Tiago.ev Electric Car : Highway and Hill Drive Test | Mumbai to Pune
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So a 165 km journey in an electric car with 22.1 kWh battery pack.
Kamlesh from PluginIndia is confident that he may not need to charge in between. But that ghat man. It’s a range killer. Let's see how he fares!
We also talk about
- Charging Habits
- Battery Pack Issues
- Tata's Software Updates
- CenterScreen in Tiago.ev and its shortcomings
Read the article and some nice photos of the Tiago.ev
www.pluginindia.com/blogs/dri...
Sections
00:00 - Start
00:10 - Pre Drive Chat
03:58 - Drive Starts
06:10 - 90% SOC Update
07:21 - 80% SOC Update
09:06 - Highway Speeds - 70% SOC
09:57 - Charging Habits Chat
11:57 - Battery Pack Issues Chat
14:20 - Regen Level 0 Cruising
14:52 - Just before the Ghat
15:10 - Driving UpHill Tiago.ev
19:14 - Why Electric Cars are awesome!
19:50 - Reached Lonavala Charger
20:08 - Charging from 40% to 60%
22:33 - Don't laugh at 18 kW Charging!
23:30 - Software Updates Chat
24:32 - Harman TouchScreen is Trash!
27:15 - Final Updates
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www.pluginindia.com - Авто та транспорт
- Read the article with some nice photos of the Tiago.ev
www.pluginindia.com/blogs/driving-the-tata-tiagoev-electric-car-from-mumbai-to-pune-a-test-report
- English Subtitles are available.
- Sections
00:10 - Pre Drive Chat
03:58 - Drive Starts
06:10 - 90% SOC Update
07:21 - 80% SOC Update
09:06 - Highway Speeds - 70% SOC
09:57 - Charging Habits Chat
11:57 - Battery Pack Issues Chat
14:20 - Regen Level 0 Cruising
14:52 - Just before the Ghat
15:10 - Driving UpHill Tiago.ev
19:14 - Why Electric Cars are awesome!
19:50 - Reached Lonavala Charger
20:08 - Charging from 40% to 60%
22:33 - Don't laugh at 18 kW Charging!
23:30 - Software Updates Chat
24:32 - Harman TouchScreen is Awful and Needs to go!
TATA should add an app that does proper range estimation with recommended stops. They have a good market share and have sufficient data points from all EV owners. Right now the drivers have to do their own route planning.
yes there are 3rd party apps which have a lot more data anlytics
The Unicorn of Pluginindia. Spotted. Very rare person to hear.
Just take a Vande bharat express next time. Does not meet such city traffic. Plus its fully electric.
Very practical video. Thank you. Gave us an insight about the car. 👍
Great show, I love all the tech talk you have done and I would like to add a correction... In Li Fe Po batteries balancing can be done more efficiently in 2 ways bottom balancing .... Done efficiently anywhere between 10 and 20% or even can be done upto 40% where electronics kicks in and this requires that the charging is done through BMS itself that is BMS is inline in the charging so even if it's DC charging the charging level will be throttled so when you are connecting 50 K Fast charger practically for a good 10 mins to 20 mins it will balance first throttling the charging speed. So when you are in a hurry it will delay the fast charge process. When there is top balancing the balancing kicks in at 95% battery level and ideally the lifepo chemistry requires it to charge slowly above 90% hence I think Tata has deliberately done a top balancing schema when u r in fast charge mode u charge fast and get away hence the spec says good to fastcharge till 80%. Top balancing is best of both worlds where it's not every day you need to do this. As you well said charging discipline is the key . I really don't think that there will be no active balancing available in BMS ..
Beautiful battery pack info buddy.. keep up the job. Very informative and accurate. I work with batteries for last 18 yrs as a SI and cell balancing on BMS level is what Tata needs to modify to better the great product they have we can extract a good 5000 cycles at acceptable degradation. And more fast charges than now
Many Thanks, I got some confidence in my booking.
Speed, battery, and range display screen is smaller and has more side signal area. It can be little bigger actual display area. Another issue is related to electronic fitting that voids the warranty, like reverse sensor for top ends or camera in lover varients, should have given that flexibility atleast through dealer right?
