The infamous and ingenious Ho Chi Minh Trail - Cameron Paterson
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
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The Ho Chi Minh Trail not only connected North and South Vietnam during a brutal war but also aided Vietnamese soldiers. The trail shaved nearly five months of time off of the trip and was used as a secret weapon of sorts. Cameron Paterson describes the history and usage of the infamous trail.
Lesson by Cameron Paterson, animation by Maxwell Sørensen.
The Viet people in my eyes are definitely one of the most resilient and resourceful people I know about. It truly astonishes me what they were and are still capable of during such a difficult time in their history. They are a people to be admired and respected.
lies
@@ultrachad1928 sure.
@@ultrachad1928 ok us imperialst
ahhh hehe im shy, thanks anyway
Thank you so much! God bless you Sir
When I think of Vietnam, I get hungry, because the food is absolutely delicious beyond this world.
+Johan E In the South east Asia, I prefer Thai food..... just saying
+valeriesze Why not both?
toahordika6 no way, Thai food is still the best to me
+valeriesze It once made me vomit. Sorry.
Fluffy the Not so Digilant Cat Guard You mean Thai food? Oh, so sorry bout that. what a bad luck !
I had fun creating this lesson. Much of the information comes from my 2007 Premier's History scholarship to interview veterans in Vietnam. Most of what we see and read about the war comes from the Western perspective, so I tried to represent a North Vietnamese view of the conflict as well. I think Maxwell, the animator, has done an incredible job, very clever.
I know this is a very late reply, but thank you and the animator for the video. It was very informative and nice to watch.
Thank you! You are very awesome!
This video is about what people can achieve, not about ideology or which side is good or bad.
+Pham Huy Anh communism is the good side though
+J Nichols : well, "communism" itself is just a concept of a society which is originally described as something good by the authors, indeed. In reality, our country (Vietnam) for example, it means a good goal to achieve , generally. But if you ask an "murica" about it, it sure is an "evil" thing...
+Pham Huy Anh communism is like star wars, a sweet , beautiful dream, but alas, only a dream. sleep now sweet prince...
+Pham Huy Anh Are people in your country happy ? Is it corrupt ?
Resh Mant well, it is hard to measure happiness of people. But I think they are happy. Of course there are many people leaving the country looking for a wealthier destination, but there also people from rich countries staying here.
As for corruption, I think there is more than developed countries and less democratic (obviously). But people are get used to it ( in fact, the majority don't care much).
Conclusion: don't worry about communism/capitalism shit, the country is ok comparing to (at least ) France, USA, Thailand, Malaysia (just to name a few countries I have stayed in)
I cried happily after seeing this.
Don't really know what people around the world think about Vietnam's history, but at least I know 250k people watched how we survived, that's enough. And..maybe I chose the wrong word "survive", it's still my true feelings about wars, especially in many small countries, like Viet Nam.
Nam Ngô Nhất i just pity the vietnamese people especially southern supporters..
Nam Ngô Nhất how about million of people killed by communists who did not survive?
Suvé Sadique
They overthrew a democratic and capitalist country to force communism onto everyone even though the South didn't want to be Communist. By the mid 80's Vietnam had realized that communism was more or less a failure and capitalism made a comeback, but the government only became mildly more free.
At the end of the day, the war was useless.
The not true.You dont understand to Viet Nam history.At that time more than 80% of Vietnamese chose to follow President Ho Chi Minh. Ho Chi Minh was the one who had put Vietnam out of French colonialism for 100 years,not Republic of Viet Nam, should be noted that the French colonial regime was a brutal regime. Ho Chi Minh had requested American help for Vietnam's independence. But instead of helping Vietnam, the president and the US government then chose to help the French ally to keep the French under control Viet Nam.The Vietnamese hoped for independence, wishing for a democratic election. South Vietnam and the United States disagreed because they knew they would lose if the election took place. The United States and the Republic of Vietnam are the ones who impose the thought on us.
binh thai
That is an interesting perspective. Still, wouldn't it have made more sense to simply split the country permanently if the south primarily wished to be different politically?
Given its great significance in the 20th century, I am surprised that TED Ed does not have any other video on the Vietnam War.
Too much controversies
are you aware of the fact that many Americans , especially the government, are still bitter of this event?
@@ducman1611 I do, they wouldn't even say they lost the war, just that they didn't win (if the gods are kind on us, we might see an American pounces on here to explain just how they didn't lose). However, TEDed often does a very good job on covering all grounds (e.g. they did more than two videos on life as a Roman), so I was just surprised.
