Bob. thank you for humbling yourself to allow Jeff to offer more than a review, but a testimony. This review is a lot more personal, and in my opinion, definitely more desired from a skier, as well as a consumer perspective. Jeff thank you for sharing your personal thoughts and experiences. Purely enjoyed it.👍
Another stellar review by SkiEssentials. Very entertaining to watch the interaction between Jeff & Bob. These guys keep it real and honest when it comes to ski assessment, comparison and application. 👍👏❤
Had 2 x high tibial osteotomies, 3 arthroscopies and an ACL reconstruction....retired the Mantras (epic ski tho) and pulled the trigger on a pair of Reckoners based on this review - awesome.
Awesome review. You ski so amazing Jeff, much respect! Lil' help, pls. 65 yrs., 6', 160 lbs., advanced, all CO, so lots of 2"-4" freshies, occasional 8-10" pow, some scrapey, some cord. Love my '16 Shreditor 102 177cm but they are getting wasted, need to replace, but what with? My typical day include black/blue groomers and bumps, trees, getting more into serious carving but not at the expense of all the other stuff, no park, slight switch and would do more if i learned how. Love how the Shreditor, floats, pivots, rotates instantly and easily at any speed. Am comfortable on the Shreditor at speed but we know it's a little twitchy/floppy but i handle that fine. I have a deep motocross background and am very comfortable sliding and steering with the rear wheel, so my skiing style reflects that (good or bad). Advice pls! 1) Is the Reckoner 102 yesterday's Shreditor 102? 2) Have demoed an Enforcer 104 Free - no way. Way too heavy, stiff, unresponsive. Wrong type for me. 3) Based on your reviews and my type of days, my short list seems to be Fischer 102 Ranger (love that aqua!!!), Blizzard Rustler 10, Elan Playmaker 100, Solomon QST 98, and the Reckoner 102. Want something that can do it all, like my Shreditor 102!, but not give up anything. Thanks in advance!
I still think the Shreditor was a bit stiffer than the Reckoner, but if playfulness is high on your list, then it's still a fantastic option. The Playmaker is right there with it in terms of being light and mobile. It drops off from there with the rest of the skis on your list, at least in terms of light weight and playfulness. I do think the QST 98 has a lot to offer from a directional perspective.
@@Sladep123 I have the 2023 reckoner 102 and QST 98. I love them both. The QST is more damp and seems like it can handle more speed and longer carves on the groomers. The reckoner is a lot of fun and I would say lower top speed but super fun to carve and to learn wheelies. I'm not that good of a skier (mostly blues and some blacks) They are both good multicondition skies but I am usually on my QSTs.
@surfmarko hi surfmarko, that's excellent feedback and just what I was hoping to hear. I love my Shreditor 102's for all they are capable of, which is a lot. I am stoked for all the reasons you mentioned to ride those QST 98's. It sounds like they are just what I was hoping they would be. Thanks!
Question for Jeff: in addition to getting forgiving park skis, curious if you have recommendations on how to continue park skiing in your mid-30s while reducing chances of injury. Do you recommend any protective equipment (eg back protectors)? Any other strategies you use? I’m hoping to still progress on rails but don’t want to kill myself. Thanks for the great content!
Probably obvious, but I find general fitness and strength is more and more important each year. I used to be able to just hurl my body through the air and bounce back if I didn't land. These days, in order to withstand falls in the park (which are inevitable), I spend a lot more time on general strengthening, including upper body just to be able to take impact. Protective equipment can work, but it's never worked great for me. I wore a back protector one season when I was still competing and I felt like the way it hindered my movement negated any safety benefits. I know some people that wear it, but I've also seen a lot of those people get hurt while wearing it. It's not a fail safe. Progressing on rails can be challenging, but it's very doable. My general advice is just focus on rails that you're super confident on, and that have low impact if you fall. Tubes are great and very forgiving in my experience (I coach a lot still). Then don't try to progress too fast. Be able to slide confidently to both forward and switch on command before you start trying to learn any tricks. I know so many people who want to start doing 270s out and stuff like that, but don't even feel comfortable just sliding a rail and coming off switch. Anyways, hope that helps!
