"Nemesis" is a fantastic idea wasted. The irony? Next Generation did those double humanity/who are we story explorations all the time. Data's entire arc is exploring who he is. I love the scene in "Unification" where Data and Spock compare their lives? Data pointing out he's trying to FIND his humanity while Spock trying to move away from it? One of those moments when it echoes and connects to all of us. As for "Enterprise"? I was just so chuffed seeing my fave Leaper take the helm of the Enterprise. Along with"DS9" and "Voyager", "Enterprise" should have a follow up and resolution to their plots as was "Picard" to "Nemesis" PS I'm writing a lot because I have had too much coffee. Janaway would approve 🤣
Tuvix was a great episode BECAUSE there is no clear cut answer. Great sci-fi doesn't give you the answers, it makes YOU come up with the answer. The fact that 30 years later we're still arguing over it proves its still great.
I would argue that what you say is "bad" about Tuvix is what makes it great. The fact that it was so controversial, polarizing, and devisive and we are still arguing about it 25 years later makes it one of the best episodes of Star Trek of all time. Whether you agree or disagree with Janeway or whether or not it fits with "Star Trek Ideals" or whatever doesn't change that it was a very impactful and poignant episode with a big no-win scenario that they didn't back down from asking. That makes for greatness. Indeed I'd say you could argue this episode is the exact opposite of what this list is for those who disagree with Janeway: It'd be "An awesome episode with a terrible ending."
Enterprise is GROSSLY underrated! I watched it live when it originally aired and didn't fully appreciate the storytelling until recently... I've been bing watching it again for a 3rd time. Would love to see it get a "Picard" style mini series to give it it's "season 3" swan song! (Remember, the "final" episode WAS a holodeck story!)
I would advance that Tuvix is not a bad episode, It is however an awesome ending, had it been bad, ending or not we would not care about the character resolution, the episode build up the silliness at the start (yet another transporter incident) to end with Janeway's decision which as you mention, splits the treckies on either side. Also Welcome back Brie!
In Enterprise. Torture may not have been very Star Fleet, but the fate of all of mankind was at stake. I say anything goes at that point, including torture. Look what Sisko did in "In the Pale Moonlight" At least he he didn't torture anyone, right! Only had 2 people killed, and he would do it again, as I am sure Archer would given the same circumstances....
Anomaly was a great episode. It finally has a realistic reaction from a human being ( had not seen DS9 yet, did not watch it , I assumed it was TNG spin off, I hated every member of that crew, except for Data). Instead of one of Picard's " we are all ready to die for that bacteria " pomposities', god I hate that man. He could torture that criminal or probably doom earth to destruction. Reminds me of Sisko's line in rocks and shoals, " If it's a choice between us and them, there is no choice".
I know. And Tom Hardys portrayal of Shinzon was badly skates because it was apparently terrible. Personally, I think he did a good job with what he was given to work with
I enjoy the battles, but they should not have cut the character moments that can be found online today. Those 20m would’ve made the film work better. And I love Hardy but I would have rather seen Stewart play his own evil clone. And I would have had the Romulans steel Lore’s body as part of the same plan to infiltrate the Federation and that was the body the Enterprise finds.
Welcome back, Brie! You were missed. Was NOT expecting Tuvix to be on this list. Also, I'm joining the chorus of those who say they enjoyed Nemesis. I didn't know it was so hated until a few years ago! 🤷🏽♀️
@GabePuratekuta Insurrection isn't bad - it would make a great two-part episode. But TV episodes don't really make great motion pictures - just meh ones. There's nothing truly bad in it, it's just weak as a movie. Nemesis has a lot of plot holes, conveniences and chickens out of a very bold choice to kill off one of TNG's most beloved characters with the whole B4 nonsense. Data's death came out of left field as it was, almost a throwaway moment when it should have been far more impactful. B4 cheapened it so much. Picard (show) has a lot of flaws, but it at least fixed that mess and dealt with Data's death properly, and when they brought him back it felt earned - if somewhat clichéd - unlike the ending of Nemesis. Nemesis isn't the worst Trek movie, but it's down there near the bottom lol
I didn't think the Tuvix episode was a bad episode. It was actually a GREAT episode because it galvanized the audience into further thinking. It's hated for the same reason but honestly good TV compels you to think better, plus the acting was fantastic! Now in my opinion - I've always thought Janeway was correct in terms of somebody had to advocate for the one's who's lives were lost. Tuvix was a brand new person that was brought about out of the demise of two other people that did not choose for their lives to end.....beyond that - nobody asked Neelix and Tuvok after the situation if they disagreed with Janeway's decision!
She still committed murder and I think the episode is maligned because it has no lasting consequences when it really should more than what the episode is in and of itself. Latent Image strikes me as an episode where the fact that Janeway already made a choice over another person’s agency and consent “for the good of the many” should have come up. That episode understands that it’s wrong to hurt the individual for the collective, not ask them to make a sacrifice, HURT them, which as Seven points out is deeply hypocritical juxtaposed to the philosophy Janeway spouts when trying to pull her away from Borg thinking. And no one brings up Tuvix. The Doctor, who objected to the murder, and is currently the suffering party, never brings up Tuvix. It’s maddening.
@@Cdr2002 but the argument is against an accident. Tuvix WAS AN ACCIDENT. It’s not like somebody got pregnant with Tuvix and said hey let’s abort him. This is scienc fiction which has a transporter that malfunctioned. If it were just Neelix alone and the transporter malfunctioned and he merged with part of the planet and he came out looking like half a rock would you say let him live with it? Should Janeway have allowed Tuvix to murder Tuvok and Neelix, which in my mind utter thievery! Tuvix wanted to stay at the cost of Tuvok and Neelix’s individual lives, their past, their present, their future! THAT is the real murder and Janeway had to consider that in her decision. You want to call it murder - sure but if it is then it’s a mercy killing because the true crime is that Tuvok and Neelix were instead and could not argue the point of whether they wanted to live or die to allow Tuvix to live and THAT IS WRONG!
@@Cdr2002 This subject always amazes me because it is being debated based upon an accident. Tuvix was an accident. The unfortunate part of his existence was the fact that it rest upon two lives that did not have a say in whether they wanted their lives to end. What about their existence? You cannot wipe out the two who have history just so that this accident can live on. That is unfair. This actually paints Tuvix as he murderer because he was fine with extinguishing Tuvok and Neelix for himself. Again, it’s unfair. What if this was Chakotay and Janeway, Picard and Riker or Spock and Kirk? Main characters? I’ll bet the thought would be different. As Captain, Janeway had to speak for her crew that did not have the opportunity to speak for themselves and that's what she did. There honestly was no other choice.
The Enterprise episode Cogenitor would have made an honorable mention here. It was terrible and seemed like cheap filler but that scene with Archer and Trip at the end with the lecture on responsibility and consequence is definitely one to remember.
@@virginiaconnor8350 You don't think nonbinary people would love an ending where the captain basically tells Tripp to accept other people's different genders and quit trying to interfere?
I repeatedly point to the fact that we now have TWO episodes with Transporter Clones. It was perfectly possible to COPY Tuvix and then separate the original Tuvok and Neelix from the copy. The story beats alone as Tuvix gets to grapple with both of his gene parents and their memories would have made great episodes. Tuvix has the same feelings for Kes as Neelix, how does that shape out with both of them present? Tuvok and Tuvix both coexisting on the ship with the same skillset and responsibilities? HI Brie! Welcome back!
