How to build a Cache & Select a Site | Always be prepared | Tactical Rifleman
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2020
- With all the craziness in the world today, we are beginning to realize that we are only one or two elections away from possibly having to defend our freedoms. No matter what form this defense becomes, there are certain skills that everyone needs to having. Survival, marksmanship, and medical are a few of the skills that make everyone's short-list. However, even if you are fully self-sustaining (few are), you are going to need to be able to keep certain "valuables" squirreled away from those that would take your stuff. This bring us to this week's video on How to make a Cache.
So, I did a quick search on the web and, while there are many videos on gluing a PVC pipe together, no one has a good video on ALL the required sub-tasks. THey do NOT talk about Site Selection. They do not talk about you or, even harder, some other team member being able to FIND your Cache months or years later.
Randy "Rawhide" Wurst has taught "Caches" all over this fine little blue marble that you call Earth. So, I picked his brain to ensure I wasn't missing any key details. I think that you will find that this video is long but informative. I hope you enjoy it.
Watch it a few times. Take notes. Then, get out there with a couple buddies. Have each of you make a Cache complete with Cache Report. Then, exchange data and see if the others can find your cache. It is this practice that will help hone your skills, so if the time ever comes, you wont be trying to make this up as you go along. Learn from OUR experiences. Knowledge is power, and Knowledge can often be your best tool.
Strength & Honor, TR
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There are two types of moisture packs. It is actually good to use both.
1. Moisture absorber
2. Oxygen absorber
Note on flex seal. Buy it by the case. If you are real concerned about moisture getting in, close it up and seal it with the flex seal. In fact, you can spray an entire ammo can with flex seal. Be sure to clean surfaces well. Acetone works very well. If you use vaseline, even a small residue on your fingers can screw up the bonding. Acetone solves that.
Other considerations:
1. Some containers for changing oil can work. Look for the ones that have the 8"ish hole for the oil to drain into. If its just a pistol, ammo, and some survival stuff its a decent and inexpensive option.
2. Dog food storage containers, especially those with gamma seals (but don't trust them. Use that flex seal on the outside and vaseline on the inside).
3. There are some large food containers for cereal etc. Water tight but not as durable.
4. For very large stuff look at small fiberglass septic tanks. These have their own set of pros/cons but are an option if you are looking to do something big.
5. Look around for companies that import drugs. Many drugs are made in Switzerland etc and they are shipped in bulk inside very durable, water tight containers. I've seen 15 and 30 gallon containers. They are USP grade and tough as nails.
6. Get a vacuum sealer. Those rolls of bags can be slipped over an entire rifle. Not only that, if your outer container fails, you have a backup layer inside.
7. If you are concerned about metal detecting, you can consider burying a bunch of old car parts, nails, tin cans etc. all over the area. Make it really unpleasant to find your stuff. Combine that with the decoy above the cache and you are good to go.
8. You can accelerate the aging of the metal with acid.
9. Make sure you can identify your location in the dead of night, rainstorm, under snow, you name it. Pick your spots so you can identify in any condition.
10. Contents of caches. Think hard about what you will need. Money, ammo, food bars, guns, batteries (package carefully since they can leak), documents, survival blankets, etc. IDs can be a tricky subject. Do you want your cache loaded with the ID of the person who left it? This is a subject you can do an entire video on.
11. If you check on your cache, do it as a walk by. If you are seen you don't want to be hanging out in one spot and drawing attention to it. At most, if you are concerned you might be seen, act like you are checking your messages or something but avoid doing anything that may give it away.
12. Take pictures. Lay out contents on a table, take a picture. When burying the cache, take lots of pictures of the cache location and everything around it. Take a picture of the cache in the hole (be aware for good or bad the gps location of the cache will be embedded in the pic). 1000 words... You can delete pictures if you are concerned but your cache report is just a big a security issue.
13. Bury deep enough animals are not likely to dig for (primarily if you have food in it).
14. Pace counts. Specify what your pace distance is and in units people understand, in addition to the count. Make sure those looking for the cache know that you are pacing off one leg or both.
15. If you bury it in an area you are not from, don't go looking for it while dressed like a complete outsider. Don't draw attention to yourself miles before you even get to your cache.
16. There should be some redundancy. If you have a compromised cache and it contains all of one thing like ammo, you may be screwed.
17. Remember that when you go to put vaseline on the seals of ammo cans, those seals have two sides.
18. Sometimes caches can be put in interesting places, each of which will have its own pros/cons and up to you to decide on whether its a good idea. To whit: hollow of a tree, septic tank, beehive, etc.