@@SkiEssentials This is really helpful, thank you! Appreciate you taking the time. Anecdotally, I got the ARV 94s and the Norrona bibs after seeing your reviews and couldn't be happier. Thanks again!
Excellent review guys! I particularly enjoyed the more personal approaches. Jeff you mentioned that you skied the 184 before. Which are the pros and cons for the two different lengths? Do you find it significantly easier to spin on the 177s than the 184s? Thanks in advance and looking forward to your next videos!
The 177 is considerably easier to spin, but that's relative. Compared to other 102 mm twins, the 184 is still one of the easier park skis. I think if you're park-specific, the shorter one has more to offer, but any type of freeride potential, or all-mountain versatility, with this light build and flexible nature, I'd like the 184 to garner performance.
Do you think a reckoner 102 would pair well with any of the K2 Revolver boots? Thinking of getting a team model (120 flex) with an additional softer tongue to switch between.
Awesome review! Deciding between the 24’ and the 25’ side-by-side. At the sale price heading into the upcoming season, it’s hard to not to pick up last year’s 24’ model! Wondering if the difference in construction/durability or any other performance factors would make the $300+ difference in price worth it? Always up for paying more to get more, but if updates are minimal it seems the 24’ could be good value. Thanks for any help!
Absolutely AWESOME review! Thanks Jeff and Bob! Jeff always nails it, in terms of park, unfortunately i just bought in January current 102s with orange base, but i do like the change in rocker profile, to me looks pretty much exactly like shreditor 102 2016, which i had before reckoners. Do you think the ski is going to perform better true center mounted ? because i find team mark (-2 from true center) sometimes not good landing switch.
Even with the softer flex? I feel like this ski can go either way, but the flex of the new ski kind of makes the move to true center slightly unnecessary.
the Bent feels more substantial and stable. Even with the new shape and more tail rocker, it's still more of a directional ski vs. true freestyle like this Reckoner. If park isn't a top priority, I'd stick to the Bent.
They may be on the wide side, but other than width, it's a very flexible and accessible ski for all-mountain and park. You could go a bit narrower to the Reckoner 92, or something like the Armada ARV 94 to split the difference.
Hello. Sorry for any mistakes - English is not my native language. Help with choosing the length of these skis. my height is 177 cm and my weight is 78 kg. I want to use these skis as universal skis for skiing all over the mountain with training in freestyle terrain. I’m struggling with the choice between 177 cm and 184 cm. please help me))))
if you want to ski more off piste, maybe get 184. If youre going to ski in between trees a lot, i would get the 177s. 184s are more stable when going faster also
Bob. thank you for humbling yourself to allow Jeff to offer more than a review, but a testimony. This review is a lot more personal, and in my
opinion, definitely more desired from a skier, as well as a consumer perspective.
Jeff thank you for sharing your personal thoughts and experiences. Purely enjoyed it.👍
Thanks for the kind words and feedback! Always good to hear, and we do like highlighting that certain skis aren't meant for certain skiers!
Another stellar review by SkiEssentials. Very entertaining to watch the interaction between Jeff & Bob. These guys keep it real and honest when it comes to ski assessment, comparison and application. 👍👏❤
Glad you enjoyed it
Had 2 x high tibial osteotomies, 3 arthroscopies and an ACL reconstruction....retired the Mantras (epic ski tho) and pulled the trigger on a pair of Reckoners based on this review - awesome.
18:44 - that looked really close 😮
Jeff’s “palms up” gesture right after confirms that 🫣
always watch out for the dude bent at the waist.
Claims to have "never saw."
That rodeo was sliiiiick 🤠
Thanks!
Awesome. Ski looks great! Hope we will see the reckoner 124, Reckoner KF and qst X as well:D
Hoping for more snow to do those skis justice!
Always great reviews! Appreciate it.
Glad you like them!
