Hooty And King's Dad's Connection?! | New Owl House Info! (Post Hoot)
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• THE HOOTY HOLE THEORY ...
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro & Overview
0:55 King's Dad's Eye Is The Portal Door
1:11 Hunter Is Bi & Willow Is Pan
1:32 No Sequel, But They Have Hope
2:02 Every Voice Actor Came Back
2:52 Raine's Palisman
3:26 Flapjack & Evelyn
4:30 The Clawthrone's And Caleb & Evelyn
4:47 Raine Moved Into The Owl House
5:06 Alador And Odalia Got A Divorce
5:17 Glowing Eyes
6:16 Rat Alador Is Alador's Palisman
7:26 Small Other Things
7:40 Hooty & King's Dad?
10:16 Death Of The Author
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Thank you for the shoutout and linking The Hooty Hole Theory! Still trying to figure out what part was right myself... but I hope you enjoyed the video! Thanks for the recap! I needed to be sure I didn't dream it all (and i screamed over most of it) Not sure when I said it, but yeah, I had another theory Caleb accidentally made Hooty into the house, but I think that doesn't line up with the timeline. Thanks again! HOOT!
No problem man! I've been binging your content ever since and I LOVE the way you think about these shows. You really see things others don't and it's super fun to hear what you think. Can't wait to see more from you in the future!
I love your vids I'm buff hooty btw
@@ZeezVovGee2 when is the next owl house art contest video coming out
Hooty said himself that he's a worm demon... he literally admitted what he was; he's a parasitic worm that lives in Titans, but he talks and is fun to have around so I think the only reason his kind are tolerated by titans is because they befriend the Titans.
I bet if hooty was actually in the titans eye he either took it out himself, or went in after.
So it would be a (albeit weird) symbiotic relationship? Hooty (and whatever species he is) needs the wild magic to survive, and the titan(s) gets some form of companionship
I remember when I first heard Hooty was a bug demon, specifically a worm type, and knew that the Boiling Isles was basically a decomposing titan corpse. I was like "Oooh...lol that suits him so perfectly".
FRISK???!!
i legit thought of it like the appearance of carrion bugs such as maggots and beetles that occur when you leave a carcass in the woods.
I also personally think that demons arent necessarily spawned from our titan, and that much like carrion beetles and flesh flies, they jump from carcass to carcass, since theres bound to be occassional titan deaths even before the collector's kind got involved, titans are mortal so they play by mortal rules, even if its on a scale of millenia instead of years
When she said that Aladors palisman is based off of Remy, I was happy because I LOVE REMY THE RAT 🐀
The idea that the Bat Queen (aka the “one with amnesia” in my theory) is the one who built King’s tower literally makes me so warm and fuzzy inside
That could be why she asked Eda and King to watch her children, cause she knew King already and looked over him
@@Non-binaryCup well not exactly seeing as the person who built the tower specifically doesn’t remember it. Maybe it’s a subconcious trust? But i doibt it
About the amensia part, when Luz asks BQ about whose palisman she is, she answers she does not remember and in the Echo of the Past, you can see something looks like an interlock on the ceiling of King's room. So I think the one with amnesia might be the BQ.
They actually said that Raines palismans staff was the broken violin, the actual palisman wasnt damaged
So it means palismen don't need to be a staff but can be in other forms
@@hoquangminh8030 Yeah, like how Bumps palisman turns into a hat that allows him to see
@@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 i always forgot about that demon of his
@@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 Oh yeah, kinda forgot about that.
@@hoquangminh8030 we mustn't forget flora desplora and her classic boots whip
I think i speak for all of us when i say.....Thank God the finale didn't pull a SVTFOE!
What does that stand for?
@@bananadothesplit5322 I dunno
@@bananadothesplit5322me neither
@@bananadothesplit5322 it stands for Star vs the forces of evil.
