Yooo! It was nice meeting you too. Looking forward to seeing your perspective. Also thank you for confirming my suspicions. It weirded me out he immediately left for other tables without ripping the fake.
The "not ripping it right in front of you" just because a stranger told him to, blows my mind. I would say less than 1% of people would just immediately be like, oh really? Okay I'll just fucking trust you 100% since you're behind a booth and I don't know anything about cards so I'll rip it. So silly to think people's natural reaction would be to rip a potentially expensive card.
@@officialvipokemonthe funny part of this, is im defending probably a guilty dude. But if we don't know 100% for sure, you can't just accuse people because of your personal standard. Where do we draw the line then? Your standard of guilty will be different than someone else. Then we are all just pointing fingers. This video/interaction isn't close to enough proof IMO to say he's guilty, let alone posting it on the internet.
@@DarkTruth1 Nah I came to say the same thing. He's probably guilty if he was offering everything at half market value. But his nod at the beginning could've just been a nod to indicate he understands. As far as not ripping a card, there's no shot I would've ripped a potentially $130 card just because someone says to. Like, if the rip test is negative, would the vender pay for the lost value?
Yup! That guy is guilty AF. When you told him about that first card he was not shocked and did not care, he was trying to read you! He knew what he was doing!!! Scammer!!!
should ask more questions such as where did they get the cards from to get more gauge of how they answer - for benefit of doubt, could think this way- the kid got scammed from trades at school (often) and the father didnt know too much of hobby and then finding out while maintaining compsure and pride. Then again I wasnt there so maybe you saw more uncomfortable flags.
Their facial expression is guilty as sin. They knew the cards are fake. They probably got scammed and saw a young vendor thinking they coupd swindle u. U should have ripped both of the cards and stated if they're real, you'd pay for them. That Dragonite had me for a second as well.
I got scammed out of $550 on a few skyridge holos. Bought at night and had never seen them in person before so didn’t realize how obviously fake they were. I knew they were fake but couldn’t bring myself to rip them until just recently, a year later.
i know its not pokemon but i bought some egyptian god cards and the exodia pieces from someone back in the day and they were all fake. (Yugioh cards) I tried to sell them around a year later and found out they were fake. i didnt rip them cards up they are all in my binder right now I have a page dedicated to fake cards. Even have it labeled fake cards
Bro... you don't want to accuse him, but this thumbnail you made says otherwise... "benefit of the doubt" my ass. If the dudes guilty, he deserves it, but you're taking a gamble not knowing. If I'm that dude and innocent, I'd be pissed about this video. Was he aware he was being filmed?
The mouth is all it takes, if you noticed something..when you agreed to or be open to "trade" he was all for it, but then his shoulders lowered very slightly when he realized he wouldn't be able to do anything. As well as how hard he was staring you down for saying that, the other give away is I'm assuming that's his son, can't look you in the eye for longer than half a second, dead giveaway. Anyone that's innocent (In my experience) while disappointed, would 100% ask you to look at the other cards so they don't get lied to again, they didn't just wanted to try to make a deal. Also a huge thing when it comes to hearing it's a fake card, only someone who knows it's fake wouldn't rip the card to test it. Honestly they knew 100% the Son had Guilt all over his face, and the dad looked like he was ready to absolutely deck you for seeing through his lies.