19. Get a 100lb propane tank. Empty it, remove valve, fill with water, drain etc. When you drain it, the water can reeeeeeealy stink, so be prepared. Carefully mark a line about 3/4 of the way up from the bottom. Cut the tank into two halves. Braze a fitting that a 1 lb propane container will screw into, into the inside of the tank, over the exit hole. You may need to muck with the valve of the tank for this. On one part of the tank, weld or braze some thin strapping inside the tank to form a lip and something you can use to seal up the tank. Once all done, you can install a bottle of propane on the inside, make sure there are no leaks eh? Place the top onto the filled cache, seal it well with something like flex seal and mount the tank in a logical place that looks like you use it for something. Hold the tank up with a strap that goes around the tank, right where the split is. If someone checks the tank they can open the valve and propane will come out. This one is also nice because it is right under people's eyes and its right where you can get at it.
@@nullface_YT Quite true. But if there is a gun confiscation etc and they come looking your place over, this is an option that may be missed. But as you say, if we reach the point people are looking (whether a propane tank or anything at all on your property frankly) then yes things have reached a point its too late, in one aspect at least.
@Sooner Longbow Quite right. Pictures can be an issue but so is the cache map etc so its a judgement call. Would a picture of a pipe laying in a hole be evidence of anything illegal? Not yet anyway but times may change and if it comes to that you will likely need that cache more than you can imagine. So in the end, pictures are a real pro/con thing. One might be tempted to hide a thumb drive in their house somewhere and just have the pics on that. Not good. The production of memory electronics uses specific chemicals and the police have dogs trained to find those chemicals. That is how Jared from Subway fame got caught with child porn. So if hiding something like that, make sure its in the woods somewhere it won't be found too.
You said that there are basically 2 types of moisture packs; moisture and oxygen. But (as far as I know) these are 2 totally different things. If you know of a chemical that does both please share ... that sure would be handy. The oxygen absorber does not absorb moisture ... just deals with the oxygen in an enclosed space. As for cheap moisture absorbers, I make 'em out of coffee filters, stapled into a pouch, filled with unscented silica kitty litter. If you need larger ones then use old socks or something similar.
BTW, you have some great tips in your post.
@@rickmars8581 You are right. I should not have said two types of moisture packs. I should have said absorbent packs. Anyway, the kitty litter is a good method. Oxygen absorbers are basically iron that when it rusts it consumes the oxygen to make the rust. Pretty simple overall. So, if you have a source of iron filings that can also help. I don't recall the mixture but I think it requires salt as well.
Flex seal doesnt last
Never cache anything that you can't afford to lose. Unless you are burying within an area that you control or can surveil regularly, your cache could be found by accident when someone excavates ground for another purpose. Particularly true on government land and privately owned property. Also, don't put all your eggs in one basket, spread vital equipment around. Happy digging!!
His mustache has 3 purple hearts and 14 confirmed kills
And 47 happy ladies......
This is the funniest comment I've read this year! Thanks for the literal laugh out loud 😂
@@w4shep HA!
A comment this raw gave everyone herpes. Well done!
Sad we live in a day we are seriously discussing this in the USA. Thank you gentlemen for this great info.
I still have pages about burying guns I tore from magazines (Soldier of Fortune, for example) in 1993 when Bill Clinton and the Demonicrats were debating the "Assault Weapons" ban.
very good point, I agree! Reagan said we would have to fight for freedom in every generation, I don't remember the exact quote but I do understand it better now
Not trying to be rude but we’ve been talking about this stuff for decades.
"Seriously discussing"? This is serious? Grown men playing Cowboys and Indians? Only in the failed state of America and its leader Agent Orange!
@@petergilkes4391 Feel free to step into a tire fire and rid our once great nation of any danger your genetic deficiencies could contribute to it's safety....
Tip to keep your self when your are setting it up do it in deer seson and set up a dear blind and do it in there
That’s a good idea
I like to bury my cache in my shanty while ice fishing.
Great idea...
I use my 2lb protein powder containers as cache units. I wrap the threads with plumber's tape and then seal the cap (outside) with outside, waterproof sealer. I can cut the sealer with a knife, rock, etc, and easily screw the cap off. They're also black and a good size to fit 1-2 days worth of supplies in it.
Smart idea
Cool. Do you reckon they would fit neatly into a 6" PVC pipe?
If you use a national forest as your cache site. Go camping in your brightly colored tree hugging gear and bottomless tent. Set up tent, dig hole at night, fill it in, and continue your tree hugging,puffy jacket hiking/slash camping. The ground may looked disturbed but you just had a campsite there.
So basically Randy is a living legend of an operator. Impressive credentials. Thanks for your contributions Randy.
If your going to bury your guns
When are you going to grow a set and dig them back up and use them.
When your the last man standing.
@@davezemba9109 LOL
When you find yourself digging a hole... definitely a sign of interesting times. This could be a great tactic for getting things off site, but near home base. Because of my physical limitations, close to home is better as I'll be "bugging in" unless we have to move out due to a forest fire or a bunch of guys all showing up at the same time wearing the same outfits all carrying guns.