@@Cdr2002 lorewise, maybe. From the perspective of a TV-Show? Impractical at best, probally impossible to pull of. The new character has to be fleshed out and acted out in order to work. Far too much effort. If this had happened, Tuvix would have to leave the crew only a few episodes later one way or the other.
If we had a "Captain, l believe we can defeat the transporter's safety interlocks for long enough to duplicate Tuvix and then separate one of _them,_ in turn" scene, very late in the episode, then Tuvix leaving Voyager afterwards because the Captain _had been_ prepared to kill him [and indeed, did still kill one of him] would have worked without causing knock-on problems for the production. Would it have been as powerful as the uncomfortable ending we got? I'm not sure.
The transporter can do anything, except when it can't. I mean, the whole crew could've been in transporter stasis like Scotty and arrived 70 years later in the Alpha Quadrant. It can de-age people like it did in that TNG aging virus episode and Rascals. Then every other episode is like "I can't get a transporter lock on them."
There are multiple episodes in the early seasons of Voyager where they are running low on power but the holodecks are still working because their power systems are supposedly incompatible with the rest of the ship. Suddenly in this episode the power systems of the holodecks are required to save the ship. Also, why can't they just save the program and shut down the holodeck, like they have done multiple times before on Star Trek?
I long for the day when we STOP GRIPING ABOUT TUVIX!!! It comes down to watch Mr. Spock said, "The needs of the many (OR 2: TUVOK & NEELIX) outweigh the needs of the few...or the one (TUVIX)." People are really in favor of 2 people with established lives dying, so a transporter accident who has only been around for a cup of coffee can live???
This argument works if the ONE is the one giving up him/herself for the many. Nobody else has the right to impose on the ONE the needs of the many. When Spock used that argument, he was applying it to himself as the ONE whose needs were outweighed by the needs of the MANY. Spock has to make that choice. Nobody can make it for him. In Tuvix's case, the choice was made FOR him. Tuvix should have been the one to make that choice for himself.
The "many" also include all the people with whom Tuvok and Neelix have, and have had, relationships. Tuvix was an appealing person, but had not yet had an ineradicable effect on those around him. At that point his existence was more "in potentia" than otherwise.
Mulgrew's choice to tweet that it as _HER_ decision (as the actress) to kill Tuvix is hilarious. Janeway be damned! Kate Mulgrew is responsible! lol boss tweet.
I agree with 3 on your list. However, a few on your list I enjoyed quite a bit and one is a personal favorite. "Tuvix" is a personal favorite. I enjoy the episodes with a difficult moral dilemma. I'll admit I have difficulty actively disliking ST even when it's bad.
Yes, I do miss her brand. (Complain, hate, and whine about episodes) She always make me aware of the worst of Star Trek. Find me one video that she is not pointing out the worst of Trek.
@@christovog…was just about to say Profit and Lace. There was also the one where Worf was even beyond Klingon levels of misogyny to Dax…who somehow just took it?
More pointing out the worst and letting us know what episodes she hates. You cannot point out every flaw and end with "it had a great ending" and tricking me into thinking that you are not complaining again.
I thought Lower Decks ultimately had a pretty nuanced take on the matter. Janeway had to make a hard call because she didn't have the resources of Star Fleet available.
@@HermanVonPetri "Alternative Factor" I find kind of meh, though if you are watching on Pluto TV, it makes the unique choice of cropping the frame to make it look widescreen. The one I can't make it through is the space hippies episode, "The Way to Eden." Way too much cringe. Whatever else you may say about "Spock's Brain," I think it's pretty watchable, in part due to the ridiculousness of the premise. "Call Chekov and tell him to send my stomach down." Great line.
I think it would have been better if it had of been a visitor to the ship whose brain was stolen and voluntary stayed instead of being put back in his body
Spock's Brain is ridiculous but is fun in a MST3K kind of way. The WORST of TOS was And The Children Shall Lead. There is NOTHING in that episode to redeem it.
Wasn't the end allowing the planet to revert to cavemen times...tough break for the women. Maybe we should call Starfleet and ask...nah, KIRK KNOWS BEST.
FAIR HAVEN... Actually, the signage, and the script used, is very good - very accurate. That impressed me. That was NOT an average Irish town or village though. WAY too clean and tidy ☺️
Yeah, Tuvix provided a dilemma with no clear cut answer (besides "reset to 'stat quo' at end of every episode!"), which as someone else has already pointed out, makes for great sci-fi. It seems like Janeway could pass a Kobayashi Maru test with her hands tied behind her back!!
I do consider Tuvix a good ep. But I can see how it still debated by the fandom can be seen as possibly bad. But the fact it so engaging and fans debate who right and who wrong, think says strongly that it is a good ep. Great Video btw. You all keep up the hard work.
I actually like Tuvix. The only thing I didn't like about it is Tuvok and Nelix not having any memory of it, when Tuvix did and Kes not understanding that Tuvix was still Nelix when he told her he loved her.
Great episode!! You should have included an honorable mention section. I’m sure the Enterprise ep with Emperor Hoshie would have placed. The cgi for the creatures was awful!!!😂😂
I wouldn't call it one of my favorites, but I certainly enjoyed parts and the skill that went into it. The entire episode can be cleanly summed up as "obedience is not loyalty". It's also one of the few pieces of sci-fi weirdness that I can point to and say "not only is that perfectly possible, we have seen that happen on Earth".
Fair haven is one of my favorite Voyager episodes, seeing the crew loosen up and enjoying themselfs is heartwarming. Also what was janeway to do? A holographic loves was the best outcome.
Tuvix was Star Trek's way of saying that sometimes, there are no easy answers to a problem. No one knows how they would resolve this type of problem until they are faced with it. Yes, we regret the fact that Tuvix had to die. But we also are glad that Tuvok and Neelix are back. Janeway also didn't stick around after she was sure the Doctor's serum had successfully separated Tuvok and Neelix. There is real anguish on her face as she walks out, because she had also formed an attachment to Tuvix. But as captain, she needed to speak for the two people involved in this choice that couldn't say what they wanted.
I always liked the one of Tuvok's "suppressed" memory taking Janeway inside a mind-meld to the Excelsior during the events of Undiscovered Country, now have the distraction of being aware of Janeway while trying to launch a rescue of Bones and Kirk. The "Who the hell are you?" is classic Sulu.
Nemesis being on here feels weird simply because it’s a movie, but I get what you’re saying Tuvix I feel could have ended with them finding a way to keep Tuvix but also get back Tuvok and Neelix… but then they’d have had to pay for another actor or kill him off another way next week or forget him somehow being in the ship
This was informative and kind of fun. Debates are always one of my favorite things to partake in. I agree with all of your picks. Can't think of any episodes to include other than possibly the entire second season of Deep Space Nine. I do think that Tuvix wasn't quite as terrible as the others. But I do think the ending was predictable as I knew that both actors contracts were not canceled. Therefore, the separation was kind of inevitable. Especially given the subplot of the two characters banter being a consistent series character arc. It was kind of unusual that Star Trek let that be kown. It was pretty good at keeping information that would impact the future episodes or movies are released.
