Pokémon English Dub VS Japanese
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
- Going over the differences between the English and Japanese versions of the Pokémon Anime along with @ResortOriginals
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IKU Z🔥
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
You da goat
Yo
Lol
OG-BW dub is acceptable
XY and onward sub is the only way to go
*Jessie:* "Nobody told you to bring that heavy backpack!"
*James:* "And nobody told you to bring that nasty attitude either, but I'm stuck with both!"
Both Ash and James were savage as hell
I love James 😂😂😂😂😂
@@pikathemimikyu6655 Yeah, he really just needs the money for being a part of team rocket, if he got paid enough to be good, he prob would. He is actually nice to his Pokémon (Jessie is too, Ig, she also tends to accidentally catch Pokémon. But James is nicer to his Pokémon) James could be a travel companion, and that says a lot… I mean it is sorta proven by the occational teamup episodes
@@riskyworks yeah for sure! Hes funny and mostly kind to the people around him! If you describe him to someone who dowsnt know Pokémon, they wouldnt believe he is the antagonist. Same with Meowth and Jessie really, but James more!
Based
This video felt more like Pokémon English Dub VS Pokémon English Dub VS Pokémon English Dub, haha.
4Kids vs TPCi vs TPCi
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Pokémon English Dub vs Pokémon English Dub vs Pokémon English Dub (feat Pokémon Japanese)
Mélèe à Trois
Yeah who cares about dubs I clicked to see them talk about the original but whatever -_-
I have to say that I started watching the Japanese dub around 2009-ish as I was done with high school and started college. I grew up with dial up so it wasn't until my on campus days that I had high speed wi-fi and could watch episodes online. From late DP to the present, I have preferred the Japanese dub for the emotional voice acting and stellar music! I think one of the biggest crimes was the Ash-Greninja track NOT being in the English dub!
Yep agree with ya, the dub greninja theme compared to sub greninja theme is like banana to a watermelon, just worse
I've also started watching the Japanese dub at that time cause I was so hype about the Sinnoh League episodes at the time when the English dub didn't make it to those eps yet and I wanted to fast forward and watch them quickly. And I haven't really went back to the Eng dub since then.
That was the main reason I stopped watching the dubbed version
if you're wondering why, its cuz of licensing issues for the music whether from opening/endings and OST.
took me a while to find the satoshi-gekouga soundtrack...
I started the Japanese dub during XY as I was excited for XYZ and Serena cutting her hair but didn't want to wait for the dub to catch up.
Events that I'll never forget what I was doing and where I was when they happened:
-The tragedy of 9/11
-When it was announced on television that Michael Jackson had died
-Ash's loss to Alain in the Kalos League finals
-Ash's win in the Alola League
-In 2006, when "Fear Factory Phony" aired on Cartoon Network and my ears were assaulted by the new English dub voice actors
I didn't see The Mystery of the Mirage Pokémon until I got the 2-disc DVD set with that special and the Lucario and the Mystery of Mew film, so my first experience of the new voices was "Fear Factory Phoney" during the Battle Frontier Arc.
same
Mastermind not mystery
Never forget Fear Factory Phony
And at last place: i’ll never forget ash doesn’t turn 11
@@DrakeMystical never forget iwata
Veronica is literally Delia Ketchum irl lmao
How
Plus Popular Pokémon Trainer May.
Sounds like her too
@@jaycomplexkidrandle1889 she sounds more like Ash
I grew up with dub. Didn't start watching sub until late 2019 when Sun and Moon was out. I will watch both versions.
Sweet me too. I mostly watch the sub for the music and the dub mostly for the voices but there are more strengths to both.
Hey same man
@@narxmagee727 Definitely
For me i can't watch sub, and the main reason is the name of the pokemon and the name of the characters, unlike yugioh where the name of the monsters are, most of them, in English, here in Pokemon are almost all different and it feels wierd
for some reason i watch newer seasons (maybe XYZ and beyond) in Japenese but like nostalgic seasons from childhood i usually watch those dubbed
Poor Sarah @15:10 this crap reminds me of Wyatt Russell getting the same ridiculous threats from "fans" about John Walker in The Falcon And The Winter Solider. It is ok to HATE a change in character/voice actor because it feels like a part of what made you love an entertainment property got ripped away. However, it is never ok to wish or inflict harm and death threats on someone who is just doing their damn job...
That goes too far, without a doubt.
Nah f Sarah. It's Veronica or nothing
Nah. Veronica was good in certain intervals, but most of the time that raspy voice was ear grating. She didn’t have the range of Sarah and it shows. Sarah Natochenny is the de-facto voice of Ash, she knows how he works and performs ideally in every moment. My only problem is that nowadays sometimes her voice gets a little TOO high, like when calling out Dragonite’s Hurricane. XY and early Sun and Moon was her most consistent time as Ash.
