I can only imagine the amount of time and effort you must put into creating these videos. Thank you for sharing these detailed, thoughtful analyses multiple times a week. I look forward to them every time and you never disappoint!
The Bible is a contradictory mess. Sam Harris and the reason project found near 70,000 contradictions between the canonical Greek New Testament and the Masoretic Text version of the Torah. Do you think the Bible is supposed to be that way? I don't. So here's how to remove the contradictions: During the Babylonian captivity the "harlot of Babylon" syncretized God's biblical titles, those being El, Elah and Elohim, to all simply mean "God". So from 500-600bc to this day El still means God, which is cool, but Elah also just means God... and Elohim...yep, just means God. Anyone think that creates a lot of contradictions in the Bible? I sure do. The Church even made it heretical to call Yahweh Elohim from Genesis 2 the bad guy of the Old Testament. This spawned "apologetics" (for the Devil). They did this because the Septuagint just said Theos everywhere that El, Elah and Elohim should be. So, the Greeks thought Yahweh was introduced as "Theos" in Genesis 2. The Vulgate does the same thing it just says Deus in all the places El, Elah and Elohim should be. Also, the Latin people thought Yahweh was introduced as "Deus" in Genesis 2. Modern English Bibles still do this with removing God's titles. Most just say God and LORD God everywhere. Try using the NOG translation it's on Bible Gateway and also there's a free App on your phone. Remember to use a different language when you want info on God's titles. Hebrew is forever syncretized. The Latin counterparts are Deus "God", Dea "Goddess or feminine title of God" and Dei which has two uses one plural "gods" and one possessive "God's" based on context. Genesis 1 is the possessive context for Elohim. True Elohim. Genesis 2 is the plural context for Elohim. False Elohim.
I think back to how shockingly easy it was as a Christian to memory hole these things when I read these things and winced or went "Ow!", like "What is wrong with this?" But since everyone else at church seems to "get it" you don't dare to bring it up, reveal that you don't "get it." They tell you it's a loving god, so it was right to do these horrific things. So you disregard it, write it off, dismiss what the words mean. How what you believe can be so smooth and slippery that you simply don't READ what you read.
Well if you read this book as a Gentile then you read it while having the bias of an Israelite because these stories are written from the perspective of the Israelites.
The key takeaway in my opinion is that when you make that realization that "everyone else gets it", and you hesitantly decide not to say anything about it, at that exact moment you too look like someone who "gets it", even though you don't. So how many of the people you were looking at and taking cues from were only acting the part because of all the people THEY were looking at and taking cues from? It's entirely possible that if everyone at once spoke up about every Bible-related insecurity they had, 90% of the people in the community would ditch it on the spot. Or at least start looking REAL close at that book for the next few days. But when only one person at a time does it, they get shut down by that fervent 10% and anyone among the other 90 who are still taking cues.
As an Ashkenazi Jew, these kinds of things are actually what really made me want to separate myself from the religious Jewish community. I once had to walk out of a Yom Kippur service because the things the rabbi was saying were making me feel sick. Not that I think most modern Jews actually believe these things about the non-Jews around them, but there’s only two options: either they believe it and they’re horrible racists of the most extreme kind, or they’re total hypocrites. I don’t want to be associated with either. Also, I understand why you apologize for your tangents, but I just want to say that I really enjoy your passionate asides. You have a real talent for parsing these complicated texts and putting them in simple terms to cut through the BS and really put on display what exactly makes them so problematic. EDITED: to say “separate myself from the *religious* Jewish community”
No, most modern Jews don't. Most of us are secular, as I'm sure you know. I'm sorry this rabbi was such a dick, but you must know this is pretty rare and that even few Orthodox Jews don't interpret Torah literally. Hundreds of Jews were just butchered...and Jew hatred begins with anti Semitic tropes. I'm not saying Jews can't be assholes. But ex Christians imo shouldn't be making this sort of content. Given the Christian history of perpetrating these tropes. @MindShiftSkeptic how about a video on Christian antisemitism? Which you know, was where it all started.
@@kellebandea The rabbi wasn’t being a dick, he was talking about the theology of Yom Kippur. I’m not a self-hating Jew, but I identify with ex-Christians sometimes due to the disparity between what people say the religion is and what the religion actually is when you look deeply into it. It is especially difficult for Jews in this aspect since the religion is so inextricably tied to our ethnicity. But the Jewish religion is just as outdated and backward as Christianity, if not more so, and I respect MindShift for being willing to talk about it, albeit somewhat indirectly. Now, obviously Jews today are not raving supremacists who want to destroy everyone around them, and while antisemitism is still abundant, Christians are not inherently rabid antisemites. This is why I have no problems being close friends with religious people. I have not disowned my Jewish family or been disowned, I am a well-adjusted person who can separate the way people actually are from the way their stated religion says they should be. As Jews I think we need to be willing to have a hard look at religion that forms the backbone of our culture and community, secular or not, and decide if that’s really what we want defining us. I’m not sure I do. That said, what is happening in Israel right now is terrifying and it does make me scared for the future. And I do think a look into Christian antisemitism would be a great subject for a video. Although I want to say that it seems a little unfair to say that MindShift just reading what is written in the Bible and criticizing it is contributing to Christian antisemitism.
@@gregoryrosenberg106 I agree with you about religion. I disagree I'm being unfair. There is an incredibly flammatory situation right now, YT is full of Jew hatred, and it was a terrible time for this video. He may just be criticising the Bible...my point is he's still criticising it through a Christian lens of reading it in English, taking it literally and cherry picking. Which isn't the way religious Jews read their own scriptures, even the fundamentalists. And he's chosen a topic that easily shades into anti Semitic tropes RIGHT AFTER the worst Jewish massacre since the Holocaust. Any other time it wouldn't be worth commenting on, but right now? No. And the fact he will not even attempt to consider what I'm saying shows a callous disregard, imo.
@@gregoryrosenberg106 you may want to read down this comment thread, where MindShift agrees that the Jews have brought antisemitism on themselves. I'd say its now pretty clear he isn't just ignorant, he knows exactly what he's doing.
Even when I was a hardcore Christian, the way the Gentiles were often depicted in the Bible disturbed me. I remember thinking that they must’ve been bad through and through for god to have chosen another people over them. So bizarre how I justified that. It’s still troubling to me when I think of how many people rush to “protect” and defend Israel, as if to find grace with god by standing by his chosen people. I don’t say this to justify war against anyone; it’s just troubling to me that some are willing to murder (and defend murder) in the name of staying in good graces with a god. When I first understood the story of the woman of whom Jesus likened to a dog eating crumbs (I understand he wasn’t calling her a dog per sè), I thought it was harsh as fuck.
And you mean agreeing with Jesus that she was a dog. He called her it first. Just like how god breaks job all the way down to “despising himself” before he relents his tortures. Ridiculous! So glad you made it away from this stuff!
@@MindShift-Brandon _And you mean agreeing with Jesus that she was a dog. He called her it first. Just like how god breaks job all the way down to “despising himself” before he relents his tortures_ And no mention that Jesus gave her what she asked because of her faith. _Half a truth makes a whole lie._ And please study Job. It is quite widely known as Wisdom Literature, not history, and is unique in its breadth and scope and variety of literary forms --- poems, riddles, hymns, proverbs, laments, curses --- of all such that have come down to us. Good grief, Brandon, what you are talking about isn't Job at all but a parody of a fundamentalist ignorance. This is probably the most far-afield and least true comment of yours that I have seen. Saddening, really, given your puffing of your Christian past.
@@craigsmith1443you can't spin those scriptures in a positive light. jesus called her dog she agreed with him and pointed out you still had to feed a dog. She was not rewarded for faith and was explicitly told the savior was not there to help her. Explain how this myth is feel good in any way
@@averyarp7901 _you can't spin those scriptures in a positive light_ One does not have to 'spin' them. They are positive. Jesus went deliberately to Tyre, out of the Jewish territory, just as he went to Samaria, out of the Jewish territory, and spoke to women in both places, giving each what she asked for. Jesus did not call her a dog, and I note that you do not quote him doing so. Many Jews of the time would have done so; 'gentile dog' was a common term used by the less-than-compassionate in Israel (the Pharisees, say), so for Jesus to use it would have been to say no more than she had heard before. Yet Jesus did not use the same term. He didn't use κύων as we find in Psalm 59 (though there it's used of nonobservant Jews), he used the term κυνάρια, a pleasant pet-name for a pet dog. He is not calling her a dog at all, he's taking a term used commonly and pulling its teeth, a sign to her that he does *not* think of her as others might or have. In fact, he thinks of no one in Tyre that way. That's the reason he uses it as a general term. Both recognize something in the other: she sees in Jesus a 'son of David,' and he sees in her someone faithful and needy. The disciples tell him to give her what she wants and get rid of her, but Jesus stops to talk, as he does with everyone sincere, and then he helps. Ὦ γύναι μεγάλη σου ἡ πίστις (literally, 'O woman, great of you the faith.' σου is genitive, meaning 'your,' and the verb 'is' is regularly dropped in short constructions, so we would translate it, 'great is your faith.'). She *was* rewarded for her faith. Jesus helped as he always does those who are sincere, whoever they are.
Enjoy those slaves. If you find it hard to wrangle them in, just kill some animals to get gods attention and ask him to help your slaughter of their families go well first.
Wow; what a loaded lesson; i.e., what is a “Jew” and what is the history of the word?; are Jews and Israelites the same?. The anti Palestinian, Israeli government (I didn’t say, “Jews”) operates with the colossal gall of these scriptures. Well, they messed around, this weekend, and found out! Palestinian Brawl!! IJS Religionists almost always have their sticky little fingers in turmoil. Whether it’s a claim of being “chosen” or of “manifest destiny”, [religious based] genocide and oppression is WRONG.
@@20july1944 I am an agnostic atheist, Ashkenazi Jew. From the time I was 4 or 5 I never believed in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus or rooting for the home team.
@@MindShift-Brandon the jews are gentiles. Remember they are from Seth the brother of japheth and ham who are the gentiles. So you know. That like me saying I like Sudanese but not Africans because Sudanese are Africans.
The spanish colonists murdered, raped and imprisoned the Tongva/Kizh people in Southern California in the late 1700's, when they came to build the San Gabriel mission. All in the name of Christianity!!!! Disgusting!!!!!! Such a vile religion!!!!!
It's early here, so I initially misread the title as "Genitals: Made Them Just To Hate Them." lol. Sadly, that kind of tracks with god as well. OK - off to actually watch the video now. 🙂
I saw a thing that upset me, a little girl hurt in the Gaza war and her father is shouting at her to praise god, he is not cuddling her or soothing her but screaming at her to praise God, all religions are the same thing in a different wrapper
Reading the Bible as a non believer is a romp through a nightmare hell scape of war and religious superstition. Reading the Bible objectively totally opened my eyes to understanding the narrative in those books are backwards thinking that is obsolete. I’m so glad I deconstructed.
Dear Brandon, I'm kinda considered a " easy target " in debating with religious people because i became a skeptic at a very early age so even with going to catholic school i just couldn't read the Bible without just words going through my head. Anyway what i do now when they hit me with biblical stuff i just give them your work and say talk to this guy and good luck. 😊. I admire your enthusiasm and dedication so much. Thank you.
@@deevine1818 thanks. I just can't get myself to read the entire book. I'm terrible at reading or even listening to any fiction. If it's legit I'm good with it. ✌️
Every time I talk to my mom on the phone she brings up Israel and the “End Times,” especially over the past couple of days. If you don’t have one already I’d love a video on Christian Zionism and eschatology. Again, especially in light of recent events which have brought out the capital-C-Crazy in evangelicals!
It really gets on my nerves when they talk like that. The war over there has been ongoing for many years. At the root of it is religion. So long as those people have animosity toward each other, it will never stop. This may sound cold, but, I could care less about the war. Each side has brought this on themselves because they refuse to learn anything and leave behind the reasons they fight in the first place. When they fight, both sides commit atrocities and neither side is innocent, so I stay out of it and don't choose a side because it's not my fight and I'm all the way across the sea, away from that mess.