Went to Vietnam last year. Saw tha chu chi tunnels (sorry if misspelt) it was amazing how resilient and hardworking the people were. No words can describe my admiration for this amazing country with the friendliest people and great food. They are simply great
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"Cu Chi". Thank for came to vietnam
thank you friend, it's 'Củ Chi tunnels"
viva Ho Chi Minh!!!
one of the greatest revolutionary of all time
@@ultrachad1928 prevent what? They was fighting for independency and unification. After US failed, communism didn't spread to anywhere. "Domino theory" didn't happen.
Cody Breaker It became the poorest because the war has just ended and Vietnam went to war again against China in 1980s
Cody Breaker before the war ended America destroyed most of the southern land by Agent Orange, causing million of deaths and those who survived got infected by some ridiculous diseases that pass down to generations. And now you wonder why we are poor???? Maybe u should ask the US that question about napalm bomb and all that stuff
@SgtBaker16 and you the khmer separatists' tool
@@ucnguyenanh9414 HOW DO YOU KNOW THE HE'S CAMBODIA!
long live uncle ho
I don't read comments/replies,but not long live communism!!!.
O7
Viêt Hoa nhé 😁
@@joehalliday6081 Laos and Cambodia as well as us Vietnam, all three Indochinese countries were divided into two camps between communist and capitalist. We help each other in the fight to win. Vietnam was bombed, so did Laos and Cambodia. The war in which the United States was so cowardly that it had to drop a million bombs to win and the result is a real waste of public condemnation.
@@joehalliday6081 wow, so you donot ask to use bomb but you should ask to use a road.
Also, Japanese defeat was inevitable as the soviets were rapidly advancing towards korea anyway. The chinese had already defeated the japanese in the battle for shangai. The chinese would easily win in the war of attrition.
I am from Vietnam and I I'm so proud that Ted-ed gave a talk about Vietnam
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my uncle was dead in the war of freeing Southern Vietnam, and until know his mother (my grandma) has been getting care from Vietnamese government. Eventhough the care they give her is not so big (as the country is not so rich), but it shows that people who contributed to the war are recognized. And tell your grandpa that he should be proud to be a part of the war to heal Vietnam!
My grandmother's brother was trinh quang quyet a car driver died of a disease when freeing southern vietnam
I'm kinda disappointed not to hear about the overloaded bicycles, but I guess that was more common practice in the beginnings, against the French.
The bicycles played a big roles in the fight with French in Dien Bien Phu battle. But in the war with US, Vietnam got support a lot from China and Russia, so truck is a more popular solution. The distance is also much greater which cannot be solved by the bicycles alone.
The overloaded bicycles were used against the French in the Battle of Dien Bien Phu because they are human powered and thus can scale great amounts of supplies (200 kg each) up steep mountains on narrow unpaved trails, which even modern day's trucks can't, and the battle was fought in a mountain range.
The Vietnam War was different. The Americans fought a well-supplied power backed by both the Soviet Union and China (helping Vietnam win is possibly the only issue those 2 could agree on during the Sino-Soviet split), and that's why they didn't invade the North, they didn't want to fight both the Soviet and the Chinese because their best scenario was mutually assured destruction (both side having nearly 100k nuclear warheads each). The only issue is to support the war effort of the forces and guerrillas down south, and with the trail, it's a done deal.
@@xyzno1cancer wow really informative. Thank you
Who's Vietnamese here?
+Truong Ngoc Minh Chau Me.
+Truong Ngoc Minh Chau you
+Truong Ngoc Minh Chau sup
my name said quite a bit
me too
favourite part 3:04. "bomb this for us please..... Thank you very much"... :D
Lol :D
yeah....very clever.
lmao
Like:"wait for it.....wait for it.....Yay!"
somebody definitely used The Art of War to their advantage
Love to Vietnam❤
Brave people who sacrificed everything to protect their nation and their future
Their future was never in danger they had a country of their own but they wanted to steal the South.
I will visit this trail one day! I live in Hanoi and heard stories of it all my lifetime. Truth be told the Ho Chi Minh sandals are the most durable pair of footwear ever, you will need to walk a lifetime on concrete to wear it out.
Nike sells billions from shoes that have a short life span, need to be replaced, from which Southeast Asia is benefitting in the form of jobs, jobs, jobs. A company that makes shoes that never wear out will not last long and will not employ many people to raise their standard of living. The same is true for cars, phones, technology, anything you can think of. I don't understand how you think this "truth" is something you would repeat.
