Not necessarily many nfl players as kids couldn’t even get pass the physicality of pop warner, and the ones who did stopped playing in highschool mostly besides draymond which was ass. So to come to the nfl is bonkers because they ain’t learning to kick in an off season and the ain’t hitting on special teams. Now can you go pay Chris brikely or lethal shooter etc and learn a skill over the offseason to pair with physicality to already try to guard and go get rebounds to at least get to a draymond level shooting and dribbling? Which would be more likely in your opinion?
@@SwaggyThaGodhe's saying if they had the mentality to play football they would have.. as a football player I've saw people put pads on get popped and pick up a basketball but never the other way around. The only time I've ever saw it in my life were with 3 exchange students we had from Brazil who were 6'5,6'3,and 6,8 they were decent on the field but assassins on the court and it always blew my mind how great they were at basketball and how average at best they were
Only pick up game of football is gonna resemble 7 on 7. You got a better chance of winning the lottery then getting a traditional pick up game of football.
jalen suggs, paolo, anthony edwards, zion, lebron, aaron gordon, julius randle, andre drummond, russell westbrook, fuck it ja morant theres 10 that easily would given a year of preparing
@TheEdwinb1 only nba. Not nfl and nba. Love charlie tho he from GA. DEION Literally played in the nfl and MLB at the same time!!! Once did it on the same day!!!
@@Rich30000because hes comparing salaries when james jones was comparing accomplishments. Jones said he was better in his league than rivers which he was. Just happens the NBA pays better unless your a qb
@@ArtisStarks that doesn’t make sense because first of all James jones attacked rivers first and that was how rivers responded. And rivers never said he could play in the nfl so James jones comments didn’t even make sense to say to rivers in the first place. And excluding all of that happening that still doesn’t explain how he walks around like he’s Jordan or lebron
Metrically yes but that doesn’t account for his ability to take a hit. Offensive line is very hard u can’t hold and u gotta block Maxx Crosby and Myles Garrett 😂😂😂 Sounds good till u get out there
@@footballtechcontent3165 because his athleticism and explosion would be unprecedented at te also his ability to jump and catch? Also then he wouldn't be getting pressure put on it every single play by blocking dudes much heavier than him, he doesn't seem to get injured running
Yeah most anyone CAN be a navy seal from a physical standpoint. But ain’t nobody gonna be because you have to go through some dark shit for months and years. It’s about just the will to keep going not skill or being the best or fastest. Can you keep going when you want to quit. NFL a lot closer to that than the nba mentality wise.
@@markislivingdeliberately Same can be said about Marines. You need a certain mentality for certain things in life so idk how the NFL is closer than the NBA. That made no sense,
@@KeithEasley-vc1mb Oh yeah, I'm actually a pretty strong swinger, as the coaches pointed out to me in baseball tryouts. I didn't make the team that sophomore year and the only pitches I saw that were really hard to judge were sliders and changeups. One really great pitcher on our team, who actually wound up with a DII scholarship for pitching, always had a -seamer, a 2-seamer, and also had a really nasty knuckleball that almost nobody could hit. The hand-eye coordination and the timing needed to hit that ball is very skillful in it's own way. Anyway, I just decided to do track and field and long distance running instead. I was a 800 and mile runner mostly. Also did long jump as well, so that's probably why I like to watch long jumpers.
Lemon Pepper Lou had the most reasonable remarks out of all the ones they showed here. However, even he shouldn't have said shooting a jumper is more complicated skill than football skills because then you're judging skills and there are more difficult sports than basketball (based on skill). Hitting and pitching baseballs is more difficult (especially at the MLB level).
Or stickhandling/skating in hockey. I know 3 year olds who can run, and jump. You won’t find many who can skate. It’s about what you train for. If you train everyday to hit baseballs, you’ll be better than those who don’t. Same for shooting a basketball, or catching a football. Difference is, you see A LOT more people quit day one of football practice, and hockey practice. I think the willpower, toughness, and mindset it takes to play tho makes the difference. I can’t imagine many nba players feel fear often. I know for a fact if you play hockey or football at ANY LEVEL you’ll feel fear. Probably baseball too, I doubt getting hit by a pitch feels very good. I only played football and hockey tho.
Bruce Ellington was at first a Basketball player at South Carolina but went on to join the football team and played in the NFL as a wide receiver/return specialist
The only person I feel could really give a good take on this is Julius Peppers. He played basketball at a high level at UNC but he was also dominate in football.
I'd agree, but there are plenty of good college players at elite colleges that can't make it professionally. Julius Peppers was also mainly a reserve for the basketball team whilst he was at UNC.
NBA players can’t even run up and down the court without getting injured! How the hell u gonna play in the NFL when getting hit damn near EVERY play?!?!
these mf don't even have the conditioning. nba players play offense and defence. the NFL there are literally teams for that . when the offense ger done they sit down for the denfence team to get on. half the team don't even house the ball the entire team touches the ball. there only one quarterback in basket basket that's equivalent to a point guard and multiple ppl can play that in different positions steph pg. James harden sg. lebron small forward jokic center running the team. foot ball just run your route get open and catch the only thing you have to worry about is getting hit. if you take hitting out of football and make it flag this would even be on conversation because that's the only thing u can go off of tackling someone. shooting is a skill ppl like shaq dwight Howard and giannis are terrible at it dribbling is a skill ai strph kyrie most football players can't even dribble
@@hokageobama4003 say it again! Niggas really get injured and carted off off the field!! Ur definitely exaggerating but I get it! 😂😂 NBA players get carried off the court for nothing! Lol
@tyrellwilliams317 you are insane lol smh. Firstly there are no elite defenders anymore lol smh. Secondly there are crazy good elite corners in the NFL. Not only that their are elite pass rushers, and elite team defenses that you have to go around. Throwing a ball in a tight window, with blitz pressure, and off your back foot is way harder than shooting a jumper even if you were going against the bad boy pistons
@tyrellwilliams317 you are insane lol smh. Firstly there are no elite defenders anymore lol smh. Secondly there are crazy good elite corners in the NFL. Not only that their are elite pass rushers, and elite team defenses that you have to go around. Throwing a ball in a tight window, with blitz pressure, and off your back foot is way harder than shooting a jumper even if you were going against the bad boy pistons
45% is good shooting percentage in the NBA. 65% is a bad completion percentage in NFL. In football you run to go catch a ball. In basketball you have to run while dribbling the ball and throw it through it little hoop with people trying to stop you. Basketball is harder in a lot of ways.