This didn't feel like something relegated to a certain place and time, the middle east and thousands of years ago. This felt like what a lot of non-white people are experiencing today in the US. I grew up mostly in the South and in the IFB. If you replace Jews with white males, this sounds and feels way too close to home. This felt very modern to me.
From the day i started questioning why a loving god who created the whole world would single out a very minute population and rate them above every other nation i knew this biblical god was not for the entire world and perhaps a very partial god.
I’m a very progressive Earth-based Jew and as such, I’ll say that antisemitism is terrible, but so is its opposite. It’s for that reason that I’m very critical of Israel!
Hey, to Everyone Reading this, No Disrespect, but if He called me a Dog- Assuming that he's talking about My Loving, Happy, Beautiful Golden Retriever Boy Reagan, Or My Great Pyrenees Boxer Mix Girl BabyElla who is Brown with Black Tiger Stripes and White Paws, I'd take that as an Ultimate Compliment. Because Seriously, My Dogs 🐕 are more Popular than I am where I live. Because they are Full of Love and Happiness and make people Happy that see them. Please have a Great Day Everyone.
Two things impress in all of your videos, Brandon: • Your clear-eyed, plain-language discussion of Christianity and its storybook; and • Your commitment to pronouncing both of the “E”s in _every_ . 😊 Nice work - i hope you keep it up. 👍
Yeah. Just don’t ask him to pronounce Deuteronomy! 😆 (I think it’s cute!) I have trouble pronouncing the br sound. Like in broil and library, so I understand. ❤️
@@user-lolo14 😊 The first time i noticed it, i thought he’d done it for emphasis. But then he kept it up and i was like, “Nah, this is a man who _enunciates_ . 🏆”
I feel like in many ways, God sees all of us as Gentiles. I love reading books and the Book of Revelations is the one that lead me to being an Agnostic. God creates the world. From day 1, fails because his creatures disobey him (I thought he knew EVERYTHING)? He fails the world yet again, leading to the flooding of the world in Noah’s ark. That wasn’t enough, so he had to send his son, who is kinda him, kinda not him, to sacrifice himself, to himself, to close this problem down for good, but then told his “prophets” 2000 years ago that, he already has plans to wipe us all out from the face of existence in the end because he knows we are destined to continue to go down this path of disobedience, using the very free will he created. We’re all Gentiles, folks.
Premium content! When we take the Bible AT IT'S WORD, there is no mistaking who Yahweh was: a mythological tyrant. The Four Spiritual Laws begin with "God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life." That is absolutely unbiblical. Thanks again for your tenacious study, and your unrelenting proclamation of the truth.
@@craigsmith1443 The sheer numbers of people "God" "created" just so they could go to hell is my reasoning. "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters." (Rom. 8:29) Obviously, since he foreknew who he would save, he foreknows those he will condemn to hell. That is NOT a wonderful plan for anyone's life.
@@ReasonQuest _Obviously, since he foreknew who he would save, he foreknows those he will condemn to hell_ The Argument From Silence. This passage did not say that. Nor do you discuss the thoughts and writings of those through the centuries who have discussed this, showing that it is rather different from the meaning that you seem to want to believe. You apparently take a common view of a simplified Calvinism and present that as the authoritative conclusion of all the Bible. It is not. The word προορίζω used there is used either of ordinary peoples' deciding (Acts 4:28) or by Paul only of God for the Church, not of nonbelievers, so your inference is wrong. Sorry. It would be a lot less troublesome to just accept the Truth ('Your word is truth'). It's a wonderful plan for our life, which we only know when we live it.
@@craigsmith1443 what is less troublesome is not necessarily true. If I can’t take the Bible and as a layman, and read it for understanding, then God isn’t a very good communicator. I don’t read Greek. I can infer from silence. I can infer from what the Bible says (and what it doesn’t say) that God condones slavery. Easy. I can also infer what I said in my original statement. If God is omniscient, which I assume you believe is true, then he knows who is going to hell. Yet he created them anyway.
Thank you Brandon for the vid. As a gentile, it helps me to better understand the mindset behind the relentless endless bombing of children in Gaza. Especially so, after some biblical stories were invoked right from the outset.
That was great, Brandon. If I had parented the way God “The Father” I would have been considered an unfit parent. The fact that God claims credit for creating evil, set us up for failure, plays favorites and hides from us disqualifies him as “loving” in my book. So glad he is only a myth. Since the mid 1970s Sundays were my least favorite day of the week. You have definitely improved them! Need another grandmother? ❤️
Ha! So sweet. And your parenting point is excellent. It really is that simple at the end of the day. If we, these horrific and sinful creatures, can love our children better than all loving god, then that is very telling.
@@20july1944 Apostate? That is a made up word to describe someone who recognizes mythology when they see it. I consider myself a rational, truth seeking person who lives in reality. Who said I have a husband? I am an individual in my own right regardless of marital status. And yes, I have been on this earth long enough to have experienced most aspects of life. Hopefully, once you have experienced life and reached maturity you will learn it is wiser not to make presumptions about or judge those you don’t even know. Best of luck with that.
Interesting to note in the comments on many atheist sites how many believers deconverted because they sat down and really read the bible and were appalled by what they found. I know that was true in my case.
That's arguably one of the biggest horrors of all of this. It is clear just how much this has informed western history and its dealings across the globe. All from a book that purports to be the word of an all loving and powerful god.
I have to ask: what is your day job? Are you an atty? You could be. I am a retired litigator, and I take my hat off to you. You construct and deliver compelling arguments based on evidence and reason. I am hitting that "Subscribe" button now. Keep it up.
These Sunday shows are becoming progressively richer. I would love your channel even if you only did the Thursday SBS - but I’m finding great value in all your posts - appreciating the care and work you put into each one.
I just wanted to thank you for these videos, I grew up a Jehovah’s Witness and left when I was about 18, 13 years ago. I knew I was brainwashed from the start, but didn’t realize how much more deprogramming my mind needed until I saw your videos, and this is really helping me a lot, I really appreciate your calmness and levelheadedness.
Most of your videos resonate with me because they address the same issues I have with the Bible and Christianity. But THIS one is a "new" angle for me to consider. For some reason this aspect of it never occured to me, but you are CORRECT- this is the only way we can LOGICALLY look at this issue.
The canaanite woman story bothered me so much when i was a christian...i just could not get around it. I used to bring it up in bible study so often...and it was like i had thrown a rock at the others...but there was no lack of believers willing to "explain" the verse to me.....unsatisfactorily in my opinion.
Perfect. You have outlined my thoughts beautifully. Did Jesus forget to tell us all about Saul's imminent different ideas? Does Saul outrank Jesus and god? By what right should we take Saul's word? This has always stood out like a sore thumb for me. My conclusion has long been that Saul created a brand new religion, with a "new" covenant and a pantheon of gods. Gone are The Mosaic Laws and Monotheism. Instead Christians pick and choose which Laws they follow and have created a Holy Trinity that makes no sense. And to rub salt in the wound Christians will proudly declare that "The Bible Never Changes".
Speaking as a Christian, don't give Paul equal weight to Jesus's words: Paul himself made the obvious point that he saw through a cloudy glass. Focus on what Jesus said and you'll get a somewhat different take.
@@tomsenior7405 Paul is a great evangelist but that doesn't make him infallible in his teaching. I think the problem is that Paul was trying to get his fellow Jews to get off the idea of works righteousness BUT is misconstrued to say that the moral law has become unimportant and it clearly remains valid.
@@20july1944 You may well be correct. And I respect you for holding to such an idea. One can see why "misconstrued" would replace the imperative of Circumcision to a new member of the faith. No matter how you slice it, many Laws have become ignored, while others are still being used to justify hate. I would think twice before calling them "Moral". But you do you. If that is what your denomination teaches, I have no desire fight. We lived through The Troubles. Believe as you will and live in peace.
Great video as always! When I was a child/preteen, I began doing extensive Bible study by myself, and this realization that yahweh was god only over the Jews, was something hard for me to reconcile. I always felt like the religion was never really for us (meaning non-Jews). It always felt as if we were trying to force ourselves into a club that we were not invited. I used to voice my concerns about that with my mom, but to no avail she just chalked it up as me not understanding context. I was so young yet I had this nagging feeling in the back of my mind that the old testament conflicted with the new testament so badly that I really had to have cognitive dissonance to not really see that Paul’s writings was nothing more than just a gentile who wanted to feel included and special with the chosen people. And I would be lying to say that at one point I did feel jealous because the old testament really made it clear that the Jews were the only chosen people for Yahweh so I always felt well, Where did that leave us regular people? I felt like god was a narcissistic parent that has multiple children but has only one favorite or a golden child while the rest are scapegoats he treats badly. Thank you for articulating something that was always in the back of my mind but once I started to deconstruct, I kind of just forgot all about this. I would love to see Christians trying to make sense of all of that but I already know it’s going to always go down to “This is gods inspired word and he can change his mind on things etc. etc. or it’s all out of context” lol. Thanks again for your work.
Exactly! Jesus just feels like a forced deus ex machina of sorts to fix everything, made by people who wished they were also jews (not that i believe in jewish stuff)
Very perceptive comments about Paul, who is surprisingly forthright about his intentions with the gentiles. Romans 11:13-14 shows his endeavor is a cynical one, and that he is only an "apostle to gentiles" to the extent it benefits Israel, and any benefits to the gentiles are collateral. He also expects money from the gentiles in return (Romans 15:27).
As a teenager who recently came to the realization that i was trans, id like to thank you for your channel as it vocalizes the thoughts id unconciously buried from myself, and for letting me realize how ingrained my superstition is :)
Hey, you matter! I really wish you the best in life and that you can achieve every goal you have ever wanted or set for yourself; that you may also find people that love you and care for you for who you are... much love, friend
You're not "trans". You have gender dysphoria. The only reason you think you are "trans" is because of evil people surrounding you, who are pushing a narrative counter to all verifiable science. The ONLY reason this trans crap took off, is because (and you can fact check this) Pfizer, merck and Bayer literally OWN your representatives, because you do not do your patriotic duty, at fkn all. So THEY dictate that those on their PAYROLL tell you that the ONLY help available, is to perform a 400k dollar surgery, as opposed to therapy, which is infinitely more effective, ethical, and science based. I will not pander to delusion. Your predator "friends" will.
According to many scholars, it was a later alteration of the text by Ezra, following the Babylonian captivity. It's not found in the Samaritan pentetuch or Greek Septuagint, I was just dumbfounded to learn this.
So funny Brandon, I was thinking about this very issue this morning and then I get on the web while eating my breakfast and here you are putting it all together! Keep it up brother, you are doing such a fantastic job of exposing the absurdities of it all.
I just came from a video on how Yahweh, a then-Warrior-Storm God of the people of the southern near-east, might have first been recorded by the Egyptians who went up against *raiding semi-nomads,* so God's violent promises to the Israelites suddenly make a lot more sense. History shaped the belief's of the time, so if raiding-peoples believed that God was on their side, of course they have stories about their favorite god promising them favor above all others. It's even more fascinating to consider that, over time, Yahweh was partially syncratized and then utter supplanted another storm god, Ba'al, and was further sycratized with an ACTUAL creator deity, the wise and grandfatherly El. It's very similar to the Roman-assisted sycratism and mythic drift of Artemis/Diana and Hades/Pluto, both of whom absorbed domains that were never theirs over time. Diana gained status as a Triple Goddess like the Cthonic Magic goddess Hekate and both Diana and Artemis gaining dominion over the moon when they didn't start off with those traits (Greek mythology even had the Moon Goddess Selene). Hades gained an association with wealth through his sycratism with Pluto, who was himself syncratized with the wealth god Plutus. These traits, in turn, mess with how future generations viewed, worshiped and told stories about their gods. Yahweh was a Warrior-Storm God associated with the terrifying, flash flood-inducing storms of the southern near-east. When he was sycratized with and then later replaced the very similar Warrior-Storm God Ba'al, he gained an association with life-giving and death-conquering because Ba'al represented the life-giving storms of the norther coastal regions and had a legend were he fought and won against the Death God Mot. Finally, to increase his power and foothold in the region further, he was sycratized with a much wiser and more peaceful Creator God, El (his depiction was even changed, because Yahweh the Warrior-God was not an old man, but El was). This character progression can be somewhat tracked in the bible as well, even as Yahweh, now God, remains true to his old Warrior-Storm God origins. It's really fascinating to see the old stories and *know* the history behind the myth. The video I got the info about Yahweh from was "Who is Yahweh - How a Warrior-Storm God became the God of the Israelites and World Monotheism" by ESOTERICA btw. It was a fascinating watch.