Simple ethics 101: Tuvix exists now. Tuvok and Neelix not. Killing life to restore the "dead" is never ethical as killing even one being is wrong if not to defend another currently living being(s). Especially since Tuvix did not ask to be created at all. So he was basically innocent. Oh... and by the way: The Federation usually preserves new life. So it wasnt Federation way either. Why not keep both creatures by mimiking the Transporter Double Riker incident. ;D
I always thought Tuvix was a great episode, a tough one to comprehend though. I stand by the decision. If two of my kids were merged into one, I'd want nothing more than to have the two back, no matter how much the individual convinced me they were "both still there" I'd have lost two that I had known for X years, for one I didn't recognise, really know, and who claimed to be them
That's a good way to look at it. I think the biggest rub for people is the captain "murdering" someone. In this context you fully admit that you'd murder this new person to get your kids back. (As would I). But I think folks struggle with the idea that the vaunted Starfleet Captain would ever do this and that's the problem. I think Janeway the character would fully admit she did murder that person in favor of getting the two back. I mean her face at the end says it all, she was crushed and part of her died that day, but she did what she felt needed to be done regardless knowing full well a lot of people will look at her differently (both in and out of universe).
I still think tuvix could have been resolved with transporter magic. There are so many episodes that slpit people and reiterate them, make duplicates, or restore health. There was probably a way to have yohr cake and eat it too. They should have tried to split them and have a transporter malfunction and the only way the save them was to restore them to normal
"Cogenitor" in Enterprise has a terrible ending, as Trip tries to save a woman born as a surrogate slave by asking Archer for her Asylum. Archer refuses not wanting to interfere in planetary politics and its roles or non interference. The woman wanting asylum decides to take her own life, than go back as a slave, (after tasting freedom and learning with Trip). Archer then chews out Trip after she dies by her own hand. Only time in the series that Archer was totally wrong in his reasoning. Or perhaps it was actually an okay ending: to find out that the captain is not infallible and can make big mistakes at times. Profound episode which makes you think.
@@antney7745 No he didn't. They had CENTURIES to put together a solution - and Earth and Vulcan had just as long to come to their own decisions on how to help an already contacted planet. ALL that Archer did was say "I'm not sure of the right call here, so I'm giving them some supplies and information and kicking it upstairs." Which frankly is something he should have done more often. Which isn't to say Phlox's position isn't bonkers, it absolutely is, but time doesn't stop when the episode ends.
Janeway honestly made the right choice with Tuvix since they were trapped in the Delta Quadrant... but I still think adding a "Thomas Riker/William Boimler" interference field between 2 transporters would be the simplest way to solve the Tuvix dilemma. One transporter set to seperate them the way Janeway did, the other set to normal, then use an artificial distortion field that has been known to create transporter clones, boom you now have a Tuvix and the 2 seperate people back.
There are much, MUCH worse episodes of TOS than Spock's Brain, which was just good campy sci-fi fun (The Omega Glory, Turnabout Intruder and especially The Paradise Syndrome are all prime examples). Oh, and Janeway murdered Tuvix, end of story ;)
Perhaps, the Wounded is not a bad episode, but the ending where Picard reveals he knew all along that the Cardassians were indeed plotting as O'brian's former CO talked about. Yes, I love it. The other one is such a bow-wow, I don't even remember the name. It is in season 3 of Voyager which deals with a Vulcan trying to mate with Belana and some shy species in the background. Forgive me for not providing the name, but take note. This is midway through season 3, where the path of Voyager became clear when they encounter a Borgafied skull. That still brings chills up my spine.
Same but they do have a lot of filler episodes. But when you’re on for 7 seasons at 20 something episodes a season, they all aren’t going to be winners
The outcome of the episode TUViX really only had one conclusion. Nelix and Tuvok had to be separated due to each actor had a contract for the remainder of the season. If they allowed TUVIX tor remain as joined then Nelix would have lost his job as Nelix because the joined charactor was played by Tuvok,.
Other candidates: “The Changeling” (TOS) - I can’t stand Nomad, so that ending is so satisfying. “Suddenly Human” (TNG) - They should have just listened to Worf! Brilliant. “Children of Time” (DS9) - The other Odo killed 8,000 boring people to save Kira. Wow. “Innocence” (VOY) - Tuvok tells stories until kids die of old age. Literally. I didn’t see that coming. “Shockwave” (ENT) - A confusing and convoluted plot has a shock twist ending. “Under the Cloak of War” (SNW) - Our characters can’t move on from the war, which is awful to watch. But that ambiguously filmed ending is a masterstroke.
Honestly if an episode is able to earn a follow up in a future series it's proven itself, and Twovix pretty much puts the exclamation point on the quote "Janeway doesn't mess around!"
And "Nemesis" wasn't bad. It certainly wasn't the best Star Trek movie, but it wasn't the worst either. It was probably the middle of the pack. The battle with the Romulans in the nebula at the end was awesome, and, I'm sorry, but Data had to die. Brent Spiner had visibly aged out of the role. It was bringing him back in "Picard" that was weird, not killing him in "Nemesis."
Why does everyone say the 10-C had great special effects? It was a blanket of red and orange with very little definition to actually see the individual aliens or their finer details.
With Tuvix- one of the redeaming points is When Tuvox is talking to Neelix re the Date joke... Tuvox also added the 4 Sundae's addition. Showing that parts of each still remain in each of them.
I have always said they could have made a transporter clone of two Vicks and then separated the two from one of the two clones and then had a new officer
The problem with the Tuvix episode is that there was another option: they could've made a transporter duplicate of Tuvix, split one of them back into Tovok and Neelix, and thus had their cake and eat it too.
Re: Tuvix, while I think Janeway made the right choice (because the incident that brought about Tuvix was rightly identified as an accident (which would have meant the loss of the lives of two of the crew if left uncorrected)), it certainly was her Kobyashi Maru! No matter what she decides, she loses. 😕
Because of Voyager's tendency to wrap things up by the end of an episode, the Tuvix episode didn't have that big of an emotional impact on me. Imagine if Tuvix had been around for a a handful of episodes for us to get to know and like this character.
I love Peanuthamper! I named one of my non combat pets in World of Warcraft Peanuthamper, and possibly a horse in Red Dead Online but not completely sure on that one.
"Thy own self": next generation. Data loses his memory. Episode is linked to "wrath of khan": movie. Situation troika is trying to solve is the situation where spock dies.
I have to admit, and I know it may not be popular, I really didn’t enjoy the Xindi arc at all. What burned my bacon about it was the whole “We have to get there right now!” Then messing around with multiple side storylines. What the hell?
So I'm just gonna chime in on the "Tuvix" debate. Janeway absolutely did murder Tuvix. When the transporter accident happened, Tuvok and Neelix died. A new life was born. So to force that life to perish against his wishes just because you found a way to resurrect your old friends, is most definitely murder. The only part that's up for debate is whether or not it was the right choice...
I’ve always said that all of Brie’s episodes are essentially “things I hate, which I think are terrible, and everyone else should think they’re terrible too.” They feel like diatribes. This video was presented as a departure from her usual whining and complaining. It's incredible how she believes that adding a single positive note at the end will convince us she’s not complaining about her most disliked episodes. She's just as guilty as those fanboys who criticize every new Star Trek installment and because they complain so loudly and so often they manipulate Google searches to reflect their negativity.
