Strangely silent. Rob wasn't the only one btw. He was just the person with a mouthpiece that felt like some of us and was willing to say so in a public forum.
Totally agree with you, Rob. It was time for a change and so far Macdonald looks to be a great choice. Accountability also jumped out at me a key takeaway from this along with his communication style. He is a direct and efficient communicator per what is outlined in the article and I think that is a big factor which allows him to run such complex schemes. Being able to scheme them up is one thing, but to be able to teach in a way that is digestible and relatable is huge.
I was Team Pete for awhile especially after the ‘22 season. However, the cracks were there and the ‘23 season showed us that time had passed Pete and a change was needed. Also, Macdonald is the type of no nonsense coach that our team needs. Great vid Rob.
I have to admit that I was gutted to see Pete canned and would have kept him if it was up to me. It didnt take long for me to be shown to be wrong about that. Pete had so many amazing qualities that made him easy to root for and I was proud to call our head coach. No once should ignore the terrible defence that he was responsible for, but the real indictment on his stewardship the last few years was his failure to put together a difference-making staff. Jury is out on whether Mike has done so 1st rep. but the process gives me a lot of confidence.
The other beat reporters are giving us fan-ish opinions and seem at a loss that MM isn't a press charmer like Pete was. Brady is giving us insight, depth and new information. Protect that man at all costs.
Rob, you have been a front runner when it became obvious that Pete wasn't the right one for the job any more (same with the Russ ending) must be a good feeling that you have been ahead of the media and fan base big props to your factual journalism you don't shy away of speaking out opinions that some people don't want to hear that's why you have been my favourite NFL content creator over the last years 🙏🏼
Great piece, Rob. That Quandre Diggs tweet provides such a contrast. I was kind of surprised to learn that Mcdonald was never in the military. He hasn't been in Seattle long, and I'm already of the opinion that he's got an interesting mix of leadership traits. There's clearly some self awareness there, and a dedication to vision from the top on down throughout the org. chart.
Macdonald's hiring of the coaching staff spoke volumes to me and to date has shown that who he chose were the best available in their roles and I loved that. The improvement in the team is there for all to see and should give everyone confidence that this new era is heading in the right direction.
Amen. You can see it even in his press conferences when someone asks a thought-provoking question and he actually thinks about response before answering, unlike Pete would often dismiss questions that were difficult. My least favorite moment with Pete, and the moment when I knew it was time to move on from him, was actually years ago when the team was struggling on defense and he said something to the effect of "We don't have any answers, we are trying everything." That is absolutely unacceptable from our head coach and pathetic. I am not one of these Pete apologists who just give him credit for the Super bowls and overlook his lack of leadership. I think Pete did a good job, had great timing with his philosophy and was blessed with an unbelievable roster during a time of transition in the NFL. Pete was never able to adapt and, as he put it himself, had no answers. This coach has an approach to football that is far more exciting for me and I can't wait to see where it goes.
I remember when it seemed like I was the only fan calling for Pete to be fired. I was savaged, ravaged, mutilated and violated by the other fans. Then I found Rob, who articulated why Pete should be fired, and I knew I wasn't alone. Slowly, other fans began coming out of the shadows into the light, and after three straight years with arguably the worst defense in the league, the tipping point had been reached. I'm so grateful for the new direction of the team, that JS can assert himself, that J Allen is doing such a wonderful job running the organization. It all feels so right. 😎
We're fortunate to have our new HC, but Pete had to go regardless. EDIT: This also isn't to take away his achievement as the most successful HC, it's just he had run his course, especially at 71 yrs old.
I remember getting those phone calls while I was asleep that they got rid of Pete. Been wanting that for about 4 years now. I also live in Maryland and familiar with MM from the Ravens. Seahawks got a gem and he's only going to get better! Super excited!!! CHANGE WAS NECESSARY!!
I believe Pete’s biggest downfall was his loyalty to ce retain players and especially his last coaches. He stayed with his OC and DC too long. They let him down causing him to get fired, but I do agree it was time for a change ange. It had be ten yrs since the SB and. Every year since e our last one, we got further away. It was sad to see him go down be cause. of his loyalty.
Great article from Brady and appreciate your take on it too, Rob. Clearly there was a need for change but it wasn't change for its own sake (which would have been a disaster) but change for the right reasons. Coach Mike has had a promising start and I can't wait to see where this goes. As for the upcoming game, I am actually expecting it to be a loss. Of course I want them to win, but Detroit is very good and a few years ahead of us right now. As long as Seattle is competitive and plays them tough and puts out maximum effort, I won't be too upset about the final score. We're going to lose a few games this year; just always want to look like we belong at the dance. Still, hoping for an upset and 4-0 but if we lose, I'm not going to read too much into it.