I love how god says "Babylon, you shall be my rod agaonst Israel! For they have forsaken me and my commandments" Then later on "Babylon, you shall fall for you have become proud and arrogant after I used you as a rod of correction. You've torn down my temple as I said you would and scattered my people. I shall punish you for following my direction" Yeah... YHWH must be a hit at parties...
When I got to high school and started asking questions like, what about all the people here in the Americas before Europeans came. It was like they didn't even try with the answers they gave me.
This is so eye opening, my mom is a fundamentalist southern baptist and she believes in all those end of time/rapture prediction Facebook conspiracies that change every few years- she used to always be terrified that “america isn’t included in revelations” and assumed that meant the whole country would be wiped off the face of the earth by the time to the rapture comes. How much simpler it is to realize America isn’t in revelations because they didn’t know it existed when the Bible was written 😂😂
Here is another one amusingly we can post the whole chapter because the entire chapter is Anti-Gentile: Psalms 2 "1Why do the nations rage And the peoples meditate on a vain thing? 2The kings of the earth take their stand And the rulers take counsel together Against Yahweh and against His Anointed, saying, 3“Let us tear their fetters apart And cast away their cords from us!” 4¶He who sits in the heavens laughs, The Lord mocks them. 5Then He speaks to them in His anger And terrifies them in His fury, saying, 6“But as for Me, I have installed My King Upon Zion, My holy mountain.” 7¶“I will surely tell of the decree of Yahweh: He said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten You. 8‘Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth as Your possession. 9‘You shall break them with a rod of iron, You shall shatter them like a potter’s vessel.’ ” 10¶So now, O kings, show insight; Take warning, O judges of the earth. 11Serve Yahweh with fear And rejoice with trembling. 12 Kiss the Son, lest He become angry, and you perish in the way, For His wrath may soon be kindled. How blessed are all who take refuge in Him!" "Let us tear their fetters apart..." In short the Gentiles are according to this book in chains to his "anointed". And since they want to remove it the biblical God mocks them and of course goes full wrath, I mean what else is to expected? So here we have another wonderful display of his pro Gentile attitude. What you don't want to be slaves to my chosenites? How dare you! Seriously it is such an utterly disgusting and despicable book. Deuteronomy 10:17 "17For Yahweh your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the fearsome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe."" Another wonderful display of showing no partiality. And it becomes even more funny if we combine that with quotes from the NT. Romans 13:1-6 "1Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist have been appointed by God. 2Therefore whoever resists that authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. 3For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of that authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; 4for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword in vain, for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. 5Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of that wrath, but also because of conscience." Here according to these verses everything in authority has been appointed by him. So the Gentile kings would have been appointed too. In (4) they are even called his ministers. So he sets them up and they rebel against him and he goes full wrath. Seriously the God of that book is according to believers the Creator of ALL of existence and that is how he does things? From my point of view this book is a full fledged mockery against a potential Creator.
A couple of years back I heard some rabbi in Israel saying that the Jews would all have white slaves soon when the Messiah comes. It sounds a little discriminatory but maybe I'm just not willing to submit.
"SELLING the roadkill to the foreigner " and "Charge interests to the GENTILE but not your brother"....BOY is the Bible treading in heavy-ass Jewish stereotypes 😂. Great video as always Brandon. Btw, I was always wondering what kind of work it is that you do irl? Or can you as of yet afford only being a UA-camr?
Where else do you think these stereotypes came from? Stereotypes are often based on a kernel of truth. In this case, the Torah, Tanakh, and Talmud all say that Jews can financially rip off gentiles. This later evolved into the stereotype of the Usurious Banker and Shylock. Probably because there were Jewish Bankers following these passages.
The Bible was heavily used by Christians to justify their anti-Judaism since the beginning of the religion. It is actually the source of many stereotypes, not only for Jewish people.
I already said wow but I have to say again you sir are fantastic! Of course I am biased because you say what I have thought for so long. And I was a true Christian until I was about 45 now I have been free for 25 years
Ha, i’ll take it. It is so nice to find people who voice what you have always been thinking. I have that too and am so glad to be able to help others. Thanks for your comments!
I want to vomit all the stuff I just sat and ingested all those decades. And I'm saying that on Thanksgiving Sunday. My appetite for turkey has just vanished. (Canadian here). And I'm looked at the one who is lost and hopeless. I think over the years I have seen Christians embrace all that Jewish exclusive language as their own. So they don't see it as being Gentile and not "loved by God"... They take those words and make it their own exclusive language. Thank you. Another great awakening message.
Damn, that opens my eyes even more. It's so crazy the levels of deconstruction that are there. Even after I no longer believed I didn't see this anti Gentile attitude written into the Bible, but now I can't unsee it.
One of the greatest cover ups the church pulled was changing the meaning of gentile. Within the church today most uses of gentile are explained as "non believers" or otherwise non christians. They removed any racial/ethnic connotations to be inclusive to non jews, and thereby justify any bad actions against gentiles in the bible. Its easier to accept god or jesus ignoring someone when gentile means of a different faith rather than of a different race.
Wow in my 30 years of Christianity never have I heard anyone preach about the Canannite woman of faith. It is clear to me now why that is the case. I am seriously blown away by all that I am learning from you and other guys like you. Seriously looking forward to the second part of this Gentiles series.
You should have had more exposure to non American sources. This passage is somewhat famous. It's just like there are two Christianities: the American one and the other.
It's fascinating and disturbing, to see that christians care more about them and their country, than they do about their own country and their own children.
I've been thinking about this for a while, and I think that a lot of this is a result of humans being a social species that's bad at being a social species. The actual reason that religion exists is to create a sort of social fabric between individuals. Ethnic religions are the most extreme variant of this since their primary strategy for social cohesion is to mark everyone else as an outsider. This is also probably why Judaism has so many odd and seemingly random dietary restrictions. If you can't eat with anyone outside of your specific group, then you're significantly less likely to socialize with, and thus, humanize them.
I have been saying this for awhile. I have a Jewish friend who was raised as a secular Jew and became an Orthodox Jew as an adult. He used to be a first-rate party host to a diverse group of friends. Not anymore. It is especially instructive to look at modern cults as well. They use a variety of strategies to make it untenable for their initiates to co-exist in two worlds. A specific example comes from the very recent 8 passengers story where Ruby Franke's sister cut off access to her children because Ruby's children were using cult language and continuously trying to convert their young cousins.
My grandparents left Los Angeles in the late 40s or maybe earily 50s to get away from "things" and my mom didn't find out she was a Jew until she was an adult. My grandfather told her she was "an American" and that was that. So, I'm a Jew by birthright, but that's about it (well, half my genes are semitic, from my mom). I think this is why, sadly, the Jews have been picked on, gastigated, harrassed, and in some times, genocided and marginalized and blah, blah, blah......I used to think, when I was a Christian, "Oh, yeah, the Jews are always under attack because Satan!" But that's not it. If you don't assimilate into a culture, you stay an outsider. It happens in other groups as well, but I think the Jews that practice orthox Judiasm take it to an extreme. I had a friend in highschool that wouldn't eat a cheeseburger (mother's milk and boiling a kid) BUT he'd still eat a hamburger (at a place that wasn't, obviously, kosher) so we could be friends as we could do the same things, go out to the same places. But, if he's been more hardcore, it's not that I wouldn't be his friend, per se, but I'd never had the opportunity to do so. This insider/outsider crap is gonna end really fast when the killer robots arrive.
@@michaelsbeverly There's a really interesting book that touches on antisemitism (mostly European antisemitism) called "Black Rednecks, White Liberals", and the author hypothesizes that a lot of European antisemitism is actually the result of Jews becoming "middleman minorities" (which means that they mostly existed within financial industries like banking) because the Catholic Church started to see most forms of money lending as usury. (Which is obviously a no-no in Christianity.)
Well, usury to non-israelites was a practice in the bible, so those few that still follow this give the rest of their kind a bad name. And, unfortunately, even today, there still exist a certain amount of those groups in banking today. I have a relative via marriage that is from a jewish family. She mentioned that jews are very "clannish" (I suppose tribal would be another fitting word), even against other jewish families and groups. I don't blanket all jews under the same criticisms because this relative has been generous and helped me out a few times when I needed it. She's also a messianic jew (a jew who believes in Jesus). The only reason that her family never set shiva for her is that her clan elder viewed her as his favorite niece. When looking up the ceremony, it generally says a period of mourning for a deceased loved one. However, it won't say anything about it being used for exiling clan members whom, after the event will be considered "dead" to them. This usually happens for certain things such as unapproved marriages with gentiles, and other things. While she did break a few rules, it seems that amongst her particular clan, their familial bong is stronger than their rules.@@stephenmymomtoldmenottoput1459
Not too long ago I visited a group of Native American burial mounds that was built right about the time when Jebus was supposed to be walking the Earth and there is no indication that he ever came to first century CE Ohio.
19:29 this is actually disgusting, my former religion's interpretation is that the Canaanite women was one of the lost "jews" that's why jesus himself healed her daughter. I can't believe that this is the simplest explanation to his actions. I can't believe how much of mental gymnastics I have gone through to justify this particular event on the bible.
Thank you, you've covered so many of my thoughts and feelings about this God character and the Bible. I appreciate you and others on you tube who are doing the work. Thanks.
Getting into it with a person about Gentiles, and how Christians have used god's comments to the Jews ("I have a plan for you...). He mentions the grafting in of Gentiles. I just linked this video to him/her. Now, we see if that person has the guts to watch it.
All of your videos are such high quality, so packed with solid proofs, and you are so well spoken and how you explain it all. Thank you for doing all this I am binge watching every video you’ve made!
Will you please do an episode on the gnostics? I want to know what you think about those books. They give the story of Adam and Eve a different spin and give the God of the Bible as Yaldabaoth a different spin. Shoot look at The Thunder, Perfect Mind… that is to me the idea of an omniscient being something that is both true and false . I want to know what your thoughts are regarding all these texts. Nag Hammadi
That might be easier asked than done on your part because it’s a lot to look into. But you’re smart and if you can make time to delve into them and make an episode i for one would appreciate it.
Absolutely love the closing in this. I hate it when people say I have no or lesser meaning in life because I have no god. I argue I have more meaning because my lack of god. Life all means more now without a god.
Thanks for mentioning that topic. For me that was one of the most important topics which literally drove me away from that book. And also thank you to put in the story of Joseph because it demonstrates the sleazy nature how he "kind of" took over Egypt. All it needs is greedy people and especially a greedy ruler who stabs his own people in the back for treasures. A crisis is the only way to have an excuse to take possession away from people without violence. I think that there might be a chance that the ancient Israelites were actually the Hyksos. I haven't read that much about them yet but there are a few hints. They controlled Egypt and they were banished from Egypt (was it 2-3 times?). They had multi colored garments and please take note that this was something Joseph possessed too. Edit: Search for this video here: "Religious Jews are asked about the Talmud" There are some religious Jews who believe that they get Gentile slaves when their messiah comes, 2800 for each.