@@leeladraws9595 ohhhhh, then I 100% agree
Personally I've always thought that the glowing eyes things was like a panic attack or a burst of adreline in a survival situation
Everyone’s asking how they got the titans eye, but I think a more important question is… why’s it so small?
decomposition
It's pretty clear now that titans can shift their size at will, maybe when the door was made the creator figured out how to get it to shrink down? Or maybe it was taken from the titan before he died when he was a smaller size.
Remember though, the scene where papa/mama titan is talking to Luz it's made somewhate evident they can be as big or small as they want, it's only after he transfers his powers to Luz that he reverts back to being full size
the real answer is plot convenience
It might be his literall spirit of his eye
I’m personally curious about how the portal door came to be, and how the Wittebane brothers got through it to the demon realm, and why they couldn’t get back to the human realm after. Also, what was it doing in the dirt when Eda first found it? I NEED ANSWERS!!! (Also a spin-off. I need that too. Desperately.)
Odds are Evelyn had it, so when Philip killed Caleb, it's not like she'd give him access to anymore.
I don’t need sleep. I need answers
i kinda want a caleb centered spinoff, maybe reprising hunter's and young eda's voice actors, even if its just a 40 minute special or 5 ep limited series. I bet theyd be so cute, and itd be a good opertunity to get those answers.
Also child philip being a petulant brat and antagonizing the pair in belos fashion.
We need a spin-off of the unanswered questions we all have!!
This is my one disappointment. I really thought there was gonna be at least a quick flashback about this plot line it feels unsolved
The fact that Aladors Palisman is a rat just makes me so happy. Also, I'm glad you were able to cover the post hoot as I was unable to make it
Hes just a rat guy i love it
I think I speak for majority of the fandom when I say that we need Disney to publish a luz’s scrapbook which will essentially be what journal 3, magic book of spells and marcy’s journal were to their respective shows
My question is like yes the portal door is the Titan's eye but how did Caleb/Evelyn/Philip get the eye?
Well, we saw Phillip could teleport to inside the Titan's skull.
@@theoneandonlyclayfanaticsu7395 like phillip did to his brother brother
and why is the portal eye that small like if its the titans eye shouldnt it be way bigger? or did he lost it at a young age?
@@PlumpyPig well its probably young age
@@patato1126 in which case, whoever built the door would've been alive before the titan was a corpse
WOOOO I KNEW IT! Ever since the finale and we saw that little Hooty in papa Titan’s eyesocket, I figured that means Hooty’s kind must be connected to them somehow and I figure “Mmm so is he a type of tapeworm for titans then?” I am just so glad Third Bill said this as I agree with his comment about Hooty being a parasite that feeds off Wild magic 9:17
Anyways this Post Hoot was great! A lot of answers to some pretty good questions; although the only two things that makes me sad about it is 1. No Gus related questions or any answers to some(my poor boy) and 2. Dana stating the “Death of the Author” thing is causing people who doesn’t like the fact Hunter & Willow are Bi4Pan are using it to say it’s not canon(even though she stated that they were written with that in mind+ Hunter having a Bi rainbow patch on his jacket in TTT).
Alador doing raptor hands when he's talking to odalia is so cute for some reason
The rat being Alador's palisman just cracks me up so much-
They just look so alike which is unusual for palismen 😂🤔
my real question is did gus ever finish his tunnel under hexide
"Alador and Odalia got a divorce"
Yes!!! Now Alador, Amity, Edric and Emira will finally have peace
Odalia more like 🗑
I just wonder how Old Hooty even is! Like was he alive during the Deadwardian era and such? Since Amity did imply House Demons can at least live for a couple thousand years (which feels like exceptionally old ones)
He was probably born wayy before that lol
I imagine he was born awhile ago, when the titan’s body was still kind of a fresh corpse, thus he could feed off of that
I think I figured out early on that eda was a descendant of Caleb because her entire family's Palisman line is birds, Del has a yellow version of flapjack (potentially a Canary), Gwendolyn has a hawk/eagle thing, Lilith has a white raven, Eda has an Owl, and the new generation adopted the Palismans of potentially murdered witches thanks to Belos, but birds...birds are Specific to the Clawthorns, no one else int he show has a bird Palisman besides Hunter.