Great content Rob! Thanks a lot! Very excited for the future! A change was very needed and thrilled to hear about MacDonald's personality, disciplining players and demanding 100% dedication. This will definitely translate to better and more disciplined play on the field. The two sport teams I follow have a 37 year old HC (Seahawks) and a 35 year old HC (Ajax, European Football), both teams have a bright future in front of them. 💚💙
I was one who (quietly) thought Rob wrong when initially calling for a change. I was wrong. Appreciate Rob's courage to say it and go there early. Still love what Pete did for the culture, the SB win and his passion for helping players to be their best. And, am also loving what the McDonald and the new staff bring with their focus on fundamentals, teaching and accountability. Feel like we have a really good balance now, positive culture with accountability.
Pete didn't hold his players accountable because that SB squad held each other accountable, on and off the field and played with a extremely high standard and that made pete too comfortable and assume every team would do the same thing. Even his USC days those players held each other accountable and played on a extremely high standard.
I think most coaches have a lifespan of 10 years, I think it is similar in a lot of professions...message becomes stale, don't want to leave their comfort zone, etc. It happened to Holmgren, happened to Carroll...so I think the new culture of accountability is probably a few years overdue
Remember all the Arguments you’d have with the Petey boys where they would absolve him of everything, talk in circles with nonsensical arguments, swear he would fix things, accept his bad hires, defend his mediocre to below average results, not care that his archaic schemes were being cooked, or when his choices in personnel never worked out, and he was beyond reproach in their minds? All those poor souls finally shut their mouths by the end of the season for the most part, and now we see this team fight every down until the whistle blows. And despite the growing pains we’ve seen at times during the first three games we are undefeated going into the 4th week of the season. We would be no better than 1-2 if Pete were still here. Don’t get me wrong, Pete was a great coach in both college and the pros, but it was time for a change, and we found the perfect fit in Mike Macdonald. The future is now, and it is looking mighty bright.
Loved the article and your insights Rob ❤ I loved Pete but it was time. His arrogance and hubris was his downfall at the end. Mike Mac was the perfect hire at the perfect time; reset, young roster, mix of vets and young guns…but holding them all accountable starting with himself. I can’t wait to see how the season goes against better teams than first 3. I think Mike & players are excited about the challenges and are diving into it head first (with better tackling 😂) 🙌🏻🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻💙💚🇨🇦
I feel like a lot of us said in the offseason that we expect there's going to be bumps in the road this year and some of the troubling trends of the last few seasons may take some time to be fully eradicated, but that it felt like Macdonald was the absolute right choice to take this team into the future. It seems to me like things are playing out exactly that way so far, plus we have a nice 3-0 start to enjoy as a bonus. I'm really looking forward to seeing what other strides the team can make this season, and especially after another offseason when Macdonald and his staff can devote more time and energy to another draft.
It has been clear to many that Pete Carroll stayed on for too many years. The obnoxious Petehawk fans were just loud and clueless. Neither Pete nor his followers had one clue had to field anything close to an average NFL Defense the past 5 years.
@@banksta3 Early Wagner had those seasons of no missed tackles, and his tackles were forceful right at the spot, tremendous talent and key to the Super Bowl teams. Later Wagner had seasons of no missed tackles, because he wasn't able to cover as much space and just wasn't there to have a missed tackle, and the tackles when he got there, weren't forceful and carriers could fall forward for another yard or two. Love Bobby, but age catches everyone, unfortunately.
I loved reading Brady Henderson‘s piece and watching his video. I think accountability is huge and it is definitely needed when raising up younger men. I love what Pete Carroll brought to this team, but near the end he just seemed like everyone’s buddy. I did find it funny that Diggs was the one mentioning Carroll treated the guys like professionals when he was one of the most immature/unprofessional guys on the team. Macdonald is definitely a breath of fresh air and what this team needed to move in a forward direction!
Absolutely love Pete but after four years of watching the defense steadily be horrible. I don’t know how anybody could think change was not needed. While the offensive line has been subpar to be generous, the team overall has been quite refreshing. It has been a brilliant job bringing in MacDonald by ownership and management and I’m excited to see what is yet to come. That’s not something I could say in the previous four years. Great article by Henderson and a nice video to follow it up. Thanks, Rob
He's awesome and honest and everything we prayed for and recieved! Pete was great for awhile...until he cost us the Superbowl against New England when we were 1 yard from the goal, BEST RUNNING BACK IN THE WORLD was not even on the same side of the field! That's the day he lost alot of our support? Mike McDonald is an answer to every #12 here in Seattke! Our Seahawks are going to the top! I'm so proud of them!💙💚💙💚
Always compete. Don’t forget what carrol brought to this organization. I’m not an acolyte, but it’s a progression, no need to dismiss Pete’s contributions. Hopefully we are progressing, but it’s a long season, and if it goes south don’t pretend like you don’t own what you say. I hope we win it all, it’s a tough league.