I was searching for the tractate that refers to gentiles as animals.. I like that one. And the other good stuff about us. But that’s another whole can of worms isn’t it.🥴
As someone with Jewish and evangelical Christian background, this is an excellent video. What is happening to innocent women and children in Gaza is directly related to this type of religious belief and justification for land theft and genocide. And I feel the same about all the Abrahamic religions. They’re truly sick. I keep having these conversations with Christians and more secular Jews in which they express sadness about Israel’s genocide and say, oh, it’s so against what god would want…sadly, it’s EXACTLY what this grotesque god would want and command. Cognitive dissonance at its finest. 🤮
You have to know the context of caaninites to god. They were always seen as lesser and in servitude like dogs because of Noah's curse. That explains his ignoring and distaste for the canaanites. Caaninites are still gentiles so I'm not trying to make a point against because this is still an example of how he treated gentiles and even said he was here for Israel. I thought I would put that out there how they are typically very racist towards caaninites. It makes sense in context and it makes you wonder how he would treat other gentiles.
As a person who grew up around several very "lore" invested people despite been from different denominations , i learned that several denominations have this fanfiction that this was to guarantee Jesus' purity all of it from genocides to remove the seed of satan (some say literal ) to niphilim blood, and that the jews roll expired along the old law when Jesus completed his character arc
I love the way you pick apart this Bible and this god. For decades I read these bible verses and never questioned it and just accepted this god of Israel and now people have the courage to challenge this garbage.
Man, when you said the thing about old testament being a completely separate religion that was twisted and contrived 😁 perfectly executed There's always that moment in your videos when, even if I'm barely paying attention and doing something in the meantime, you just draw me in with a smashing point. It's awesome! You're awesome!
Another excellent presentation. Once again thank you for your courage and insight based on facts. This is not only extremely helpful. It is also for me extremely therapeutic. Please continue.
Love your program. When I was growing up I lived in a heavy Jewish area. I do not hate them and have no hard feelings. But, they uses to call me not all just some would call me a G-d Damn Goy. I was treated and told I had no place in earth or here after. I was told we are animal or pet to the Jewish people. Very sad but true. There were others who did feel like that and were very good to me. I cannot forget those who has hatred towards me for being born a gentile.
Thank you for sharing your experience. As a Jewish woman this concerns me a lot, and I'm happy that thankfully most Jews aren't like that, even when they are religious. When I became interested in Christianity, and told Christians of my own negative experiences within Judaism, I was told that I am confirming for them that the Jews are no good. And their antisemitic reaction made me sad, because when an ex Christian talks about their negative experiences with the religion, most people don't tell them "I knew it, all Christians are no good". In reality, despite a few negative experiences, I can't speak highly enough of the Jews around me and their moral charachter, even the religious ones. If your comment was about negative experiences you had as a Jew living in a Christian community, some people would be sad and others won't really care. But a lot of people who read your comment will definitely use it as an excuse to be antisemitic, and that's just sick. Regardless, it's important to share our experiences even though some people will use them for evil, and I apologize on behalf of the Jews who treated you like a subhuman. I hope that they will realize the error of their ways!
Hey Brandon, one more time, loving your videos, i discovered your channel couple of weeks ago and it's been why i can call a blessing by my definiton, im learning things everyday, and because i don't think this is the absolute truth every day, i feel like like i can have an honest opinion about what this texts say.
This is crazy considering everything going on right now. Would love to hear your thoughts on how all of this is related to Palestine and also the Christian zionists here in America.
As a former Mormon this video is particularly interesting, because native Americans play a big part in their theology. I don't know if you're familiar with the Book of Mormon, but it's essentially supposed to be the Bible but in the Americas. Same God. The problem is, same people. The Book of Mormon makes a central claim that the Native Americans are the descendants (at least partially) of Jews who migrated here from across the sea in Biblical times. Therefore, they are part of God's people group and are deserving of his notice and preference. The Book of Mormon is not an attempt to be inclusive of Native Americans. It is an attempt to redefine them as Jews, who then can be included in God's plan.
Love your videos! I wish I didn't have to wait a week for sbs episodes lol. It bothers me that you always make "every" have 3 syllables, even when you're not emphasizing it 😂. Great, great channel though.
Being an Chinese raised in a Christian family in South East Asia had always make me feel dissociated from the society I lived in. My nation majority religion is Islam, the Chinese live here either believe in traditional Chinese religion, Taoism or Buddhism, Indian are mostly Hindus, I always wonder if Christianity were delivered by a Jewish god to his people, why the hell does it has to do with me? I never feel him or experience him, the culture displayed in bible is foreign to me and very strange and illogical to my understanding. Yet just bcoz my family are Christians, I never get to choose which religion I have to believe. I am of scientifically trained, heavily weighted on material and logical proof in order to believe something I can neither sense or communicate. Too bad my father’s family were torn apart bcoz of this religion, it makes me think the world would be a much better place without religion.
Even when I was a Christian I had studied enough anthropology and ethnology to realize how ethnocentric Judaism and Christianity are. I always recognized the elitist attitude and how offensive that is to everyone else. Those religions are only relevant to very specific people. It wasn’t difficult for me to leave the manmade mythology behind and embrace all mankind. Hope you can do the same.
Love your work Brandon it makes so much sense, not arguable but people will 😅. Helping us to look at the origins from mythology. Showing us from the Bible itself, in context, that only one people group gets God’s,,both awful/kind, attention. Christians get to know the Bible it helps you see the exit from this cult. I finally read and studied and learned after an embarrassing 47 and a half years. It’s truly sad and shocking and a journey that you never truly wanted but isn’t it better to know truth and REALITY??? Thank you again Brandon 😊
I love Egyptian-Bible history study... The likely pharonic dynasty in the north of Egypt during Joseph's day were not Egyptian. They were a Semitic tribe called the Hyksos. Much easier to confuse who Joseph was when he grew up, and much easier to see how the rulers would be interested to have another Semite group come into the area. When the new dynasty arises, the pharaoh knew not Joseph and his deeds. And now had a potential fifth coloumn in Goshen, if the Hyksos should attempt to return.
Christianity is like a gun to your head.. I was done with it once I read that Jesus commands us to love him more than our family or go to hell basically.
Especially, as we don't see him, and have no evidence if he ever spoke what is written in the Bible. So we are supposed to love God (and Jesus) more than our family and loved ones, although we don't even have good evidence God exists in the first place, and manifests in our world in any detectable form (which means for us, it is similar to believe in sth that does not exist, and therefore does not manifest in our world in any detectable way)
I had a huge fight with my ex-Jesuit stepfather that we were all Samaritans with no real claim to what Jesus said, did or offered and of course he offered up Paul who I also brought up his wildly differing accounts of Jesus. All the Jews had to do was accept Jesus and we were out. I don’t remember how it ended other than he was yelling. I’ve always felt one has lost the logical argument once one moves to yelling, force or violence. Thanks for this video. Btw in the argument I probably meant Canaanites or gentiles in general.
What’s really interesting is that you’re doing what Sunday School teachers do at church to share what the Bible has to say about the god it depicts, the only difference being that you can simply read it at face value while Christians sometimes have to spin or “read between the lines.” It’s just becoming too clear to me to turn away from what’s becoming truer and truer in subjective view. Keep up the good work!
Excellent points in the video! Your survey through the Bible of anti-gentile sentiment really shows the evolution and tension between the different authors. Earlier it seems Judaism was polytheistic or henotheistic believing each nation had a chief protector god to worship. Overtime, through all the different invasions and occupations. I think some tried to universalize their God and created revenge fantasies over their tormentors. I think the reason Paul attempted to convert Gentiles was because he mistakenly thought the end was near and he was trying to fulfill prophecy. I think the Great Commission was a later scribal addition. It does not fit the rest of Matthew’s gospel.
Hey everyone! Hope you each find this one interesting and useful.
I can only imagine the amount of time and effort you must put into creating these videos. Thank you for sharing these detailed, thoughtful analyses multiple times a week. I look forward to them every time and you never disappoint!
So very kind. It is my absolute pleasure
I've found them all to be interesting and useful. Thank you!
Many thanks!
The Bible is a contradictory mess.
Sam Harris and the reason project found near 70,000 contradictions between the canonical Greek New Testament and the Masoretic Text version of the Torah.
Do you think the Bible is supposed to be that way?
I don't. So here's how to remove the contradictions:
During the Babylonian captivity the "harlot of Babylon" syncretized God's biblical titles, those being El, Elah and Elohim, to all simply mean "God".
So from 500-600bc to this day El still means God, which is cool, but Elah also just means God... and Elohim...yep, just means God.
Anyone think that creates a lot of contradictions in the Bible? I sure do.
The Church even made it heretical to call Yahweh Elohim from Genesis 2 the bad guy of the Old Testament. This spawned "apologetics" (for the Devil).
They did this because the Septuagint just said Theos everywhere that El, Elah and Elohim should be. So, the Greeks thought Yahweh was introduced as "Theos" in Genesis 2.
The Vulgate does the same thing it just says Deus in all the places El, Elah and Elohim should be. Also, the Latin people thought Yahweh was introduced as "Deus" in Genesis 2.
Modern English Bibles still do this with removing God's titles. Most just say God and LORD God everywhere.
Try using the NOG translation it's on Bible Gateway and also there's a free App on your phone.
Remember to use a different language when you want info on God's titles. Hebrew is forever syncretized. The Latin counterparts are Deus "God", Dea "Goddess or feminine title of God" and Dei which has two uses one plural "gods" and one possessive "God's" based on context.
Genesis 1 is the possessive context for Elohim.
True Elohim.
Genesis 2 is the plural context for Elohim.
False Elohim.
I think back to how shockingly easy it was as a Christian to memory hole these things when I read these things and winced or went "Ow!", like "What is wrong with this?" But since everyone else at church seems to "get it" you don't dare to bring it up, reveal that you don't "get it." They tell you it's a loving god, so it was right to do these horrific things. So you disregard it, write it off, dismiss what the words mean. How what you believe can be so smooth and slippery that you simply don't READ what you read.
Well if you read this book as a Gentile then you read it while having the bias of an Israelite because these stories are written from the perspective of the Israelites.
So well stated. Its amazing so many of us do this for so long!
@@MindShift-Brandon self indoctrination is a powerful drug!
The key takeaway in my opinion is that when you make that realization that "everyone else gets it", and you hesitantly decide not to say anything about it, at that exact moment you too look like someone who "gets it", even though you don't. So how many of the people you were looking at and taking cues from were only acting the part because of all the people THEY were looking at and taking cues from?
It's entirely possible that if everyone at once spoke up about every Bible-related insecurity they had, 90% of the people in the community would ditch it on the spot. Or at least start looking REAL close at that book for the next few days.
But when only one person at a time does it, they get shut down by that fervent 10% and anyone among the other 90 who are still taking cues.
@@riluna3695there you go.
As an Ashkenazi Jew, these kinds of things are actually what really made me want to separate myself from the religious Jewish community. I once had to walk out of a Yom Kippur service because the things the rabbi was saying were making me feel sick. Not that I think most modern Jews actually believe these things about the non-Jews around them, but there’s only two options: either they believe it and they’re horrible racists of the most extreme kind, or they’re total hypocrites. I don’t want to be associated with either.
Also, I understand why you apologize for your tangents, but I just want to say that I really enjoy your passionate asides. You have a real talent for parsing these complicated texts and putting them in simple terms to cut through the BS and really put on display what exactly makes them so problematic.
EDITED: to say “separate myself from the *religious* Jewish community”
Thank for sharing from your pov! Really appreciate that perspective. Also thanks for the kind encouragement. Thats very good to hear.
No, most modern Jews don't. Most of us are secular, as I'm sure you know. I'm sorry this rabbi was such a dick, but you must know this is pretty rare and that even few Orthodox Jews don't interpret Torah literally. Hundreds of Jews were just butchered...and Jew hatred begins with anti Semitic tropes.
I'm not saying Jews can't be assholes. But ex Christians imo shouldn't be making this sort of content. Given the Christian history of perpetrating these tropes. @MindShiftSkeptic how about a video on Christian antisemitism? Which you know, was where it all started.
