BUSINESS CLASS FOR JUST £136! KLM Business vs Economy Flight Comparison

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  • Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
  • Click here to snag a £2,500 KLM Business Class ticket to Dubai for £136: thepointsguy.co.uk/news/busin...
    For TPG UK's latest flight comparison we flew with KLM from Amsterdam to Dubai in Business Class and Economy. Nicky snagged the throne business class seat this time around, while Liam was back in economy.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 291

  • @egpx
    @egpx Рік тому +136

    “Are airport queues a thing of the past?” That question aged well, didn’t it?

    • @sjoerdkorsmit8548
      @sjoerdkorsmit8548 Рік тому +4

      Perfect, I'm from the Netherlands and on Schiphol the queue were 4 hours and a lot of people mist their flights and a lot of flights have been cancelled. That was maybe 2 months after this video. There were big rows outside and a lot of angry people

    • @mouliksurana
      @mouliksurana Рік тому

      Visit India bro😂😂

    • @murderboytje
      @murderboytje 9 місяців тому

      @@sjoerdkorsmit8548 That queues were only on very short periods tho. I travel through Schiphol on a regular base and i never experienced it at all. It only happened during holiday seasons.

    • @murderboytje
      @murderboytje 9 місяців тому

      Well from the past is a big thing, but still usually its at most 15 mins.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому +215

    I love how professional Liam is: Enjoying yourself in the Heineken Area while trying to board a flight is an occupational hazard 😂

    • @anyonymous9145
      @anyonymous9145 2 роки тому +13

      bro how much are you gonna comment lmao

  • @chloethea25
    @chloethea25 2 роки тому +29

    I had the same challenge with KLM in economy. They don't really come with the call bell. I feel like they kinda expect you to walk to them and get what you want. Usually they leave out snacks for you to freely take and they will help you get the drinks at their area

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому +158

    My favourite thing about an airport is the Display Board that shows all the departures. So many places, so many stories.

  • @Theonethat.asked_
    @Theonethat.asked_ 2 роки тому +118

    Petition to get Nicky to fly economy for the next 3 flights.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому +93

    Shoutout to Nicky’s Co-passenger for being a sport 👏🏽

  • @user-mc6vi8yd7l
    @user-mc6vi8yd7l 2 роки тому +7

    Wake up babe The Points Guy uploaded

  • @neilburns8869
    @neilburns8869 2 роки тому +18

    I personally have found KLM such a great airline, each and every trip economy. The staff are just so friendly and helpful, what you get for your money and the customer service just adds up to really good value for me.
    Amsterdam Schiphol airport is also very user friendly and like KLM the people and staff so friendly and helpful.

    • @murderboytje
      @murderboytje 9 місяців тому

      I think they used to be. KLM customer service isnt what it used to be, they can never help you. Staff is really friendly, but doesnt really do anything. And the flights arent really different then a Ryanair or an Easyjet flight. Except that carryon luggage is free and a small drink and bite.

  • @brjnskjaard7287
    @brjnskjaard7287 2 роки тому +39

    You missed their signature cocktail, the “Flying Dutchman”
    Also they have an incredible apple juice not from a box that is organic cold pressed.
    The biggest negative was the fact you have no personal air vent control and they love turning up the heat!

    • @dreamdancer1619
      @dreamdancer1619 2 роки тому

      Unfortunately the delicious "Flying Dutchman" is a thing from the past since I think late 2019 :-(
      Their new signature cocktail is the "Bols Negroni" and actually it is quite good as well.

  • @nsesheyesusanpriebe4715
    @nsesheyesusanpriebe4715 2 роки тому +97

    I’ve actually also experienced a terrible call bell service in economy. There either must be something wrong with the connections from the buttons to reaching the flight attendants or they just don’t really bother with it.

    • @xandrios
      @xandrios 2 роки тому +4

      There is no 'connection': There is the audible ding - which we heard - and the light. Even if they missed the ding sound they should have acted on the light being on (Albeit probably at a later time).

