Seversky P-35a - Wing Skin Fabricating - Part 1
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2019
- Here's Part 1 of a 2 Part FOF Mechanic's Corner Seversky P-35 update video, featuring Fantasy of Flight's sheet metal specialist Rick Reeves taking us through the process of restoring the P-35 wing, damaged in Hurricane Andrew. To help show all the steps in detail, we'll follow one particular wing skin through the whole process. Rick starts by pulling the old wing skin off the frame, and then goes through all the steps it takes to bring a new skin to life. Come on along.
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Attention to detail is amazing, Total craftsman
When you see a coffee maker on the snap on box you know it will be good, great work as usual from the FOF crew
I love the Mechanic's Corner videos!
I do fabrication and aircraft repair for the USCG in Elizabeth City, N.C.. I keep weights like this in our shop just for this purpose. Good video. I almost forgot, don't take my weights, I will find you. :-)
I usually skip to polishing after 400-600 like he mentioned that some people do. But having seen the end result it truly makes a difference. It's so much brighter when you go through the extra sanding like he does. But the problem I have is customers usually don't want to pay for the extra time it takes.
Very enjoyable watching the process.
Hi Kermit, I'm a sheet metal fabricator and I've done this kind of work on trailer skin replacement but I learned a lot from this video and Rick. It would be a true pleasure to work under Rick and learn his methods of sheet metal fabrication. I've done a little bit of aircraft fabrication in the past but nothing to this caliber. Thank you for sharing this with us. I love what you are doing.
It sure makes me appreciate the amount of labor that goes into a total restoration, not to mention the cost. it must be absolutely satisfying to see the plane fly when it is done after all that painstaking work.
When restoring aircraft to flight condition you have to have your restoration specialist have the understanding that their work will result in having a FAA approved safe flight aircraft because the pilot is putting their lives in the hands of the restoration specialist. Like others have posted it is great to see someone who obviously is not only knowledgeable but takes the time and pride to do the job right the first time. Mr. Weeks has assembled a top flight crew and it shows on these videos.
This guy is one hell of a sheet metal mechanic! Very meticulous in his work.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I'm a structures technician and I work on a lot of corporate aircraft doing sheetmetal and composite repairs. I love seeing this kind of work being done on these ol' birds. Thank you for keeping them in the air where they belong Mr. Weeks. Definitely looking forward to seeing more video's from ya. 👍👍
Attention to detail and workmanship is amazing. I most definitely do not have the attention span required for this type of work. Kudos to those who do!
Great to watch a craftsman at work. Beautiful attention to detail.
Rick really takes pride in His Work. It is so nice to see a real craftsman in His element. I really enjoyed this video.
“Pride” is like a 5 on a 1 to 10 scale. Rick is like an 10. Maybe an 11 which is mathematically impossible but those skins are just gorgeous.
@@Whitpusmc I have to give him a 9 sorry.... wet sanding on a slat table with no block... you could see finger marks on the skin the second he started, he could of saved himself a lot of time getting those out if everything was totally flat (the table and the sandpaper).
Stunning!
You have amazing and patient people working for you Mr. Weeks
Tremendous Video! It is so great that Kermit has the passion and wherewithal to preserve the treasures of aviation history and enables the master craftsmen on his team to fully utilize their rare, unique talents!
The old Swedish J 9 from F 9 wing airforce wing
We miss her but glad that Kermit & Co take care of her pretty good
Spent all my life avoiding any form of scratch or abrasion on wing or fuse skins. This is doing my head in! Then no corrosion prevention after...the insanity! I'm sure it's going to look fantastic
Rick is a Superman of sanding!
Absolutely fascinating, what a craftsman well done indeed.
It is really fascinating indeed, great to watch. Real impressive craftsmanship.
Hats off to Rick he is a really highly skilled master craftsman👍👍👍
A really big job.
Much respect for your craftsmanship.
A true master airframer. Very impressive craftsmanship. I did find it odd when he spoke about how meny cleco's he uses. I actually thought it wasn't that meny. When we would replace the fuselage skins on 737/757's we would use A LOT more! In the range of every other hole to every hole depending on where and which skin we were working. Also note the fact he's doing all this work right next to the wing structure. This helps in keeping the size in relation to the skin and structure even. We had a group replace a skin in the summer time, where the aircraft was in the hot hanger and they did all the skin hole transfers in the back shop that was air-conditioned. When they took the new skin out the aircraft everything was off by about an inch. As the new skin was a lot cooler than the fuselage. Even after warming up the skin to the structure temperature, the holes still didn't line up. They ended up scrapping the skin and starting over. ($$$)
Very nice and a lot of labor.
This brings back some memories of doing that very thing hundreds of time over a 42 year career. You can never have too many clecos.
I'm 68 and in my 50th year and still working at it. I agree with the clecos. (2 more years to go.)
Amazing crew of artisans at FOF. Thanks for posting these.
Awesome job, Rick. Thanks for sharing!
Hard to fathom just how much time and work goes into a restoration. Fascinating to watch!
