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  • Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
  • In this video I discuss the stock 120 ohm AFX controller and how poorly it controls cars other than the Mega G +.

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  • @marcusserven4119
    @marcusserven4119 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for the info Mark! I run Mega-G+ cars on standard AFX track. As I get back into the hobby in my retirement years, I am finding that I want to upgrade some of my cars, track, and controllers. You've got the kind of videos that are really helpful to me as I think these changes through. Again, many thanks!

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому

      Thanks Marcus, I am glad you find the information in my videos helpful.

  • @uofmhockey
    @uofmhockey Рік тому +6

    Great example of how different ohm controllers affect the way a car will run. Upgrading to a better controller makes your racing experience a whole lot more fun. Thanks for the video Mark.

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому +1

      Thanks U of M!

    • @terrencelacy9432
      @terrencelacy9432 Рік тому

      ​@@marksslotcargarage is there a video to how to splice the afx plug in ti the Diflaco controller

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому +3

      @@terrencelacy9432 I never did one, I spliced mine be for I even had a UA-cam channel but I can probably do a video explaining it. I will see what I can do.

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому +1

      ​@@terrencelacy9432I don't have any AFX terminals available right now to use but it's pretty easy to do. You just have to cut off the alligator clips, twist the white and red wires together and attach them to one of the AFX terminal wires, do the same for the black and green wires from the Difalco controller and attach them to the other AFX terminal wire. How you want to connect them is up to you, I soldered them and used heat shrink tubing to give it a nice look but you can get away with just twisting the wires together and using electrical tape. When you plug the connector into your terminal track if the car runs without pulling the trigger you have it backwards and just need to turn the connector around in the plug.

    • @terrencelacy9432
      @terrencelacy9432 Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much will be trying this weekend

  • @shawnhurley8737
    @shawnhurley8737 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for the video Mark very good knowledge keep up the good work I'm going to enjoying all the videos

  • @slotslidershoslotcars
    @slotslidershoslotcars Рік тому +3

    Great video. Good quality controllers really take racing slot cars to a whole new level of fun & precision.

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому +1

      They really do! It makes the experience so much more enjoyable. Thanks.

  • @nyyommm9640
    @nyyommm9640 10 місяців тому

    Very helpful video. I have a several different track sets and cars from different time periods and couldn’t figure out why some cars were janky and some weren’t.

  • @Blueridgeracing859
    @Blueridgeracing859 Рік тому +3

    Love the DiFalco’s

  • @flashtech6492
    @flashtech6492 10 місяців тому

    Thanks Mark well done... excellent... knowing what you need to do before laying that cash down buying something that will not fill your needs....

  • @BigRalphSmith
    @BigRalphSmith Рік тому +1

    For HO cars with set type track, I've really found that the original Parma controllers with the ceramic resistors are the most ideal. Yeah, the electronic controllers will work fine but they are less tolerant of the varying voltages and lower-than-ideal current so common in home track setups. I also find that the resistor based controllers ramp up and down much more smoothly in how they deliver power across their sweep range. The electronic controllers just seem to be much easier to break than the OG Parmas and let's face it, an electronic controller is a much more significant investment than a resistor based controller. If you race on routed tracks with lots of modded or high power cars, electronic controllers are all well and good.
    I find myself wishing they would bring back the old Russkit set controllers. Those things were built like tanks and they were pretty affordable... and user servicable.

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому

      Thanks BigRalph, That has not been my experience, I find my DiFalco controllers to be much smoother than any resister based controller I ever had even on my stock AFX track. I had Partma and DS controllers for for a while and they were good controllers but to me they can't compare to the DiFalco controllers but each to his own, that's the fun of this hobby, so much to chose from.

    • @BigRalphSmith
      @BigRalphSmith Рік тому

      @@marksslotcargarage I understand where you're coming from. I know other hobbyists who swear by their electronic controllers but I've had too many negative experiences with them and they have cost me way too much in purchase and repair expenses so I eventually dumped them off.
      Have you ever had to send a Difalco unit back for repairs?
      I've had to send back two Third Eyes and two Professor Motors and it always seems like the more expensive the controller, the more likely I'll have problems with it.
      Maybe I've just had bad luck with them but, as I said, I even found the feel of the electronic ones more uneven and inconsistent.
      Maybe it's just me.

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому +1

      Sounds like you have more experience with them than me, to be fair I have only had my DiFalco controllers for less than a year, I hope they hold up and I don't experience any failures like you had, I can see where it would get costly having to repair/replace them.