Yikes dude. Not sure this is an L or not but definitely not a W. First off just gonna say, this guy does seems more likely to be guilty than not(personal opinion) however you absolutely are not in the right to pretty much expose him by making a video like you've done here without knowing for sure hes guilty. You can say it 100 more times that you "want to give him the benefit of the doubt" but simply by making this video, you're not doing that. And I would say you know this fact. Just by the thumbnail alone, you know what you're doing and you clearly create a bias for the viewer before they even start watching. Again, I fully support exposing scammers, I hate them, and they should be fully exposed when caught. But ONLY WHEN CAUGHT. This guy probably is guilty! but just because he is "likely" to be, doesn't give us the right to do this. If everyone started doing this, we would live in a horrible society of mixed standards of whos guilty and not and just pointing fingers at each other. If you really wanted to give his guy the "benefit of the doubt", this video doesn't even go up. But I think you're just hungry for content/clicks and want what's best for yourself and your channel to grow... And everyone knows drama sells... In some ways I can respect the hustle. But still, you're as fake as you're claiming this guy is. See what I did there? I just played your game. And even though its more likely to be true than this guy being guilty, it doesnt feel good to be accused if youre innocent.(You can just admit youre trying to get clicks, your thumbnail is damning evidence.) I bet a small channel like this, this video becomes your number 1 viewed video in a week or 2. Whether you know that or not, its at the potential expense of a potentially innocent person. I personally study body language and human behavior for a living, and I would agree there are signs this guy is guilty. However, I would question your own body language during this interaction and how you speak to him. Its more passive aggressive and accusing than "giving him the benefit". Play it back. Just by your initial wording at the first card(the cheap Gengar card that I dont understand whos faking) You say "this one is fake, I DONT KNOW IF YOU KNEW THAT OR NOT" Think about the message that could send. You need to remember, people's brains think differently and often can interpret things differently. And social interactions can be very sensitive, especially with something like this, as major accusations are starting to form. You may genuinely not mean it that way, but its easy to see how someone takes it as such, so you should be very clear in moments like this. You saying "I dont know if you knew that or not" leaves it on the table as if he possibly KNEW HE WAS TRYING TO SELL YOU A FAKE CARD, thus making him KNOWINGLY guilty! Again, you could genuinely not mean it that way, but he's not you and if you're able to see things from another's perspective, this should be easy to see how it could be taken in such a way. The better wording would have been "This card is fake, I'm sure you didnt know this but...... explain why" This creates a much more trusting precedent right from the start. I wouldn't normally say we have to be so sensitive in everyday conversation, but when youre talking about highly sensitive stuff such as accusing someone of malicious behavior, you should be. And lets face it, in real time you are thinking (as you should) that theres potential this guy is trying to scam you. I get it. And I would totally feel the same way, I just hate the fakeness of you trying to act like a nice guy "giving the benefit of the doubt" that's not what "giving the benefit of the doubt means" You are the one who posted a video like this so I am being thorough. If you skip to the Dragonite you look at, watch closely at your own body language and words at 3:48. You're giving off huge signals of distrust again. Your body language is clearly done continuing the conversation (until he asks "why is that"). You quickly withdraw yourself by putting your hands into your pockets(huge body language signs). Your very quick explanation of why its fake, the little eye contact when he looks up at you and you quickly look down. No further questioning to help him like where he got the card, this would have greatly helped imply he didn't know any better and his innocence(but again lets face it, at this point your mind was made up, you were just acting civil) Not faulting you for thinking this, I probably would think the same thing in the same spot. But make a video about it and claim this innocent act like "I want to give him the benefit". It's simply not true. You believe hes guilty, otherwise this video doesn't go up. That is literally NOT what giving someone the benefit of the doubt means. Like you can't be that dumb to know understand the implications this video will have, especially with this thumbnail and just the video itself, how you speak on it. Guilty or not, this video was made at time when you didn't know. That's what makes it wrong. Hindsight is always 20/20 and you cant make decisions like this before the fact. That's why even if he turned out to be guilty, I would still stand by all of this that I said. Innocent until proven guilty. Also, I have no idea why you would fully expect a stranger to just fully trust you into ripping their card. That's just really horrible logic there and lack of understanding how people think. If someone truly didnt know and you were teaching them the first time how fake cards worked, you really just expect them to take a leap of faith right there on the spot and rip their card? Try to think in others shoes. That was the silliest part of your analysis. Enjoy your clickbait video. Check back in 2-3 weeks, it'll be your top 3 if not #1 video. What ever sells, eh?
That exact duo tried to sell me the dragonite as well, even offering me 50% market price on the entire binder lol
Yooo! It was nice meeting you too. Looking forward to seeing your perspective. Also thank you for confirming my suspicions. It weirded me out he immediately left for other tables without ripping the fake.