    • @sebi4838
      @sebi4838 2 роки тому +4

      Just had transatlatic flight with Delta and after longer time no one showed up in the cabin I pushed the bell button. Surprisingly a crew member who just had startet eating jumped up and was available for me after 5 secs. I guess this would have been a new recoed here. ;)

    • @danielkim7212
      @danielkim7212 2 роки тому

      Yes, usually it is not very loud so you got to press it multiple times like a doorbell or go to the back and ask for whatever you want. Still IMO, the best European Airline I have ever flown on. Even their brother airline, Air France is worse than KLM in my experience.

  • @charlotte44444
    @charlotte44444 2 роки тому +37

    As a dutch citizen who always flies economy with KLM it was fun to see your guys’ experience. I was wondering when it was KLM’s turn for you guys to try since its the biggest airplane company haha.

    • @romahnae
      @romahnae 2 роки тому +2

      Biggest but that economy experience looked the worst.

    • @charlotte44444
      @charlotte44444 Рік тому

      @@Rensjerens Since 2004 the biggest European airline company

    • @Rensjerens
      @Rensjerens Рік тому

      @@charlotte44444 op basis van wat zijn ze de grootste? Op basis van aantal passagiers staan ze in de top 5 maar halen ze nummer 1 bij lange na niet.

    • @murderboytje
      @murderboytje 9 місяців тому

      @@Rensjerens KLM/Air France (volgens mij combineren ze de cijfers al) was de grootste qua passagiers in Europa t/m 2007. Toen haalde Lufthansa ze in en in 2010 Ryanair ook. IAG sinds 2015.

  • @irishwarrior35
    @irishwarrior35 2 роки тому +12

    We flew KLM to Africa to climb Kilimanjaro and KLM home. They are amazing I was beyond impressed with the staff starting from check in to landing…I will fly them again……also love the airport in Amsterdam.

  • @GregCurtin45
    @GregCurtin45 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks guys, wonderful review as always... and the music choices? Outstanding! Stay safe.

  • @mfa97
    @mfa97 2 роки тому +2

    Missed travelling, this videos brings back happy times. Thank you 😊

  • @footballx2325
    @footballx2325 2 роки тому +1

    I love these videos where you review airlines, I said this in your hotel video a while back and since then you uploaded a lot of these reviews, thanks!

  • @number9-sk921
    @number9-sk921 2 роки тому +1

    I know you already did one video of this type from Caledonian Sleeper train. It would be great to see more of this train reviews, for exapmle Amtrak California Zephyr(US), Amtrak Cardinal(US), Night Riviera(UK), Ocean-ViaRail Canada, NighetJet(Europe). it would be cool to see this new series and it would be great to see it in all classes because nowdays youtubers wich do this type of videos are not commenting it, is just subtittles and is weird to just see all of that without hearing a word. Looking forward to your content.

  • @emanf7553
    @emanf7553 2 роки тому

    Great review overall, was always curious about KLM. Also have to mention how I love the fact that y'all dont get overly whiny about service inconsistencies but still do acknowledge the shortcomings.

  • @timothymacintyre9271
    @timothymacintyre9271 2 роки тому +1

    Great review, thumbs up. "Nice lighting !" 3mins 42 secs, interesting take, not the first thing I tend to notice, when at an airport, to be honest. Cheers Tim from Sydney

  • @harrytd50
    @harrytd50 2 роки тому

    I flew from Manchester airport to Schipol and the security check was complete chaos. It took over 2 hours to get through. We were packed in like sardines whilst the airport announcements kept telling people to be aware of social distancing. I think you have been very lucky with your choice of airports. Great video by the way.

  • @jamescooling76
    @jamescooling76 Рік тому +4

    That didn’t age well 🤣 “Are airport queues a thing of the past?”

  • @TheHannes16
    @TheHannes16 2 роки тому

    Great video guys. Huge improvement you’ve made in the last couple of months. I wish you could do the same review on the 787 since the 777 is the seat you generally want to avoid in comparison (only applies for business class, unsure about economy).

