A STORM OF SWORDS - By George R. R. Martin (Review)
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2018
- My review of the third book in the Song of Ice and Fire series, A Storm of Swords. Written by George R. R. Martin. The Series responsible for A Game of Thrones.
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The final chapter had me running around my house like a mad man. I don't think any other book has ever done that to me.
Keeping it spoiler free, I totally get why. I knew what would happen and my pulse was still racing!
For the last chapters, I sat for like 5 hours straight.
GOOD GOD THAT WAS TENSE
The epilogue was legendary
The final chapter or the epilogue?
@lyrics and more They're probably talking about the epilogue
Open question for everyone: who is your favorite contestant to the iron throne and why is it Stannis Baratheon?
Bend your knee to the one true king!!
He seems like a true guy...who might do the right thing
Because he is the only contender who learns to put the realm before himself. I am sure Dany will learn that eventually, but at the end of Dance With Dragons, she is in the character place where Stannis was when he laid siege to Storm's End - full of righteous fury, determined to claim what is hers and no longer accepting any bullshit denials or opposition. She's got to face her own Blackwater before she is ready to go fight the real enemy - the White Walkers & their army of enslaved dead.
@Gaming User Book was published in 2011. I'm sorry if your experience was diminished, but there has to be some point beyond which "caveat lector" becomes the operating principle.
Stannis is like best combination of a lot of characters and takes the positives out of them too and leaves the negatives of all the great characters. He's honorable like Ned Stark, but isn't honorable to a point where it would kill him. Stannis is as cunning as Tywin Lannister but isn't cruel and evil. Stannis has a strong sense of duty like Jon Arryn like how his last words were "the seed is strong" , on his death bed he was still doing his duty by Robert. Just like how Stannis and his garrison were starving at Storms end - (forgotten) he did and his duty and held the fortress. Stannis is also humbled unlike literally everyone striving for the throne which is due to Davos (Saving the Kingdom to win the throne - cart before the horse). Not to mention he's one of the greatest commanders in westeros if not the best with a strong military history. But most importantly... He is the one true king of westeros.
"The Red Wedding was a good thing and I really enjoyed it"
- Daniel Green
Honestly I did too because Annoying Cat and Robb got to be off'd and we got Badass Lady Stoneheart.
@@EL-ISS Why do you think Robb is annoying
@@jaimelannister1797 I find the Starks annoying because they're honourable to a fault. That's why nearly all stark men have died.
They make decisions assuming the other party is as honourable as they are ... And everytime they do this they die. Que Ned, Robb, Jon, Brandon (older brother), and Rickard.
They all had deaths that were avoidable had they just stopped and thought: "Hey maybe this dude is gonna kill me." And which each of their deaths pretty heavy hints are given beforehand. There's even a few times where the Stark know their hated yet still don't take action. Like when Ned tried to do the right thing and warn Cersei ... Only to lose his head.
GRRM even went on about how that's their family hubris, or their "Fatal Flaw" as a house. I think the Lannister's fatal flaw is selfishness.
Both houses ended up dealing the most crippling blows to themselves. Robb going against his vows to mary a Frey and Tywin alienating his son to the point that his own child killed him.
@@EL-ISS Yeah I understand that. I just can't help but love the Starks. Though to me it seems the Tullys have always been the more honorable house, and I think Ned's honor is more unique to him rather than the Starks in general. Historically the Starks have been known to be wild and even ruthless. I think Ned's honor may also be related to being raised by Jon Arryn. Also I wouldn't associate Jon's death to him being honorable. Just before his death he decides to break his vows, and while killing him definitely wasn't honorable, I can 100% understand their motivation as Jon attacking the Boltons could've easily caused their downfall
@@jaimelannister1797 You raised a few fair point there honestly. I like the Starks too, not as much as other houses, but to each their own.
And speaking of Starks being "wild" it reminds me of "The Hour of the Wolf" with Gragen Stark (or however you spell it) I love that story.
If Winds of Winter ever comes out, I'm really curious as to how House Stark will end up. I feel like GRRM has a big redemption ark coming up and I can't wait.