I literally didn't even know there was a voice change, but Sarah's voice is more soothing to my ears ( ꈍᴗꈍ)
IKR! I mean Sarah’s Ash took quite some time to get used to, but she’s by no means bad. She’s pretty excellent these days actually. 🙂
Fun fact about Lillie’s English VA: she voices Caillou in the show’s current iteration and Mike Pollack voices his dad. Yes you read that correctly. Eggman is Caillou’s dad.
What?! Caillou🤣
eggman dated lusamine
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CAILLOU IS SAGE’S BROTHER CONFIRMED
15:12 - 15:16 They sent death threats to Sarah?!
I’m sorry, but that’s just unacceptable. She was trying her best and she’s done amazing through the past decade and still now.
Absolutely agree 10,000%. I get being upset a voice you grew up with changed and your not really into it but the line is drawn at death threats. That is never okay especially when it's directed toward a voice actor for a fictional character.
It's not even like she was actively trying to ruin Ash. She was doing her best to try to fill in the shoes of Veronica. Nothing deserves death threats but especially not this.
ikr that was an unpleasant surprise to hear like saying the initial voice is bad is one thing but death threats is just a whole 'nother shark to fish for
I’m honestly not surprised. There always been dumb asses on the internet who take the shows they like too seriously.
I don't agree with that, what is actually dubbing? What should she try to dub, the previous Dubber or the anime? And filling veronica's shoes is not dubbing that's 3rd degree, so yeah she should try to fill the Japanese voice Actor's shoes.
8:22 A little correction, the Tentacruel episode debuted with no issues in 1998 in the U.S.
It was banned from re-runs after 9/11, but the new episodes were set in Johto by that point, so the ban didn't cause any continuity errors.
I think one of the worst casualties of the dub differences was Serena’s final performance against Aria. In the English dub, the music was underwhelming and it made you somewhat understand how Serena lost despite her strong ending.
In the Japanese dub however, the music was in sync with the camera movements and Serena’s choreography, and really made you feel like this was Serena at her best.
Thats why sub is better than dub
@@theBlazeofsuper agreed. Like, I don't know Japanese, but hey, it is better in Sub
@@BenjaminM.21After watching both of them side by side while I do like the Japanese version more for its music the Dub version isn’t bad just a bit underwhelming
@@supermariojackjack4085 yeah, it is kinda disappointing
I have to give my respect for Matsumoto Rica, Ash/Satoshi’s Japanese voice actor. She voiced him for twenty years and sing him so many songs.
A pleasure to be part of this video, Zac! Happy to represent the OG anime!!
I loved it
The roasts were definitely amazing
James: No one likes a person who doesn’t know when to give up!
May: Then that explains why everyone hates you three!
Man I laughed a whole day after hearing that
If it weren’t for the Glaceon she has, I would of have said May has no chill. XD
Ohhhhhhhhhh
Misty: "Make like a tree and leave!"
James: "Who taught you that one? Professor *Oak*?"
I miss Eric Stewart so much!
Brock and James are my favourite characters in the series, I've got used to their newer voices, however that doesn't change the fact that when I first heard their new voices, I was heartbroken!
I think dub Jessie is still good but I'm still very off about dub James and ESPECIALLY dub Professor Oak - the latter sounds too similar to James for me and didn't varied it enough IMO.
The Power Rangers guy has returned! Bless Zordon!
In addition the Pokémon company replaced them because they wanted cheaper actors. So in other words they cared more about saving money and making a quick buck than actually putting care and effort into the show
@Kyle Katarn no they wanted cheaper actors
if You Mis Then Try to Spell HIS NAME correctly Next Time
LMAO! :D
I should note that Gary’s voice actor already was working with Taj productions (though under a pseudonym) as both James and Meowth. It’s just that Gary hadn’t returned yet to show he was still around
Carter Cathcart is the only dub actor in every season
no matter which version you watch, you shouldn't be ashamed. both are good in their own right
Respect
Absolutely right. You shouldn't feel bad for watching a preferred way nor should people shame you for it. You're watching it, not them.
Agreed the newer voice actor finally got into their groove well in d/p
@@mannyblight6140 yeah I feel like it was much smoother and it got better compared to battle frontier
@EXTREME ACE if you say so
This was amazing! What a great way to compare the differences between the dub vs JP and how the anime has changed/evolved to fit the localisations. For someone who lived during the 4Kids era, this was a good trip down memory lane. Great video all! 👏🏼🔥
First reply
Yeh
I don’t know who made this and or what it came from, but Serena’s performance theme is a masterpiece in my opinion. And i still listen to it to this day. So shoutout to whoever made it.
Fax
That blessing goes to Shoko Nakagawa
@@MarioLuigi13579 japanese version only
I was just waiting for Zac to say about Serena when he was talking about 4kids pokeshipping
Same😂. I thought they really couldn’t avoid the topic since it is frequently brought up when people talk about 4kids(relating to Pokémon of course)
@みやぞのさくら that was debunked by the producer of the first movie years ago bud
The only thing i would watch the Japanese version of pokemon for was through the pokemon xy and x series since they had such an amazing intro compared to the english dub
same as pokemon journeys that shits a banger so when i hear the dub version it makes me want to drink bleach
Specialy the BGM used before ash greninja transforms during sawyer battle
Same with Sun and Moon and Journeys
@EXTREME ACE wait, that's what I was saying
You’re missing out on great voices from the English dub but alr
I really don't like the censorship. It does take away the originality of any show.