So it was Papa Titan who made the portal door since the beginning
I thought that was obvious. He's missing an eye, and his eye looks like the portal door.
Either he built it, or someone removed his eye after his death and used it to make the door in a rather gruesome manner. Knowing the Boiling Isles, either is very possible
@@joshuamangnall Possibly even before his death
If hooty WAS part of the titan, that would mean that when he ate the envelope he didn’t do it out of funniness but instead to get it to king’s real dad, not the titan trappers
Me and my sister jokingly theorized that the owl house itself was a different dimension and hooty was a portal door
I don't think we'll ever truly know what Hooty is. And maybe it's better that way.
Also make sure to check out thethirdbill's channel. I've been watching his content recently and it's SO GOOD! If you like what I do, then you'll LOVE what he does so go watch him!
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My prediction is Hootie was some kind of parasite
He's a rat
We all know he's an Owl tube
@@ITealI hey teall
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The glowing eyes thing (5:21) with Willow, Gus, and Alador when they're powered up reminds me of how in Amphibia Anne's eyes go blue when she's powered up (and I don't mean just when she goes full super saiyan only) but like for example, in that one scene from the first episode where she was protecting Sprig and said "Do something!" or the time when she was like "Oh you just made a big mistake buddy" and her eyes glowed with her gem power color. And the same with Marcy and Sasha too. Like how Marcy's eyes temporarily glowed green when she saved Sprig from that giant ant thing. And it happened to Sasha too, like when she was trying her hardest to lift that heavy hammer thing.
So, hooty did get a voice line in watching and dreaming? WATCHING AND DREAMING IS FINALLY 10/10
It was already 10/10 its now 11/10
Hooty species are essential fleas to the titans 😂😂😂
I really like how Dana didn’t answer certain questions or go too deep into the shows previous plot lines prior to the shortening in hopes that they can be revived in some way later on. That way we’ve still got some actual mysteries with this show!
If Disney changes their minds anyway.
I still have a few questions that need answering😭
1. Who’s stronger between the Collectors/Archivists or the Titans?
2. Can Titans reproduce asexually?
3. Where do the Collector species come from, how did they come into being and how many are there?
4. What does the symbol on King’s collar really mean?
They invited tibbles for the bacon
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Glad to have confirmation that the portal door was the eye of King's dad. Hunter being bi and Willow being pan is fine. Nice that Raine moved into the owl house with Eda. Glad that Alador divorced Odalia, even though it was a given. It also makes sense for Hooty to have some connection with King's dad, especially since King's dad had something resembling Hooty on his missing eye. We definitely want more owl house content.
“Just roll with those headcanons” ….. YES. I ACTUALLY GET TO MAKE A BACKSTORY COMIC AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME.
I’m sick of the word “confirmed”
I can’t take it anymore. Nothing is confirmed. I will believe what I want to believe
The owl house getting the comics similar to what my little pony gen 4 did oml that would be amazing I loved those comics!
Tbh im pretty sure (havent watched video yet btw) that King's Dad's appearance is just like this as first cause its a figment of Luz's mind. What he becomes afterward when he sinks into the inbetween is his real look, The Titan of the Boiling Isles.
Edit: Random thing but, being "The son of the Boiling Isles" is such a cool title right?
