Using Cinderace's Signature Move The WRONG Way

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • Got a Pokemon Scarlet and Violet wifi battle where we mess around with Cinderace's signature move Court Change
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 194

  • @Roaming22222
    @Roaming22222 10 місяців тому +397

    Haydunn really said, "You don't poison me! I posion me!"

  • @airam1721
    @airam1721 8 місяців тому +107

    Also, with the court change tspikes only poisoning instead of badly poisoning, the guts and toxic boost mons will live on more turns than when they hold toxic orb

  • @eeveewithcoffee9554
    @eeveewithcoffee9554 10 місяців тому +19

    “I’ve got a dead, wet monkey in my pocket” never thought I would hear that

  • @YoowlOwl
    @YoowlOwl 10 місяців тому +62

    Love this setup of toxic spikes to free up an item on your facade-wielding pokémon 👌🏻

  • @chillcloak
    @chillcloak 10 місяців тому +73

    Ugh your commentary is just the best, on par with Weedle Twineedle for just the sheer hilarity. Never fails to cheer me up!

    • @alexterieur8813
      @alexterieur8813 10 місяців тому +2

      I wish weedle mainly did 1v1 i cant watch vgc 😢

  • @Nimesaloteth
    @Nimesaloteth 10 місяців тому +16

    Very clean and entertaining casting! I could understand everything whats going on as casual, one can see that youve been in the business for 10+ years!

  • @SSTrunks666
    @SSTrunks666 10 місяців тому +11

    Haydunn please never use "Granny" and "Moist" in the same sentence again 🤣

  • @ThatDamnRaccoon
    @ThatDamnRaccoon 10 місяців тому +16

    These battles have been the best part of this gen for me

  • @annapellerin1941
    @annapellerin1941 10 місяців тому +16

    You're seriously the most innovative Pokemon battler out here these days. Love love love it!

  • @weskintime4177
    @weskintime4177 8 місяців тому +4

    They fr gave Cinderace TWO signature moves.

  • @lucky7blue
    @lucky7blue 10 місяців тому +10

    I'm just getting into competitive pokemon and learn so much from your videos. Thank you for making this

  • @wesleymitchell2460
    @wesleymitchell2460 8 місяців тому +1

    Is no one gonna talk about how fire that electrode was the whole time? The triangle put in work.

  • @lukefarrell1453
    @lukefarrell1453 9 місяців тому +7

    You could also court change sticky webs to get a contrary speed boost

  • @YaBoyBeanut
    @YaBoyBeanut 8 місяців тому +1

    This would be absolutely horrifying with Choice Band Ursaluna

  • @wgt7537
    @wgt7537 9 місяців тому +1

    Super slick strategy! The Court Change into stealth rock on their side to deal with grimmsnarl is craaaaazy. Clutch. Super video haydunn 👍

  • @jacksonsense91
    @jacksonsense91 10 місяців тому +3

    I mean this is just brilliant. super impressive that you came up with this!

  • @l4430
    @l4430 10 місяців тому +5

    wonder if u could make a bulky poison heal breloom with leftovers work in this team?

    • @youngling01
      @youngling01 10 місяців тому

      I use it on my version of this zI have been usin for ages•-• best set is the sub punch with leech seed as you fully regen substitute

  • @huckinator
    @huckinator 10 місяців тому +1

    I think this title should be “haydunn beats BIGMEAT” 😂😂 (the opposing trainer’s name”

  • @ChrisMcGiggity
    @ChrisMcGiggity 10 місяців тому

    Been loving the vids lately haydunn keep it up! Really love the beginning intro where you explain your strategy for the battle, really helps better go with the battle and understanding your thought process and such throughout the battle. Even though you do a great job explaoning it as the battle happens, idk i still love the beginning intros lmao. Keep up the great work haydunn, love to see it as always!