1. Pete's a legend. 2. Its a process and everything may not work by year's end. 3. If you follow Rob at all and arent hung up on folks "owning it," you'd know Rob will tell it as it is.
I’m so glad we got Mike Mac!!! Dude has taken over a broken Lamborghini and in 5 months transformed it back to running condition again with a few more tweaks till it’s respectable again. Genius I tell ya! 💡 If I could get a Mike Mac jersey I would! 💯 Go hawks! 🦅💙💚
There is such a difference in the way Mike gives interviews and the way Pete did. Mike's interviews are honest, to the point and engaged with each reporter. Pete's interviews were the same damn thing every week whether we won or lost. He gave what we all called a Tony Robinson motivational speech... every stinking interview. Russel was the SAME EXACT WAY! They could stand at the podium for 30 minutes and did not say one god damned thing about birds the game went. Near bumper stickers abd fortune cookie bullshut! Every damn time. THAT had a whole lot to do with why Marshawn Lynch refused to give interviews! Point blank period. He was NOT going to say the bull💩 things 'They' wanted him to say. He stood his ground which is where the infamous line Beastmode became famous. "IN JUST HERE SO I DON'T GET FINED . We loved #24 then and we love him now. You never saw Marshawn giving Pete a neck rub on the sideline of a game before, DID YA? HELL NO you didn't. Marshawn has been to every game this year and he's gonna be there when we win the Superbowl! Go Mike. GO Seahawks 💙💚💙💚
When Pete was successful the team held each other accountable. You would always hear how the defense held each other accountable. As the times change the players were not holding each other accountable so you had to bring in someone that would hold them accountable. It was time for a change.
Remember when there was a power struggle between Pete and John Schneider. So let's give Jody Allen some credit for picking the right leadership team to lead and coach the Seahawks into their next era. Considering how many bad owners there are in the NFL, this could have easily had a different outcome.
So glad we got rid of the guy who's been giving us a historically bad, league worst defense for over half a decade. Seemed like a no-brainer to me )and you) but others cling onto the past way too much. Happy Mike is performing so well that it's keeping the Pete truthers at bay.
You can let players have a lot of freedom when 1) they are very talented, 2) they are highly competitive, and 3) they are, overall, internally motivated--they don't need butt-chewing to play with their hair on fire. For awhile there, we had that. Then we didn't. The good news, I think, is that the right coach can coach up those that need external "incentives" to play to the top of their abilities. Sounds like Mac is one such coach. Pete was not. Sounds like Mac will find out which player needs what, and provide it as necessary, or step back and let the player provide it himself if he's built that way.
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Accountability for sure. One thing I think isn't talked about enough (yet), and we will only see it reveal as this defense becomes great... and that is that this guy IS a defensive scheme master. I mean, we assumed/hoped he was because of what we saw at Baltimore, but could he repeat it? It's looking already like he can. He's a true X's and O's guy and a teacher, just like Grubb is. We have to have the superior scheme to win in the NFL, in addition to players and accountability. Great hire!
Out of the eight new coaches hired in 2024, I think we got the top guy. I'm not convinced those other seven coaches would have been better than Pete. Just different. So you thinking it was better to fire Pete and roll the dice, well, you rolled an 8 on a eight sided die.
It goes to show there are many ways to win a championship. I was banging the drum for Pete to go after 2018, but his laissez-faire attitude towards micromanaging did win a ring. Now maybe he was just lucky to find the perfect storm of players that happened to perform best with such a long leash. Or maybe they could have been even better. We'll never know, but it's clear that the last few rosters needed to be pushed. As it pertains to the conditioning stuff, I remember KJ Wright talking about how some of the guys are going to have a rude awakening now that Pete's gone. As somebody that signed elsewhere after a long tenure here, that comment stood out for me.
I love Pete, but honestly, I totally agree. Don’t get me wrong, early Pete(in the Seahawks years) was a genius. Couple this with a bunch of “chip on their shoulder” players, was almost perfect. After that short time, new players came in. I think these new players thought that all they had to do was show up on game day. Pete was a great coach!
Not many HC leave when they want to. Most get fired no matter how good they were. Pete is a good HC, but it was time. It happens to most HC. It's just time. Dallas fired a SB winning HC twice. NE did. Philly fired Reid.
Glad he is here. Pete was on cruise control since the interception…. More worried about one handed linebacker and social justice…. Russ should been traded after 16. Pete too. Yes the offense was good but not consistent…. Mike is the break we as fans need.
Pete sent a player packing at the very first team meeting as a Seahawk. I think Pete lost his edge because he relied on veterans to carry the foundation forward. He got complacent. Give him credit though, he left a team in decent shape.
Head coaches tend to lose their very next game when a popular, positive article about them is written, as they then take the rest of the week off and celebrate.
