Nikon D4 vs Canon 1D X Shootout

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  • Опубліковано 19 лис 2024

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  • @YoshiSpendiff
    @YoshiSpendiff 11 років тому +18

    It's an interesting vid but like 99% of camera reviews the answer is "It doesn't matter."
    Just pick one!

    • @KandiKlover
      @KandiKlover 3 роки тому +1

      True, people just use it as an excuse for circle jerking and Gear Acquisition Syndrome. Oh look at me guys I'm switching to such and such brand after blowing $10k on current brand durr durr durr

  • @hawkeye48
    @hawkeye48 10 років тому +110

    So after enduring almost 20 minutes of an adult playing on a skateboard and listening to Jared's diarrhea of the mouth, I still have no fucking idea which camera wins the 'shootout'! Not even one shot to view. How lame is that? I think I've had enough of this I Shoot in Raw cowboy from the '70's.

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  10 років тому +59

      Not one shot to view, are you kidding me? The shots pop up when they are taken and on the website the FULL RES images are there for you to pixel peep all you would like. Cowboy.

    • @RokkarTV
      @RokkarTV 10 років тому +6

      It's sometimes a good idea to look in the info section of the video. i always do that if i feel a review or something else from the video is missing. In most cases, a reviewer have a more in-depth review somewhere else. You speak of diarrhea, there is much of that in your comment, Dale. In my eyes the performance of each camera speaks for itself in the video. image quality; i bet both cameras produce great images.

    • @Diogene_Balbeur
      @Diogene_Balbeur 10 років тому +11

      Jared Polin
      In order to counter-balance the commentary you received here, let me thank you for the amazing work your doing for photography fans. With all respect, from Belgium.

    • @edisamojica4830
      @edisamojica4830 10 років тому +2

      Still canon lead the race

    • @hawkeye48
      @hawkeye48 10 років тому +1

      MrKdr500 Well I would have, but you know how it is when you're passing the scene of an ugly wreck....you just can't help but look in disbelief how someone could create such a mess. Speaking of messes, how's your wife doing? Tell her 'Big Boy' (that's what she prefers to call me) says hello.

  • @Wiscompton608
    @Wiscompton608 11 років тому +11

    Jared, if you end up shooting skating again, leave less headroom. You can get just as tight on the skater, if not tighter, without losing context and while making the trick look bigger. Most of your shots cut out the feature he was hitting, had a bunch of unnecessary headroom, and had him right in the middle of the frame. If you had framed him higher or even laid down on the ground when he was tre flipping over the last feature for example, you could have compressed more of the feature and the foreground in the bottom two thirds. It would have made him more prominent, made the trick look bigger, and would have made for an all around more interesting composition. A 70-200 can be an amazing lens for shooting action if it's done right, I'm an action sports photographer and I usually reach for a long lens when I can.
    Anyway, that's just my two cents. I love that you actually had someone to help you understand shooting something that you didn't have experience in, and it looked like you had a damn good time.

    • @JediFarce
      @JediFarce 10 років тому

      70-200mm is too clumsy for skate boarding, especially this sport allows the photographer to get extremely close for his shots.

    • @davidgill8922
      @davidgill8922 10 років тому

      I don't think you've ever used a good 70-200 on good boy Jedi.....they aren't clumsy at all JediFarce .

    • @lolsa123
      @lolsa123 10 років тому

      David Gill i have shot both football and skating with my tamron 70-200 f/2.8, works great =) a bit slower than the nikon one but in the end i shoot more nature with it so i didn't need to spend that extra 700-800$ :)

    • @JediFarce
      @JediFarce 10 років тому

      David Gill I use a 70-200 all the time to film people on the ice you moron. Go to my channel. The difference between you and I, is that one of us actually knows what they're talking about.

    • @xpy1
      @xpy1 5 років тому

      But he can crop in it's better

  • @connorb752
    @connorb752 10 років тому +8

    Actually that's a frontside lipslide because the back of the board is over the ledge

  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  11 років тому

    Because the Nikon and Canon versions are better than the third party lenses.