Unfortunately GRRM hides so many things within the story, you can’t full appreciate what he has done unless you re read it a few times. Or you have other people point it out for you
Or have watched multiple Lucifer Means Lighbringer videos.
LML is one such source. History of Westeros and Radio Westeros are probably the leaders.
Yes. I was sorry I skipped all Dany's POVs for this reason ^_^
You're condescending
Thats what i love tho!
This book was literally perfect.
agreed! a great book like the preceding 2. for me it is the final act.
900~ pages of "holy shit this is incredible" written in a single year
The last conversation between tywin and Tyrion.... Damn it was amazing.
agreed
Storm of Swords is easily one of the greatest fantasy novels of all time.
The greatest.
The greatest
I have to disagree, this book does not establish the Lannisters as a great threat, rather its goal is to expose them as the wretched cancer and blight on the kingdom that they are. While it ends with them in control of the Iron Throne, they had it by the end of the first book, and the other claimants were defeated or dead before "A Storm of Swords" begins. And this book is a pretty damning look at a kingdom where the Lannisters are now firmly on top. There are recurring images of devastation, destruction and misery. Their society is not even functional, as represented by four different weddings shown in this book, none of which are about love or bringing families together, rather they are about hatred, betrayal and are means of striking at opponents.
Far from building them up, the book ends with their most dangerous fighter crippled, the brains of the family murdered by another member, the other smart one condemned and exiled, a hapless child as their king and the incompetent, shallow Cersei coming to the fore. Both Lannister point of view characters in this book, Jaime & Tyrion, have a negative & skeptical reaction when contemplating their House's ascendancy.
It's clear in the aftermath of the Red Wedding that they are bound to despicable allies. Their king is murdered by the very family the Lannisters are depending on for support. They are going to rely to hold half their kingdom, on Roose Bolton, who tells Jaime to his face that Tywin cannot touch him, and they are bending over backwards giving grooms and brides to the venal Freys, and offices and honors to Littlefinger, a glorified accountant.
And no one is loyal to them. Littlefinger is plotting against them, the Tyrells are plotting against them, Varys is plotting against them, the Martells hate them, the Boltons are cynically taking all the rewards without being impressed by them in the slightest. Those followers they have who are capable and competent quit, like Barristan or the Hound, or are driven off. The rest are brownnosers and idiots, like the Kettleblacks, Boros Blount, Meryn Trant, Cleos Frey and Amory Lorch.
When Tywin Lannister first attacked Beric Dondarrion, treacherously, while he carried the king's banner, the Lightning Lord had 120 men. In this book we see his forces have swelled to an army. And the very last thing we see in A Storm of Swords, is the Lannisters' & Freys' greatest crime literally come back from the dead to destroy them. Jaime reveals that Kingslanding is sitting on a giant wildire bomb, and has been for 15 years, and we already know that wildfire that old is ever more dangerous.
"A Storm of Swords" is the death of House Lannister. It's just taking them two more books to lie down. If there is anything but a remnant huddling in Casterly Rock at the end of "Winds of Winter" I'll be astonished.
To be fair they didn't get the throne in the 1st book they basically had it since the mad king named Tywin his hand. They had more power when Robert was king than they did with Joffrey. "Sad" thing is they probably would've been fine if his wife didn't die.
@@codycooper2753 Whose wife? The only wife that fits is Tywin's wife, Joanna, but that's not true at all. Tywin was committing atrocities well before her death, with his massacres of the Reynes & Tarbecks. He filled a castle with water to drown all the children, women & servants who did nothing to harm or oppose him. When Joanna's father Stafford was taken hostage, and his captor demanded a trade of prisoners, Tywin wanted to send her husband back dismembered. Clearly his love for Joanna did nothing to tame his bloodlust or teach him right & wrong.
@@Gunleaver You missed my point. I said they'd have been fine. As in his kids wouldn't have been fuck ups and they'd be firmly in power. I never said he'd have been a good person lol. Just that his kids wouldn't have all contributed to his death.