Thanks Karl. Thanks Randy. Not just for this but for all you've done for us.
Blue helmets?
Canadians are about to be all over this video right about now
Am Canadian. Once the ground thaws bud... Once the ground thaws.
What exactly are the laws about burying things, can you do this on public property, parks, etc?
..... nothing to see here EH! just here in the Canadian rockies
✔ Kelowna, B.C., Canada.
Dennis Barca I was telling my buddies that there’s gunna be a run on 55 gal plastic barrels. Lol. And GPS’S as well.
Wow sir, Randy is a knowledge bomb, much respect to this man. An honor to have a former specops operator take time to learn us civilians these kind of things. Will be very handy when our rights get thrown in the bin. Keep up the good work, your channel is gold.
Thanks for watching, TR
Learned more the second time through 7 months later than I did the first time! Well done patriots 😎🙏🇺🇸💕🎈
Id recommend a warning note along with it.
Something like "If you touch the cache keep digging cause this hole will be your grave".
Or have the note say: this cache is rigged to self destruct.
If the cache is on public land, if it is found it will likely be investigated & taken, and you can't really complain, it's part of the risk.
Some day archaeologists who happen across Randy's cache are going to appreciate all the trouble he went through to properly layer the dirt, rocks and age the rusty metal .
Wouldn't that be awesome.
You know though, this degree of throughness is what sets Army SOF apart. They have training as a primary mission. Not just door kicking (if needed) ...in addition to language skills...awhile different level of smart
@@TacticalRifleman Is there a plan to re-visit this particular cache in the future to see how the contents have held up, or is that one for the grandkids?
I've been thinking about this the past few years,no internet searches about it or anything and here this pops up on recommended vids...LOTS of good info I never considered here.Decoy metal objects is brilliant.Always use multiple decoys as any experienced metal detector rechecks the hole after every recovered item.
Glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful. We put out a new video every Friday. TR
If they're metal detecting your property, the time has passed for needing a gun.
Vtmtnman42 what if the technology improves?
Look at ground penetrating radar.
@@kylethedalek GPR has a certain minimum size of equipment (wavelength vs. antenna size). Folks are not going to be randomly running around the woods with GPR, even if they became as cheap as metal detectors tomorrow. And GPR has a *very* limited footprint (again, a function of *physics* more than technology). Note that GPR on dry (especially sandy) soil has much deeper penetration (many meters) than heavy wet soil and clay (often centimeters) - so don't bury stuff in a sand dune if you're worried about GPR; go at least a meter deep in heavy clay.
Also, don't cache stuff in places where people would have a reason to use GPR. For example, I *wouldn't* use a cache point in or near a highway (especially an overpass) in the US, because of the risk of GPR being used during construction like replacing a span. All it takes is one example of something (archaeological artifacts like Indian relics, discovery if a below ground waterway, weird rock formations too large to just dig through) that justifies the time of scanning the work site to see where they can and can't dig. My hometown ended up calling in a GPR survey for an overpass renovation after first finding ancient Indian artifacts, and then an underground stream. (Turned out, however, that soil conditions made GPR effectively worthless, so they ended up doing seismic surveys to look for "discontinuities".)
But that wooded slope in rocky territory, that isn't flat enough for McMansions, farming, or highways? Extremely low chance of someone going over it with GPR or a seimic survey. Places that suck to dig also tend to suck to do subterranean surveys.
And don't ever, ever use an abandoned structure as your cache point (or even really close to it) for a long term stash, lest you come back and find they've thrown a Walmart over your cache.
Looking forward to the day I can afford to just bury gear. Still trying to get squared away above ground as a college student.
An aspiring tactical rifleman
I got a couple 120MM mortar cans for $20 a pop. You can break down an AR, wrap it in something, and slide it in there easy peasy. I did that, plus a Mossberg Shockwave, and buried it in my backyard for a few weeks as a test. Worked great.
I say go old school. Don't get caught up on the latest and greatest. It's the Indian and not the arrow if you got old school gear and know how to use it you'll be just fine.
Caches don't have to be all $$...food, gear, tools. But your thinking right about priorities.
@@nunziobusiness1509 I think you bring up something JT can really use: those Mossbergs (and the Ruger's Wranglers Sic mentions... and their American) are some of the most affordably priced firearms in history. Gunbroker dawt cahm ofc would be his friend
@@anthropicandroid4494 I got my Shockwave for $325, but I bought locally. You can get them under $300 now.
This video is more important today than 7 months ago when it was made.
And even more important today 4 months later.
"Hello everybody, I'm Johnny Cache..."