  • @GamingGuyTy429
    @GamingGuyTy429 10 місяців тому +2

    BIG BRAIN strategy. Good stuff Haydunn 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @DrakGamestein
    @DrakGamestein 10 місяців тому

    "I've got a dead wet monkey in my pocket" tickled me more than it should have XD

  • @Mngalahad
    @Mngalahad 8 місяців тому

    haydunn finally gets the court change off with 3 minutes left in the video XD

  • @Iheartdrumzz
    @Iheartdrumzz 10 місяців тому +2

    Cinderace is a sick pokemon

  • @rell660
    @rell660 10 місяців тому

    I have never seen court change be used like this.
    Respect OG Haydunn.

  • @Zanderkoala
    @Zanderkoala 8 місяців тому

    Toxic boost Zangoose is one of my favorite pokemon of all time. I use one in my battle tree team on my Ultra Moon and it's so fun.

  • @michaelsamuels4664
    @michaelsamuels4664 10 місяців тому

    "me personally Im gonna pimp slap him but he can have her" Haydunn with the lyrics 🤣🤣

  • @That0therG
    @That0therG 10 місяців тому

    you took the "You cant burn me, I'm already on fire!" quote a bit too literally XD

  • @nefigah
    @nefigah 10 місяців тому

    Nice battle! Liked hearing the thought process surviving the rain sweeper threat

  • @moacruz9861
    @moacruz9861 10 місяців тому +1

    This is why i like this guy

  • @yuzmanito
    @yuzmanito 10 місяців тому

    I was going to say that a ghost type could live a facade from Zangoose, but then I realized that they are already dead

  • @cuppy09
    @cuppy09 8 місяців тому

    I actually use cinderace with pyro ball, high jump kick, acrobatics and u-turn, and so far, it has been great

  • @IamnotJokic
    @IamnotJokic 10 місяців тому

    clever strategy. Must have been stoked when it worked.

  • @Thorn99855
    @Thorn99855 9 місяців тому

    That court change looked really cool too. Sweet move I didn't even know existed.

  • @reflection458
    @reflection458 8 місяців тому +1

    Wonder if something like sticky web + defiant would prove useful or not.
    Having +2 attack on switch in sounds pretty decent, though the speed decrease is a bit of a pain.

  • @anderzafero3466
    @anderzafero3466 10 місяців тому +2

    Loving all these daily new videos!! 🎉

  • @Giratina575
    @Giratina575 10 місяців тому

    This is some 1000 IQ strata. You gotta join a draft league at some point man

    • @SuperDanMan11100
      @SuperDanMan11100 10 місяців тому

      I may be misremembering, but I could have sworn that he did some draft leagues in the past.

  • @GrimMorningstar
    @GrimMorningstar 10 місяців тому

    I cant wait til this strat ends up Meta in competitive some how, and then Hayden gets the props and attention he deserves

  • @kjbcantyousee
    @kjbcantyousee 10 місяців тому

    Haydunn the creative genius

  • @kazikaels7607
    @kazikaels7607 10 місяців тому +1

    This looks dangerous 😭😭😭 like how do you even come up with these

  • @nashgross8658
    @nashgross8658 10 місяців тому +1

    Top tier video right here

  • @PInnHeAd
    @PInnHeAd 10 місяців тому

    I didn't have full attention for literally 1 min, and then i hear, i have a dead wet monkey in my pocket. That goy my full attention again xD

  • @ChanceNavarro
    @ChanceNavarro 10 місяців тому +6

    Awesome battle! Just curious why you go for Silk Scarf on Pokemon like Ambipom or Dust Buster over a life orb? Seems like the recoil is negligible on such squishy boys

    • @2weakkickflip
      @2weakkickflip 10 місяців тому +2

      I’m guessing the fact that the toxic spikes that he needs for this strat end up giving Ambipom too short of a lifespan if it runs LifeOrb. Especially if it’s a toxic poison, you’ll only get like 4 turns out of it even if it isn’t hit once by the opponent

    • @johnmartinez7440
      @johnmartinez7440 10 місяців тому +1

      In my head, all those type-boosting items like Magnet and Sharp Beak only increase the power by 10%, but it's been 20% since Gen 4. Funny the stuff that passes you by.