Hi, just a small doubt regarding the software updates.
In the brochure I've read the only the Tech Lux supports Limited OTA updates. Does it means the other variants can't be updated or they can also be updated at the service centre?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the video, I have to agree that E2O was way ahead of its time and thanks to Mahindra and team for killing it and shaming them in a manner that makes XUV400 look like 80s truck.
Great Info, Can you share some info on your purchase experience? Which version did you buy, and what was on road price after subsidy in Maharashtra? Is there wait time?
Hey, it was a great and a helpful video. I would like to know the name of the song that you were listening, it was very soulful. Can you please help me with the name?
Its "Ray Man Shabad" by Snatam Kaur
agree it was a good one
what about in hills? what could be the range?
Did you say there is new software update for nexon EV also? Next update after the prime software update?
18 kW charging for a 24 kWh battery is not a joke. 24 kW speed is 1C for the 24 kWh battery of Tiago ev.
Nice informative video. Want to know your thoughts on 19.2 KWH XT model and traveling to MUM to PUNE.
Buy the 24 KwH battery !!! XZ+ variant is best !!!
May i know the dashcam model that is being used on your car? :)
How did you find faulty cell with 10% SOC? in your older ev car?
THANKS VERY MUCH 🇮🇳🙏
Nice video, very informative... I booked this tiago ev, but i am having 2nd thoughts about going thro the purchase,because i live in a hilly state of Meghalaya, and I don't know whether this car will serve me because of the hilly terrain here. A few months back , i bought an ola s1 Pro, and it's a wonderful scooter,
I booked this car from Guwahati [ 55 metres above sea level] and Shillong being my State capital [ 1550 metres above sea level] , will this tata tiago reach my city with 100% soc becoz its all uphill and the distance that I have to travel is about 130-135 kilometers?
Uphill route is tricky.
It will loose range rapidly when u drive uphill.
You may have to top up once on the way. If there are no fast chargers, Charge for few hours at a restaurant?
Have a 4 sq mm extension cable made.
and on downhill you can regain most of your charging!!! ;-)
Good video, Tiago ev 👍
Thanks! 👍
Good video
Spot on points on the central screen and software integration...sadly their dealers in Chennai are pretty bad...😅
What to check on delivery.please guide me
I am a daily MPEW commuter. I am looking for an EV that can go to and fro Pune in a single charge. GMaps shows 255 km as my commute distance. My question would be the one that could achieve that feat. I am taking account the regen from the downhill so I believe Nexon EV could do it.
Nexon Max ...
Best tension Free variant for you !!!
Nexon Max can do it in One Charge. It’s real world range is around 300kms if drive @60-70
Just for clarification ur kilometer travel before the ghats is 91.4 kms at 57% Soc..and on reaching the charger ur kilometer is 110.6 km at 40%Soc.. so at 17% battery percentage, you travel 19.2 kms ......is this correct ?
Cost of new battery if battery bcme outta warranty?
Each cell can be replaced seperately
I am playying to buy tiago EV LT XT. It is around 2.5 L extra than a normal petrol car I want to buy. But since this is my first car I am kind of thinking it will be a good choice for me as it will be in the mix of city and highway. Regarding the battery and infra issue, Resale property, and stuff like that do you think it is worth taking a risk? Need some honest advice.. #Pluginindia Electric Vehicles
If you want to use an electric car to its full potential for 8 years or more and save lakhs of Rupees by Tiago.ev
If you want to use a car for 2-3 years and sell, then u can decide for yourself.
so my view as a EV owner for 3 years and done 70000 kms.... how are you saying its 2.5 LAkh extra? if i were to buy my normal vehicle 3 years ago i would have purchased for aroudn 10Lakh as i had an ertiga before that... the primary thing, future is EVs, there are RTOs who have cleary published regulariyons only EV will be registered no more petrol 2 wheelers... so its high time you only compare EV to EV... if you still want to compare smoking vehicles, you are not going to leave a cleaner planet for your children.... or mine...still if you want to do a cost comparison, how much kms would you drive in 6-8 years? how much would you spend on a ICE maintenance and how much on feul expenses?