@@codycooper2753 We can't really say that, since we don't know Joanna Lannister. Maybe she would have made them worse. She's still a Lannister, born into that ethos that a Lannister is worth more, and raised in the privilege & luxury of Casterly Rock. Just because she's Tyrion's mother is no guarantee she'd be any nicer to him or be able to protect him from trauma. Melessa Tarly was unable to protect Sam from his father's abuse, and there are mothers who don't love their children as much as they love other aspects of their life, or whose love reinforces toxic ideas, like Cersei with Joffrey's brutality. Maybe Joanna would have headed off the twincest at the pass, but sleeping with one another did not make Jaime & Cersei into monsters, their egos and arrogance did that.
@@Gunleaver my point is Tywin actually loved her and would have more than likely been more involved in his childrens lives with her around. So at the very least he'd have been around to stop them for making as many mistakes. But there 100% would have been less hate towards Tyrion, his sister and his father.
While I totally respect and appreciate your “liked it/didn’t like it” opinions, I would MUCH rather an open hearted literary discussion on the finer points of character analysis, plot analysis, plot devise break down and an occasional appreciation of prose, etc.
I like the way you think and how it encourages me to think about what I’m reading/listening to with a more critical ear.
I don't know whether watching the Red Wedding before reading the Red Wedding heightened my reaction to it but I found the book to be even more horrendous (in a good way). Going inside Cat's mind as she claws her own eyes out, I caught myself trembling. A book has never had such an effect on me before.
The closest was probably when Frodo 'died' in LOTR, but that was more shock than anything.
Thumbnail of the year 10/10
Keep doing what you're doing Daniel - your reviews are so in-depth and well executed, definitely the best I've seen and heard!
Ser Jaime- the most complex and amazing (and human) character in the history of fiction
Thank you.✌️🇺🇸
Lmao nah but he’s up there
@@Milkra Don't just disagree. Make alternative claims.
The best book in the series so far for me to.
Thanks to this book (As well as Nikolai's acting) Jamie Lannister is ultimately my favorite character in the series.
As it turned out in the end, Tywin Lannister did not shit gold.
Unrivaled is definitely the right word to use. It’s hard to read anything else after reading these books. Nothing else compares
Jaime lannister's arc made me question my morality
I'm a newcomer to fantasy, and have been working my way through many books over the past year. A Storm of Swords ight be my favorite. The characters that GRR Martin has created is mind blowing. This book was just chock full of major story events, they just kept coming. Then the epilogue mmm *chef's kiss*
As bad as the last season was I will still say that the scene in the show I think is the best is the bath scene with Jamie (my favorite character book or show) and Brienne.I think Nikolaj did everything right in that scene and really embodied the reason why I love Jamie as a character. It was butchered later, but what you gonna do:S
Yhea I started hating Jaime at the begging of GOT at the end of FFC he was my favorite character
Jamie and Cersei are two of the best written characters in all of fantasy. The arcs they go on from the beginning through A Feast For Crows is done so well
I felt that Cat's Oldstones speech tied up Robb's ark perfectly. "We are all songs in the end, if we're lucky."
Completely agree A Storm of Swords is also my favourite ASoIaF novel, with A Dance With Dragons a close second.
I remember liking this book a fair bit when I read it. I'd say I entirely agree with your review, and I didn't find it to aimless.
Best book in the series BY FAR.
Best book I ever read. That's of factuals 💯
Hello, good video. I think that it's pretty awesome that sometimes the reader is paying attention to the conflict with the characters that are not in Castle black and forgets about the problems whit the wall because that is exactly what happens in the story, all the people in Kings landing are so worried about who's gonna end up in the throne that they don't listen to the night watch .
Also I really like the fact that almost all the characters are not just good and bad with the exception of Joffrey and Ramsey and that in the story is demonstrated that even if someone is trying to be a supper good person, in some circumstances they have to do bad things or else they will die, the great examples are Ned and Rob, they did the honorable , good thing but it wasn't the correct way of doing things in the circumstances they were in.
