A site glass would be better on the new g30 v3 on the outside with a liter guide rather than on the inside and maybe a fly sparge attachment for future upgrades if grainfather are able to upgrade to
I thought the idea of sparging was to keep a inch of water above the grain bed, surely this would run out of the side perforations and not efficiently through the grain bed unless you are doing a spray sparge and even so as it goes through the bed it will find its way through the side holes and not rinsing out the sugars fully
Hey! Grainfather are very keen on all customer suggestions, both from direct consumers and stockists. I believe they have had this suggestion already, we will see of they are able to develop something in the future to achieve this 👍🏻
Join the waitlist here for the new basket and once we have it in stock we will email you www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/grainfather-replacement-inner-basket/
I would be surprised if this will improve the efficiency of my v2. I like the plate that distributes the sparge on the v2. You can just throw two litres at a time. I see the lack of centre pipe makes it easier to use. But marginally. I think I’ll stick with my v2. But I’m sure it will function fine. I have added the additional bottom plate to my v2 which was or is a game changer. I think this would need the same.
I agree. My first experience of AllGrain Brewing - a very long time ago - a Sparged by using a Colander to spread the water out over the grain bed. My re-circulation tube is also longer than original and circles around the top plate in the horizontal plane because I did not like the existing pipe causing the return to hit the plate, I believe it would carve a path into the malt bed. Now mine swirls around the top. Before the GF I enjoyed the rotating Sparge Arm gently laying down the sparge water.
Ill be getting the malt pipe upgrade when available but wonder if the top plate does not help to distribute the sparge liquid evenly and hence be worth using still?
This design helps a lot actually, they started it on the G40 and what it allows you to do when sparging is see the way the grain bed is settling and move the flow around to speed this out and be more even. The top plate restricts your visibility so you can't see if there is any channeling
I just unpacked my new Grainfather G30. I read that up to now there was a thermal switch installed on the bottom of the boiler. My boiler has a hole in the bottom, but the button is not located there. Have there been any modifications to subsequent models and the lack of a button is normal? Should I return the product?
If you add a G-Cast into the mix it makes the unit WiFi by acting as a bridge. The G-Cast will also connect to wireless hydrometers to make them accessible via WiFi too
@@themaltmiller8438 When the Bluetooth icon on the Control Box is flickering on/of even when sitting next to it I do not think WiFi will be any more use. Intermittent BlueTooth has been the main problem I have experienced with my elderly unit, all replaced FOC. Going to watch the Vidnow.
I hope the bottom plate fits better than the one in my G40, lets a lot of grain through and has blocked the pump more than once. Not happy for a £1K machine, grainfather need to do better.
@@TheMattMustain Same here, I think there is an issue with the tolerances as I read quite a few threads and one of the comments said to slightly ovalise the underneath of the plate to make a better fit,I don't think we should have to.👍🍺
Are you taking about the bottom plate in the grain basket or the filter plate at the bottom of the G40? Either way I would suggest you reach out to your retailer or GF support directly.
It's really hard to say specifically as it will depend on the amount of grain you want to use/strength of the beer. If you use the GF app you can turn off sparge in it and then work out your volumes based on grain recipe etc..
We've not used a Brewzilla but the concept is the similar, the big benefit of the Grainfather over other products in the app/platform and the customer service. You get a 3 year warranty
The malt pipe looks like a big improvement. Much as I do like my G30, getting those silicon rings in place is a right pain in the backside!
Still missing the false bottom and no cam lock but the changes do make sense…
Still plenty of opportunities to develop future enhancements. 😉
Love my G30v2. I like the malt pipe change and will definitely be looking at buying one when it is available. G30 still needs at least one handle. 🍻
Is the new malt pipe available to purchase on it's own?
It will be available as a spare part at some point from Grainfather, as soon as it is we’ll have them 😉
Good video, good upgrade, product, happy with my G40
Will the new grain basket be available as a 'spare part' so we can upgrade from older version of G30?
Join the waitlist to get notified once its available www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/grainfather-g30ᵌ-replacement-inner-basket-new-2023-model/
A site glass would be better on the new g30 v3 on the outside with a liter guide rather than on the inside and maybe a fly sparge attachment for future upgrades if grainfather are able to upgrade to
We need a Grain Coat asap for the G70 & G40. No good rolling boil on the G40 and G70 below 17 degrees Celsius.
Looks fantastic. Do you know if you can buy the centre pipe as an individual part, and would it fit the original G30?
It will be available as a spare part at some point from Grainfather, as soon as it is we’ll have them 😉
That was exactly my question! You did say ‘watch this space’ when I asked the question in Bristol, Rakey 😉.
