I mean if we really need to get going that preservation of space is gone from our minds and we really don't feel uncomfortable next to one another. But I also thought, men even if we feel like we really need to pee so badly, if we notice that a free urinal is between two that are occupied, we would rather wait for one to leave and use that one instead. This time the personal space is more important and outweighs your immediate need for relief.
Nah, personal space applies on public transit as well - but as a share of available space. People accept standing shoulder to shoulder in a packed car because there really isn't any other option - but if someone gets on and you are the only other rider, and they walk all they way up to you and sit down in the seat next to you - HUGE violation of personal space.
That's because it's understood that people will be sitting, standing, passing close to other people. So our 'personal bubble' is much closer to being just our own body. You would still feel your space had been invaded if someone held their hand or fingers pointing very close to your face or under your chin, for example, but not if someone was holding an overhead handle/bar and * happened * to have their hand close to your head.
Do different cultures have different comfort levels of proxemics? Where I live there is a large Hispanic population and I've noticed a lot of closeness that makes me super uncomfortable. For example someone will sit next to me instead of the next seat over on a bus or movie theater seat. Oftentimes while standing in line at any store I have to spread myself out because someone will be close to touching me with their cart or body. Cracked should follow this up with a video about proxemics in different cultures.
Yes, they do. For example, normal speaking distance for Germans is roughly an arm's length or more, and there's no touching. Only couples hold hands. In Arab countries, personal space between men and men and women and women is much reduced but higher between different sexes, and it is common for men to hold hands. Southern cultures will touch even relative strangers a lot while talking, while Northerners don't ever do that. And holding hands is really common among women in Asia. Not doing so as a friend is a signal that you don't like them as much as they thought, so they take issue. Also, public displays of affection between even married couples are uncommon across much of Asia and in most Arabic countries. Here's an example. www.thenational.ae/self-emiratisation-cultures-are-poles-apart-on-personal-space-1.362732
@@miriamearthling4107 thank you for sharing this. I am currently in a communications class that is expanding on this very topic. This is extremely helpful! Thank you again!
We Brazilians have a hard time "respecting" someone's personal space. It was hard for me to adapt to Americans because the of this huge cultural difference.
I think your sense of cultural space might be culturally defined too. Ever noticed how people queue up for an atm in thailand? People almost touch each other, while here in holland an arms length distance is what we feel comfortable with. Ever noticed how Finnish people queue up for e.g. the bus? They stand about 4 meters apart it seems
+Navadra Froohar while psychology is a pseudoscience, and a lot of knowledge is technically pseudoscience, but despite the negative connotations it has, pseudoscience is no less valid or important, there just different. Science disprooves and pseudoscience prooves.
Navadra Froohar Psychology IS a pseudoscience, people just have a false definition of the word. My father and mother are psychotherapists and they themselves admitted that it is a pseudoscience. In psychology for example, you can find lots and lots of correlations, someone is insecure by a lack of hugs or because they were hugged too much. But for example Einstein, instead of finding the thousands of things to prove his theories, he only tried to find ways to disprove it. You can make lots of predictions that happen to be right based on pseudosciences, but that does not mean that the thing in question is the only reason for the result.
So what is sneaking into and hovering around someone's personal space called? That's a thing too based on my own experience. Or intentionally violating someone's personal space and acting like it's by accident? Also all too common. And how does staring factor into this?
Make fun all you want. Who's more pathetic, the one that's "insecure" or the one that spends time going out their way to aggravate others insecurities? I'd say the later.
Many who chose anthropology are like that. Want to be many things. Many prominent anthropologists are graduates from other disciplines. Franz Boas, Leslie White, James G Fraser, Levi Strauss...
Congrats. Someone took careful notes in their Nonverbal communication class. But without the context of cultural norms, differences in cultural norms and how we negotiate breeches in those norms this would barely get you a pass in a Nonverbal midterm. Different context change the expectations and the rules of proxemics. Two people in an elevator expect a different amount of personal space than ten people in the same elevator. In cultures where there is most stratification of class, race or gender different rules are in play compared to environments with similar class, race, gender. Even how we treat someone who breeches these rules is different. Think about how we regard a space hog especially on a subway of bus that fills up. It's only 4 minutes but you could do a better job on proxemics than a History of segment.