The "not ripping it right in front of you" just because a stranger told him to, blows my mind. I would say less than 1% of people would just immediately be like, oh really? Okay I'll just fucking trust you 100% since you're behind a booth and I don't know anything about cards so I'll rip it. So silly to think people's natural reaction would be to rip a potentially expensive card.
@@officialvipokemonthe funny part of this, is im defending probably a guilty dude. But if we don't know 100% for sure, you can't just accuse people because of your personal standard. Where do we draw the line then? Your standard of guilty will be different than someone else. Then we are all just pointing fingers. This video/interaction isn't close to enough proof IMO to say he's guilty, let alone posting it on the internet.
@@DarkTruth1 Nah I came to say the same thing. He's probably guilty if he was offering everything at half market value. But his nod at the beginning could've just been a nod to indicate he understands. As far as not ripping a card, there's no shot I would've ripped a potentially $130 card just because someone says to. Like, if the rip test is negative, would the vender pay for the lost value?
Yup! That guy is guilty AF. When you told him about that first card he was not shocked and did not care, he was trying to read you! He knew what he was doing!!! Scammer!!!
No expression at all!
That reaction to the first card, no reaction at all!🤣🤡 I’m glad you posted this video, it’s people like this that ruin the hobby for everyone else 👎
should ask more questions such as where did they get the cards from to get more gauge of how they answer - for benefit of doubt, could think this way- the kid got scammed from trades at school (often) and the father didnt know too much of hobby and then finding out while maintaining compsure and pride. Then again I wasnt there so maybe you saw more uncomfortable flags.
Their facial expression is guilty as sin. They knew the cards are fake. They probably got scammed and saw a young vendor thinking they coupd swindle u. U should have ripped both of the cards and stated if they're real, you'd pay for them.
That Dragonite had me for a second as well.
Got some nice stuff from you at the card show! Glad you came out. Sorry about the potential scammers
Interesting, I think you might be on to something. I'm just glad it ended peacefully. Also cool shirts!
I got scammed out of $550 on a few skyridge holos. Bought at night and had never seen them in person before so didn’t realize how obviously fake they were. I knew they were fake but couldn’t bring myself to rip them until just recently, a year later.
i know its not pokemon but i bought some egyptian god cards and the exodia pieces from someone back in the day and they were all fake. (Yugioh cards) I tried to sell them around a year later and found out they were fake. i didnt rip them cards up they are all in my binder right now I have a page dedicated to fake cards. Even have it labeled fake cards
Bro... you don't want to accuse him, but this thumbnail you made says otherwise... "benefit of the doubt" my ass. If the dudes guilty, he deserves it, but you're taking a gamble not knowing. If I'm that dude and innocent, I'd be pissed about this video. Was he aware he was being filmed?
His right to film. You dont need peoples permission to film
@FadedHolySoldier sure. Not my point.
The mouth is all it takes, if you noticed something..when you agreed to or be open to "trade" he was all for it, but then his shoulders lowered very slightly when he realized he wouldn't be able to do anything. As well as how hard he was staring you down for saying that, the other give away is I'm assuming that's his son, can't look you in the eye for longer than half a second, dead giveaway. Anyone that's innocent (In my experience) while disappointed, would 100% ask you to look at the other cards so they don't get lied to again, they didn't just wanted to try to make a deal. Also a huge thing when it comes to hearing it's a fake card, only someone who knows it's fake wouldn't rip the card to test it.
Honestly they knew 100% the Son had Guilt all over his face, and the dad looked like he was ready to absolutely deck you for seeing through his lies.
Yikes dude. Not sure this is an L or not but definitely not a W.