@@joehalliday6081 BS
@@globalnetizen956 Really? How many billion-dollar companies in Southeast Asia, or anywhere, still make sandals of old tires? Go back to playing video games young grasshopper.
@@joehalliday6081 Keep talking BS old fart.
@@globalnetizen956 Bruh….Put down the steam inspired game controller in your left hand and the blow filled vape in your right. Stand up and push away your custom made gaming chair with optional vibration and stereo surround sound headrest. Now climb the stairs of your mother’s basement and exit the back door to her backyard garden and breathe in the fresh air. Hear those roosters crowing? Now go to the market on your Chinese made scooter and haggle with the lady in the stall selling chicken feet and stuffed squirrel for some extra fish sauce.
So many veteran trolls with too much spare time ^^
Stop it folks, this video just comments on military achievements and how it happened, it's not anywhere near propaganda -.-
It fails to mention that the Trail helped them in the war.. But WASN'T what "unified" the country.. Peace was signed in 73'.. Then in 75', 2 years later and with NO US troops.. The Peace Agreement was Broken...
The US won their war. the South Vietnamese lost.
Kinda like if the US was to leave Korea.... And then If the North swoops in..two years later.. Whoops! the US lost the Korean War....
History is fun
WTF? No US troops? then where were thousand of military advisors and CIA spies before evacuation of American in Saigon when SV failed?
Quý Quyền They were just some small troops, they protected some US offices in the South :))))) CIA or sth like that cant be used for war :)))
nguyen pham thien an But they has been used as a tool for war, in indirect way though
@@phishENchimps Did you read this 73's peace accord?? That let the north maintain all their troops and lands they had in the south, while the US had to retreat with no guarantees, that was not a peace treaty that was a cease fire! It lasted for less than a month, what a joke! The US lost in 1973, and the South in 1975!
Taking your Korean analogy, that would be the same that the US had signed a treaty with North Korea, giving them 1/3 of the South, with military access and withdraw of all US and Allied troops in South Korea, in exchange for some prisoners and that the North recognized the South as a Country. Guess what that ''peace'' won't last very long!
The US was blinded by ragr against Communism that it overlooked ethics and opportunity in many places during this era: Vietnam, Cuba, and Korea most deeply.
I appreciate this brilliant insight into the Vietnamese response and this lesson on using simple tactics and simple resources to ensure great struggle and overcome
It was never about communism. That was just an excuse used by imperialists and capitalists to penetrate new markets.
Free market capitalism caused more famines in 19th century than at any other time in recorded history. Western Europeans had enough to eat (except the Irish) and the people in colonies starved by tens of millions.
There's only 1 author who covered this is recent memory - Mark Davis. He wrote the book on it, "Victorian Holocausts".
You don't hear about these famines today because of how powerful the propaganda is. Nobody knows that capitalist Germans starved to death 5 million Slavs and Jews on the Eastern Front by way of deliberate policy (Der Hungerplan) and how they projected that 20-30 million would die.
Oh, I'm so proud to be a Vietnamese 🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳
I very proud about my country and also,I proud about my grandfather.He is a pilot works for Vietnamese Army.I love you so much,grandpa!
Good video with some cool animation but it leaves a lot out. Most importantly even though it is always referred to as the Ho Chi Minh "trail" it is actually a network of many intersecting trails that ran North to South. So when the US bombed one trail they would simply bypass the bombed out section and use a different section while laborers repaired the bombed section. This way it never really stopped it was always in action. Also the video fails to touch on the large infrastructure involved like the supply points and medical areas that were dotted along the trail or the ingenious method the Vietnamese used to harness bikes to carry large amounts of supplies. Lastly the video could have dived deeper into the United States' other methods of trying to stop the trail aside from just bombing like Special Forces raids, use of chemicals to make it muddier, (I kid not) listening devices and the controversial use of defoliants.
yeah totally agree
Quite agree with your statement, and the network of many intersecting trails that you mentioned, it is called "herringbone line".
When NVA won the war and they entered the room that used to be a meeting room of the US/ARVN, they saw a very detailed map of the HCM trail, the US and ARVN had the map in hand all along but still failed destroying it. The reason? All existed maps was intentionally made with few kilometers falsified, in which direction? Only NVA leaders knows.
Vietnam War teaches us one thing : Aggressors will fall. All extremely powerful nation could fall.
