Great video. Love your editing style (you’re wild for including those lizard backshots) and your writing is so really solid. This is a topic I’ve been thinking about for ages and have wanted to see explored. I have some thoughts on the topic (I am a Spidey Glazer) but if you don’t wanna read my several paragraph long rant thats fine. There are two key things about Spider-Man that I think would be a huge help in a fight against people like AFO, Nomu, etc. First thing is his origin. If this Peter was still bitten by a radioactive spider, then it stands to reason that Forced Quirk Activation and other Quirks that specifically affect Quirks (like Erasure and All For One itself) would not work on him, as they work by manipulating the specific genetic traits of Quirks (mainly the quirk factor), which Spider-Man would not have due to him being “Quirkless”. (This would also give him an advantage against opponents who can view the quirks of others, as they would be confused or underestimate his abilities upon seeing he has no Quirk.) Second point, which you obviously know about but I feel carries aids him in these fights far more than people realise is his Spider-Sense. Peter’s spider-sense warns him not just of where danger is coming from, but it also tells him the intensity of the danger by the intensity of the tingling, which would tell him almost exactly how dangerous his opponents are. I believe him knowing exactly how dangerous someone like AFO, Shigaraki or Dabi is would prompt him to utilise his full strength (or at least a far greater portion of it than usual) right off the bat, which would take most opponents like Dabi or Shigarak by surprise, as Spidey is more known for beating up purse snatchers than immense feats of strength/speed. (Spider-Sense is broken as shit and can also override his muscles to dodge if he is incapable of reacting in time.) If nothing else he would put up a decent fight by striking and then backing off at high speed. On a more general note, I feel like Spider-Man’s peak strength level would be comparable to Deku at around 30-50%(maybe more or less as I am not fully caught up on the anime so may be unaware of specific feats). Peter spends so much time holding back that most of the times we do see how strong he is are non-striking feats like lifting up the Daily Bugle and taking the full force of a landing plane, but a truly no holds barred spidey is capable of blitzing/overwhelming opponents far stronger than him. I think base Spider-Man would be capable of defeating the USJ Nomu either by restraining it with his webbing and then defeating it the same way All Might did (albeit with far more effort), as he has been shown to be capable of both recognising weaknesses in his opponents abilities and speed blitzing characters before [a former herald of galactus with the power cosmic being the biggest one that comes to mind] (I recall him wearing the black suit at the time, which may nullify this feats relevance unless its the cloth version). Speaking of, I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on how Symbiote Spider-Man would fair against some of the villains you talked about, such as the USJ Nomu, Gigantomachia, and AFO, as the symbiote has been stated to provide a flat 2x multiplier to his stats.
Thanks so much for the great comment! I'm gonna do my best to give you a long comment in response! First off, I didn't expect the forced quirk thing to be as much of a talking point as it has been in this comments section - while I totally understand (and agree to an extent) that people believe that Spider-Man would be unaffected by the quirk stealing/activation powers, I don't think it should be as black and white as people think. A lot of it seems to stem from "he wasn't born with his powers, so it wouldn't work." but we've seen people that have had quirks that they weren't born with (later in the series, so no spoilers) stolen from them by the All For One quirk. While it's not quite the same because the nature of quirks and the spider that bit Peter are narratively and functionally different, they do both genetically alter the user - and that's really where my comparison came from. It was only really mentioned by me as kind of a "food for thought" point and not much else and again, I wasn' t really expecting anyone to look that closely at it, but I'm glad I'm able to have this kind of discussion with viewers regardless of if they're open to him being effected by All for One or not. Yes, Spider-Sense does certainly give him more of an edge than anything else in these fights and are honestly why I didn't really mention any other villains other than the ones that I did since Spider-Sense makes them kind of a non-factor because he's so much faster. And that's not even acknowledging that he's much stronger than a lot of these guys too. I think a really important part about Spider-Man's character is that he really knows how to play his role in a bunch of different scenarios, so while I wasn't confident in his ability to 1v1 Shigaraki or AFO, he does genuinely give them a whole new level of difficulty by being such a tricky person to put down for good. Thirdly, he could definitely defeat the USJ Nomu (if he even had to fight it, since it's already dead LOL) but the quirk is a direct counter to his main way of winning fights (punches) because it's entire purpose is to absorb impacts. You're right in saying he could restrain it though or something similar. I don't doubt Spider-Man's ability to speed blitz but the Firelord thing has always stuck out to me as a bit of an outlier. I'm really not much of a powerscaler as I don't find much fun in it, but I think that one feat is inconsistent with a lot of the other ones he has - but it's fiction and not real so if people want to believe that then power to them! A fan of Spider-Man is always a friend of mine, regardless of I agree or disagree with some of their takes. As for the symbiote suit thing, that's a good question. It was left out of this video as it kind of goes against the typical Spider-Man storytelling. I don't recall that multiplier statement but it certainly does amp him up, that's for sure. I think he'd defeat the USJ Nomu without the symbiote suit, so I just imagine he's a little meaner towards it LOL. As for Gigantomachia, you could probably argue he could hurt him a little like Endeavor did, but I'm still not confident he'd traditionally "beat" Gigantomachia. Same argument for AFO to an extent, especially since the ending of the series painted him slightly differently - by the time I had wrote and recorded this, his final battle hadn't happened yet so I obviously couldn't speak on it. Without spoiling anything, unless I'm misremembering his battle, there's definitely some kind of argument for Spider-Man beating All for One now but it'd be difficult for him LOL. Really the whole reason I made this video was to highlight 2 of my favourite fictional universes and see how well they go together and I'm glad it resonated a little with other fans too. Again, thanks so much for watching and leaving a really nice and cool comment!
@ I was surprised to see such a long response but I’m very happy to receive it. Thank you for taking the time to write such a long reply! I agree that the whole spider powers thing could go either way, it depends entirely on how the mutation is explained. Like, you could say the bite latched onto and combined with dormant Quirk genes (for lack of a better term) in Peter’s DNA, mutating/activating them (allowing him to be affected by Forced Quirk Activation and the like). Or you could say that it simply mutated his DNA in an unrelated way (meaning he is unaffected). There are no right or wrong answers with hypotheticals like this, and it’s interesting to see all the differing perspectives as someone who really enjoys thinking about them. I think he could fight AFO for a while just by virtue of Spider-Sense but I doubt he’d be able to take him down able without being seriously injured or killed. Spidey has managed to outspeed Daredevil’s radar sense in the past but its hard to say whether he’d be able to do the same to AFO due to the vast difference in speed and reaction time between him and DD. I feel he could easily solo Shigaraki Pre-Awakening pretty easily, though Post-Awakening is a huge maybe and depends on how seriously both sides take the fight. He’d definitely be visiting Uncle Ben up in Heaven if he tried to take him on solo during the whole war arc since he’s got AFO and that puts him on a whole other level. The only Spidey villain I can think of thats comparable to Gigantomachia is Sandman in his giant form (like in Raimi/Insomniac), but then again Sandman has (relatively) easy weaknesses to exploit in water and heat and even then he struggles with him. The only way I see him taking down Gigantomachia is by bringing him down with webs (like Ant-Man in CW) and restraining him long enough for a group of other heroes to swoop in and help knock him out, but that would definitely need to be a team effort. The firelord thing is a bit of an outlier, yea. I agree that Comic power-scaling is very wack and Spider-Man’s strength varies quite a bit from story to story. Once again, it all comes down to who’s writing the story/hypothetical. If they want Spidey to one shot All Might with a triple backflip roundhouse kick to the dick then thats what’ll happen. If they want him to die instantly in one punch then that’ll happen. I brought up the Symbiote in my original comment cause I just think it’s neat to think about. I can’t find where I heard the 2x multiplier statement, so I’ll retract that. I do think the Black Suit/Venom would make for an interesting discussion. I imagine a MHA version of The Symbiote being a Nomu as opposed to an alien, as that works well to explain its multiple abilities (shapeshifting, power boosting, etc) and personality without having to break canon too much by going “oh yea aliens exist and they only care about Spider-Man, don’t worry about it”. Overall I really enjoyed watching your video and reading your reply to my comment, I really do look forward to seeing more! You did a great job!
Um if I might make a comment on Pete's peak strength I feel like he would be stronger than Deku. Mostly because you have comics were a serious ANGRY Peter has one shot people like Rhino who've been compared to and stated to match Juggernaut and Hulk. Then there's all the times where Peter has fought multiple people on par with Hulk, Captain Marvel and such stupidly strong planet buster at MINIMUM. Like Peter holds back a LOT MORE THAN PEOPLE THINK
Imagine if they would fight a depressed version of spider man they wouldn’t last a second in their fight because before they know it they face has been ripped off (I get that shigaraki and decay him buts that’s if he can react fast enough to spider since as a depressed spider man like in the comics he can move ridiculously fast and I mean ridiculously fast as in a literally heartbeat fast)
you also gotta realize, one of the main struggles Spidey has is his work life balance, but in the world of MHA that would be a non issue since Pro hero is an actual profession, Pete would probably just be a pro hero, so that would only make him even MORE active, since he'd normally have to split his time between work, being a hero and his personal life, but in the MHA world two of those become one and he becomes that much more effective and present
Not to mention his academics, more often then not, Peter is attending school of some kind; whether it is high school, college, or participating in a scientific study.
@@Wizardwarlock324I don’t think so, it just depend on society. He would be a hero no matter if he gets paid or not. If the government told him not the save someone he wouldn’t listen.
Endeavor: What is his secret?! He must be some master manipulator or hold some secret power to achieve #1! Spider-Man(Whose entire motivation for heroism stems from an extreme trauma response due to the death of a loved one): You just gotta lock in bro, get good
@@CrazyK-cp5hi I wouldnt say a daily basis, but the events of spider verse, the negative zone, and time traveling from cable does get him in the history books. The master weaver (a spider god) cared about him so much to where he rewrote part of the web of life to bring spidey back even tho he was fated to die to morlun. Making him(b4 spider verse) the ONLY spider totem to have beaten an inheritor
I feel like Pete would be more efficient as a hero in the MHA universe due to not having to worry about actually having an alternate job for income though i think he would still keep his identity a secret he can still register as a hero and get paid
It would be like an Avengers situation where only the top heroes and the guys in charge would know his secret identity. Everyone else doesn’t need to know for him to work as a pro hero.
His secret identity as Peter Parker could just be Parker Industries with support items for other heroes!! So his secret identity could be giving Spider-Man his gear instead of being someone who takes Spider-Man’s photos.
@@ElfireII He would probably have been a support technician before his 'origin story' experience, but then utilizing some of his gear to become a Hero himself, while his company is still in the Hero Support market. Which could make him the testbed and posterboy for his company, it's products, and even for the Quirkless who wanna become superheroes.
I feel like Spidey would actually be respected in the MHA world. I mean no need to hide his identity, no crazy news reporters trying to ruin his reputation, and he gets paid for his work.
Plus technically he could still do the secret identity thing because look at All Might and how basically no one knew his identity for a good while. And Peter could make support items as a side hustle because his web shooters would make perfect non-lethal capture items.
All the villains gotta watch out for is this. If he comes after you and he isn't laughing, making jokes or is silent. You better hope you can run as fast as tenya
@@moonknight5461You have to remember, all we know about Spider-Man is that he has “the proportional strength of a spider” with the resourced the hero association has he could probably do some SERIOUS body building and grow his strength exponentially, sure he’s never going to punch as hard as all might, but he might get pretty damn close, plus the pure INTIMIDATION of a Spider-Man who isn’t laughing goes hard
@@StusheepRemember, of all of the Avengers, he's the third strongest one, only behind Thor and Hulk, so if we factor in giving him proper training, and villains that can actually take hits, he should have no reason to hold back as much, so he could potentially hit way harder than All Might, if he doesn't already, that is
@@Hugo-yz1vb No he's not. The thing you're referencing is from a very old comic where the only powerhouses of the Avengers were Thor and Hulk. But with the introduction of people like Captain Marvel who pack enough power to blow up a planet, his strength ranking has fallen way down.