if you make a total ...you will see the EV is much much cheaper... consdiering that the current gneration of tata EVs with their battery chemistry will give 2500-3000 cycles...that means 5 lakh kms... battery is gaurantee for 8 years... but we expect it will last 10-11 years... and if today the battery is 30-35% of the Car cost... compare it to Mahindra e2o or reva the car cost was much less % compared to battery cost...
in future battery tech will be better, more denisty, less cooling needs, and less cost... so when you want to replace after 8-12 years... you will get either at same cost a higher range or lower cost for same range...
i am sure you can not do that so easily on an ICE...
most of the car works on software now, in ICE there is still so much mechanics involved...
at the end, my 2nd home car is being sold by end of this month as i am to get my 2nd EV! so i will be 100% on EV and no more petrol!!!
@@vivekvivekahuja Wonderful real life story. Sometimes we dont get what is there to think. Getting EV and avoiding pollution cars is a no brainer. You help your pocket, help India and the city air when u go EV.
Sir i have 15 year old petrol car which has done 80000 km and still running great. Registration bhi 5 year aur renewal ho gya till 2028. I think I'm a very good candidate for Tiago EV. But I'm afraid if it breaks down on road like multiple Nexon EV have. Should I keep my belief and move with Tiago EV or should I go for petrol car. My Tiago EV would have 100% city usage. Never outside. It will replace even my bike commute. That's why I'm considering. Please guide.
Is it long range or low range
Getting me tiago Ev next week, how to join the ev community group on whatsapp
Can we sit n car with ac on while fast charging pls reply
Yes, but first ensure charging starts, and then sit in car and start AC, please refer to manual for exact instructions.
@@pluginIndia okk
How much money spend for Mumbai to Pune
oh wow , when u saw the ladies u made an mating sound, i like it man
Good observation
Nice informative video. Is Tiago ev a good car for a first time car buyer like me? I have been following every videos about Tiago ev (specially from plugin India) and have been wondering if this car is for me. I also took a small test drive of tiago ev. Everything is good but there are a few things that I am wondering about like is the boot space of 240ltrs sufficient enough for long trips and is long trips even possible given the real world range of this ev. One more thing is that in our society having a charging point is not possible currently as I have external parking and all covered parking slots are full without any common area available. So, if I buy this ev then I will have to charge it in public chargers till the time we can have a charger placed in our society(which can be months or years from now given the lack of space). Can anyone here please advise me regarding the boot space (will it be enough for long trips), are long trips even possible with this range and is it feasible to depend on public chargers for a longer period of time. I would also like to point out that my usage would only be on weekends for most part of the year with maximum drive of about 20 KM's or so. Thanks in advance
Thanks for the comment.
If your use is only on weekends for 20-50 km per week, then you can easily top up charge at nearby AC chargers (check PlugShare). You will have to do this only once a week. But you have to be regular and ensure it charges upto 100% for balancing.
You can do this until you get permission for society to setup a 15 amp socket. But do get a 15 amp socket installed at your society on priority.
Regarding Boot Space, I will get someone from the community to answer.
boot space is OK not great! but OK... 240 litrs...with a small area below the boot floor mat too! but since you can do a test drive check it out and place some of your bags and see if you are good with it or not.
Personally, if you want do a comparsion and test drive with Cirtoen, they have a better battery size, more boot space and car space (comparable to PUNCH) but less FEATURES!!! so its a fair comparison, if you need bigger boot space like 310ltrs...citroen offers it, has a larger battery, so you will get some more range, but some features are LESS!!! so its wise to do a test drive of both and then decide...
i booked without even looking at the TIAGO EV and am happy to take my delivery in a few days now!
@@pluginIndia hey thanks a lot for the reply. So, the AC chargers would take too long to charge right? so, in this case i will have to arrange an alternate mode of transport to my home while the car is charging or am I thinking too hard on this .
One more thing I would like to ask is that can an ev be my only car for the next 7-10years?
Sorry, this will be my first car so I am posting tons of questions.
