Dardick Model 1500: The Very Unusual Magazine-fed Revolver
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The Dardick 1500 was a magazine-fed revolver designed by David Dardick in the 1950s. His patent was granted in 1958, and somewhere between 40 and 100 of the guns were made in 1959, before the company went out of business in 1960. The concept was based around a triangular cartridge (a “tround”) and a 3-chambered, open-sided cylinder. This wasn’t really of direct benefit to a handgun, but instead was ideal for a high rate of fire machine gun, where the system did not need to pull rounds forward or backward to chamber and eject them. In lieu of military machine gun contract, Dardick applied the idea to a sidearm.
The Model 1500 held 15 rounds, inside a blind magazine in the grip. It was chambered for a .38 caliber cartridge basically the same as .38 Special ballistically. A compact Model 1100 was also made in a small numbers, with a shorter grip and correspondingly reduced magazine capacity (11 trounds). A carbine barrel/stock adapter was also made. The guns were a complete commercial failure, with low production and lots of functional problems. Today, of course, they are highly collectible because of that scarcity and their sheer mechanical weirdness.
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David Dardick could have invented a belt-fed revolver but the world wasn't ready for that
Haha auto belt fed revolver go brrrrrrrrrrr
“Revolver-Cannons. *Belt-Fed Revolver-Cannons.”*
Sam had a pair of these, and he was fond of warming them up…
He did actually. The point of the tround system was to be an aircraft belt fed gun, the handgun was just to raise capital
Ye
@@stev3548 He also worked on the H&R SPIW which was pretty much a belt-fed assault rifle with a similar revolver cylinder to this gun. And yes it used it's own version of Trounds as ammo.
Ian:" and he called them......"
Me: don't, please don't
Ian: "Trounds"
Me: Goddammit
Goddammit
Goddammit
Goddammit
Goddammit
Goddammit
"I know what you're thinking, 'Did he fire fifteen trounds, or only fourteen?'"
" I tink 'twas tree fiddy"
U feeling lucky punk
He says shots not rounds... So the trounds dirty harry joke wasn't as clever as u thought.
@@nt-hd5fo this make you feel special....huh did it..you feel all smart and shit huh...mook 😒
This comment is severely underrated.
”THE TROUNDS ARE NESTING” sounds like something someone would say in a weird sci-fi movie
That's an entire plot device, copywrite that schmitt or something.
I think I saw that happen on the Discovery Channel once...
A few moments later some slimy disgusting man eating aliens crawl out of slimy, soft translucent eggs.
You dare mock the proud Trounds?!?
@@secretbaguette *copyright
Friday. "flintlock machine gun" Tuesday. "magazine fed revolver"
And Webley semi-automatic revolver. Where is this gun world going? =)P
The next should be belt-fed bolt action rifle
what next, a three round bullpup anti-tank rifle feeding from a helical magazine?
A Very Disappointed Red Engineer I’d want to see a weapon like that.
@@DissedRedEngie That sounds like something from a Cyberpunk or even Dieselpunk story.
So the 'Forgotten Weapons' logo was a real gun after all.
Mossy500A Pretty sure it was the OSS Flying Dragon: ua-cam.com/video/E0R8FHpGQis/v-deo.html
@@mrb692 I just googled the flying dragon and noticed that the daily stormer did an article about it using Ian's video. I wonder if he knows...?
The logo is not a Dardick
@@mrb692 yeah the look the same
@@Baby4HeadAutographer No, Ian was in Seattle then.
This feels like a borderlands weapon, even the round being called tround.
I was thinking of the revolver in bioshock actually
It looks like a Torgue gun with a Jakobs barrel and grip lol
It looks like the drang from destiny 2
@@linkthesloth2867 it is the drang from destiny 2
If it took more than one tround you weren't using a dardick
This is amazing. You get many of the mechanical failures possible in a revolver, while still getting some of the failures possible in an autolader. You can't swap the magazine, and you can't reload with moon clips or speedloaders.