  • @chadbeatydop
    @chadbeatydop 11 років тому

    Had my first skate park shoot a little over a week ago. It was for a tv spot and it took about 12 takes to get the 3 teenage skaters to land their tricks at the same time. I was using the D800 with the 14-24.
    I still can't understand how these kids are so awesome and relentless and virtually oblivious to pain not too mention so encouraging to each other. It was a truly awesome experience to see them at work.
    Thanks for the vid man!

  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  11 років тому

    I dont agree. But again leave some feedback as to what you think would be a better choice.

  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  11 років тому

    No clue, its not something I worry about at all.

  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  11 років тому +1

    I probably wont do a ton of them. They do take more time so maybe I will.

  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  11 років тому

    yes.

  • @CarsonFletch
    @CarsonFletch 9 років тому +8

    I was expecting some gaps or something, not long boarding over a double ramp.

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  9 років тому +7

      Zephyr Productions So was I, but the boarder we got ended up with the long board. Next time.

  • @PeterBCPATube
    @PeterBCPATube 8 років тому +6

    funny. 9:08 mark: "Ive got some verticals ... I've got some horizonticals ..."

  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  11 років тому

    Very soon, I hope we can start taking orders again.

  • @Potaterrr
    @Potaterrr 10 років тому +7

    video starts at 4:07 btw

  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  11 років тому

    Hi, if you have already signed up thank you. But in marketing new people see the videos every day so I am letting them know. Thanks.

  • @ItsEzlan
    @ItsEzlan 11 років тому

    Hey jared , i've been shooting skateboarding for a good 7 Years and i can honestly say you did extremely well for something that you're not used to

  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  11 років тому

    If it exists its going to be the same exact camera so no need for a new review.

  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  11 років тому

    It honestly doesn't bother me.

  • @tyblanchard6081
    @tyblanchard6081 11 років тому +1

    Critique is never a bad thing my friend, it means a helpful response to your work. It is never bad because it is meant to make things better. There is a huge difference between critique and insult. For an example: You should capitalize the first letters of your sentences. That was a critique, because it will help you. Here is an insult: "Your grammar sucks". It was an insult because it won't help you, but it will put you down. The assertion that people make that "critiques are bad" is false.

  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  11 років тому

    I agree.

  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  11 років тому

    I agree with you.

  • @Darkest_Soul_187
    @Darkest_Soul_187 10 років тому +13

    Eric should get into a different sport.

    • @fillegrabben
      @fillegrabben 10 років тому

      He is riding a longboard and a cruiseboard, and thats hard, belive me. So i think he's a legend on skateboard.

  • @SXK32
    @SXK32 11 років тому +5

    Great comparison video...the ID X is a freakin machine gun!! FYI When you shoot skateboarders: people smoking weed and skateboards flying at you and your camera are both par for the course : )

  • @haylz27
    @haylz27 11 років тому

    Love when you post vids of you actually going out and shooting. Can we get a rapid fire critique this week?

  • @stubones
    @stubones 11 років тому +1

    Great video Jared, looking forward to the file comparisons :) I agree, both cameras are great. Pick your system and go to work...

  • @GentryWaits
    @GentryWaits 10 років тому

    Great job Jared. Keep up the good work. Don't let some of the hater comments below bother you. I had the 1DX and switched to the D4 recently. They are both excellent both are better in some areas than the other. One thing I love about the D4 is clean HDMI out and headphone jack.

  • @alimukaddes78
    @alimukaddes78 6 років тому

    Second-hand Nikon 4D has replaced shutter from an approved dealer, still worth buying or shouldn't buy?

  • @MarcusfotosDe
    @MarcusfotosDe 11 років тому

    Seems like you where using a relatively closed aperture. Isn't that to easy for the Cameras to perform well then?

  • @johnhaddndiggn5301
    @johnhaddndiggn5301 10 років тому +2

    I used to use Minolta in the 90's until round 2005 and now have Canon. All important Canon vs. Nikon is said from 8:39 on. If I were to sell all my Canon gear today and pick up a Nikon I know I would still capture decent images and, more important, I would still have fun. That said I never thought that there is that WHOAAAA issue with any gear that works, but a trusted friend said "Go for Canon, there's a quite cool rebate and you won't feel a difference anyways" this was my way. Funny thing is that he used a Nikon at that time and still does. For what its worth in my opinion both are great companies with great products, this was something I never doubted.
    But I can learn from this shootout: If you don't have wide lenses handy, you still don't waste your time in a skate park. I will not change my habit of using them there, but I didn't expect to like the 200mm compression at all. Now I have to say it is not as bad as I thought it would be.