ITS a SONG OF ICE AND FIRE!!!!11
Daniel have you actually watched any of Sandersons lectures? They are all over youtube
This series is called a “song of ice and fire” I know it’s annoying but I hate it when people refer to the books as game of thrones
But the show is called game of thrones and it is kind of easier and faster to say than 'a song of ice and fire'.
The show sucks...
Nikolay Tsankov Not seasons 1-4, but season 7... yeah.
@@thattheresagirl The fact that there is a TV show is exactly why would should refer to the book series by the actual name. To keep it from being confused with the TV show or to understand that you are talking about the whole series, instead of the first book.
it's frustrating to hear from a thematic point of view- as the 'Game of Thrones' is a massive distraction that is making it harder and harder for the realm to be prepared for the real threat- which is 'A Song of Ice and Fire'.
ok, i know it's a different vid, but how is tyrion NOT in your top ten characters vid? (btw i love ur vids)
I like the Critical analysis & speculation. I didn’t find it too ramblely either.
Awesome channel dude keep it up
Patchface should sit on the Iron Throne.
Best fantasy series ever but wish it ddI t take him so long in between books! Start the series in 1996!😬
the Riverlands gets fuuuuucked in this book, Feast reads like the aftermath of an apocalypse whenever we see it through Brienne's eyes.
Hi!!! Always great seeing ur videos!! Sorry not fan games thrones book series 🙁 happy reading to everyone!! 🍁
The only thing I think George could have changed was to expand the story here and leave out Tyrions trial or trial by combat for book 4 so that the book had more substance and A Storm of Swords wasn't so compact because SO MUCH happens, not that i'm against that it's just that not a lot happens in the later books
I think A Dance with Dragons is great since it expands the story to things that are important to the wider plot and things the reader cares about. The Others, Arya's training in Braavos and to me the most interesting plotline, the secret Targaryen heir. A Feast for Crows in the other hand focuses mostly on plotlines that are unimportant and uninteresting both to the wider plot and the reader: the ironborn fighting each other (who cares?), Brienne and Pod, the two most boring characters in the series wandering around in the countryside looking for Sansa and Arya even though we already know at that point where they are and that the whole thing is just pointless. Cersei's struggle in the King's Landing is kinda interesting, especially when you as the reader realize that you are actually rooting for Cersei, which you definitely did not see coming. Bran learning to be the three-eyed raven is very boring but I guess it's important to the whole plot...
Daniel's looking more Lannister than Greene...
Ramble on
Gotta find the que... book of all my dreams
Your doing great!
Hi, Daniel! Glad you enjoyed ASOS, definitely it is the best entry in the series. I recommend doing the combined lecture of A Feast for Crows and a Dance with Dragons. You will enjoy this books a lot more reading them this way! Cheers!
Can you please elaborate on the combined lecture thing?
bcs I'm at this exact point right now
I agree completely with pretty much all said.
The whole time with The king slayer and Brienne is just amazing to go from completely hating that man and feeling like I wanted piss on him if he was on fire to feeling so sympathetic for him was surprising.
I'm waiting for your review on ADWD. I personally liked it better than aSoS. Best prologue and some of the memorable speeches (Lord Manderly) and many little twists including some characters that were supposed to be "dead". But I can see why asos is the popular choice.. It does leaves a mark on its readers.
Sakata School of Trolling I also enjoyed ADWD, but it might just be because Tyrion is my fave.
+Prince of the Ravens His POV chapters are probably the best in this book (adwd) to be honest.. But the biggest surprise was Theon.
Have you read the Demon cycle series by Peter V Brett.....ahh it’s great
“I would honestly not mind focusing on just one set of these characters whether it’s Jon and khaleesi, or just the lannisters”
George Martin: say less
I can't even make myself read the entire series when I have no guarentee it will ever be finished :(
Cata Tony I mean, sure, I guess I see why you would say that but really the whole thing could stop right now and I’d be glad I got to read them as is...and I’d re-read them still knowing the story wasn’t finished.
It’s still worth reading as 5 books have gone by and many characters are venturing into their arcs and have changed. Even if the books aren’t finished there is so much you will gain when it comes to story telling. Also, the TV show will provide a little closure at least.