Rahsaan Footman I will admit, when I read the first line of your comment I thought wow someone is being oddly upset about this and then I kept reading and I was like wow why didn’t they touch on any of that in the video way to go internet stranger 👍👍👍👍👍
I believe this video is strictly to show the different spaces defined in a general sense, so as to help you understand the pure basics of the study. To go into more detail regarding cultures, in-group, out-group, coculture, etc, would make for a very long video that takes away from the introduction of how the spaces came to be defined. They do not expand on the differences of how space is invaded, because that is something that should be shared in a separate video. I do hope they post such a video though, because that is a super fascinating explanation on how we interact with other people! Excellent take away you have here, thank you for sharing!
Take note of people's expressions when you get to close - so you don't become a close talker. On the other hand, if you are a boss, then stepping into another person's space to give them an order really delivers the message and pushes them to say yes, quickly, so they can have their space back.
So i work in a cubical without separators, my colleagues to my left and right are about 4 feet away from me, now i know why i feel uncomfortable working there, they are technically in my personal space.
Because although Edward T. Hall quantified aspects of personal space, the video didn't elaborate on how we can use the information to make any sort of predictions. Science is a tool that allows us to measure, predict, and control aspects of our natural world (e.g., physics and gravity, chemistry and atoms, behaviorism and behavior). This video doesn't sound sciencey because none of the information was shown to be used in a way to allow us to predict any sort of relationship. Sure there are correlations between certain levels of personal space and the relationship those two people have, but clearly there are outliers, so it doesn't allow us to predict with certainty. My question is: How much of these personal space levels are completely cultural and can be changed overtime, and how much is embedded in our biology?
If the video had gone on longer it would've noted that hall came up with proxemics, in part to describe the differing personal space bubbles of people and cultures across the world. This is much closer to a system of measurement than it is a theory of social interaction. Having this system allows you to study human social interactions without having to whip out your thesaurus and try your hand at poetry (they sat so close they could feel the fire of passion burning in each other's eyes). In the same way, that being able to measure kilograms means we never have to say " it was super heavy, bigger than a horse but smaller than a small house"
The video just described what is proxemic. This is to make social situations quantifiable for research purposes. You may have to read about about psychometric to understand the bigger picture.
My personal rule is 3+ feet between me and a person I don't know. I start to have a panic attack when the person behind me in the checkout line stands very close to me. I've wondered if it's just a cultural difference.
+Skopar Weaver I can sympathize with impatience. I like to take care of business and use time efficiently. I still have anxiety about strangers being too close.
Watch the way a large row of urinals are used in a men's public bathroom (e.g. Yankee Stadium during the 7th inning stretch). Which one does the first man take. When a second man arrives, which urinal does he chose. When a third man arrives which one does he choose relative the the two occupied urinals. There is nothing worse than arriving last and having to take the only one available between two occupied ones. A study in personal space. Do women have the same pattern when occupying stalls?
I see no real problem in people learning to use the proxemics system to describe a situation, if that is what you mean. It is just a notation system. Maybe useful sometimes, I don't know. It would be like someone learning a language, a very small and rarely used language. The problem with many gender studies is that much of it is very political and often not anchored in science, unlike other social sciences or psycology. A notation system can surely be political, but this seems very harmless.
Actually, they already teach this in college, although it's not so technical. If you're a communication major, you learn how space and other non-verbal communication influence how people interact with each other. Which, if your job needs you to have strong communication skills, it's something good to know.
Wow, it's so nice to see that your 3 twins found time to join you in this video.
Gasp! Walter White! I thought you did great in Breaking Bad
Did you just say 3 twins?
Nyang Ruot You're goddamn right!
+Walter White
Yes!
wait! how can you have 3 twins?
I'm sick of this skin in my personal space, I'm taking it off
Definitely a Rick and Morty reference
first thing i thought, when i read the headline :D
interdemsional cable 2
WUBBA LUB DUB DUB
One personal space.