Love for Pete Carroll❤ but change was needed.! Pete should have fired the entire defensive staff & Shane Waldron the next day after the last game of the season. Then I could see him remaining head coach. But the urgency was gone,we needed new leadership.
Pete relied on the likes of Bryant, Clemons, Chancellor, Bane to keep people in line and do the dirty work of enforcement, as the years passed and we lost those guys and Pete hitched his wagon to Me3, the standard vanished.
Rob, this article from Brady reflects very badly on JS and to some extent on Jody. They will have seen Pete up close on a daily basis, seen the decline and they both have and had the power to do something about it. Now they both aren’t football people, but surely they could see the decline in general play and why didn’t they feel the need to do something about it until it was too late and Seahawks looked like a embarrassment. I recognise what Pete has done, but like you been calling for change for years. MM is like most top performing coaches, has high standards and won’t accept 2nd best in attitude on and off the playing field. MM took Baltimore to NFC champ game and I see no reason in time why the same can’t happen here in Seattle.
At least we don't have to hear Pete use the word "friggin" or "frikin" anymore. Pete was more open in talking about injuries than Mike. Mike is more informative other than that. Did Mike learn to not go for two in the first half when it is not yet necessary, if it becomes so, from his first game mistake?
Not sure if MM is the man to replace Carroll ( give it time, but looks promising) but Carroll maybe should have gone about 20 mins after SB46 ...Anyway fresh broom was overdue lets see what happends as the season unfolds. looking at the fixtures we have Falcons, Bills, Rams 49ers twice ,thats the meat of the season , we will know more after that , until then GO HAWKS....
He may have been the only coach in Seahawk history to WIN a Superbow. He was the only coach in Seahawks history who CAUSED the Seahawks to LOSE THE EFFING SUPERBOWL!!
Yes I’m very happy that Pete Carroll is gone I’m very happy about Mike Mac Donald is the greatest replacement ever in Mike Mac Donald we trust let’s go beat the Lions Go Hawks!!!!!!!! 😃💙💚💙💚
Bring back Pete Carrol. This teams SUCKS and it proves it wasn't Pete. Geno Smith is horrible, backup QB is horrible. Just about everything on this team is horrible. What an embarrassment. This used to be the Legion of Boom team!!! Mike Macdonald has done NOTHING, there's no difference at all.
How would that have worked? John drafted a punter and a wr from '17-'20. Would be fun to have Allen but the team would have still sucked with 4 straight years of near wasted drafts.
You can tell immediately from the accent that this guy doesn’t know anything about football. Pete is a hall of fame coach Why do you care about the conditioning test? When in Pete’s long tenure was played fitness an issue for the team? I’ll wait……. Pete would have kicked it in overtime against the Rams. Huge coaching mistake by Macdonald. It was a HUGE mistake to fire Pete Carol John Schneider should have been fired. It will take the Seahawks a long time to be good again.
I’ve probably forgotten more than you’ll ever know about football bud 👍🏻 I’ve worked hard and built contacts to learn. You just sit and complain behind a keyboard
@iron_bison you do, and while I like the hire and what I've seen. I would just like some pause. If we have a great season and lose in the first round. Or even lose to good teams in the regular season, then the narrative will quickly change.
Where is that section of the fan base that were all over Rob about wanting Pete to go, especially the know-it-alls at Feild Gulls.
Strangely silent. Rob wasn't the only one btw. He was just the person with a mouthpiece that felt like some of us and was willing to say so in a public forum.
@bigmike4962 yeah. 2016 for me. Could see the rock slide was in progress
I see that Field Gulls no longer has daily links to SDB. Coincidence? :)
Yeah the Seahawks subreddit was pretty torn over keep or fire Pete. Glad it’s over and our team is on a good trajectory.
There were Tons of fans ready for Carroll to go lol.
Totally agree with you, Rob. It was time for a change and so far Macdonald looks to be a great choice. Accountability also jumped out at me a key takeaway from this along with his communication style. He is a direct and efficient communicator per what is outlined in the article and I think that is a big factor which allows him to run such complex schemes. Being able to scheme them up is one thing, but to be able to teach in a way that is digestible and relatable is huge.
I was Team Pete for awhile especially after the ‘22 season. However, the cracks were there and the ‘23 season showed us that time had passed Pete and a change was needed. Also, Macdonald is the type of no nonsense coach that our team needs. Great vid Rob.
I have to admit that I was gutted to see Pete canned and would have kept him if it was up to me. It didnt take long for me to be shown to be wrong about that. Pete had so many amazing qualities that made him easy to root for and I was proud to call our head coach. No once should ignore the terrible defence that he was responsible for, but the real indictment on his stewardship the last few years was his failure to put together a difference-making staff. Jury is out on whether Mike has done so 1st rep. but the process gives me a lot of confidence.
The other beat reporters are giving us fan-ish opinions and seem at a loss that MM isn't a press charmer like Pete was. Brady is giving us insight, depth and new information. Protect that man at all costs.