Look up Lonnie Wright....played basketball for the Denver Nuggets and football for the Denver Broncos in the 1970s....at the same time. A black man as well
Here's what you do: 35 each from the NBA & NFL. 10 teams. Teams of 7. You make it a pick-up league where captains pick whoever they want, teams can be any mix of players. Basketball games can either have real refs, or make it street ball. NFL can potentially have a designated QB playing for both teams (different QB different weeks) or teams provide their own from players selected. Teams wear pads.
Few players in the NBA could have played football if they would have decided to do that and put their time and effort into honing those skills. But coming from the court to the field is a whole different thing. Both sports require different workouts and skillsets. Let’s just say that both side have very impressive athletes and we can enjoy watching both.
To be fair.. there’s numerous examples of basketball players and other athletes who never played football till like college and picked it up and ended up having long and successful NFL careers. There’s not nearly as many of those guys in the nba who never played basketball before
14:04 The NFL is not truly global. Think about how big the globe is. Football is non-existent in Africa, Asia, damn near Oceania. Football in America is crazy popular but cmon ... put Mahomes in donwtown Hong Kong and watch him be free of attention. Whether its the most popular sport in the US or not, it does not matter lol. Just because Brady is more famous than Cristiano Ronaldo in America, doesn't mean that Brady is more famous than the average premier league player abroad. NBA v NFL in terms of popularity is not a debate whatsoever. And believe me, more average people can play football in comparison to basketball. The average person will NEVER be able to learn how to fade away in the league, but most people can raise both their arms and block someone running at them. There's like 15 players on a basketball team and like 52 players on a football team lol
For what is worth Randy Moss said he went to a camp and played against Kevin Garnett and got outplayed. He said he knew then basketball was not for him.
@@OlcurtyB Point was that he was drafted due to his bball play at baylor. Not even an elite basketball player, yet translated to 2-3 year NFL playing career. Basketball players have made the jump, it can and has been done. Not the other way around. Much harder to make a bball team. Only 5 starters per team, average height is 6-6, on top of being an elite athlete you must possess a particular skill set.
Tommy Polly from FSU he stared at SF also stared at LB played in the NFL with the Rams, Ronald Curry NC stared PG McDonald’s all American also stared QB for the Tar Heels, Tony Gonzales, Antonio Gates, & Julius Peppers Started for NC as a PF also DE on the field. Just to name a few.
If you don’t like Austin’s take thts ok (I think he’s right 30 is crazy) but saying he wasn’t good is just proving his statement. He was the best player at every level of basketball until he got to the NBA thts how good the NBA guys are
@@JohnBoy84How many guys get drafted into the NFL every year vs the NBA? You have to be elite to get drafted in the NBA. You can be a specialist in football, get drafted in the 5th round, and still be a great player in the NFL.
Im not really sure the point he is trying to make towards the end, just because basketball is more accessible it makes it less competitive and skillful? doesnt make sense to me. And judging the quality of a football player by how hard they can get hit is so dumb, everyone can suit up and take a hit, let these nba players train like a linemen for a few years and they can take a hit guarantee.
From somebody who played both lou will was the most accurate Them mfs probably wouldn't make it through football PRACTICE let alone a GAME or a SEASON. Foh yall not tough enough
Football is skill, bravado, toughness, physicality, smarts, reaction time. Basketball is skill, finesse, confidence, smarts, pace, constant flow of movement. 2 completely different sets of tools put together. Both are to be respected.
the athletes that grow up playing o line and d line are usually the athletes that weren’t good at anything else. Every position on the court is a skill position where you have to make decisions, most of the positions in football you get told where to go and who to block, that’s your only job. Also every year nfl scouts bring college power forwards in for workouts
I played both sports and a lot of others played multiple sports as well. The bottom line if you had a choice between both I'm choosing basketball because they pay more, and their money is guaranteed money. So, think about that. Football players don't have that it's based of incentives.
@@versatillion15 Look Little Darryl I had the ability to play all sports. Could you play one? The question was asked could 30 NBA players play in the NFL or 30 NFL players play in the NBA both have different skill sets. Me myself at the time I could transition from one sport to the other like a lot of other athletes. It's not impossible to do but in today's era that might be a hard transition. I see a lot of NBA players play for the foul instead of playing through the foul. SMFH and the other hand I see a lot of NFL players taking that sideline exit too. But the game is managed and called different now so both sports have become soft and everyone is friends exchanging jerseys after the game. But like I said I'm going to take the NBA route every time. It has nothing to do with how soft a person is, it just make since to go with what's going to pay you the most and can you walk away with all of your faculties in one piece.
Try catching a 55 MPH football while worrying about getting blind sided by a man as big/bigger than you and tell me if that’s harder than making a jump shot lmao
@@jw8rok any sport that lets you use your body and physicality to stop someone will require less skill than the sport where you have to stop people without tackling, bodying. It’s common sense, please use your brain.
Cam did a great job explaining it! Bball player judge you on the skill to score, football players judge you based on your toughness to do it again... that's pretty accurate! All in all both sports take incredible skill and it's just disrespectful to think one could play the other easily💯
You can probably get the forwards/centers to be linemen in the nfl too…you not tackling in that position, more so pushing and shoving… can’t even hold..
@@dezfmtx Zion, bron, ant man , Steven Adam, Westbrook, jrue, Caruso, Payton jr, Scottie Barnes, it’s a couple more I’m for getting I’m saying these players because physical presence and mentality
You’re just wrong. That’s not to say throwing a pass at the NFL level is easy. But to make it to the NBA and be able to shoot it at a high level, is definitely hard to do. How many players have we seen flame out because they couldn’t shoot? (Ben Simmons, etc) this isn’t new. And it’s not to say that passing the ball accurately is easy. But to get to that level, it takes an extreme level of skill. Let’s not lie.