11:45 Peter can exert at least 15 tons of force with a single punch, his webs are no joke, and I fully believe he could handle a high end Nomu if he has his gadget’s on him - in the context of a raid, he would. Considering the nonsense Peter has pulled off with raw strength, willpower and intelligence, I’m certain he’d make it out of there
Pimp slapping the hulk would put him here. Are we also ignoring the fact the in terms of body compatibility spiderman is the only one that can actually last with mirko? Iykyk what i mean.
@@kernabrahambarrios8840now you got me thinking which female MHA heroes and villains would join Pete's harem Mirko would probably be one of the firsts to join in since they're both incredibly agile, strong, and athletic
Power wise(somehow), it depends on the comic you use. In some comics, Peter scales stupidly high to face against a villain that would one tap AFO. But thats just comics.
Japanese spiderman's mech has a sword that can canonically one shot anything but it's only ever gotten used 3 times in comics. Stan Lee has put it above everything else so it's literally the enima forces deus ex machina but the mech always gets broken within the 1st panel it's shown.
Yeah i honestly agree with your thoughts in this video. Spidermans reputation and feats would give him the seat of the number one spot but hes not exactly invincible which is what most people think anyway but Spider-man overall tenacity and will to never give up in the most dire situations and his drive just to help is what would make him a really great hero in my hero academia. He definitely has the potential but i dont think Peter would truly want to be number one hero in the first place since Spider-man doesnt really care about the fame and stuff and due to him not really valuing money much he is just guy who really just wants the best for his city his home and thats one of the things that make Spiderman great especially as hero. He knows he cant save everyone but he at least tries his best. And also dude this was a great video keep up the good work and thanks for doing a vid on the goat himself Spider-man!
We officially nominate Spider-Man as the world's Number One Hero. Spiderman: Thanks but no thanks. I only do this to help, not for the fame or publicity. *Scoots off awkwardly* Where are you going? Spiderman: Nowhere, just my Spidey senses and all. *Swings out a window* H-He'll be back...right?
I would say that Peter’s power honestly would be top tier easily, but his problem is the fact that the hero holds back and lacks destructive stuff. After all, when forced into a game by the literal Devil, Spidey was able to survive against his entire rogues gallery solo for hours (which includes Morlun, who Peter thought was tougher than the Hulk and Thor), his body when used by Otto was able to budge the Hulk and Thor when they were restraining him, Iron Man has admitted that even with preparation, he’s scared of fighting Spider-Man (which is fair, considering that in the Civil War event and a What of for it, Peter bested Iron Man) and in the Classic comics, without the symbiote, Spider-Man was able to fight a former Herald of Galactus that still possessed the power of Cosmic on his own, and the moment he locked in to protect people, he actually won without realising until Captain America stopped him. The only problem he has there is the fact that Peter holds back so much, to the point where Chasm (a clone of Peter that had known him for years) outright stated that Spider-Man has been doing it so often and for so long, he doesn’t even realise it anymore in the more modern comics.
It takes the venom symbiote (the one who hasn't gone through Flash Thompson yet, in an ALTERNATE UNIVERSE (in fact most of the instances of him going all out are in alternate universes)) for him to even remove those limiters nowadays
I think what makes Spider-Man "polarizing" to the public is because of his secret identity. If I'm not wrong, the Avengers and the Fantastic Four in general have their identity in public. People know who they are outside their hero identity. Now, If we place Spider-Man in the MHA world and his lore and tendencies would still be relatively the same, I think he would still be a polarizing hero. I would not think he would be a registered hero in their world, making him a vigilante (Since he would get his powers in his HS days which I would presume Peter would not be studying in a "hero HS", he would not be able to train and be a registered, unless you can still register even without high school training). This would probably not place him in a favorable outlook in public, especially by the media and maybe even some heroes. Sure, Spidey will inevitably still garner praises from townsfolk and some heroes but there would still be a form of criticism since the argument would be that other heroes also risk the lives of their love ones since they are registered heroes and are public individuals. If this is the case, he wouldn't even be ranked in the hero billboard. Of course, my statement will only presume if Spider-Man didn't register as a hero and did not go public. If he did, he's definitely high in the heroes ranking.
I did consider the vigilante approach to be another path he could take and I think it offers a genuinely interesting discussion, though it didn't fit the initial subject of the video so I stuck to the pro hero critera to make it more streamlined LOL. Will probably mention something like this about any fitting characters I talk about in later episodes of this (soon to be) series. Thanks for watching and leaving a really cool comment!
Yeah going public is pretty much a deal breaker for Peter, which is a requirement to be a pro hero. This was basically what the first Civil War was about and he went through huge lengths to retcon his doxxing. No way he's down for that.
@@mothkiller its not a requirement tho,underground heroes are unkown by the public, all mights name wasnt known by the public, hell no one knew what the dude looked like
@@nolifegaming181 interesting, yeah eraser was an underground pro hero. as i recall, pro heroes seemed to all belong to an agency which would mean that they'd have to be public, at least known by whoever issues licenses. everyone is required to register their quirks and provide updates when they evolve. its true that All Might's identity wasn't widely known. He did go out of his way to hide his de-powered form so that would explain why people wouldnt recognize him on the streets.
You have to remember a huge problem for Peter is balancing both his hero life, and real life without exposing his identity. In my hero, heroes are normalized, that would take a huge weight off his back with his incredible stamina. Incredible first video. I'll stick around.
Bro if a "Spiderman" variant of Peter Parker existed in MHA, All Might would have made him his successor for sure. (Just forget about what OFA does to users who already have Quirks😂)
I think Mario IS a Spider-man variant,it has has Penn state Crude web of life that there are multiverses of spider-man And 2 no spider-man are the same. And if not I think mirio is a in universe parody of Peter
Does anyone know how to edit a sentence [ ( I meant to write "It's Been stated through the web of life" and And you can see what What it wrote Instead 😅) I can't spell very good so I'm been using the microphone feature Instead ]
@@CadenManley-w9udepends on if you're on mobile or not. If on mobile, there should be three dots in the upper right part of the comment and let you edit.
Just to throw this out here. Spider -Man (The PS4 version) was able to create a speedster suit that made him so fast that he was able to get a full day's worth of heroing in a half-hour (borderline faster then quicksilver). So if Peter were to make this suit again and fight against shigaraki, he could simply hit and back away from him before shigaraki can even touch him. allowing him to simply beat down on Shigaraki until he's knocked out
@@nicholassgobero Yeah.. sorry to tell you, but there’s a difference between AP and DC. Though Shiggy has more DC, Spidey’s AP is WAYYY higher, and so is his speed. It really isn’t comparable because Shiggy gets stomped unironically
Let's not forget that spider-man is kind of a green lantern with how he manipulates his webs, able to create baseball bats, swords easily stronger than steel, functional boats like in the 60's cartoon, making maces, giant fists in half of seconds and in quick successions in shattered dimensions/edge of time. Speaking of which, the hyper-sense, that ability allows peter to automatically dodge/evade ANY attacks and keep attacking at the same time while making him so fast that after images follow is every steps. Lasers? just run through them. Gunfire? What gunfire? Temporal tentacles? Not touching that. And i know those are from the video games, but i will not let them be forgotten or overlooked.
Tbf spidy basically has multiple quirks in my hero terms. He can cling to walls, enhanced strength, spidy sense, webs (depends on the canon) and just has that friendly hero attitude. He’s our friendly neighborhood spider man
Okay just to be that guy, this heavily depends on which version of Peter we're talking about, it's surprising how common it is for Peter to be on par with hulk in terms of strength, and faster than light in terms of speed, so unless you somehow think hulk is weaker than allmight, spidey is winning with kind of shocking ease, however if you're choosing an inexperienced, weaker spidey then yeah its a lot closer
Yeah that's why i really hate using Comic characters and inserting them, like if you create an OC in MHA that is fully based on the character then it would be much better because there wouldn't be this wide net of character power, where one can maybe destroy a building while other is hurting characters that can easily destroy earth with their strenght.
@KiraiKatsuji it's honestly why I always hate anime vs comics, especially Goku v superman, cause comic characters have so many versions you can always find a version that basically wins every fight they're in
Peter isn't equalling Hulk in any way unless he's using things like the Uni-Power. Him being lightspeed is consistent though. Even Iron Fist has lightspeed reactions.
@@JayRedGear He might not like the idea, that spider-man get money from this, but the amount of people he would save might actually be a turning point for Stain to like Spidey
@@supermikealex9780all might was paid too. It wasn't the being paid that makes you irredeemable in stains eyes it was being motivated by money and fame
17:05 I'd say peter is fast enough to fight and dodge or react to anything Shigaraki does. Spidermans's combat speed is more along the lines of gearshift deku. As he's shown to be able to dodge lasers and faster than light attacks repeatedly and even with ease. The issues yes would be hurting them but he's not incapable of it. Despite the fact he Likely isn't as strong as these afo and Shigaraki type villains who'd scale up to country level. He's still capable of hurting them to a degree most likely being comparable to mirko who could do the same. Possibly stronger. Take in mind spiderman may not be making tornados with his punches or something but he's still very strong. Theres a concept we call AP and DC. In powerscaling. Attack potency and destructive capabilities. Theses are different because for example. A character like goku. His punches Don't usually destroy the cities or mountains around him he likes to keep destruction to a minimum and can control his power very well. So despite being very capable of hurting and even beating characters who's durability matches a universe he doesn't necessarily destroy the ehole universe every time he punches. Naruto too for example. He scales to moon to even planet level but he doesn't have any visible showings of that scale physically other than once and that was only moon level. Krillin in dragon ball has the power level to match or surpass frieza yet we never see him destroy a single planet. A better example is 5% deku. He makes large shovkwaves small tornados and wind pressure yet he's only building tier. A similar thing is up with spiderman. He's very strong. Even if the range of the damage he can deal is limited he can still punch with enough force or output to match way stronger feats. Lots of different scaling and feats as well as calcs and showings support comic spiderman bein anywhere from city level at a lowball. To mountain level. At a mid range. To large island level at a high ball. Theres also some outlier feats and such that could put him up to planet or even solar system tier. They're weirdly consistent but I Don't like using those much. So mountain to large island is a very nice and consistent high end due to his various showings of staggering and injuring weaker versions of the hulk. Some of the mid to high range ironman armors. And many very strong characters like the x men and fantastic 4 who he consistently bullies most members of. Also the Thing during immortal Hulk who took a punch from a weakened skinny hulk that still made him bleed a bit(split his lip) and the thing blatantly states spiderman hits harder. Despitehim not being related to the story or even showing up the thing who is impressively strong considers spiderman capable of making him bleed if only a bit. So with a high end of large island level to match with mirko. FTL+ speeds possibly higher. With spider senses. And an IQ that high. I'd say he can at least survive in combat. Also Peters durability is much higher than his AP at times and any spiderman fan should know so. He gets constantly punched hit and beaten up by people he considers far stronger than him and always gets back up in one piece. So outright tanking a few hits from either afo or shiggy isn't completely outrageous. Although if we give him the black suit the entire scenario changes. And the planet level scaling isn't off the table any more.
I will say I want to give you contacts and more information about Spider-Man's power scaling. On the average he's actually pretty damn strong! Such as breaking venoms jaw, which the same venom was strong enough to rip iron Man armor suits in pieces. Fought against Eric masterson Thor, who was equal to OG Thor in times of physical might. Hulk and Thor even give compliment to Spider-Man's strength. And his speed is also incredibly impressive, such as dodging bullets, lightning and even lightspeed attacks. And lastly his true powers is to always gain an incredible amount of willpower to the point that even mephisto is intimidated by it. But one of his only weakness is the fact that he holds back, is not willing to kill like most characters. But even that sometimes break under certain moment.