Today,America is extremely strong. Tomorrow,America could be Vietnam's puppet.
North Vietnam were the original aggressors. The Southern Vietnamese public didnt want to start another war, going through the French & Japanese previously.
They still hold a grudge over the lost till this day, and have "racial" slurs to the Northern Vietnamese people.
Your tomorrow must be far. And America's not aggressor they just backed for the republic of Vietnam, like what the international communist do with the north. AND the Southen people weren't aggressive, violent like the poor people who were poisoned by communism in the north. They love peacefulness, have humanity and "America's plan" so they lost
@@idontcare1864 well, they didn't back for South Vietnam , they just thought of a reason to invade Vietnam easier and create more heroic symbols of American Army but actually they are bloody tyrants and their greed never stops as today they steps in many other midwest countries political activities and conflicts without any agreement.
@@idontcare1864 How about you research what the Americans did to the vietnamese people. Its quite appalling and proves that they weren't fighting the war for Vietnam, they just wanted to beat the Russians
I am a Vietnamese people. I'm so happy and proud after seeing the video.I really love my country. Thank you so much Ted
This is not a trail but a great cross-border military construction, once considered by the US military as "one of the great achievements of military technology in the 20th century".
During the 15 years from 1959 to 1975, the road existed a total of nearly 6000 days and nights, a total of 120,000 manpower including engineers, youth volunteers made the traffic network runs along the Truong Son range.
In total, Truong Son Road has 5 axes running along and 21 horizontal axes, connecting the East with the West Truong Son, reaching each battlefield and nearly 20,000 km long.
In addition, to secure the huge logistics convoy, Truong Son Road also has 1,400 km of gasoline pipes and even more than 3,000 km of sealed Truong Son Road, allowing cars to move in. daytime.
During the period from 1965 to 1972, the US mobilized 733,000 aircraft of all kinds, performed 152,000 bombing missions and threw down the Truong Son Road a total of 4 million tons of bombs. In addition, the US also launched scouts, commandos to spy and point for aircraft to strike along this route.
However, vietnamese still transported more than 1 million tons of weapons and goods from the North to each battlefield, maneuvered 10 divisions, 3 corps and escorted 90 technical units into the battle.
Its so refreshing when you find an informative, UNBIASED video on the Vietnam War. Thanks!
And shout out to the heroes of the Vietnam War
Lol. When my father started to work at the Autonomous University of Barcelona (Catalonia) in 1988 the nearest station was like 10 minutes away and they had to walk through a forest section which they called the Ho Chi Minh route :D
During the Vietnam War, the official military purpose of Agent Orange was to defoliate forest trees so that the guerrilla troops of the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam had nowhere to hide. The US military and the South Vietnamese army sprayed 76.9 million liters of chemicals into the forests and fields of Vietnam, especially this trail area. It is terrible.
It's been over 50 years since that occurred and there are no hazards left. Get over it.
@@joehalliday6081 But can the infected people get over it? U said?
@@PhongLan315 How many infected people are still alive? This took place over 50 years ago and if it was so toxic, they would be dead by now or they would have survied and gotten over it. Maybe they were eaten by a lion or hit by a car before the orange could have an effect. Do you have some survival rates that you can quote?
@@joehalliday6081 what about their children? They got infected when they were born and have to live with it.
@@PhongLan315 Do you have some infection rates?
Thank you, this video made history easy to remember and it was done with good research. The information is presented clearly, in a very logical way.
i watched a documentary of the north Vietnam general taking over a french base and it was ingenous
I am so happy for my country for being strong. Beating up a huge enemy is a great feat
I love Vietnam and it’s people..it’s such a beautiful country from top to bottom..
Thank you. I am a Vietnamese and i am very prond about that road. My grandfather is a soldier, he used to across there to go to warzone.
Can you speak Vietnamese
This Malaysian here stands in solidarity with Vietnam in the fight against imperialism and colonialism! Southeast Asian Pride!
@@joehalliday6081 shut up
@@helmsylvanian you shut up and leave ppl alone
Don't like Communism
But i am real Anti Colonialist
Throughout this video, i can understand how much my ancestors had sacrificed for our independence. I really appreciate their efforts.
I'm astounded by that amazing editing
This is my history teacher 😂😂😂 showed us this in class
Thank TEDEd for making this! Greeting from Vietnam ;)
A vietnamese ex-soldier in Da Lat told me that Viet Cong planted, harveted and replanted taro along the trail to help with nutrition. Allowed them to souce food without needing to carry the food with them.