18:45
Most dangerous thing at the resort.
It happens.
Awesome review. You ski so amazing Jeff, much respect! Lil' help, pls. 65 yrs., 6', 160 lbs., advanced, all CO, so lots of 2"-4" freshies, occasional 8-10" pow, some scrapey, some cord. Love my '16 Shreditor 102 177cm but they are getting wasted, need to replace, but what with? My typical day include black/blue groomers and bumps, trees, getting more into serious carving but not at the expense of all the other stuff, no park, slight switch and would do more if i learned how. Love how the Shreditor, floats, pivots, rotates instantly and easily at any speed. Am comfortable on the Shreditor at speed but we know it's a little twitchy/floppy but i handle that fine. I have a deep motocross background and am very comfortable sliding and steering with the rear wheel, so my skiing style reflects that (good or bad). Advice pls!
1) Is the Reckoner 102 yesterday's Shreditor 102?
2) Have demoed an Enforcer 104 Free - no way. Way too heavy, stiff, unresponsive. Wrong type for me.
3) Based on your reviews and my type of days, my short list seems to be Fischer 102 Ranger (love that aqua!!!), Blizzard Rustler 10, Elan Playmaker 100, Solomon QST 98, and the Reckoner 102. Want something that can do it all, like my Shreditor 102!, but not give up anything.
Thanks in advance!
I still think the Shreditor was a bit stiffer than the Reckoner, but if playfulness is high on your list, then it's still a fantastic option. The Playmaker is right there with it in terms of being light and mobile. It drops off from there with the rest of the skis on your list, at least in terms of light weight and playfulness. I do think the QST 98 has a lot to offer from a directional perspective.
@SkiEssentials thank you very much for your expertise
@@Sladep123 I have the 2023 reckoner 102 and QST 98. I love them both. The QST is more damp and seems like it can handle more speed and longer carves on the groomers. The reckoner is a lot of fun and I would say lower top speed but super fun to carve and to learn wheelies. I'm not that good of a skier (mostly blues and some blacks) They are both good multicondition skies but I am usually on my QSTs.
@surfmarko hi surfmarko, that's excellent feedback and just what I was hoping to hear. I love my Shreditor 102's for all they are capable of, which is a lot. I am stoked for all the reasons you mentioned to ride those QST 98's. It sounds like they are just what I was hoping they would be. Thanks!
love it team! #k2reckoner
I also broke a pair of reckoner 102 in a very similar manner, they split the long way
Question for Jeff: in addition to getting forgiving park skis, curious if you have recommendations on how to continue park skiing in your mid-30s while reducing chances of injury. Do you recommend any protective equipment (eg back protectors)? Any other strategies you use? I’m hoping to still progress on rails but don’t want to kill myself. Thanks for the great content!
Probably obvious, but I find general fitness and strength is more and more important each year. I used to be able to just hurl my body through the air and bounce back if I didn't land. These days, in order to withstand falls in the park (which are inevitable), I spend a lot more time on general strengthening, including upper body just to be able to take impact.
Protective equipment can work, but it's never worked great for me. I wore a back protector one season when I was still competing and I felt like the way it hindered my movement negated any safety benefits. I know some people that wear it, but I've also seen a lot of those people get hurt while wearing it. It's not a fail safe.
Progressing on rails can be challenging, but it's very doable. My general advice is just focus on rails that you're super confident on, and that have low impact if you fall. Tubes are great and very forgiving in my experience (I coach a lot still). Then don't try to progress too fast. Be able to slide confidently to both forward and switch on command before you start trying to learn any tricks. I know so many people who want to start doing 270s out and stuff like that, but don't even feel comfortable just sliding a rail and coming off switch.
Anyways, hope that helps!
@@SkiEssentials This is really helpful, thank you! Appreciate you taking the time. Anecdotally, I got the ARV 94s and the Norrona bibs after seeing your reviews and couldn't be happier. Thanks again!
Excellent review guys! I particularly enjoyed the more personal approaches.