    • @tainadelcaribe
      @tainadelcaribe 10 років тому

      Thanks!!!

    • @Elmex_1
      @Elmex_1 10 років тому

      I don't know man. I think a lighter lens lets you move around more and try different angles. Those 70-200 are kinda heavy when you could be walking around and trying stuff differently. Maybe a 85 might work here?

  • @Technologyadvisor1
    @Technologyadvisor1 9 років тому

    hi got another question here I have been looking at the 5d mark 1 and 2 for a cheap second hand
    was thinking if I do a wedding would need a full frame camera was tempted to buy a 7D canon body second hand for around £500 but I can also buy a 1d mark 3 it only has 10 megapixels it would be great for wildlife at 10 frames per second but with a crop of 1.3 is it any good as it does not seem full frame. any ideas thanks......

  • @Stainless404
    @Stainless404 11 років тому

    Hey Fro, sad story, i bought a used Canon 70-200 f4 IS a while ago, so i don't have warranty. Now the autofocus broke, first it slipped through, now its reaaaally slow. Now i'm wondering what to do. Repair it? Will cost around 400-500€ probably, or buy the 2.8 IS II ? What would you do? I'm very sad to let that lens go, it's so great, and also light... I also thought of the Canon 300 or 200 prime, but i think it is not as practical. What would you do? Cheers.

  • @SuperDigitalMe
    @SuperDigitalMe 10 років тому +1

    Yo yo Jared! What about the backfocusing with the D4 like you said in your preview movie for the D4S? Was it solved here or what?

  • @KlutzyCurtis
    @KlutzyCurtis 11 років тому

    This is a really good video. I like the format of "Here's the gear, let's compare side by side in something you might actually use it for."
    Do more of these if possible, please.

  • @Proctie1
    @Proctie1 11 років тому

    I gotta give it to you. You are dedicated to what you do, you listen to constructive criticism but stand your ground as a professional but most surprisingly you are active in a sense that most "youtubers" aren't by replying to a ton of comments.
    +Respect

  • @Sitti2300
    @Sitti2300 11 років тому

    Better in what way? I decided to go with D4 because it is a low light king. Tests have shown that 1DX has problem focusing in very low light. Also 1DX can't match the noise in low light. However, this doesn't mean D4 is better than 1DX. Each camera has different pros and cons. You must take these into consideration and decide which camera would work better for YOU.

  • @pvtjoker90
    @pvtjoker90 9 років тому +6

    he´s the black session filmer from tony hawks 4 :D

  • @sjbuck
    @sjbuck 11 років тому

    Good to see you going back to your roots.

  • @williambennett2884
    @williambennett2884 11 років тому

    I have 1DX and love it, but the 5DM3 and 7D are also great cameras as well. I'm sure if you did choose to go with the 1DX, you won't regret it, but it does have a steep price tag, that was my only regret. The 1DX uses the same 61 point AF system as the 5DMK3, so that will be familiar to you, but you also get 5 different AF drives scenarios that I am not sure are available for the 5DMK3. Rent one, I am sure you will love it.

  • @miller33625
    @miller33625 11 років тому +1

    Thanks! Good review! Can you do the same kind of review indoors, in a lower light situation? In my opinion the 1DX blows away the D4 for anything over ISO 3200.

  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  11 років тому

    Lol, i wont be getting a d800 any time soon. I am still borrowing one from nikon but only for video.

  • @MilanSvitek
    @MilanSvitek 11 років тому

    Hey, switching between a D3S, a K-5 IIs, and a T3i is not easy...
    ... Also, most cameras F*up in their focusing in a changing focal length, so how are they while zooming the lens?