Hi Jonny
@@TacticalRifleman
Black Rifle Blues
"I hear that train a-commin', it's rollin' around the bend
And I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when
I'm stuck in PVC prison and time keeps draggin' on
But that train keeps a-rollin,' on down to San Antone
When I was just a baby, the Libs told everyone
Always be a good boy, don't play with no black guns
But I shot a can in Reno, that was filled with dye,
When I hear that whistle blowin', I hang my sling and cry
I bet there's commies eatin' in a fancy dining car
They're probably drinking adreno and smoking big cigars
They say I had it coming, They say I can't be free
Uncle Joe's shotgun keeps a shootin' and that's what tortures me
Well if you freed me from this prison
If you'd take that compass line
I'm buried 30 paces from a big rock n knotty pine,
Far from plastic prisons, that's where I want to stay
And I'd let some rifle tactician, shoot my blues away" - Johnny Cache
@@coyoteclone I can't give this enough thumbs up! An absolute work of art!!!
@@bigd7861
Thank you sir.
This song is number one with a bullet.
@@coyoteclone n
I was a volunteer on an archeological dig back in college. You’ll never know what sort of trash you’ll find at any level even in areas that are “undisturbed”.
I’ve used these methods for caching non perishable items, such as camp supplies, into hunting locations here in AK. Spend the off season caching the items in so as to not have to pack them in or out during the season. I retrieve the items when the seasons over or the following off season or just leave long term when I know I will return to hunt the area the next season (if practical to do so). This has been been a beneficial use for me. I cache the items in a respectable manner as to not do irreparable damage to the environment as well. Another good vid TR!
Come on we all know randy keeps everything in his majestic mustache.
A 'Stache Cache.
@@robertwaddell1059 I see what you did there
@@robertwaddell1059 best comment bro
Most metal detectors reach 15-18" down max. And most people looking will keep searching if they get a hit. So even if you're leaving old trash down to 4' you might actually be leading them to your cache if they keep checking the pit. Best to dig deep and have no metal at all in it. If you want to throw someone off maybe dig some other holes a little ways away from your cache.
When the government tells you that you don't need a gun, you need a gun.
When Government says you dont need guns....They are fixing to do something they know you would shoot them for doing.
A detailed map will only help big brother recover your stuff. A report is stupid as hell.
this aged well
One rule I use is to never hide anything on property belonging to you a relative or friend. Rule number two, don't hide it within one mile of your home, this makes it mathematically much harder to find your items. I always vacuum pack everything twice and use a gas like nitrogen or L.P. that displaces oxygen to flood the tube or can. In place of the Vaseline I have always used waterproof wheel baring grease for boat trailers.
And, after carefully placing your caches on ground that can't be associated back to you (don't even take your phone with you when going to the site, BTW, lest someone sniff your phone history for cues), bury a bunch of metal shit all over your property.
Force them to dig up the entire property because they keep getting hits on trash.
I like to toss a hand warmer pack into the tube, just before putting the slip cap on; it removes oxygen, and I think helps keep the cap on with the negative pressure it creates inside the tube. Otherwise the air inside likes to 'fight' me when I'm pushing the cap on.
Handy tip for burying stuff:
If you have grass in the area, you can likely dig down under the roots of the grass all the way around where you intend to put your cache and pull the grass up in like a sheet that you can then use as a plug over your finished hole once you've buried your treasure :)
3nertia shhhhhh that’s what I’ve been doing
Threaded end is called a "clean-out". You can find a lot of excavators who have "short" pieces laying around. The use of desiccant is good...if you think that oxy absorbers are ok for the whole pipe...be careful it'll pull a vacuum. While stationed in Hawaii found a vintage WW2 ammo can with .30 Cal machine gun training blanks....still in tact. One small rust hole....all ammo and steel connectors still serviceable. Humid, salt air environ.
When Karl said "I love you brother" at the beginning of the video, that was pretty cool.
Did this ten years now. Got it from where the Russian aks came in loaded with grease. Bought them when I was 18 from a gun store in a basement. One of the best guns I have ever shot
Good info. My family have been preppers since the 60's and myself since the 80's, and we've done a few of these ourselves over the years, and one thing we like to do, is when placing that scrap decoy steel, we always take a longer steel rod and actually drive it into the ground by the PVC. This makes it near impossible to pull it out and few people have enough ambition to keep digging and digging to remove that rod. Now even if they remove all the crap, they will still keep getting a positive hit in the hole and hopefully assume it's that stuck rod that they can't pull out, and abandon the dig, but if they keep pulling easy to remove scrap, and getting a positive hit, they'll keep going until they no longer get a hit, or they find what they're looking for....I would. Give them a reason to quit searching.
We also have not had any real luck with others trying to find what was buried when using the MGRS, pace counts, or anything else, so what we come up with a way that worked for everyone. We find a location that has two permanent points, let's say two trees, then we drive a small fence staple at the base of each tree. No one ever sees them, unless you're really looking for them and even if they do see a staple in a tree, no one cares because we've all seen that or a nail, a hundred times before.