I continue to wonder if the writers made the intentional decision to make Tuvix creepy and fairly unlikable to help turn the audience against him and soften the blow of Janeway's actions. I have to imagine the debate would be even more fierce if Tuvix wasn't... well... Tuvix. Also, Hashtag Janeway Is A Murder, haha
How about an awesome series with an absolutely terrible final episode- Enterprise. In my humble opinion, every holodeck episode was a cop-out. It was bad enough on TNG, but to finish off what was one of the best series in the franchise with a holodeck episode was criminal.
Tuvix: I rather liked this episode. I mean, it's certainly not Emmy material, but it's enjoyable. I still stand by my opinion that they ignored the most obvious solution... Just make a transporter clone (a la Riker - they certainly know how to reproduce that) and split one, letting the other go on his merry way
If you think the torture scene isn't star trek I say your right. But these characters and humans are still new at this. They not at the level of Kirk or picard . They facing the end of the world and they are desperate. They are closer to how we would behave . Its totally justified and shows his desperation
One awesome episode with a terrible post-episode ending, TNG-"The Emissary." Worf, the greatest poker player of all time, never won a single game of poker after, "The Emissary."
The excuse Khan used was since he lost, the crew member that turned to his side AKA his wife, died to the slug thing larva. That and the nearest planet to the one they were left on exploded, knocking that planet to a different orbit, causing the ecosystem to be destroyed. Like any bully, Khan blamed Kirk for his own screw up.
Anomaly is not a bad episode. By that point, like Captain Sisko before him, Archer is a war captain. And like Sisko, Archer has to make some tough choices between morality and winning the war. This isn't quite as in as In The Pale Moonlight, but it's close.
In the case of Kim's relationship, it makes a ton of sense that the captain needed to be consulted. Fairly early on they realize they might end up as a generational ship...without the native facilities to support that, and consummately almost certainly established some sort of approval possess to make sure they had lead time for the...potential next generation, never mind the issues with exoship relationships, which could potentially make political waves or cost the ship an important member when they stayed behind, or surprise new crew when it turned out the relationship was gonna be a bit more than a fling...and so on
So. In my opinion. I'm 100% on board with what archer did in anomaly. He was being HUMAN. Not a Starfleet officer but human. It's rare we got to see Starfleet officers being human. I love star trek dearly. But sometimes the captains are too goody goody. Archer was doing what he had to do to get information that he needed to save earth. Once humanity gets to the stars in real life I hope we are better. I hope it's in the spirit of exploration. But we can't lose our human edge. We're pretty brutal sometimes. But that just might keep out species alive in the future. Again. Before anyone yells. In real life I really hate war and violence (the f-22 is awesome though.) and I hope we spread to the stars with the intention to explore and understand other species. But damnit we're human.
When youtube showed a comment below the video about Nemesis, I just assumed it was the Voyager episode of that name. Its ending forces a rethink of everything that was seen up to that point. But the bulk of it is too one-note and uses too few of the cast. On the other hand, it has a role by someone who was on Road to Avonlea. I'll admit that this upside is probably more personal to me...
Tuvix was Janeways's real life Koybayashi Maru scenario. also, as tuvix was part of vulcan (i.e. tuvix) even he should have remembered that the needs of the many (tuvok and neelix) outway the needs of the few or the one, him as a single individual. imho, janeway did the right thing. plus, there's no way of telling if there wouldn't be future complications from vulcan dna being combined with talaxian dna
Why does Tuvix supposedly concern a tough decision? It shouldnt, but we are like Tuvix: self-absorbed and weighing the needs of the one pathetically heavy.
never understood the hate for Spock's Brain. Is it well-written and thought-provoking? no, but it's fun and campy and that's sometimes what I wanna watch. The perfect sick-day episode if you ask me. Second only to A Piece of the Action is fun/stupid plotlines tbh.
Nemesis. . . . Hoisted by it's clone Picard.
How did your writers miss this golden opportunity ?? 9:19
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"Nemesis" is a fantastic idea wasted.
The irony? Next Generation did those double humanity/who are we story explorations all the time.
Data's entire arc is exploring who he is. I love the scene in "Unification" where Data and Spock compare their lives? Data pointing out he's trying to FIND his humanity while Spock trying to move away from it?
One of those moments when it echoes and connects to all of us.
As for "Enterprise"? I was just so chuffed seeing my fave Leaper take the helm of the Enterprise.
Along with"DS9" and "Voyager", "Enterprise" should have a follow up and resolution to their plots as was "Picard" to "Nemesis"
PS I'm writing a lot because I have had too much coffee. Janaway would approve 🤣
@@davidaston5773 Of course she would approve! And if you need more coffee... There's coffee in that nebula!
@@Donnagata1409Best opening to a not so great episode.
Cofffee explains why the Klingons are so bad tempered.... coffee crash 🤣
I love that nemesis and venom have a commonality.
Tuvix was a great episode BECAUSE there is no clear cut answer. Great sci-fi doesn't give you the answers, it makes YOU come up with the answer. The fact that 30 years later we're still arguing over it proves its still great.
They should have had Tuvok be around for a multi-arc story so viewers could form an attachment to him more.
@@travisjames3517 Year of hell should have run for a full season but only Babylon 5 was that forward thinking in the 90's.
Tuvix was crap because Voyager was crap -- and Janeway was far and away the WORST captain ever
@@firstname4337 You have repeated this same comment twice... And it was stupid the first time around.
@@firstname4337 Troll much?
“Delete Wife!” was probably the best non StarTrek typical one-liner ever said.
Code of Honour had an awesome ending. I've never been happier to see the closing credits on an episode.
It was an episode that really cheered people up when it was over.
It’s a minor miracle TNG survived its first season.
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I would argue that what you say is "bad" about Tuvix is what makes it great. The fact that it was so controversial, polarizing, and devisive and we are still arguing about it 25 years later makes it one of the best episodes of Star Trek of all time. Whether you agree or disagree with Janeway or whether or not it fits with "Star Trek Ideals" or whatever doesn't change that it was a very impactful and poignant episode with a big no-win scenario that they didn't back down from asking. That makes for greatness.
Indeed I'd say you could argue this episode is the exact opposite of what this list is for those who disagree with Janeway: It'd be "An awesome episode with a terrible ending."
Enterprise is GROSSLY underrated!
I watched it live when it originally aired and didn't fully appreciate the storytelling until recently... I've been bing watching it again for a 3rd time.
Would love to see it get a "Picard" style mini series to give it it's "season 3" swan song!
(Remember, the "final" episode WAS a holodeck story!)
I would advance that Tuvix is not a bad episode, It is however an awesome ending, had it been bad, ending or not we would not care about the character resolution, the episode build up the silliness at the start (yet another transporter incident) to end with Janeway's decision which as you mention, splits the treckies on either side. Also Welcome back Brie!
Tuvix was a bad episode.
Tuvix was crap because Voyager was crap -- and Janeway was far and away the WORST captain ever
@@willstikken5619💯💯 Exceedingly
Tubix was a painful show to watch because you felt for tubi . I did not envy Janeway in having to make that decision.