I only started watching subbed at the Alola League, so I missed out on a ton of Japanese OST's, but I still enjoy watching the dub, and whenever I rewatch the series it is in dubbed! but this was a really interesting video to see the differences between the two!
Thanks, Niall!
@@Zactoshi yo
@@Zactoshi Very good video, Zac! I have actually watched three versions of the Pokémon anime. The English Dub, The Japanese Dub and The Swedish Dub (which is where I'm from). The Swedish Dub has the exact same music and dialogue as the English Dub. The only difference is that some characters get new voice actors a lot (like Meowth, Jessie and even Paul) and they sometimes can't pronounce a specific Pokémon move right or even a certain character name.
Just turned 40 three days ago and this anime just doesn't feel old for me at all. I like the English dub at times, but I still prefer the Japanese dub more.
I used to call it that as well, but there’s no japanese dub,
The only episode I watched in Japanese was the one right after Ash’s first battle with Wulfric, and that was because the episode failed to record on my DVR. Honestly, XY is the only chapter of the anime I’d consider watching in Japanese, and that’s mainly for the music.
the original JP version, (not to be called 'dub' cuz that's like saying Made in USA was imported), has very outdated voice acting in the older seasons. This changed around Gen 4 and reached its peak around Gen 5 season (Best Wishes), with XY and XY&Z season being objectively the best season, with best wishes being a close second in terms of overall quality and animation. You have Aoi Yuki voicing Iris in that season, and a few other famous Seiyuus. Aoi Yuki voices Maya fey in Ace Attorney anime, and usually other loli characters such as Tornado in One Punch Man, Tanya Degaurachauff in Saga of Tanya the Evil, and the recent anime based on Isekai type light novels "So I'm a Spider, So What?" and "I Killed Slimes for 300 Years, and now I'm Max Level". For the latter title, she becomes a witch after reincarnation, and compared to the recent Witch anime Traveling/Journeying Witch Elaina, this one is much more wholesome.
I only watch the Japanese when the dub isnt out yet
@@pokevonforretress3761 So then what do you call it...
Here's a fun fact: During the dubbing process of one of 4Kid's other big name franchises, Yugioh, they originally released two different versions. One was the standard censored version they're well known for, but the other was their Uncut version, which they released on DVD. These episodes not only retained the original opening and ending, as well as had no censorship, but the translation stuck much closer to the original script, though the voices remained the same. According to the director of the dubs they had plans to take this idea of an Uncut version and spread it across all their popular franchises at the time, including Pokemon. However, because the lackluster sales of the Uncut DVDs the higher ups told them to stop and only focus on the censored dub. I actually have two of the three Uncut DVDs of Yugioh and they're pretty awesome. It's strange heading the same voice actors from the original dub curse from time to time and say stuff like "This is a game to the death!", but I feel it kind of shows they weren't this evil company they're said to be.
@A Stranger I didn't mind the hybrid names, mostly because I grew up with the original 4Kids dub and the manga (which confused the heck out of me when I first read it back in the 6th grade XD), and I feel that might have been due to this being their first time giving an accurate dub rather than their own translation. It may have been a bit weird for the voice actors having to record two separate sessions for both types of translations.
It wasn't during the dubbing process. It was years after they did the early episodes of the censored dub, then they went back to try and make an uncensored one.
Wait a minute was 4Kids going to make uncut for Pokémon originally
@@peepsgit likely wouldn't be much more than Tauros episodes and rice balls instead of jelly donuts
Quality. 🔥
Heya Charles
This must have required a lot of research damn, props to you guys and your team
Japanese music is a lot better. The Greninja vs Sceptile fight is the best example . It is so blant in English dub. Dont know why but they can’t make action packed battle music in the Dub. In the Sub every battle is so much better because of the music.
I had watched Kanto, Part of Johto, Sun and Moon, and Journeys. I found a video of the Greninja vs Sceptile on UA-cam in Japanese, and I was in awe, so I decided to immediately watch XY! I enjoyed the anime, but I was extremely disappointed with the dub music during the Greninja vs Sawyer especially since this fight was the whole reason I started watching XY!
I still watch the sub version of Greninja vs Sceptile to this day and the Ash-Greninja theme and the fast paced battling still sends chills down my spine. The English dub definitely dropped the ball with that. Same with Ash and Pikachu vs Kukui and Tapu Koko, “Type Wild” made that scene so epic and emotional for me.
That's your guys opinion the Japanese version makes me cringe I grew up on the dub just like with the dragon ball franchise sorry the japanese version just doesn't cut it
I concur. For example, whenever one of Ash’s Pokémon evolved in XY, they would play the Japanese intro song, and it was SO good and would hype you up. The scene where Ash’s Goomy evolved into Sligoo and completely blasted the Grumpig is still vivid in my memory mainly because of the music.