Christine Roland and this comment didn’t age well
Completely understand I’ve read all the GRRM books but I stopped reading the Dark Tower Series 5 books in because it started getting dumb. Glad I did because from what I’ve read online SK just gave up on the story.
I read the book before watching the show- I physically threw the book across the room at the red wedding- then walked over and picked it up again so I could keep reading.
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I will try to keep this as spoiler-free as I can
Daniel
Sorry to tell you
But you read the last finished ASOIAF book.....
By which I mean that books 4 and 5 are supposed to be one and the same, just split in 2, depending on the location of POVs. (We have a saying here in the GoT fandom - book 4 is about boring (new) characters doing interesting things and book 5 is about our favourite characters doing boring things) And they(Books 4/5) also lack the culmination they build up to. Nearly all, NEARLY ALL (I'm serious, I wish I wasn't) the stories are left on cliffhangers. Book 3 was the best. Because it was finished. And now we have to wait 9+ years just to get a satisfying culmination. ;-;
Also this isn't WoTTalk, but keep calling me just Nick
"GRRM manipulates us to like Jaime"
OH BUDDY, YOU JUST WAIT TILL CERSEI IN THE NEXT BOOK
It's like the Rhuidean chapters of GRRM
It's his masterpiece, his legacy, his brilliance!
You just wait, my sweet summer child, you just wait. You still have surprises that the show has not spoiled. You still have good plots that were ruined in the TV series ahead of you to read.
I don’t normally like epilogues or prologues, I find they can be gratuitous but man the epilogue at the end had me lost for words!
I loved the red wedding, thats what happens to people who put "honour" above common fucking sense. The sooner the starks die the better.
🤔 I wonder if D&D watched your review specifically where you said the crisis north of the Wall could be lifted out and you’d still have a great story (sorry to paraphrase)
This is my favorite book of all time
3:15 Goodreads: You underestimate my power!
Is that Han Solo's blaster?
Hello Daniel I well review a storm of swords how I think about it makeing chose vary king in t v show it is and books as well I word I now I give satrs 5 in mind in t v show and books
8:41 "Sister diddler" LMAO
how did you mess up the pronunciation Brienne?
FIRST!
This makes me wan't to reread TSOIAF !
8:06 *Lady Stoneheart has entered the chat*
SPOILER
You kinda knew all the kings were gonna buy it after Melisandre worked her king killing blood magic. I know i didn't want to believe Robb was going to buy it, but it wasn't too surprising when he did.
Sister Didler😂😂😂😂💯
A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE!!!!!
"...any character could make a good choice..." Accept for Jeofrey... It's always Jeofrey.
This is THE fantasy book. If you read this book (and the 2 leading to it) and do not like it. Fantasy is not for you.
I can see why some people don’t like LoTR, I can see why people don’t like WoT, I like both, but GoT thru SoS are rhe best character, human, work I’ve ever read. Full stop.
IMO, easily the best fiction book I’ve ever read.
Haha, when the bookcase was a baby.
not rambly at all, even if you go more in depth with literary devices and implications juts keep the format organized and it will not sound rambly, again organization of the topics is key.
I have a big problem with A Song of Ice and Fire.. its gets bigger and bigger which is not a problem at first but GRRM lost some characters and plots that I really liked. I think overall he does not know how to put the pieces together. Brandon Sanderson took profit of that mistake, he even said that.
EDIT: I agree with you on this book though, its the best of the series. Didn`t you read the series years ago?
How was the Red Wedding jarring and shocking? It was foreshadowed since the prior book. Yes, it was gut-wrenching and horrible to experience in a literary sense, but if you paid attention you knew it was coming. Theon had a dream and Dany had a vision foretelling the Red Wedding in "A Clash of Kings", all of Catelyn's point of view chapters in "A Storm of Swords" were ominous and carried a sense of doom and gloom. The oracle woman the Brotherhood consults predicts the Red Wedding and so does Patchface. We already knew Roose Bolton was being treacherous with his wolf hunting and sending Robb's men into a trap at Duskendale and his games with Jaime at Harrenhal, and his son BURNING WINTERFELL at the end of aCoK. Seriously, what the hell did you expect when he met up with Robb & Cat, giving them false information about the fall of Winterfell, after he married Walder Frey's granddaughter? Two chapters before the Red Wedding, it should have been obvious that treachery was going down and who from, the only question should have been when was it coming and how.