  • @elroyvanduijvenbode5329
    @elroyvanduijvenbode5329 2 роки тому +16

    As a Dutchie having flown KLM economy for many years(pre-Covid), I can safely say after this amazing Points Guy video that the quality of service, seat and food has gone down for many years now. I'm sorry to say @KLM, I look at other airlines before looking at KLM now

  • @JettTyler17
    @JettTyler17 2 роки тому +2

    Love flying KLM! Always try to fly them once a year at the minimum. They have a really good Crown Lounge at Amsterdam Schiphol! I will hopefully try their long haul business one day. I've done only Business on a LHR-AMS flight with a Boeing 737...

  • @Bamiblokje1
    @Bamiblokje1 2 роки тому +4

    2:17 i thought long check-ins were a thing of the past as well, until my Vueling flight from Barcelona back to Düsseldorf took about 3hrs to check-in, Vueling had only opened 2 check-in booths, while there were a lot of flights scheduled. Almost missed my plane because because of that :/

  • @Bellasie1
    @Bellasie1 2 роки тому +1

    I love your videos! 2 suggestions for all videos, though: could we please have the take-offs and landings at normal speed with the engine sounds? Also, sometimes the movements of the camera are a bit too fast and it's hard to see the lounge, views or else the menu properly. Other than that, really enjoyable videos!

  • @Redpantslol
    @Redpantslol 2 роки тому +4

    I had a call button failure on a Virgin Atlantic flight in Premium. Not a single FA came through the cabin in over an hour. As lovely as the flight could have been (and others were), the complete lack of service was inexcusable.

  • @mini-land
    @mini-land 2 роки тому +1

    Another great review!

  • @neilburns8869
    @neilburns8869 2 роки тому

    I love the fact that they have some plants and greenery dotted around the KLM Crown Louge. Nice!

  • @gyimilrutherford1449
    @gyimilrutherford1449 2 роки тому

    Ha. Took me an hour to check-in and pass through security/exit immigration at CDG T2 right after New Years. And that was business class with a fast track for security. The general security line ran the length of the checkin area.

  • @paulkensington4069
    @paulkensington4069 2 роки тому +29

    That was a kind review of KL Economy. Narrow seats, sub-par food, absent service. KL competes with EK A380 on that route. No brainer which one to go for

  • @austinb3257
    @austinb3257 2 роки тому +1

    Totally the same experience I had with Liam, after service you are abandoned, however if you head to the galley there is food and drink there. On a side note had the best ever tuna sandwich at Schiphol airport, think the Cafe was called Bread.

  • @JLO72
    @JLO72 2 роки тому +1

    I also had bad service in economy on a flight to Dubai. It was along time ago, I started my journey from ABZ to DXB via AMS. I have mild lactose intolerance so for long haul flights as cream is a definite no no. The short haul it flight was amazing crew were super friendly the snack was a yoghurt biscuit, when they found out I couldn't eat it they offered a sandwich from business class, trouble was the only one left was brie. So they gave me an extra tin of juice, clearly didn't have too for short haul but still great service.
    Onto DXB flight when meals were handed out I asked were my lactose free meal was they said I was listed for it and scolded for not checking with customer service prior to flight (I had). The perser came down and I ended up with curry and rice from business class a crew salad the the biggest apple I've ever seen. So although I did in end I did get something but could have done without the scolding. Turns out the guy at check-in desk was at fault when my boarding pass was mailed in the machine he changed my ticket number which meant my special meal was transferred. The flight home was better as I did get my special meal.
    Fun fact the Dutch king used to fly short haul flights for KLM I think he retired when they stopped flying Fokkers.

  • @ghost.sharpp33
    @ghost.sharpp33 2 роки тому +17

    KLM is the first airline to lose in this challenge.🤔🙄

  • @Ananth8193
    @Ananth8193 2 роки тому

    Awesome video as usual.... Your video intro was very funny...I think you guys rocked the video 😀😀😀...KLM is one of the most interesting airline which I would like to try sometime in future

  • @user-ee4kc5oq4l
    @user-ee4kc5oq4l 2 роки тому +8

    i actually just took KLM Economy amsterdam back to asia. I must say the economy wasn't that bad, Food wise of course it can be better, but I must say the service was quite good actually. The crew was extremely attentive and friendly. my first KLM experience wasn't that bad, although of course it pales in comparison with Singapore airlines or cathay pacific. However, the ticket was much cheaper, so i am not complaining here :)

    • @shawntipton5078
      @shawntipton5078 2 роки тому

      I have never tried KLM though I am sure I will, for such low to mid range cost for economy though I would say bump up to first class from economy if they have it, if on a long haul flight, short hop, economy is the best in most cases, they fly from London I discovered which is handy for me. I would probably use Economy though on KLM.