So thankful non-football people knew enough about football to hire coach Mike. Bravo!! 👏
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Deep cut. Love it.
I was stoked reading this column this morning. Good things on the horizon in Seattle
This is it! Accountability
Rob, you have been a front runner when it became obvious that Pete wasn't the right one for the job any more (same with the Russ ending)
must be a good feeling that you have been ahead of the media and fan base
big props to your factual journalism
you don't shy away of speaking out opinions that some people don't want to hear
that's why you have been my favourite NFL content creator over the last years 🙏🏼
Thank you 🙏
100% spot on.
Great piece, Rob. That Quandre Diggs tweet provides such a contrast. I was kind of surprised to learn that Mcdonald was never in the military. He hasn't been in Seattle long, and I'm already of the opinion that he's got an interesting mix of leadership traits. There's clearly some self awareness there, and a dedication to vision from the top on down throughout the org. chart.
Macdonald's hiring of the coaching staff spoke volumes to me and to date has shown that who he chose were the best available in their roles and I loved that. The improvement in the team is there for all to see and should give everyone confidence that this new era is heading in the right direction.
Totally right. Pete just seemed to hire his friends.
Macdonald almost brings an MBA/CEO mentality to organization building.
Amen. You can see it even in his press conferences when someone asks a thought-provoking question and he actually thinks about response before answering, unlike Pete would often dismiss questions that were difficult. My least favorite moment with Pete, and the moment when I knew it was time to move on from him, was actually years ago when the team was struggling on defense and he said something to the effect of "We don't have any answers, we are trying everything." That is absolutely unacceptable from our head coach and pathetic. I am not one of these Pete apologists who just give him credit for the Super bowls and overlook his lack of leadership. I think Pete did a good job, had great timing with his philosophy and was blessed with an unbelievable roster during a time of transition in the NFL. Pete was never able to adapt and, as he put it himself, had no answers. This coach has an approach to football that is far more exciting for me and I can't wait to see where it goes.
I remember when it seemed like I was the only fan calling for Pete to be fired. I was savaged, ravaged, mutilated and violated by the other fans. Then I found Rob, who articulated why Pete should be fired, and I knew I wasn't alone. Slowly, other fans began coming out of the shadows into the light, and after three straight years with arguably the worst defense in the league, the tipping point had been reached. I'm so grateful for the new direction of the team, that JS can assert himself, that J Allen is doing such a wonderful job running the organization. It all feels so right. 😎
Thanks!
Thank you Barry!
We're fortunate to have our new HC, but Pete had to go regardless.
EDIT: This also isn't to take away his achievement as the most successful HC, it's just he had run his course, especially at 71 yrs old.
Good things don’t last forever Pete is a legend in Seattle he made Seattle relevant for almost a decade …
Rob and his content is one of the best things about being a Hawks fan, especially in the offseason.
I remember getting those phone calls while I was asleep that they got rid of Pete. Been wanting that for about 4 years now. I also live in Maryland and familiar with MM from the Ravens. Seahawks got a gem and he's only going to get better! Super excited!!! CHANGE WAS NECESSARY!!
I believe Pete’s biggest downfall was his loyalty to ce retain players and especially his last coaches. He stayed with his OC and DC too long. They let him down causing him to get fired, but I do agree it was time for a change ange. It had be ten yrs since the SB and. Every year since e our last one, we got further away. It was sad to see him go down be cause. of his loyalty.
Right on, Rob!
Great article from Brady and appreciate your take on it too, Rob. Clearly there was a need for change but it wasn't change for its own sake (which would have been a disaster) but change for the right reasons. Coach Mike has had a promising start and I can't wait to see where this goes.
As for the upcoming game, I am actually expecting it to be a loss. Of course I want them to win, but Detroit is very good and a few years ahead of us right now. As long as Seattle is competitive and plays them tough and puts out maximum effort, I won't be too upset about the final score. We're going to lose a few games this year; just always want to look like we belong at the dance. Still, hoping for an upset and 4-0 but if we lose, I'm not going to read too much into it.
Awesome pod here Rob. Great job hitting nails on the head with what the Seahawks were clearly desperately missing the past few years.
The best Seahawks content on the internet 💙💚
Than you 🙏
This is one of the best articles i’ve ever read, and great coverage Rob
Great content Rob! Thanks a lot! Very excited for the future! A change was very needed and thrilled to hear about MacDonald's personality, disciplining players and demanding 100% dedication. This will definitely translate to better and more disciplined play on the field. The two sport teams I follow have a 37 year old HC (Seahawks) and a 35 year old HC (Ajax, European Football), both teams have a bright future in front of them. 💚💙
I absolutely love the "Beast-Quake 2.0"
print behind you!!!!
