Kevin Nash on IF The Rock makes wrestling cool again
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Rock definitely did something that helped people get more openly invested in wrestling that's for sure. I say this because like a week or two before WM40 I ran to pick up some stuff from the grocery store and had on this old Roman Reigns "Acknowledge Me" shirt on while standing in line this older guy notices it turns around and asks me who I think is going to win Cody Rhodes and Seth or Roman and Rock, we both where like no way Rock goes over against Cody (we where wrong) in the middle of our conversation younger guy joins in with his take and the guy ringing us up at the checkout counter starts engaging us in the conversation too.
That's something special right there, in all my years of watching wrestling (and missing some of those eras) never had I experienced something like that in a public space, you hear guys talking about NFL, NBA, UFC something like that but not wrestling MAYBE in the days where WCW and WWE where going back and fourth.
Whatever Rock and Triple H discussed behind closed doors went over well and I think it definitely elevated the modern wrestling era to greatest heights, let's just hope they don't drop the ball.
I feel like part of what made wrestling cool in earlier decades was simply that we didn't have social media and smart phones and you could really believe these guys were the characters they were portraying. Now they all have social media...you see behind the curtain so much there's no way to step back from it.
I think what made wrestling cool when I was a kid was the fact that I didn’t know it was fake as a three dollar bill soon as I found out it was all fake bull crap I stopped watching
....But still comment on podcasts about said fake wrestling
@@justmythoughts2786It's not fake it's fun, what difference does it make? You're either a fan or you ain't
Ffj@@justmythoughts2786
Wrestling is too exposed at this point due to social media. Most people knew it was scripted in the attitude era but the mystique was still there, it was still compelling to watch. It also helped that the wrestlers back then were way more charismatic than the current wrestlers and they actually got you invested in their characters.
Raw rating has dropped huge since Rock said he was leaving raw. Not surprising at all!!
He straight 🆙 made wrestling great again
Austin and Rock made it cool again over 25 years ago lol
Then it stopped being cool for a while.
@@agentchaos5572 The Monday night wars made it cool with the nwo and then with Austin and Rock
You wanna make wrestling cool again? Give us the attitude era or something similar where we had people bleeding and the acting was better and the storylines were better, its not just about being athletic anymore.
I think that's what the Netflix deal is for a little bit more freedom
Agreed brother! Austin 316 said I just kicked your a$$
@@ladySmokinTreezfourtwntythat’s exactly what the Netflix deal is for that’s y rock pointed out he was instrumental in that deal the pg era is finally gonna b dead and wrestling will be cool again👍
@@jerrymarshall5965 lol. I just said that laughing 🤣
Characters and storylines are the big one. Too many guys with no character just wrestling in meaningless matches at the minute
"Sports Entertainment" is just a subgenre of Pro Wrestling. Just like hardcore wrestling, technical wrestling, and lucha libre.
I’m watching the second Starrcade event on Peacock right now, and I’m amazed how much better it is than the current product. Things mattered and it was taken serious.
Is this a month old? Why they uploading this now?
The Rock is basically a corporation all by himself.
Cry
Hes not just a great wrestler Nash, hes the goat. Better than your mate Hogan and Austin.
Exactly think about it Hogan and Austin both had to be booked like superman they had to be looked at as invisible and propped up by Vince and the machine to keep their spot yet Rock was jobbing to people left and right in his prime putting mid card wrestlers over making everybody look strong and still rivaled Austin and later surpassed him in popularity because of his charisma and godlike presence he was so good and so young Austin had to politic and protect his spot because Rock was such a threat.
@@tyyrreekk9005 facts
And Rock is also better than his entire clique boyfriends hhh/hbk etc
@@tyyrreekk9005best comment Ive ever read & dont forget to add John superman Cena to that list.
well he got my more eyes on wrestlemania helped put it even more over the final boss mini run was great imo
It started with Roman turning heel and then was kicked into overdrive with Vince fucking off.