Respectfully, Mississippi 91, your take is flawed. Playing qb is extremely hard but there is only. ONE player who has to do that. Also consider the fact that most qbs have trained their entire lives for that 1 specialty. QBs don't have to catch, block or run routes. Offensive players don't play defense and defensive guys will never play offense. But in the NBA??? Do you know how difficult it is to have to play both sides of the floor? Constantly? In consecutive possessions? Even if you are a bad jump shooter, you can't be a complete liability to your offense. If you are a great scorer but a just an ok defender, you still have to play defense. On defense, Kyroe gets caught on a screen and now all of a sudden, he's matched up on Jokic. What do you think would happen if Brady or Mahomes had to flip around and then defend Tyreek Hill or Derrick Henry? There is way more required of every basketball player than is actually required of the absolute BEST NFL players.
@@jeanfourcade There are a laundry list of NBA athletic-type guys who are also incredibly fast and who can probably get some space for route running, but if they got jammed at the line it might be trouble.
I just say... listen to Charles Berkeley... that man said he went out there and got hit and took his ass back to the basketball court... and he's a giant dude lol
I think a lot of people forget about Charlie Ward who was the Heisman trophy winner and went to the NBA. I agree. There is not 30 players on either side that would be stars. Respect the sports. Now statistically it may be easier to make a 53 man roster than a 15 man roster but that's it.
There's NFL player that never played football in their life before but there's no NBA player that never played basketball before Also I just look up some of the names, Antonio Gates played basketball in his collage but didn't get any look from NBA and then he tried NFL and charges took him
The only way I can defend what he said is that football is so much bigger than basketball in America there are more people in the world that watch football
These NFL players acting like the NFL didn't just pass a rule called " The hip drop tackle " rule. The NFL is softer than its ever been. Of course you can get athletes from the NBA to play WR and DB
I would have ZERO ISSUE with this take if somebody notable said it. But Austin Rivers??? The player who only played in the league mainly off his dad's name??? Yeah, no.
History lesson time… Lonnie Wright was an NBA who got drafted by the Hawks but never signed with them. Instead he decided to play football despite not playing in college. He ended up playing 2 years in the NFL before going back to the NBA. Antonio Gates played college basketball and was told by the NBA he wouldn’t make it because he was considered a tweener. He decided to try out for the NFL despite not playing college football. Not only did he make the NFL, he went on to become one of the greatest players at his position. Those situations could NEVER happen the other way around. Austin was trippin saying 30 players rn could play in the NFL, but there are definitely some. There’s not a single player in the NFL that would even make an NBA roster.
I disagree with that, but they wouldn’t be great players or scorers. But I’ll bet you could find some corner backs who could be a defender/hustler type. Pat bev, Bruce Bowen, or like the manimal back in the day. Like hustle hustle get some out backs or hit wide open corner 3’s etc. But def couldn’t just say “go play” they’d need years to train and hone the craft. But in the nfl you can find a job here or there. But there may not be anyone in the nba willing to take that kinda beating every single week. Takes a different breed. Like people don’t realize how much nfl players bodies get beat up literally every Sunday. Imagine the most beat up and sore you’ve ever been then imagine that’s your job to do every Sunday. Car crash level damage weekly. They different
@@markislivingdeliberately Everyone you just named would absolutely drag any NFL player rn lol. They play their roles in the NBA because that’s just how good everyone in that league is. If they walked into a gym full of NFL players playing basketball, they’d look like MJ. The skill level required to even make the NBA is crazy. In the history there’s only been 5000 or so humans than can ever say they played in the NBA. No NFL player has the basketball skill level required to even make an NBA roster. Julius Peppers maybe but he’d be a bench warmer and he’d definitely benefit from playing in his era. I believe Lebron, Ant, Zion, Westbrook, and a few others would all excel had they chosen football.
@@CN-gw5nt Nah see there is a difference in skillset, but NBA speed and NFL speed are also different but are also similar. Lamar Jackson is a great example of this, I've seen him juke guys out of their cleats and it's more similar to a hesi-cross than a actual football juke. That's where the crossover between sports can be seen on a higher-level player. Lamar Jackson was also a legit high-level High School track and field sprinter.
Antonio Gates is in the hall of fame and was famously a basketball player in college. JD Burns just got a full football scholarship and never played football. Randy Moss is one of the greatest football players I ever seen was said to be better at basketball but I don’t think he would have been one of the best I ever seen in basketball. I don’t know if basketball players are tough enough to play on the nfl but I don’t think it would be a matter of skill.
I can't believe Lou Williams is out here talking like Russel Westbrook isn't playing in the league.. that man just rebounds and dunks which is what every single WR in the nfl would and could do.
Thinking that’s all Westbrook does is crazy. He’s literally one of the best passers in the league. And let’s just say that is all Westbrook does he’s still 6’3 and the average wr is 5’10. The average nfl wr is doing literally nothing in the league
The only player that breaks this whole discussion is Antonio Gates one of the best TE’s to ever play and never played football in college while solely playing basketball. However I do completely agree with the opinion displayed above
Facts! There's more players on that list tho. There's multiple solely cbb players in the NFL right now. Antonio is just by far the most successful and does drop the mic on the debate. You can't have a CBB All- American play 0 snaps of football make 1st team all-pro by year 2, HOF and be Top 5 all-time at his position and say bball can't translate. Lol
@@andremurria3483draymond did not play football in college. He literally only played the spring game his senior year because he just wanted to play and they let him
This easiest way to finishes this arguments is NFL players are to short to play in the NBA. The average NFL lineman which are the tallest players are 6'6" they would be Point Guards and Shooting Guards in NBA. So I don't think there are 30 players right now that could play but I definitely think NBA players would have an easier transition to NFL than a NFL players trying to make an NBA roster.