Two personal space.
Three, get away from my personal space.
I don't like this skin in my personal space. *tears off skin*
Rick and Morty!Love it haha
Haha why youuuuuuu
We learnt this in theatre - it's actually incredibly useful to work out your place in a room/set/scene in relation to the objects and characters in it
Even perfectly normal elevator rides are awkward
A friend of mine is a close talker, although he's really a nice guy, he always gets waaay to close to you when he's talking. And I have to slowly back away every time hahaha
This is really interesting, I've always wondered why no one really talks about the science of wanting our own personal bubble. I'm really glad I found this. It's also really amazing how he put that into cultural differences, because we learn the boundaries of personal space from a very young age.
It would be interesting to see how the size of the space and the number of people in it affects personal space. If I'm on a bus with only two other people, and a new passenger comes on and sits right next to me, that is way weirder than if the bus is crowded and there are no places to sit that aren't close to someone.
1) Personal Space
2) Personal Space
3) Stay out of my Personal Space
4) Keep away from my Personal Space
5) Get outta dat Personal Space
6) Stay away from my Personal Space
7) Keep away from dat Personal Space
8) Personal Space
9) Personal Space
Woh Wooh! Who's around me right now?!
I'm in SSSPPPAAAAACCCEEEEE...!!!
P E R S O N A L S P A C E !!!!:0
Abrupt ending? Great video.
I love these studies which have a creative visual explanation or definition, like in Proximics
You should visit *Finland.*
We've made a new definition for the word *personal space.*
_(Doesn't apply on sauna tho.)_
My Northern European personal space got smaller when I started taking Xanax
You should visit Latin America, there's no such thing as personal space
My date's personal space was penetrated after I gave her some Xanax.
I really like this guy's face, he always looks so friendly
I like his face too.
@@cleocarter me too
i like his face. good face.
This is actually a theory applied in Interior Design and Architecture
Yes. Along with ergonomics and anthropometrics 😊
We do find it uncomfortable to have our personal space invaded, but there are exceptions to these that I find intriguing. Such as when we ride public transportation like the subway.
I guess that it has to do on wether you have a choice or not. In a nearly empty elevator you don't need to stand really close to each other. In this situation is can be considered invasive or even harassing. In a packed bus you don't really have a choice, a lot of people need to fit in so it's gonna be a bit crowed. If someone stands really close to you it's because they have to due to the lack of space. People can still feel uncomfortable in this situation but we're less likely to question the other persons intentions
Banana Party Ikr. That's the most intriguing part, I mean if we really need to get going that preservation of space is gone from our minds and we really don't feel uncomfortable next to one another. But I also thought, men even if we feel like we really need to pee so badly, if we notice that a free urinal is between two that are occupied, we would rather wait for one to leave and use that one instead. This time the personal space is more important and outweighs your immediate need for relief.
In those instances you usually give space by selective use of eye contact. An implied space
Nah, personal space applies on public transit as well - but as a share of available space. People accept standing shoulder to shoulder in a packed car because there really isn't any other option - but if someone gets on and you are the only other rider, and they walk all they way up to you and sit down in the seat next to you - HUGE violation of personal space.
That's because it's understood that people will be sitting, standing, passing close to other people.
So our 'personal bubble' is much closer to being just our own body.
You would still feel your space had been invaded if someone held their hand or fingers pointing very close to your face or under your chin, for example, but not if someone was holding an overhead handle/bar and * happened * to have their hand close to your head.
This video has suddenly gained a new meaning.
This is very interesting. I took a communications course in university about this, and it's all about vibes and attraction.
'vibes'.
well you are a vegan no wonder you took that course...
oh look a vegan. hello
911: What's your emergency?
Hey did I tell you im vegan?
911: Sir, what's your emergency
Hey I'm vegan
*****
What a pathetic post.