In Enterprise. Torture may not have been very Star Fleet, but the fate of all of mankind was at stake. I say anything goes at that point, including torture. Look what Sisko did in "In the Pale Moonlight" At least he he didn't torture anyone, right! Only had 2 people killed, and he would do it again, as I am sure Archer would given the same circumstances....
Anomaly was a great episode. It finally has a realistic reaction from a human being ( had not seen DS9 yet, did not watch it , I assumed it was TNG spin off, I hated every member of that crew, except for Data). Instead of one of Picard's " we are all ready to die for that bacteria " pomposities', god I hate that man. He could torture that criminal or probably doom earth to destruction. Reminds me of Sisko's line in rocks and shoals, " If it's a choice between us and them, there is no choice".
That scene is one of the reasons why Archer is my favorite captain
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I immensely enjoyed watched Nemesis
Still a million times better than Insurrection...
So did I it gets undeserved bad reviews
It is
I know. And Tom Hardys portrayal of Shinzon was badly skates because it was apparently terrible. Personally, I think he did a good job with what he was given to work with
I enjoy the battles, but they should not have cut the character moments that can be found online today. Those 20m would’ve made the film work better. And I love Hardy but I would have rather seen Stewart play his own evil clone. And I would have had the Romulans steel Lore’s body as part of the same plan to infiltrate the Federation and that was the body the Enterprise finds.
Welcome back, Brie! You were missed. Was NOT expecting Tuvix to be on this list. Also, I'm joining the chorus of those who say they enjoyed Nemesis. I didn't know it was so hated until a few years ago! 🤷🏽♀️
Same. I had always been under the impression that Insurrection was the worst Star Trek movie.
@GabePuratekuta Insurrection isn't bad - it would make a great two-part episode. But TV episodes don't really make great motion pictures - just meh ones. There's nothing truly bad in it, it's just weak as a movie.
Nemesis has a lot of plot holes, conveniences and chickens out of a very bold choice to kill off one of TNG's most beloved characters with the whole B4 nonsense. Data's death came out of left field as it was, almost a throwaway moment when it should have been far more impactful. B4 cheapened it so much.
Picard (show) has a lot of flaws, but it at least fixed that mess and dealt with Data's death properly, and when they brought him back it felt earned - if somewhat clichéd - unlike the ending of Nemesis. Nemesis isn't the worst Trek movie, but it's down there near the bottom lol
@@phoenixheart79 I didn't say it was bad. Just that it's the general consensus that says it is.
Tuvix was a perfect episode. Moral dilemma is the heart of a great Star Trek episode.
I didn't think the Tuvix episode was a bad episode. It was actually a GREAT episode because it galvanized the audience into further thinking. It's hated for the same reason but honestly good TV compels you to think better, plus the acting was fantastic! Now in my opinion - I've always thought Janeway was correct in terms of somebody had to advocate for the one's who's lives were lost. Tuvix was a brand new person that was brought about out of the demise of two other people that did not choose for their lives to end.....beyond that - nobody asked Neelix and Tuvok after the situation if they disagreed with Janeway's decision!
I loved that episode. It was dramatic and deep and had one heck of a moral delimma. Loved it! (I'd have named him 'Tuvix Neelok'.)
She still committed murder and I think the episode is maligned because it has no lasting consequences when it really should more than what the episode is in and of itself. Latent Image strikes me as an episode where the fact that Janeway already made a choice over another person’s agency and consent “for the good of the many” should have come up. That episode understands that it’s wrong to hurt the individual for the collective, not ask them to make a sacrifice, HURT them, which as Seven points out is deeply hypocritical juxtaposed to the philosophy Janeway spouts when trying to pull her away from Borg thinking. And no one brings up Tuvix. The Doctor, who objected to the murder, and is currently the suffering party, never brings up Tuvix. It’s maddening.
@@TrueAmericanPatriot-n2f lol
@@Cdr2002 but the argument is against an accident. Tuvix WAS AN ACCIDENT. It’s not like somebody got pregnant with Tuvix and said hey let’s abort him. This is scienc fiction which has a transporter that malfunctioned. If it were just Neelix alone and the transporter malfunctioned and he merged with part of the planet and he came out looking like half a rock would you say let him live with it? Should Janeway have allowed Tuvix to murder Tuvok and Neelix, which in my mind utter thievery! Tuvix wanted to stay at the cost of Tuvok and Neelix’s individual lives, their past, their present, their future! THAT is the real murder and Janeway had to consider that in her decision. You want to call it murder - sure but if it is then it’s a mercy killing because the true crime is that Tuvok and Neelix were instead and could not argue the point of whether they wanted to live or die to allow Tuvix to live and THAT IS WRONG!
@@Cdr2002 This subject always amazes me because it is being debated based upon an accident. Tuvix was an accident. The unfortunate part of his existence was the fact that it rest upon two lives that did not have a say in whether they wanted their lives to end. What about their existence? You cannot wipe out the two who have history just so that this accident can live on. That is unfair. This actually paints Tuvix as he murderer because he was fine with extinguishing Tuvok and Neelix for himself. Again, it’s unfair. What if this was Chakotay and Janeway, Picard and Riker or Spock and Kirk? Main characters? I’ll bet the thought would be different. As Captain, Janeway had to speak for her crew that did not have the opportunity to speak for themselves and that's what she did. There honestly was no other choice.
Spock's Brain is one stylistic choice away from being proto cyberpunk
I would love to hear more about this take
The Enterprise episode Cogenitor would have made an honorable mention here. It was terrible and seemed like cheap filler but that scene with Archer and Trip at the end with the lecture on responsibility and consequence is definitely one to remember.
Thought surely the non-binary folks would've loved this.
Archer is such a hypocritical arsehole
@@virginiaconnor8350 You don't think nonbinary people would love an ending where the captain basically tells Tripp to accept other people's different genders and quit trying to interfere?
'Omnipotent letter of the alphabet'. Good one.
I repeatedly point to the fact that we now have TWO episodes with Transporter Clones. It was perfectly possible to COPY Tuvix and then separate the original Tuvok and Neelix from the copy. The story beats alone as Tuvix gets to grapple with both of his gene parents and their memories would have made great episodes. Tuvix has the same feelings for Kes as Neelix, how does that shape out with both of them present? Tuvok and Tuvix both coexisting on the ship with the same skillset and responsibilities?
HI Brie! Welcome back!
Tuvix as a recurring character while both original characters still exist is an interesting wrinkle for future episodes, you make a great point
@@Cdr2002 lorewise, maybe. From the perspective of a TV-Show? Impractical at best, probally impossible to pull of. The new character has to be fleshed out and acted out in order to work. Far too much effort.
If this had happened, Tuvix would have to leave the crew only a few episodes later one way or the other.
@@oldoneeye7516 hence why I said recurring and not regular, I’m imagining a character with the same presence as say, the Wildmans, or Vorik
If we had a "Captain, l believe we can defeat the transporter's safety interlocks for long enough to duplicate Tuvix and then separate one of _them,_ in turn" scene, very late in the episode, then Tuvix leaving Voyager afterwards because the Captain _had been_ prepared to kill him [and indeed, did still kill one of him] would have worked without causing knock-on problems for the production.
Would it have been as powerful as the uncomfortable ending we got? I'm not sure.
The transporter can do anything, except when it can't. I mean, the whole crew could've been in transporter stasis like Scotty and arrived 70 years later in the Alpha Quadrant. It can de-age people like it did in that TNG aging virus episode and Rascals.