  • @JustBen81
    @JustBen81 2 роки тому +1

    Check in lines - or more precisely wait times are very much still a thing in Berlin. Dropped a friend of. He was going on an Air France flight - it didn't look like much of a line but with only one counter open he was still waiting 1:30 h later (they them opened up more counters and a priodity security check)

  • @o.c.g.m9426
    @o.c.g.m9426 Рік тому

    Just got back from Budapest with KLM business class. The flight attendant Fem was so nice to me & smiled all the time. I liked the seat & airline window. Now getting on the plane well, that was a different story. The upgrade price was only $460 though

  • @marcambouphaure
    @marcambouphaure 2 роки тому +2

    Guys, you are so funny but the most importantly is you are all doing a very good job. Congratulations to the whole team. Love you bros ❤️

  • @hovelad8214
    @hovelad8214 2 роки тому +1

    Nicky….where did you get your sweatshirt from? Great review as always!

  • @dreamdancer1619
    @dreamdancer1619 2 роки тому +2

    So yeah, call bell challenge fail in Economy ;-) Based on experience, set the call bell back to off and "ring the bell" again. This time even KLM responds after a while ;-) Still, my favourite airline! Usually Economy meals are way better than the competition. On my Dubai flight two weeks ago the Business meal was the same and the Poke Bowl entree was outstandingly delicious indeed!

  • @StealthFB22
    @StealthFB22 Рік тому

    I love seeing Liam! 😍

  • @pellevanderwerf4231
    @pellevanderwerf4231 2 роки тому

    this is something i wanted fo soo long thanks for this amazin video

  • @heychiliya
    @heychiliya 2 роки тому +1

    I would like to see more videos with Stella but great video as always

  • @leenvanbilsen
    @leenvanbilsen Рік тому

    I love you Guys video’s!!

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому +7

    I’m so happy to see a video from this channel in so long! I missed Nicky and Liam! One of my favourite travelling duos ♥️

  • @clementgaillard1308
    @clementgaillard1308 2 роки тому

    I only take KLM once, from Bilbao (Basque Country) to AMS to Los Angeles in early Jan. The Bilbao staff was awful and can't register my surfboards and double charged me (it wasn't KLM's direct fault). However someone came to fix everything (and refund me). Because of that the plane was 20 mins late. On the plane the flight attendant told me to sit on the front and they did an emergency exit to let me catch my Los Angeles plane. I had to run from terminal A to G in 20 minutes which is like 2 miles. They escorted me during the customs and I finally catch my plane. I had 3 row for me and the food was . . . Dutch ? But overall I had a very good experience. Good job Flying Dutchman!

  • @luxdavidnyc3793
    @luxdavidnyc3793 Рік тому

    Another great video. KLM is a wonderful airline with a great business class experience.

  • @IOMTV
    @IOMTV Рік тому

    Question for business on that flight
    How easy was it to get over the person sitting in the aisle seat when in both upright and bed mode? Thanks

  • @naitcst
    @naitcst 2 роки тому +2

    Please do westjet 787 economy, premium or business class and traveling between Calgary and London

  • @vmkunnari
    @vmkunnari Рік тому +1

    "Are airport queues a thing of the past" 🤣
    Hello summer 2022.

  • @MartijnAroundTheWorld
    @MartijnAroundTheWorld 2 роки тому

    Wow I waited more than 30 minutes in business class after a ring the bell. So your bc was much better

  • @alisonlucas6206
    @alisonlucas6206 Рік тому

    Sydney Airport, the queues double as your steps for the day. London has just made restrictions as to the numbers coming in!

  • @kennethcampbell7263
    @kennethcampbell7263 2 роки тому

    Hey Liam, I expect it is a lot to do with the fact that the world is still recovering from Covid. I am sure long queues will be back once aircraft are full again. KLM by less than half a year over Avianca then Qantas. Cool, I'm learning stuff.