Also, another example is when they played Type: Wild when Ash’s Infernape faced Paul’s Electivire in the league. I enjoyed the English version, but I was blown away once I saw the Japanese version.
@@advenco344 you should also see Ash vs Kukui in sub. They use the XYZ theme so the epic collision inside Inferno Overdrive and play Type Wild during Pikachu vs Tapu Koko. Gave the battle so much more hype.
The censorship of Xyz final battle really ruined most awesome scenes so I recommend watching the final battle of kalos in Japanese
agree. and... the entire anime!
Though I'm not a big fan of the current music, I’ll admit that Goldfarb’s incredibly good at fanfares and scores for emotional scenes (the best examples being Serena’s crying scene, Litten mourning Stoutland’s death, and Mallow reuniting with her mom), while his music for battles has started getting better since Sun & Moon. By the time the series got to Ultra Legends & Journeys, his work has become on par with the original music from the 4Kids dub
Yes, I think his capability of creating emotional soundtracks is also especially seen in the movie endings (e. g. Soul-Heart, I Choose You)
@A Stranger I do like his main background theme for Sun & Moon (the bass guitar theme that first played in episode 1 when Ash was Sharpedo water skiing). It fits with the atmosphere of the Alola region and was used in all kinds of variations throughout the series. I especially loved the epic version that played right before the Battle Royal round of the Alola League
Exactly, hidden gems.
They got some really good voices for Journeys:
Zeno Robinson as Goh
Cherami Leigh as Chloe
Ray Chase as Professor Cerise
Even brought back Alejandro Saab(KaggyFilms) as champion Leon from when he voiced him in Twilight Wings
This surprised me when I started Journeys and I couldn't be happier about the decision they made to expand their studios! I hope they keep up the good work! 😄
Ray chase also voiced tengen uzui from demon slayer
This video puts me in the mood for some delightful jelly filled donuts. Triangular, chalk-white, hole-less donuts.
And while the current cast has grown on me, I'm still a 4Kids cast person when not watching the subs. Too many fond memories with the 4Kids cast, especially since i got to meet Veronica Taylor and Eric Stuart at some comicons.
Personally I grow up with dub I didn't know there was sub for pokemon until gen 6
The good old days best one
Same
Yes now it sucks xy anime rateing was 4.5 starts now pokemon journey rate is 3 🌟
Same
WHAT???? it’s literally an anime.
The soundtracks are what make Pokemon battles great
But when they replace them in the dub versions they just don't feel right
This is such an awesome video Zac!
They both have their strengths, but the sub definitely has the stronger moments due to their better soundtrack. Ash's victory over Paul, the entirety of XY/XYZ, Ash's final triumphant moment over Kukui...These moments are highlights of the anime that shine more in the sub than in the dub due to the soundtrack, at least to me.
Idk cause I really loved the dubbed soundtrack for Ash vs Paul. Everything else? Give it to subbed 😂😂
@@thelagoon13x I loved the dubbed Ash v Paul music too. Stuff of legends.
@Kyle Katarn compare the end of ashes vs Paul's lake fight and U will see that dub has crap soundtrack.
They messed up big time on the triumphant moment when Ash’s Lycanroc Countered Gladion’s Lycanroc’s Counter. The Japanese version plays a song that is 100% perfect for such a moment, and the English dubbers are like, “nah, let’s just play the song that plays when someone loses, that’ll fit!” No, it only works before Ash’s command. Having it continue to play during the uppercut makes no sense at all.
There are some select themes and motifs in the English Dub that I thought where really good (if not better than subbed), like diamonds in the dirt. Goldfarb has some really underrated stuff mixed in imo. Thistheone2's comment highlights some examples.
It was definitely interesting going back and watching Kanto and Sinnoh in Japanese for the first time, I definitely appreciate the dub but sub's the way to go for me! Really enjoyed hearing about some changes I didn't actually know about in the dub too - had no idea about the audio censoring even though I knew about the shurikens (if only they censored the slap sound effect after they cut out Misty slapping Ash after he caught Pidgeotto!)
where do you watch all japanese episodes?
This is so cool. You guys did a great job on this! I am one the few in pokepod who watches both Japanese and English versions. They both have their pros and cons. I know in the dub, it’s been tolerable for me. I am not as hardcore when it comes to music compared to Poli and TSS. This season for Journeys, I really love the dub cast and it’s good. I find myself rewatching it more then Japanese version 😅.
A couple things came to my attention, it might of been said. In the 4 Kids era, it was correct Tentacool and Tentacruel was banned after 9/11 but it did air prior to it. Tentacool and Tentacruel was the first Pokémon episode I ever watched and it aired on UPN several times in 1998 and 1999. I know 1999 it moved to Kids WB which is more known. A Tower of Terror (Ash gets Haunter) was temporarily banned due to the title. I remember those episodes didn’t air for a while due to 9/11. It’s been back since 2006.