@@kellebandea The rabbi wasn’t being a dick, he was talking about the theology of Yom Kippur.
I’m not a self-hating Jew, but I identify with ex-Christians sometimes due to the disparity between what people say the religion is and what the religion actually is when you look deeply into it. It is especially difficult for Jews in this aspect since the religion is so inextricably tied to our ethnicity. But the Jewish religion is just as outdated and backward as Christianity, if not more so, and I respect MindShift for being willing to talk about it, albeit somewhat indirectly.
Now, obviously Jews today are not raving supremacists who want to destroy everyone around them, and while antisemitism is still abundant, Christians are not inherently rabid antisemites. This is why I have no problems being close friends with religious people. I have not disowned my Jewish family or been disowned, I am a well-adjusted person who can separate the way people actually are from the way their stated religion says they should be.
As Jews I think we need to be willing to have a hard look at religion that forms the backbone of our culture and community, secular or not, and decide if that’s really what we want defining us. I’m not sure I do.
That said, what is happening in Israel right now is terrifying and it does make me scared for the future. And I do think a look into Christian antisemitism would be a great subject for a video. Although I want to say that it seems a little unfair to say that MindShift just reading what is written in the Bible and criticizing it is contributing to Christian antisemitism.
@@gregoryrosenberg106 I agree with you about religion. I disagree I'm being unfair. There is an incredibly flammatory situation right now, YT is full of Jew hatred, and it was a terrible time for this video. He may just be criticising the Bible...my point is he's still criticising it through a Christian lens of reading it in English, taking it literally and cherry picking. Which isn't the way religious Jews read their own scriptures, even the fundamentalists. And he's chosen a topic that easily shades into anti Semitic tropes RIGHT AFTER the worst Jewish massacre since the Holocaust. Any other time it wouldn't be worth commenting on, but right now? No. And the fact he will not even attempt to consider what I'm saying shows a callous disregard, imo.
@@gregoryrosenberg106 you may want to read down this comment thread, where MindShift agrees that the Jews have brought antisemitism on themselves. I'd say its now pretty clear he isn't just ignorant, he knows exactly what he's doing.
Even when I was a hardcore Christian, the way the Gentiles were often depicted in the Bible disturbed me. I remember thinking that they must’ve been bad through and through for god to have chosen another people over them. So bizarre how I justified that.
It’s still troubling to me when I think of how many people rush to “protect” and defend Israel, as if to find grace with god by standing by his chosen people.
I don’t say this to justify war against anyone; it’s just troubling to me that some are willing to murder (and defend murder) in the name of staying in good graces with a god.
When I first understood the story of the woman of whom Jesus likened to a dog eating crumbs (I understand he wasn’t calling her a dog per sè), I thought it was harsh as fuck.
I agree wholeheartedly with your comment! Well said!
But remember how she slapped back? And he took it, maybe starting him on a road of introspection and a change of heart.
@Moon-Marie
Couldn’t agree more regarding Israel. It’s no wonder some of J’s over there are so fkd up imo.
@@Sunweaver593
Wasn’t Jesus supposed to be god, and sinless too? Why would ‘god’ be at all introspective over something he said or did!
Exactly!!!! That is the only reason why the United States coddles Israel!!!!!
Even when I was a child, I didn't like the verse where a woman called herself a dog to get God to help her. It took me deconstructing to realize why.
And you mean agreeing with Jesus that she was a dog. He called her it first. Just like how god breaks job all the way down to “despising himself” before he relents his tortures. Ridiculous! So glad you made it away from this stuff!
@@MindShift-Brandon _And you mean agreeing with Jesus that she was a dog. He called her it first. Just like how god breaks job all the way down to “despising himself” before he relents his tortures_
And no mention that Jesus gave her what she asked because of her faith. _Half a truth makes a whole lie._
And please study Job. It is quite widely known as Wisdom Literature, not history, and is unique in its breadth and scope and variety of literary forms --- poems, riddles, hymns, proverbs, laments, curses --- of all such that have come down to us.
Good grief, Brandon, what you are talking about isn't Job at all but a parody of a fundamentalist ignorance. This is probably the most far-afield and least true comment of yours that I have seen. Saddening, really, given your puffing of your Christian past.
@@craigsmith1443you can't spin those scriptures in a positive light. jesus called her dog she agreed with him and pointed out you still had to feed a dog. She was not rewarded for faith and was explicitly told the savior was not there to help her.
Explain how this myth is feel good in any way
@@averyarp7901 _you can't spin those scriptures in a positive light_
One does not have to 'spin' them. They are positive. Jesus went deliberately to Tyre, out of the Jewish territory, just as he went to Samaria, out of the Jewish territory, and spoke to women in both places, giving each what she asked for. Jesus did not call her a dog, and I note that you do not quote him doing so.
Many Jews of the time would have done so; 'gentile dog' was a common term used by the less-than-compassionate in Israel (the Pharisees, say), so for Jesus to use it would have been to say no more than she had heard before. Yet Jesus did not use the same term. He didn't use κύων as we find in Psalm 59 (though there it's used of nonobservant Jews), he used the term κυνάρια, a pleasant pet-name for a pet dog. He is not calling her a dog at all, he's taking a term used commonly and pulling its teeth, a sign to her that he does *not* think of her as others might or have. In fact, he thinks of no one in Tyre that way. That's the reason he uses it as a general term. Both recognize something in the other: she sees in Jesus a 'son of David,' and he sees in her someone faithful and needy. The disciples tell him to give her what she wants and get rid of her, but Jesus stops to talk, as he does with everyone sincere, and then he helps. Ὦ γύναι μεγάλη σου ἡ πίστις (literally, 'O woman, great of you the faith.' σου is genitive, meaning 'your,' and the verb 'is' is regularly dropped in short constructions, so we would translate it, 'great is your faith.'). She *was* rewarded for her faith.
Jesus helped as he always does those who are sincere, whoever they are.
I read a book with that mentioned in it, apparantly he was testing the disciples.
As an American Jew its nice to see I can buy my slaves from Canada or Mexico. God always thinks about his people.
Enjoy those slaves. If you find it hard to wrangle them in, just kill some animals to get gods attention and ask him to help your slaughter of their families go well first.
Wow; what a loaded lesson; i.e., what is a “Jew” and what is the history of the word?; are Jews and Israelites the same?. The anti Palestinian, Israeli government (I didn’t say, “Jews”) operates with the colossal gall of these scriptures. Well, they messed around, this weekend, and found out! Palestinian Brawl!! IJS Religionists almost always have their sticky little fingers in turmoil. Whether it’s a claim of being “chosen” or of “manifest destiny”, [religious based] genocide and oppression is WRONG.
I know I always wanted to sell my child into slavery, but my first and only child was a boy.
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Are you an atheist, Bill?
@@20july1944 I am an agnostic atheist, Ashkenazi Jew. From the time I was 4 or 5 I never believed in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus or rooting for the home team.
I’m so glad you mentioned Native Americans! Thinking about them is what started my deconstruction.
Same!!
@@MindShift-Brandon the jews are gentiles. Remember they are from Seth the brother of japheth and ham who are the gentiles. So you know. That like me saying I like Sudanese but not Africans because Sudanese are Africans.
The spanish colonists murdered, raped and imprisoned the Tongva/Kizh people in Southern California in the late 1700's, when they came to build the San Gabriel mission. All in the name of Christianity!!!! Disgusting!!!!!! Such a vile religion!!!!!
Same
And the Atlantic slave trade. Slaves for 400 years is insane, why would he allow that
It's early here, so I initially misread the title as "Genitals: Made Them Just To Hate Them." lol. Sadly, that kind of tracks with god as well. OK - off to actually watch the video now. 🙂
Ha! Considering how much this god hates foreskin, you are right also
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That’s hilarious! Also appropriate. 🤣
@@26beegee It's 26BG, the perky apostate grandmother. Do you think your perkiness will protect you when you die?
@@MindShift-Brandoni thought god loved foreskins and that’s why he collected them off of the men. So confusing lol
The more I deconstruct the less I believe god is love
100%!
I saw a thing that upset me, a little girl hurt in the Gaza war and her father is shouting at her to praise god, he is not cuddling her or soothing her but screaming at her to praise God, all religions are the same thing in a different wrapper
God in a nutshell: Make problems only you can solve, solve it, get all the praise. Stonks
nowonder the elite scum rule the world but most sucked there D and took there BS vacca.
Reading the Bible as a non believer is a romp through a nightmare hell scape of war and religious superstition. Reading the Bible objectively totally opened my eyes to understanding the narrative in those books are backwards thinking that is obsolete. I’m so glad I deconstructed.
It certainly isn't a comforting read. I never found that. I hated my daily Bible readings. Now I realise that it isn't historically correct.
Dear Brandon, I'm kinda considered a " easy target " in debating with religious people because i became a skeptic at a very early age so even with going to catholic school i just couldn't read the Bible without just words going through my head. Anyway what i do now when they hit me with biblical stuff i just give them your work and say talk to this guy and good luck. 😊. I admire your enthusiasm and dedication so much. Thank you.
Ha! That’s hilarious and very kind. Thank you for the encouragement!
Do you bring any relevant education to your opinion?
Markhaunert5029. Sorry I must delete my (earlier post) comments as I noticed another thread on a different topic that I must think about
@@deevine1818 thanks. I just can't get myself to read the entire book. I'm terrible at reading or even listening to any fiction. If it's legit I'm good with it. ✌️
MindShiftSkeptic. Sorry I must delete my posts as I noticed another thread on a different topic that I must think about.
Every time I talk to my mom on the phone she brings up Israel and the “End Times,” especially over the past couple of days. If you don’t have one already I’d love a video on Christian Zionism and eschatology. Again, especially in light of recent events which have brought out the capital-C-Crazy in evangelicals!
It really gets on my nerves when they talk like that. The war over there has been ongoing for many years. At the root of it is religion. So long as those people have animosity toward each other, it will never stop. This may sound cold, but, I could care less about the war. Each side has brought this on themselves because they refuse to learn anything and leave behind the reasons they fight in the first place. When they fight, both sides commit atrocities and neither side is innocent, so I stay out of it and don't choose a side because it's not my fight and I'm all the way across the sea, away from that mess.
Do more like this! It’s such a major and ignored fact. It’s not for us!
Indeed! Thanks for watching
This didn't feel like something relegated to a certain place and time, the middle east and thousands of years ago. This felt like what a lot of non-white people are experiencing today in the US.
I grew up mostly in the South and in the IFB. If you replace Jews with white males, this sounds and feels way too close to home. This felt very modern to me.
From the day i started questioning why a loving god who created the whole world would single out a very minute population and rate them above every other nation i knew this biblical god was not for the entire world and perhaps a very partial god.
If this didn't highlight the underlining problems with organized religion as a whole it would sound like a War God in a fiction
I read that Yahweh was a god of war. A war god.
I’m a very progressive Earth-based Jew and as such, I’ll say that antisemitism is terrible, but so is its opposite. It’s for that reason that I’m very critical of Israel!
Christian:
Jesus loves you.
Me:
Yeah, tell that to the lady he called a dog!
And Christians will justify that Jesus was just testing her faith
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What's astonishing is that she approached Jesus with Faith, & he compared her to a dog.
Hey, to Everyone Reading this, No Disrespect, but if He called me a Dog- Assuming that he's talking about My Loving, Happy, Beautiful Golden Retriever Boy Reagan, Or My Great Pyrenees Boxer Mix Girl BabyElla who is Brown with Black Tiger Stripes and White Paws, I'd take that as an Ultimate Compliment. Because Seriously, My Dogs 🐕 are more Popular than I am where I live. Because they are Full of Love and Happiness and make people Happy that see them. Please have a Great Day Everyone.
I think i understand why so many countries have kicked them out now
109 and counting.
It's even worse than 'just the Israelites'. It's only the Israelites descended from Jacob.
yes, agreed!