Then every other episode is like "I can't get a transporter lock on them."
In the Mirror Universe people still argue that Marschall Janeway should have done something against Tuvix.
There are multiple episodes in the early seasons of Voyager where they are running low on power but the holodecks are still working because their power systems are supposedly incompatible with the rest of the ship. Suddenly in this episode the power systems of the holodecks are required to save the ship. Also, why can't they just save the program and shut down the holodeck, like they have done multiple times before on Star Trek?
I long for the day when we STOP GRIPING ABOUT TUVIX!!! It comes down to watch Mr. Spock said, "The needs of the many (OR 2: TUVOK & NEELIX) outweigh the needs of the few...or the one (TUVIX)."
People are really in favor of 2 people with established lives dying, so a transporter accident who has only been around for a cup of coffee can live???
This argument works if the ONE is the one giving up him/herself for the many. Nobody else has the right to impose on the ONE the needs of the many. When Spock used that argument, he was applying it to himself as the ONE whose needs were outweighed by the needs of the MANY. Spock has to make that choice. Nobody can make it for him. In Tuvix's case, the choice was made FOR him. Tuvix should have been the one to make that choice for himself.
The "many" also include all the people with whom Tuvok and Neelix have, and have had, relationships. Tuvix was an appealing person, but had not yet had an ineradicable effect on those around him. At that point his existence was more "in potentia" than otherwise.
Mulgrew's choice to tweet that it as _HER_ decision (as the actress) to kill Tuvix is hilarious. Janeway be damned! Kate Mulgrew is responsible! lol boss tweet.
Mulgrew was right!
I agree with 3 on your list. However, a few on your list I enjoyed quite a bit and one is a personal favorite. "Tuvix" is a personal favorite. I enjoy the episodes with a difficult moral dilemma. I'll admit I have difficulty actively disliking ST even when it's bad.
Brie! I was starting to think you'd left! Great to hear your voice again 😊
I second that.
Agreed.
Yes, I do miss her brand. (Complain, hate, and whine about episodes)
She always make me aware of the worst of Star Trek. Find me one video that she is not pointing out the worst of Trek.
Are you being cheesy?
I noticed there were no DS9 episodes. Reinforcing my beliefs that there are no bad DS9 episodes.
Quark as a female was beyond needless.
@@christovog…was just about to say Profit and Lace. There was also the one where Worf was even beyond Klingon levels of misogyny to Dax…who somehow just took it?
Nice to see Brie back! We need more variety in our narrators!
More pointing out the worst and letting us know what episodes she hates. You cannot point out every flaw and end with "it had a great ending" and tricking me into thinking that you are not complaining again.
I'll make it easy. Janeway was right. Janeway also murdered Tuvix. (though Lower Decks kinda nailed it)
I thought Lower Decks ultimately had a pretty nuanced take on the matter. Janeway had to make a hard call because she didn't have the resources of Star Fleet available.
Spock's Brain is one of those 'It's so bad, it's good' episodes.
I would gladly watch "Spock's Brain" a hundred times over before choosing to watch "The Alternative Factor."
@@HermanVonPetri "Alternative Factor" I find kind of meh, though if you are watching on Pluto TV, it makes the unique choice of cropping the frame to make it look widescreen. The one I can't make it through is the space hippies episode, "The Way to Eden." Way too much cringe.
Whatever else you may say about "Spock's Brain," I think it's pretty watchable, in part due to the ridiculousness of the premise. "Call Chekov and tell him to send my stomach down." Great line.
I think it would have been better if it had of been a visitor to the ship whose brain was stolen and voluntary stayed instead of being put back in his body
It's not even the worst episode of its season.
Spock's Brain is ridiculous but is fun in a MST3K kind of way. The WORST of TOS was And The Children Shall Lead. There is NOTHING in that episode to redeem it.
That was definitely worse. But I gotta go with Turnabout Intruder over And the Children Shall Lead.
@@silvermanemilard Hate Turnabout Intruder
Especially not inspiring The Children of the Corn.
I love you guys, but No! Spock's Brain did NOT have an awesome ending!
Wasn't the end allowing the planet to revert to cavemen times...tough break for the women. Maybe we should call Starfleet and ask...nah, KIRK KNOWS BEST.
Surprised VOY Blood Fever doesn't get a mention, fairly hum drum episode but THAT revelation at the end...
(Gasps) The BORG!
Nice list. I'd like to see the reverse though good episodes with bad endings. Also do one of SPACEBORN CREATURES
A good video because it generated a great discussion and warmed my heart to see the community's views.
FAIR HAVEN...
Actually, the signage, and the script used, is very good - very accurate. That impressed me.
That was NOT an average Irish town or village though. WAY too clean and tidy ☺️
Yeah, Tuvix provided a dilemma with no clear cut answer (besides "reset to 'stat quo' at end of every episode!"), which as someone else has already pointed out, makes for great sci-fi. It seems like Janeway could pass a Kobayashi Maru test with her hands tied behind her back!!
I do consider Tuvix a good ep. But I can see how it still debated by the fandom can be seen as possibly bad. But the fact it so engaging and fans debate who right and who wrong, think says strongly that it is a good ep. Great Video btw. You all keep up the hard work.
I actually like Tuvix. The only thing I didn't like about it is Tuvok and Nelix not having any memory of it, when Tuvix did and Kes not understanding that Tuvix was still Nelix when he told her he loved her.
Agreed
If only Janeway knew that Tuvok and Neelix had plot armor, then she would have known the choice was easy! In fact, there was no choice!
had tuvix stayed we'd have to say goodbye to two key cast members. since neither Ethan nor Tim played the part of Tuvix.....
Great episode!! You should have included an honorable mention section. I’m sure the Enterprise ep with Emperor Hoshie would have placed. The cgi for the creatures was awful!!!😂😂
No DS9 which is something I can live with.
All of Picard Season 2 - Possibly redeemed with Picard and Q's last conversation.
Hatchery is one of my favorite enterprises episode
I wouldn't call it one of my favorites, but I certainly enjoyed parts and the skill that went into it. The entire episode can be cleanly summed up as "obedience is not loyalty". It's also one of the few pieces of sci-fi weirdness that I can point to and say "not only is that perfectly possible, we have seen that happen on Earth".
Fair haven is one of my favorite Voyager episodes, seeing the crew loosen up and enjoying themselfs is heartwarming. Also what was janeway to do? A holographic loves was the best outcome.
there were actually two episodes featuring Fairhaven and I'll take both of them over any of the stupid Chaotica episodes
Tuvix was Star Trek's way of saying that sometimes, there are no easy answers to a problem. No one knows how they would resolve this type of problem until they are faced with it. Yes, we regret the fact that Tuvix had to die. But we also are glad that Tuvok and Neelix are back. Janeway also didn't stick around after she was sure the Doctor's serum had successfully separated Tuvok and Neelix. There is real anguish on her face as she walks out, because she had also formed an attachment to Tuvix. But as captain, she needed to speak for the two people involved in this choice that couldn't say what they wanted.
I always liked the one of Tuvok's "suppressed" memory taking Janeway inside a mind-meld to the Excelsior during the events of Undiscovered Country, now have the distraction of being aware of Janeway while trying to launch a rescue of Bones and Kirk. The "Who the hell are you?" is classic Sulu.