He's also survived a fall from space to earth during all new all different spidey and was going to walk that mf off till scorpio snuck him with the zodiac key. He's also fought morlun for 12 hours straight(anyone else street level that jumped in woulda got CLAPPED) Fought and beat firelord(an ex galactus herald) Superior survived a blast from Terrax Has been shown dodging light masters blasts A clone dodged Thor throwing mjolnir full force(and mjolnir can reach the edge of the marvel universe and back in less than a minute) Has stunned the pheonix force twins with his attacks(magik was even trying to kill him) Has fought off carnage surfer Fought thanos in the astral plane and held his own(doesn't mean he could do it physically) Survived having his back beaten on by juggernaut (who can rock with Thor and hulk) Also survived being gamma irradiated during immortal hulks run (which is crazy because toba did absorbing man DIRTY when he took hulks gamma in immortal hulk) Heck we could go crazy and argue his fights with rhino are op as rhino was created to fight and actually FOUGHt hulk b4 and held his own. Peter is nutty strong and miles is quickly closing in on him in terms of power
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r Yeah All new all different spider-man An arc called "world wide". Not surprising tho considering HERCULES has slugged him without his costume on, sent him flying through a wall, and he got back up and quickly changed out to fight. There's also morlun, an energy absorbing dimension hopping being that Peter fought for 12 hours straight with broken ribs. Morlun tore through wakandas arsenal to get to the black panther of that time(shuri). Tanking their vibranium missiles, tearing apart vibranium nets, and killing men left and right Mind u vibranium is OP in marvel. And wakandas tech is far above what America had to offer(even Tony stark comes up short, Reed richards may be the only 1 who can match it). Morlun at the start of spider verse(2099s comics) breaks into an alt universe avengers tower, casually bodies wolverine with a punch after logan stabs him(morlun brushes it off) absorbs captain mar-vell, absorbs 2099 spidey, and then leaves so fast ppl don't see him go. Morlun isn't even the worst of his family. Deimos(older bro) and solus(the father) are stronger. Solus took on and killed captain universe spider-man. A spidey who, in terms of scaling, is above a being like Odin. Who can nullify fires on the ygdrasil, as well as threaten the multiverse with his power. Captain universe could beat up goku from dragonball super if he wanted. More than likely beerus and whis too.
Technically speaking Peter has been holding back the entire time from the very beginning he literally could punch a person so hard that they literally could become blood Mist and that's without combining with things like venom or the unipower the Phoenix Force which he actually probably could in this version of your scenario.
I've never realized how perfect the MHA world would be for Peter. But knowing his writers, it would come with the most gut wrenching horrid situation for poor pete
2:18 Funny u mention that Theres a comic called "Spidey world wide' in his all new all different run Even without that, his adventures have taken him to different planets, dimensions, and planes of reality Mans is so high up there the master weaver, a spider god, pulled strings to bring him back to life after being killed by a multiversal threat called morlun. Peter is famous across the web of life for beating an inheritor (who were supposedly unbeatable) not once, but twice on his own. After that, hes gone on to beat morlun 3 more times. The devil(mepisto) also attempts to take his soul by corrupting him.because in the end of days, Peter/mayday(his daughter) are the final hero standing and manage to stop him from taking over earth. Cable also speaks on him being #1 hero in the future. So even in marvel theres precedence for it Crazy right?
I disagree on Shigaraki. There's a very easy counter here, and it's one that can be accomplished with just his standard webs. Just web a finger. One on each hand. Peter's smart enough to figure that out. And since Shigaraki can't activate his quirk, he might as well be a regular guy. And I disagree slightly about All for One. He has the power, since he has traded blows with the Hulk... but the warping would be an insta win. Other than that, great analysis.
The problem with this is that Shigaraki doesn't need all 5 fingers, he can use any of them. Now, if this is Pre-MVA? Spidey can win quite easily but post MVA? He loses.
Also... Peter isnt above killing people. He will if he needs to, and a threat like Shigaraki would be it. He isnt Batman with a strict code, he just doesnt want, he would rather they reform but they never do.
I bet Spider-man would tie Shigaraki's hands with his webs like he did that time he fought with Wolverine. he tied his hands pointing against his head so if he released his claws he would stab himself. And I think he would create something very specific to fight All for One, just like that time he made a multiverse webshooter.
11:38 Ngl? Id argue beatong morlun, firelord, survuving a fall from space to earth, running the fade with the pheonix twins, juggernaut, and surviving hercules, etc Means hed be far above what all might can do even at his best
I mean it depends on what version you use. Some of his versions legit get dogwalked by season 1 Todoroki. Some of his versions are basically gods. Powerscaling of characters in Marvel or DC is extremely inconsistent unless you use specific comics or timelines with consistent feats
@thegreatestoctopus9739 Ah, an issue with ur logic ? I only mentioned mainline 616 Peter parker I've noticed many of those not well informed on comics run to the "it's a different version" argument when 9 times out 10 it's really not. Sure theres a multiverse, but most that understand spidey know what to pull from. Would u like me to explain how spider verse comics connects to mainline comics?
@@chriss.249 oh I'm not saying that the specific feats you used were all from different comics, I'm just saying that different Spider-Man's have wildly different power levels. For example MCU Spiderman would not be stronger than All Might
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 If I may? Why wouldnt u go with the source material? Mcu spidey is an adaptation of 616 spidey (also 1610 which is also an adaptation of 616 but for more modern audiences).
@@chriss.249 MCU may be an adaptation of 616 Spider-Man but his feats put him seriously beneath All Might or Deku so he just wouldn't be No1, he wouldn't even be No2
So heres the thing you actually do misinterpret. While not htting with enough force to change the weather, Spiderman IS stronger physically than All Might. His Strength is perportionate to that of a Spider. His best feat of Strength is holding up the Daily Bugle building calced to be 100,000 tons. Yes Press strength is different from punching strength, but because of Newton's laws, him lifting that building meant he also was exerting 100,000 tons of force onto the ground. His punches without holding back would shatter most bones in that person's face. Plus if He's seen Decay in action, Spider Sense is 100% gonna activate the moment Shigaraki even tries to touch him, oh and lets not forget he has multiple suits, including the Velocity suit which made him into a bonafied Speedster
Also forgot to mention that he is also able to tap into the powers of the other a god-like spider that can make him increase his power eventually to the point where he has a stinger that can literally kill gods coming out of Spider-Man's wrist and what is worst is apparently he can shoot it out of his wrist as well.
11:45 yeah about that Spider-Man has dog walked a silver surfer level dude before so while he dont show it much Peter is planetary. Also he is strong enough to hurt the hulk(he does need to go all out though)
Both of those are outlier feats; Spiderman has stated he can’t beat Ben Grim on his best day, and loses to people planetary characters would one shot constantly
@@dragoonsmash1395 If he could beat Ben he would have stated otherwise. Rhino beat him, Punisher beats him constantly, Wolverine beat him, Tombstone has beaten him, Captain America has beaten him, Kingpin rivals him in strength, etc
Probably the closest to Spider-Man's Nomu it would be Venom - has his abilities and then some, but mainly the ability to counter his spider-sense (Kraken has also done this through the use of mind-altering drugs).
Some of spidey's villains are avenger level threat, like Mysterio once defeated everyone almost takes over the world. Then spider man realizes its Mysterio and tales him down in minutes.
before watching, assuming there is no jameson attacking him all the time, i could see it happening because he has the personality that can make people like him.
I see spider-man going all out vs dabi if he sees him kill someone ignoring all burns (like when he literally survived two phoenix force users by making them fight between each other and surviving a volcano exploding after they knock out each other)
There is one thing I want to mention, because my first though when you mentioned him being weaker than All Might, is the instance when Spiderman beat the Hulk in arm wrestling. If we take that at face value he is physically stronger than the Hulk, who I can guarantee outscales all of MHA
You’d be surprised but Spider-Man actually scales very high legitimately the only characters that are problems are shigaraki because of the insta kill of decay but without decay Spider-man has survived so many insane things his durability is just crazy when you read into it and his strength isn’t a joke either even hulk acknowledges that “hey this bug guy here is actually decently strong” so scaling wise he would actually do incredible just because his durability and attacking power is bonkers hell his speed and reaction even more so as he basically has a even better version of danger sense that operates in a different universe than the main one (yall need to read up on the spider sense it’s actually crazy busted). Essentially Spider-Man has tanked cosmic blasts falling from space and a whole other mountain of feats. On average you can scale his reaction to basically instant Becuase of how busted spider sense is. This of course is taking higher end feats but the ones that mainly stay consistent are his spider sense, reaction time, speed, and his best attribute his genius level intellect that rivals Mr. Fantastic when he was Peter’s age
peter is a god (not literally but god damn is he powerful, responsible, and literally has precognition that cant be affected by even the most powerful telepaths venom bloodline is they ONLY things able to get around it) edit: for the killing thing, spider-man only dosent kill "people" he has killed aliens, robots, and zombies plenty before, and as for the "usj nomu" who said he needs to punch it? web it until it cant move then rip the head off
Great video but I have to say You're really underestimating what Peter can do physically. He usually holds back which is why he does seem to get his butt kicked but when he goes all out he is one of the strongest characters in marvel on the short list of powerhouses he's beaten is Firelord, the Hulk and Doctor Doom
Spider-Man at his peak strength can lift around 100-125 tons. One of Hulk's lowest strength feat is lifting 1 billion Tons. Spidey is NOT overpowering The Hulk.
11:33 it was states In the comics that when Peter first got his powers he could lift 22 tons and here we are talking about a much more experience and stronger Peter so I would say he has a good chance at beating a nomu
Yeah... He's forgetting that Spidey is holding back. A Nomu in MHA is nothing to Spidey as he went up against Kingpin who went up against Captain America, stalemated Daredevil, and tanked hits from Victor Von Doom. Spidey is physically stronger than people think he is. He's just holding back because he doesn't want to hurt people. But if you push him enough and he stops talking? That's the sign for any rogue that they F'ed up.
@@CDV007Otto fucking punched scorpion’s jaw off on accident. If Peter was really trying to put a stop to someone, he could. Also his webbing is able trap the hulk for a minutes in most continuities so he could easily restrain almost every nomu and villains. Also Spidey could beat shigaraki, easily let’s be real here.
Nah lol Kingpin is literally just an enhanced human. He ain't that strong. Cap is peak human but sub 1 ton, daredevil has human levrl strength. Fully irrelevant
One issue I do foresee if Spiderman were to make heroing his entire job is burnout. The only times Peter gets a break from the hero life, his anchor to peace is his job and girlfriend. If he was given the chance to become a full time hero, I can see him burning himself out on multiple occasions and being forced to take breaks. It could be an interesting plot if there was some sorta crossover or something though.
Really well made video. One thing that is also important is that peters spider-sense is represented to varying degrees in media, one case of this is him being able to sense danger toward other people, this is shown in amazing spider-man issue 8 (the one where norman osborn becomes good) although it is shown as extremely overwhelming, another example is from the short-lived 2003 MTV series where peter is depicted as being able to sense danger happening to others from far away. I found it funny that if you allowed him this power it would make him an exceptionally good crimefighter as he'd always be the first one to respond to a crime in his vicinity meaning that he would basically hog up alot of the hero work this applies double or even triple to Daredevil (Who I'd love for you to do a video on) who can perceive info from miles away, hearing if a crime could occur using his unique sense. I hope to see more videos in the future 👍
I don't think AFO could activate Spider-Man's powers because it isn't a quirk but he's definitely most likely fatally injuring him at the least. I still think he's beating Shigaraki, even with his quirk awakening, since he is very fast and able to avoid him by using webs. Just web him and keep him in the air, Insomniac style.
Bro, great video. I hope your channel succeed. Oh, also may i suggest this be a series? Because this idea, is very interesting and overall just creative, sure it's more explored in fan fiction but even then it's limited. Some possible ideas, are people from OPM, HxH and even One Piece
By the way, I'm really enjoying how this video focuses specifically on 616 Spider-Man from the main comics. It's nice to see more in-depth attention on the original version of the character.
Thanks for watching and thank you for the kind words! It was really cool looking over 616 again and seeing what applies to another one of my favourite universes!