I cannot believe I watched this entire video. I agree with Cam from beginning to end. Sure, some can play the other sport, just not to the level as bench players. I think because you can play basketball by yourself or can get a team quick since it doesn't require as many people. Football is more popular due to the amount of games. Look how many international games there are now. Also think how they have an international NFL program. Every team has had at least one international player. Most other sports don't really matter till mid-season since there are soooo many games. besides Christmas Day games, NBA really doesn't start in my world until after NFL season has ended. I was also excited for the schedule today. I love this sport. USA would dominate in football, but it would be harder to get the NFL to agree to let their players participate vs NBA. The summer is training camp and preseason, so that would cut into their time ($$$$). Then when you break down football positions, I think of the Offensive line. I see so many players admit they look up to Trent Williams. And there is only one crazy specimen like Trent. GO Niners!!!!
Definitely the best take I’ve heard. Played ball at UofA and would play pick up games at the Rec and drop buckets until the basketball team would come haha 20 turn 4 real quick. Them boys never wanted to come to the field though, not even 7s
I got it.....NBA all star game, NBA players vs NFL players, and then NFL pro bowl, NFL vs NBA.... I'd watch that😂😂😂😂
I like this ,, but unfortunately it would have to be a flag 7v7
Yeah they ain't got no O lineman or D lineman
Hell nah. Nfl season is over when nba all star weekend.. they gon be out of shape, relaxin, partyin, chillin with fam to go do some stuff like that
@@HermeticHaitian1804it’s already flag so they good
Patent this before the leagues steal it
Easiest way to put it, football players would simply fail in basketball, basketball players would get seriously hurt in football.
Not necessarily many nfl players as kids couldn’t even get pass the physicality of pop warner, and the ones who did stopped playing in highschool mostly besides draymond which was ass. So to come to the nfl is bonkers because they ain’t learning to kick in an off season and the ain’t hitting on special teams. Now can you go pay Chris brikely or lethal shooter etc and learn a skill over the offseason to pair with physicality to already try to guard and go get rebounds to at least get to a draymond level shooting and dribbling? Which would be more likely in your opinion?
There is 5’10 180 players in the NFL not getting seriously hurt
@@GBHD7414 hitting what on special teams have you seen special teams play this decade
@@sherbstone yea …….I’ve seen them change atleast 4 rules because it was the most dangerous play in football….. so like I said they wouldn’t make it
@GBHD7414 Go get some rest only the wedge buster was at risk you are just a weak minded individual
“That came out of your mouth uncomfortable” is a line I’m stealing
It shouldn't be unless you enjoy using terrible grammar.
I tell people "you didn't look comfortable saying that"
Ok
You can play a pick up basketball game ANYWHERE.....Try and set up or find a pick up football game EVERYONE will LOOK AT YOU CRAZY!! 😂😂
Right cause I gotta get paid for risking my body
GREAT TAKE.
I see ur point but how does that help the argument for football players being able to transfer sports? because its harder to set up a football game?
@@SwaggyThaGodhe's saying if they had the mentality to play football they would have.. as a football player I've saw people put pads on get popped and pick up a basketball but never the other way around. The only time I've ever saw it in my life were with 3 exchange students we had from Brazil who were 6'5,6'3,and 6,8 they were decent on the field but assassins on the court and it always blew my mind how great they were at basketball and how average at best they were
Only pick up game of football is gonna resemble 7 on 7. You got a better chance of winning the lottery then getting a traditional pick up game of football.
Wanna just see Austin catch footballs from a juggs machine 😂😂
He admitted hes trash lmao but i agree hes definitely trolling for attention
Charlie Ward
I want to see him get off the line with a good high school corner pressing him.
jalen suggs, paolo, anthony edwards, zion, lebron, aaron gordon, julius randle, andre drummond, russell westbrook, fuck it ja morant theres 10 that easily would given a year of preparing
@@lairo253 An NFL LB sends them back to the hardwood.
That’s a team of 30 TE’s 💀
They’d have to run 010 personnel every play😂
Who can’t block
😅😅😂 I forgot my butt pad 1 TIME!!..never again. Shot changed my life lol😅
😂😂
10 reps doing the Oklahoma drill will end this conversation real quick.
You think that’s equal to a layup line cause some of these o-linemen prolly blowing them
@@thadragonslayer713 difference is sure maybe some smoke a lay but not one will make it through the Oklahoma
NFL players don’t do that drill either though….
@@Speenzoidotron because it’s proven they already have heart, the drill ain’t a tackling drill it’s to see if your going to pussy out of not
NBA season 82 games. Most NFL players don’t have the stamina for half of that
Has the nba ever had a bo jackson or deion sanders.......nope!!!!
Jordan played two sports… 🙃
@xT1MOTHYx 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bro you missed the whole point!!!
Charlie ward
@TheEdwinb1 only nba. Not nfl and nba. Love charlie tho he from GA. DEION Literally played in the nfl and MLB at the same time!!! Once did it on the same day!!!
Soccer #1 baseball #2 Basketball #3 🌎 globally
The problem with Austin Rivers is he walks around like he’s Michael Jordan or Lebron
Y’all be saying anything. How does Austin rivers walk around like he’s Jordan or lebron?
@@Rich30000because hes comparing salaries when james jones was comparing accomplishments. Jones said he was better in his league than rivers which he was. Just happens the NBA pays better unless your a qb
@@ArtisStarks that doesn’t make sense because first of all James jones attacked rivers first and that was how rivers responded. And rivers never said he could play in the nfl so James jones comments didn’t even make sense to say to rivers in the first place. And excluding all of that happening that still doesn’t explain how he walks around like he’s Jordan or lebron
@@Rich30000 they got hurt emotionally like a little boy.
@@ArtisStarksjones made it personal so rivers fired back. Why is that so bad. Jones started it because he’s an emotional fb player
15:40 I am 41 and play 21 with men half my age. I ain't getting in pads and helmets to play football against those dudes. 😂
Trent Williams chiming in: "Let's see one of you motherfuckers try to get passed me just once"
Let’s see Trent try to score on Giannis or Embiid or hell even Gobert.