IS KEVIN NASH BITTER OR WHAT
He’s starting to sound like Bret & Ryback
If I had the last 5 years he’s had. I’d be too . He’s lost dozens of friends. Including his best friend . Then he lost his son who was still in his 20s I think . The world is a complete shit show. I’d be bitter too! He def looks like he’s aging faster. At this point , I don’t think he gives a shit . Sean is carrying the show . I don’t blame him though . He gets a pass as far as I’m concerned. He lost his only son.
I see everyone saying “bring the attitude era back”…I think the thing about the attitude era that people forget, as much as the segments and promos were amazing most nights, the matches suffered. You’d have an insane 15-20 minute promo/segment followed by a 2-4 minute match that ends in a no contest. And tbh that was on both sides. WCW constantly would have an rambling long Hollywood Hogan promo followed by Lex Luger vs Macho Man for 4 minutes ending in a DQ. I agree that more adult storylines need to be brought back and the pg era needs to officially be killed but for the most part how matches are booked currently can stay relatively the same
BY NASH BEING FROM DETROIT I WONDER IS HE GO BE AT THE FIRST GAME AND IF HE SEE EM BY THEM BOTH GOT THAT DETROIT ENERGY AND IS WELL KNOWN IS NASH GOING TO ATTEND.....THE ORIGINAL TEST WITH STYLE
"A list People from the Entertainment world go: This is pro-wrestling?...no this is the WWE" I swear Nash low key is one of the greatest philosophers of our time
Arent too many that match the charisma of The Rock. Nash is one of them. This was a pleasure to hear his take on it.
i think eddie guererro was the last wrestler that had great charisma. I don't know anyone that didn't like him.
It was bullet club that made wrestling cool. They had wrestling so hot Sofia Vigara showed up to PWG lol
6:31 Ayyyoooo Pause !!!
I'm so out of touch with wrestling, I didn't even realise it was just uncool again. When did that happen? 😅😂
Roman right now is about the same age Rock was when he faced Cena the second time at WM.
I think The Rock should of accepted Rollins match. And then WWE could of had them in the hook the whole night. And The Rock even come out but at the end the Bloodline just comeout and have Cody and have a bunch chaos and went home with it ended the Show.
Does kevin nash poops when he pees? I have a shiesty feeling
All I know that if Wrestling doesn't get better after WrestleMania 40, then me and my friends are done watching it.
It’s already boring with Cody as champ 🥱
Wrestling became cool again as soon as Sami Zayn got "Ucey"
I wouldn't say it's "cool" but WWE is making a ton of money so it doesn't really matter (pun intended).
Get rid of goofy Rhodes and cringey Rollins and the new day and that will help wwe be a bit cooler.
No its the rock being full of himself again,he just boosted ratings
Rock had to go heel because the people dont like him
The Rock did make wrestling cool, if it wasn't for him a lot of us wouldn't have cared, wrestling sucks now. There's no mega stars, wwe needed the Rock and that's a fact.
Kevin.......who do you think has the smelliest farts in all of the samoan dynasty
Definitely Solo
Owner of the UFL football organization.
Has his own energy drinks
His own liquor bottle
Half owner of TKO and Endeavor/WWE company.
Hollywood legendary movie Star
One of the greatest Draws in pro wrestling history during the Late 90's and early 2000's Attitude Era Golden Era Boom period.
Now he is part of the New WWE Golden Era and boom period for WWE today called (The Renaissance Cinema).. they are killing it right now and on 🔥 in all cylinders.
I still don't see how this era can hang with the great eras of the past.
@@BarbaPamino They are actually better storyline wise better then any of those eras.
@@user-gv6kp6pu1t who cares? This is prowrestling, not a Hemingway novel. Action movies have better story telling that they did in the 80s too, but they don't have any action stars. Hulk Hogan. Ric Flair. Dusty Rhodes. Randy Savage. Roddy Piper. Jake Roberts. Andre the Giant. Bobby Heenan. Road Warriors. Ultimate Warrior. Sting. Etc. At one point in there career these were all stars at a level where you didn't need a past star from a prior era of 25 years to come back and hog all the spotlight because none of the current guys can shine anywhere near as bright.