I mean Spider-man would probably be annoyed by the amount of fan attention he's getting, since everybody there worships heroes. He just wants to eat his chili dog in peace
I want to remind you that Spiderman can make suit like the allmight have against all for one that can give him the edge after all the most dangerous aspects of Spider-Man is his brain unlike many heroes peter is both extremely smart and strong he won't just rellay on his power like most pro hero he will plan ahead use his allies and all advantages to win after nearly 99% of people in MHA universe have 0 chances in taking shigerake or all for one head on . Besides what stop all might from giving one for all for Spiderman i mean he is the best successor he can have and have much potential the duke .
Damn, if these are the videos you're gonna be making I'd be on board. I've always wondered how heroes from different comics and movies would do in this universe.
Question about all for one: his abilities lean more towards quirks but Spiderman doesn't have a quirk, he has something alined with mutation than a (technical) disease like quirks
It really depends on your interpretation, AFO can mess with quirks which are more like x-gene mutations so if you don't think Spider-Man's bite is close enough to something like that All For One's powers against quirk users (unless we get some information saying other wise) wouldn't work on Spider-Man. Even though he isn't a mutant it did genetically alter him so I'd argue it's close enough to have some kind of effect on Spider-Man, but at the end of the day it's all fiction and just a fun discussion between fans. Thanks for watching! 😊
I have read quite a few Soiderman crossover stories with My hero Academia ( each of them quite good reads so far ) can certainly say this is a good and accurate listing, and in many of them where he’s a student in U.A. He interns under Miruko a lot, in others teams up with her as partners, so makes sense to compare the two, so nicely done and very great detail work and study. Love the video and nicely done, consider me subscribe to ya, and as a Spider-Man fan, thank you for giving Peter justice
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 I mean yeah getting powers from a radioactive spider bite sounds unrealistic even for the world of MHA, But getting powers from a genetically altered spider bite could be a thing in MHA
One thing to consider here is that quirks tend to be very limited in their versatility. The top heroes were all very lucky to gain or inherit quirks that had decent versatility. Spider Man on the other hand has extreme versatility with just his webs alone. Tack on his spider sense, his ability to stick to (nearly) any surface, and his incredible acrobatic skills, he definitely would have the means to top the charts.
Dude, I don't know if it's just me, but your voice looks a lot like RuggedEagle's Anyway, amazing video and editing, hope your channel grows, man... or, since the video is a spider-man in MHA universe, "go even further, Plus Ultra"
Honestly Pete interacting and being friends with All Might would be great to see. He's already friends with Captain America and had a crossover with Superman. They would immediately hit it off.
Making Spider-Man rush to fights against people like Dabi or Shigaraki with no plan or preparation is not accurate to who he is. Taking away Spider-Man’s ability to create gadgets/plans for specific villains is a major detriment. Spider-Man’s greatest asset is not his strength, it’s his intellect. Even without his spider powers, he would still be a great inventor. A Spider-Man who doesn’t use his intellect is in reality just some guy with spider powers. That’s not Spider-Man. Realistically, what’s the purpose of taking away Peter’s intellect for this what-if? If he were to actually go to the MHA universe, Peter would definitely integrate the tech in their universe into his arsenal. Just like how he constantly creates gadgets to deal with his own rogues gallery, he’d do the same for people like Dabi or Shigaraki. What’s Dabi gonna do when he’s encased in an enclosed dome with limited oxygen to burn? What‘s stain gonna do when he can’t lick any blood with a mouthful of web? Realistically, he even has ways of dealing with Shigaraki or All for One. We know technology to steal quirks exists since that’s how Dr. Kyudai stole quirks for a while, so realistically what’s stopping Peter from upgrading that tech and using it himself? Spider-Man has been able to deal with characters much stronger than himself this way before. It’s also worth pointing out that Spider-Man has an extra advantage that the other heroes don’t have: His powers don’t come from a quirk. A quirk isn’t just another word for a superpower. They’re a very specific thing in the MHA universe, which Peter doesn’t have. He doesn’t even have his universe’s parallel to quirks: the X-gene. Spider-Man is not in the X-Men team for a reason. Stuff that affect the powers of mutants don’t usually affect Peter, so realistically quirk manipulation wouldn’t affect him either. That means that Shigaraki wouldn’t be able to steal his powers, and All For One wouldn’t be able to activate them to mess with him. An actual story of Spider-Man going to the MHA universe would truly be sick. He’d definitely need the help of others to succeed, but he would succeed. He might need a few montages of him creating a gadget for a villain (like in Spider-Man PS4), but not even the heaviest hitters would be able to keep Peter down for long.
I feel like Spider-Man outlast his opponent in most situations Or dodge the attacks with his Spider sense not to mention it allowed Spider-Man to dodge thunder And all for one would probably not be able to tamper with his abilities because it’s not a quark As For damage, he’ll just drag out the battle until he wins
Just a little thing you might not have found in your research is that in the strength department, there's a comic where Spider-Man punched the grey Hulk to the atmosphere and stuck to him to follow him
Wasn't he slowly becoming cosmic spiderman along that point, then got downgraded when the powers left him? (Long time no read, so please fact check me if i'm wrong.)
@@boostsix8367he has great durability feats and resistance surviving the heat of a dying star tanking hits from phoenix hosts also blitz’s the avengers and x men on multiple occasions
Another factor is that Spider-man's often always fighting someone or something stronger than him, so he has to be tactical about it. His quips, the environment, everything he can use he will use because he never runs from a fight unless he has to. When looking at a lot of heroes in MHA, the often stay in their own lanes and only go after villains they know they can beat or their quirk can counter easily. The rest of the time, they just use brute force for intimidation. Spider-man goes into fights knowing that he can lose them, which makes him fight harder to win. That's a factor that makes a huge difference in the fighting styles and individual perspective in a fight. If he saw the sludge villain, he wouldn't hang back and wait for someone else to step in because "his powers aren't suitable", he'd charge in and figure something out on the fly because a kid's in danger.
Honestly you did your homework on this like honestly every single time I was about to question what you said you gave an answer for it is that show that you actually did your homework on Spider-Man as much as the my hero academia universe as you’re not playing favoritism and you’re not trying to make a silly oh Spider-Man could do this than a third you’re actually putting out the fact that Spider-Man is not perfect he is a great hero he could be the number one hero but the fact that these are two different universities where he could be looked at as maybe close to being number one it’s hard to see society giving him that placeholder especially when it comes down to certain factors. Like honestly I love the fact that you gave Spider-Man his props and everything that represents him as a person to where I was just having nostalgia listening to this and I hope that you continue to be great because this was chefs kiss type of video that I needed. Gotta remember with great videos come great responsibility.
In fact, Spider-Man is stronger than All Might because the tornado he created was after the blow, that is, the tornado was the shock wave of All Might's attack, but Spider-Man already survives something very worse, as the Human Torch's attack has the same power as a sun and already survives an explosion that destroys the interior of a building, meaning that Spider-Man's blows are stronger than All Might's :)
Great video. Love your editing style (you’re wild for including those lizard backshots) and your writing is so really solid. This is a topic I’ve been thinking about for ages and have wanted to see explored. I have some thoughts on the topic (I am a Spidey Glazer) but if you don’t wanna read my several paragraph long rant thats fine.
There are two key things about Spider-Man that I think would be a huge help in a fight against people like AFO, Nomu, etc.
First thing is his origin. If this Peter was still bitten by a radioactive spider, then it stands to reason that Forced Quirk Activation and other Quirks that specifically affect Quirks (like Erasure and All For One itself) would not work on him, as they work by manipulating the specific genetic traits of Quirks (mainly the quirk factor), which Spider-Man would not have due to him being “Quirkless”. (This would also give him an advantage against opponents who can view the quirks of others, as they would be confused or underestimate his abilities upon seeing he has no Quirk.)
Second point, which you obviously know about but I feel carries aids him in these fights far more than people realise is his Spider-Sense. Peter’s spider-sense warns him not just of where danger is coming from, but it also tells him the intensity of the danger by the intensity of the tingling, which would tell him almost exactly how dangerous his opponents are. I believe him knowing exactly how dangerous someone like AFO, Shigaraki or Dabi is would prompt him to utilise his full strength (or at least a far greater portion of it than usual) right off the bat, which would take most opponents like Dabi or Shigarak by surprise, as Spidey is more known for beating up purse snatchers than immense feats of strength/speed. (Spider-Sense is broken as shit and can also override his muscles to dodge if he is incapable of reacting in time.) If nothing else he would put up a decent fight by striking and then backing off at high speed.
On a more general note, I feel like Spider-Man’s peak strength level would be comparable to Deku at around 30-50%(maybe more or less as I am not fully caught up on the anime so may be unaware of specific feats). Peter spends so much time holding back that most of the times we do see how strong he is are non-striking feats like lifting up the Daily Bugle and taking the full force of a landing plane, but a truly no holds barred spidey is capable of blitzing/overwhelming opponents far stronger than him.
I think base Spider-Man would be capable of defeating the USJ Nomu either by restraining it with his webbing and then defeating it the same way All Might did (albeit with far more effort), as he has been shown to be capable of both recognising weaknesses in his opponents abilities and speed blitzing characters before [a former herald of galactus with the power cosmic being the biggest one that comes to mind] (I recall him wearing the black suit at the time, which may nullify this feats relevance unless its the cloth version).
Speaking of, I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on how Symbiote Spider-Man would fair against some of the villains you talked about, such as the USJ Nomu, Gigantomachia, and AFO, as the symbiote has been stated to provide a flat 2x multiplier to his stats.
Thanks so much for the great comment! I'm gonna do my best to give you a long comment in response!
First off, I didn't expect the forced quirk thing to be as much of a talking point as it has been in this comments section - while I totally understand (and agree to an extent) that people believe that Spider-Man would be unaffected by the quirk stealing/activation powers, I don't think it should be as black and white as people think. A lot of it seems to stem from "he wasn't born with his powers, so it wouldn't work." but we've seen people that have had quirks that they weren't born with (later in the series, so no spoilers) stolen from them by the All For One quirk. While it's not quite the same because the nature of quirks and the spider that bit Peter are narratively and functionally different, they do both genetically alter the user - and that's really where my comparison came from. It was only really mentioned by me as kind of a "food for thought" point and not much else and again, I wasn' t really expecting anyone to look that closely at it, but I'm glad I'm able to have this kind of discussion with viewers regardless of if they're open to him being effected by All for One or not.
Yes, Spider-Sense does certainly give him more of an edge than anything else in these fights and are honestly why I didn't really mention any other villains other than the ones that I did since Spider-Sense makes them kind of a non-factor because he's so much faster. And that's not even acknowledging that he's much stronger than a lot of these guys too. I think a really important part about Spider-Man's character is that he really knows how to play his role in a bunch of different scenarios, so while I wasn't confident in his ability to 1v1 Shigaraki or AFO, he does genuinely give them a whole new level of difficulty by being such a tricky person to put down for good.
Thirdly, he could definitely defeat the USJ Nomu (if he even had to fight it, since it's already dead LOL) but the quirk is a direct counter to his main way of winning fights (punches) because it's entire purpose is to absorb impacts. You're right in saying he could restrain it though or something similar. I don't doubt Spider-Man's ability to speed blitz but the Firelord thing has always stuck out to me as a bit of an outlier. I'm really not much of a powerscaler as I don't find much fun in it, but I think that one feat is inconsistent with a lot of the other ones he has - but it's fiction and not real so if people want to believe that then power to them! A fan of Spider-Man is always a friend of mine, regardless of I agree or disagree with some of their takes.
As for the symbiote suit thing, that's a good question. It was left out of this video as it kind of goes against the typical Spider-Man storytelling. I don't recall that multiplier statement but it certainly does amp him up, that's for sure. I think he'd defeat the USJ Nomu without the symbiote suit, so I just imagine he's a little meaner towards it LOL. As for Gigantomachia, you could probably argue he could hurt him a little like Endeavor did, but I'm still not confident he'd traditionally "beat" Gigantomachia. Same argument for AFO to an extent, especially since the ending of the series painted him slightly differently - by the time I had wrote and recorded this, his final battle hadn't happened yet so I obviously couldn't speak on it. Without spoiling anything, unless I'm misremembering his battle, there's definitely some kind of argument for Spider-Man beating All for One now but it'd be difficult for him LOL.