@@TrapMarleyTrent got a better chance of scoring on them guys then they got of beating him in pass rushing 😭😭 them MFs ain’t physical enough
@@TrapMarleyExactly. Dude would get gassed in 4 minutes in the NBA
Everybody forgot fundamentals Football is about blocking and tackling 😂😂😂
Zion could be an amazing o-lineman. And he could eat allll he wanted. Perfect fit
Metrically yes but that doesn’t account for his ability to take a hit. Offensive line is very hard u can’t hold and u gotta block Maxx Crosby and Myles Garrett 😂😂😂 Sounds good till u get out there
@@markislivingdeliberately tight end, why would you want a guy with leg problems to play o line? 😂
Why do YOUwant a guy with leg problems running 😂
@@footballtechcontent3165 because his athleticism and explosion would be unprecedented at te also his ability to jump and catch?
Also then he wouldn't be getting pressure put on it every single play by blocking dudes much heavier than him, he doesn't seem to get injured running
Exactly Cam The key that Austin missing is Mentality.
You gotta be built differently mentally to play 🏈
Yeah most anyone CAN be a navy seal from a physical standpoint. But ain’t nobody gonna be because you have to go through some dark shit for months and years. It’s about just the will to keep going not skill or being the best or fastest. Can you keep going when you want to quit.
NFL a lot closer to that than the nba mentality wise.
I didnt agree with Cam that Lebron couldn't be a threat in the NFL. Come on man...that dude is 5x the athlete Kelce ever was.
Same can be said for literally ANY sport. Football players think they gladiators and no other sport or person is tougher. Y’all hell.
@@markislivingdeliberately
Same can be said about Marines. You need a certain mentality for certain things in life so idk how the NFL is closer than the NBA. That made no sense,
Kobe Bryant michael jordan a lot of ppl tot shit to say otherwise bro
Prime and Bo playing baseball and football is crazy because making contact with that baseball one of the hardest things in sports 😮💨
It’s the hardest thing in sports
@@KeithEasley-vc1mb Oh yeah, I'm actually a pretty strong swinger, as the coaches pointed out to me in baseball tryouts. I didn't make the team that sophomore year and the only pitches I saw that were really hard to judge were sliders and changeups. One really great pitcher on our team, who actually wound up with a DII scholarship for pitching, always had a -seamer, a 2-seamer, and also had a really nasty knuckleball that almost nobody could hit.
The hand-eye coordination and the timing needed to hit that ball is very skillful in it's own way.
Anyway, I just decided to do track and field and long distance running instead. I was a 800 and mile runner mostly.
Also did long jump as well, so that's probably why I like to watch long jumpers.
Lemon Pepper Lou had the most reasonable remarks out of all the ones they showed here.
However, even he shouldn't have said shooting a jumper is more complicated skill than football skills because then you're judging skills and there are more difficult sports than basketball (based on skill). Hitting and pitching baseballs is more difficult (especially at the MLB level).
Or stickhandling/skating in hockey. I know 3 year olds who can run, and jump. You won’t find many who can skate. It’s about what you train for. If you train everyday to hit baseballs, you’ll be better than those who don’t. Same for shooting a basketball, or catching a football. Difference is, you see A LOT more people quit day one of football practice, and hockey practice. I think the willpower, toughness, and mindset it takes to play tho makes the difference. I can’t imagine many nba players feel fear often. I know for a fact if you play hockey or football at ANY LEVEL you’ll feel fear. Probably baseball too, I doubt getting hit by a pitch feels very good. I only played football and hockey tho.
Yea I agreed with him up until the jump shot comment.
austin rivers take is meaningless until he plays 1 down of a Oklahoma drill with NFL players otherwise shut your mouth buddy.
I think he’s boost’n too 😂 but ain’t no pros running the Oklahoma drill in 2024. I doubt it’s still in college… including Oklahoma.
GTFOH respect all pro athletes but mafukaz us talking like it's impossible it's harder to play MLB then it is to play in the NFL
@@sherbstone you might have downs lil bro football the hardest sport buddy
@@sherbstone straight up wrong 😭
@@LuckyShowTime yes they do?
Bruce Ellington was at first a Basketball player at South Carolina but went on to join the football team and played in the NFL as a wide receiver/return specialist
The only person I feel could really give a good take on this is Julius Peppers. He played basketball at a high level at UNC but he was also dominate in football.
I'd agree, but there are plenty of good college players at elite colleges that can't make it professionally. Julius Peppers was also mainly a reserve for the basketball team whilst he was at UNC.
Antonio Gates
Charlie Ward
Tony Gonzalez
Ronald Curry
NBA players can’t even run up and down the court without getting injured! How the hell u gonna play in the NFL when getting hit damn near EVERY play?!?!
You say that when quite literally 5 mfers a game get injured and carted off the field every Sunday. Stop it. 82 games compared to 17 games.
@@hokageobama4003you never played so you stop it
these mf don't even have the conditioning. nba players play offense and defence. the NFL there are literally teams for that . when the offense ger done they sit down for the denfence team to get on. half the team don't even house the ball the entire team touches the ball. there only one quarterback in basket basket that's equivalent to a point guard and multiple ppl can play that in different positions steph pg. James harden sg. lebron small forward jokic center running the team. foot ball just run your route get open and catch the only thing you have to worry about is getting hit. if you take hitting out of football and make it flag this would even be on conversation because that's the only thing u can go off of tackling someone. shooting is a skill ppl like shaq dwight Howard and giannis are terrible at it dribbling is a skill ai strph kyrie most football players can't even dribble
@@hokageobama4003 say it again! Niggas really get injured and carted off off the field!! Ur definitely exaggerating but I get it! 😂😂 NBA players get carried off the court for nothing! Lol
@@hokageobama4003 Goes to show they're way too fragile to play football.
I just realized that Cam is a whole other level of cool. When the documentary coming out.
Humility does alot for him
Lou Williams hit the nail on the head until he said shooting a basketball is way harder 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah I looked at him crazy when he said that lol smh
It’s harder to shoot against an elite defender than for an nfler to do his job
@tyrellwilliams317 you are insane lol smh. Firstly there are no elite defenders anymore lol smh. Secondly there are crazy good elite corners in the NFL. Not only that their are elite pass rushers, and elite team defenses that you have to go around. Throwing a ball in a tight window, with blitz pressure, and off your back foot is way harder than shooting a jumper even if you were going against the bad boy pistons
@tyrellwilliams317 you are insane lol smh. Firstly there are no elite defenders anymore lol smh. Secondly there are crazy good elite corners in the NFL. Not only that their are elite pass rushers, and elite team defenses that you have to go around. Throwing a ball in a tight window, with blitz pressure, and off your back foot is way harder than shooting a jumper even if you were going against the bad boy pistons
45% is good shooting percentage in the NBA. 65% is a bad completion percentage in NFL. In football you run to go catch a ball. In basketball you have to run while dribbling the ball and throw it through it little hoop with people trying to stop you.