Okay so I have a theory:
So you know when Phillip said “It took me years to find glyphs! It was like the titan didn’t want me to discover them” because I think that how the Titan ‘chose’ Luz to be the chosen one from the human real. I think that he chose Phillip to be the chosen one but when he was using his powers for evil he tried to stop him from getting power (like to not showing him more glyphs, and keeping the Collector hidden) and I think that the titan put the curse on Phillip because he thought that would stop him from being evil but his plan failed and he chose a new chosen one aka Luz to save the human world/the boiling isles
I’m pretty sure Evelyn is the one who cursed him, in hallow mind, we can see a portrait of a witch that looks like Eda only with short dark reddish hair (Evelyn) pointing her finger at Philip forming what seems to be a spell circle, which hits belos. I’m guessing she cursed him because she saw and knew he killed Caleb, so she did it out of anger and spite
this whole thing still sits really wonky in my head. like, I thought a core message of the show was that chosen ones don't exist, and you have to "choose yourself" and they even try to tie that back in when she meets the titan but. she didn't choose herself. the titan chose her. luz is a chosen one
@@sukaisage she both was and wasnt unlike a proficy which is gurenteed the titan just let her find the glyps it was still her choice to learn and use them to there fullest and for good the titan just made a good choice
im not sure if you have mentioned this in your video, but in the post hoot dana talked about someone who had amensia that made kings castle (i think), i have a theory that THE BAT QUEEN MADE THE TOW ED FJE
Eda and Raine... Very Good Roommates 🤣🤣🤣
Such a great Post Hoot! Thanks for making this recap, much easier to share with friends than my frantic notes! 😆 Haha
I like the use of the Pokémon Battle Revolution music! That game has a lot of stellar tracks that get overshadow by the beloved Stadium & Colosseum games.
Man i really hope they release the string beab staff snd shoulder pal dana and rhe other dude has
Yessss
He’s a type of Demon to follow the king of demons
Hooty being a parasite (?) makes sense to me in the way that he’s a worm. maybe he feeds on the titan like a worm, maggot or some other decomposer does.
What if, Hooty is the worm owl thingy in King's father's eye, that Hooty thingy is not present in the Titan's Eye socket, so maybe that thing somehow made it to the Owl House. Since it is mentioned that Hooty is like a parasite to the Titan which needs or is always connected to it.
Also people kinda mention hooty being potentially thousands of years old, so it would make sense.
Quick qestion: is Grometheus still inside of the tree? Why does his name sound so similar to Prometheus?
Prometheus happens to have been a titan! For bringing fire to humans from Olympia, Prometheus was bound to a rock for eternity. Although unlike Grometheus, Prometheus was eventually rescued by Heracles. Do what you will with that
@@splendidsaplings3015 grom is actually a titan confiormed 😱😱😱😱 /s
So a thing I've been hearing where there's more then one way to make a baby for the witches could be true until Dana says otherwise?
. . . Does that actually mean Luz and Amity could have a biological child when they're ready???
=D
That's actually pretty cool, not gonna lie. =)
Now im even more scared because when hooty was dressed up as belos he yelled "I AM YOUR GOD!"
I just noticed when Philip is holding the knife that he has six fingers behind his back 9:32
No the last finger looks like the handle of the knife
Woo! Hooty!!
Hooty is my favorite character ❤ I would love a Hooty parasite
no but the tapeworm idea is so funny and I thought of that idea as well when I saw Hooty in the titan's eye socket
*I always wondered why there was a little hooty in his eye*
Interesting, funny, and cool vid. I like that Alador’s palisman is a Rat like Remey from the movie.
Great Vid I love your channel Bro!
The fact thzt someone said in the live vid chat "IM SO STUPID WHOS AMNESIA"
I didn't even know that Alador had a palisman of his own. I mean, he's first of all an inventor. And i don't think you need a palisman for science works. Oh well. I'm also very glad that he divorced Odalia. She was horrible.
Somehow it makes sense tho especially since it a literal lab rat (yes I just got the joke)
I mean students at hexide could be given the option to get their own palisman so he may have gotten his as a future lab assistant since it is possible to cast abomination spells n stuff with a palisman. And honestly, considering his shit marriage left him constantly drained and isolated the palisman is also useful as companionship
Edit: the last point don't need to mean much, I just love the idea of him having an emotional support rat, the more I look into it the funnier it gets
My theory is that hooty is a parisite that lives in titans and someone hooty managed to survive while when the titans became extinct they all died because the didn’t have a host it also makes sense in a way that hooty sensed kings presence so he came there I don’t know anymore t but that’s my theory!
Wow ur channel is growing quickly cg!!
this was awesome video glad to hear some things confirmed
Wait what if
Titan made key with his eye
Hooty helped make the door portal suitcase?
huh, I thought Hooty was like a visual catalyst made by the Titan to help keep an eye on things or acts like Wormwood (Gentleman Corpse) in some way.