Really the whole reason I made this video was to highlight 2 of my favourite fictional universes and see how well they go together and I'm glad it resonated a little with other fans too. Again, thanks so much for watching and leaving a really nice and cool comment!
@ I was surprised to see such a long response but I’m very happy to receive it. Thank you for taking the time to write such a long reply!
I agree that the whole spider powers thing could go either way, it depends entirely on how the mutation is explained. Like, you could say the bite latched onto and combined with dormant Quirk genes (for lack of a better term) in Peter’s DNA, mutating/activating them (allowing him to be affected by Forced Quirk Activation and the like). Or you could say that it simply mutated his DNA in an unrelated way (meaning he is unaffected). There are no right or wrong answers with hypotheticals like this, and it’s interesting to see all the differing perspectives as someone who really enjoys thinking about them.
I think he could fight AFO for a while just by virtue of Spider-Sense but I doubt he’d be able to take him down able without being seriously injured or killed. Spidey has managed to outspeed Daredevil’s radar sense in the past but its hard to say whether he’d be able to do the same to AFO due to the vast difference in speed and reaction time between him and DD.
I feel he could easily solo Shigaraki Pre-Awakening pretty easily, though Post-Awakening is a huge maybe and depends on how seriously both sides take the fight. He’d definitely be visiting Uncle Ben up in Heaven if he tried to take him on solo during the whole war arc since he’s got AFO and that puts him on a whole other level. The only Spidey villain I can think of thats comparable to Gigantomachia is Sandman in his giant form (like in Raimi/Insomniac), but then again Sandman has (relatively) easy weaknesses to exploit in water and heat and even then he struggles with him. The only way I see him taking down Gigantomachia is by bringing him down with webs (like Ant-Man in CW) and restraining him long enough for a group of other heroes to swoop in and help knock him out, but that would definitely need to be a team effort.
The firelord thing is a bit of an outlier, yea. I agree that Comic power-scaling is very wack and Spider-Man’s strength varies quite a bit from story to story. Once again, it all comes down to who’s writing the story/hypothetical. If they want Spidey to one shot All Might with a triple backflip roundhouse kick to the dick then thats what’ll happen. If they want him to die instantly in one punch then that’ll happen.
I brought up the Symbiote in my original comment cause I just think it’s neat to think about. I can’t find where I heard the 2x multiplier statement, so I’ll retract that. I do think the Black Suit/Venom would make for an interesting discussion. I imagine a MHA version of The Symbiote being a Nomu as opposed to an alien, as that works well to explain its multiple abilities (shapeshifting, power boosting, etc) and personality without having to break canon too much by going “oh yea aliens exist and they only care about Spider-Man, don’t worry about it”.
Overall I really enjoyed watching your video and reading your reply to my comment, I really do look forward to seeing more! You did a great job!
Um if I might make a comment on Pete's peak strength I feel like he would be stronger than Deku.
Mostly because you have comics were a serious ANGRY Peter has one shot people like Rhino who've been compared to and stated to match Juggernaut and Hulk. Then there's all the times where Peter has fought multiple people on par with Hulk, Captain Marvel and such stupidly strong planet buster at MINIMUM.
Like Peter holds back a LOT MORE THAN PEOPLE THINK
Imagine if they would fight a depressed version of spider man they wouldn’t last a second in their fight because before they know it they face has been ripped off (I get that shigaraki and decay him buts that’s if he can react fast enough to spider since as a depressed spider man like in the comics he can move ridiculously fast and I mean ridiculously fast as in a literally heartbeat fast)
Holy yap
you also gotta realize, one of the main struggles Spidey has is his work life balance, but in the world of MHA that would be a non issue since Pro hero is an actual profession, Pete would probably just be a pro hero, so that would only make him even MORE active, since he'd normally have to split his time between work, being a hero and his personal life, but in the MHA world two of those become one and he becomes that much more effective and present
Not to mention his academics, more often then not, Peter is attending school of some kind; whether it is high school, college, or participating in a scientific study.
Known Peter, he’s going to become a vigilante.
@@Wizardwarlock324He's gonna have that Bully Maguire arc
@@Wizardwarlock324I don’t think so, it just depend on society. He would be a hero no matter if he gets paid or not. If the government told him not the save someone he wouldn’t listen.
We need a mha spiderman fan fic crossover, like now!😎✌️
Endeavor: What is his secret?! He must be some master manipulator or hold some secret power to achieve #1!
Spider-Man(Whose entire motivation for heroism stems from an extreme trauma response due to the death of a loved one): You just gotta lock in bro, get good
This is 1,000% an in character response.
Spider man: it's easy bro you just gotta tank a lvl 3 X factor Vergil with his devil trigger on
@@dudesayshi2191 bro is gonna grab a villian and hit with the chain "SEE YA LATER"
@@danielbarnes1241 he's gonna hit him with the hyper combo special
@@dudesayshi2191 Maximum Spider gg
With the sh*t Spider-Man does on a daily basis, he deserves to be a universal legend. Forget being Number 1 hero. That's nothing.
@@CrazyK-cp5hi
I wouldnt say a daily basis, but the events of spider verse, the negative zone, and time traveling from cable does get him in the history books.
The master weaver (a spider god) cared about him so much to where he rewrote part of the web of life to bring spidey back even tho he was fated to die to morlun.
Making him(b4 spider verse) the ONLY spider totem to have beaten an inheritor
@@chriss.249 who would win between peter and miles
Goku slams
@@Kai_DX862 u just come here to say Goku slams when we are not talking about Goku
@@Kai_DX862 who cares
I feel like Pete would be more efficient as a hero in the MHA universe due to not having to worry about actually having an alternate job for income though i think he would still keep his identity a secret he can still register as a hero and get paid
I mean, people don't know all might identity
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Essentially AllMight is a vigilante as well?
@@CDV007no it’s just not public information just like how no one knows jsclatts name
It would be like an Avengers situation where only the top heroes and the guys in charge would know his secret identity. Everyone else doesn’t need to know for him to work as a pro hero.
@@DragonTrainer201 Like a luchador.
I love the fact that Spider-Man could, and technically does, operate as both a Hero and as a Support-Item Technician/Engineer!
His secret identity as Peter Parker could just be Parker Industries with support items for other heroes!!
So his secret identity could be giving Spider-Man his gear instead of being someone who takes Spider-Man’s photos.
Would that make someone like tony primarily a support technician first and a hero second? If he was in the mha universe that is.
He definitely could as he wanted to use his company to help people not for war so this would be fitting for him as a person.
@@ElfireII Because of his selfishness i think he would make lots of gadgets but save the best for him
@@ElfireII He would probably have been a support technician before his 'origin story' experience, but then utilizing some of his gear to become a Hero himself, while his company is still in the Hero Support market.
Which could make him the testbed and posterboy for his company, it's products, and even for the Quirkless who wanna become superheroes.
I feel like Spidey would actually be respected in the MHA world.
I mean no need to hide his identity, no crazy news reporters trying to ruin his reputation, and he gets paid for his work.
I feel like there would still be crazy news reporters after him. But everyone would just see them as crazy.
I feel like his writers woukd find a way to get his ass through entire dimensions somehow because they just want to ruin his life that much
Plus technically he could still do the secret identity thing because look at All Might and how basically no one knew his identity for a good while. And Peter could make support items as a side hustle because his web shooters would make perfect non-lethal capture items.
All the villains gotta watch out for is this. If he comes after you and he isn't laughing, making jokes or is silent. You better hope you can run as fast as tenya
Ya even still he would have trouble with the top hitters of mha
His only problems are all for one and maybe gigantama.
@@moonknight5461You have to remember, all we know about Spider-Man is that he has “the proportional strength of a spider” with the resourced the hero association has he could probably do some SERIOUS body building and grow his strength exponentially, sure he’s never going to punch as hard as all might, but he might get pretty damn close, plus the pure INTIMIDATION of a Spider-Man who isn’t laughing goes hard
@@StusheepRemember, of all of the Avengers, he's the third strongest one, only behind Thor and Hulk, so if we factor in giving him proper training, and villains that can actually take hits, he should have no reason to hold back as much, so he could potentially hit way harder than All Might, if he doesn't already, that is
@@Hugo-yz1vb No he's not. The thing you're referencing is from a very old comic where the only powerhouses of the Avengers were Thor and Hulk. But with the introduction of people like Captain Marvel who pack enough power to blow up a planet, his strength ranking has fallen way down.
11:45 Peter can exert at least 15 tons of force with a single punch, his webs are no joke, and I fully believe he could handle a high end Nomu if he has his gadget’s on him - in the context of a raid, he would. Considering the nonsense Peter has pulled off with raw strength, willpower and intelligence, I’m certain he’d make it out of there
Pimp slapping the hulk would put him here.
Are we also ignoring the fact the in terms of body compatibility spiderman is the only one that can actually last with mirko? Iykyk what i mean.
@@kernabrahambarrios8840now you got me thinking which female MHA heroes and villains would join Pete's harem
Mirko would probably be one of the firsts to join in since they're both incredibly agile, strong, and athletic
@@kernabrahambarrios8840they also are both canonically caked tf up
Power wise(somehow), it depends on the comic you use.
In some comics, Peter scales stupidly high to face against a villain that would one tap AFO.
But thats just comics.
in other comics, recent ones too, he gets his ass handed to him by regular Vulture and begs for help from others. comics
@essdeebass2411 Yup. The various degrees of power for the sake of story baffles me.
Japanese spiderman's mech has a sword that can canonically one shot anything but it's only ever gotten used 3 times in comics.
Stan Lee has put it above everything else so it's literally the enima forces deus ex machina but the mech always gets broken within the 1st panel it's shown.
Cosmic Spider-Man would forehead flick AFO and he would die LMAO
@@Potato_Yeeter cosmic spider-man isnt regular spider-man dawg thats like bringing Superman one Million into topics
Yeah i honestly agree with your thoughts in this video. Spidermans reputation and feats would give him the seat of the number one spot but hes not exactly invincible which is what most people think anyway but Spider-man overall tenacity and will to never give up in the most dire situations and his drive just to help is what would make him a really great hero in my hero academia. He definitely has the potential but i dont think Peter would truly want to be number one hero in the first place since Spider-man doesnt really care about the fame and stuff and due to him not really valuing money much he is just guy who really just wants the best for his city his home and thats one of the things that make Spiderman great especially as hero. He knows he cant save everyone but he at least tries his best. And also dude this was a great video keep up the good work and thanks for doing a vid on the goat himself Spider-man!
Thanks so much for watching, I really appreciate the comment! :)
@@TheGremlinks No problem dude
We officially nominate Spider-Man as the world's Number One Hero.
Spiderman: Thanks but no thanks. I only do this to help, not for the fame or publicity. *Scoots off awkwardly*
Where are you going?
Spiderman: Nowhere, just my Spidey senses and all. *Swings out a window*
H-He'll be back...right?
Saying Spider-Man is not beating a nomu has me crying 😭😭💀💀
I would say that Peter’s power honestly would be top tier easily, but his problem is the fact that the hero holds back and lacks destructive stuff. After all, when forced into a game by the literal Devil, Spidey was able to survive against his entire rogues gallery solo for hours (which includes Morlun, who Peter thought was tougher than the Hulk and Thor), his body when used by Otto was able to budge the Hulk and Thor when they were restraining him, Iron Man has admitted that even with preparation, he’s scared of fighting Spider-Man (which is fair, considering that in the Civil War event and a What of for it, Peter bested Iron Man) and in the Classic comics, without the symbiote, Spider-Man was able to fight a former Herald of Galactus that still possessed the power of Cosmic on his own, and the moment he locked in to protect people, he actually won without realising until Captain America stopped him. The only problem he has there is the fact that Peter holds back so much, to the point where Chasm (a clone of Peter that had known him for years) outright stated that Spider-Man has been doing it so often and for so long, he doesn’t even realise it anymore in the more modern comics.