The worst of both worlds! What a pistol.
i would thumb up this comment, but its appropriately at 357 so i can't
@Pidalin I am surprised that this gun wasn't featured in Fallout 4...
Would it be possible to develop a stripper clip to have a faster reload? Like the C96? Although with the triangular rounds it would probably be a real pain to use...
@@CranialMalfunctionI have good news for you. There's a mod for this very gun
It's like the rotary engine of guns.
The trounds Remind me more of a wankel engine
way better? more horsepower? or more points of failure?
@@JRockySchmidt More points of falure? It thought it has fewer moving parts.
Ending up being a commercial flop and only liked by specific enthusiasts?
@@AakeTraak less moving parts but a need for tighter tolerances
The Dardick - For when you can't decide between an auto pistol or a revolver and want the disadvantages of both!
RavingRaptor plus a non removable magazine!
@@karlasmith What it really needs is a stripper clip slot and a magazine disconnect.
The Dardick- because you watched too much Buck Rogers as a kid.
Well, the action is all controlled by the trigger so no need for a spring swap to cycle, and there's no exposed cylinder gap meaning holding it poorly won't result in cut fingers (though it's quite hard to do if you consider the thing's quite sizeable).
Say "it has some of the positives of both mechanisms but this goes at a great cost in other aspects"
Ian Bruene that’s what the M14 has
The design of the packaging and graphics are shockingly modern. You wouldn't even know this thing came from the 50s judging by that box. Truly ahead of its time lmao
I was thinking the same thing. The box looks super modern. I thought it was some weird gunsmith from a few years ago or something.
Agreed, I quite like it. The packaging, that is. The gun is horrible. 😅😂
I swear to god this is like a bioshock revolver upgraded with increased capacity brought to life.
That's what it reminded me of, I absolutely loved the guns in bioshock. It was a mixture of primitive and futuristic. Only game where I actually used every weapon equally and put out the extra effort to get the upgrades.
Reminds me more of how revolvers in Borderlands can have more than their normal number of shots because reasons, personally.
I'd say I get where you're coming from, but I thought the revolver in Bioshock got a second cylinder, iirc.
@@StupidIsMyJobIn Bioshock 1, it’s just as you say. In Bioshock 2, the extra ammo upgrade for the pistol takes the form of a goofy ahh rectangular box extending at a 45° angle from the cylinder. It looks exactly as insane as it sounds.
It sounded like Ian died a little when he said, "tround."
Yeah I died a bit when I saw him die a bit. Pretty bad.
Tround is really the dumbest idea imaginable as explained by Ian. Ian sure doesnt understand geometry as much he does guns. Its not a "triangle" design cartridge, its a circular bullet with a triangle encasing.
The Trounds triangle design does not save space, it just uses the empty space which is completely pointless. Because its restricted by the circular projectile. For getting as much mass as possible a triangle (thus a square or rectangle) is best for fitting within a magazine, but for encasing a circular bullet obviously a cylinder uses the least space. If you wanted to save space from the Tround you would cut the 3 corners making a cylinder.
If the entire cartridge meaning even the slug and primer where triangular then it would save space. But since the bullet is circular then a circle is the smallest size geometry to encase the cartridge. A triangles add mass and certainly doesnt save space. I am boggled this idea made it this far......
The entire premise of "The Tround" can be proven wrong by the circle, triangle, and square baby toy where they drop the pieces thru the correct slot. I am really boggled nobody in the design team, engineering team, marketing team, product line and just friends/family never understood super simple geometry a pretty long list of animals like crows, dolphins, and monkeys can figure out.
@@phillylove7290 the cross section is a Reuleaux triangle, which means it keeps the same width wherever you measure
@@CocoTehQuila Yes which makes the design even worse....
7:20 accidentally showing another problem with this design - you can easily load the cartridges backwards
He got confused. I don't blame him.