  • @shailaladha6530
    @shailaladha6530 2 роки тому

    Do you think you could do a review on the different classes in Air Canada? Thank you!!

  • @truep9484
    @truep9484 2 роки тому

    😄 when you did the call bell challenge. I knew that would take a long time. So used to that as I fly allot with KLM

  • @lorenzotognetti6
    @lorenzotognetti6 2 роки тому +1

    the best duo❤

  • @S3_VGaming
    @S3_VGaming 2 роки тому +1

    I love your air vids

  • @dairokkan.sg2
    @dairokkan.sg2 2 роки тому +1

    After watching the intro, I am of the belief that the "X" in "DXB" stands for London.
    Also Liam: Airport Q's are still a thing here in India especially with the small subpar facilities present here.

  • @syedrashedi8220
    @syedrashedi8220 2 роки тому

    Please keep uploading these videos

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому

    It’s so cute to see those traditional Dutch house souvenir.

  • @alexlodner7378
    @alexlodner7378 2 роки тому

    Yes security everywhere I have flown to has been very fast lately!

  • @nathap.3147
    @nathap.3147 Рік тому

    I love Liam!!!

  • @josharonson3659
    @josharonson3659 2 роки тому

    Depending where you fly from , in TLV theres extra security prior check in so thsres always long lines to check in

  • @Calebs_Aviation
    @Calebs_Aviation Рік тому

    Great video guys! I love seeing the beautiful Boeing 777 my favorite jet other than the Classic Boeing 747 that KLM sadly no longer operates! 😢 I especially love the beautiful 777 in that fabulous KLM livery the colors are so beautiful! I can’t wait to fly KLM someday especially in Business Class NOT Economy sorry Liam! 😂 Although the New KLM Business Class found on their B787 Dreamliner fleet looks much better than the older seat and the new flight is soon to be installed on the entire B777 fleet! Yay 😁
    Cheers boys! 🍻

  • @leerayson4986
    @leerayson4986 2 роки тому +16

    The call bell challenge failure in economy class is not coincidental. I tried many times on KLM to/from Asia, barely got response. I am in their observer program, big minus there.

    • @paradonym
      @paradonym 2 роки тому

      So you're responsible for doing it better?

    • @AlexXimtra
      @AlexXimtra 2 роки тому

      I always double click. They might take it as a mistake but at least the sound is loud in the pantry, so they cannot miss that you've pressed it.

    • @jeffreytravels
      @jeffreytravels 2 роки тому

      Maybe it’s a culture thing. In economy with KLM its my experience that it’s more common to walk down to the galley to get anything you want.

    • @leerayson4986
      @leerayson4986 2 роки тому

      @@jeffreytravels it’s not about culture, it is a service not up to standard, otherwise it won’t be a question on their service questionnaire. And I most of time pick by myself to have a walk.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому +1

    2:25 I think it’s easier to deal with security than with arrival, I guess.

  • @ChrisHockman
    @ChrisHockman Рік тому

    “I got very distracted by the planes” same my man. Same.

  • @Wee-Rex
    @Wee-Rex 2 роки тому

    Flying KLM to Thailand in May, biz class, this was interesting to watch!

  • @angus_m
    @angus_m 2 роки тому

    DXB still has massive queues. If anything they're worse than before because same demand but with extra docs to check.

  • @antoniowood8119
    @antoniowood8119 Рік тому

    2:10, you caused the summer problems 😂

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому

    My brain had obliterated the idea of the Viking Bowl. Thanks for the reminder, Liam 😂

  • @dippy139
    @dippy139 2 роки тому

    Dublin airport can have long ques for checking and pending on the time security could take 1hr

  • @bratwuurst
    @bratwuurst Рік тому

    Thought Nicky said "Poke Ball" at 15:00 and definitely agreed with his remark of "interesting selection" 😂 but otherwise absolutely love the content so far!!