  • @twsw9449
    @twsw9449 10 місяців тому

    I have developed a esc and controls with patentomitur triggers it's awesome no more resistance to deal with awesome so many options

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  10 місяців тому

      Thanks for checking out my video. Yes all the options this hobby has are awesome.

  • @SIMONSEZ23
    @SIMONSEZ23 7 місяців тому

    thank you. Perfect example why its so unfortunate these are in any sets this day and age; they should discontinue to put these cheap pieces of junk in sets and people all through the community complaining the cars of most all other types don't run right and can't keep them on the track and so on Due t these things. Even if they would put a controler like the old 1974 orange AURORA HOBBYCRAFT adjustable (but with a diff ohm rang) or DS like multi-position type controller, it would be so much better (NOTE: the 120 ohm are not for most all cars but MG+ and vintage aurora T-jets) Those seeing this -- other variable controller options are the Professor Motor controllers> the basic being only $63. the OS3HO LITE.. and actually BRAKES and NOT NEEDED for most home hobbyists playing and using plastic tracks ; evenfor racing for titles and fun - mostly for T-jet FRAY racing or more semi pro or professional type racing on mostly professionally routed tracks, but of course, one can wire the home track for brakes and use these type controllers. All this info and wiring diagrams on the web and possibly some YT videos on it. NOTE: the gray AURORA/TOMY controller is a 70 ohm as are the older tyco and other controllers that came in sets. $63 to 90 bucks is the #1 best investment you can get for your hobby- the cost of only two or three cars these days to have the very best possible HO Slot car experience.

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  7 місяців тому

      Thanks and I agree, unfortunately the manufacturers are never going to put a better controller in the sets due to cost. At least we have all the options you mentioned and yes I agree spending a little bit on a good variable controller like the OS3 Lite or Difalco DD505 is well worth the cost.

  • @johnnyirwin9838
    @johnnyirwin9838 9 місяців тому

    Great information thx you for your knowledge 😊

  • @youknoweverything7643
    @youknoweverything7643 Рік тому +1

    This is why I can only run the mega g plus car with the controller that my afx track came with originally it came with a 120 ohm controllers for them and they run perfect with it but when I put like a tyco on it it's real erratic and takes almost full throttle to get them going so now I know I will need new contollers. And it seems like the cars go faster when you get the right ohms going to it in the controller to I will need to buy a adjustable controller I saw where a guy made a variable controller for 10 bucks and worked great

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому

      Yeah the 120 ohm controllers will only work with the new Mega G Plus cars, you will need a lower ohm controller for just about everything else. A variable controller is the way to go in my opinion, it lets you run just about any ohm motor car.

  • @clnfreakone8486
    @clnfreakone8486 Рік тому

    Professor motor controllers with independent lane chokes and sensitivity adjustment is what I run on my road course and Parma on my drag strip…. They are both larger and feel better in the hand and run just about anything with the lane chokes

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому +1

      That's what's great about this hobby, there are so many options.

    • @clnfreakone8486
      @clnfreakone8486 Рік тому +1

      @@marksslotcargarageI’m actually going to be ordering a defalco dd501 soon as my travel controller 😊

  • @Patriot_Racing
    @Patriot_Racing 10 місяців тому

    Great video. Great advice.

  • @CalvertFitness
    @CalvertFitness 9 місяців тому

    great video as i just bought an older ho track and am finding it difficult to control geese stupid things. the ohm difference is the big question

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  9 місяців тому

      Thanks! Yeah a controller with a variable sensitivity is the way to go, they can control all of your cars.

  • @sed6
    @sed6 Рік тому

    For me the easiest & cheapest solution is a variable power supply. My Parma 45 ohm controllers work well on 440x2, x-trac, m-trac and SG+. Variable voltage let's me run the cars slower for the kids too. The math equation is simple V=IR. Way cheaper and more functional to vary the voltage instead of the resistance.

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому

      The 45 ohm controller will run all those cars well but probably not Mega G plus cars, even if you lover the voltage the Mega G Plus would need a higher ohm controller.

  • @shiftintohigh5564
    @shiftintohigh5564 11 місяців тому

    Good intel here.!

  • @Gale_Force_Raceway
    @Gale_Force_Raceway Рік тому

    Oh yeh... I ran into this as well. Different cars want more/less. I upgraded to DiFalco's most basic controller (no brakes) but I honestly haven't hooked them up yet because I'm still struggling with wiring... uhg

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому +2

      I have the same DiFalco controllers, the DD505, I have been very happy with them. Hope you sort out your wiring soon and hook them up.