  • @jakesweeney7467
    @jakesweeney7467 11 років тому

    Jared, it would be amazing if you could review the Nikon d610 during a skateboarding shoot!!! I saw your Nikon d600 review at a high school football game and it was awesome! Please do a new d610 review!

  • @dbauernf
    @dbauernf 11 років тому

    Amazing video Jared, that's the kind of video that I subscribed for ages ago!

  • @alanarmes951
    @alanarmes951 8 років тому

    Hi I think your show is ace,but would you do a show on older dslr I am only just getting into it and have bought a cannon 350d I love it but I don't no wot sort of lenses to buy,and filters,any help would be great from Alan in uk thanks

  • @triumvier
    @triumvier 11 років тому

    If you were using the XQD card on the D4 would you think that you could continuously shoot until the card filled up with out filling the buffer first?

  • @djwavepad420
    @djwavepad420 11 років тому

    what do you guys think of camera like the canon SX 50 HS and Looking to get a T3i for my first DSLR

  • @steviekylie
    @steviekylie 11 років тому

    Excellent video. Wish I could afford either of the cameras

  • @yourheaven102
    @yourheaven102 8 років тому

    Great video! Could you show me how you set up AF config and AF area mode on 1DX to shoot these picture???

  • @SixSpeedSeven
    @SixSpeedSeven 11 років тому

    i wish this video was longer. Great vid Jared. Is there any way you could do more comparisons between these two, but with different sports? Like football or something. Or do more comparisons in general?

  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  11 років тому

    I like them.

  • @KenCheng
    @KenCheng 11 років тому

    you can check out the scores over at DxOmark for both cameras. According to their thorough testings, the D4 beats out the 1Dx in dynamic range

  • @Proctie1
    @Proctie1 11 років тому

    Looking forward for the second part of this shootout! Great real world demonstration, definitely much better than the boring tripod tests that most guys do.

  • @scarmenl
    @scarmenl 11 років тому

    Thanks for the video. I'm going with the Canon. Not because the Canon is so much better but because I have Canon gear already and like the color. Nikon and Canon are both great systems.

  • @MrMauwdee
    @MrMauwdee 11 років тому

    Hey there jared I went this weekend tried to shoot a sport with the canon 7D 70-200mm ii I tried the ai servo I was wondering if you can make a video on how to properly use canons and nikons continuous focus mode. Ive been trying to find one but they dont really explain how to properly use it.

  • @w8tless930
    @w8tless930 11 років тому

    Hello Jared, do you have problems with the greenish tint when viewing the screen?

  • @zeeLibertiner
    @zeeLibertiner 11 років тому

    Great video and nice shots, Jared! I'd love to see more of that!

  • @adriansnetwork
    @adriansnetwork 11 років тому

    I have been subscribed to you a long time and boy you are so good! I really enjoy your videos. You are a awesome photographer and a great talker/youtuber.

  • @rochat
    @rochat 11 років тому

    I think his point was that if you used a Tamron (for example) on both bodies, it might be a better was of testing which body performs better with AF since the lenses are identical. As this test stands, either the Canon or Nikon lens maybe faster than the other in terms of focusing speed which would affect the outcome of the test on the bodies themselves.

  • @Airforcephotoguy
    @Airforcephotoguy 10 років тому

    Love the shoulder harness you used can I get info on the product? Thanks in Advance

  • @nicholassantrizos9092
    @nicholassantrizos9092 11 років тому

    I loved everything in the comparison. My only issue is the still dead set stance skaters have on using wide angle glass. I think the longest lens I ever see at skate parks is maybe 70mm's on a 24-70mm. Every time I'm out shooting at parks I'm the only one with fast primes above 35mm's and long tele's. Sure I'm half across the park shooting but I'm creating a different image than everyone on the ramps with their 16-35mm's and 10-20mm's.

  • @AbsolutumDominiom
    @AbsolutumDominiom 11 років тому

    Great shootout Jared :D
    filling the frame pictures were way better than wide!

  • @bazdaish8297
    @bazdaish8297 10 років тому

    Hi Jared,
    Thanks for your continued info.
    Regards, Baz

  • @LucasGuerra01
    @LucasGuerra01 9 років тому

    What camera did you record this video? I'm from Brazil and would like to buy one. Thanks!