I was one who (quietly) thought Rob wrong when initially calling for a change. I was wrong. Appreciate Rob's courage to say it and go there early.
Still love what Pete did for the culture, the SB win and his passion for helping players to be their best. And, am also loving what the McDonald and the new staff bring with their focus on fundamentals, teaching and accountability. Feel like we have a really good balance now, positive culture with accountability.
Pete didn't hold his players accountable because that SB squad held each other accountable, on and off the field and played with a extremely high standard and that made pete too comfortable and assume every team would do the same thing. Even his USC days those players held each other accountable and played on a extremely high standard.
That's a good point.
I think most coaches have a lifespan of 10 years, I think it is similar in a lot of professions...message becomes stale, don't want to leave their comfort zone, etc. It happened to Holmgren, happened to Carroll...so I think the new culture of accountability is probably a few years overdue
That was a fantastic article
Didn’t read the article .. but thanks for the content Rob .
Pete held no one accountable and it was completely evident.
Remember all the Arguments you’d have with the Petey boys where they would absolve him of everything, talk in circles with nonsensical arguments, swear he would fix things, accept his bad hires, defend his mediocre to below average results, not care that his archaic schemes were being cooked, or when his choices in personnel never worked out, and he was beyond reproach in their minds? All those poor souls finally shut their mouths by the end of the season for the most part, and now we see this team fight every down until the whistle blows. And despite the growing pains we’ve seen at times during the first three games we are undefeated going into the 4th week of the season. We would be no better than 1-2 if Pete were still here. Don’t get me wrong, Pete was a great coach in both college and the pros, but it was time for a change, and we found the perfect fit in Mike Macdonald. The future is now, and it is looking mighty bright.
Loved the article and your insights Rob ❤ I loved Pete but it was time. His arrogance and hubris was his downfall at the end. Mike Mac was the perfect hire at the perfect time; reset, young roster, mix of vets and young guns…but holding them all accountable starting with himself. I can’t wait to see how the season goes against better teams than first 3. I think Mike & players are excited about the challenges and are diving into it head first (with better tackling 😂) 🙌🏻🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻💙💚🇨🇦
Coach Macdonald is a gentleman AND a Badass.
GO HAWKS
Spot on take the coaching style was no longer relevant after llob era well said
I feel like a lot of us said in the offseason that we expect there's going to be bumps in the road this year and some of the troubling trends of the last few seasons may take some time to be fully eradicated, but that it felt like Macdonald was the absolute right choice to take this team into the future.
It seems to me like things are playing out exactly that way so far, plus we have a nice 3-0 start to enjoy as a bonus.
I'm really looking forward to seeing what other strides the team can make this season, and especially after another offseason when Macdonald and his staff can devote more time and energy to another draft.
It has been clear to many that Pete Carroll stayed on for too many years. The obnoxious Petehawk fans were just loud and clueless. Neither Pete nor his followers had one clue had to field anything close to an average NFL Defense the past 5 years.
They were the same people saying it was dumb to cut Wagner instead of paying him starting QB money, and that Diggs was still really good in 2023.
@@banksta3 Early Wagner had those seasons of no missed tackles, and his tackles were forceful right at the spot, tremendous talent and key to the Super Bowl teams. Later Wagner had seasons of no missed tackles, because he wasn't able to cover as much space and just wasn't there to have a missed tackle, and the tackles when he got there, weren't forceful and carriers could fall forward for another yard or two. Love Bobby, but age catches everyone, unfortunately.
Couldn’t agree more 👍
Yeah, I don't think coach Mike has hired a Cooter or a Skeeter?
I loved reading Brady Henderson‘s piece and watching his video. I think accountability is huge and it is definitely needed when raising up younger men. I love what Pete Carroll brought to this team, but near the end he just seemed like everyone’s buddy. I did find it funny that Diggs was the one mentioning Carroll treated the guys like professionals when he was one of the most immature/unprofessional guys on the team.
Macdonald is definitely a breath of fresh air and what this team needed to move in a forward direction!
Absolutely love Pete but after four years of watching the defense steadily be horrible. I don’t know how anybody could think change was not needed.
While the offensive line has been subpar to be generous, the team overall has been quite refreshing. It has been a brilliant job bringing in MacDonald by ownership and management and I’m excited to see what is yet to come.
That’s not something I could say in the previous four years.
Great article by Henderson and a nice video to follow it up.
Thanks, Rob
He's awesome and honest and everything we prayed for and recieved! Pete was great for awhile...until he cost us the Superbowl against New England when we were 1 yard from the goal, BEST RUNNING BACK IN THE WORLD was not even on the same side of the field! That's the day he lost alot of our support? Mike McDonald is an answer to every #12 here in Seattke! Our Seahawks are going to the top! I'm so proud of them!💙💚💙💚
Mike gives off very Bill Belichick vibes. No nonsense. Knows the game. Absolutely makes the players earn everything
Totally agree with you!!