Jeff you mentioned that you skied the 184 before. Which are the pros and cons for the two different lengths? Do you find it significantly easier to spin on the 177s than the 184s?
Thanks in advance and looking forward to your next videos!
The 177 is considerably easier to spin, but that's relative. Compared to other 102 mm twins, the 184 is still one of the easier park skis. I think if you're park-specific, the shorter one has more to offer, but any type of freeride potential, or all-mountain versatility, with this light build and flexible nature, I'd like the 184 to garner performance.
Test run a Jeff 100 from on3p such a good ski
Looking to mount a pair of the Look Pivot bindings. The only ones i see a available are 115mm. Is that too big? Can the shop replace w/snaller brake?
Jeff's got a Pivot with a 95 brake on that 102. Fits fine, maybe a bit of stretching required. Pivot brakes cannot be easily swapped.
Do you think a reckoner 102 would pair well with any of the K2 Revolver boots? Thinking of getting a team model (120 flex) with an additional softer tongue to switch between.
For swervy and playful park skiing, I feel this is a great match. Adding flex to flex works great in creative formats.
Awesome review! Deciding between the 24’ and the 25’ side-by-side. At the sale price heading into the upcoming season, it’s hard to not to pick up last year’s 24’ model! Wondering if the difference in construction/durability or any other performance factors would make the $300+ difference in price worth it? Always up for paying more to get more, but if updates are minimal it seems the 24’ could be good value. Thanks for any help!
Personally I don't think it's a $300 upgrade. The majority of attributes carry forward into 2025 without leaving much behind.
Absolutely AWESOME review! Thanks Jeff and Bob! Jeff always nails it, in terms of park, unfortunately i just bought in January current 102s with orange base, but i do like the change in rocker profile, to me looks pretty much exactly like shreditor 102 2016, which i had before reckoners. Do you think the ski is going to perform better true center mounted ? because i find team mark (-2 from true center) sometimes not good landing switch.
Even with the softer flex? I feel like this ski can go either way, but the flex of the new ski kind of makes the move to true center slightly unnecessary.
I really want a soft/playful ski but I think the reckoner is tooo soft…could you recommend a ski (100-106) which is slightly stiffer? Thank you sm!!
How about the Armada ARV 100 or the Faction Prodigy 3. Burlier, but not too rugged!
ski got a WFT TOUR win last week
now if its a consumer version or different layup - like pro tennis player that's something love to know
I saw that 122 (I think that's what it was) and was surprised to see it--pretty sure it's the production model.
@@SkiEssentials it was a 110 i believe
I’m looking at getting the new bent 100s in the coming offseason so how would you compare this new reckoner to the new bent 100?
I’m 6ft’3 and 190lb
the Bent feels more substantial and stable. Even with the new shape and more tail rocker, it's still more of a directional ski vs. true freestyle like this Reckoner. If park isn't a top priority, I'd stick to the Bent.
Are these good skis for an intermediate groomer skier/beginner all mountain and park skier?
They may be on the wide side, but other than width, it's a very flexible and accessible ski for all-mountain and park. You could go a bit narrower to the Reckoner 92, or something like the Armada ARV 94 to split the difference.
Do you still get the team/midsole points on the previous models like the 2024?
Yup! Team looks about -2 from center and Midsole another -2 from there.
Hello. Sorry for any mistakes - English is not my native language. Help with choosing the length of these skis. my height is 177 cm and my weight is 78 kg. I want to use these skis as universal skis for skiing all over the mountain with training in freestyle terrain. I’m struggling with the choice between 177 cm and 184 cm. please help me))))
if you want to ski more off piste, maybe get 184. If youre going to ski in between trees a lot, i would get the 177s. 184s are more stable when going faster also
I think it's okay to go a bit longer on these skis so the 184 makes sense here.
how do these perform in powder?
Not bad! I think skier weight is an issue here as Jeff's 155 pound frame works better than Bob's 225.
Hey, online femur buddy. Burn me up and recycle me into a new set up when I am gone. Thanks Jeff. See ya again.