Then we stretch the string from that staple to the point where the hole is, and measure and record it, and do the same with the other string and staple. So one string might be 10 feet, and the other may be 15 feet, and when you go to recover your stash, all you need to know is where those two strings intersect at their respective distances, and that's your spot.
Me, I like using trees because even if someone cuts it down for firewood, the stump will remain, so keep the staple low, and it's also easier to hide under leaves when low, not that anyone would pay any attention to it. If you're going out to recover one of your caches, measure and mark your string before you go, and then just tie them off, stretch them out, and dig where the two known measurements intersect. Unless you're Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, one of Jerry's kids, or blonde cheerleader from Kalifornia, you can easily find what you're looking for.
If you don't want to write anything down, we even used the dates in someones birthday and also Christmas, 12/25, for our KD numbers and in one of the trees we used TWO staples side by side and that was for the larger of the two numbers. Again, for us, we needed a simpler way of doing things that didn't require hardly any training, detailed note keeping, or uncommon numbers to try and remember. Everyone knows a birthday or Christmas. Also, if someone finds your cache map, and all you have is a basic map with no numbers, or anything other than "T1" for tree one and "T2" for tree two but at the top or some where it's labeled "X" for XMAS or "BDJ" for BirthDay John, only those in the group know what that means. So the map is still pretty useless to anyone who might come across it. Keep up the great work.
Unorthodox, which is a great example of thinking outside the box. Thanks for sharing, TR
That string 'bi-angulation' method is brilliant!
Trees will grow over the staples/nails in a very few years if it’s for long term storage.
It helps when using a slip-on end cap to drill a hole in the cap before putting it on the canister to allow the escape of some of the trapped air in the canister, then inserting a self-tapping screw into the hole afterward with a sealant like asphalt tar. Removing the screw when retrieving the canister allows removal of the cap by equalizing the vacuum created by the desiccant’s removal of air moisture and/or oxygen.
Words to the wise... when Randy talks - LISTEN & LEARN! Great video as always men!
Vacuum heat sealed bags are great too.
ChristianBolt ESPECIALLY ammo !
vacuum will suck in moisture if there's a leak, better to pressurize the tube with nice dry nitrogen
Ergo Sum Ouch... I bought an expensive system 5 yrs ago (has paid for itself several times over, in food, ammo & other items) & have not had 1 leak (I am knocking on wood {my head} , & greatful for such... )
Thanks for warning others if they buy the $19.95 tv vacuum sealer specials ! lol
I do not know how to do your suggestion... would take homework , trial & error sampling... I try to keep things simple...
@@seminolerick6845 think 7mil milar bags. Use the industrial sealer. NOT the cheapy one. We do food in them and have tried all and the 7mil does not leak or allow water in or out. FYI I put a couple wrenches in our bilge for over 5 years. Coated with Vaseline. Looked new when I sold the boat.
@@ergosum5260 - Double-bag the stash. Put your valuables in the inner bag and put that in an outer bag topped off with desiccant.
Watching 7 months later how this is needed more now than ever. Thanks
As for that plumber's goop, I would just go ahead and use RTV sealant, I personally like the black stuff but all of the colors should set the same and you can even use different colors for different purposes if you wanted to as they have black gray blue red. I would definitely use RTV sealant instead of the plumbers group because RTV sealant is meant to keep moisture out of engines and oil inside of them so if it can do that on a metal surface or plastic surface that goes below freezing and well above any temperature that those pipes would see in nature that's what I would trust my cache of goods with.
Careful with those satellite photos...if your internet history is investigated there will be a record of the spot you "google earthed". Get these photos from a library computer a couple towns away...don't leave any site research on your computer.
Nice video keep it up
or any thing else?
That’s probably not enough. Every one of us is probably on some kind of watch list for watching these types of videos. FYI: the government also keeps tabs on people that buy certain goods in bulk more often than they could ever use them. In times of “national crises” expect the National Guard to show up at your house and take your food to “feed the community”, and your guns and ammo so they can “protect the people”. That’s why people cache items, but when they can easily watch you from 10,000 feet via drones that can loiter for 24 hours, they aren’t as effective anymore because they already know where to find them.
@@byewhobayou8868 Spot on. Maybe have to create fake personas to use on websites like this.
Tighten up the security settings on your computer's web browser. Maybe even use TOR or even TAILS. "Sanitize" your computer often.
I can see 'authorities' coming for our food and carting it off to "Redistribution centers". They need to feed the masses to keep them at bay. Nothing worse to The Man than angry, hungry mobs. The great masses of sheep or normally very disorganized, with their collective heads up their @$$es. But hunger will turn them into organized, ugly mobs quite quickly, I think.