Otherwise, I loved it ^^
Great video! I love the full breakdown of how the dub has changed over the years. Although I'm surprised you didn't touch on the "Americanization" that the 4kids dub was notorious of doing where they edited out anything Japanese that appeared on the show (writing, food, etc.) to make it more appealing to American audiences (for example, the infamous "jelly-filled donut" scene). That can probably be a video of its own, potentially.
Also, one of my favorite instances of bringing back an old 4kids cast member to the TCPi dub, that you didn't mention, is the original voice actor for Professor Oak voicing Cedric Juniper in Black and White. Definitely one of few highlights of that series for me!
Yes
Man I grew up to see Pokemon dubbed in my own regional language Hindi....and I came to know about the Japanese version when I grew up but after Pokemon was no more broadcasted in India I came to view it in english which for me is the next best thing of watching it dubbed in Hindi.....so I really prefer dub than sub in Pokemon....it's less like a choice but more of a habit....
Yeah buddy, goes for me too. Although I never liked most part of the hindi dub tii S11 but in S12 they improved a lot, and tii kalos hindi dub is at its best, but still i prefer watching mostly in english. And you can watch pokemon if you like on marvel hq.
Yeah still remember those days
As someone who primarily experiences Pokémon through the games, I've always had trouble getting into the Japanese anime since in the subtitles, they just put romanized versions of the characters' and pokémon's Japanese names as opposed to their localized ones. It makes it really difficult to figure out which pokémon they're talking about at any given time. Like, if someone says "Meowstic" I immediately know that they're talking about the psychic type from generation 6. But if someone says "Nyaonix" I'm left scratching my head as I try to use the few random Japanese vocab words I know to try and puzzle out which pokémon is being talked about.
I always thought Pokemon is American made. In Netflix it says American is the original so I was confused. Im learning Japanese too so dub is never an option for me and dub makes me feel the anime is more childish.
@@wonreiHow does the English dub make the anime more childish?
8:38 The Tentacruel episode aired much earlier in October 1998, its planned airing in 2001 was just a planned rebroadcast, so it wasn’t really delayed as it aired already.
We got to admit the music of final battle of dawn and Zoe and ash vs paul was like the dubs background music was at its peak. they even had lyrics in the dawn vs Zoe grand festival battle
the dub music of ash vs paul was the "ok " instrumental version (this music is the japanese openings for the thirdy season)
the music on the satoshi vs shinji (ash vs paul) in japan was type:wild (one of the ending themes for the thirdy season)
both versions beted on nostalgia, but we didnt had Ok as an opening here, it was just another song that plays during the episodes from johto region, so we didnt had the same emotional bound to it as we would have if it was one of our OP/ED.
most of the people who watch both versions may prefer the dub because they have an bound to this music and no bound to the japanese music, but those who watched in japanese have an better connection with the scene regardless of wich music is better because it was no ordinary song for then, it was an freaking ending.
so imho the japanese version is better anyway.
as for dawn vs zoe, i have no idea what the dub used, i just know i saw it in japanese and it was awesome .
The problem is not the dub, but THE ADAPTATION.
The Pokémon anime has always been changed in terms of dialogues and soundtracks, and while until DP the situation was still acceptable, for the last 4 Generations TPCi crossed the line in multiple occasions: censoring scenes that were made either for comedy or (in case of Ash's kidnapping from Team Flare and Kukui and Burnett drinking) just made sense in every way; to eliminate 90% of the OST in the episodes and insert small melodies in the moments of silence (I challenge you to say that the Alola League final has the same pathos in English); and translating some dialogues in a more mundane way - like Ash saying to Greninja "If only I was stronger" instead "If only I could endure the pain", or "It looks like Ash allowed the Gym Leader to get inside his head" instead of "It seems she has complete control over the battle".
At this point, to watch in Japanese has becamed the only way. It's such a shame that series like MHA, Overlord, JoJo and even One Piece are adapted wonderfully by Funimation and alikes, but the series belonging to the biggest franchise in the world it's still going throught an early 90s type of treatment.
Issue is most of those anime are geared towards teenagers as opposed to children. Also don't give Funimation too much credit they still mess with the dialogue and have inserted their own political views on more than one occasion.
Sadly DP and the start of BW was the last time the dub kept quite a decent amount of the great Japanese soundtrack. They won’t ever keep all the JP soundtrack because making dub music is cheaper.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 The target shouldn't be revelant at all.
Like I said, Pokémon is the biggest franchise in the world: this gives to anime, games and manga such importance that to expect the best adaptation possible is only logical.
Maybe I don't know too much about Funimation (I'm not even English, after all), but from what I've seen the changes in the dialogues are so minimal that you can even ignore them. And there isn't any sort of censorship.
@@davidedalterio4979 Hey tell that to the guys making the anime.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 The anime works perfectly. I thought we were talking about his adaptation in the West.
i watched
Indigo League to BW dubbed
XYZ to Journeys all subbed
How did you watch xyz in Japanese..pls tell me👏👏👏
Same thats what i did now
@@BHRA78
yep-
Pretty much what I did.