Two things impress in all of your videos, Brandon:
• Your clear-eyed, plain-language discussion of Christianity and its storybook; and
• Your commitment to pronouncing both of the “E”s in _every_ .
😊 Nice work - i hope you keep it up. 👍
Lol! Love this. Thank you much
Yeah. Just don’t ask him to pronounce Deuteronomy! 😆
(I think it’s cute!)
I have trouble pronouncing the br sound. Like in broil and library, so I understand. ❤️
I thought I was the only one who noticed the way he says it 😂😂
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😊 The first time i noticed it, i thought he’d done it for emphasis. But then he kept it up and i was like, “Nah, this is a man who _enunciates_ . 🏆”
@@cuzned1375 I used to think he always says "e-ver-y", but sometimes he just says "evry" for some reason. Oh well 😮😁
I feel like in many ways, God sees all of us as Gentiles. I love reading books and the Book of Revelations is the one that lead me to being an Agnostic. God creates the world. From day 1, fails because his creatures disobey him (I thought he knew EVERYTHING)? He fails the world yet again, leading to the flooding of the world in Noah’s ark. That wasn’t enough, so he had to send his son, who is kinda him, kinda not him, to sacrifice himself, to himself, to close this problem down for good, but then told his “prophets” 2000 years ago that, he already has plans to wipe us all out from the face of existence in the end because he knows we are destined to continue to go down this path of disobedience, using the very free will he created. We’re all Gentiles, folks.
No, Jesus isn't The Father -- making your comment idiotic.
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Good point
Premium content! When we take the Bible AT IT'S WORD, there is no mistaking who Yahweh was: a mythological tyrant. The Four Spiritual Laws begin with "God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life." That is absolutely unbiblical. Thanks again for your tenacious study, and your unrelenting proclamation of the truth.
Appreciate that!
_"God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life." That is absolutely unbiblical_
Example? Evidence? Reasoning?
@@craigsmith1443 The sheer numbers of people "God" "created" just so they could go to hell is my reasoning. "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters." (Rom. 8:29) Obviously, since he foreknew who he would save, he foreknows those he will condemn to hell. That is NOT a wonderful plan for anyone's life.
@@ReasonQuest _Obviously, since he foreknew who he would save, he foreknows those he will condemn to hell_
The Argument From Silence. This passage did not say that.
Nor do you discuss the thoughts and writings of those through the centuries who have discussed this, showing that it is rather different from the meaning that you seem to want to believe. You apparently take a common view of a simplified Calvinism and present that as the authoritative conclusion of all the Bible. It is not. The word προορίζω used there is used either of ordinary peoples' deciding (Acts 4:28) or by Paul only of God for the Church, not of nonbelievers, so your inference is wrong. Sorry.
It would be a lot less troublesome to just accept the Truth ('Your word is truth'). It's a wonderful plan for our life, which we only know when we live it.
@@craigsmith1443 what is less troublesome is not necessarily true. If I can’t take the Bible and as a layman, and read it for understanding, then God isn’t a very good communicator. I don’t read Greek. I can infer from silence. I can infer from what the Bible says (and what it doesn’t say) that God condones slavery. Easy. I can also infer what I said in my original statement. If God is omniscient, which I assume you believe is true, then he knows who is going to hell. Yet he created them anyway.
Thank you Brandon for the vid. As a gentile, it helps me to better understand the mindset behind the relentless endless bombing of children in Gaza. Especially so, after some biblical stories were invoked right from the outset.
That was great, Brandon. If I had parented the way God “The Father” I would have been considered an unfit parent. The fact that God claims credit for creating evil, set us up for failure, plays favorites and hides from us disqualifies him as “loving” in my book. So glad he is only a myth. Since the mid 1970s Sundays were my least favorite day of the week. You have definitely improved them! Need another grandmother? ❤️
Ha! So sweet. And your parenting point is excellent. It really is that simple at the end of the day. If we, these horrific and sinful creatures, can love our children better than all loving god, then that is very telling.
So your perkiness became apostasy as long ago as the mid-70s?
I wince for your husband.
@@20july1944 Apostate? That is a made up word to describe someone who recognizes mythology when they see it. I consider myself a rational, truth seeking person who lives in reality. Who said I have a husband? I am an individual in my own right regardless of marital status. And yes, I have been on this earth long enough to have experienced most aspects of life. Hopefully, once you have experienced life and reached maturity you will learn it is wiser not to make presumptions about or judge those you don’t even know. Best of luck with that.
@@26beegee👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥 ma’am if I could, I’d love your comments a million times!
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Interesting to note in the comments on many atheist sites how many believers deconverted because they sat down and really read the bible and were appalled by what they found. I know that was true in my case.
what if the bible itself was written by the evil ones so god would appear to be a sadistic PoS?
So the very same thing that was meant to save have chased some away 😢
Those verses are chilling. there lies the manual for all sorts of evil that has occurred in western history. Brilliant content.
Thank you for that and for watching
That's arguably one of the biggest horrors of all of this. It is clear just how much this has informed western history and its dealings across the globe. All from a book that purports to be the word of an all loving and powerful god.
I have to ask: what is your day job? Are you an atty? You could be.
I am a retired litigator, and I take my hat off to you. You construct and deliver compelling arguments based on evidence and reason.
I am hitting that "Subscribe" button now. Keep it up.
Ha! Thats a great compliment. Thank you. Just good ol Ad Tech for me. Thanks for joining the fam!
I agree… I’d hire him!
These Sunday shows are becoming progressively richer. I would love your channel even if you only did the Thursday SBS - but I’m finding great value in all your posts - appreciating the care and work you put into each one.
Thats very kind. Thank you!
I just wanted to thank you for these videos, I grew up a Jehovah’s Witness and left when I was about 18, 13 years ago. I knew I was brainwashed from the start, but didn’t realize how much more deprogramming my mind needed until I saw your videos, and this is really helping me a lot, I really appreciate your calmness and levelheadedness.
Appreciate that so much! Glad to hear it
Most of your videos resonate with me because they address the same issues I have with the Bible and Christianity. But THIS one is a "new" angle for me to consider. For some reason this aspect of it never occured to me, but you are CORRECT- this is the only way we can LOGICALLY look at this issue.
Glad to share something new! Thanks for watching it!
I've had problems with the Samaritan woman story for decades...especially calling her a dog. Oof.
The canaanite woman story bothered me so much when i was a christian...i just could not get around it. I used to bring it up in bible study so often...and it was like i had thrown a rock at the others...but there was no lack of believers willing to "explain" the verse to me.....unsatisfactorily in my opinion.
This! Its an indefensible verse. Not that people dont try. But having an “answer” to this isnt the same as having a good answer
What bothered you about it?
Did you hear the one where Jesus is being sarcastic to test her faith and he really didn’t mean it? Haha
@@marym9245 That's the standard Christian take, including mine.
@@20july1944I’m glad you have the secret knowledge of when Jesus was being sarcastic thousands of years ago based on writings 😂
This was mind-blowing. Thank you, Brandon. If you don't see it after listening to this video, then you don't WANT to see it!
Appreciate that!
Perfect. You have outlined my thoughts beautifully. Did Jesus forget to tell us all about Saul's imminent different ideas? Does Saul outrank Jesus and god? By what right should we take Saul's word? This has always stood out like a sore thumb for me. My conclusion has long been that Saul created a brand new religion, with a "new" covenant and a pantheon of gods. Gone are The Mosaic Laws and Monotheism. Instead Christians pick and choose which Laws they follow and have created a Holy Trinity that makes no sense.
And to rub salt in the wound Christians will proudly declare that "The Bible Never Changes".
Speaking as a Christian, don't give Paul equal weight to Jesus's words: Paul himself made the obvious point that he saw through a cloudy glass.
Focus on what Jesus said and you'll get a somewhat different take.
Wonderfully put!
@@20july1944 Don't tell me, tell the Catholics who canonised Saul and the Protestants who prefer Saul's religion.
@@tomsenior7405 Paul is a great evangelist but that doesn't make him infallible in his teaching.
I think the problem is that Paul was trying to get his fellow Jews to get off the idea of works righteousness BUT is misconstrued to say that the moral law has become unimportant and it clearly remains valid.
@@20july1944 You may well be correct. And I respect you for holding to such an idea. One can see why "misconstrued" would replace the imperative of Circumcision to a new member of the faith. No matter how you slice it, many Laws have become ignored, while others are still being used to justify hate. I would think twice before calling them "Moral". But you do you. If that is what your denomination teaches, I have no desire fight. We lived through The Troubles. Believe as you will and live in peace.
Great video as always! When I was a child/preteen, I began doing extensive Bible study by myself, and this realization that yahweh was god only over the Jews, was something hard for me to reconcile. I always felt like the religion was never really for us (meaning non-Jews). It always felt as if we were trying to force ourselves into a club that we were not invited. I used to voice my concerns about that with my mom, but to no avail she just chalked it up as me not understanding context. I was so young yet I had this nagging feeling in the back of my mind that the old testament conflicted with the new testament so badly that I really had to have cognitive dissonance to not really see that Paul’s writings was nothing more than just a gentile who wanted to feel included and special with the chosen people. And I would be lying to say that at one point I did feel jealous because the old testament really made it clear that the Jews were the only chosen people for Yahweh so I always felt well, Where did that leave us regular people? I felt like god was a narcissistic parent that has multiple children but has only one favorite or a golden child while the rest are scapegoats he treats badly. Thank you for articulating something that was always in the back of my mind but once I started to deconstruct, I kind of just forgot all about this. I would love to see Christians trying to make sense of all of that but I already know it’s going to always go down to “This is gods inspired word and he can change his mind on things etc. etc. or it’s all out of context” lol. Thanks again for your work.
Thank you for taking the time to share such a thoughtful comment!
Exactly! Jesus just feels like a forced deus ex machina of sorts to fix everything, made by people who wished they were also jews (not that i believe in jewish stuff)
Very perceptive comments about Paul, who is surprisingly forthright about his intentions with the gentiles. Romans 11:13-14 shows his endeavor is a cynical one, and that he is only an "apostle to gentiles" to the extent it benefits Israel, and any benefits to the gentiles are collateral. He also expects money from the gentiles in return (Romans 15:27).
Thanks for the added context!
As a teenager who recently came to the realization that i was trans, id like to thank you for your channel as it vocalizes the thoughts id unconciously buried from myself, and for letting me realize how ingrained my superstition is :)
Hey, you matter! I really wish you the best in life and that you can achieve every goal you have ever wanted or set for yourself; that you may also find people that love you and care for you for who you are... much love, friend
Got you! Thanks so much for the kind comment
You're not "trans". You have gender dysphoria. The only reason you think you are "trans" is because of evil people surrounding you, who are pushing a narrative counter to all verifiable science.
The ONLY reason this trans crap took off, is because (and you can fact check this) Pfizer, merck and Bayer literally OWN your representatives, because you do not do your patriotic duty, at fkn all.
So THEY dictate that those on their PAYROLL tell you that the ONLY help available, is to perform a 400k dollar surgery, as opposed to therapy, which is infinitely more effective, ethical, and science based. I will not pander to delusion. Your predator "friends" will.
I never understood the CHOSEN PEOPLE thing! All throughout the Bible, it is directly separates one group of people from the rest!
Yup! Major issue!
According to many scholars, it was a later alteration of the text by Ezra, following the Babylonian captivity. It's not found in the Samaritan pentetuch or Greek Septuagint, I was just dumbfounded to learn this.
Excellent episode. NOBODY has ever brought this up that I have seen across other atheist content. Very perceptive.
Appreciate that! Glad to help maybe bring some new concepts to this very crowded space!
Both Muslim and Christian like to play the presecution game. But are actually wolf in sheep clothing
Strange you missed out the other religion from that region.
Who did you purposely omit?
So funny Brandon, I was thinking about this very issue this morning and then I get on the web while eating my breakfast and here you are putting it all together! Keep it up brother, you are doing such a fantastic job of exposing the absurdities of it all.