First off just gonna say, this guy does seems more likely to be guilty than not(personal opinion) however you absolutely are not in the right to pretty much expose him by making a video like you've done here without knowing for sure hes guilty. You can say it 100 more times that you "want to give him the benefit of the doubt" but simply by making this video, you're not doing that. And I would say you know this fact. Just by the thumbnail alone, you know what you're doing and you clearly create a bias for the viewer before they even start watching. Again, I fully support exposing scammers, I hate them, and they should be fully exposed when caught. But ONLY WHEN CAUGHT. This guy probably is guilty! but just because he is "likely" to be, doesn't give us the right to do this. If everyone started doing this, we would live in a horrible society of mixed standards of whos guilty and not and just pointing fingers at each other. If you really wanted to give his guy the "benefit of the doubt", this video doesn't even go up. But I think you're just hungry for content/clicks and want what's best for yourself and your channel to grow... And everyone knows drama sells... In some ways I can respect the hustle. But still, you're as fake as you're claiming this guy is. See what I did there? I just played your game. And even though its more likely to be true than this guy being guilty, it doesnt feel good to be accused if youre innocent.(You can just admit youre trying to get clicks, your thumbnail is damning evidence.) I bet a small channel like this, this video becomes your number 1 viewed video in a week or 2. Whether you know that or not, its at the potential expense of a potentially innocent person.
I personally study body language and human behavior for a living, and I would agree there are signs this guy is guilty. However, I would question your own body language during this interaction and how you speak to him. Its more passive aggressive and accusing than "giving him the benefit". Play it back. Just by your initial wording at the first card(the cheap Gengar card that I dont understand whos faking) You say "this one is fake, I DONT KNOW IF YOU KNEW THAT OR NOT" Think about the message that could send. You need to remember, people's brains think differently and often can interpret things differently. And social interactions can be very sensitive, especially with something like this, as major accusations are starting to form. You may genuinely not mean it that way, but its easy to see how someone takes it as such, so you should be very clear in moments like this. You saying "I dont know if you knew that or not" leaves it on the table as if he possibly KNEW HE WAS TRYING TO SELL YOU A FAKE CARD, thus making him KNOWINGLY guilty! Again, you could genuinely not mean it that way, but he's not you and if you're able to see things from another's perspective, this should be easy to see how it could be taken in such a way. The better wording would have been "This card is fake, I'm sure you didnt know this but...... explain why" This creates a much more trusting precedent right from the start. I wouldn't normally say we have to be so sensitive in everyday conversation, but when youre talking about highly sensitive stuff such as accusing someone of malicious behavior, you should be. And lets face it, in real time you are thinking (as you should) that theres potential this guy is trying to scam you. I get it. And I would totally feel the same way, I just hate the fakeness of you trying to act like a nice guy "giving the benefit of the doubt" that's not what "giving the benefit of the doubt means" You are the one who posted a video like this so I am being thorough.
If you skip to the Dragonite you look at, watch closely at your own body language and words at 3:48. You're giving off huge signals of distrust again. Your body language is clearly done continuing the conversation (until he asks "why is that"). You quickly withdraw yourself by putting your hands into your pockets(huge body language signs). Your very quick explanation of why its fake, the little eye contact when he looks up at you and you quickly look down. No further questioning to help him like where he got the card, this would have greatly helped imply he didn't know any better and his innocence(but again lets face it, at this point your mind was made up, you were just acting civil) Not faulting you for thinking this, I probably would think the same thing in the same spot. But make a video about it and claim this innocent act like "I want to give him the benefit". It's simply not true. You believe hes guilty, otherwise this video doesn't go up. That is literally NOT what giving someone the benefit of the doubt means. Like you can't be that dumb to know understand the implications this video will have, especially with this thumbnail and just the video itself, how you speak on it.
Guilty or not, this video was made at time when you didn't know. That's what makes it wrong. Hindsight is always 20/20 and you cant make decisions like this before the fact. That's why even if he turned out to be guilty, I would still stand by all of this that I said. Innocent until proven guilty.
Also, I have no idea why you would fully expect a stranger to just fully trust you into ripping their card. That's just really horrible logic there and lack of understanding how people think. If someone truly didnt know and you were teaching them the first time how fake cards worked, you really just expect them to take a leap of faith right there on the spot and rip their card? Try to think in others shoes. That was the silliest part of your analysis. Enjoy your clickbait video. Check back in 2-3 weeks, it'll be your top 3 if not #1 video. What ever sells, eh?
Bro no one is reading all that ☠️