As for drones -- let us look at some UA-cams on how to jam them electronically.
Randy is a great source and easy to talk to.
Cache in plain sight. Take same paint can, empty 1/3 to 1/2 of the paint out into a separate container. Seal your stores in vacuum bags and put in the paint can. refill paint to cover stores. reseal and set on the shelf with the rest of the paint cans. Works well for small items...small side arm, ammo, cash, etc...
Step 1. Dig a hole.
Step 2. Remember we're the hole is.
Much easier said
Finally ... the truth... ur spot on.
Step 3: bury nails all over the area to deter anyone with a metal detector.
1. Dig a Hole
2. Learn to spell, 'Where'.
Thats perfect short version lol
Loop the yellow rope through the handle of the ammo can, then tie a grenade pin ring to the end and bury it. (no grenade, just the pin ring)
Thank you both for your service, Gentlemen!
Thanks!
This is brilliant. So detailed. I wouldn't expect any less from two OG's though. Brilliant channel.
Randy is such a pleasent humble man - despite (or due to) all his life experience and achievements!
Quiet professional.....as it should be. Only met one operator that was a pompus ass at a wilderness EMT training...he was navy.
Guy thank you I've been thinking about doing this but didn't want someone with a metal detector finding it that's grate
Thanks guys. GREAT job of the detailing all the various small details. Immense respect fellas. I had the honor of working with a group of MacSog guys at the end of their active duty careers (and some riddled up G-men) back in the early 80's. Most folks haven't a clue ...myself included. Thanks, great content.
I like the proximity to the creek idea. You can take the leftover dirt (you'll definitely have some) and put it in the creek. It will be reassimilated much faster. It will muddy the water for a short time, but it shouldn't give anything away.
Flooding could be a problem
@@gradypalmer8764 If you go upslope from it far enough. maybe not. Flash floods will tend to flood the downslope, obviously.
As a truck driver that drives through most of the 48, this is a really good idea
Great show! Feels good to watch and know that my thought process is on track!
I an so glad there are true patriots like you left in this country. I hope that You won't be called apon to defend us again but I am afraid it is coming to it. Please keep teaching us that never served how to help out.
"Fear an Old man on a job men die Young"....
Just yesterday I brought up the fact that I have a few caches between my house and my father's house each with a slightly different load out and each in a place I can get to with very little effort but enough out of the way for people not to venture often.
Solid plan.
Sure buddy. But sure sounds good. I don’t believe ANYTHING I read on the internet and your one of em.
@@texasghost6725 thanks for taking the time to vocalize your disbelief. I don't really care what you believe or don't believe and the ideology behind not believing things on the internet is pretty stupid. 🤷♂️ Have fun with your boring unprepared life.
@J people like him typically do.
Gentlemen, thank you. This is the most detailed video on caches that I’ve seen. 👍
Great video! I've never thought about caches in depth like that but you guys brought up some great points and tips. I love the old school approach too
Rent a bobcat with auger and extensions or a tow behind power auger from Lowe's or Home Depot , hand auger will work , go to you're location drill holes , leave overnite in case of water , put preps in PVC , put roofing tar on all points of potential leakage , fill with garage floor absorbent , backfill hole/holes mostly with with gravel ! I'm 67 I've done some burrying and seen burried preps after 15 years , very little rust ! Power line right aways work well !
That's great on your own property but some things need to be buried where that bobcat doesn't belong.
This video is for you (right now), Canadians.
Yup
When you find it's time to bury guns.....it's time to be digging them up.
220litre food grade HDPE barrels is what I have been using. They have a screw top large entry lid. -The type a wholesale seller might sell pickled olives in bulk in. These are $15 on ebay and just need a hose out to get rid of the olive smell. I like to keep things like, water purification tabs, .22 calibre nail gun cartridges (im Aussie and we have strict gun laws here.... .22 nail gun shells are amazing improvs! just superglue a tiny lead sinker with a hollow point on top, manual drills, multitools, SW radio(wrapped in alfoil of course etc).
These barrels are incredibly buoyant and can be used for many other uses. As they are buoyant, fill the remainder of the barrel with rice or clean sand, as if there is a flood in your area and you buried shallow, it might raise. Or bury it in a non flood area.
Thank you sir. I'm definitely going to work on my map and compass skills now. Thank you for your time.
Another point of consideration is the frost line depth. As the ground freezes and thaws over a few years it will push stuff upto the surface. Where I live the frost line is 4'.
Great info gents ! Adding this to the arsenal of skills to be perfected 👍
Thank you both for your time in service,God knows you were put through the ringer.Thanks for the great information.GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Getting an inexpensive metal detector is great fun, especially with younger kids, and a perfect way to collect your time-worn trash to use as decoy material. If you get lucky, you'll find something of value. Been doing that for years. Also, get to know local builders. Sometimes you can raid their dumpsters at building sights for pipe scraps. Some will sell you drops for cheap. Commercial construction sights for big buildings tend to use the larger PVC diameters. Great vid guys!