  • @HomebaseLHR
    @HomebaseLHR 2 роки тому +4

    Flown KLM many a times, short and long-haul and I loved it every time. Never had an issue with them. And yes, I flew in economy

  • @bramkalkman9231
    @bramkalkman9231 2 роки тому

    Airport cues still exist, waited for an hour flying from ace to ams last december

  • @gunvaldsandhaland7757
    @gunvaldsandhaland7757 2 роки тому

    nice video,i love flying whit klm

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому +1

    Brooklyn Nine-Nine had the Jimmy Jab Games and The Points Guy UK have the Call Bell Challenge.

  • @infinitegaming2759
    @infinitegaming2759 2 роки тому +1

    Can you guys do all classes in Cathay Pacific?

  • @aggepromaster7728
    @aggepromaster7728 2 роки тому +2

    Can you please do Business vs Economy Scandinavian airlines :)

  • @chriskatzer
    @chriskatzer 2 роки тому +1

    I knew this Business Class looked familiar, I flew it 20 years ago with Cathay....

  • @ethansaviation2672
    @ethansaviation2672 2 роки тому

    KLM ftw😎, great video👍

  • @mekkamalaza2240
    @mekkamalaza2240 2 роки тому

    Ilove it's that my dream place woow excited love it's so much I hope more more vlog

  • @zacklee22
    @zacklee22 2 роки тому +1

    Hi how are you all and I am Zack from Malaysia and nice video today and can you pls do a video with Malaysia Airlines pls

  • @ti-ande
    @ti-ande Рік тому +3

    "Are airport queues a thing of the past?" 🤣🤣😭😭

  • @Emthe30something
    @Emthe30something 2 роки тому

    Yay, 20 minute vid!

  • @bradtaylor76
    @bradtaylor76 2 роки тому

    Wow….the call bell challenge! Must have been a party up front…if you know you know!! 😅

  • @millardlee4153
    @millardlee4153 2 роки тому

    Have you guys ever reviewed Singapore Airlines? I'd like to watch them

  • @Alex-cn9sl
    @Alex-cn9sl Рік тому

    😂 nicky having the time of his life with his seat mate!

  • @adityamirani
    @adityamirani Рік тому

    I have done Dubai to Amsterdam on KLM and i can feel Liam. It isn't the best experience but still liveable.

  • @sora_to_kaze7656
    @sora_to_kaze7656 2 роки тому

    I would going on KLM so much back when I was 8 ish, haven't been on them for 8uears now

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 роки тому +1

    Only a major event can free up space to record something at the Amsterdam sign.

  • @steffil3183
    @steffil3183 2 роки тому

    If you think queue times are short better check out Orlando international during the school breaks lol I have TSA pre and status So it goes quickly for me…someone told me They had to get to the airport three hours early for a domestic flight and barely made it on time

  • @nakuiper
    @nakuiper Рік тому +1

    I am from the Netherlands and I always takeoff from Schiphol it’s a good airport like if you are from Netherlands to

  • @4viator
    @4viator Рік тому

    Last time it took me 3 and a half hours to get to the pane leading me to almost miss it.

  • @life.with.sabine
    @life.with.sabine Рік тому

    Sky priority isn’t that exclusive even the flex economy tickets offers it which is why that line is busy under normal circumstances as well.

  • @PHuber
    @PHuber 2 роки тому

    Its so cool can you go on switzerland to try the airplane how is look from first Business and perniom economy and economy

  • @ccraigdes5
    @ccraigdes5 11 місяців тому

    So if you take window seat in the 777 biz class, and you don't know the person next to you, are you trapped in your seat if they are in the lay-flat position?

  • @strictboy
    @strictboy 2 роки тому

    You guys emirates video is awesome

  • @polleypun
    @polleypun 2 роки тому +1

    Nicky, any medium to long haul business class seat with a non flat seat, in view of the competition today, is worthy of a more critical review - it just does not stack up in the class. Cheers to Liam for giving more bold and straight up review.

    • @CyBeRiun
      @CyBeRiun 2 роки тому

      The seat is flat though.

  • @neilburns8869
    @neilburns8869 2 роки тому

    KLM has always had a very good reputation for customer service.
    As seen with your fresh orange juice.
    Even if only flying between Amsterdam and Edinburgh you would still get a nice roll or sandwich and a container of chilled water. Better than nothing.