    • @jeroenvdw
      @jeroenvdw 10 місяців тому

      @@johnmartinez7440 I think it wss always 20%, and some other lesser items were 10% like the incenses

    • @2weakkickflip
      @2weakkickflip 10 місяців тому

      @@johnmartinez7440 They’re 20%?? Holy shit I thought they were 10 or 15 😂

  • @someonenamedpix
    @someonenamedpix 10 місяців тому

    I have a set with this exact same idea just with sticky web and contrary serperior which can then defog the web away

  • @cheoplays6477
    @cheoplays6477 8 місяців тому +1

    The Opponent: Did you just put the toxic spikes on your side?
    Me with a gliscor with poison heal: Yes

    • @ilikepurper1160
      @ilikepurper1160 8 місяців тому +2

      Erm actually it wouldn’t be poisoned because it’s a flying type 👆🤓

    • @snider1365
      @snider1365 8 місяців тому +1

      Tera the gliscor

    • @ilikepurper1160
      @ilikepurper1160 8 місяців тому +1

      waste a tera specifically on that is crazy and also the nerd emoji is supposed to be a joke
      @@snider1365

  • @Weebdotexe
    @Weebdotexe 8 місяців тому

    I guess use either toxic debris or toxic spikes, and court change to sweep with a poisoned/toxic gliscor

    • @Haydunn
      @Haydunn  8 місяців тому

      Gliscor is a flying type. Does not touch toxic spikes

  • @Rrojas200
    @Rrojas200 10 місяців тому

    Awww hell yeah heracross battle!

  • @joshuavanderrheede4469
    @joshuavanderrheede4469 10 місяців тому

    This is one of the most genius strategies I've ever seen. GG

  • @0verl0rd67
    @0verl0rd67 9 місяців тому

    I'm impressed you didn't include a Poison Heal Pokemon

  • @monkheroidoe
    @monkheroidoe 10 місяців тому

    What a clutch play

  • @GojiSwag99
    @GojiSwag99 10 місяців тому

    I gotta see more of this team dude

  • @BradBradBradBradBradBradBrad
    @BradBradBradBradBradBradBrad 10 місяців тому

    yo haydunn i love your videos. This team is your most fun yet - Heracross is so slept on I use it a lot in showdown NU.
    I think it would be sick to make an only gen 5 team

  • @evanreloadingbazookagaming1699
    @evanreloadingbazookagaming1699 8 місяців тому

    I thought cinderace’s signature move was pyro ball 💀

  • @bryankusoo
    @bryankusoo 9 місяців тому

    Using court change for the Inigo Disk got it

  • @crowntug
    @crowntug 10 місяців тому

    Love this strategy

  • @bornsmooth92
    @bornsmooth92 10 місяців тому

    Your opponent thinks he's won
    "Ah, but you've activated my trap card, CHOICE SCARF TOXIC BOOST TERA NORMAL ZANGOOSE!" while you were busy setting up your screens and smashing your shells, I was patiently waiting for the moment to use my court change card, turning the tide of this duel in my favour
    That might be cringe but Idc, great battle, wonder what the weakness policy was for on the Uxie? Baton pass maybe? Did it even show an attacking move other than U turn hahaa

  • @EpicBurnoff
    @EpicBurnoff 10 місяців тому

    Thats a rad strategy bud. Might need to try it later

  • @ADCruz2
    @ADCruz2 8 місяців тому

    You could also use this strat to run Poison Heal Gliscor (if it's available in SV or SS at this point)

    • @Haydunn
      @Haydunn  8 місяців тому

      Gliscor is a flying type so it doesn’t get to touch the toxic spikes

    • @ADCruz2
      @ADCruz2 8 місяців тому

      @@Haydunn Ah, my bad... It'd be busted if it could, though. Not even with Roost, gravity or smack down? I feel like it'd have to touch them if it could use roost (or gets hit by gravity or smack down)

  • @jadenfreeman357
    @jadenfreeman357 10 місяців тому

    Clutch on waiting out the rain and making it work 💯

  • @dwreanchinotan
    @dwreanchinotan 10 місяців тому

    In this game you beat bigmeat, wait…

  • @danielbraden8750
    @danielbraden8750 10 місяців тому

    You're a Pokémon Genius. Nice job.