Great vid!
Now imagine papa titan just seeing a parasite that infected him is one of his son's friend
what's weird is that amity talked about house demons like their common in knocking hooties door
Its great were getting answers to these questions.
Hi I just watched this, it was such a good video!
HOOT HOOT THERES A HOOT EVERYWHERES A HOOT HOOT
*HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT*
Yay new video! :D
I love your work you're my favourite UA-camr your the best!
Hunter likes men… this is the best possible timeline
OH YES THE POST HOOT
I WATCHED SOME OF IT-
Hooty more like hotty
Well this is shocking thanks for telling.
I find the Death of the Author comments very interesting. I might finally get into theory-making
This was interesting info.
Love the video
In my opinion I think that hooty and the owl beast are entities or species that predate the boiling isles. The fact that the owl beast is shown to be caught by one of the archivists is a pretty bit of evidence for this. If hooty is a sort of parasite to titans it would certainly support this idea since they share a design look. You can chock it up to design choice but to me that’s the best explanation for the intrinsic alien nature of the owl beast and hopty’s deeply strange everything
Love ur vids
my head cannon is that witches are decended from human/beped demon crosses, since witches look human but share a number of traits with biped demons.
Also that biped demons inherited a lesser form of titan magic, and thats why bilesack magic works like a grosser analogue to titan magic.
I love this channel
If there's another Post Hoot, I wanna know if Hunter made everyone who used to be in the Emperor's Coven new Palisman (especially Steve, he seemed so sad about having to give up his previous one)
HOOTY HOOT POST HOOT
Wait so when luz blew up the portal luz blew up papa titans severed eye
Luz's parents met at a convention change my mind.
Finally, someone making a video asking the real and serious question that I want answers to 🤣
God hooty
I feel like Hootie being a Titan parasyte means that his species existed before the Titan meaning he's a special demon. This would also mean he's possibly one of the strongest creatures on the Isles, not even Lilith or the Emperors covin could stop him. The only time he had a problem was against collectors
I might have a theory where flapjack is a palismen either carved or given by Evelyn to Caleb as a gift of some sorts and flapjack’s scar might be an attempt to try save Caleb from a slash by Philip but got knocked after the slash and Philip hit Caleb killing him and after that Evelyn and flapjack flew away to safety and hundreds of years later coming to hunter to be his palismen and if someone thinks I have missed something that makes this make more sense or doesn’t work reply below
hOLD UP - hunter being bi!! makes me!! so dang happy!!!! finding out one of my main comfort characters is bi like i am is so gosh dang sweet!! and willow being pan?? i used to identify as pan, so her being pan AND another of my comfort characters is just an added bonus :'D
Funny Rat
hi ZEEZ!!
Edit: I realized mid video Dana has a string bean on her neck lol
This is a certified hooty moment!
I’d love to see an Owl House art book!
2:36 this is incorrect it's supposed to be a flaming trash can not a normal trash can
Thank for the info. I wish The owl house isn't over😢
I thought hooty was like apart of a species who lives closely with titans and each titan has their own hooty to grow alongside lol
When I watched the finale my first thought was also the mini hooky is how papa titan has watched king grow up like hooky is looking glass
as someone who doesnt watch the owl house, your a perfect youtuber
heres my unhinged hooty theory. the hooty coming from the titan's eye? small right? okay now imagine that little hooty coming out of the eye of the titan's physical _corpse,_ and that its proportionally the same size as it was when the titan met luz.
that would be a _big_ hooty wouldnt it? and hey, hooty DID mention having a mother, taking offense to king's rude dancing...
_the truth is out there, spread the news, Big Hooty real_
I can very much imagine big hooty dying with the dying titan. Parasites usually try not to kill their hosts, because they would also die. I like to think that Titan was infected and over the years came along better and better with hooty senior before hooty senior dies before them as the Titans dying body can't support the parasite anymore.
I feel like hooty is somehow even worse then Philip but doesn't do anything because he has no reason to