PS I'll take the Savage Hogan Mega Powers storyline over any of the stuff I've seen from Roman Seth and Cody. Savage and Hogan were two men that made the audience believe had an intense rage for eachother and faced off in a match that let the world of wrestling know who the greatest is. Cody just lost 1 2 3 to an old man the night before he won the title. That'd be like WM6 being a 2 night affair and Warrior losing to Bruno in a Tage match the night before and then going on to beat Hogan, like anyone would even want to see him face Hogan now.
Modern pro wrestling is for the leftover fans of the 80s and 90s who want to take their kids to a pro wrestling show. 80s and 90s pro wrestling was for kids and teens begging their parents to take them.
@@BarbaPamino I don't give a fuck...This Era is way more enjoyable, because The long term storylines, and The Bloodline have got me invested...it's the storylines that are bringing in the masses.
The Rock N Wrestling Era was too cartoonish for me. The Attitude Era was okay, since Iived it and was around then...I was 18 in 1999 so I know what went on, The Attitude Era was great for it's time but.
But this New Era is more serious, more believable, The storylines are just incredible...The women's division is better, women are being treated with respect nowadays, women are not be overly sexualized like objects....And I'm invested in the great storylines.... WWE has never had a long Term story like This Extraordinary BLOODLINE Faction, this storyline keeps getting better and better
I have never seen a storyline like this, hell No...this is the best storytelling ever!
I don't give two F**k what you think and how you make it, or how you want to turn it, right now they are killing it and breaking records and are on top of the world right now and They now have Causel fans invested again.
I can careless about other Eras because they ain't trying to be like those eras...we are living in NOW AND FUTURE, not living in the past because this a different time and people think differently now.
Now is the steaming and social media era to pro wrestling...right now WWE is killing it in all cylinders.
Wither you like it not !
@user-gv6kp6pu1t I'm 42 years old. I could care less about pro wrestling. I stopped being a fan when was 17. You want great storytelling? Go watch Godfather 2. You're a grown man. I watched Wrestlemania because I was invited to a watch along party. I was bored the entire time. The main even was an overbooked joke. You Hogan vs Savage was too cartoony? But 7 run ins with music playing and one with lights going out a wrestler appearing and disappearing? Waste of my evening.
Sean Oliver's a god..
There is only One God
have you watched smackdown/raw recently? i can't understand how people sit through these shows. Aew puts out better wrestling matches. The rock brings excitement, but everyone else around feels out of place.
Aew is the minor leagues. They over pay for washed up talent that Wwe created to try and stay relevant. They never had a Rock, Austin, Hogan, Undertaker and they never will.
@@miami444 Neither will wwe. All those greats u mentioned , they've done their time. Even the rock kinda feels out of place if he tries to come back and wrestle. He belongs with a roster of legends. That era is over. Wwe is not what it used to be. Todays superstarts just don't have that "it' factor.
But atleast aew are producing better singles matches. Though wrestling as a whole is no where near as good as it used to be.
@@RagingUtai even after that era you got cen orton brock, after that you got Roman reigns cody rhodes seth rollins cm punk. Now Logan Paul. My point is they have guys who have "it"
Thats why their #1 for 30 years. Except the year it was close when wcw over paid for top WWF guys.
@@miami444 aew is still new. And those guys u mentioned like cena, orton, they had their long run. Cena should retire at this point. No one else is on randy orton's level. Brock had his run. It was magic watching him since 2002, when he was a real beast in the ring. He grew up in the ruthless agression era. I doubt cm punk will wrestle anytime soon. Cody isok. Not a fan of seth, never really liked him since the start of shield. But I cannot sit through an entire epidose of either smackdown or raw. The quality is no where near what I grew up with. Honestly aew put out better wrestling matches.
@@RagingUtai you keep saying AEW puts out better matches. So lets say they do. Its not about who has the better matches its about who has the bigger stars. WWE makes stars. AEW buys old ones. Its wcw all over again.