@@Wantechh_ honestly the only reason i switched to dub is to see goomi evolve early
Thanks Zac quite informative..I didn't know there were so many differences in the Dub and the Sub
I really do admire the voice actors from both dubs and their work not just on Pokémon but other ones they worked on too.
I thought he was gonna talk about the
intros😂
Tbh the AG opening (unbeatable) DP battle dimension op, the opening to journeys and the original op are the only ones I somewhat like
As with most anime I always found the Japanese intros to be superior. Mesaze Pokémon Master, Ready Go, Battle Frontier, Spurt, Together, and Best Wishes are all amazing.
if it counts, Jason Griffith, a 4Kids actor, actually has managed to be in post-4kids pokemon even during the transition era. I believe in the original 4kids era he was Brawly, and post transition he was given more roles as Looker and Cilan. It probably doesn't matter too much since I think by that point 4Kids had already gone under, but he managed to just keep being cast in Pokemon despite the company switch.
When I grew up, original Pokemon VHSes were still very common and episodes of the 4kids seasons would rerun on tv, but at the same time, Diamond and Pearl was already airing, so I always thought both casts were good.
Wait, he was Looker?
He was also sir Aaron in mystery of mew
U can always count on Zac to be this creative with a video 🔥
I honestly expected this to turn into a full on Dub Vs Sub war but no this was perfect it and a great way to compare the differences between the dub vs JP and how the anime has changed/evolved to fit the localization. For someone who lived during the 4Kids era, this was a good trip down memory lane. Great video over all!
As a mostly dub watcher who went in and out of sub around gen six and now watches the sub of Journeys while still checking out the dub, I have to say that I love both. I think both of them have a lot of strengths to them with sub having some really amazing music and the dub having a stellar voice cast (minus dub Lillie). I really don't think there needs to be a fight on which is better. People have their preferences and they should be respected for their preferred anime to watch.
I like the Japanese song they use for the opaning of journeys more then the English version
I like both
I am rewatching XY in Japanese dub. Didn't knew Japanese dub soundtrack of Alain vs Ash was cool
Where can I watch Pokemon episodes in Japanese dub can you please tell me
Once again great video
Honestly I miss sassy Ash so much.
I missed how mature he sounded from advanced battle to XYZ.
Also yeah sassy ash was great cos he burned a lot of people good 😂🔥
@@eljordinio7647 he did sound mature in Sun and Moon, it was the same voicing but it was made more energetic
@@Spyro101 and made him use a lot of expressions for motivations that even I never got. I mean I don't even know what the "ahah and rah" means when talking about a z move, or using stuff like "bam" or kablam" to explain how to battle
In XY he even explained evolution better than that, with the bright light and change being basically what happens
We all do.
@@eljordinio7647 atleast they didn't make him say poems
I watched the Tentacool ep on tv. It aired many times on TV. After the World trade Center though they did take it off for a while but everyone who started when the show started had already seen the episode quite a few times
Great video! Kinda neat to see someone sharing my opinion of late DP to early BW being the dub at it's best.
8:30 That episode debuted in 1998, and even then, I’m not even sure there’s any citations or articles saying the episode was banned in the first place.
For DP, Kayzie Rogers and Carter Cathcart (Wobbuffet and Gary’s voices)
stayed on the series and never left during the VO swtich, and the reason why some actors have reprised old roles is mainly due to their replacement actors leaving the series or the character having not appeared during the early transitional days.
And lastly, censorship mainly falls to network standards and practices.
20:53 About the music and lessening the impact of the battles yeah I couldn’t have agreed more and the two times where this was especially noticeable was during the Kalos battle with sawyer vs ash and ash vs Alain, the music just doesn’t hit as well as the subbed music
@25:00 you had me nervous for a second because I was like "I know Zac ain't about to say Lillie's voice acting was good..." because it was a straight pile of Garbordor! Couldn't even watch the English dub of Sun & Moon because of her since she had so many damn lines HAHA
thank goodness i wasnt the only who hated her voice
I prefer her voice in Japanese
@@madladmudkip9236 omg same
She was fine for me at first but damn did she rail on my ears for a while. I still watched the dub because everyone else around her was doing great.
@@narxmagee727 yeah i couldnt consistently watch it in japanese so i had to settle for the dub
Don't forget that the original English dub narrator left during the 4Kids era and then came back to narrate with the beginning of the Transition era
@Kyle Katarn yes
@Kyle Katarn He's great, but no one can replace Ken Gates/Rodger Parsons.
That sub music during the greninja battle was 🔥
Can we also appreciate the Japanese opening for Pokémon XYZ.
Yes, PLEASE.
Man I love that opening. Actually, all the recent Japanese openings. I don't know what happened to the dub openings, they used to be great, but they got shorter and shorter over time with less fitting songs... I just know nothing can beat the XY/XYZ japanese openings.