Basketball is harder in a lot of ways.
Look up Lonnie Wright....played basketball for the Denver Nuggets and football for the Denver Broncos in the 1970s....at the same time. A black man as well
18:46 is legendary😂😂😂. I’m the size of Peggy and I feel the same way😂😂😂
Here's what you do:
35 each from the NBA & NFL.
10 teams.
Teams of 7.
You make it a pick-up league where captains pick whoever they want, teams can be any mix of players.
Basketball games can either have real refs, or make it street ball.
NFL can potentially have a designated QB playing for both teams (different QB different weeks) or teams provide their own from players selected. Teams wear pads.
Few players in the NBA could have played football if they would have decided to do that and put their time and effort into honing those skills. But coming from the court to the field is a whole different thing. Both sports require different workouts and skillsets. Let’s just say that both side have very impressive athletes and we can enjoy watching both.
No one has mentioned Charlie Ward. NBA player w/ a Heisman
Ward was a NFL bust so he hopped fulltime to the NBA. Correct me if I'm wrong.
You did and I agree!!!
@@Raiderreyes1324incorrect. You have to know the NFL wasn’t looking at black quarterbacks like that. He could have played if they gave him a chance.
@@Raiderreyes1324 He wasnt a bust he never played . Teams were not drafting short black Qbs back then
@@KamuiCage He was not elite. He would not make it today either. We have Black and White Qb's winning the Heisman and could not play in the NFL.
Honestly I’m not sure how many countries have rugby but I feel they could play NFL
This argument is funny as hell 😂😂😂
To be fair.. there’s numerous examples of basketball players and other athletes who never played football till like college and picked it up and ended up having long and successful NFL careers. There’s not nearly as many of those guys in the nba who never played basketball before
9:19 good way to translate it Cam 🔥🔥
14:04 The NFL is not truly global. Think about how big the globe is. Football is non-existent in Africa, Asia, damn near Oceania. Football in America is crazy popular but cmon ... put Mahomes in donwtown Hong Kong and watch him be free of attention. Whether its the most popular sport in the US or not, it does not matter lol. Just because Brady is more famous than Cristiano Ronaldo in America, doesn't mean that Brady is more famous than the average premier league player abroad. NBA v NFL in terms of popularity is not a debate whatsoever.
And believe me, more average people can play football in comparison to basketball. The average person will NEVER be able to learn how to fade away in the league, but most people can raise both their arms and block someone running at them. There's like 15 players on a basketball team and like 52 players on a football team lol
Fun fact. Randy moss is one of the VERY FEW that could have gone to the nba. Jason Williams express that pretty often
For what is worth Randy Moss said he went to a camp and played against Kevin Garnett and got outplayed. He said he knew then basketball was not for him.
@@AldiAldiFPen hmmmmmmm 2shay 2shay
Realistically NBA players could transition into the NFL way easier than NFL players into the NBA
It would be easier to make an NFL roster than the NBA.
In this conversation let us remember Charlie Ward, Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, Allen Iverson, Micheal Vick, etc. all were ballers in both sports
Not on the pro level Charlie Ward probably had the best case.
High school shouldn’t really count to be fair. Any dominant athlete can crush against high school boys
And many more who were drafter and played multiple years (just not stars). IE Rico Gathers from baylor (cowboys).
@@Dmac87 I'm 3 catches behind him for my career in the NFL
@@OlcurtyB Point was that he was drafted due to his bball play at baylor. Not even an elite basketball player, yet translated to 2-3 year NFL playing career. Basketball players have made the jump, it can and has been done. Not the other way around. Much harder to make a bball team. Only 5 starters per team, average height is 6-6, on top of being an elite athlete you must possess a particular skill set.
Charlie Ward baby. Heisman at fsu n starter for knicks
jus looked at his highlights he was cold
Tommy Polly from FSU he stared at SF also stared at LB played in the NFL with the Rams, Ronald Curry NC stared PG McDonald’s all American also stared QB for the Tar Heels, Tony Gonzales, Antonio Gates, & Julius Peppers Started for NC as a PF also DE on the field. Just to name a few.
Big Baby Davis on the Dline for sure 😂
Charlie Ward is the only athlete I can remember that had the legit chance to play both NFL and NBA.
Randy Moss.
The thing no one talks about is if you aren’t accustomed to that “click clat” from the jump you can’t play football at ANY level.
Make more videos of this length plz
I love Cam's perspective. He's speaking the truth. Like he also said, Let's respect each other's profession. LOVE IT!
If you don’t like Austin’s take thts ok (I think he’s right 30 is crazy) but saying he wasn’t good is just proving his statement. He was the best player at every level of basketball until he got to the NBA thts how good the NBA guys are
He wasn’t the best in college. He was 1 of the best though lol. That’s normally how most pro athletes are they are the best then they get to the pros.
The same thing happens in the NFL
Same thing happens in NFL bro
@@JohnBoy84How many guys get drafted into the NFL every year vs the NBA? You have to be elite to get drafted in the NBA. You can be a specialist in football, get drafted in the 5th round, and still be a great player in the NFL.
That’s not an argument
Im not really sure the point he is trying to make towards the end, just because basketball is more accessible it makes it less competitive and skillful? doesnt make sense to me. And judging the quality of a football player by how hard they can get hit is so dumb, everyone can suit up and take a hit, let these nba players train like a linemen for a few years and they can take a hit guarantee.
From somebody who played both lou will was the most accurate
Them mfs probably wouldn't make it through football PRACTICE let alone a GAME or a SEASON. Foh yall not tough enough
Don't forget about Antonio Gates from the chargers 🤔 he played college basketball and played in the NFL.