Do different cultures have different comfort levels of proxemics? Where I live there is a large Hispanic population and I've noticed a lot of closeness that makes me super uncomfortable. For example someone will sit next to me instead of the next seat over on a bus or movie theater seat. Oftentimes while standing in line at any store I have to spread myself out because someone will be close to touching me with their cart or body. Cracked should follow this up with a video about proxemics in different cultures.
Yes, they do. For example, normal speaking distance for Germans is roughly an arm's length or more, and there's no touching. Only couples hold hands. In Arab countries, personal space between men and men and women and women is much reduced but higher between different sexes, and it is common for men to hold hands. Southern cultures will touch even relative strangers a lot while talking, while Northerners don't ever do that. And holding hands is really common among women in Asia. Not doing so as a friend is a signal that you don't like them as much as they thought, so they take issue. Also, public displays of affection between even married couples are uncommon across much of Asia and in most Arabic countries. Here's an example.
www.thenational.ae/self-emiratisation-cultures-are-poles-apart-on-personal-space-1.362732
Try Indonesia, China or...I guess..India, and you'll perceive the USA as pretty good in comparison :D
@@miriamearthling4107 thank you for sharing this. I am currently in a communications class that is expanding on this very topic. This is extremely helpful! Thank you again!
imagine setting firm boundaries so ur not uncomfortable socially in any situation due to anothers actions...
Can't get enough of that personal space! Get out of my personal space!
Is that from Rick and Morty ?
no, it's from the Bee Movie
Omg what a great video
I wonder how Muslim scholars may use this to describe ethics in Islam. Especially regarding intergender interaction.
I'm going to have to learn this notation system...this may be the best shorthand for writing down blocking for stagecraft.
I would literally give this video a million likes if i could. Such things bothers me more often than any others.
Gonna end up doing Haptics, Chronemics etc etc next?
it's kinda cool how we just discussed a snippet of this in class yesterday
the show we all grew to love: The Personal Space Show
:) The public transportation managers should watch this when they are forcing people to travel squished like sardines.
This is great, like VSauce style. Keep it up! :)
We Brazilians have a hard time "respecting" someone's personal space. It was hard for me to adapt to Americans because the of this huge cultural difference.
I think your sense of cultural space might be culturally defined too. Ever noticed how people queue up for an atm in thailand? People almost touch each other, while here in holland an arms length distance is what we feel comfortable with. Ever noticed how Finnish people queue up for e.g. the bus? They stand about 4 meters apart it seems
WOW!! somebody share this with airplane manufacturers and airlines. I would like my private and personal space respected on an airplane
Did these studies come before or after the discovery of proprioception (our sense of space)? I'd love to know if one informed the other.
This guy is probably a celebrity in Finland.
the background music is amazing
In case it's not obvious: this is why social distance since pandemic refers to 6ft apart--all because of Edwards!
watching this while sardined on a city subway with sweaty, angry bodies. ugh....
26 people hate learning
58 now
+Navadra Froohar while psychology is a pseudoscience, and a lot of knowledge is technically pseudoscience, but despite the negative connotations it has, pseudoscience is no less valid or important, there just different. Science disprooves and pseudoscience prooves.
Navadra Froohar Psychology IS a pseudoscience, people just have a false definition of the word. My father and mother are psychotherapists and they themselves admitted that it is a pseudoscience. In psychology for example, you can find lots and lots of correlations, someone is insecure by a lack of hugs or because they were hugged too much. But for example Einstein, instead of finding the thousands of things to prove his theories, he only tried to find ways to disprove it. You can make lots of predictions that happen to be right based on pseudosciences, but that does not mean that the thing in question is the only reason for the result.
"A woman could feel her dance partners stomach heat up" umm sorry love but that was not his stomach lol
😂💀
bahahahha!!! I thought the same thing! That is an automatic response baby, he isn't just using his muscles, his muscles are responding to you!
So what is sneaking into and hovering around someone's personal space called? That's a thing too based on my own experience. Or intentionally violating someone's personal space and acting like it's by accident? Also all too common. And how does staring factor into this?
dont look at me im insecure
Make fun all you want. Who's more pathetic, the one that's "insecure" or the one that spends time going out their way to aggravate others insecurities? I'd say the later.