Ha! Love when the stars line up. Thanks man!
@@MindShift-Brandon religious people: "thE deviL knoWs jaKe is a Threat to him so hE used BrandOn to derail Him" lolol
I just came from a video on how Yahweh, a then-Warrior-Storm God of the people of the southern near-east, might have first been recorded by the Egyptians who went up against *raiding semi-nomads,* so God's violent promises to the Israelites suddenly make a lot more sense. History shaped the belief's of the time, so if raiding-peoples believed that God was on their side, of course they have stories about their favorite god promising them favor above all others. It's even more fascinating to consider that, over time, Yahweh was partially syncratized and then utter supplanted another storm god, Ba'al, and was further sycratized with an ACTUAL creator deity, the wise and grandfatherly El. It's very similar to the Roman-assisted sycratism and mythic drift of Artemis/Diana and Hades/Pluto, both of whom absorbed domains that were never theirs over time. Diana gained status as a Triple Goddess like the Cthonic Magic goddess Hekate and both Diana and Artemis gaining dominion over the moon when they didn't start off with those traits (Greek mythology even had the Moon Goddess Selene). Hades gained an association with wealth through his sycratism with Pluto, who was himself syncratized with the wealth god Plutus. These traits, in turn, mess with how future generations viewed, worshiped and told stories about their gods.
Yahweh was a Warrior-Storm God associated with the terrifying, flash flood-inducing storms of the southern near-east. When he was sycratized with and then later replaced the very similar Warrior-Storm God Ba'al, he gained an association with life-giving and death-conquering because Ba'al represented the life-giving storms of the norther coastal regions and had a legend were he fought and won against the Death God Mot. Finally, to increase his power and foothold in the region further, he was sycratized with a much wiser and more peaceful Creator God, El (his depiction was even changed, because Yahweh the Warrior-God was not an old man, but El was). This character progression can be somewhat tracked in the bible as well, even as Yahweh, now God, remains true to his old Warrior-Storm God origins. It's really fascinating to see the old stories and *know* the history behind the myth.
The video I got the info about Yahweh from was "Who is Yahweh - How a Warrior-Storm God became the God of the Israelites and World Monotheism" by ESOTERICA btw. It was a fascinating watch.
I've always thought the choice of "Indentured servitude" was interesting. I think debt slave is more accurate.
Man....I loved this! Music to my ears 😅
This contextualises the genocide in Gaza!!
I'll never forget that moment when I cried out to my pastor -but I'm not Jewish!
I love how god says "Babylon, you shall be my rod agaonst Israel! For they have forsaken me and my commandments"
Then later on "Babylon, you shall fall for you have become proud and arrogant after I used you as a rod of correction. You've torn down my temple as I said you would and scattered my people. I shall punish you for following my direction"
Yeah... YHWH must be a hit at parties...
When I got to high school and started asking questions like, what about all the people here in the Americas before Europeans came. It was like they didn't even try with the answers they gave me.
This is so eye opening, my mom is a fundamentalist southern baptist and she believes in all those end of time/rapture prediction Facebook conspiracies that change every few years- she used to always be terrified that “america isn’t included in revelations” and assumed that meant the whole country would be wiped off the face of the earth by the time to the rapture comes. How much simpler it is to realize America isn’t in revelations because they didn’t know it existed when the Bible was written 😂😂
Lol. No doubt! Glad this was useful. Thanks for watching!
That's why Americans invented the false doctrine of rapture and separation of the Church from the world during the end of times.
Here is another one amusingly we can post the whole chapter because the entire chapter is Anti-Gentile:
Psalms 2
"1Why do the nations rage
And the peoples meditate on a vain thing?
2The kings of the earth take their stand
And the rulers take counsel together
Against Yahweh and against His Anointed, saying,
3“Let us tear their fetters apart
And cast away their cords from us!”
4¶He who sits in the heavens laughs,
The Lord mocks them.
5Then He speaks to them in His anger
And terrifies them in His fury, saying,
6“But as for Me, I have installed My King
Upon Zion, My holy mountain.”
7¶“I will surely tell of the decree of Yahweh:
He said to Me, ‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.
8‘Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance,
And the ends of the earth as Your possession.
9‘You shall break them with a rod of iron,
You shall shatter them like a potter’s vessel.’ ”
10¶So now, O kings, show insight;
Take warning, O judges of the earth.
11Serve Yahweh with fear
And rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest He become angry, and you perish in the way,
For His wrath may soon be kindled.
How blessed are all who take refuge in Him!"
"Let us tear their fetters apart..."
In short the Gentiles are according to this book in chains to his "anointed". And since they want to remove it the biblical God mocks them and of course goes full wrath, I mean what else is to expected? So here we have another wonderful display of his pro Gentile attitude. What you don't want to be slaves to my chosenites? How dare you!
Seriously it is such an utterly disgusting and despicable book.
Deuteronomy 10:17
"17For Yahweh your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the fearsome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.""
Another wonderful display of showing no partiality.
And it becomes even more funny if we combine that with quotes from the NT.
Romans 13:1-6
"1Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist have been appointed by God. 2Therefore whoever resists that authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. 3For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of that authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; 4for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword in vain, for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. 5Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of that wrath, but also because of conscience."
Here according to these verses everything in authority has been appointed by him. So the Gentile kings would have been appointed too. In (4) they are even called his ministers.
So he sets them up and they rebel against him and he goes full wrath.
Seriously the God of that book is according to believers the Creator of ALL of existence and that is how he does things?
From my point of view this book is a full fledged mockery against a potential Creator.
A couple of years back I heard some rabbi in Israel saying that the Jews would all have white slaves soon when the Messiah comes. It sounds a little discriminatory but maybe I'm just not willing to submit.
"SELLING the roadkill to the foreigner " and "Charge interests to the GENTILE but not your brother"....BOY is the Bible treading in heavy-ass Jewish stereotypes 😂. Great video as always Brandon.
Btw, I was always wondering what kind of work it is that you do irl? Or can you as of yet afford only being a UA-camr?
Where else do you think these stereotypes came from? Stereotypes are often based on a kernel of truth.
In this case, the Torah, Tanakh, and Talmud all say that Jews can financially rip off gentiles. This later evolved into the stereotype of the Usurious Banker and Shylock. Probably because there were Jewish Bankers following these passages.
The Bible was heavily used by Christians to justify their anti-Judaism since the beginning of the religion. It is actually the source of many stereotypes, not only for Jewish people.
Sunday School! Yay!!! Can't wait to begin this.
Thanks for being here!
So glad to hear you refer to Deuteronomy as Deut, I thought I was the only one 😅
Man, you always end your videos on just BANGER points that really sum up the videos main message.
Too kind! Thanks so much
I already said wow but I have to say again you sir are fantastic! Of course I am biased because you say what I have thought for so long. And I was a true Christian until I was about 45 now I have been free for 25 years
Ha, i’ll take it. It is so nice to find people who voice what you have always been thinking. I have that too and am so glad to be able to help others. Thanks for your comments!
Gods so far against slavery that he loops all the way around to being for slavery
Lol indeed!
I want to vomit all the stuff I just sat and ingested all those decades. And I'm saying that on Thanksgiving Sunday. My appetite for turkey has just vanished. (Canadian here). And I'm looked at the one who is lost and hopeless. I think over the years I have seen Christians embrace all that Jewish exclusive language as their own. So they don't see it as being Gentile and not "loved by God"... They take those words and make it their own exclusive language. Thank you. Another great awakening message.
Appreciate that!
Damn, that opens my eyes even more. It's so crazy the levels of deconstruction that are there. Even after I no longer believed I didn't see this anti Gentile attitude written into the Bible, but now I can't unsee it.
And SOMEHOW it baffles them why they're a religion and a group of people that are "persecuted".
One of the greatest cover ups the church pulled was changing the meaning of gentile. Within the church today most uses of gentile are explained as "non believers" or otherwise non christians. They removed any racial/ethnic connotations to be inclusive to non jews, and thereby justify any bad actions against gentiles in the bible. Its easier to accept god or jesus ignoring someone when gentile means of a different faith rather than of a different race.
Wow in my 30 years of Christianity never have I heard anyone preach about the Canannite woman of faith. It is clear to me now why that is the case. I am seriously blown away by all that I am learning from you and other guys like you. Seriously looking forward to the second part of this Gentiles series.
Glad to hear it. Thanks so much for watching
You should have had more exposure to non American sources. This passage is somewhat famous. It's just like there are two Christianities: the American one and the other.
It's fascinating and disturbing, to see that christians care more about them and their country, than they do about their own country and their own children.
Love your videos and great insights!!
Thank you very much!
I've been thinking about this for a while, and I think that a lot of this is a result of humans being a social species that's bad at being a social species. The actual reason that religion exists is to create a sort of social fabric between individuals. Ethnic religions are the most extreme variant of this since their primary strategy for social cohesion is to mark everyone else as an outsider. This is also probably why Judaism has so many odd and seemingly random dietary restrictions. If you can't eat with anyone outside of your specific group, then you're significantly less likely to socialize with, and thus, humanize them.
I have been saying this for awhile. I have a Jewish friend who was raised as a secular Jew and became an Orthodox Jew as an adult. He used to be a first-rate party host to a diverse group of friends. Not anymore.
It is especially instructive to look at modern cults as well. They use a variety of strategies to make it untenable for their initiates to co-exist in two worlds. A specific example comes from the very recent 8 passengers story where Ruby Franke's sister cut off access to her children because Ruby's children were using cult language and continuously trying to convert their young cousins.
SKY FAIRES were made up to CONTROL PEOPLE and STEAL THEIR MONEY.
My grandparents left Los Angeles in the late 40s or maybe earily 50s to get away from "things" and my mom didn't find out she was a Jew until she was an adult. My grandfather told her she was "an American" and that was that.
So, I'm a Jew by birthright, but that's about it (well, half my genes are semitic, from my mom).
I think this is why, sadly, the Jews have been picked on, gastigated, harrassed, and in some times, genocided and marginalized and blah, blah, blah......I used to think, when I was a Christian, "Oh, yeah, the Jews are always under attack because Satan!"
But that's not it. If you don't assimilate into a culture, you stay an outsider. It happens in other groups as well, but I think the Jews that practice orthox Judiasm take it to an extreme.
I had a friend in highschool that wouldn't eat a cheeseburger (mother's milk and boiling a kid) BUT he'd still eat a hamburger (at a place that wasn't, obviously, kosher) so we could be friends as we could do the same things, go out to the same places. But, if he's been more hardcore, it's not that I wouldn't be his friend, per se, but I'd never had the opportunity to do so.
This insider/outsider crap is gonna end really fast when the killer robots arrive.
@@michaelsbeverly There's a really interesting book that touches on antisemitism (mostly European antisemitism) called "Black Rednecks, White Liberals", and the author hypothesizes that a lot of European antisemitism is actually the result of Jews becoming "middleman minorities" (which means that they mostly existed within financial industries like banking) because the Catholic Church started to see most forms of money lending as usury. (Which is obviously a no-no in Christianity.)
Well, usury to non-israelites was a practice in the bible, so those few that still follow this give the rest of their kind a bad name. And, unfortunately, even today, there still exist a certain amount of those groups in banking today. I have a relative via marriage that is from a jewish family. She mentioned that jews are very "clannish" (I suppose tribal would be another fitting word), even against other jewish families and groups. I don't blanket all jews under the same criticisms because this relative has been generous and helped me out a few times when I needed it. She's also a messianic jew (a jew who believes in Jesus). The only reason that her family never set shiva for her is that her clan elder viewed her as his favorite niece. When looking up the ceremony, it generally says a period of mourning for a deceased loved one. However, it won't say anything about it being used for exiling clan members whom, after the event will be considered "dead" to them. This usually happens for certain things such as unapproved marriages with gentiles, and other things. While she did break a few rules, it seems that amongst her particular clan, their familial bong is stronger than their rules.@@stephenmymomtoldmenottoput1459
Not too long ago I visited a group of Native American burial mounds that was built right about the time when Jebus was supposed to be walking the Earth and there is no indication that he ever came to first century CE Ohio.