The show played it as a surprise, yes, because the show would rather go for shock, rather than properly lay the groundwork for a story, which is why the later seasons have the plotting go so far off the rails. But in the books, you could see Robb's betrayal and his death coming a mile away. Also, with four of his siblings having clear fantasy arcs ahead of him, he needed to get out of the story so they could become their destinies without their big brother to save them. Bran, Sansa & Arya's stories don't have the same dramatic weight if they can go home to the nice safe castle reclaimed and protected by King Robb, the Young Wolf, undefeated in battle. Robb has to be out of the way for Jon's choices to fight the greater war instead of claiming Winterfell to mean anything.
Even without that stuff, Robb's a guy who has claimed a crown (or had it tragically forced on him) at a time when two other royal contenders who are not inclined to forgive or forget such things are running around with supernatural assistance, one with a fire witch and the other a trio of dragons. There was nowhere for Robb's story to go but a conflict with Stannis or Daenerys, both of whom are also building up to supernatural messiah stories. Robb was never going to survive and it was pretty obvious his role in that conflict was to be the climactic victim of the villains to make their downfall satisfying.
To that one guy who disliked this video, ever felt so alone?
Usain Bolton
I liked the speculation part of the review; maybe have a separate section where you go into speculation though
Deadhouse Gates has an equally jaw-dropping (and similar) twist at the end, that I would say is actually executed better.
Why you calling her Khaleesi tho
Because she is...
@@jakehopkins6989 ...not named Khaleesi
@@theweedledrop But Khaleesi is here title...
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A STORM OF SWORDS - By George R. R. Martin (Review); or, Daniel Greene Self-Deprecates Himself for Ten Minutes and Forty-five Seconds.
It might be the popular language now, but the show ruined the books and should be separated as possible now
Please stop referring to Daenerys as "Khaleesi"!!! It's SO irritating! It's like referring to Joffrey as "King" as in "I really loved hating King, he is such a little shit head!"
How about "Mother Of Dragons, Breaker Of Chains"?
I’ve really enjoyed binge-watching your channel during quarantine but ASoIaF doesn’t seem to be your expertise (Ik he talked somewhat about it in his Mistake video).
I feel like a lot of this review is vague and doesn’t really articulate specifics growths in the series, the characters, and the politics, which can be done without spoilers but clearly, that’s not the issue as the Red Wedding was talked about.
Also, you’re in Book Three, stop calling Dany “Khaleesi”. This and acting like GRRM just loves to kill off POV/main characters is, in my eyes, a sign of “show story” (and marketing) overshadowing “book story” in some readers'/viewers' minds. Ever since the Dorne split between the two mediums of the story, two different stories were formed.
Along with this, I don’t think Jaime’s “manipulation” as you put it is an accurate way to describe it. Rather, I believe Martin was showing that Jaime is much more complex than previous actions and characters presented him, almost as if he were.....human.
Dany IS a Khaleesi!
@@jakehopkins6989 Na shit. It's a title though being used as a name.
Tywin Lannister did not shit gold....
If you read ASOS like this comment!
1. Feast
2. Clash
3. Storm
4. Dance
5. Thrones
I think after this book, the series goes downhill ! Such a shame for a great series. AFFC and DWD are great books, but not great as first three.
The fourth one is definitely my least favorite but the fifth one at least comes very close to the third one for me. All the cliff hangers at the end were probably driving readers crazy before the show caught up.
For me is:
1 SOS
2 GOT
3 FFC (I know a lot of people didn't like this book but I love the arc of the characters: Jaime burning the letter, Sam arriving to Old Town, Dorne and the Iron Throne tramas are awesome)
4 DWD
5 COK ( Arya arc is slow and Theon in this book it's the hardest POV to read, but Tyrion chapters are cool)