It takes the venom symbiote (the one who hasn't gone through Flash Thompson yet, in an ALTERNATE UNIVERSE (in fact most of the instances of him going all out are in alternate universes)) for him to even remove those limiters nowadays
@ true. Which honestly makes the moments where Base Spider-Man cuts loose completely that much more terrifying.
@@jakejohnson718Peter doesn’t need the symbote to go all out it just makes him stronger.
Stop scaling Spider-Man to hulk
@ No
Spider-man is truly our hero 😔✋
he is our hero academia 🥹
@@TheGremlinks the real hero academia was the friends we made along the wya
Goku victim
@@Kai_DX862 nuh uh
@@Kai_DX862who brought that up?
I think what makes Spider-Man "polarizing" to the public is because of his secret identity. If I'm not wrong, the Avengers and the Fantastic Four in general have their identity in public. People know who they are outside their hero identity.
Now, If we place Spider-Man in the MHA world and his lore and tendencies would still be relatively the same, I think he would still be a polarizing hero. I would not think he would be a registered hero in their world, making him a vigilante (Since he would get his powers in his HS days which I would presume Peter would not be studying in a "hero HS", he would not be able to train and be a registered, unless you can still register even without high school training). This would probably not place him in a favorable outlook in public, especially by the media and maybe even some heroes. Sure, Spidey will inevitably still garner praises from townsfolk and some heroes but there would still be a form of criticism since the argument would be that other heroes also risk the lives of their love ones since they are registered heroes and are public individuals. If this is the case, he wouldn't even be ranked in the hero billboard.
Of course, my statement will only presume if Spider-Man didn't register as a hero and did not go public. If he did, he's definitely high in the heroes ranking.
I did consider the vigilante approach to be another path he could take and I think it offers a genuinely interesting discussion, though it didn't fit the initial subject of the video so I stuck to the pro hero critera to make it more streamlined LOL. Will probably mention something like this about any fitting characters I talk about in later episodes of this (soon to be) series. Thanks for watching and leaving a really cool comment!
Yeah going public is pretty much a deal breaker for Peter, which is a requirement to be a pro hero. This was basically what the first Civil War was about and he went through huge lengths to retcon his doxxing. No way he's down for that.
@@mothkiller its not a requirement tho,underground heroes are unkown by the public, all mights name wasnt known by the public, hell no one knew what the dude looked like
@@nolifegaming181 interesting, yeah eraser was an underground pro hero. as i recall, pro heroes seemed to all belong to an agency which would mean that they'd have to be public, at least known by whoever issues licenses. everyone is required to register their quirks and provide updates when they evolve. its true that All Might's identity wasn't widely known. He did go out of his way to hide his de-powered form so that would explain why people wouldnt recognize him on the streets.
10:27 friendly reminder that spiderman beat colossus and magik while both were imbued with the phoenix force
he didnt beat them in a fist fight, but yeah he defeat them
survived hits from them, and then tricked them into beating each other, but yeah.
You have to remember a huge problem for Peter is balancing both his hero life, and real life without exposing his identity.
In my hero, heroes are normalized, that would take a huge weight off his back with his incredible stamina.
Incredible first video. I'll stick around.
Spider-Man be taking down 6 villains at once HE SOLOS
Bro if a "Spiderman" variant of Peter Parker existed in MHA, All Might would have made him his successor for sure. (Just forget about what OFA does to users who already have Quirks😂)
No he would’ve maid mirio his successor
@@Kai_DX862 Dude this is his what if scenario, how the fuck you gonna tell him no? huuuh?
I think Mario IS a Spider-man variant,it has has Penn state Crude web of life that there are multiverses of spider-man And 2 no spider-man are the same. And if not I think mirio is a in universe parody of Peter
Does anyone know how to edit a sentence [ ( I meant to write "It's Been stated through the web of life" and And you can see what What it wrote Instead 😅) I can't spell very good so I'm been using the microphone feature Instead ]
@@CadenManley-w9udepends on if you're on mobile or not. If on mobile, there should be three dots in the upper right part of the comment and let you edit.
Just to throw this out here. Spider -Man (The PS4 version) was able to create a speedster suit that made him so fast that he was able to get a full day's worth of heroing in a half-hour (borderline faster then quicksilver). So if Peter were to make this suit again and fight against shigaraki, he could simply hit and back away from him before shigaraki can even touch him. allowing him to simply beat down on Shigaraki until he's knocked out
Shigaraki quirk awakening: 💀
All for one: ☠️
@@Kai_DX862shhh, let them glaze
@@sadikicaine4881
What?? No matter what Shiggy or OFA has, Spidey is more powerful and much more intelligent lmao. Better feats and everything
@@legaming2678i'm sorry but no, Shigaraki by the end was leveling entire cities easily, it is not comparable
@@nicholassgobero
Yeah.. sorry to tell you, but there’s a difference between AP and DC. Though Shiggy has more DC, Spidey’s AP is WAYYY higher, and so is his speed. It really isn’t comparable because Shiggy gets stomped unironically
10:54 NOOO WHY YOU REMIND ME OF THAT 😭😭
Nobody else has noticed that so far HAHAHAHA
What happened on that part??
@@angelluisperezplaza6898 spidey gets backshots…
@@TheGremlinks And that’s why I commented
@@Timveega oh boy
Let's not forget that spider-man is kind of a green lantern with how he manipulates his webs, able to create baseball bats, swords easily stronger than steel, functional boats like in the 60's cartoon, making maces, giant fists in half of seconds and in quick successions in shattered dimensions/edge of time.
Speaking of which, the hyper-sense, that ability allows peter to automatically dodge/evade ANY attacks and keep attacking at the same time while making him so fast that after images follow is every steps.
Lasers? just run through them.
Gunfire? What gunfire?
Temporal tentacles? Not touching that.
And i know those are from the video games, but i will not let them be forgotten or overlooked.
Tbf spidy basically has multiple quirks in my hero terms. He can cling to walls, enhanced strength, spidy sense, webs (depends on the canon) and just has that friendly hero attitude. He’s our friendly neighborhood spider man
Not really, it's his powers or quirk is spider related abilities.
@ oh yeah, I suppose that’s a better way of saying it. I guess he’s more like Tsuyu, but as a spider instead of frog
@@RedX03 Where the hell does the spider-sense fit into that quirk-wise?
@@skelebrowhovian6817 it’s literally just danger sense and that’s its own quirk
Okay just to be that guy, this heavily depends on which version of Peter we're talking about, it's surprising how common it is for Peter to be on par with hulk in terms of strength, and faster than light in terms of speed, so unless you somehow think hulk is weaker than allmight, spidey is winning with kind of shocking ease, however if you're choosing an inexperienced, weaker spidey then yeah its a lot closer
Yeah that's why i really hate using Comic characters and inserting them, like if you create an OC in MHA that is fully based on the character then it would be much better because there wouldn't be this wide net of character power, where one can maybe destroy a building while other is hurting characters that can easily destroy earth with their strenght.
@KiraiKatsuji it's honestly why I always hate anime vs comics, especially Goku v superman, cause comic characters have so many versions you can always find a version that basically wins every fight they're in
@legion3800 Same boat
Peter isn't equalling Hulk in any way unless he's using things like the Uni-Power. Him being lightspeed is consistent though. Even Iron Fist has lightspeed reactions.
It's no such thing as versions , 90s spiderman , the 616 one was already avoiding freaking laser and calling them slow
Stain might actually like Spider-Man
I think he'd adore him
Spidey is the type of hero Stain is looking for.
@@JayRedGear He might not like the idea, that spider-man get money from this, but the amount of people he would save might actually be a turning point for Stain to like Spidey
@@supermikealex9780all might was paid too. It wasn't the being paid that makes you irredeemable in stains eyes it was being motivated by money and fame
You kidding me? Stain would LOVE our favorite web-slinger
Yes, I think he could, but I also think All Might wouldn't have a problem with that and they would get along.
I agree! All Might and Spider-Man would be great friends. 😊
17:05 I'd say peter is fast enough to fight and dodge or react to anything Shigaraki does. Spidermans's combat speed is more along the lines of gearshift deku. As he's shown to be able to dodge lasers and faster than light attacks repeatedly and even with ease.
The issues yes would be hurting them but he's not incapable of it. Despite the fact he Likely isn't as strong as these afo and Shigaraki type villains who'd scale up to country level. He's still capable of hurting them to a degree most likely being comparable to mirko who could do the same. Possibly stronger. Take in mind spiderman may not be making tornados with his punches or something but he's still very strong. Theres a concept we call AP and DC. In powerscaling. Attack potency and destructive capabilities. Theses are different because for example. A character like goku. His punches Don't usually destroy the cities or mountains around him he likes to keep destruction to a minimum and can control his power very well. So despite being very capable of hurting and even beating characters who's durability matches a universe he doesn't necessarily destroy the ehole universe every time he punches.
Naruto too for example. He scales to moon to even planet level but he doesn't have any visible showings of that scale physically other than once and that was only moon level.
Krillin in dragon ball has the power level to match or surpass frieza yet we never see him destroy a single planet.
A better example is 5% deku. He makes large shovkwaves small tornados and wind pressure yet he's only building tier.
A similar thing is up with spiderman. He's very strong. Even if the range of the damage he can deal is limited he can still punch with enough force or output to match way stronger feats.
Lots of different scaling and feats as well as calcs and showings support comic spiderman bein anywhere from city level at a lowball. To mountain level. At a mid range. To large island level at a high ball. Theres also some outlier feats and such that could put him up to planet or even solar system tier. They're weirdly consistent but I Don't like using those much.
So mountain to large island is a very nice and consistent high end due to his various showings of staggering and injuring weaker versions of the hulk. Some of the mid to high range ironman armors. And many very strong characters like the x men and fantastic 4 who he consistently bullies most members of.
Also the Thing during immortal Hulk who took a punch from a weakened skinny hulk that still made him bleed a bit(split his lip) and the thing blatantly states spiderman hits harder. Despitehim not being related to the story or even showing up the thing who is impressively strong considers spiderman capable of making him bleed if only a bit.
So with a high end of large island level to match with mirko. FTL+ speeds possibly higher. With spider senses.
And an IQ that high. I'd say he can at least survive in combat.
Also Peters durability is much higher than his AP at times and any spiderman fan should know so. He gets constantly punched hit and beaten up by people he considers far stronger than him and always gets back up in one piece. So outright tanking a few hits from either afo or shiggy isn't completely outrageous.
Although if we give him the black suit the entire scenario changes. And the planet level scaling isn't off the table any more.
Also Spider-Sense is broken
I will say I want to give you contacts and more information about Spider-Man's power scaling. On the average he's actually pretty damn strong! Such as breaking venoms jaw, which the same venom was strong enough to rip iron Man armor suits in pieces. Fought against Eric masterson Thor, who was equal to OG Thor in times of physical might. Hulk and Thor even give compliment to Spider-Man's strength. And his speed is also incredibly impressive, such as dodging bullets, lightning and even lightspeed attacks. And lastly his true powers is to always gain an incredible amount of willpower to the point that even mephisto is intimidated by it.
But one of his only weakness is the fact that he holds back, is not willing to kill like most characters. But even that sometimes break under certain moment.
@@MaskfromtheHeaven it's Aaron it's Eric Masterson thor
He's also survived a fall from space to earth during all new all different spidey and was going to walk that mf off till scorpio snuck him with the zodiac key.
He's also fought morlun for 12 hours straight(anyone else street level that jumped in woulda got CLAPPED)
Fought and beat firelord(an ex galactus herald)
Superior survived a blast from Terrax
Has been shown dodging light masters blasts
A clone dodged Thor throwing mjolnir full force(and mjolnir can reach the edge of the marvel universe and back in less than a minute)
Has stunned the pheonix force twins with his attacks(magik was even trying to kill him)
Has fought off carnage surfer
Fought thanos in the astral plane and held his own(doesn't mean he could do it physically)
Survived having his back beaten on by juggernaut (who can rock with Thor and hulk)
Also survived being gamma irradiated during immortal hulks run (which is crazy because toba did absorbing man DIRTY when he took hulks gamma in immortal hulk)
Heck we could go crazy and argue his fights with rhino are op as rhino was created to fight and actually FOUGHt hulk b4 and held his own.