19:29 this is actually disgusting, my former religion's interpretation is that the Canaanite women was one of the lost "jews" that's why jesus himself healed her daughter. I can't believe that this is the simplest explanation to his actions. I can't believe how much of mental gymnastics I have gone through to justify this particular event on the bible.
Thank you, you've covered so many of my thoughts and feelings about this God character and the Bible. I appreciate you and others on you tube who are doing the work. Thanks.
Thats great to hear. Thanks so much for being here
Getting into it with a person about Gentiles, and how Christians have used god's comments to the Jews ("I have a plan for you...). He mentions the grafting in of Gentiles. I just linked this video to him/her. Now, we see if that person has the guts to watch it.
All of your videos are such high quality, so packed with solid proofs, and you are so well spoken and how you explain it all. Thank you for doing all this I am binge watching every video you’ve made!
Oh man, so kind and encouraging. Thank you for that!
Will you please do an episode on the gnostics? I want to know what you think about those books. They give the story of Adam and Eve a different spin and give the God of the Bible as Yaldabaoth a different spin. Shoot look at The Thunder, Perfect Mind… that is to me the idea of an omniscient being something that is both true and false . I want to know what your thoughts are regarding all these texts. Nag Hammadi
That might be easier asked than done on your part because it’s a lot to look into. But you’re smart and if you can make time to delve into them and make an episode i for one would appreciate it.
Absolutly will be doing so.
Yes! Including modern day versions of Marcionism such as Good God Ministries on UA-cam.
Life hack:
According to the "holy spirit", drawing lots, or straws is the best way for us to determine the "will of god".
Absolutely love the closing in this. I hate it when people say I have no or lesser meaning in life because I have no god. I argue I have more meaning because my lack of god. Life all means more now without a god.
100%! And thank you very much
Thanks for mentioning that topic. For me that was one of the most important topics which literally drove me away from that book.
And also thank you to put in the story of Joseph because it demonstrates the sleazy nature how he "kind of" took over Egypt. All it needs is greedy people and especially a greedy ruler who stabs his own people in the back for treasures.
A crisis is the only way to have an excuse to take possession away from people without violence.
I think that there might be a chance that the ancient Israelites were actually the Hyksos. I haven't read that much about them yet but there are a few hints.
They controlled Egypt and they were banished from Egypt (was it 2-3 times?). They had multi colored garments and please take note that this was something Joseph possessed too.
Edit: Search for this video here: "Religious Jews are asked about the Talmud"
There are some religious Jews who believe that they get Gentile slaves when their messiah comes, 2800 for each.
Thanks again for your help on this one!
@@MindShift-Brandon No problem. Again that was a topic which I found really disturbing and is even seldomly mentioned at all.
I was searching for the tractate that refers to gentiles as animals.. I like that one. And the other good stuff about us. But that’s another whole can of worms isn’t it.🥴
"A crisis is the only way to have an excuse to take possession away from people without violence" …and this is still happening today
So are you an atheist or just an anti-Christian, or what?
As someone with Jewish and evangelical Christian background, this is an excellent video. What is happening to innocent women and children in Gaza is directly related to this type of religious belief and justification for land theft and genocide. And I feel the same about all the Abrahamic religions. They’re truly sick.
I keep having these conversations with Christians and more secular Jews in which they express sadness about Israel’s genocide and say, oh, it’s so against what god would want…sadly, it’s EXACTLY what this grotesque god would want and command. Cognitive dissonance at its finest. 🤮
You have to know the context of caaninites to god. They were always seen as lesser and in servitude like dogs because of Noah's curse. That explains his ignoring and distaste for the canaanites. Caaninites are still gentiles so I'm not trying to make a point against because this is still an example of how he treated gentiles and even said he was here for Israel. I thought I would put that out there how they are typically very racist towards caaninites. It makes sense in context and it makes you wonder how he would treat other gentiles.
As a person who grew up around several very "lore" invested people despite been from different denominations , i learned that several denominations have this fanfiction that this was to guarantee Jesus' purity all of it from genocides to remove the seed of satan (some say literal ) to niphilim blood, and that the jews roll expired along the old law when Jesus completed his character arc
I love the way you pick apart this Bible and this god. For decades I read these bible verses and never questioned it and just accepted this god of Israel and now people have the courage to challenge this garbage.
Thank you. Yes i ate this all up for too many decades. Time to turn the ship around!
Wow, well said!👍
Thank you!
Man, when you said the thing about old testament being a completely separate religion that was twisted and contrived 😁 perfectly executed
There's always that moment in your videos when, even if I'm barely paying attention and doing something in the meantime, you just draw me in with a smashing point. It's awesome! You're awesome!
Ha, Thats wonderful. Thank you!
Another excellent presentation. Once again thank you for your courage and insight based on facts. This is not only extremely helpful. It is also for me extremely therapeutic. Please continue.
So glad. Thank you!
Love your program. When I was growing up I lived in a heavy Jewish area. I do not hate them and have no hard feelings. But, they uses to call me not all just some would call me a G-d Damn Goy. I was treated and told I had no place in earth or here after. I was told we are animal or pet to the Jewish people. Very sad but true. There were others who did feel like that and were very good to me.
I cannot forget those who has hatred towards me for being born a gentile.
Thank you for that and for sharing!
Thank you for sharing your experience. As a Jewish woman this concerns me a lot, and I'm happy that thankfully most Jews aren't like that, even when they are religious. When I became interested in Christianity, and told Christians of my own negative experiences within Judaism, I was told that I am confirming for them that the Jews are no good. And their antisemitic reaction made me sad, because when an ex Christian talks about their negative experiences with the religion, most people don't tell them "I knew it, all Christians are no good". In reality, despite a few negative experiences, I can't speak highly enough of the Jews around me and their moral charachter, even the religious ones. If your comment was about negative experiences you had as a Jew living in a Christian community, some people would be sad and others won't really care. But a lot of people who read your comment will definitely use it as an excuse to be antisemitic, and that's just sick. Regardless, it's important to share our experiences even though some people will use them for evil, and I apologize on behalf of the Jews who treated you like a subhuman. I hope that they will realize the error of their ways!
Hey Brandon, one more time, loving your videos, i discovered your channel couple of weeks ago and it's been why i can call a blessing by my definiton, im learning things everyday, and because i don't think this is the absolute truth every day, i feel like like i can have an honest opinion about what this texts say.
Thanks for sharing this with me. Music to my ears. Thank you!
This is crazy considering everything going on right now. Would love to hear your thoughts on how all of this is related to Palestine and also the Christian zionists here in America.
Why are you not refering to the Jews as well? The OT is more or less their Tanakh and that's were most of the not so nice stuff is written.
As a former Mormon this video is particularly interesting, because native Americans play a big part in their theology. I don't know if you're familiar with the Book of Mormon, but it's essentially supposed to be the Bible but in the Americas. Same God. The problem is, same people. The Book of Mormon makes a central claim that the Native Americans are the descendants (at least partially) of Jews who migrated here from across the sea in Biblical times. Therefore, they are part of God's people group and are deserving of his notice and preference.
The Book of Mormon is not an attempt to be inclusive of Native Americans. It is an attempt to redefine them as Jews, who then can be included in God's plan.
Where's part 2?
Love your videos! I wish I didn't have to wait a week for sbs episodes lol. It bothers me that you always make "every" have 3 syllables, even when you're not emphasizing it 😂. Great, great channel though.
Being an Chinese raised in a Christian family in South East Asia had always make me feel dissociated from the society I lived in. My nation majority religion is Islam, the Chinese live here either believe in traditional Chinese religion, Taoism or Buddhism, Indian are mostly Hindus, I always wonder if Christianity were delivered by a Jewish god to his people, why the hell does it has to do with me? I never feel him or experience him, the culture displayed in bible is foreign to me and very strange and illogical to my understanding. Yet just bcoz my family are Christians, I never get to choose which religion I have to believe. I am of scientifically trained, heavily weighted on material and logical proof in order to believe something I can neither sense or communicate. Too bad my father’s family were torn apart bcoz of this religion, it makes me think the world would be a much better place without religion.
Thank you for sharing this!
Even when I was a Christian I had studied enough anthropology and ethnology to realize how ethnocentric Judaism and Christianity are. I always recognized the elitist attitude and how offensive that is to everyone else. Those religions are only relevant to very specific people. It wasn’t difficult for me to leave the manmade mythology behind and embrace all mankind. Hope you can do the same.
Great video Brandon! Yes it’s super clear that believing god loves gentiles in the deepest and truest way is just trying to make ourselves feel good.
Exactamundo! Thanks man
Love your work Brandon it makes so much sense, not arguable but people will 😅.
Helping us to look at the origins from mythology. Showing us from the Bible itself, in context, that only one people group gets God’s,,both awful/kind, attention.
Christians get to know the Bible it helps you see the exit from this cult. I finally read and studied and learned after an embarrassing 47 and a half years.
It’s truly sad and shocking and a journey that you never truly wanted but isn’t it better to know truth and REALITY???
Thank you again Brandon 😊
Thank you so very much!
I love Egyptian-Bible history study...
The likely pharonic dynasty in the north of Egypt during Joseph's day were not Egyptian. They were a Semitic tribe called the Hyksos.
Much easier to confuse who Joseph was when he grew up, and much easier to see how the rulers would be interested to have another Semite group come into the area.
When the new dynasty arises, the pharaoh knew not Joseph and his deeds. And now had a potential fifth coloumn in Goshen, if the Hyksos should attempt to return.
Christianity is like a gun to your head.. I was done with it once I read that Jesus commands us to love him more than our family or go to hell basically.
Especially, as we don't see him, and have no evidence if he ever spoke what is written in the Bible. So we are supposed to love God (and Jesus) more than our family and loved ones, although we don't even have good evidence God exists in the first place, and manifests in our world in any detectable form (which means for us, it is similar to believe in sth that does not exist, and therefore does not manifest in our world in any detectable way)
I had a huge fight with my ex-Jesuit stepfather that we were all Samaritans with no real claim to what Jesus said, did or offered and of course he offered up Paul who I also brought up his wildly differing accounts of Jesus. All the Jews had to do was accept Jesus and we were out. I don’t remember how it ended other than he was yelling. I’ve always felt one has lost the logical argument once one moves to yelling, force or violence. Thanks for this video.
Btw in the argument I probably meant Canaanites or gentiles in general.
I hear all that! Thank you
What’s really interesting is that you’re doing what Sunday School teachers do at church to share what the Bible has to say about the god it depicts, the only difference being that you can simply read it at face value while Christians sometimes have to spin or “read between the lines.”
It’s just becoming too clear to me to turn away from what’s becoming truer and truer in subjective view. Keep up the good work!
Thanks fornthat! Yes these sunday school teachers have to essentially lie to children about who this god is
Another fantastic video! Thanks
Thanks!
Where is this mentioned part two ?
I know you hear it all the time but I’m telling you you’re great at what you do. You really have been a great asset to me so thank you.
Appreciate that. It is always encouraging to know what i am doing is actually helping!
You would make a great lawyer.
Ha. So my wife tells me. Thanks!
Yes, and surely an empathetic and fair one.
Good episode. Thank you Brandon!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching!
Excellent points in the video!
Your survey through the Bible of anti-gentile sentiment really shows the evolution and tension between the different authors. Earlier it seems Judaism was polytheistic or henotheistic believing each nation had a chief protector god to worship. Overtime, through all the different invasions and occupations. I think some tried to universalize their God and created revenge fantasies over their tormentors.
I think the reason Paul attempted to convert Gentiles was because he mistakenly thought the end was near and he was trying to fulfill prophecy.
I think the Great Commission was a later scribal addition. It does not fit the rest of Matthew’s gospel.
Thank you. Love your thoughts here.