In some cases I bet there is some passive aggressiveness going on as well as
dominance.
Do you ever feel like whenever someone is talking to you standing up and you're sitting down that they will just spit on your face?
Amazing video!
I want to be an Anthropologist and so many more things
Many who chose anthropology are like that. Want to be many things.
Many prominent anthropologists are graduates from other disciplines. Franz Boas, Leslie White, James G Fraser, Levi Strauss...
I wish their is a subject about this in school like Oxford University and others.
you expect this class to take up an entire semester?
I really like this it's interesting I want to read the full study, or at least try lol
What's the name of the music that starts at 1:58? THAT WAS AMAZING, it had a vibe do melancholic... So divine, so strange
THIS IS SO INTERESTING - WOO
That was the thing I was looking for, since I've never known how to look at people without having them staring back at me with fear/anxiety
because you were standing too close and wondering what's wrong?
Congrats. Someone took careful notes in their Nonverbal communication class. But without the context of cultural norms, differences in cultural norms and how we negotiate breeches in those norms this would barely get you a pass in a Nonverbal midterm.
Different context change the expectations and the rules of proxemics. Two people in an elevator expect a different amount of personal space than ten people in the same elevator. In cultures where there is most stratification of class, race or gender different rules are in play compared to environments with similar class, race, gender. Even how we treat someone who breeches these rules is different. Think about how we regard a space hog especially on a subway of bus that fills up.
It's only 4 minutes but you could do a better job on proxemics than a History of segment.
Rahsaan Footman I will admit, when I read the first line of your comment I thought wow someone is being oddly upset about this and then I kept reading and I was like wow why didn’t they touch on any of that in the video way to go internet stranger 👍👍👍👍👍
I believe this video is strictly to show the different spaces defined in a general sense, so as to help you understand the pure basics of the study. To go into more detail regarding cultures, in-group, out-group, coculture, etc, would make for a very long video that takes away from the introduction of how the spaces came to be defined. They do not expand on the differences of how space is invaded, because that is something that should be shared in a separate video. I do hope they post such a video though, because that is a super fascinating explanation on how we interact with other people! Excellent take away you have here, thank you for sharing!
This man would have thrown his studies out the window in some countries where the concept of "personal space" doesn't even exist.
Proxemics is an actual thing? Wow
....what?
I kind a understand but how can I use this?
Take note of people's expressions when you get to close - so you don't become a close talker. On the other hand, if you are a boss, then stepping into another person's space to give them an order really delivers the message and pushes them to say yes, quickly, so they can have their space back.
Now do one about safe spaces.
The only safe space is jail, as you do not collect 200 dollars or land on other's property
Those guys look alike.
How did you edit this video?
What software did you use?
I learned this in nursing school. personal space. intimate space. public space
1 Personal Space
2 Personal Space
3 Personal Space
Luv my personal space!!!
BS Women's studies degree
BS Public Space degree
(BS stands for bullshit)
Wow you're so edgey
triggered
Wasn't there a Norwegian Artist that created words to objectively describe smells?
Nah man, NERV conceptualised and solidified the idea of personal space alongside Angel research. ATF and N2 mines, man.
Very accurate nowadays, Hello Social Distancing!
I was on it yesterday
How haven't I seen this before?
It says i'm no allowed to access the file
What is the music name ?
Did you meet him at mat tabots
Cas should see this
Shout out to Rick and Morty and Intergalactic cable bc we all learned a certain someone will go berserk about their personal space...
4:29 But did he smash tho?
I think 2020 reeeeally cleared any problem with personal space boundaries... LOL
Make a video about Dallas shootout killing 4 officers.
So i work in a cubical without separators, my colleagues to my left and right are about 4 feet away from me, now i know why i feel uncomfortable working there, they are technically in my personal space.
The guy in the video is so godamn cute
Soooo, could I sell my self as "not really a public speaker, more like a personal or intimate speaker"?
My name is Jeremy and I found the whispering to be a little too close for comfort.