Man you guys clip the f outta everything! Just show the legit clips of what the situation is? I honestly don't get it
The other guy is really hung up on rock "brings it". What does that even mean? He should shutup when nash is speaking. Give Kevin a topic and let him go, nobody gives a shit that the other guy thinks the rock "brings it".
Hogan vs andre drew 37,000,000 viewers.
Want wrestling to be cool? You can’t. It’s all rich kids and geeks that are the talent now. You can’t manufacture cool. Unfortunately it’s past it’s time now and probably on its way out. If that Netflix deal doesn’t do anything meaningful, it’s over.
The Rock can’t make his movies cool again, Black Adam lost over $100 million at the box officer. Jungle Cruise was around $200 Million
I could be wrong but I’ve read Black Adam ended up breaking even after all is said and done.
@@analiysanchez9949 It can’t break even, it’s known in the industry that you need to have x2.5 whatever the budget is. It lost $100 million or more. Dwayne Johnson was lying to make himself look “good” & not as bad.
Damn, The Rock sucks as an actor
I mean all my kids used to like wrestling when they were six, I used to like wrestling and watch it when I was eight and then when you find out, it’s fake as 💩 normal stop and start watching a real sport like NFL football or MLB or UFC so the can’t a sport that is strictly for kids yeah there’s some adults that still watch it and get their jollies off of buy a bunch of fake wrestlers, jumping around in a ring, but nobody believes this crap but kids little kids at that my 14-year-old won’t have nothing to do with watching that fake bull crap anymore
Did you say NFL was real?
100%.
If you stopped watching wrestling because you discovered it was fake you were never a fan to begin with & clearly don't understand the purpose behind pro wrestling, ive watched wrestling for 33 years i didn't care if it was real or fake it didn't stop me from watching, wrestling is real ppl are fake, & im a sports fan & ive seen some REAL boring games.
It's still real to me damnit!! 😢😤
Lol the NFL is as scripted as the WWE.
I like the rock but 55 year old guys aren’t going to make wrestling cool again. And need to change the e back to f.
So Who’s gonna do it? Dominic mysterio? Logan Paul? lol
Jury duty is boring and so is the boreline/Uce stuff
It had stopped being cool?
Kevin a paul guy he obviously gonna shit on rock sorry kev HHH was not The Rock
There are maineventors? Just compare 2004 and 2024. Roster of jobbers with no charisma and athletics.
I always thought the Rock was corny.
Bloodlines finally over,. WWE has NO storylines to use anymore so, they are LITERALLY trying to reuse the old Attitude era because they have absolutely no original ideas anymore.
Bringing people who left over a decade ago like John Cena, Undertaker, The Rock coming back, even briefly, is simply WWE trying to cash in on the parents and grandparents of the kids who own the wallets needed to pay for the tickets and merchandise who remembered the old Attitude Era.
ALL he did was just do the same schtick he'd always done, for years, like a well-planned routine.
I for one, did NOT care to see him back.
WWE has soo many talented people and they just keep releasing talent before it has a chance, but lets keep cashing in on the old has-beens who have been played out still.
The Toothless aggression era is NOT what WWE needs right now.
Bloodline story is not over they are doing a bloodline civil war for survivor series
@@MrJonnyl123 The hypocrisy is that they want to be PG era, but we saw lots of blood in this 'Bloodline' feud so far and its involving people like The Rock, Undertaker who, kids do not really know a whole lot about except what they can find online or through their family and friends who experienced it.
I'm from before attitude era even and i feel that era was best where it is and we need a change in mindset because it seems the WWE is regressing to old ways instead of moving forward after the last Vince machination was put to rest.
You say its not over yet? Then this crap will never stop.
I try, but man its hard to listen to these two and not try to find something else. They sounds slow and drugged up on something. Smh lol
Nash and his clique boyfriends hhh/hbk were all along jealous of the Rock’s success. Now Dwayne is their boss and on the board. lol karma