Is A Slightly Stiff Arrow Spine Better?

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  • Is A Slightly Stiff Arrow Spine Better?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 51

  • @MikeK84
    @MikeK84 Рік тому +6

    I've always gone a touch weak instead. Since i'm more likely to short draw on an animal at the moment of truth. But this is an interesting perspective i've never considered

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Рік тому +2

      The key is to find that sweet spot that works best for you. I sat on this video for months afraid to publish it thinking people would be bashing me. But finally said screw it. This is how I shoot and how I've been shooting for years and it works best for me.

  • @aranha9365
    @aranha9365 2 місяці тому +1

    Jesus, I've just watched 10 videos trying to find out stiff/weak- goes to the left or to the right.... and it was unclear, or even contradictory..... in less than 3 minutes you made me understand the process and not just which way is which. Now I know what to do with my bloody arrows 😅😆😁. Thank you Sir!

  • @reddawng43x91
    @reddawng43x91 Рік тому +6

    I like riding the weak line I find it’s more forgiving and groups better

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Рік тому

      Nothing wrong with that and proves the most important point. Show what works best for you and your style. A slight stiff or a slight weak is all good the feathers will correct it very quickly. Not saying I recommend being out of tune. But a smidgen either way won't hurt and might be a titch better for someone.

  • @joeyw4442
    @joeyw4442 11 днів тому +1

    Love your channel and love your videos. Good advice. I've been hunting with trad bows for over 40 years. I assume, like me, you've learned this stuff through trial and error and lots of shooting experience. Good to have these type videos, advice, and information for less experienced folks to help them speed the learning curve and enjoy the thrill, enjoyment, and satisfaction of hunting with trad bows for many years to come. IMO, one can learn so much more about animals, and hunting in general, by hunting with traditional archery equipment. Keep up the good work.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  10 днів тому

      @@joeyw4442 agree on all points and appreciate the comment

  • @watchhuntbetter
    @watchhuntbetter Рік тому +2

    Great video that highlights studying everything, paying attention to what works for YOU, and then not being afraid to accept that truth. Jason, you’re one of the most genuine voices in the hunting community - experience and character. We’re lucky to have you. Love this.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Рік тому +1

      Thank you. Greatly appreciate that. I sat on this video for months afraid to post it because I thought people would give me a bunch of crap about how only a perfect arrow is right. Glad I did post it.

  • @jetpilot555
    @jetpilot555 Рік тому +2

    I cant my bow and shoot instinctive. I learned it very early on that a slightly stiff spined arrow also neutralizes the tendency of EFOC arrow from flying pointing down. It's no magic that you can hit your target without looking at the arrow. It just works that way. Thank you for posting this and explaining it better than one ever tried, or thought but not tried.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Рік тому

      Yep thats a great tip about the high foc. Glad you enjoyed the video

  • @ryanderlago
    @ryanderlago Рік тому +2

    Like others here, I too find slightly weak works better with all my trad bows. Glad you’ve figured out what works for you.

  • @bwfreel
    @bwfreel 11 днів тому

    It’s good info folks. I had a remote hunt that I didn’t have a lot of time to get ready for. I had a bunch of shots that were shooting l little stiff, as a right handed archer, canting the bow will bring those stiff arrows into alignment. Made a perfect shot on a great animal with stiff arrow by canting my bow

  • @woodslore4672
    @woodslore4672 Рік тому +2

    I've always shot wood Arrows in my younger days...400 -500 spine. Now I go slightly over.. Currently shooting a 600: carbon with a 125 Zwickey Delta..It's working

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Рік тому +1

      Yep fine what works best for your shooting style

  • @barrystricklin2230
    @barrystricklin2230 Рік тому +2

    Wow been shooting traditional my whole life lm 60 and lm always learning new stuff from you l greatly appreciate your channel

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Рік тому

      Thank you. Glad you are enjoying the videos

  • @caseymclamb5890
    @caseymclamb5890 Рік тому +1

    Great info on that subject, definitely makes sense. I typically shoot stiffer on my compound bow setup because of more lbs psi. Still learning in the trad bow set up I have now, definitely take that in consideration.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Рік тому +1

      Yep test arrow set ups and find what one works best for you. Charts will get you close but the fine tuning matches your arrows ro your style

  • @XXXston3wallXXX
    @XXXston3wallXXX 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you

  • @alexlindley5156
    @alexlindley5156 Рік тому +1

    Great video brother! I just got my new northern mist bow last week!!!