@@codyopperman5930 I'm quite sure he did it on purpose for safety reasons.
I too am sure it was a safety thing, playing with live rounds with a weird gun when making a video is a bad idea.
@@aiayou That's what I was thinking. I'd imagine the first thing a guy might want to do on acquiring one is to make up some 3D printed dummy rounds.
@@aiayou Loading live rounds into a chamber in any orientation is unsafe. Fortunately this gun makes it impossible for a round to be chambered with the latch open save for shoving the round directly into the cylinder side so the demonstration is pretty safe. See how the follower is out of the magazine entirely when the latch opens, and how Ian avoids pushing the round too far in? The way this gun is designed basically requires you to load the magazine and close the latch before a round can be chambered, and the rounds only stay there after they catch the tab on the left side
4:10 Okay, I'm adding "Celanese Fortiflex" to my list of "silly names to use in my D&D games". That the sort of name that demands a nice hat, and a grand mustache!
@Roderick storey the overweight rogue that makes up the lack in her sublety in being ... flexible.
My friends like plenty of gunplay in their D&D eras. That might as well be the name of an elfin polymer they use in an early wondernine.
A similar name selection process, cued by a spam email from a Mexican pharmacy, led to the creation of Dr. Zazox Wazoxazole, alien mad scientist.
It sounds like some complicated exercise machine... Prolly has lots of cables and straps!
That... Sounds like Ian...
Sees title - “ man that’s the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard of”
5minutes later - “ WOW! What a ingenious piece of engineering!”
I love the very 50's atompunk look of the whole thing. From the style of the revolver looking like some space blaster to the color of the box, the styling of the logo, and the styling of the ammo box.
it was made from that time, it was the look
If you haven't already, check out the Whitney Wolverine.
This would fit perfectly in a Fallout game.
the Maxim Silverman, Whitney Wolverine and the Dardick would fit nicely in a Atom Punk world, or game like Fallout.
edit: the MPL, A Luty's SMG and the M2/Ingram model 6 would also work as early game guns.
The box is *wonderful*.
Ian McCollum: Unicorn Hunter
@@SpeedRacer-pz9jn Unicorn fondler
@@m.b.82 what
Has anyone here notice the shape of the "Trounds", look exactly like the pencil grips from the late 90's?
I'm guessing they're "triangles" of constant width. It's an easily-defined (mathematically speaking) shape that behaves like a triangle for some purposes, but has rounded edges that won't dig into your fingers if it's a pencil or jam in the magazine if it's a tround.
@@PandoraSystem like a wankel motor
honestly, the outside of that box alone is artistic enough to be interesting.
I love their logo its so cute
When you get shot with this thing, you get *trounced.*
You are ducked if you get shot with the dardick.
Ba-dump-bump....
That joke was extremely funny
Trounded
This had me down on the tround laughing.
This is amazing, to see one of these; I read a Sci-fi novel where the hero had a "Darrick." He later met an gunsmith who called it by the correct name, and he described it as a "revolving automatic, or an automatic revolver, a handy thing for mystery novelists who can't tell the difference." The book is called "Tom Paine Maru."
Thanks i like to read
words i never thought i would see together, "magazine-fed revolver"
Never thought they’d make the simpsons magazine fed revolver a real thing
Wow, The Simpsons "predicted" the mag fed revolver thing (lol jk).
@@farhanrizkiahnafa7404mag revolver invented the Simpsons?
@@manuelferreira4345 Chicken and the Egg? Or the man and the Butterfly, who is dreaming who?
Flash Gordon’s slug thrower to go with his ray gun.
I was thinking Buck Rogers, in the 21st century of course
Mark Chatman Buck Rogers works also.
Sure! When the other guys have shield belts, it's time for the Dardick!
Which sounds really dirty. :P
Finally a revolver that fires hi-chew.