Its good seeing you at work again Rick, I miss the old days back working at Tom Reillys.
Absolute labor of love, but will look stunning once its finished. Thankyou for showing the process used.
I like these videos. Shows one the difference between doing a real factory look restoration vs a show airplane with highly polished skins.
Incredible attention to detail. Where time equals money, it's easy to see why restoring and maintaining these amazing aircraft costs so much.
What a pains taking process. Patience is a virtue for this job, plus lots of elbow grease ... steady and careful. Great to see this. :)
Amazing craftsmanship that’s shown here! Thank you for sharing this. Can’t wait for part 2
What an artist
..Thank you for posting, very informative...this guy really seems to know his stuff! The narration dubbed over the video was a good touch also...kind of miss Paul, though...I'm used to seeing him on these Mechanic's Corner videos.....
Wow, lots of work. My back hurts just watching. Thanks for showing us how it's done.
Wow, just wow. I also know I’ll never have the patience to build/rebuild a polished aircraft! Beautiful work Rick, can’t wait to see part 2!
Wow......Such time involved and Rick is such a great chaftman with his work, the results are just amazing..........super job being done
Awesome job on making the skin. Looking forward to part 2.
Fantastic! Mr Weeks, it would be great to have this level of detail in all the videos.
Thank you Rick these are my favorites. Next time I am at the Hangar I will be doing a little more in-depth experimenting.
Fascinating. You could use a gofer to fasten the clecos behind you as you drill.
Very well done and explained superbly!! Such a tedious and EXACT process that shows in the end result!
Amazing. Thank you for preserving history!
Amazing craftsmanship!
Thank you Rick . Reminds me of my days as an Aircraft Technician .
It was great the first time, even nicer with the voice over added. What artistry for sure. Any time you all get bored and want to work on my projects I'll order up the pizza.
This is incredibly interesting to watch! Awesome!
Thank you for the voice over. very well do explanation of what is going on. I definitely enjoyed the sequence of steps of laying out the new panel for drilling new holes. I am studying to be A&P right now.
Beautiful shop!
Wonderful craft on show here.
This is fascinating. Also, it is far more labor intensive than I imagined. It also requires significant specialized knowledge.
I really really enjoyed this video!
Lot to learn in sheet metal from this, wow. glad I discovered this channel! Thanks for the video!
Wow..Amazing.. A true artist...creating a masterpiece. I really enjoyed watching this video.✌🏿
Watch this last week waiting for part two really interesting to see how it done thanks for posting
I thought this was a old video.
Relaxing video.
Wonderful! And yeah, reminds me of painting guitars.
Holy crap - that's a labor of love!!
I’m sure he is paid very well for that kind of craftsmanship
Any scratch normal to the thickness or sharp burr on the edge or in a hole may start a fatigue crack. All the deburring and sanding is very necessary. Very nice work.
Amazing, I wouldn't have the patience to do all that. No wonder this sort of work costs a fortune!
First time I hear about this plane. Will research a bit about it
Wow!
I use a heat source to soften the plastic before I pull it off it makes it a lot easier.
Have nothing but admiration for your work .anyone thats having heartburn with the value of a finished airplane with polished skin needs to watch this video,and anyone that thinks its no big deal would fold like a ladder trying to duplicate your work. ( SPENT 35 YEARS BUILDING WIND TUNNEL MODELS) I Might wanna throw a set of mikes on the alum. 0020 thickness is doing nothing but getting thinner .....Coming from a body and fender background I can sand thru .0010 paint in a heart beat. Was surprised at how thin the skin is on the original wing.Lighter is better .
Metals vs "stress & Strain"....my Dad used to build & maintain the machines that processed inguts of alloy aluminium into sheet rolls/stock{Davy-McKee Company/United kingdom}.
I watched Mr.Weeks presentation on. Vintage Aircraft Powerplant service..its temting to cross- rat even at 52..im a old n new school Navy SeaBee Construction mechanic- my Grandad n Step Grandad piolted the units at Bro Kermits rescue center... My Dad was a SeaBee Construction Electrician and mechanic- made me learn and skillset gained over decades still serves well.
The need to be meticulous is mind blowing. I assume there are temperature considerations to take into account when mounting the new skin of the airframe. Considerably hotter or colder and I would imagine the rivet holes don't line up well over that length of skin.
Wow, impressive work. That aluminum would be ultra smooth, maybe better than gelcoat of a glider!
I saw this a week ago. Why is it showing released just today? Waiting for part 2...
Not with the added voice-over, explaining in detail what is happening.
I’ve always been amazed by highly-polished aircraft, but this demonstration has given me a whole new appreciation for the process. And when you consider that the finished product can be damaged by mere fingerprints... yeah. Will you guys be applying any kind of a protective coating to these skins?
look at those Snap-on Stacks... daaaayyyum
Just out of curiosity, they would not have gone through this process when it was built would they? It would have been rushed out for service? Its beautiful!
It is amazing how painstaking this process is.