Football is skill, bravado, toughness, physicality, smarts, reaction time.
Basketball is skill, finesse, confidence, smarts, pace, constant flow of movement.
2 completely different sets of tools put together. Both are to be respected.
the athletes that grow up playing o line and d line are usually the athletes that weren’t good at anything else. Every position on the court is a skill position where you have to make decisions, most of the positions in football you get told where to go and who to block, that’s your only job.
Also every year nfl scouts bring college power forwards in for workouts
Lou was on point.
Until he said a jumpshot is harder 😂
This show is great. These guys are on point.
I played both sports and a lot of others played multiple sports as well. The bottom line if you had a choice between both I'm choosing basketball because they pay more, and their money is guaranteed money. So, think about that. Football players don't have that it's based of incentives.
The question is about ability not which would you rather play
@@versatillion15 Look Little Darryl I had the ability to play all sports. Could you play one? The question was asked could 30 NBA players play in the NFL or 30 NFL players play in the NBA both have different skill sets. Me myself at the time I could transition from one sport to the other like a lot of other athletes. It's not impossible to do but in today's era that might be a hard transition. I see a lot of NBA players play for the foul instead of playing through the foul. SMFH and the other hand I see a lot of NFL players taking that sideline exit too. But the game is managed and called different now so both sports have become soft and everyone is friends exchanging jerseys after the game. But like I said I'm going to take the NBA route every time. It has nothing to do with how soft a person is, it just make since to go with what's going to pay you the most and can you walk away with all of your faculties in one piece.
As a high schooler I was recruited to play an Australian football team of adult men. We dog walked them and we were high schoolers 😂😂😂
Try catching a 55 MPH football while worrying about getting blind sided by a man as big/bigger than you and tell me if that’s harder than making a jump shot lmao
Sorry man. The skill required to play in the NBA is just way more than the NFL. It’s just the way it is
@@Jerry_hatrick please explain to me why because I think you’re tripping
@@jw8rok any sport that lets you use your body and physicality to stop someone will require less skill than the sport where you have to stop people without tackling, bodying. It’s common sense, please use your brain.
Cam did a great job explaining it! Bball player judge you on the skill to score, football players judge you based on your toughness to do it again... that's pretty accurate!
All in all both sports take incredible skill and it's just disrespectful to think one could play the other easily💯
I say NBA has a better chance at the NFL at the skilled position WR, TE, DB Jimmy Graham, Gonzales and Gated two HOF and 1 all pro
Name more tho. We only come up with those 3. He said 30 current
@dezfmtx he was making a hyperbolic statement
You can probably get the forwards/centers to be linemen in the nfl too…you not tackling in that position, more so pushing and shoving… can’t even hold..
@@dezfmtx Zion, bron, ant man , Steven Adam, Westbrook, jrue, Caruso, Payton jr, Scottie Barnes, it’s a couple more I’m for getting I’m saying these players because physical presence and mentality
The head cushions line 😂
Football is different , NBA is skills football is everything .
Brother all football is for the most part is athleticism
Perfect take, Cam. Salute from Colli Park GA
Shooting a jump shot is absolutely not harder than standing in that pocket and throwing an accurate pass!!
Good thing Lou Williams didn’t say that lmao
That dude crazy for saying that.
You’re just wrong. That’s not to say throwing a pass at the NFL level is easy. But to make it to the NBA and be able to shoot it at a high level, is definitely hard to do. How many players have we seen flame out because they couldn’t shoot? (Ben Simmons, etc) this isn’t new. And it’s not to say that passing the ball accurately is easy. But to get to that level, it takes an extreme level of skill. Let’s not lie.
Respectfully, Mississippi 91, your take is flawed. Playing qb is extremely hard but there is only. ONE player who has to do that. Also consider the fact that most qbs have trained their entire lives for that 1 specialty. QBs don't have to catch, block or run routes. Offensive players don't play defense and defensive guys will never play offense.
But in the NBA??? Do you know how difficult it is to have to play both sides of the floor? Constantly? In consecutive possessions? Even if you are a bad jump shooter, you can't be a complete liability to your offense. If you are a great scorer but a just an ok defender, you still have to play defense. On defense, Kyroe gets caught on a screen and now all of a sudden, he's matched up on Jokic. What do you think would happen if Brady or Mahomes had to flip around and then defend Tyreek Hill or Derrick Henry?
There is way more required of every basketball player than is actually required of the absolute BEST NFL players.
Neither is harder than facing a 97mph fastball then facing a 92 mph slider with break 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
Dwight Howard would be the greatest center in football
We need a nba vs nfl game in both all star weekends
We should start with the basketball game. Otherwise, there wouldn't be any hoopers left for the other game!
@jeanfourcade Facts 😂😂
@@jeanfourcade There are a laundry list of NBA athletic-type guys who are also incredibly fast and who can probably get some space for route running, but if they got jammed at the line it might be trouble.
“I don’t damn know Peggy” 😂
Who would you rather stand across from on the line in football… Lebron or Ray Lewis… I know what my answer is 🤣🤣🤣🤣
DeMarcus Cousins will drop a career high on Cam😂😂😂
I just say... listen to Charles Berkeley... that man said he went out there and got hit and took his ass back to the basketball court... and he's a giant dude lol
😂
He is the definition of a guy who could have excelled in the nfl though. He has the perfect kind of strength and wild athleticism for his size.
Just listen to Randy Moss. He said he couldn't compete with the best hs ball players, so he went to play football.
@@eag8999 Physically yes. Barkley himself says no to the mental toughness side.
@@KevinThomes I agree with that. The mental side, especially on defense is different.
I think a lot of people forget about Charlie Ward who was the Heisman trophy winner and went to the NBA. I agree. There is not 30 players on either side that would be stars. Respect the sports. Now statistically it may be easier to make a 53 man roster than a 15 man roster but that's it.
There's NFL player that never played football in their life before but there's no NBA player that never played basketball before
Also I just look up some of the names, Antonio Gates played basketball in his collage but didn't get any look from NBA and then he tried NFL and charges took him
“NFL is more popular internationally because it’s the most popular sport in America”
Spoken like a true American legend 😂😂🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸
Lol except it's not.