I appreciate it a lot, except for the fact that I like BW, DP and Journeys japanese openings more.
I started watching the Japanese version ever since Ash found Nebby.
I started when ash got to the steel gym in dp; havent watched the english dub since.
me too
Nice, I started Pokémon subbed around the Kalos League
I started in diamond and pearl my first Japanese sub was the episode tears for fears
The Destiny Deoxys music (I think it's from that movie) that plays during a lot of insane scenes during the dub always hits me hard due to Destiny Deoxys being my first Pokemon movie. I always get a massive grin on my face when I hear those violins staircasing up during a battle or scenes like that. It is and forever will be my favorite Pokemon anime music
I’ve noticed an error with the 4kids era, specifically with Tentacool and Tentacruel. It actually aired for the first time in 1998 or 1999 in sequence with the rest of season one. I’m not sure if the transition era or GoldFarb era sections have any errors, so I’ll edit this if I see any.
Yep you're right, Tentacool and Tentacruel aired early in the show's run in 1998, while I believe we were already in Johto in 2001. The episode was likely pulled from rotation after 2001.
@@_Mars1040 Also "The Tower Of Terror" episode was pulled from reruns after 9/11 for awhile due to the episode name.
i can honestly watch both versions, thought i have to rework my brain sometimes for old VAs that aren't with the series now. gotta still get use to Ash's voice sometimes.
Weird when you realise that the current VA for Ash has been his voice much longer than Veronica Taylor now.
As an XY fan, another script change I will not forgive is what Serena said to Ash at the end of XYZ before she departed. In the dub she said something along the lines of "You (Ash) are the type of person I want to be. When we meet again you'll like who I have become", while in the original Japanese she actually said "You (Ash) are my target. When we meet again I'd have become a much more attractive woman". Completely different. The dub took away the intimacy of what she really said.
I love how the dog is cuddling on the bed behind Resort Originals.
Well, looks like I'll be switching to the subs from Rival destinies onwards. I know that the Alola-Galar period of the anime dub had some great voice acting, but I just can't forgive them destroying the music quality, especially after seeing what they did to the OST for the Ash vs Kukui final battle.
Well, great job on the video. I'm currently almost done binge watching the original series in dub (honestly, who on earth watches that series in Japanese at all?), and now I know what to expect moving forward
This was great to understand for Pokémon dubbing and subbing. I learned more too
Honestly, I didn’t know pokémon had a japanese version until like a few years ago 💀. Even when i found out, it was hard to find it. I know where to find pokémon sub now and I’m so mad that they removed lots of things in the dub version
You do know pokemon is a Japanese franchise right?
@@maganhassan2627 Yes But I started watching pokémon when I was little, i thought it was an american cartoon since I watched it in english
@@Shay331 loool ok I can understand you
Is there a way for you to discreetly say where to find it? I wanna know how to watch sub pokemon
@@lilibryant2032 I can dm it to you on insta or twitter , I can only find the new series and pokémon XY atm but i’m gonna look for the rest
XY-Sun and Moon's BGM all felt really similar and homogenized. I really liked the leit motifs for Serena and Kalos Professor though. I recently rewatched XY in sub and currently watching Sun&Moon in sub (didn't finish SM dub) and I have to say the soundtracks and OP and Closings are much better (excluding Volt, lol). I wasn't aware of the minor censors in XY and Sun and Moon, but I guess it makes sense. This was actually really informative so thank you.
That Tentacool episode aired in the US in 1998 without issue, it was skipped for awhile during reruns after 9/11.
I was curious if you had watched Journeys in English dub at all since you've watched every episode in Japanese
I'm sure he has. Y else would he b saying Chloe instead of koharu or world coronation series instead of world championships, or even use ash's proper name as far as English speakers r concerned?
@@eljordinio7647 Your argumentation is flawed. All those Dub Name Changes got even to the JPN only watchers. (Perhaps watched the Hype episodes, but I doubt it's all of them.)
@@DomiDsLP the fact is he followed the dub like most people do and thus uses whatever names the dub has.
I watched the first 12 episodes in english dub, the rest in sub.
My favorite dub original theme is Paul's battle theme, it's one of the reasons I actually mostly prefer the DP dub to the original
I really enjoyed this 👍👍👍❤
The Tentacruel episode wasn't planned to debut in 2001, it was first broadcast in the United States on October 1st, 1998. They just stopped showing it on TV after 9/11.
2001 is so far ahead in the anime that the US had just started Johto League Champions in August of 2001.
Honestly I love the 4K dubs as they were so great, there are hilarious one liners and I overall love them
Yep
You know I prefer Sarah Natochenny over Veronica Taylor tbh, I didn't grew up with both cause I'm from India so voicing is different, but I feel like Sarah was better, but it's just my opinion
The original Japanese sub version is better than both non-canon 4Kids and TPCi version
5:06 and more people need to know this!
Nothing and I mean nothing ruffles my jimmies more than people saying Ash "promised" he'd come back for his Pigeot. It also makes me wonder why they want Pigeot back. It didn't do anything and Ash has other bird who do it's job better. What's the point.