HAAAAAAAAH
There's a video on UA-cam of a machine gun using this feed system, and let me tell you, it's much more effective as a machine gun than a revolver.
What’s that video called?
@@MrTheta-lc8zy -I don't recall, it was a long time ago.- Scratch that, I was able to find two separate videos showing off the system: ua-cam.com/video/MTh0EMAH99A/v-deo.html , and ua-cam.com/video/wT9CH-Eh-MM/v-deo.html .
They are both seemingly ripped off of low quality VHS recordings, but there's enough to get a good idea of how they function.
@@the_real_Kurt_Yarish awesome! thanks!
@@MrTheta-lc8zy Glad to help!
@@the_real_Kurt_Yarish real one alert
>do you want a pistol or revolver?
Dardick: yes
The Dardick Trounds were actually used in Navy testing. I've got a dummy loaded .50 Cal tround.
How’d they do?
@@samiamrg7 I mean
we've been using 50 BMG nonstop for 100 years
You're right. I remember seeing an article many years ago with some designs for a machine gun based on belt-fed trounds. I think it was on Guns magazine, around mid-80's. At the time I thought this was how guns would work in the future...
1:57 "...and he called them 'trounds',.." * pause for groans.
This is actualy smart mechanism, imagine this on a shotgun. Imagine how much recoil it would have, It would be shotgun minnigun.
You're saying the recoil would be less?
@@kirkcavenaugh758 No, the imagine recoil on a minnigun and combine it with a shotgun.
Its really big. So im saying that recoil would be enormous.
@@tomaskanka6223 Shotgun shells really don't have that much recoil considering the size.
@@tomaskanka6223 revolving and auto/semiauto shotguns exist, the minigun comparison doesn't make much sense.
Helooooo, space program.
"Hello, I am interested in a 1950s hairdryer-shaped magazine fed revolver with triangular ammunition that looks like it came from the movie 'Forbiden Planet'."
"Right this way, sir."
Family guy?
Now there's a proper forgotten weapon. And for good reasons.
yes but eunice.
No
I dont know about that. Its surely forgotten, but internals if updated to 21st century, using common ammunition like 9mm and in short bullpup configuration this would be ideal to get around Finnish gun regulation where owning a handgun requires absolutely ridiculous amounts of hoop jumping and same apply to all semi-automatic guns. Essentially government is trying to little by little kill any and all private gun ownership in the country, being afraid people will riot due their corruption and out right treason, like among other things turning electric, road, railroad networks into private companies and then selling them to foreign corporations, not to mention selling Finnish clean water table to also for foreign corporations. Plus hellawa lot unneeded taxes that are then poured into private companies as government aid money, what usually are owned by politician or their close family members, most recent ones being those immigration centers and of course trowing public money towards EU to gain high paying seat in EU...
We need to see a 2-Gun Action challenge pitting the Dardick against the Gyrojet
The100thAttempt the fact this is already a thing both shouldn’t have surprised me and completely astounded me. God damn it do I love the internet
This is pure beauty...I'm not crying...whose crying *blows nose*
I feel that they should have combined their concepts into a triangle rocket bullet firing magazine revolver... They could've called it the Gyrodick
I call winner! I just got a Zip 22...
Love the short pause after "trounds" so we could all really let that sink in.
I picked up a tround for one of these about 10 plus years ago for my cartridge collection, it is one of those things you take a look at and seriously wonder how no one said in a board meeting "This is a bad idea".
Celanese Fortiflex sounds like a character in a new Star Wars franchise...
To me it sounds more like a crappy cereal.
Can't it be both?
Flex-tape in 30 years.
@MooresGroup
Who shot first?
Han Solo or Celanese Fortiflex?