He’s instilling a military like discipline and I love that
Always compete. Don’t forget what carrol brought to this organization. I’m not an acolyte, but it’s a progression, no need to dismiss Pete’s contributions. Hopefully we are progressing, but it’s a long season, and if it goes south don’t pretend like you don’t own what you say. I hope we win it all, it’s a tough league.
1. Pete's a legend. 2. Its a process and everything may not work by year's end. 3. If you follow Rob at all and arent hung up on folks "owning it," you'd know Rob will tell it as it is.
@@iron_bison I appreciate Rob’s takes, it’s the bandwagoneers I was speaking to that are all in these comments.
I’m so glad we got Mike Mac!!!
Dude has taken over a broken Lamborghini and in 5 months transformed it back to running condition again with a few more tweaks till it’s respectable again. Genius I tell ya! 💡
If I could get a Mike Mac jersey I would! 💯
Go hawks! 🦅💙💚
There is such a difference in the way Mike gives interviews and the way Pete did. Mike's interviews are honest, to the point and engaged with each reporter. Pete's interviews were the same damn thing every week whether we won or lost. He gave what we all called a Tony Robinson motivational speech... every stinking interview. Russel was the SAME EXACT WAY! They could stand at the podium for 30 minutes and did not say one god damned thing about birds the game went. Near bumper stickers abd fortune cookie bullshut! Every damn time. THAT had a whole lot to do with why Marshawn Lynch refused to give interviews! Point blank period. He was NOT going to say the bull💩 things 'They' wanted him to say. He stood his ground which is where the infamous line Beastmode became famous. "IN JUST HERE SO I DON'T GET FINED . We loved #24 then and we love him now. You never saw Marshawn giving Pete a neck rub on the sideline of a game before, DID YA? HELL NO you didn't. Marshawn has been to every game this year and he's gonna be there when we win the Superbowl! Go Mike. GO Seahawks 💙💚💙💚
Agreed 💯
When Pete was successful the team held each other accountable. You would always hear how the defense held each other accountable. As the times change the players were not holding each other accountable so you had to bring in someone that would hold them accountable. It was time for a change.
Remember when there was a power struggle between Pete and John Schneider. So let's give Jody Allen some credit for picking the right leadership team to lead and coach the Seahawks into their next era. Considering how many bad owners there are in the NFL, this could have easily had a different outcome.
So glad we got rid of the guy who's been giving us a historically bad, league worst defense for over half a decade. Seemed like a no-brainer to me )and you) but others cling onto the past way too much. Happy Mike is performing so well that it's keeping the Pete truthers at bay.
Hopefully we beat the lions and make the playoffs
You can let players have a lot of freedom when 1) they are very talented, 2) they are highly competitive, and 3) they are, overall, internally motivated--they don't need butt-chewing to play with their hair on fire. For awhile there, we had that. Then we didn't. The good news, I think, is that the right coach can coach up those that need external "incentives" to play to the top of their abilities. Sounds like Mac is one such coach. Pete was not. Sounds like Mac will find out which player needs what, and provide it as necessary, or step back and let the player provide it himself if he's built that way.
Accountability for sure. One thing I think isn't talked about enough (yet), and we will only see it reveal as this defense becomes great... and that is that this guy IS a defensive scheme master. I mean, we assumed/hoped he was because of what we saw at Baltimore, but could he repeat it? It's looking already like he can. He's a true X's and O's guy and a teacher, just like Grubb is. We have to have the superior scheme to win in the NFL, in addition to players and accountability. Great hire!
Out of the eight new coaches hired in 2024, I think we got the top guy. I'm not convinced those other seven coaches would have been better than Pete. Just different. So you thinking it was better to fire Pete and roll the dice, well, you rolled an 8 on a eight sided die.
It goes to show there are many ways to win a championship. I was banging the drum for Pete to go after 2018, but his laissez-faire attitude towards micromanaging did win a ring.
Now maybe he was just lucky to find the perfect storm of players that happened to perform best with such a long leash. Or maybe they could have been even better. We'll never know, but it's clear that the last few rosters needed to be pushed.
As it pertains to the conditioning stuff, I remember KJ Wright talking about how some of the guys are going to have a rude awakening now that Pete's gone. As somebody that signed elsewhere after a long tenure here, that comment stood out for me.
I love Pete. Thank you. It was time for a change. My excitement is back. I believe Mike can be great. Go Hawks!
I love Pete, but honestly, I totally agree. Don’t get me wrong, early Pete(in the Seahawks years) was a genius. Couple this with a bunch of “chip on their shoulder” players, was almost perfect.
After that short time, new players came in. I think these new players thought that all they had to do was show up on game day. Pete was a great coach!
great stuff
I was out on Caroll after the playoff loss to Dallas. We couldnt run and Dallas couldnt cover Lockett and Baldwin
I think it was less about Pete having to go, Pete was a hall of fame coach, but more about getting Mike before he becomes HC somewhere else.