Peter is nutty strong and miles is quickly closing in on him in terms of power
@@chriss.249 wait wtf spiderman survive falling from space to earth 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 wow just wow
@EdehEmmanuel-d7r
Yeah
All new all different spider-man
An arc called "world wide".
Not surprising tho considering HERCULES has slugged him without his costume on, sent him flying through a wall, and he got back up and quickly changed out to fight.
There's also morlun, an energy absorbing dimension hopping being that Peter fought for 12 hours straight with broken ribs.
Morlun tore through wakandas arsenal to get to the black panther of that time(shuri). Tanking their vibranium missiles, tearing apart vibranium nets, and killing men left and right
Mind u vibranium is OP in marvel. And wakandas tech is far above what America had to offer(even Tony stark comes up short, Reed richards may be the only 1 who can match it).
Morlun at the start of spider verse(2099s comics) breaks into an alt universe avengers tower, casually bodies wolverine with a punch after logan stabs him(morlun brushes it off) absorbs captain mar-vell, absorbs 2099 spidey, and then leaves so fast ppl don't see him go.
Morlun isn't even the worst of his family. Deimos(older bro) and solus(the father) are stronger. Solus took on and killed captain universe spider-man. A spidey who, in terms of scaling, is above a being like Odin. Who can nullify fires on the ygdrasil, as well as threaten the multiverse with his power.
Captain universe could beat up goku from dragonball super if he wanted.
More than likely beerus and whis too.
@@chriss.249 yeah Hercules was holding back but still enough to solo mha
Technically speaking Peter has been holding back the entire time from the very beginning he literally could punch a person so hard that they literally could become blood Mist and that's without combining with things like venom or the unipower the Phoenix Force which he actually probably could in this version of your scenario.
I've never realized how perfect the MHA world would be for Peter. But knowing his writers, it would come with the most gut wrenching horrid situation for poor pete
Tbh i want to see cole mcgrath and delsin rowe in the my hero universe
2:18
Funny u mention that
Theres a comic called "Spidey world wide' in his all new all different run
Even without that, his adventures have taken him to different planets, dimensions, and planes of reality
Mans is so high up there the master weaver, a spider god, pulled strings to bring him back to life after being killed by a multiversal threat called morlun.
Peter is famous across the web of life for beating an inheritor (who were supposedly unbeatable) not once, but twice on his own.
After that, hes gone on to beat morlun 3 more times.
The devil(mepisto) also attempts to take his soul by corrupting him.because in the end of days, Peter/mayday(his daughter) are the final hero standing and manage to stop him from taking over earth.
Cable also speaks on him being #1 hero in the future. So even in marvel theres precedence for it
Crazy right?
@@chriss.249 about that mephisto seeing peter and his daughter stopping it's absolutely crazy
I genuinely think this is one of if not the best video I’ve watched in the last four weeks at least
Thank you, that really means a lot to me :)
NGL I’d love to see Spidey and Mirko have that similar chemistry he shares with Black Cat. And given they’re heroes, it’s a plus!
I disagree on Shigaraki. There's a very easy counter here, and it's one that can be accomplished with just his standard webs.
Just web a finger. One on each hand. Peter's smart enough to figure that out. And since Shigaraki can't activate his quirk, he might as well be a regular guy.
And I disagree slightly about All for One. He has the power, since he has traded blows with the Hulk... but the warping would be an insta win.
Other than that, great analysis.
Thanks for watching! 😊
The problem with this is that Shigaraki doesn't need all 5 fingers, he can use any of them. Now, if this is Pre-MVA? Spidey can win quite easily but post MVA? He loses.
Also... Peter isnt above killing people. He will if he needs to, and a threat like Shigaraki would be it. He isnt Batman with a strict code, he just doesnt want, he would rather they reform but they never do.
That only works with really early shigi , he's been able to use decay regardless of the 5 finger thing for a long time now.
I bet Spider-man would tie Shigaraki's hands with his webs like he did that time he fought with Wolverine. he tied his hands pointing against his head so if he released his claws he would stab himself. And I think he would create something very specific to fight All for One, just like that time he made a multiverse webshooter.
11:38
Ngl? Id argue beatong morlun, firelord, survuving a fall from space to earth, running the fade with the pheonix twins, juggernaut, and surviving hercules, etc
Means hed be far above what all might can do even at his best
I mean it depends on what version you use. Some of his versions legit get dogwalked by season 1 Todoroki. Some of his versions are basically gods. Powerscaling of characters in Marvel or DC is extremely inconsistent unless you use specific comics or timelines with consistent feats
@thegreatestoctopus9739
Ah, an issue with ur logic ?
I only mentioned mainline 616 Peter parker
I've noticed many of those not well informed on comics run to the "it's a different version" argument when 9 times out 10 it's really not.
Sure theres a multiverse, but most that understand spidey know what to pull from.
Would u like me to explain how spider verse comics connects to mainline comics?
@@chriss.249 oh I'm not saying that the specific feats you used were all from different comics, I'm just saying that different Spider-Man's have wildly different power levels. For example MCU Spiderman would not be stronger than All Might
@@thegreatestoctopus9739
If I may?
Why wouldnt u go with the source material?
Mcu spidey is an adaptation of 616 spidey (also 1610 which is also an adaptation of 616 but for more modern audiences).
@@chriss.249 MCU may be an adaptation of 616 Spider-Man but his feats put him seriously beneath All Might or Deku so he just wouldn't be No1, he wouldn't even be No2
So heres the thing you actually do misinterpret. While not htting with enough force to change the weather, Spiderman IS stronger physically than All Might. His Strength is perportionate to that of a Spider. His best feat of Strength is holding up the Daily Bugle building calced to be 100,000 tons. Yes Press strength is different from punching strength, but because of Newton's laws, him lifting that building meant he also was exerting 100,000 tons of force onto the ground. His punches without holding back would shatter most bones in that person's face. Plus if He's seen Decay in action, Spider Sense is 100% gonna activate the moment Shigaraki even tries to touch him, oh and lets not forget he has multiple suits, including the Velocity suit which made him into a bonafied Speedster
spidey may be building level (when he stops holding back), but all might is city level.
Peter never lifted the daily bugle building. He acted as a support beam for it
@@dane1382Brodie Spiderman is above building level WHILE holding back😭
Also forgot to mention that he is also able to tap into the powers of the other a god-like spider that can make him increase his power eventually to the point where he has a stinger that can literally kill gods coming out of Spider-Man's wrist and what is worst is apparently he can shoot it out of his wrist as well.
11:45 yeah about that Spider-Man has dog walked a silver surfer level dude before so while he dont show it much Peter is planetary. Also he is strong enough to hurt the hulk(he does need to go all out though)
Both of those are outlier feats; Spiderman has stated he can’t beat Ben Grim on his best day, and loses to people planetary characters would one shot constantly
@ and? He still did it
@@dragoonsmash1395 it’s inconsistent
@ and your proof of that is that Peter doesn’t believe he can do something we have seen him do.
@@dragoonsmash1395 If he could beat Ben he would have stated otherwise. Rhino beat him, Punisher beats him constantly, Wolverine beat him, Tombstone has beaten him, Captain America has beaten him, Kingpin rivals him in strength, etc
8:50 You can practically hear the relief in that "oh thank god" from Peter XD
Probably the closest to Spider-Man's Nomu it would be Venom - has his abilities and then some, but mainly the ability to counter his spider-sense (Kraken has also done this through the use of mind-altering drugs).
Remember when Spider-Man defeated the Grand Manipulator, who combined 2 existing versions of Earth?
Some of spidey's villains are avenger level threat, like Mysterio once defeated everyone almost takes over the world. Then spider man realizes its Mysterio and tales him down in minutes.
before watching, assuming there is no jameson attacking him all the time, i could see it happening because he has the personality that can make people like him.
I see spider-man going all out vs dabi if he sees him kill someone ignoring all burns (like when he literally survived two phoenix force users by making them fight between each other and surviving a volcano exploding after they knock out each other)
did ya'll catch the 10 hidden purple billy butchers in this video? a sign of things to come
I love your editing style, it's so dynamic and full of character
That genuinely means the world to me - thanks so much! 🧡
There is one thing I want to mention, because my first though when you mentioned him being weaker than All Might, is the instance when Spiderman beat the Hulk in arm wrestling. If we take that at face value he is physically stronger than the Hulk, who I can guarantee outscales all of MHA
The "it's you" scene between peter and green goblin is one of my favorite comic panels of all time
You’d be surprised but Spider-Man actually scales very high legitimately the only characters that are problems are shigaraki because of the insta kill of decay but without decay Spider-man has survived so many insane things his durability is just crazy when you read into it and his strength isn’t a joke either even hulk acknowledges that “hey this bug guy here is actually decently strong” so scaling wise he would actually do incredible just because his durability and attacking power is bonkers hell his speed and reaction even more so as he basically has a even better version of danger sense that operates in a different universe than the main one (yall need to read up on the spider sense it’s actually crazy busted). Essentially Spider-Man has tanked cosmic blasts falling from space and a whole other mountain of feats. On average you can scale his reaction to basically instant Becuase of how busted spider sense is. This of course is taking higher end feats but the ones that mainly stay consistent are his spider sense, reaction time, speed, and his best attribute his genius level intellect that rivals Mr. Fantastic when he was Peter’s age
is no one gonna talk abt the lizard giving spider man backshots at 10:53?
peter is a god (not literally but god damn is he powerful, responsible, and literally has precognition that cant be affected by even the most powerful telepaths venom bloodline is they ONLY things able to get around it)
edit: for the killing thing, spider-man only dosent kill "people" he has killed aliens, robots, and zombies plenty before, and as for the "usj nomu" who said he needs to punch it? web it until it cant move then rip the head off
Well until you give him the black suit or you harm a family member, then he kills.
@@parkerwebb3470 he won't kill but absolutely destroy u
@@EdehEmmanuel-d7r well in some cases he does kill or he threatens to kill and he really means it.
@@parkerwebb3470 I know that
@@parkerwebb3470 he threatened to kill kingpin oh god how I miss peak peter parker until this garbage
Zeb well run and Nick lowe and joe qusada
Great video but I have to say You're really underestimating what Peter can do physically. He usually holds back which is why he does seem to get his butt kicked but when he goes all out he is one of the strongest characters in marvel on the short list of powerhouses he's beaten is Firelord, the Hulk and Doctor Doom
Spider-Man at his peak strength can lift around 100-125 tons. One of Hulk's lowest strength feat is lifting 1 billion Tons. Spidey is NOT overpowering The Hulk.
11:33 it was states In the comics that when Peter first got his powers he could lift 22 tons and here we are talking about a much more experience and stronger Peter so I would say he has a good chance at beating a nomu
Didn't even finish watching it, but fantastic video, editing and script. Really underrated channel.
I’m glad you like it! Plenty more to come. Thanks for watching and for the kind words.
Yeah... He's forgetting that Spidey is holding back. A Nomu in MHA is nothing to Spidey as he went up against Kingpin who went up against Captain America, stalemated Daredevil, and tanked hits from Victor Von Doom. Spidey is physically stronger than people think he is. He's just holding back because he doesn't want to hurt people. But if you push him enough and he stops talking? That's the sign for any rogue that they F'ed up.
Even Doc Ock, during the Superior Spiderman Arc, was surprised that Spider-Man was holding back all the time when he fought hos rogue galleries
@@CDV007Otto fucking punched scorpion’s jaw off on accident. If Peter was really trying to put a stop to someone, he could. Also his webbing is able trap the hulk for a minutes in most continuities so he could easily restrain almost every nomu and villains. Also Spidey could beat shigaraki, easily let’s be real here.