Thank you for creating such a great video. All of my kids, especially Caleb, love it.!
Wow, this is amazing!
They used to tie the tops of trees together to hide roads from planes. Some truck convoys went without lights at night. The drivers had their routes memorized so well they didn't need um.
Tự hào khi là một người con đất Việt. Và cũng thật biết ơn biết bao khi bản thân được sinh sống trong thời hòa bình😊
Now this is a short sharp shock to understanding great people in history. Thank you
I am proud to be a Vietnamese son, carrying a heroic red blood with an indomitable spirit. I love Vietnam, love the people here.
I believe the truly saddest thing is that many Americans don't know this.
2:25 For foreigners, Russia-the USSR and Russian-red, and the fact that the USSR was composed of 15 republics with their own language does not bother anyone.
I just learned about this yesterday in my US history class. I'm going to show this video to my teacher. :)
Thank you. It is really nice to get such positive feedback on this forum.
I'm proud to be a Vietnamese. And btw,very interesting video!
My enemies are many, my conquerors are none.
In the fields of Laos and Cambodia, they said that the French Empire would last.
In the Plateaus of South China, they said that China would rule all of East Asia
In the Deep Jungles, they said that the American War Machine could never be beaten
Now they say nothing.
They fear me, like a force of nature, a dealer in guerrilla warfare.
And I say, I am Vietnam.
I am unconquerable!
Thank you very much From Laos🇱🇦
i feel so proud right now for being vietnamese
Well considering the Tet offensive was one of the greatest backstabs in modern history I'd rethink that opinion. Then again it is your right to love your country.
Nah it's ok the American bombed Ha Nội in Christmas eve too, orange agent, my lai massacre, etc.
That's nice, but I think it goes without saying that if the north lost and the country stayed away from communism, either in entirety or just in the south, Vietnam would be in a VASTLY better place economically right now.
The experiment has already been played out for the world to see. Look at North Korea vs. South Korea.
TheJordanChronicles if the north didn't attack then vietnam would still be under france's control and the role of the colony is to enrich the motherland
First of all, your logic is flawed. But more importantly, France gave up all colonies decades ago. There is no way Vietnam would still be under France's control in any scenario.
Amazing
What a fascinating topic, however I believe that there are ways for it to be delivered better.
Starting with the narrator, he did not sound too interested in the Details that make the "man-made" Trail so incredible.
Try to read slower and absorb the written words.
Thanks!
thì người ta phải neutral thôi em :))
Extremely interesting. Thanks.
Thanks, I learnt something new today - just now actually
+TED-ed not by Russia. By the Soviet Union
Soviet Union is fucking Russia
Soviet Union and Russia are interchangeable terms when talking about history. Both terms are correct.
The Soviet Union included Russia so certainly using the USSR to refer to Russia would be correct but Russia does not encompass all the land that the USSR did so I think it would be incorrect to say Russia = USSR
Also many Soviet politicians were not Russians.
I am so proud because I'm Vietnamese:))))
Thank you for your clarification.
I love these videos
i proud of my country , i love people, culture, land escape, 2000 years of history, I want say to China :" we won China during 1000years, and now we can win again, Hoang Sa & Truong Sa belong to Viet Nam not China"
The world is with you, Vietnam.
The guy narrating sounded like he had zero interest in the video.
N.I. McClusky I think he's just being casual so that the visuals of the video play a larger role.
Yeah, thanks. I didn't mean to sound boring, was trying to come across as objective.
Hi Cameron, please sound all the coming vids, I hate the cracking voice of the other guy....
He explained it in a professional way.
Was was not either depressed or hyped.
It's called an Australian accent
Great! That's what TEdEd is all about!
We, Vietnamese, are really appreciate this work. I've just brownsed Facebook and found this on a Graphic Page. Thanks to that, now I know Ted-Edu. But Oop! Wrong year Mr.Cameron Peterson, The Genever Conference was set up in 1954.
Germany in 1940: Leader, the Enemy forces have repeatingly bombed and fortified our only way to our target, what do we do?
The leader: Just go around it.
Vietnam in 1963: Leader, the Enemy forces have repeatingly bombed and fortified our only way to our target, what do we do?
The Leader: Just go around it.
2:43
They Say “When The Trees Speak Vietnamese”
But It’s Really Just A Guy Sitting On A Tree Exposed
a veteran
@@thangle1946 you’re a veteran of the PAVN or NLF?