Fantastic video. I am scratchbuilding a Zenith 650 and learned some things from this video. What is the make of the deburring drill that was used? I would like to give that a try.
A few tips I will through out there that I use. When I need to remove the plastic film from a flat panel, I use a piece of dowel or pvc to roll up the film from the skin.
When I have lots of holes to drill and cleco, I have a "cleco pallet" that holds my clecos up so I do not have to set down my drill to get a cleco. If I need both hands for drilling, I can usually hang the cleco pliers off a cleco in the pallet ready to be used.
0.025..... Wow!
Woooooooowwww!!!
Man, I Love Every Video You Guys Put Out!!!!! What do you do with the old skins???? I would absolutely love to have a peice of skin like that, no matter how big or small! Im just a normal fella that will never be able to afford a plane period, but it would be nice to have a peice of history like that!!!!!
Now this is what skill is all about. The sanding discs you use, do they have a 'petaled' edge to reduce the possibility of a 'cut line' that could happen with circled edged disc?
I wonder if I could get Rick to give me some lessons in patience?
This man does beautiful work for sure. But I have to think why they would want to polish these old birds so much??? They are crazy about everything being authentic and original, but, they never left the factory looking like that. I know it's their choice and money, but seems like overkill to me. Before you all start growling, I am a aircraft structures and mechanic for over 30 years now and have done my share of polishing aluminum as well. That is just my opinion. Nice to see these old birds being preserved.
Done it a few times myself - I would use a block though. They make them out of rubber so you can take them right up to wet sanding. I know it will look great after polishing, but there are finger marks clearly visible as he goes. Might come out the same - as I said - after polishing, but it seems as if he's causing himself more work by using just his hand.
Do you guys Zinc-Chromate? Can you even use that stuff nowadays? Excellent Work!
A lot of patience skills, whenever I see the amount of rivets attached to planes I am full of respect for all the work thats gone into making all that possible. It is also fascinating when you see all the tools invented to serve different purposes. One question... why don´t you use a cork block or something similar and wrap the sanding paper around it to get a flat surface more easily?
Thank you for sharing again from Germany ;-)
I keep drawers of various materials, usually scraps from our machine shop for the purpose of making tools, rigs and jigs for various jobs. Some are disposable after one time use, and others I keep for repetitive jobs.
When I grow up, I want to be kermit
Excited to watch it again! Thanks!!
And I'm first
Deja'Vu - saw this video last week!
Not with the added voice-over, explaining in detail what is happening.
I was walking past a couple of guys that were popping rivets. From ten feet one hit me in the eye. I didn't have full vision back for 3 days.
6:04 is there a Buecker 181 Bestmann in the background?
Well I learned a bit.
A lot of work involved here. Do you do it exactly like this if the wing gets painted afterwards (like the Bf-108‘s wing will be), or do you skip some steps of the process? Is the back (inside) of the skin painted prior to polishing? Or after riveting in place? Thank you for this incredible video.
You can never have too many cleco’s!
3m Trizact 3000 to 5000... DA wetsand (will need full backer board to keep flat).. get some scrap and try it.. will cut some hours off the work.. nasty stuff aluminum is to polish cleanly.. Can still sit and watch someone else do this for hours.. such a joy when done.. Finished panel looks awesome..
I have never had to maintain a polished skin down the road.. Does the oxide protect it at all or just haze it up?
It looks like this has been reloaded.
That's wat I thought, pretty sure I've seen this already.
Kermit did not like the original. Said there needed to be a voice over. I and a lot of people thought it was just fine but He's the boss ! !
Ya ??? Just a week or two ago but I scrolled back my watched videos for two weeks and didn't find it. I'm sure I've seen it already. Maybe this was supposed to be part 2 ?
Really I had not noticed any real difference but it was such a good posting that I enjoyed it whichever way,the patience in producing those skin panels and the effort that goes into this kind of work is staggering,another great behind the scenes video record,Kermit you have some great skilled aviation artisans working on your airplanes.
Thank you for the upload we are grateful to you sir.
Not with the added voice-over, explaining in detail what is happening.
its a nice masterpiece the wing coming along. but still have to have hopes for the Collings Foundation for the loss of Nine 0 Nine couple weeks ago. if they can get a replacement masterpiece for the loss of the b-17 and 7 people.
These craftsmen are rare today not too many are around anymore like there were maybe 30 years ago.. unless this work is not passed on to keep these historic planes in circulation.will no longer exist
I wonder if the material is miked before and after to see how much is removed. Might be considerable.
I was going to question his polishing stage? He machine sands it down to 1000 grit. Then starts again with 600 grit wet and dry by hand? I don't see the point. He's taking twice the amount of material off for no real reason in my opinion? By the way, I'm a vehicle spray painter so I do a lot of polishing. If I colour sanded a panel like that I'd rub right through the primer. I also polish metal on my motorcycle projects
That 2024 T-3 is an alclad. I'm sure it's long gone now after all that sanding.
Were these beautiful aircraft polished to a mirror finish when new?
Allison Fort-- No. Just what is referred to as a "natural metal finish."