  • @Derevocsidi
    @Derevocsidi 10 місяців тому +1

    Yooo i commented about this strategy on some other channel who made video on quit feet Mightyena and they didn't make a video about it but you did lol.
    Edit : omg it was on your video.

  • @joeyfontaine1991
    @joeyfontaine1991 10 місяців тому +1

    Haydunn out here using weedletwineedle strats

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng 10 місяців тому +1

      Based Haydunn

  • @cyndaquil1433
    @cyndaquil1433 8 місяців тому

    Wait court change is cinderace’s signature? Huh didn’t know that

  • @TheZeeAttack
    @TheZeeAttack 10 місяців тому +1

    haydun da 🐐 no 🧢

  • @jamesrealm
    @jamesrealm 8 місяців тому

    Zangoose is hands down one of my favorites from gen 3 I’m definitely stealing this strat lol thank you

  • @454ffv
    @454ffv 10 місяців тому

    i like this strategy, want to see more

  • @lukesullivan9344
    @lukesullivan9344 10 місяців тому

    How do you make these news teams? What tools do you use?

  • @PlacestobeVG
    @PlacestobeVG 10 місяців тому +1

    10:23 is there a reason why the opposing Arcanine didn't use Extreme Speed to so some chip dmg on Shank?

    • @PlacestobeVG
      @PlacestobeVG 10 місяців тому +1

      Oh maybe they didn't expect that shank would be faster so they wouldn't have to use a priority move...

    • @landsead12
      @landsead12 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@PlacestobeVGI can ask him for you

    • @landsead12
      @landsead12 10 місяців тому +1

      you were correct, he didn't realize it was choice scarfed@@PlacestobeVG

  • @teabown02
    @teabown02 8 місяців тому

    Huh I thot pyro ball was cinders signature

  • @landsead12
    @landsead12 10 місяців тому +1

    That was my friend that you battled😅

  • @tp1382
    @tp1382 10 місяців тому +1

    Toxic Boost Tera Normal Poisoned Zangoose Facade = 420 BP

  • @Hat64
    @Hat64 8 місяців тому

    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh I thought Cinderace’s special move was Pyro ball???

  • @dragon-id5uj
    @dragon-id5uj 8 місяців тому

    wombo combo! happy feet!

  • @BiggestSniff
    @BiggestSniff 10 місяців тому

    have you heard of ADV Revival?

  • @chuggaa100
    @chuggaa100 10 місяців тому

    You should do a team with the GOAT Weezing/Koffing

  • @solivares
    @solivares 10 місяців тому

    This is so much fun, thanks!!!

  • @Jake-ve9bd
    @Jake-ve9bd 8 місяців тому

    So my favorite pokemon is part of the pokemon that have more than 1 signature move?!?!?!

  • @Benwyatt92
    @Benwyatt92 9 місяців тому

    That was awesome kudos

  • @Gyokan7
    @Gyokan7 10 місяців тому +1

    This strategy is unhinged bro how did you even come up with it lmao

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng 10 місяців тому

      Bro sitting there plotting a murder on Pokemon Showdown. Then he brought it to the real game. 💀

  • @DreamerNation4All
    @DreamerNation4All 10 місяців тому +1

    Hold up soooo can court change take the affects of aurora Veil

    • @Haydunn
      @Haydunn  10 місяців тому +2

      Yep!

    • @DreamerNation4All
      @DreamerNation4All 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Haydunn oh wow didn’t know this lol thanks 🙏🏾 your videos are amazing continue going forward. Been watching for years.

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng 10 місяців тому

      ​@@HaydunnCourt Change is wild. Wish more pokemon got it.

  • @dizzytaco1
    @dizzytaco1 9 місяців тому

    Where do you play singles?

  • @ebmx03
    @ebmx03 10 місяців тому

    291k! We are really close 💪🏻

  • @jazmidna2070
    @jazmidna2070 10 місяців тому

    I was wondering where you were 😂

  • @Flamingo97
    @Flamingo97 10 місяців тому

    Is this team rentable?