And this gun looks like something from Star Wars
This gun is basically screams "I want to be in a 50s Sci-Fi movie!!!“
Depends are you the hero if not 50 50 odds you die depending on what genre
What era movie would you find a Zip 22 in? :) :) :)
Yeah. Rumor has is that the original script of the _Rocky Horror Picture Show_ calls for Riff Raff to use this to kill Dr. Frank. "I'm your new commander, you now are my prisoner!"
looks easy to tear down and maintain...pity it didnt take
I’m now disappointed that it wasn’t in Fallout
This gun is so gloriously 1950's, right down to the logo and the box. I love it.
I legitimately wish someone made repros of these, the Dardicks were so wacky but such interesting guns. Honestly with modern polymers and 3D printing this concept might be worth taking a look at.
1:57 the silence, I think, indicates the distain Ian feels for the term ‘trounds’
It's always funny to hear Ian say "I've been wanting to do a video on this one for a while" while I'm like "I had no idea this gun even existed until you did a video on it." Makes me wonder what other guns he's been eyeing that plenty of us don't even know exist.
is this the "assault revolver with a high capacity clip" that news sites keep talking about?
Maybe - depends if the Dardick is fully semi-automatic or not
Fully automatic, semi automatic
News companies; fully semi-automatic
Some random guy on the internet; Semi semi automatic
Me; gets joke but face Palms anyway
07:15: If gun Jesus can load bullets backward, so can everyone else.
Solution? A bullet that can fire loaded backwards
@@MurcuryEntertainment Kinda like a darwinian solution to the gun proliferation problem...
I had a buddy that I took shooting and he loaded a magazine for my M1 Carbine while I was in the bathroom. I came back and realized he had loaded the entire magazine backwards and did not understand why it would not chamber.
might be a safety reason dont want a live round going off
Safety
Is this the long fabled assault revolver? Also I don’t care how impractical it is I want one, badly
Cody Painter I actually designed something I called the “assault pistol”. Looks like a Halo Magnum in silhouette but a bit smaller, and the guide rod roughly alined with the center of the grip.
Imperial Shocktrooper funny comment
we could probably make a .22LR version using 3D printed case adapters easily today. Buy adapters or print your own.
gun will cost probably 3k, printing a single adapter takes an hour or two.
Magazine fed, high capacity assault cilinder with 500 round assault clips
@Jimm Crowe tis a fucking joke my man.
I didn't grow up around guns, but I always found them interesting and always tried to figure out how machines worked, so when I tried to figure out how a semiautomatic pistol worked with pure speculation and no actual firsthand experience in the matter, what I came up with was actually very similar to this.
I know its got plenty of disadvantages compared to most other pistols, but I sincerely love the look and design of this gun. It's just so cool!
If I ever make a 50's shooter this is going in!
Also this feels more like a Revolver-fed Magazine!
There should have been a Dardick-Fosbery semi-automatic magazine-fed revolver.
More seriously, this looks like with a bit of effort it could be developed into a useful design. Both the aluminum cover and steel body appear excessively large for what they need to do, and a simplified firing system may also be possible. Modern polymers and fabrication might allow for smaller trounds as well. Finally, incorporate a detachable magazine, and you could have an extremely accurate gun that would be an incredible optic / silencer host.
A good concept
Also, Fosbery-Dardick sounds like the last-name of a steampunk character
That would have been so cool
I never thought I would hear the words “Magazine” and “Revolver” in the same sentence.
edit: I stand corrected
I agree. Some of the weapons,well actually a lot of the weapons Ian has featured just make my jaw drop.
"Revolvers usually don't use magazines." See, they can be in the same sentence without much problems 😁
Reminiscent of the automatic revolver Webley Fosbury.
I read about a revolver in a gun magazine.
Technically, all revolvers have magazines. They're just internal, rotary magazines. What I want to see next is a bolt-action flintlock.
40 years ago, I was introduced to a friend of a friend. We were talking guns when he went into his closet and pulled out a bag full of pistols. He had colt peace makers, early 1911s lugers, Walthers, Schofields and then he pulled out one of these! I had only seen one in books, I never thought I would see or hold one!