  • @pedrocardoso9310
    @pedrocardoso9310 9 років тому

    you are awesome, dude! glad i found your channel since im just beggining at photography

  • @CosmicSkeptic
    @CosmicSkeptic 10 років тому +1

    10:00 frontside lipslide not boardslide

    • @blayde10
      @blayde10 9 років тому

      Yes It's so irritating

    • @KandiKlover
      @KandiKlover 3 роки тому +2

      @@blayde10 no it's not. Stop being a pansy.

  • @JediFarce
    @JediFarce 10 років тому +8

    Jared would never make it as a skate boarding photographer. He's mistaking hockey for skate boarding, you're not going to be using a long range lens to capture the action in skate boarding as you would with players on the ice.

    • @likeawhispr
      @likeawhispr 10 років тому +1

      Sometimes using a longer lens in any sport (to include skating) makes for a better photograph, than shooting wide, although I'd rather usually be up close to the skater, with a 17-35 f/2.8 on the camera most of the time. However, there are some rare times in this context where I'd rather use a longer lens for more compression and subject isolation.
      What lens or approach is best is totally dependent on what results the photographer is seeking to obtain. There is no such thing as a right or wrong lens.

    • @mainlymusicman
      @mainlymusicman 8 років тому +1

      yeah the photos are pretty boring. it also doesnt help that the skater is only coming like 3 inches off the ground.

  • @nicholassantrizos9092
    @nicholassantrizos9092 11 років тому

    Been shooting skateboarding since i was 12, so roughly 10 years, from video to photography and everyone I shoot they never give up. and when they do the do it one more time and nail it.

  • @TheWat123456789
    @TheWat123456789 11 років тому

    Great shooting. Can you try long exposure shots with them next?

  • @TheMrBennito
    @TheMrBennito 9 років тому

    mr Polin, I took this from yr website:"I did notice that the Canon files seemed to have a little more contrast when they were brought in to lightroom. As you know I love to make my files go boom with contrast and will take all the contrast I can in my files. I am not fully positive that this is the case, it just seemed that way visually to me. In the end it is still what you bring out of the RAW file that truly matters".
    What is the idea of this loading with contrast? Thank you.I like the non-tripod approach, by the way.

  • @PeeHooo
    @PeeHooo 11 років тому

    Thanks Jared, really enjoy watching these kind of comparisions! :)

  • @John2070
    @John2070 10 років тому

    As some people have mentioned I would like to see side by side comparison of images from the two cameras. I really wish Jarod had done that.

  • @alexdoodd
    @alexdoodd 11 років тому

    Do you think you will make the switch to Canon?

  • @Buraken
    @Buraken 11 років тому

    Probably the opposite. The fro shades the head from direct sunlight and keeps it cool.

  • @3bphotoCanada
    @3bphotoCanada 11 років тому

    16mm fisheye, Canon's 8-15mm f/4 lens (or the older 2.8 version) , 16-35mm , 24mm prime,35mm prime, 24-70 (but I wouldn't ever use that on my skate shoots personally) and the 14-24mm which is a great option.

  • @srobart
    @srobart 11 років тому

    That fro has GOT to be ridiculously hot in the summer. I shave my head in the summer because I can't stand the heat. I don't know how you do it Jared. That's some kind of impressive dedication to your hair. :D

  • @BrianStalter
    @BrianStalter 11 років тому

    Why wouldn't you be able to? You can utilize wireless triggers to set off flashes off camera. :) I do with my D5100.

  • @AkersTimothy
    @AkersTimothy 11 років тому

    How many stops of dynamic range do either of these have? Are there any comparisons?
    Thanks

  • @jackpettit4095
    @jackpettit4095 11 років тому

    Hi Jared. Could you let us know what Custom Function settings you used for this shoot?
    I am particularly interested in the 1D X settings. Thanks

  • @OrangeMaterial
    @OrangeMaterial 11 років тому

    props to the person who had to edit all those photos into the video!!

  • @JD-yv2zx
    @JD-yv2zx 11 років тому

    totally agree with you mate, great idea

  • @bratosin1
    @bratosin1 10 років тому

    jared you are very good but please make the reviews like michael the mentor, straith to the point ,A/B side by side comparison in every aspect.