@@yetkieuz no I just know to spot a veteran, respect to you, take the experience and forget the pain
@@thangle1946 I’m not a veteran tho 😂
thanks for this video
wow are you gonne do this for atlantic wall aswell?
2:25 why Russia? USSR at that time!
They are a league at that time and until now their relationship still going good.
Bursting into song? Soo like Disney princesses?
i think there were many of the soldiers are musicians, and they spent those days traveling on the trail to write songs of hope. when they arrived in the south, those hopes became true, and those songs were sung in happiness. we have countless songs about the war, mostly to make the soldiers feel better, but they became masterpiece, even until now.
Uhmmm no the song serve like a morale boost for the soldier they sing it more frequently on the trail not just when they reached the end
Whitney lps Productions
More like "I don't know, but I've been told" singing than "Someday my prince will find me"
Như có Bác Hồ trong ngày vui đại thắng... =)))
KHÔNG CÓ KÍNH KHÔNG PHẢI VÌ XE KHÔNG CÓ KÍNH!!
best TED ever
Such a great testament to the human spirit.
Not only did Vietnam get attacked by Australia, America, South Korea and Japan BUT after the war Vietnam saved the Cambodian people from Pol Pot who China backed
STOP THIS. my cats getting flashbacks of nam.
sorry for my english is not good,
This video lacks much information,
not only HCM trail is a road but also it is a system of way on land and sea, and not only to transfer people, weapons but also fuel and information networks.
Vietnam had many unique ways of traveling on that road and despite knowing the existence of that trails for 10 years, the US military and Saigon army still know only a very small part of the road.
Dear @Ted-Ed, can y'all please do a video about the infamous Trail of Tears please? It's a story very close to my heart because I am part Cherokee and I feel like it's a story that needs to be told. Please get all your information from the family's of the survivors because we will give you the best information.
To the angry Americans here. Blame our government for even entering this war and propping up a Catholic Dictator in the South of Vietnam.
I'm pround of my nation
after I read your comment I have realized I waste my time to read it :))
RedDragonAwakens They defeat the 1º military power on Earth, show more respect xD
RedDragonAwakens Trolls being trolls. -10/10.
RedDragonAwakens Learn proper English please.
I love the way how the Vietnamese fought for their independence, splitted into two sides by major powers yet reunify at the end. It made my country war for independence seems easy. -From your fellow SEA nation
my grandpa talked about python eating soldiers in the jungle too, people are bored so they play with machine guns and got shot/died. the jungle is so thick that day light does not pass through and it is always night time, and spiders dropping from tree top on soldiers' heads, also slippery bamboom stick to avoid gorrila taking hold of your hands and eat you, he said the gorrila hold your hand and laugh, then they eat you, there is also a way to avoid napalm burn that is rolling on the mud but the urine becomes gasoline, the only way to survive is to observe, be intuitive and suspect everything that is out of norm, my grandpa was during the raid of dien bien phu too, he said the artilery does not shoot in curved trajectory but pointed directly to the ground hence the force is tremendous
A good description about ....
This video is about military tactics not who was right or wrong. Military tactics either work or don't. We lost the war because imo because the politicians didn't let the military leaders lead, half of the U.S. military was people who were drafted and didn't want to be there, and the military leaders that did lead was fighting with tactics of the last war they won, ww II which doesn't work in the jungles of Vietnam.
+Gregory Yarbrough Korea: the forgotten war :p
+CyberChrist :) but technically they didn't win the Korean war.
Clad_in_shadows
They say they won it, therefore they won it ;)
Excuses
VietNamese round here?🙋🏼♀️
After watching this video, I feel so proud of my country... Vietnam!
Best Video Ever!
I've studied this piece of history a great deal and I'm still learning. The US didn't lose in Vietnam. At least not in the way that the French lost. The French were defeated and many French were killed and captured. They had no choice but to leave. For the US, it was very different.
Vietnam won the war for 2 basic reasons because the US refused to defeat them (but for good reasons):
1. The USSR and China were backing Vietnam and aside from the billions in weaponry and financial support, the US KNEW it did not want WWIII (at least not over Vietnam). Thus, North Vietnam would never be invaded by the US and even bombings in the North weren't at the scale that would have caused them to surrender as the US didn't want to kill Russians or Chinese during bombings runs so targets were chosen carefully.