  • @UncleDanBand64
    @UncleDanBand64 Рік тому +1

    The reason I cant the bow, it causes the deflection from a slightly stiff arrow to go away from riser at an angle. That does a couple of things for you. Your windage will be closer to center and you will gain a tad of elevation or lose less at least. Back when I shot heavy bows my perception was my bow shot flat out past 20 yards to about 23 just maybe an inch low. In reality it was rebounding away from the riser on an angle.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Рік тому +1

      interesting point and very much could be true. All i know is I really like it this way. Have shot like this ever since I started shooting an ASL or Hill style bow and love the results. my arrows fly great and the riser doesnt get into my vision like it does when I run a weaker shaft. Could also just be the way I shoot. but it works great for me.

  • @reedmitchell6716
    @reedmitchell6716 Рік тому +3

    I also like riding the fine line towards stiff. Makes me come to full anchor and pull through. Also my arrow over all weight is on the high side. Great information here.

    • @woodslore4672
      @woodslore4672 Рік тому +2

      I've been experimenting with Heavyweight Arrows out of my tree stand. Close and hard Hitting..Have even shot some of Three Rivers new Aluminium s..

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Рік тому

      Yep its a matter of finding what flies best for you and your style.

  • @2anonymous
    @2anonymous Рік тому +2

    I shoot self bows. Weak shafts for me because of the handle width.

  • @duffy1298
    @duffy1298 Рік тому +2

    A very slightly weak arrow seems to get the best results for me

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Рік тому +2

      Yep thats the key. Find what works best for you

  • @george2099
    @george2099 Рік тому +1

    Hi, Jason Great video have a question for you what size bike tube do you use for your bow grip? Thanks and have a great hunting season!!

  • @masons2463
    @masons2463 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm having a hill style longbow built right now and I'm wondering what spine arrows I should get for it. It will be 50# at my drawlength and I will be using carbon arrows with 200-250 gn up front. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Love the channel and podcast.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  11 місяців тому

      depends on your draw length, your arrow length etc. And only real way to find out is the bares haft test and find what works best. But on a forum like tradgang there are many that will probably have a similar set up to yours and be able to get you real close. I honestly dont have any good suggestions. my arrows are unique with the double inserts and ive been shootin the same arrows so long I dont even know what spine works how for who etc.

  • @SoldierDrew
    @SoldierDrew Місяць тому +1

    What model arrow quiver are you using?

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Місяць тому

      @SoldierDrew this one is a great northern strap on longbow quiver. I have been using the crewkwalkertrading.com quiver for the last 5 months and it's my absolute favorite

  • @dougw2399
    @dougw2399 Рік тому

    Yeah! Back to the good stuff! Leave the sales pitching for the salesman

  • @normaneastman7386
    @normaneastman7386 Рік тому +1

    You going to Missouri?

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Рік тому

      I'm hitting 3 Midwest states this year. Still undecided on what those are yet.

  • @Kurtdog63
    @Kurtdog63 Рік тому +2

    I tend to shoot a little left, so guessing I would want a lighter spine setup, ha.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Рік тому +1

      Or the shaft could be bouncing giving a false result. Let the bare shafts tell you what you need.

    • @lawrencefranck9417
      @lawrencefranck9417 Рік тому

      Add point weight and see…

  • @pickin4you
    @pickin4you Рік тому +2

    First off, anyone who paper tunes a trad bow does not know what they are doing. Paper tuning is for a compound using a mechanical release. That release is the same every single time. Your finger will never be the same. Just bare shaft tune and be done with it. You are doing too much work. And this sight picture stuff. This is for those who cannot shoot without aiming. If you must aim, then go with the proper spines arrow. I can go stiffer because I am an instinctive shooter. This is something that cannot be learned. Look the word up in the dictionary. It is some thing that comes natural to you. Most do not have it. I shoot like Howard Hill, but not even close to as accurate. But I never hold at full draw. My strong hand is always in motion. So again, stop trying to paper tune a read bow. It’s a total waste of time. Not one of us has a release like a machine. Our hands just don’t do that. This is why this man said that 2 out of 10 paper tuned arrows shoot a bullet hole. Maybe it was the other 8 that were the correct ones. See where I am going with this. Just some long earned wisdom from a 62 year old life long shooter of both trad and compound.

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Рік тому +1

      Yep not a fan of paper tuning much either

  • @DavidWilson-ss2dy
    @DavidWilson-ss2dy Рік тому +1

    what broadhead are you using there?

    • @SamkoTradBow
      @SamkoTradBow  Рік тому +1

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