  • @rendyonline
    @rendyonline 11 років тому +6

    "I've got some horizonticals" :D

    • @KandiKlover
      @KandiKlover 3 роки тому

      "reefer madness" lmao cryin bout a lil bit of weed

  • @sreejinair
    @sreejinair 11 років тому +1

    I just love the new word Horizontical

  • @tyblanchard6081
    @tyblanchard6081 11 років тому

    Yeah, thanks, it did help. All right, you got me. But, you made it more obvious that critiques are bad then anything and that's not something you can argue with. You said people "harshly" critique the efforts of others. Harsh means unpleasantly rough or jarring the senses (dictionary definition).

  • @louielambretta389
    @louielambretta389 11 років тому

    Hi Jared will we be getting a 70d review?

  • @GuyRWood
    @GuyRWood 10 років тому +4

    Brave guy walking around with 15 grands worth of cameras!

    • @KandiKlover
      @KandiKlover 3 роки тому +1

      Wasn't just walking around but left them laying around. Of course people know better than to try stuff at a skatepark unless they wanna catch some trucks to the head.

  • @gregchamberlain7554
    @gregchamberlain7554 9 років тому +3

    Horizoticals?

  • @MrPutrifyingEagor
    @MrPutrifyingEagor 11 років тому

    Hip Hip Hoorah Jared! Thank you,a real world shooting comparison,not shooting flat Res charts in some basement somewhere!! I love your channel! I'm kind of thinking of ditching my 5D MKIII & 7D I& getting a 1DX.Im not sure though?

  • @hrabia
    @hrabia 10 років тому

    how is the fps when you shoot multiple exposures?

  • @refusedchaos
    @refusedchaos 11 років тому

    jared your production value has been fantastic as of late. Good job!

  • @3bphotoCanada
    @3bphotoCanada 11 років тому

    Interesting you say that because the top skate photographers in the world use medium format. So I don't buy into the whole "focusing speed" and frame rate arguments. It's about anticipation and knowing what you are shooting (and composition) that's the key to skateboard photography.

  • @MrPutrifyingEagor
    @MrPutrifyingEagor 11 років тому

    Thanks for your reply,I love both the 5D MKIII and the now ageing 7D! Originally I was going to sell the 7D but kept it due to its frame rate and 1.6 sensor effectively giving me another set of L lenses-I really find this useful for my wildlife photography.This is where the 1DX would shine with its enormous frame rate,I have missed numerous "Nature Moments" where with the 1DX i may have stood another chance.I think your idea is great about renting one,I will want real bad after! I can feel it !

  • @albertr915
    @albertr915 11 років тому

    great video jared. like it alot. i really like to see from you a 5 min photoshoot video using these two camera's in the same video side by side to see whitch one does the best job in a 5 min photoshoot video.

  • @mihalis1010
    @mihalis1010 9 років тому +2

    Respectable photographer, just not when it comes to skating. Photographing skating is an art in and of itself. It's more about the board than it is the skater, so when one is photographing skating, they should frame the obstacle and the board and the skater equally and not focus ONLY on the skater. Takes some time to learn. Side note, that front board was actually a frontside lipslide.

  • @louielambretta389
    @louielambretta389 11 років тому

    Jared will we be getting a 70d review any time soon?

  • @Jorda5s
    @Jorda5s 4 роки тому +1

    12:00 When the Reefer madness begins haha

  • @BinoyMishra88
    @BinoyMishra88 11 років тому

    Great vid Fro, but I do think that a UWA would have been a better choice. Imagine taking the boarder from below while he is on air with a UWA (although there is a chance of injury and broken gear)..

  • @Ceko
    @Ceko 11 років тому

    Crazy cool skate park by the way! Where is that?

  • @lucianoblues8753
    @lucianoblues8753 11 років тому

    Sorry, but the "shootout" in the title shows (imho) what you should expect from the video. No office review, but the real work with both. Very honest.

  • @abokwu
    @abokwu 11 років тому

    covers head from direct sunlight. also curls as opposed to straight hair acts to cool down direct heat.