Nah lol Kingpin is literally just an enhanced human. He ain't that strong. Cap is peak human but sub 1 ton, daredevil has human levrl strength. Fully irrelevant
Bruh, there's no way you're comparing Nomus to wall level fodder all the peeps you've mentioned don't prove a darn thing
Only one here that is impressive is Doom, as the other three are weaker than Kirishima physically in most versions
Physical I do want to point out Spider-Man is able to fight hulk on equal footing and win but I love the video
Was Spidey tuckered out and bruised his fist then fixed the train rails
One issue I do foresee if Spiderman were to make heroing his entire job is burnout. The only times Peter gets a break from the hero life, his anchor to peace is his job and girlfriend. If he was given the chance to become a full time hero, I can see him burning himself out on multiple occasions and being forced to take breaks. It could be an interesting plot if there was some sorta crossover or something though.
Really well made video. One thing that is also important is that peters spider-sense is represented to varying degrees in media, one case of this is him being able to sense danger toward other people, this is shown in amazing spider-man issue 8 (the one where norman osborn becomes good) although it is shown as extremely overwhelming, another example is from the short-lived 2003 MTV series where peter is depicted as being able to sense danger happening to others from far away. I found it funny that if you allowed him this power it would make him an exceptionally good crimefighter as he'd always be the first one to respond to a crime in his vicinity meaning that he would basically hog up alot of the hero work this applies double or even triple to Daredevil (Who I'd love for you to do a video on) who can perceive info from miles away, hearing if a crime could occur using his unique sense. I hope to see more videos in the future 👍
13:37 Stampy?
It literally sounds the same 😭
These new UA-camrs are going crazy with they first videos, it makes someone rethink about becoming a UA-camr lol, amazing vid though 🔥
I don't think AFO could activate Spider-Man's powers because it isn't a quirk but he's definitely most likely fatally injuring him at the least.
I still think he's beating Shigaraki, even with his quirk awakening, since he is very fast and able to avoid him by using webs. Just web him and keep him in the air, Insomniac style.
Bro, great video. I hope your channel succeed.
Oh, also may i suggest this be a series? Because this idea, is very interesting and overall just creative, sure it's more explored in fan fiction but even then it's limited.
Some possible ideas, are people from OPM, HxH and even One Piece
Super underated channel.
I appreciate it! Thanks!
Damn, I can’t believe this is your first video it’s so well researched
29th sub, I can tell you will grow. Great commentary, editing, thumbnail, etc.! I wish this channel the best.
By the way, I'm really enjoying how this video focuses specifically on 616 Spider-Man from the main comics. It's nice to see more in-depth attention on the original version of the character.
Thanks for watching and thank you for the kind words! It was really cool looking over 616 again and seeing what applies to another one of my favourite universes!
I mean Spider-man would probably be annoyed by the amount of fan attention he's getting, since everybody there worships heroes. He just wants to eat his chili dog in peace
I want to remind you that Spiderman can make suit like the allmight have against all for one that can give him the edge after all the most dangerous aspects of Spider-Man is his brain unlike many heroes peter is both extremely smart and strong he won't just rellay on his power like most pro hero he will plan ahead use his allies and all advantages to win after nearly 99% of people in MHA universe have 0 chances in taking shigerake or all for one head on .
Besides what stop all might from giving one for all for Spiderman i mean he is the best successor he can have and have much potential the duke .
Damn, if these are the videos you're gonna be making I'd be on board. I've always wondered how heroes from different comics and movies would do in this universe.
Nah bro, Spider Man always holds back his punches, Spider Man is stupid strong
Just imagine how much good parker Industries would do in mha universe.
18:18 so this is under the presumption that spiderman's abilities are a quirk in this scenario??
Really good editing, you got potential brother keep it up!
I will do! Thank you very much!
Question about all for one: his abilities lean more towards quirks but Spiderman doesn't have a quirk, he has something alined with mutation than a (technical) disease like quirks
It really depends on your interpretation, AFO can mess with quirks which are more like x-gene mutations so if you don't think Spider-Man's bite is close enough to something like that All For One's powers against quirk users (unless we get some information saying other wise) wouldn't work on Spider-Man. Even though he isn't a mutant it did genetically alter him so I'd argue it's close enough to have some kind of effect on Spider-Man, but at the end of the day it's all fiction and just a fun discussion between fans. Thanks for watching! 😊
@TheGremlinks Fair
I have read quite a few Soiderman crossover stories with My hero Academia ( each of them quite good reads so far ) can certainly say this is a good and accurate listing, and in many of them where he’s a student in U.A. He interns under Miruko a lot, in others teams up with her as partners, so makes sense to compare the two, so nicely done and very great detail work and study.
Love the video and nicely done, consider me subscribe to ya, and as a Spider-Man fan, thank you for giving Peter justice
Spiderman doesn't have a quirk That won't work on him 18:12
I was just thinking that lol
It would if he was born in the MHA verse
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 Nah he'd be quirkless tell he got bitten by a radioactive or genetically altered Spider
@@The_Blue_Otaku I mean that just wouldn't happen in MHA, unless the spider had a quirk or something, so it would still work on him
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 I mean yeah getting powers from a radioactive spider bite sounds unrealistic even for the world of MHA, But getting powers from a genetically altered spider bite could be a thing in MHA
15 SUBS?!
The editing is so good, and I hope you get a big following
Thanks so much, I really appreciate the kind words!
top tier editing
Thank you very much! 😊
One thing to consider here is that quirks tend to be very limited in their versatility. The top heroes were all very lucky to gain or inherit quirks that had decent versatility. Spider Man on the other hand has extreme versatility with just his webs alone. Tack on his spider sense, his ability to stick to (nearly) any surface, and his incredible acrobatic skills, he definitely would have the means to top the charts.
Dude, I don't know if it's just me, but your voice looks a lot like RuggedEagle's
Anyway, amazing video and editing, hope your channel grows, man... or, since the video is a spider-man in MHA universe, "go even further, Plus Ultra"
I really appreciate it! Thank you so so much for the nice comment. :)
Sounds like* ftfy
@ChefSquares huh? What does "ftfy" means?
@@jucathedog "Fixed that for you"
@@ChefSquares oh, thank you
Honestly Pete interacting and being friends with All Might would be great to see.
He's already friends with Captain America and had a crossover with Superman. They would immediately hit it off.
Making Spider-Man rush to fights against people like Dabi or Shigaraki with no plan or preparation is not accurate to who he is. Taking away Spider-Man’s ability to create gadgets/plans for specific villains is a major detriment. Spider-Man’s greatest asset is not his strength, it’s his intellect. Even without his spider powers, he would still be a great inventor. A Spider-Man who doesn’t use his intellect is in reality just some guy with spider powers. That’s not Spider-Man. Realistically, what’s the purpose of taking away Peter’s intellect for this what-if?
If he were to actually go to the MHA universe, Peter would definitely integrate the tech in their universe into his arsenal. Just like how he constantly creates gadgets to deal with his own rogues gallery, he’d do the same for people like Dabi or Shigaraki. What’s Dabi gonna do when he’s encased in an enclosed dome with limited oxygen to burn? What‘s stain gonna do when he can’t lick any blood with a mouthful of web? Realistically, he even has ways of dealing with Shigaraki or All for One. We know technology to steal quirks exists since that’s how Dr. Kyudai stole quirks for a while, so realistically what’s stopping Peter from upgrading that tech and using it himself? Spider-Man has been able to deal with characters much stronger than himself this way before.
It’s also worth pointing out that Spider-Man has an extra advantage that the other heroes don’t have: His powers don’t come from a quirk. A quirk isn’t just another word for a superpower. They’re a very specific thing in the MHA universe, which Peter doesn’t have. He doesn’t even have his universe’s parallel to quirks: the X-gene. Spider-Man is not in the X-Men team for a reason. Stuff that affect the powers of mutants don’t usually affect Peter, so realistically quirk manipulation wouldn’t affect him either. That means that Shigaraki wouldn’t be able to steal his powers, and All For One wouldn’t be able to activate them to mess with him.
An actual story of Spider-Man going to the MHA universe would truly be sick. He’d definitely need the help of others to succeed, but he would succeed. He might need a few montages of him creating a gadget for a villain (like in Spider-Man PS4), but not even the heaviest hitters would be able to keep Peter down for long.
wow, first video, amazing video. subscribed.
Spider-Man is MY number one hero
Great video. Amazing(pun) editing!
I feel like Spider-Man outlast his opponent in most situations Or dodge the attacks with his Spider sense not to mention it allowed Spider-Man to dodge thunder And all for one would probably not be able to tamper with his abilities because it’s not a quark As For damage, he’ll just drag out the battle until he wins
bros first video and i'm already subbed hope he makes more videos like this
I’ll make more, don’t worry ! Thanks for the support!
Clearly spider-man would beat AFO because Spider-man is the good guy and AFO is the bad guy. B)
I am subscribing because how this video is different from others, I am hoping you grow your channel to become a popular channel
That really means a lot! Thank you for your kind words.
@ Your welcome bro! 😁
Just a little thing you might not have found in your research is that in the strength department, there's a comic where Spider-Man punched the grey Hulk to the atmosphere and stuck to him to follow him
Wasn't he slowly becoming cosmic spiderman along that point, then got downgraded when the powers left him? (Long time no read, so please fact check me if i'm wrong.)
@@boostsix8367he has great durability feats and resistance surviving the heat of a dying star tanking hits from phoenix hosts also blitz’s the avengers and x men on multiple occasions
He had the Uni-Power that time. That feat is invalid since he can't do it on his own.
Very excited to see what comes next ❤
I really appreciate it! Thank you. :)
Yes he absolutely would cause he is stronger than anyone in that verse and more heroic than anyone in there as well
The Amazing Spider-Man: a hero we can all relate to.
Another factor is that Spider-man's often always fighting someone or something stronger than him, so he has to be tactical about it. His quips, the environment, everything he can use he will use because he never runs from a fight unless he has to. When looking at a lot of heroes in MHA, the often stay in their own lanes and only go after villains they know they can beat or their quirk can counter easily. The rest of the time, they just use brute force for intimidation. Spider-man goes into fights knowing that he can lose them, which makes him fight harder to win. That's a factor that makes a huge difference in the fighting styles and individual perspective in a fight. If he saw the sludge villain, he wouldn't hang back and wait for someone else to step in because "his powers aren't suitable", he'd charge in and figure something out on the fly because a kid's in danger.
I like this idea 😊
Thanks! I was thinking about making more with other heroes - is there any you’d like to see?
Honestly you did your homework on this like honestly every single time I was about to question what you said you gave an answer for it is that show that you actually did your homework on Spider-Man as much as the my hero academia universe as you’re not playing favoritism and you’re not trying to make a silly oh Spider-Man could do this than a third you’re actually putting out the fact that Spider-Man is not perfect he is a great hero he could be the number one hero but the fact that these are two different universities where he could be looked at as maybe close to being number one it’s hard to see society giving him that placeholder especially when it comes down to certain factors. Like honestly I love the fact that you gave Spider-Man his props and everything that represents him as a person to where I was just having nostalgia listening to this and I hope that you continue to be great because this was chefs kiss type of video that I needed. Gotta remember with great videos come great responsibility.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I really appreciate it. 🧡
In fact, Spider-Man is stronger than All Might because the tornado he created was after the blow, that is, the tornado was the shock wave of All Might's attack, but Spider-Man already survives something very worse, as the Human Torch's attack has the same power as a sun and already survives an explosion that destroys the interior of a building, meaning that Spider-Man's blows are stronger than All Might's :)
Building level? You've got to be kidding
He has survived a heat from a dying star my dude that's no building level💀
Bruh spider man is not stronger than all might 😂
@@Adrian-Abu lmao pick up a comic instead of sprouting non sense 🤣
W Video Bro And that 10:54 really wild 💀💀💀spiderman must be take backshot
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I'm your 400th sub now. Video was great, and I hope you get far.
Back shots of DOOM 10:53
Cool video. Hope you do more of these.
That's the plan! Thanks for watching :)