@@vivekvivekahuja thanks again for these details. This atleast clears some of doubt regarding space. Actually I was concerned about space because my inlaws and my parents visit from to time. So, I was thinking about space more for times when I will need to pick and drop them to airport etc. (again I might be thinking too hard on all these nitty gritty details). Also regarding citroen, i am yet to test drive it but from different online reviews I got to know that it has air cooled battery unlike tiago ev which has a liquid cooled one. In some online forums I have read that aur cooled batteries would degrade more than liquid cooled ones. Another thing is that is the power adequate in citroen(57bhp) and the top speed of 107kmph, is it really that less in real world usage?
@satyabrata - Yes once a week, you have to leave the car overnight at said public charger location and pick up morning. Alternatively you can try to organize a 15 amp socket at a shop near ur home and charge there. Shops will help if they see revenue. Speak to some of them and see. Charging at home is highly recommended, as that is the biggest advantage of an EV. Every week sit on society manager's head and tell them this is important. We have used only electric car for 10 years and that was a 100 km car. The Tiago can go 200 km. If you live 95% of time in city, then Tiago is idea and can serve you for next 8+ years and save you lakhs of money by not using OIL.
Nice background music.
Why it shows only 186 km range for 315 claimed. I guess it should show atleast 220-250 km range!
I have the Tiago XZ+ Trim !!!
You use a lot of jargons assuming everyone understands what you are saying... Anyway good feedback
For electric cars TATA should entirely ditch the dealer and sell directly via manufacture stores. It is ridicously oversold the petrol cars in dealerships.
I choose top varient
The leather seats really make a difference
91 km 57% and 110km 40%😮
Tiago uses NMC battery. Not LiFePo
No. All Tata cars use LFP.
Not new information!
Ap logo ko sidha baat karne me problem ata hain?
हिंदी मे बनाओ यार
Eco mode sucks … its a gimmick
Y don't u speak in ur native language like marathi Or watevr. Instead of blabbering in a foreign language
What’s the top speed of the Tiago ev ?
120kmph
Informative and knowledgeable video on Tiago EV.. perhaps first on YT..
My Tiago EV XZ+ model delivered in last week.. it's really fantastic..
Please guide me how to join EV Community in Pune...
Plus one for procedure to join, so let us know. I own EV Max.
Which location did you buy it from and what was the on road price?
@@Narendrakumarvarma I bought from panchajanya automobile warje, Pune.
Me too, got delivered last sat, LR XT. My first EV car, Awsome car. Free from stressfull traffic. The range it got 210 km. this saturday planning to visit mumbai and back on sunday. This video is very usefull. Thanks. I want to be part community in pune. Pls guide.
@@nitinjd1 I am getting range of 255 km which is totally amazing.. It's all about how we are driving... did went to ahmednagar from pune and return in same day with Cruze on for 70% is making experience more & more rich and flawless...
All right! Kamlesh the Unicorn spotted. Cherish this video, guys. It's very hard getting Kamlesh on camera 😆
LOL. Technically not in front of camera. Just the way I like it :)
@@KamleshMallick Just to hear from you is great, Sir. You are my favorite person in pluginindia maybe even in the EV community. The depth of knowledge that you have is amazing. Also, you are a vegan, so do I. Huge respect for the choice as well. One more connection between you and me, you are a computer science engineer, and I am a final year CSE final year student. Just a fanboy talking. One day want to meet you and maybe talk a little bit. But yes, We want more videos from you, even if it is from behind the camera. Thank you for reading the whole thing.
Electric cars is future
1 st view
I am lucky that I live in Chembur which just 1.5 hrs away from Lonavala and 3 hrs from Pune. 2 hrs driving in Mumbai takes the whole excitement away from the trip.
so are you saying that the BYD motor on the eC3 will have better BMS calibration
Definitely the BYD e6 has a more sophisticated BMS from our tests.
- You get high speed DC charging (40 kW) even at 95% SOC.
- You have no issues not charging upto 100% as I discussed
- Kamlesh
@@pluginIndia Thank you for your response, however I am very disappointed with the eC3 price and will be going ahead with the Tiago Ev booking
@@mallyboo What were the issues with Citroen eC3?