That elevator ride was hella romantic
Now why don't we step up here and everybody gets stepped up, and let's gets some stepped up personal space up in this place!
Does this poor man not have friends to do a video with him?
3:35 my major takeaways
JEREMY I GOT YOU THE DOCUMENTS O_O
Jeremy? I got you! ....The documents?!?
I get so aggravated when people are talking loud in public.
let me step up right here and lets get stepped up, and why dont we get stepped up, personal space up in this place.
audio is way too low in this video
What about on the train?
?? why it doesn't sound sciency ??
Maybe, so that people would understand it better? I prefer the normal way though
Because although Edward T. Hall quantified aspects of personal space, the video didn't elaborate on how we can use the information to make any sort of predictions. Science is a tool that allows us to measure, predict, and control aspects of our natural world (e.g., physics and gravity, chemistry and atoms, behaviorism and behavior).
This video doesn't sound sciencey because none of the information was shown to be used in a way to allow us to predict any sort of relationship. Sure there are correlations between certain levels of personal space and the relationship those two people have, but clearly there are outliers, so it doesn't allow us to predict with certainty.
My question is: How much of these personal space levels are completely cultural and can be changed overtime, and how much is embedded in our biology?
If the video had gone on longer it would've noted that hall came up with proxemics, in part to describe the differing personal space bubbles of people and cultures across the world.
This is much closer to a system of measurement than it is a theory of social interaction. Having this system allows you to study human social interactions without having to whip out your thesaurus and try your hand at poetry (they sat so close they could feel the fire of passion burning in each other's eyes).
In the same way, that being able to measure kilograms means we never have to say " it was super heavy, bigger than a horse but smaller than a small house"
The video just described what is proxemic. This is to make social situations quantifiable for research purposes. You may have to read about about psychometric to understand the bigger picture.
why is s4 working at vox now?
I'm sick of everyone speaking in the same manner in these video essays.
Should they speak in full-on Ebonics instead?
I can tell you, if that cute presenter was on the elevator with me, he can invade any and all of my personal space.
Space bubble... Daisnotonfire anyone?
What about non American societies lol
The Getty Museum in LA is built off of personal space.
My personal rule is 3+ feet between me and a person I don't know. I start to have a panic attack when the person behind me in the checkout line stands very close to me. I've wondered if it's just a cultural difference.
Sometimes I tail gait at the checkout just because the person in front of me is wasting time.
+Skopar Weaver I can sympathize with impatience. I like to take care of business and use time efficiently. I still have anxiety about strangers being too close.
Came here because of ayanokoji taking about this
Watch the way a large row of urinals are used in a men's public bathroom (e.g. Yankee Stadium during the 7th inning stretch). Which one does the first man take. When a second man arrives, which urinal does he chose. When a third man arrives which one does he choose relative the the two occupied urinals. There is nothing worse than arriving last and having to take the only one available between two occupied ones. A study in personal space. Do women have the same pattern when occupying stalls?
I don't have a personal space bubble as long as the other person is attractive ;)
You must hate the mirror then.
+death mam good one haha
NOTIFICATION SQUAD!!!!
Jk this joke is old
Watchout this is going to be a new college degree,as gender studies
I see no real problem in people learning to use the proxemics system to describe a situation, if that is what you mean. It is just a notation system. Maybe useful sometimes, I don't know. It would be like someone learning a language, a very small and rarely used language.
The problem with many gender studies is that much of it is very political and often not anchored in science, unlike other social sciences or psycology. A notation system can surely be political, but this seems very harmless.
I took a subject lasst year which had some of this stuff so yeah
College is not a technical school. College is not a vocational school.
College is not job training in the sense we've perverted it to be today.
Actually, they already teach this in college, although it's not so technical. If you're a communication major, you learn how space and other non-verbal communication influence how people interact with each other. Which, if your job needs you to have strong communication skills, it's something good to know.
In Bordeaux France, We learn this stuff in Geography: Scales, metrics and space sociology/psychology (approximate translation)
Espacio personal Olga! Hay otra persona que penso en ramallo de la telenovela violetta?