Scatter - The End of Mattebox Filters?

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  • Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
  • In this video we talk about a fun new product. SCATTER, the digital mattebox filtration emulation for Resolve. Unlock lots of new potential with new workflow. We test back to back physical vs post filtration and give our thoughts.
    videovillage.com/scatter/
    0:00 Intro
    0:31 Examples
    1:08 Intro
    1:27 What is Diffusion?
    2:53 Scatter // Diffusion Options + Examples
    3:33 Challenges with Actual Filters on Set
    4:29 Scatter VS Actual Filters Comparison
    7:29 How Scatter Works
    8:58 Before and After
    9:40 Pros and Cons
    13:28 Outro
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  • @negkoray
    @negkoray 10 місяців тому +2

    Your shots are BEAUTIFUL!😍

  • @KaarloMedia
    @KaarloMedia 10 місяців тому +9

    Ok so if people don't want to spend 500 bucks on a relatively simple effect, let me lay out the foundation for you to test out in Resolve.
    This node setup can be pretty much anywhere in your flow, test and feel what suits you.
    - Insert a serial node
    - Insert a layer node on top of that
    - Set layer blend mode to Screen
    - Put gaussian blur into the layer node
    - The image now looks horrible, but don't worry
    - Dial down the layer node visibility to .3
    - Insert serial node after layer mixer, name it e.g. Contrast
    - On the Contrast node, set pivot to 1 and contrast to whatever you prefer
    - Play with the layered gaussian blur AND the layer node visibility for different strengths of diffusion filter effect (remember to adjust contrast node accordingly)
    EXTRA:
    - You can play with the curves on the gaussian blur layer node. Drop the curve down in the shadow region to restrict diffusion to highlights more.
    - You can stack this effect for more granular control.
    - For halation just use the Halation OFX
    - When you have achieved a nice effect, create a compound node of the three nodes we built here. This way you can control the strength of the entire effect with one node visibility adjustment.

    • @matthewbenjamincanada
      @matthewbenjamincanada 10 місяців тому

      🤘

    • @kanilautis796
      @kanilautis796 10 місяців тому +1

      If Scatter costs $500, you deserve at least $250 for this tip 😅 thanks!

    • @KaarloMedia
      @KaarloMedia 10 місяців тому +2

      @@kanilautis796 I'll settle for three fiddy.

    • @user-ll9ln1uu4b
      @user-ll9ln1uu4b 6 місяців тому

      Pffffhaha. It's not even near real thing.

    • @coin777
      @coin777 6 місяців тому

      do a video o this

  • @ghidorahscrown329
    @ghidorahscrown329 10 місяців тому +1

    This a really a really great Post tool and Great if you dont want to commit to a look or refine your look at a later point. Like you said not for everyone or everything but great new tool for many others

  • @VELVET462
    @VELVET462 8 місяців тому

    Hey i like that Light Tubes, how did you attach these? And Yes im in the beginning of "cinematic" Filming, atleast im trying, and my basket was full of Black Mists, Glimmers, ND, Smog Filters etc. im going with the Scatter VST instead ;)

  • @kneepayne
    @kneepayne 10 місяців тому +4

    $500 is cheaper than what I've spent to date on all my current mist filters. A plugin won't get damaged, lost, or even stolen (!) from a set. A plugin is not limited to filter thread or matte box size. There are still cases I will use a filter, but I'm certainly interested in adding this plugin and not buying another filter again.

  • @maxbridge8921
    @maxbridge8921 10 місяців тому

    Looks cool. Do you know if it's possible to use the plugin to create preview LUTs for working on set? I always find clients have little imagination when it comes to post and need to see close to the final look on set. Hence if you can create a preview LUT then that would be amazing.

    • @chrisniswonger
      @chrisniswonger 10 місяців тому +1

      This was what I was thinking as well.

    • @DavidGeldreich
      @DavidGeldreich 8 місяців тому +2

      Creating a LUT is possible when the effect does not use neighboring pixels to compute the resulting.
      Scatter is using spatial filtering, so you could not use LUT to « emulate » Scatter

  • @PALALALALALALA
    @PALALALALALALA 10 місяців тому +8

    Scatter needs to do a real time device for monitoring onset so clients and make up artist don't shoot the DP :)

  • @ArthurJanowsky
    @ArthurJanowsky 6 місяців тому

    Amazing tool, I have used it on Leila Jane - Poison (Official Video) to add nastalgic, vintage vibe to some scene. It realy does the job.

  • @Justin_Allen
    @Justin_Allen 10 місяців тому +6

    One big use for this, besides the obvious ones, is using it in virtual production, especially green screen virtual production. Being able to add a filter to your image in post is honestly a game changer.

    • @NorthwestCameraCo
      @NorthwestCameraCo  10 місяців тому +4

      This is soooo obvious it totally slipped my mind. This is a MASSIVE use case for this.

    • @Justin_Allen
      @Justin_Allen 10 місяців тому

      @@NorthwestCameraCo I am actually building out a green screen virtual production room right now using Unreal and Ultimatte 12 4K set-ups and everything has to be so clean for the key. Adding this in post really gives you so much more creative options, especially because you can control the talent and background separately.