    • @Gale_Force_Raceway
      @Gale_Force_Raceway Рік тому

      @@marksslotcargarage Yup- I recall ! And yeh I really gotta get movin - every time I post in the FB group, I get 14 answers, and 12 are different.

    • @terrencelacy9432
      @terrencelacy9432 Рік тому

      Is there a video to show how wire the diflaco controllers

  • @louisrevera5327
    @louisrevera5327 Рік тому

    Good to know about the Difalco 505 controller to get my Grandkids used to those simplified way to get them to move into the AFX Racing and move them up The Aspect how to use controllers better good job.

  • @brianyoung8226
    @brianyoung8226 11 місяців тому

    Hi, great video, Just bought a Victory 400 track. I also bought 4 viper 6 ohm vipers 1 and half ohm viper, 2 an half ohm viper The vipers don't work very well with the stock controller,. Would I be able to use my 1 to 4 ohm 1/24 scale controllers on these cars. I used these controllers to run group 7 Koford cars,

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  10 місяців тому

      Thanks! I am not familiar with 1/24 scale but I think a 1 to 4 ohm controller would be too low for the Vipers, even low ohm ones. You need in the 20-40 ohm range for those. I highly recommend a controller with a variable sensitivity adjustment, you will be able to run pretty much any HO car with that type of controller.

    • @brianyoung8226
      @brianyoung8226 10 місяців тому

      Thank you@@marksslotcargarage

  • @jacksparrow7300
    @jacksparrow7300 Рік тому

    Hello I have a AFX MEGA G+ track. But my viper cars don’t run as well. Is there a controller that works with all 1/64 scale cars. All options welcomed thanks in advance.

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому

      Hi Jack, If you plan to use the AFX terminal track and your track is not wired for braking I would suggest the Difalco DD505 for $89 on eBay or direct from Difalcoonline.com. The DD505 will control just about all HO cars well. I use it on everything from TJets to 2 ohm Viper Neo cars and everything in between and it works great. If you plan to wire your track for braking then Difalco DD500 or DD501 are great options. I use the DD501 personally on my Viper track.

  • @jeromeharris5197
    @jeromeharris5197 Рік тому

    I have (4) of the 505s without break. How much difference do you notice with the braking feature on the Afx track? Is it truly worth the upgrade ? Or slightly noticeable? Thanks

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому

      To me, it was not worth it at all, that's why I did not do my other controllers. If you run mostly high down force magnet cars the brakes don't do much, at least they did no do much that I could tell. They do help with TJet cars that don't have a lot of down force.

  • @MyFlash43
    @MyFlash43 Рік тому

    How does 45 ohm do with the Super 7 and Viper Spec (Level 4 > 6ohm arm) car?

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому

      I would think a 45 ohm controller would work OK with a 6 ohm arm. I don't have any 45 ohm controllers but my old 60 ohm AFX controllers worked fine running those cars.

  • @fordtough83
    @fordtough83 Рік тому

    Where did you find the 505? I can't find a 505. 500,201,502,504,506,507 are available but no 505.

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому

      For what ever reason the 505 is not on the DiFalco site but they are available from DiFalco off of eBay or contact DiFalco directly via email and you can order direct and save a few bucks.

  • @rustyholland7139
    @rustyholland7139 Рік тому

    Are there many adj between low ohm and hight ohm are they easy to adj

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  Рік тому

      That depends on the type of controller you get. Some controllers have no adjustment. The diFalco controllers I use are very easy to adjust for any given ohm motor. They have a sensitivity knob that you adjust till you are happy with how sensitive the trigger is.

  • @michaelbloch3491
    @michaelbloch3491 Рік тому

    What height is your track table?

  • @kimaniwilliams6344
    @kimaniwilliams6344 6 місяців тому

    Your power supply will work fine

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  6 місяців тому

      Thanks, this is an old video on controllers, not sure what you are referencing about the supply?

  • @GAguns
    @GAguns 8 місяців тому

    This isn't just true on ho my 1/43 cars with stock controllers are taking of at 3/4 of throttle.

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  8 місяців тому

      Which stock controllers? Were they designed for the 1/43 cars? it's hard for me to comment as I really only know HO. No matter what scale a good controller makes all the difference.

    • @GAguns
      @GAguns 8 місяців тому

      @@marksslotcargarage they are the controllers I found in the box. This was in a big box in my grandparents wardrobe. I'm completely new to the hobby I literally have it since last week.

    • @marksslotcargarage
      @marksslotcargarage  8 місяців тому

      @@GAguns What kind of track system?

    • @GAguns
      @GAguns 8 місяців тому

      @@marksslotcargarage it's some old ninco track