I thought the idea of sparging was to keep a inch of water above the grain bed, surely this would run out of the side perforations and not efficiently through the grain bed unless you are doing a spray sparge and even so as it goes through the bed it will find its way through the side holes and not rinsing out the sugars fully
In all the systems that now use this method we see efficiency hit 80%, the perforations are designed to allow just the right amount of flow
What about the pump and its pre- filter? Any improvements? That was the real concern to address...
Not on this update, perhaps they are working on that for the future
Please tell Grainfather to get a proper bottom plate for the boil stage. One can still use the orignal T piece filter arrangement.
Hey! Grainfather are very keen on all customer suggestions, both from direct consumers and stockists. I believe they have had this suggestion already, we will see of they are able to develop something in the future to achieve this 👍🏻
Will there be an option for the current v2 owners to 'upgrade' parts to make theirs a v3?
Join the waitlist here for the new basket and once we have it in stock we will email you www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/grainfather-replacement-inner-basket/
@@themaltmiller8438 Will you also supply the new bottom plate with no center hole with the new inner basket or as an additional item?
I would be surprised if this will improve the efficiency of my v2. I like the plate that distributes the sparge on the v2. You can just throw two litres at a time. I see the lack of centre pipe makes it easier to use. But marginally. I think I’ll stick with my v2. But I’m sure it will function fine. I have added the additional bottom plate to my v2 which was or is a game changer. I think this would need the same.
I agree. My first experience of AllGrain Brewing - a very long time ago - a Sparged by using a Colander to spread the water out over the grain bed. My re-circulation tube is also longer than original and circles around the top plate in the horizontal plane because I did not like the existing pipe causing the return to hit the plate, I believe it would carve a path into the malt bed. Now mine swirls around the top. Before the GF I enjoyed the rotating Sparge Arm gently laying down the sparge water.
Ill be getting the malt pipe upgrade when available but wonder if the top plate does not help to distribute the sparge liquid evenly and hence be worth using still?
This design helps a lot actually, they started it on the G40 and what it allows you to do when sparging is see the way the grain bed is settling and move the flow around to speed this out and be more even. The top plate restricts your visibility so you can't see if there is any channeling
How does the new longer tube work in practices during Mashing, do you curl it around the top of the grain?
Yes, you curl it around the top of the grain bed so the flow doesn't go directly down into the mash pipe. Works a treat!
Grainfather appear to be correcting many mistakes with the V3, listening to quite a few horror stories on blocked pumps may have put people off.
I just unpacked my new Grainfather G30. I read that up to now there was a thermal switch installed on the bottom of the boiler. My boiler has a hole in the bottom, but the button is not located there. Have there been any modifications to subsequent models and the lack of a button is normal? Should I return the product?
New models don’t have the switch underneath to reset them. It’s done with the toggle switch on the side 👍🏻
@@themaltmiller8438 Thank You!
Great upgrade, very tempted to make the switch from 2 vessel BiaB. Just a pity they didn't put the new controller on it as well.
If you add a G-Cast into the mix it makes the unit WiFi by acting as a bridge. The G-Cast will also connect to wireless hydrometers to make them accessible via WiFi too
@@themaltmiller8438 When the Bluetooth icon on the Control Box is flickering on/of even when sitting next to it I do not think WiFi will be any more use. Intermittent BlueTooth has been the main problem I have experienced with my elderly unit, all replaced FOC. Going to watch the Vidnow.
Every time my g2 gets blocked whilst cooling. So the flow either stops or very slow. Any tips? I.e. it stops pumping.
Check your crush, coudl be you're getting to much through the plates if its too fine
we didn't get to see the inside but I'm guessing still no bottom drain 😞
Same drain point buddy, just off to the side
I hope the bottom plate fits better than the one in my G40, lets a lot of grain through and has blocked the pump more than once.
Not happy for a £1K machine, grainfather need to do better.
I wondered about that. I like the rolled edge idea but didn't think it would be a tight fit without the silicone ring. 🍻
@@TheMattMustain Same here, I think there is an issue with the tolerances as I read quite a few threads and one of the comments said to slightly ovalise
the underneath of the plate to make a better fit,I don't think we should have to.👍🍺
Are you taking about the bottom plate in the grain basket or the filter plate at the bottom of the G40? Either way I would suggest you reach out to your retailer or GF support directly.
How many liters can i brew without sparge? Tnx
It's really hard to say specifically as it will depend on the amount of grain you want to use/strength of the beer. If you use the GF app you can turn off sparge in it and then work out your volumes based on grain recipe etc..
It is similar to the Brewzilla Gen 4 without the wifi.
We've not used a Brewzilla but the concept is the similar, the big benefit of the Grainfather over other products in the app/platform and the customer service. You get a 3 year warranty