  • @kanilautis796
    @kanilautis796 10 місяців тому +6

    Looks promising, but I would like to see a real world comparison between physical filters and Scatter. They don't offer trials or demos so you have to pay $100 just to test 🤯 $499 for a software that I'm sure is not 100% comparable with the physical filter's image reproduction is weird. In my opinion a single function plugin shouldn't cost more than $200 (lifetime license). P..S. DaVinci Resolve Studio 18 = $295, Scatter Plug-in = $499 😂🥲

    • @NorthwestCameraCo
      @NorthwestCameraCo  10 місяців тому

      im relatively sure they offer a monthly version also right? Cant remember.

    • @DJILLEE
      @DJILLEE 9 місяців тому +2

      @@NorthwestCameraCo No monthly. I also think it's weird that they don't offer a trial.

  • @JoshBenBernales
    @JoshBenBernales 10 місяців тому +4

    Pretty nifty, it seems like each "filter" from Scatter is a little weaker then the actual filter, a 1/4 looks more like a 1/8th. Obviously, you can adjust it to wherever you like which is cool.

    • @mrshaheedmalik
      @mrshaheedmalik 10 місяців тому

      Video Village needs to match them up. A Scatter 1/4 looks similar to a real 1/8.

    • @gregcotten
      @gregcotten 9 місяців тому +5

      Hi, developer/creator of Scatter (and Filmbox, etc.) here. The profiles are accurate - it's possible they didn't use the "Focal Length" slider in Scatter to correctly dial in the effect. The "Focal Length" parameter in Scatter is calibrated against a S35-sized sensor, so for cropped sensors you'd have to take that into account too.

    • @hautehussey
      @hautehussey 8 місяців тому

      @@gregcottensuper35 IS a cropped sensor, right? Did you mean to say it’s calibrated for a full 35mm sensor?

    • @hautehussey
      @hautehussey 8 місяців тому

      @@gregcottenps. Cool plug-ins, btw! Just dropped the money for both of them!

    • @hautehussey
      @hautehussey 8 місяців тому

      @@gregcottenare there any good solutions for applying these in photoshop to still images?

  • @jarrodbarker
    @jarrodbarker 9 місяців тому +3

    It would be nice if they continued to add filters with updates. For example, Tiffen just released Black Smoke Filters, which look so badass. I love my glimmerglass but I cannot justify ruining shots due to the highly prevalent double-image ghosting

    • @school1865
      @school1865 8 місяців тому

      I’ve been thinking about getting glimmerglass I’ve yet to read about this issue could you explain what double-image ghosting is or any links about it.

    • @hautehussey
      @hautehussey 8 місяців тому

      Does the scatter version of glimmerglass have the double ghosting?

    • @jarrodbarker
      @jarrodbarker 7 місяців тому

      @@hautehussey no there’s no ghosting on any of the scatter filter emulations

    • @jarrodbarker
      @jarrodbarker 7 місяців тому +1

      @@school1865 it’s like a lens flare in the shape of the bright object in your image. Like if it’s a lamp, it would be in the shape of a lamp, etc.

    • @school1865
      @school1865 7 місяців тому

      @@jarrodbarker thanks for this

  • @kcajay
    @kcajay 7 місяців тому

    Can we use On iPad Pro 😊😊

  • @szewendieu9553
    @szewendieu9553 10 місяців тому

    isn't there a glow effect in resolve?

    • @kanilautis796
      @kanilautis796 10 місяців тому

      It is, but it's quite limited. I'd love to see a similar built-in effect in the next version of Resolve 🤞

  • @AnotherCameraChannel
    @AnotherCameraChannel 10 місяців тому

    No coupon codes? so sad 😂
    I want to try it/buy it but I guess will have to wait to see if they have a sale!

    • @NorthwestCameraCo
      @NorthwestCameraCo  10 місяців тому +1

      I wish we had one for this!

    • @OliKember
      @OliKember 8 місяців тому +2

      Now's your moment! Black Friday. :)

  • @joaquimw2070
    @joaquimw2070 6 місяців тому

    I wish there was something similar for Lightroom

  • @Makta972
    @Makta972 10 місяців тому +6

    Interesting but WAY to expensive. 500$ !! really ?!

    • @NorthwestCameraCo
      @NorthwestCameraCo  10 місяців тому +14

      Infinitely cheap compared to buying actual filters and having all of them on set every shoot and in different sizes. The cost is actually one of the biggest pros of this plug-in.

    • @Snapertures
      @Snapertures 10 місяців тому +6

      I recently paid $500 for just one pro mist filter. The fact that I can basically get every diffusion filter for the price of one is a game changer

    • @MCplayer94
      @MCplayer94 10 місяців тому +4

      yeah, way to much for this... not even dehancer that affects the image in bigger ways costs this much lol...

    • @2kstyles
      @2kstyles 10 місяців тому

      @@MCplayer94 Yeah it's an incredible product but there are so many plugins for a fraction of the price that do so much more. I'd get this at $200

    • @Artfulscience1
      @Artfulscience1 Місяць тому

      If you buy full size matte box diffusion filters, this is absolutely worth it.

  • @michaelmannucci8585
    @michaelmannucci8585 6 місяців тому

    Yeah but they're crazy for $499 lol