2. The communists (or revolutionaries) simply never stopped fighting. The US kept winning its objectives throughout the war by killing a bunch of people and declaring victory and the enemy forces just kept coming back. The US wasn't prepared to fight until the bloody end, but the Vietnamese were. For all intensive purposes, the US totally stopped the communists and caused so much damage that it took 2 years for the North to regroup and invade the South in 1975. To be logical, the US was invading a far away country (yes invading) and when you come into someone's home uninvited, the master of the house has a lot more to lose than you.
nope , America will never defeat us, we have fought throughout the 20th century and the long history of struggle is still there. We will fight for the freedom and independence of our children and grandchildren to the last drop of blood. Think about 1000 years of Chinese domination in history as we stand up fighting like now. And even more, the Mau Than we lost, but it was a political victory in the Soviet Union that we could still win. And they gave us weapons, no one for free, because we have diplomatic diplomatic leadership.
Your country lost really because of political loses and lost on the face of force, then you retreated tactics to cover the truth you lost, you cost billions of dollars just to hire soldiers and Although more than 100 years we will still fight it is the Vietnamese people we so anyone who we are willing to die country, do not think that your country is justice, the You killed all children like My Lai or the mercenaries of Korea murdered our nation
America's war in Vietnam was in no way just or right. Vietnam won the war, but it was America's war to lose. If the US had disregarded the possibility Russian or Chinese involvement, it could have invaded the North. Even used nuclear weapons. This is very different from what the US really did. Instead the US simply tried to protect the South by waiting for attacks and killing people. Because few Vietnamese wanted America to stay, there was (understandably) very little loyalty to the US. Thus, it became a game of cat and mouse in the South and the US often resorted to mass killing to win. Vietnam won because they were willing to wage total war, while the US only waged limited war. The French on the other hand simply ran out of resources and had no choice other than surrender.
Americans lost 1 battle but they won the big war. Look at Soviet Union and the comunism countries. The big boss was dead and the other country, most of them are poor.
nguyen viet hoang you forgot China
I like your idea.
Ummm... If the main objective was only to beat the North Vietnam, the US could have just turned Hanoi into Hiroshima, but there must have been other factors so that the US hadn't done that.
+Anonymous71475 US did not do that because it would have led to a global nuclear war with USSR which was supporting the North. Secretary of Defense at the time Robert McNamara admits it in his autobiography that US leadership was not ready to go for even a full scale conventional bombing over the North (which they did go for later but by then it was too late).
Anil Pratap
Make sense...
+Anonymous71475 it's illegal and immoral to nuke a country because, heaven forbid, they're commies. Do you think Russia would allow their allies to get nukes? Hello WWIII
+Pika Zilla It is doubtful the USSR would've retaliated with nukes over Vietnam. Rather, they would've called for the UN to declare the bombing a war crime and a crime against humanity, serving to isolate America from the rest of the international community. Furthermore, to the domestic population the US government was trying to present the war as a war against communism and as a means to liberate the Vietnamese people, but an atomic bombing would've instantly turned the public opinion against the war. Then there is the question of individual people: what kind of a person wants a nuclear attack on their conscience? One could argue many American presidents have been unscrupulous, but it is still a long way from being a genocidal psychopath.
Cyberspine some level of retaliation would occur, what it would have been is debatable. Also keep in mind that the UN is in and was founded by the USA and they can veto any resolution. Any nuclear attack would cause a massive global response of some kind; which is exactly why this never happened. The theory of Mutually Assured Destruction is a major factor in why nuclear war has never been a thing since WWII.
Hi Mr. Paterson
Thank you for such wonderful story about the Ho Chi Minh trail. One thing tho, "Ruột tượng" is not and cannot be translated word by word into elephant intestines. The word refers to the kind of bag made mostly from common cloth the Vietnamese use.
Not only did they beat the Americans, they also fend off the Chinese and French afew decades before. Respect from Malaysia.
I feel so proud of my country 😊
Same here
This man was a incredible man but I hated how north viet and china won many people died when the south just wanted to have a different government system there was nothing wrong but china just had to step in. No offense though to Chinese but why are you now attacking vietnamese islands and taking oil
Well speaking from an unbiased viewpoint the South Vietnamese (SV) gov wanted to get rid of all the old stuff basically. One of the most significant event of this was that the SV gov burned down temples and buddhist pratices to a point where one monk decided to burn himself while meditating in fromt of the SV parliment. China's assistance towards the North Vietnam was so that they could spread communism like assitance for an ally, same with Russia.
IMO i dont know why the Chinese are taking our oil, greed maybe? there's a lot of controversy over borderlines and stuff on the issue though. I know my Chinese friends told me that the Chinese media doesnt really cover anything about this issue over there...