@@pluginIndia cost and lack of features primarily I feel it’s over priced by 2L at least. Except space no real usp
HARMAN is entertainment hardware with OS. TATA has interfaced BMS and ECU etc with HARMAN through application software. Obviously, it's not integral part of tiago ev. However it is one more visual display in addition to dashboard
Got my XZ+LR 2 weeks back in Bengaluru. I didn't get the chance to drive it much as I had to come to UP the next day to attend weddings. Waiting to get back so that I can drive the car.
It's my first car though. Hoping for the best. Thanks for the video.
What on road price you bought it at? Also, with subsidy and without subsidy. At our place in Varanasi, they are selling it at 12.5 on road. I think they are selling it at very high rate.
Mine was not top variant. The one below that and without fast charger. Ex showroom price was ₹10,79,000. 1% TCS. No road tax. I think I paid 3,000 more for registration plus fast tag etc. That's all
I had to get my sanctioned load upgraded to 4KW since I am using regular charger. For fast charger you might need higher sanctioned load. Without that they won't install the charger. Without charger installation you won't get car delivery. My dealer blocked the registration until Tata power okayed the setup at my place. I live in a rented accommodation
@@Narendrakumarvarma No Subsidy. Karnataka government does not offer any subsidy on EV. They are planning to impose road tax on EVs in future. I guess I bought in time.
@@ayushjaiswalawesome Even I have booked xz+ variant. How come at my place they are selling it at 1 lakh extra price?
@@Narendrakumarvarma I booked the car when it was launched. I locked the introductory price by booking then. The introductory price was valid only for the first 20,000 bookings. Later they might have increased the price of the same variants
I think Tata should collaborate with Ola for software ola software team is best in the world 🌎. They can tweak and communicate control and manipulate with entire vehicle
141wh/km on my Tigor EV would set all alarms ringing in my head! 😀 Hope you checked tyre pressure - something is definitely not right there! Probably something to do with Mumbai traffic & weather
For uphill this is fine
Awesome review
Thank you Plugin India
Glad you liked it!
@kamlesh Any specific reason why you didn't take the Vashi route and travelled all the way to Airoli and back ?
There was lot of traffic at Chembur - So google maps asked me to go via Airoli, Vashi - Kamlesh
Please share video for Pune - Mumbai as well
Got delivered last sat, LR XT. My first EV car, Awsome car. Free from stressfull traffic. The range it got 210 km. this saturday planning to visit mumbai and back on sunday. This video is very usefull. Thanks. I want to be part community in pune. Pls guide.
Sir I also booked XT lr variant and will get delivery after a week or two. Just want to know whether touch panel lags or response is useful
Congratulations! How did it go?
@@pluginIndiaIt was great experiance. Pune to mumbai, SOC was showing 48%. Did 90% charge at chembur. And next day afternoon did charge again at tata moter at nerul. Till now i have done 3 trip and yesturday completed 1 month, had 1st service and now od is 2000 km. Happy to have tiago ev.
Lovely video! It's nice to have the experience and perspectives of Kamlesh, who has been driving all sorts of EVs for more than 9 years. Interacting with community and OEMs as well. Thanks for going into detail!
Wish Tata gave response like when the customers would get their car, after asking the showroom they have no clue when ,which is kinda disappointing booking at the earliest
Tata ev good job but not for me. Waiting for korean and other EVS.
Chinese ev will be best for you 👌
@@Narendrakumarvarma no woh aap lo hum s korean etc 👍
@@Reddylion maine already made in Bharat ka tiago ev book kar liya hai. Tumhaari tarah Chinese maal nahi lete 😁
@@Narendrakumarvarma tum apni katara taiago apni g... Me daalo 🙂..have a good day. By the way i don't like Chinese too.
@@Narendrakumarvarmaactually tiago ev is a good choice bro.
Also let us know in case anyone hears about software update for EV Max. Haven’t heard anything in last two days yet.
We have booked xz+ variant. Waiting eagerly for its delivery 🤩
Good choice
How much have you done today ???
@@VermaRajinder we drove around 1300km
How much is the range
@@kncoer With AC approx 200kms, without AC approx 240kms
The range is very low.
Yes.
It's all about how we drive.. I got 250+ km which is really amazing...
Not sure why he didn't take the Vashi route and travelled all the way to Airoli and back
@@piyushvadnerkar7325howw