A magazine fed revolver, now that’s something you don’t see everyday.
That case looks ripped straight from a pencil-holder I used to have to grip my pencils better.
they still make those
That profile picture. Seems familiar..
@@MrMinatoArisato00 it's the logo for Ooarai in Girl Und Panzer
Panzer Vor!
@@MrMinatoArisato00 Yep, I use it just because I thought it was fun to. I really don't have any other thing to use as a pf :wink:
I remember seeing someone shooting this odd little thing when I was a wee lad. I think hi name was Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen. That is what you get when you put a Gyrojet pistol and a 1911 in the same vault for too long.
Why am I imagining Commander Cody from Star Wars stuck on EDN III with this gun?
If a Gyrojet and a Mars had a child, it would look like this Dardick.
Actually it's nothing at all like a 1911.
#securecontainprotect
This deserved to be used as a star wars blaster lol
This is my luck when I go looking for a gun in the zombie apocalypse... no bullets left in existence
Combine this with a Webley-Fosbery and you've got yourself an automatic, magazine-fed revolver!
then make it full auto
@@evanwickstrom5698 and put carbine conversion handguard and stick holster
@@thesturm8686 while we're all still here it needs a massive scope for that epic MLG
Celanese still exist as a speciality polymer company. I couldn't find out anything about Fortiflex, so maybe they don't make that any more or it is called something else. They do make a product called Forflex (I don't think they are the same) which seems to be mostly an EVA (Ethylenevinylacetate), this is the stuff Crocs and similar are made of.
I'd love to walk into a gun store and say "I need a magazine repair for my revolver" with a straight face.
I learned of the existence of this strange gun, googled it, and (of course) Ian has a video about it. Cheers mate.
I've been waiting for this one! Shoutout to LifeSizePotato.
do we know if he's still alive?
yeah is he still utube active he hasnt made a vid in almost a year and half i believe
Shit, just saw this comment before posting the same thing lol
@Jurassic Pork interesting, he's still active on Reddit though so maybe he's downsizing?
@@chickenphirm8968 I don't think it's his one - if you watch the videos together, the scratches/marks look different, and also lifesizepotato had a 2nd barrel
If I remember correctly, someone mentioned in a review of their Dardick that someone had figured out the cartridge dimensions and had cartridge cases made out of modern polymer. They were supposedly semi-reliable, and dirt cheap to make...just lacking in the durability department. So at least there’s that.
A fully loaded one would weigh a little less than with brass rounds, wouldn’t it?
@@halweiss8671 Maybe? If you wanna check out the review, its by LifeSizePotato. He's also got other good ones, like on some rarer HK pistols and the PX4.
@@jaxxons11 thanks for the recommendation.
This is why I love your channel, loving guns not for the fact that they are guns but how the work and their functions. So interesting to see others ideas.
that is just the most bizarre gun ever
Is that that darn high capacity revolver California was talking about?
we finally found it!
High capacity assault revolver with high capacity magazines.
Ian had an H&K USP moment when demonstrating the loading, put the cartridge in backwards.
I noticed that too. I'm thinking maybe it was deliberate, like Rock Island didn't wan't people loading live rounds (or trounds either for that matter) into guns at their auction house.
It may also demonstrate a fatal design flaw. It seems that cartridges are symmetric so you could load all magazine wrong way.