It'll be hilarious watching ATF dig up my whole 3 acres seeded with steel and aluminum cans and me knowing my guns are actually buried elsewhere...!!!
great way to get your garden dug up. Just before spring planting.
Royce Hagerman... My garden is the one place I didn't seed... maybe next year...!!!
Yup several towns away
Won’t be funny now cuz they know they ain’t buried there, ruined all the fun.
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In Alaska, when we can actually dig, it's still daylight between 2 and 4. Cover I think would be key.
You’re the only channel that I’ve ever seen that’s taken a quick break for the UA-cam ads. Thank you for doing that because ads are annoying when they abruptly cut people’s conversations off
Great video guys, its really awesome that you're willing to share you knowledge and teach others what it has taken you decades to accumulate. Keep up the great work!
If you're worried about metal detectors, make sure you throw and/or bury a bunch of nails in the area, it will give lots of false alerts and hopefully cause anyone searching for your cache to give up after they only pull up nails multiple times.
I would also "encrypt" the cache report. Very cool video!!!
Thank you two wonderful men for this knowledge.
You guys are the best. Don't let Randy slip slide away.
Trying to keep him around
There's also the problem - with screw-on caps - that they tend to 'stick',... and then it becomes near impossible to unscrew them without a wrench! if you use Vaseline - or plumbers tape - on the threads, it has the potential to leak, or moisture will eventually encroach thru the threads & get inside the pipe. I would recommend 'bagging' the items with moisture absorbers & then VACUUM SEAL them - before putting them into the pipe,...... just some added protection! BTW, I LOVE the idea of multiple caches across the country, travel anywhere & still have supplies! GENIUS!
Also there is what is called a test cap. Plumbers put them on the pipe before the threaded plug fitting so if the thread leaks the second cap is still air/ water tight.
Another great way to throw off metal detectors is placing your cache underneath power lines. Power lines screw up a metal detector, the bigger the lines the more screwed up the detector readings will be.
Wa Gr & the less likely they will be removed as they are a major grid supplier 😬
Wa Gr what if the technology improves and they use ground penetrating radar?
kylethedalek omg... seriously ? Our local leo's have an annual fight for existance funding... such radar' s costs... trained operators prior to searches... friggin get real chief !
ReadyTo SaveIt that’s the now what if it gets settled?
And what about other areas?
And the technology gets cheaper.
Yup and burrying nails randomly in the area
I did my CCW class w/ Chief Wurst when I was in 5th Group. Chief Lowery taught it at a closed H&R Block office on 41A.
As a `former` point & scout (USMC) 1965>66, in Vietnam in `I-corp)` 2nd Batt 3rd Mar Div. Charlie was superb at Concealment I agree with ya on that topic. It cannot be emphasized to much.
Wow...this guy actually Stayed Tactical!
Depth is the key. Most recreational metal detectors won't pick up anything over 2 feet deep. Also hunting season is coming up, best way to bury one undetected is do all the work inside a portable ground blind.
Thank you for your service gentlemen ! Great training video for all of us !
Glad to help
Thank you. Answered many of my questions. Almost all is common sense. Thought the idea of putting cord on the tube was excellent.
You can also put things in your vacuum sealer, then put them in your container.
A great site selection is in the middle of a berry patch with lots of thorns. The patch hides you and may provide a nice snack if the berries are ripe yet at the same time most people do not go far into the patch.
nice, I'll add this to my detecting sites list =D
Thank you!
This is American gold!
God bless you!
Great job. Glad you mentioned non-reliance on GPS. Odds are good that non-secure GPS signals will be jammed. One thing to mention was make sure your cashe location is not subject to heavy erosion. Higher ground or small inclines rather than low spots where water might flow in heavy rains may eventually divulge your pull rope or other items. Great idea on the decoy metal. Old lawnmower blades look weathered straight off the mower. They make good metal detector decoys. Also an old metal post in concrete that is difficult for someone to dig up will make your metal detector guy walk away.
If you want a CHEAP source for desicant, go to pet supplies in most stores and get the CRYSTAL (not a brand name) type of cat litter. It's desicant!
It's only about 7 bucks for 4 pounds. Put some in a cone style coffee filter, fold it over and staple it in a few places. Some brands have scented crystals mixed in with the desicant. That's ok as long as you don't use it to store food. For food, find one that is just dessicant. It will probably be just the clear crystals only. If you think it's not working anymore, throw it in the oven at about 125 degrees for an hour or so. Good as new!
You can also litter the area with half inch or 9/16" nuts to drive a metal detector crazy.