  • @dnr-vs1lk
    @dnr-vs1lk 8 місяців тому

    This is overcomplicated and inconsistent, a much easier and more consistent strategy with less counterplay would be to skill swap synchronize onto the opponent and then use will o wisp on them with your guts mon. Make sure to pack knock off on the synchronize mon in case of ability shield.

  • @tyvauskeith5558
    @tyvauskeith5558 10 місяців тому

    Ursauluna facade choice specs

  • @MissMyah37
    @MissMyah37 8 місяців тому

    Why are shinies so good for battle?? Is this why is always lose?

  • @KiryuuYoshiya
    @KiryuuYoshiya 10 місяців тому

    leaving another comment for the boy zangoose and also the algorithm

  • @forestthomer938
    @forestthomer938 10 місяців тому

    Wouldn’t the cinderace have just beat the turtle after the rain and then you could have done a court change

  • @lukesullivan9344
    @lukesullivan9344 10 місяців тому

    Why does Tornadus look like a bird here??

    • @Alexis29_
      @Alexis29_ 9 місяців тому

      All 4 genies have 2 forms

  • @clashatdemonhed9554
    @clashatdemonhed9554 10 місяців тому +1

    You should set up a meme team tournament. No sweat, no standard sets

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng 10 місяців тому +1

      it would be cool if that were an actual Smogon tier. MU (Memely Used) .

  • @Sinnohan
    @Sinnohan 10 місяців тому

    That was epic!

  • @douglaspope-gz1eq
    @douglaspope-gz1eq 10 місяців тому

    Can I get the team code?

  • @Gustavo-jq2sc
    @Gustavo-jq2sc 10 місяців тому

    i love zangoose, its design so beautiful but so underrated

  • @Rrod810
    @Rrod810 8 місяців тому

    Wow love it

  • @puore
    @puore 10 місяців тому

    Epic

  • @bertifekete465
    @bertifekete465 10 місяців тому +1

    First like first comment baby woooo

  • @CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe
    @CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe 10 місяців тому

    Just press the R button to Tera. It's there for a reason

  • @solusolorun2209
    @solusolorun2209 10 місяців тому +231

    I love the new video format and how creative you’ve been with the team formats you really be in the lab cooking up. Still watching you nearly a decade later and happy to see you still here.

    • @Us4eva3
      @Us4eva3 8 місяців тому +2

      Amen brother

  • @HyperManSP
    @HyperManSP 10 місяців тому +76

    I did this in gen 6/ gen 7 days with skill swap - give opponent magic bounce, use toxic spikes to put them on my side, then sweep with either zangoose (toxic boost), breloom (poison heal), or mightyena (quick feet). The other team members were a flying-type (xatu - skill swap), someone with levitate (weezing - toxic spikes), and a steel-type (mawile - Mega) so there was never a downside to having the spikes on my side. It was so fun.

    • @Mr.Brothybear
      @Mr.Brothybear 8 місяців тому +1

      I Must Know This In the name of Science!
      Can You Bounce Hazards Back and Forth If 2 Pokemon Both have Magic Bounce?

    • @HyperManSP
      @HyperManSP 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Mr.Brothybear I believe it only bounces once. A magic bounce pokemon cannot bounce back an effect that has already been bounced once. So, it can't bounce away its own move.

    • @cjer6040
      @cjer6040 8 місяців тому +2

      I thought that Haydunn stole my idea because I had come up with this about mid-late gen 7 (absolutely improved in gen 8 with Cinderace), but I see that my original idea is but an imitation after all. Good on you for coming up with the wild idea though. It has always been one of my most fun and wild concepts of any of my teams

    • @HyperManSP
      @HyperManSP 8 місяців тому +2

      @@cjer6040 Thank you! But I'm sure I was not the first to think of it either. Maybe _that_ specific team composition, utilizing the full potential of putting toxic spikes on one's own side of the field. ORAS was my time btw. I made something like 20+ competitive full teams of 6 in that game, most teams capitalizing on some crazy strategy. I dabbled a bit in USUM, but nowhere near the amount of time I spent on ORAS.