It was definitely also about moving on from Pete. It was overdue
Not many HC leave when they want to. Most get fired no matter how good they were. Pete is a good HC, but it was time. It happens to most HC. It's just time. Dallas fired a SB winning HC twice. NE did. Philly fired Reid.
Glad he is here. Pete was on cruise control since the interception…. More worried about one handed linebacker and social justice…. Russ should been traded after 16. Pete too. Yes the offense was good but not consistent…. Mike is the break we as fans need.
Pete sent a player packing at the very first team meeting as a Seahawk.
I think Pete lost his edge because he relied on veterans to carry the foundation forward.
He got complacent.
Give him credit though, he left a team in decent shape.
Head coaches tend to lose their very next game when a popular, positive article about them is written, as they then take the rest of the week off and celebrate.
Love for Pete Carroll❤ but change was needed.! Pete should have fired the entire defensive staff & Shane Waldron the next day after the last game of the season. Then I could see him remaining head coach. But the urgency was gone,we needed new leadership.
Yup
Pete relied on the likes of Bryant, Clemons, Chancellor, Bane to keep people in line and do the dirty work of enforcement, as the years passed and we lost those guys and Pete hitched his wagon to Me3, the standard vanished.
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Rob, this article from Brady reflects very badly on JS and to some extent on Jody. They will have seen Pete up close on a daily basis, seen the decline and they both have and had the power to do something about it. Now they both aren’t football people, but surely they could see the decline in general play and why didn’t they feel the need to do something about it until it was too late and Seahawks looked like a embarrassment.
I recognise what Pete has done, but like you been calling for change for years. MM is like most top performing coaches, has high standards and won’t accept 2nd best in attitude on and off the playing field. MM took Baltimore to NFC champ game and I see no reason in time why the same can’t happen here in Seattle.
JS worked under Pete Carroll, so I am not sure he had much power to get Pete fired.
John had no means of doing anything. I suspect he knew change was needed for quite some time
Pete had the players partying a bit too much.
At least we don't have to hear Pete use the word "friggin" or "frikin" anymore. Pete was more open in talking about injuries than Mike. Mike is more informative other than that. Did Mike learn to not go for two in the first half when it is not yet necessary, if it becomes so, from his first game mistake?
Not sure if MM is the man to replace Carroll ( give it time, but looks promising) but Carroll maybe should have gone about 20 mins after SB46 ...Anyway fresh broom was overdue lets see what happends as the season unfolds. looking at the fixtures we have Falcons, Bills, Rams 49ers twice ,thats the meat of the season , we will know more after that , until then GO HAWKS....
Pete carroll was a master of nepotism
Should’ve fired him after he blew it on the 1-yard line
He may have been the only coach in Seahawk history to WIN a Superbow. He was the only coach in Seahawks history who CAUSED the Seahawks to LOSE THE EFFING SUPERBOWL!!
Yes I’m very happy that Pete Carroll is gone I’m very happy about Mike Mac Donald is the greatest replacement ever in Mike Mac Donald we trust let’s go beat the Lions Go Hawks!!!!!!!! 😃💙💚💙💚
Go hawks
Amazing news… he does make the laws and he does enforce them ! Coach Enforcer!
Pete should’ve left after we lost the SB.
Bring back Pete Carrol. This teams SUCKS and it proves it wasn't Pete. Geno Smith is horrible, backup QB is horrible. Just about everything on this team is horrible. What an embarrassment. This used to be the Legion of Boom team!!! Mike Macdonald has done NOTHING, there's no difference at all.
Fire Pete in 2018 and trade Russ to Cleveland to draft Josh Allen 😭
How would that have worked? John drafted a punter and a wr from '17-'20. Would be fun to have Allen but the team would have still sucked with 4 straight years of near wasted drafts.
You can tell immediately from the accent that this guy doesn’t know anything about football. Pete is a hall of fame coach Why do you care about the conditioning test? When in Pete’s long tenure was played fitness an issue for the team? I’ll wait……. Pete would have kicked it in overtime against the Rams. Huge coaching mistake by Macdonald. It was a HUGE mistake to fire Pete Carol John Schneider should have been fired. It will take the Seahawks a long time to be good again.
I’ve probably forgotten more than you’ll ever know about football bud 👍🏻 I’ve worked hard and built contacts to learn. You just sit and complain behind a keyboard
The article has not aged well.
So dramatic. Lets win some playoff games first.
We are 3-0 aganist mid to bad teams.
You have to win the games in front of you.
@iron_bison you do, and while I like the hire and what I've seen. I would just like some pause. If we have a great season and lose in the first round. Or even lose to good teams in the regular season, then the narrative will quickly change.
@@iron_bison told you
again... L to Giants