"cashes" "cash." HOORAY!!! Finally a channel that knows how to pronounce the word "cache." Geez, you have no idea how happy you make me. I've corrected (gently, I thought) NUMEROUS guys saying "cachet" when they meant "cache." Everybody gets insulted. Just one more (very minor) reason that I have so much respect for this channel. You guys have very HEALTHY egos, and you know how to learn, and so don't (apparently) have a weak need to defend yourselves. Now, one minute into the video, I can watch the rest, that I'm CERTAIN will be very useful and informative. Keep up the great work guys ;)
Awesome info! Many thanks to you 2 Legends, huge respect.
Thanks for watching, TR
Love the Boy Scout reference. Some of my favorite survival books are Scout manuals. They are perfect for educating people new to survival and prepping because of their simplistic nature. I'm a former Army MP, former Scoutmaster and retired LEO. Great, solid content as usual!
Thanks for watching, TR
Thank you gentlemen for your service, FIRST n foremost. Hide in plain sight, hollow trees, stumps, logs should work for drop off. Creativity and planning.
Susie Bunny Rabbit’s Cross:
My grandpa learned to make cachets from his dad during the great depression. One marker that they used was a cross for a buried pet. They would put a cross in the ground and then on the cash report indicate “x” paces “x” direction (example: 15 paces west of Susie bunny rabbit’s cross).
Tree Arrows:
Another thing they would do would be breaking low hanging rotten branches, keeping them still attached to the tree, but touching the ground in the direction of the cache.
Not sure if that’s great ideas or not, but I worked for them in their time.
Even if nothing bad happens, knock on wood, Imagine all the fun this is going to provide for future treasure hunters.
. . . . or archeologists.
Ahh the old timber hitch from boy scouts a long time ago....
Love videos with Randy
Wow, it was good to see my old friend Randy.He was always full of knowledge. Good class but I don't know if I would have put all this out on the web. Good stuff. As always, keep walking with our KING!!
bunch of good info / thanks. Seems to me, that unless you are needing to get into a PVC cache pipe and close it up multiple times, it would be best to use the PVC glue and seal the caps on permanently. Water is a persistent and sneaky thing, and temporarily sealing things could lead to ruining everything in the cache. this would be a disaster if you really needed what was stored in the PVC pipe.
Be careful of the vapors from PVC glue that will be trapped inside your container. Do you want your food cache stored in a Tetrahydrofuran, Acetone, Cyclohexanone, Methyl ethyl ktone, PVC Resin, Chlorinated chloro-homopolymer ethene, Fumed amorphous silica atmosphere? Or do you want your clothes to smell like that if you were planning to use them immediately?
@@flylowlevel817 if off-gassing from the PVC glue is a concern, then letting it cure for a couple of weeks may be in order. Instead of using a permanent end cap, a screw on cap with a low-VOC adhesive calk might be in order. One could go a step further and vacuum pack the items going into the cache.
It might be worth a comparison test.
I agree. Anything that gets buried should be sealed with pvc cement. Leave a space at one end filled with crumpled up newspaper and cut off at the cap. You can reuse the pipe if desired.
Great points from you all. Thanks.
@@flylowlevel817 Most tube construction I have seen have at minimum one glued joint. So this defeats the concept ??
I'll propably get a search warrant and my garden digged out by the Neo-Gestapo for watching this video in germany 😂
They may not know it. I am told by UA-cam computer experts that even the ISP cannot see any further than the domain name. Suggesting that your Internet Service Provider can see that you're looking at UA-cam, but not exactly which one.
Lol, start using TOR for your web browser. Or even TAILS!
Another great video, always good to get a reminder like this and a few extra tips. Thanks and all the best from your friends in the UK.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video, and thank you for the info. As a person that metal detects i don't set my detector to avoid iron as most do. Its like Christmas to me to open a new package every time i get a hit. And for those that do this, to be selective, just look at the guy who dug up a huge gold nugget that came across his detector as IRON. He laughed all the way to the bank. There is a you tube video about this.
Keep up the great work and thank all of those who have served. God bless my brother 82nd Airborne Div. And i thank my step dad all the time full blown Colonel US Marines (current age 92) and still going strong. Old say" hard to take a good man down".
Thanks for watching, and thank you for your service, TR
One of the best places is grave sights . Especially fresh dug ones . It doesn’t mater if you know the person . As long as you know the cemetery in headstone very easy to find again. Or give directions to someone else . And you can check on the Area with out drowning attention to your self
Just don't put your stache next to Arch Stanton's Grave. Waaaah waaaaah Waaaah! Might be blown now.
You guys earned a sub from me with this one. Wish I could sub twice! What a cache of knowledge you both have to share with everyone! Glad I found this!
I have learned a few good tricks. Thanks!
Karl and Rawhide putting out that great content