Nemesis being on here feels weird simply because it’s a movie, but I get what you’re saying
Tuvix I feel could have ended with them finding a way to keep Tuvix but also get back Tuvok and Neelix… but then they’d have had to pay for another actor or kill him off another way next week or forget him somehow being in the ship
This was informative and kind of fun. Debates are always one of my favorite things to partake in. I agree with all of your picks. Can't think of any episodes to include other than possibly the entire second season of Deep Space Nine. I do think that Tuvix wasn't quite as terrible as the others. But I do think the ending was predictable as I knew that both actors contracts were not canceled. Therefore, the separation was kind of inevitable. Especially given the subplot of the two characters banter being a consistent series character arc. It was kind of unusual that Star Trek let that be kown. It was pretty good at keeping information that would impact the future episodes or movies are released.
Simple ethics 101: Tuvix exists now. Tuvok and Neelix not. Killing life to restore the "dead" is never ethical as killing even one being is wrong if not to defend another currently living being(s). Especially since Tuvix did not ask to be created at all. So he was basically innocent. Oh... and by the way: The Federation usually preserves new life. So it wasnt Federation way either. Why not keep both creatures by mimiking the Transporter Double Riker incident. ;D
Nobody had budget to add a new actor to the series.
Would you rather have Tuvix or Seven of Nine?
@@mccray82 You answered an in universe explanation with a meta comment? ;)
I always thought Tuvix was a great episode, a tough one to comprehend though.
I stand by the decision.
If two of my kids were merged into one, I'd want nothing more than to have the two back, no matter how much the individual convinced me they were "both still there" I'd have lost two that I had known for X years, for one I didn't recognise, really know, and who claimed to be them
That's a good way to look at it. I think the biggest rub for people is the captain "murdering" someone. In this context you fully admit that you'd murder this new person to get your kids back. (As would I). But I think folks struggle with the idea that the vaunted Starfleet Captain would ever do this and that's the problem. I think Janeway the character would fully admit she did murder that person in favor of getting the two back. I mean her face at the end says it all, she was crushed and part of her died that day, but she did what she felt needed to be done regardless knowing full well a lot of people will look at her differently (both in and out of universe).
Spock's brain was brilliant compared to the space hippies episode.
I still think tuvix could have been resolved with transporter magic. There are so many episodes that slpit people and reiterate them, make duplicates, or restore health. There was probably a way to have yohr cake and eat it too. They should have tried to split them and have a transporter malfunction and the only way the save them was to restore them to normal
@@jameshall4385 Yes, but that would take the whole point of the episode
"Cogenitor" in Enterprise has a terrible ending, as Trip tries to save a woman born as a surrogate slave by asking Archer for her Asylum. Archer refuses not wanting to interfere in planetary politics and its roles or non interference. The woman wanting asylum decides to take her own life, than go back as a slave, (after tasting freedom and learning with Trip). Archer then chews out Trip after she dies by her own hand. Only time in the series that Archer was totally wrong in his reasoning. Or perhaps it was actually an okay ending: to find out that the captain is not infallible and can make big mistakes at times. Profound episode which makes you think.
The "only" time? Really? The only?
The Valakians send their regards. Oh wait, no they don't. Archer genocided them.
@@antney7745 No he didn't. They had CENTURIES to put together a solution - and Earth and Vulcan had just as long to come to their own decisions on how to help an already contacted planet. ALL that Archer did was say "I'm not sure of the right call here, so I'm giving them some supplies and information and kicking it upstairs." Which frankly is something he should have done more often. Which isn't to say Phlox's position isn't bonkers, it absolutely is, but time doesn't stop when the episode ends.
@@westrim And Archer made the totally WRONG call.
@@antney7745 ...To let the higher ups figure it out?
@@adrianvanleeuwen They, not she. Hate Cogenitor with a vengeance. Always makes me cry.
The Xindi and temporal cold war garbage were the worst parts of Enterprise.
@TrekCulture, why are you always hating on Peanut Hamper?? She is absolutely hilarious, and I LOVE her episodes!
Janeway honestly made the right choice with Tuvix since they were trapped in the Delta Quadrant... but I still think adding a "Thomas Riker/William Boimler" interference field between 2 transporters would be the simplest way to solve the Tuvix dilemma.
One transporter set to seperate them the way Janeway did, the other set to normal, then use an artificial distortion field that has been known to create transporter clones, boom you now have a Tuvix and the 2 seperate people back.
17:40 Woo hoo! I’m so happy you’re on Bluesky now. 😍
Janeway was right.
Tuvix is the perfect way to create an episode that is the trolly problem.
There are much, MUCH worse episodes of TOS than Spock's Brain, which was just good campy sci-fi fun (The Omega Glory, Turnabout Intruder and especially The Paradise Syndrome are all prime examples).
Oh, and Janeway murdered Tuvix, end of story ;)
It’s Queen B! Woohoo 🙌🏾
Perhaps, the Wounded is not a bad episode, but the ending where Picard reveals he knew all along that the Cardassians were indeed plotting as O'brian's former CO talked about. Yes, I love it. The other one is such a bow-wow, I don't even remember the name. It is in season 3 of Voyager which deals with a Vulcan trying to mate with Belana and some shy species in the background. Forgive me for not providing the name, but take note. This is midway through season 3, where the path of Voyager became clear when they encounter a Borgafied skull. That still brings chills up my spine.
I love all the Star Trek episodes from the TOS TNG and Voyager all of them. No matter how lack luster some are they are all amazing in their own right
Same but they do have a lot of filler episodes. But when you’re on for 7 seasons at 20 something episodes a season, they all aren’t going to be winners
@@mikegary4255 true but I still like them even if they aren't my favorite.
The outcome of the episode TUViX really only had one conclusion. Nelix and Tuvok had to be separated due to each actor had a contract for the remainder of the season. If they allowed TUVIX tor remain as joined then Nelix would have lost his job as Nelix because the joined charactor was played by Tuvok,.
Tuvix was played by a guest actor.
@@Brausmith Still Tuvok and Nelix still had contracts which makes my statement true regardless of a guest actor playing Tuvix.
Other candidates:
“The Changeling” (TOS) - I can’t stand Nomad, so that ending is so satisfying.
“Suddenly Human” (TNG) - They should have just listened to Worf! Brilliant.
“Children of Time” (DS9) - The other Odo killed 8,000 boring people to save Kira. Wow.
“Innocence” (VOY) - Tuvok tells stories until kids die of old age. Literally. I didn’t see that coming.
“Shockwave” (ENT) - A confusing and convoluted plot has a shock twist ending.
“Under the Cloak of War” (SNW) - Our characters can’t move on from the war, which is awful to watch. But that ambiguously filmed ending is a masterstroke.
Peace and Long Life everyone
Poor timing since Turkey just experienced a terrorist attack that killed people.
Honestly if an episode is able to earn a follow up in a future series it's proven itself, and Twovix pretty much puts the exclamation point on the quote "Janeway doesn't mess around!"
And "Nemesis" wasn't bad. It certainly wasn't the best Star Trek movie, but it wasn't the worst either. It was probably the middle of the pack. The battle with the Romulans in the nebula at the end was awesome, and, I'm sorry, but Data had to die. Brent Spiner had visibly aged out of the role. It was bringing him back in "Picard" that was weird, not killing him in "Nemesis."