+Draco Powers
They didn't want a different system. The US funded a military dictatorship because they knew that the communists would win the election.
Great insight into an area of the war we often gloss over. How many wars have been won on the backs of engineers?!
Thank you
I AM VIETNAMES
I thought no one won the war.
The US bugged out after the war continued to go poorly, popular support in South Vietnam was long gone, and popular support in the US was waning. So the US wasn't technically defeated, but soon after the US bugged out, South Vietnam fell.
Penmin _ thanks! The USA didn't win, but the South Vietnamese did creating 'Vietnam'.
Wait that sounds familiar? (Korean war).
Uhm, not really. First of all it was communist North Vietnam that won creating Vietnam, not South. And with Korean war it ended with a tie, no matter how you look at it. After initial successes of NK they were repealed and driven near Pyongyang. After further struggle truce was called with front line and new borders exactly the same as they were before. No side gained anything just hundreds thousands of military and civilian lifes lost, with about half million civilians murdered in war crimes by each side (South from the start started murdering alleged leftist that amounted to around 200 000 victims), and civilian lives lost by USA carpet bombing most cities in NK slagging Pyongyang to the ground.
I know that *****, I just thought that there was a few similarities with the two wars. For one, the USA got involved. As usual... :)
No the communist north achieved their goal they captured Saigon (Now known as Ho Chi Minh City) and successfully unify Viet Nam
Gotta understand from the north's point of view they were just. And of course the idea of everyone getting treated the same and receiving supplies equally SOUNDS awesome.
right on :)
Ho Chi Minh was scary.
1 side you got America, self proclaim leader of the world and most advance nation
other side Vietnam, bunch of dudes in jungle. basically tarzan with guns
the tarzan dudes won lol
the war is long over, get over it.
time to acknowledge your defeat and your enemy's strategy
learn and move forward.
He did not fight all America, he only fought one of its countries. I cannot imagine Brazilian or Argentinian soldiers fighting in the Southwest of Asia during 1970s ._.
I'm sorry, but Vietnamese are not tarzan with guns, although we hid in the jungle, but it was our strategy, so don't say anything about it.
Maybe you need some statistics to show who is "Tarzan" in this circumstance. Around 1974, the economy of North VN is extremely more productive than the South.
Our Uncle Ho doesn't scare, at first, he wanted to build socialism at the North and let the unification and liberation at a lower priority. Then, Le Duan, a South VNese is called to the North by Uncle Ho and change the policy because he knew how VCs and other people are treated in the South.
By the way, I think that VNese people have chosen their leader, which resulted in who won this war. :)
dsahgkg: you're so ignorant. Ho Chi Minh once reached out to the then US President Harry Truman for help to fight French colonization in Vietnam, but because the US and France were allies, the US didn't help Ho Chi Minh. So where did he turn for help? the USSR and China! Vietnam could have been an US ally in the 1940s... but then the country was not that lucky. Ho Chi MInh was a patriot and nationalist before he was a communist. He was also a pragmatic leader. He would have chosen anything that benefited the country and its people.
I love how you call the North Vietnamese tarzan. I met dozens of people who thought we live on trees as well.
Binh Ho Thai I'm a Vietnamese and I think communism in our country sucks. Normal people do not have a voice in the government, only the people in the party do. I agree with you that happiness is not necessarily defined by iphone, money. But I think happiness is also defined by freedom. How can a single party system brings you freedom of speech, freedom of choice,...? We need democracy!!!
And you don't know anything about capitalism. It is an economic system, not a political system. It has nothing to do with imperialism.
TheLoveVietnamese like for your nickname..
I agree with Dan Lee, good on you. the "love Vietnamese" comment is long winded, shallow, naive and boring. oh and a little Fascistic, or should In say "communistic" as a peasant said to me once in Hoi An , Nazi and Communist same same.
Dan Lee No country in the world has freedom, even in the US. US government is corrupted and their monetary system is run by private entity, which is run by the powerful elites. Voting system is rigged. Presidents are selected, not elected. The last president that actually cared about his country and its citizens is John F. Kennedy. But since he was against these elites, they had to kill him.
Dan Lee What if i told you democracy is the same?, even worse, there's no direction, people fight all the time to get into power, rob, and get away, if they could get something done at least.
***** Greed is human nature, there's no free country in this world.
this is oribably the most shortest teded video I've seen
I wish my history lesson as easy to understand as this video