I suspect that was a common problem
Jeff Liggett Don’t think I got used enough to to even develop ‘common problems my god what a terrible sidearm this would be
As for me I was like bruh, that seems dangerous, and then felt relieved seeing the bullet end towards the back
I first learned about the Dardick guns in the novel "The Dogs of War" by Frederick Forsyth. In the novel a gang of mercenaries turns to an arms dealer to procure guns for a coup in a small country in Africa. He can offer them mostly older weapons such as MP38/40 and such. And Dardick revolvers. The mercenaries are skeptical, having heard about the ridicelous triangular cartridges, but he convinces them that they will work just fine, and they do. So in the novel the Dardick revolver was well known and produced in large enough numbers that they could procure enough for a small army. It seems they had bought pretty much all that had been produced, since no one else wanted them. Unfortunately, the Dardick revolvers did not feature in the movie based on the book. Most of the weapons were substituted by Uzis and Ingram MAC10s dressed up to look like Uzis. Though the main protagonist does wield an unusal revolving weapon, a 26.5" Manville Machine Projector. This sounds like fodder for a Movie/novel special at the range.
Surprised nobody's mentioned it, but that is a tround going into the chamber BACKWARDS at 7:18 ... I could see that being an issue, but easily addressed! Let's 3d print some modern trounds with arrows a la "this way toward enemy"!
I’m sure half the reason it wasn’t adopted was the word *tround* . What a groaner.
Imagine going up to the gun counter like "Hey yea could I get 2 boxes of trounds?" **Gun shop owner snickers** "Um I'm sorry can you repeat that?" -- "Must I?"
@@skeetsmcgrew3282
Imagine a LEO while engaged in a gunfight.
I am out of trounds!
"Okay sir we like your gun, it really has potential and the high capacity has us interested. Now what did you say you call these new bullets?"
"Trounds"
"...okay never mind we're cancelling the contract. Get out."
Skeets McGrew Gonna go to the
field with my buddies today and send a few *trounds* downrange.
Marketing Manager: Boys, We need a new slick name for our triangular rounds!
Janitor: How about..... um...... Trounds.......?
Marketing Manager: Hire this man immediately!
Modern Marketing Manager: Give this guy $20 and a fifth of bourbon and have him sign an NDA.
Not gonna lie, the Logo design and box design is really stylish. And the rounds itself really fancy looking. Never heard about this type of experiment. Amazing video.
Whoever was doing the graphical design work for the branding and designs on the boxes was pretty on point, it's not extremely detailed but there's a good choice of color, font, and stylings going on.
I’ve actually shot one of these
It had been modified and repaired with some milled brass parts and adapter and a steel 22 Barrel liner
One thing I would like to note is all you have to do is handle one to see why it was a Failure it feels very cheap like a toy Cap gun
Damn good shit
If you actually held one and fired one you wouldn't think it was a cap gun or cheap toy.... It's actually quite heavy. It's made of steel and aluminum and is thick in quite a few areas..
It also holds 15+1 rounds.. that adds weight.
Weight doesn’t Indicate quality
It’s poorly made Compared to the S&Ws and colts that were at Available at the time for half the price
Cap guns of the 50s were also made of cast zinc Aluminum or magnesium
@@mrfluffytailthethird point being it's made fine just the idea is poor. Weight indicates quality in alot of cases. This not being zinc or magnesium counts out the cap gun nonsense and the little kicker trounds this gun fires off also isn t comparable. The firing mechanism barrel and trigger system is actually very well made. I'm just speculating that your comment is overexagerated.
Having lived in that general area for 30+ years I often wondered if there was something weird in Hamden's water...
Just when I thought I knew all exotic designs in firearms... Thanks for your research and for the quallity of your videos. Cheers from France.
I love the ingenuity of this. Bold design choices made from a place of logic.
When you see a graphic representation of a strange cartridge and you already know it’s gonna be a complete, yet interesting, failure
Dardick revolver says to the Zip 22 "I am your father"
That's not true! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!
Join me, and together we will rule the galaxy!
(Of really bad guns)
"And your uncle is the Gyro-Jet!"
kevin waddle "Well, what does that make us?"
I remember a friend of mine some years ago telling me about a mag fed revolver, Trounds, and how it worked. It makes much more sense now.
Videos like this are why I love this channel.
I have actually seen one of these for sale, back in the early 60’s. Like so many things of that era, its main appeal was that it was different. Interesting video.