Why does everyone say the 10-C had great special effects? It was a blanket of red and orange with very little definition to actually see the individual aliens or their finer details.
And the most ridiculous moniker.
Welcome back, Brie!
With Tuvix- one of the redeaming points is When Tuvox is talking to Neelix re the Date joke... Tuvox also added the 4 Sundae's addition.
Showing that parts of each still remain in each of them.
I have always said they could have made a transporter clone of two Vicks and then separated the two from one of the two clones and then had a new officer
The problem with the Tuvix episode is that there was another option: they could've made a transporter duplicate of Tuvix, split one of them back into Tovok and Neelix, and thus had their cake and eat it too.
Re: Tuvix, while I think Janeway made the right choice (because the incident that brought about Tuvix was rightly identified as an accident (which would have meant the loss of the lives of two of the crew if left uncorrected)), it certainly was her Kobyashi Maru! No matter what she decides, she loses. 😕
It's Daniel Dae Kim! 5:27
You can't have a sci-fi and/or fantasy series without at least one appearance from DDK. It's a rule.
Because of Voyager's tendency to wrap things up by the end of an episode, the Tuvix episode didn't have that big of an emotional impact on me. Imagine if Tuvix had been around for a a handful of episodes for us to get to know and like this character.
I love Peanuthamper! I named one of my non combat pets in World of Warcraft Peanuthamper, and possibly a horse in Red Dead Online but not completely sure on that one.
"Thy own self": next generation. Data loses his memory. Episode is linked to "wrath of khan": movie. Situation troika is trying to solve is the situation where spock dies.
I loved peanut hamper! 😂
I agree Nemesis has its issues but god I love watching it though… that opening gets me every time
I have to admit, and I know it may not be popular, I really didn’t enjoy the Xindi arc at all. What burned my bacon about it was the whole “We have to get there right now!” Then messing around with multiple side storylines. What the hell?
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."
Hate me if you want, but I love Spock's Brain... and the episode.
So I'm just gonna chime in on the "Tuvix" debate. Janeway absolutely did murder Tuvix. When the transporter accident happened, Tuvok and Neelix died. A new life was born. So to force that life to perish against his wishes just because you found a way to resurrect your old friends, is most definitely murder. The only part that's up for debate is whether or not it was the right choice...
I’ve always said that all of Brie’s episodes are essentially “things I hate, which I think are terrible, and everyone else should think they’re terrible too.” They feel like diatribes.
This video was presented as a departure from her usual whining and complaining. It's incredible how she believes that adding a single positive note at the end will convince us she’s not complaining about her most disliked episodes. She's just as guilty as those fanboys who criticize every new Star Trek installment and because they complain so loudly and so often they manipulate Google searches to reflect their negativity.
I continue to wonder if the writers made the intentional decision to make Tuvix creepy and fairly unlikable to help turn the audience against him and soften the blow of Janeway's actions. I have to imagine the debate would be even more fierce if Tuvix wasn't... well... Tuvix.
Also, Hashtag Janeway Is A Murder, haha
How about an awesome series with an absolutely terrible final episode- Enterprise. In my humble opinion, every holodeck episode was a cop-out. It was bad enough on TNG, but to finish off what was one of the best series in the franchise with a holodeck episode was criminal.
Tuvix: I rather liked this episode. I mean, it's certainly not Emmy material, but it's enjoyable. I still stand by my opinion that they ignored the most obvious solution... Just make a transporter clone (a la Riker - they certainly know how to reproduce that) and split one, letting the other go on his merry way
If you think the torture scene isn't star trek I say your right. But these characters and humans are still new at this. They not at the level of Kirk or picard . They facing the end of the world and they are desperate. They are closer to how we would behave . Its totally justified and shows his desperation
I would split tuvix every day before breakfast. Grab a drink, grab a smoke, push the button to unsplit tuvix, and continue about my day.
One awesome episode with a terrible post-episode ending, TNG-"The Emissary." Worf, the greatest poker player of all time, never won a single game of poker after, "The Emissary."
About Peanut Hamper... Khan left peacefully after losing in Space Seed, but turned vengeful in the movie. She's not the first.
The excuse Khan used was since he lost, the crew member that turned to his side AKA his wife, died to the slug thing larva. That and the nearest planet to the one they were left on exploded, knocking that planet to a different orbit, causing the ecosystem to be destroyed. Like any bully, Khan blamed Kirk for his own screw up.
"They're not even YOUR eggs Jonathan!" -Steve Shives
Anomaly is not a bad episode. By that point, like Captain Sisko before him, Archer is a war captain. And like Sisko, Archer has to make some tough choices between morality and winning the war. This isn't quite as in as In The Pale Moonlight, but it's close.
In the case of Kim's relationship, it makes a ton of sense that the captain needed to be consulted.
Fairly early on they realize they might end up as a generational ship...without the native facilities to support that, and consummately almost certainly established some sort of approval possess to make sure they had lead time for the...potential next generation, never mind the issues with exoship relationships, which could potentially make political waves or cost the ship an important member when they stayed behind, or surprise new crew when it turned out the relationship was gonna be a bit more than a fling...and so on
16:02 She, Capt Janeway WAS correct in her decision and BOTH Tuvok and Neelix would agree. Remember peeps, the Capt is ALWAYS right!!!
So. In my opinion. I'm 100% on board with what archer did in anomaly. He was being HUMAN. Not a Starfleet officer but human. It's rare we got to see Starfleet officers being human. I love star trek dearly. But sometimes the captains are too goody goody. Archer was doing what he had to do to get information that he needed to save earth. Once humanity gets to the stars in real life I hope we are better. I hope it's in the spirit of exploration. But we can't lose our human edge. We're pretty brutal sometimes. But that just might keep out species alive in the future. Again. Before anyone yells. In real life I really hate war and violence (the f-22 is awesome though.) and I hope we spread to the stars with the intention to explore and understand other species. But damnit we're human.
When youtube showed a comment below the video about Nemesis, I just assumed it was the Voyager episode of that name. Its ending forces a rethink of everything that was seen up to that point. But the bulk of it is too one-note and uses too few of the cast.
On the other hand, it has a role by someone who was on Road to Avonlea. I'll admit that this upside is probably more personal to me...
Wondering why Sean isn't doing this list, sees Fair Haven on the list and now I understand.
100% agree about your comment about Fair Haven, the accents were dodgy and signage too
Tuvix was Janeways's real life Koybayashi Maru scenario. also, as tuvix was part of vulcan (i.e. tuvix) even he should have remembered that the needs of the many (tuvok and neelix) outway the needs of the few or the one, him as a single individual. imho, janeway did the right thing. plus, there's no way of telling if there wouldn't be future complications from vulcan dna being combined with talaxian dna
"The Disease" was worth watching if only for Musetta Vander.
Why does Tuvix supposedly concern a tough decision? It shouldnt, but we are like Tuvix: self-absorbed and weighing the needs of the one pathetically heavy.
never understood the hate for Spock's Brain. Is it well-written and thought-provoking? no, but it's fun and campy and that's sometimes what I wanna watch. The perfect sick-day episode if you ask me. Second only to A Piece of the Action is fun/stupid plotlines tbh.