@@narxmagee727 i know right.
@@narxmagee727 same here. Never understood the demand.
@@narxmagee727 it was more of a nostalgic factor that it was his first regional bird. But yeah, Swellow, Staraptor, and Talonflame did so much more then pidgeot.
Same thing with primeape
The surprising thing is, the the Tentacruel episode in the Original series was shown fully in here Finland, at least on TV.
Any subsequent DVD and VOD releases obviously are omitting that episode entirely.
FYI in the pokemon movie. Pokemon ranger and the temple of the sea. Team rocket was talking about treasures at the sea temple. They teased a lot about diamond and pearl. When Jessie and james talking about wanting the diamonds and pearls in the sea temple and meowth replies to them that they would have to wait for the next season to get it. And meowth also asked about playing the diamond and pearl game. 😂
The Ash in pain scene was so badly censored that TPCi didn’t even bother telling the other countries that use their dub that they censored that scene, hence why in some dubs Ash is still heard screaming in agony cause they use the Japanese footage first and then slap the English version over that.
Interesting...
@@maganhassan2627 Yeah I’m surprised they didn’t look into that while they were at it. Localization happens in more places then just the USA and Japan.
I didn’t realize how good the music was in the Japanese version
Very well done video
I remembered watching some of these removed episodes that had the English Dub. It was from a series of VHS that were released shortly after it originally aired. Some of it contained the Jynx episode in her original black skin, and the Tentacruel episode as I clearly remembered watching these episodes as a kid growing up.
I'm guessing shortly after the controversy, was when it would be later censored or removed.
One thing I'll comment about the English dub (at least the little bit I heard of it) is that the English scriptwriter changes it too easily. The problem is that they are thinking tactically on an episode-per-episode level and not suspecting that the Japanese original might have a strategy behind it that they might be ruining with the changes.
For example, the @4:10 segment, 4Kids decides to make the entire exchange not so much sassier, than nastier. You will never know in the original, Misty did not say that Caterpillar was disgusting, just begging Ash to return it to the ball. She's scared of it but she knows it's her subjective likes and dislikes rather than bugs being objectively disgusting. And rather than insulting Misty as disgusting, Ash merely expresses exasperation at the whims of girls. Even if I can agree 4Kids made it "more hilarious", it will be at the expense of their characterization, because it made Misty less self-aware and Ash just plain old meaner.
And I really "liked" how the translator failed to grasp the subtleties of XY's episode 7. In the English, when Fennekin taps Serena's leg, Serena reads it as Fennekin wanting to help Pikachu et al by attacking Team Rocket, and she just goes along with what Fennekin decided. In Japanese, Serena reads it as Fuoco prompting her to decide and she does, asking for Fuoco's assistance. There is a clear answer as to which one fits better with the themes of the Serena's story and Serena's characterization.
Personally, I prefer both versions. I take the English dub more preferably, but I only watch the sub if it’s my only option. On top of that, I know what to expect for the dub after I watch the sub
i always felt that in the first season ashes voice was deeper and 4 kids music was good during kanto except maybe themes which were good until advanced battle and also with the voice change pokemon being more for kid audience
Man that was a great video !
You know one thing ? I'd love to see you guys talk about the differences between the sub and dub openings for Pokemon, because GOD the japanese openings need to be talked about.
Fun fact: One of my favourite anime dinosaur king has vernoica taler voicing the main character, max.
HAHAHA bruh I just recently watched that show again, and whaddaya know, Veronica is there voice acting the main protagonist.
Made me glad that I started with Diamond and Pearl. Because of this I was already used to the new cast while I appreciated the old.
Same
8:40 . I recalled watching the tentocruel episode back when the series was syndicated back in 1998 though way before it moved to the Kids WB
Sinnoh hold's a special place in my heart as it was my favourite series in the show. I loved seeing Sarah grow into the role and by Sinnoh League Victors I feel she crushed it! I feel Battle Frontier and the Pokemon Ranger Movie was ROUGH, but after that it was great. So I agree the transition error was the BEST.
Since I'm watching through the XY dub for the first time, right now, I'm surprised to hear that many of the tracks were replaced in this show. I just may start watching the sub of XY to see if the original music can top it.
Imo one of the best selling points of kalos anime for me was it's soundtrack (except for battles). It made me feel all the intended emotions the anime wanted audience to feel.
So a soundtrack is gonna stop you from listening to great voices from xyz??🤨
@@dp6557 yes
Wow I’m a dub watcher for Pokémon and I never new there were this many differences between the English and Japanese versions.
As a sub watcher I really suggest you try some of the original Japanese, mostly for the music
@@yehoem I really want to now.
If there is one thing I also like about the dub is how they brought in voice actors in episodes after the 4kids Era that worked on other 4kids dubs like cilan being voiced by Jason griffith (pre 2010 Sonic) for example
How did I know during the x and y series you was gonna use the ash vs Alian fight lol for the music comparisons