Imagine having to disassemble this with a drill sergeant yelling at you while insulting your mom? Using loud, colorful language 6 inches from your face..
Disassembly is pretty easy----- ASSEMBLY under a shelter half when it's freezing and night, is the trick
Imagine losing a spring in the field
@@thesturm8686 That would be easy peasy
They really went all out on the aesthetics for this one, everything about that packing and marketing material is beautifully stylized.
You are good man my friend , good work and all the weapons are in your hands , you're lucky.
Magazine fed revolver: okay, odd
Triangle shaped casings: excuse me wtf??
The Springfield Armory museum has a Remington pistol that used a similar design and triangular ammunition... in the 1860's.
Now *that* is a forgotten weapon perfect for this channel ☺.
A few manufacturers came up with funky case designs to try and work round the rollin white patent for bored through cylinders owned by S&W,teat fire anyone ?
oooh, anyone got any more info on that thing? I’m curious now.
I'm very good friends with the Dardick family, I've seen this gun as well as all the attachments for it. Obviously not a very functional weapon, but like you said, it's only a housing unit. The real invention was the action and the tround and from what I have seen from their current projects, they were on the right track in the 50's
I read the title and thought it would be some crazy mechanism, pleasantly surprised its a simple way to mix magazine and cylinder. I was scratching my head at how it worked before I watched the video 😂
I've wanted to see someone actually touch these for one forever.
Ian, make a company called "potomac" and make a modern tround-gun
No one:
Dardick: I bet i can make a magazine fed revolver
This has to be the raison d'etre for this channel's existence. That's just nutty.
Garry James did an article in Guns & Ammo on the Dardick early this year I believe. He had some aluminum triangular cases milled out that a regular .38 Special cartridge could be inserted into to be run through the pistol; seemed to help a lot with the functioning of the weapon.
A great companion piece for your Gyrojet pistol. Looks like you could easily load a round, oops, "tround" in backwards, but it would just cycle through the action and be ejected.
I feel like this is the first video I ever watched of Forgotten Weapons. How has Ian not done this until now?
Just availability I think
One of the Sherlock Holmes stories "The Dancing Men", features a revolver with an ejector. Every time I read it, I think of the Dardick. Unfortunately, the story was written in 1903, long before the Dardick was made. What Sir Arthur was thinking of is anybody's guess. I suspect he was using "revolver" to mean "handgun".
British police guns of the era is what he meant. A handgun but definitely a revolver and it did indeed eject rounds like he describes. I can't remember the model but check it because its a real thing he's describing. Cool as hell too from what I remember.
The Jeremy Brett sherlock holmes series uses the correct revolver in their adaption of the story as well.
There were a few auto-ejecting revolvers. They serve no real purpose other than being 19th century Tacticool™
@@medes5597 I haven't watched it in a while (have it on DVD, and videotape!), but my recollection is of Abe Slaney carrying a Colt Single Action Army, no auto ejection there!
Silver and Fletcher's Expert had an auto ejector, that could be the gun Sir Arthur was talking about.
@@haroldbalzac6336 Interesting! I shall delve further into that. Thanks!
Thank you Anton for introducing this weird gun in your video so i would have seach it and found this.
Been reading/hearing about the Dardick for a long time, thank you for some good detailed info, Ian!
But what intrigues me most is the info you mention early--around the 1 minute mark--that the revolver was made to support the machine gun development. Now, THAT seems like it might be interesting to learn about. I'm guessing that with so few revolvers sold, the "real" project didn't go very far? Clearly we don't have tround firing machine guns. Was there any work/development done towards that idea?
Thank you for another excellent episode!
we actually do have tround firing machine guns! ua-cam.com/video/ifujl4j95TY/v-deo.html
Ian your personality is so awesome and you can convey information so well. Love your videos,
I love unusual gun actions and the engineering behind them.
Now this is a truly fascinating forgotten weapon.