1.) Football(soccer)
2.)Baseball
3.)Basketball
@@one7deep7savage7Around the world it’s not, but in America, football(America’s Version) is #1.
The only way I can defend what he said is that football is so much bigger than basketball in America there are more people in the world that watch football
@@Woods1528 he said internationally tho
@@one7deep7savage7 Yea that’s true. I thought you were referring to both internationally and in US.
Demar Dotson was the starting C/PF at Southern Miss before getting to the NFL after only one year playing football at Southern Miss.
He said football is global and proceeds to say its the biggest sport in the United States 😂😂😂 that not global buddy.
These NFL players acting like the NFL didn't just pass a rule called " The hip drop tackle " rule. The NFL is softer than its ever been. Of course you can get athletes from the NBA to play WR and DB
Rs Schedule release is a hell of a thing
One sport you can go straight from high school and one you can… that’s the difference for me 18:50
I would have ZERO ISSUE with this take if somebody notable said it.
But Austin Rivers???
The player who only played in the league mainly off his dad's name???
Yeah, no.
THANK YOU! A league bum can't start this kinda conversation.
He was a stud in high school… one of the best mixtapes… you’re a casual so ofc you wouldn’t know…
Austin Rivers was a beast in college that how he made the NBA
Cam the only dude with dreads that wears a hat 😂
Julius peppers
Play NCAA basketball final four and played in the Super Bowl
8:42 cam can’t whistle to save his life
History lesson time…
Lonnie Wright was an NBA who got drafted by the Hawks but never signed with them. Instead he decided to play football despite not playing in college. He ended up playing 2 years in the NFL before going back to the NBA.
Antonio Gates played college basketball and was told by the NBA he wouldn’t make it because he was considered a tweener. He decided to try out for the NFL despite not playing college football. Not only did he make the NFL, he went on to become one of the greatest players at his position.
Those situations could NEVER happen the other way around. Austin was trippin saying 30 players rn could play in the NFL, but there are definitely some. There’s not a single player in the NFL that would even make an NBA roster.
I disagree with that, but they wouldn’t be great players or scorers. But I’ll bet you could find some corner backs who could be a defender/hustler type. Pat bev, Bruce Bowen, or like the manimal back in the day. Like hustle hustle get some out backs or hit wide open corner 3’s etc.
But def couldn’t just say “go play” they’d need years to train and hone the craft.
But in the nfl you can find a job here or there. But there may not be anyone in the nba willing to take that kinda beating every single week. Takes a different breed. Like people don’t realize how much nfl players bodies get beat up literally every Sunday.
Imagine the most beat up and sore you’ve ever been then imagine that’s your job to do every Sunday. Car crash level damage weekly. They different
@@markislivingdeliberately Everyone you just named would absolutely drag any NFL player rn lol. They play their roles in the NBA because that’s just how good everyone in that league is. If they walked into a gym full of NFL players playing basketball, they’d look like MJ. The skill level required to even make the NBA is crazy.
In the history there’s only been 5000 or so humans than can ever say they played in the NBA. No NFL player has the basketball skill level required to even make an NBA roster. Julius Peppers maybe but he’d be a bench warmer and he’d definitely benefit from playing in his era. I believe Lebron, Ant, Zion, Westbrook, and a few others would all excel had they chosen football.
@@CN-gw5nt Nah see there is a difference in skillset, but NBA speed and NFL speed are also different but are also similar. Lamar Jackson is a great example of this, I've seen him juke guys out of their cleats and it's more similar to a hesi-cross than a actual football juke. That's where the crossover between sports can be seen on a higher-level player. Lamar Jackson was also a legit high-level High School track and field sprinter.
Antonio Gates is in the hall of fame and was famously a basketball player in college. JD Burns just got a full football scholarship and never played football. Randy Moss is one of the greatest football players I ever seen was said to be better at basketball but I don’t think he would have been one of the best I ever seen in basketball. I don’t know if basketball players are tough enough to play on the nfl but I don’t think it would be a matter of skill.
I like Cams take football players don’t have the SKILL to play basketball and Basketball players don’t have the frame or toughness to play football
You can teach skills size and toughness not so much
Football players don't have the frame to play basketball either. The average height in the NBA is like 6'5".
Antonio gates was a hooper and tony Gonzalez
Austin Rivers is incredibly wrong and disrespectful.
I can't believe Lou Williams is out here talking like Russel Westbrook isn't playing in the league.. that man just rebounds and dunks which is what every single WR in the nfl would and could do.
Thinking that’s all Westbrook does is crazy. He’s literally one of the best passers in the league. And let’s just say that is all Westbrook does he’s still 6’3 and the average wr is 5’10. The average nfl wr is doing literally nothing in the league
@@Rich30000the average nfl receiver ain't 5'10 that's the average cornerback
Japan beats the US in American football this year though...
The only player that breaks this whole discussion is Antonio Gates one of the best TE’s to ever play and never played football in college while solely playing basketball. However I do completely agree with the opinion displayed above
Nope that’s one guy
Gates was able to do the crossover because he was a hoss rebounder. He was a very physical undersized power forward.
@@dlowthadon I did say the only player 🤦♂️
Facts! There's more players on that list tho. There's multiple solely cbb players in the NFL right now. Antonio is just by far the most successful and does drop the mic on the debate. You can't have a CBB All- American play 0 snaps of football make 1st team all-pro by year 2, HOF and be Top 5 all-time at his position and say bball can't translate. Lol
Antonio Gates, Rico Gathers, Mo Alie-Cox, Darren Fells and Quinten Rollins.
The last edit was crazy. Cam said a whole bunch of stuff 😂
I'm sure you could train a few NBA players to be NFL players and vice versa. Keyword train. The bloodline is still the same. 💪🏾
My boy Cam with the ghost rider drip 🥶that’s hard my boy
We should ask Nate Robinson he did both in college
So did Charlie Ward!
College is not the NFL. I hate when people think college is the NFL
So did Draymond Green and he was ass🤷🏾♂️ just UA-cam his Michigan st highlights. It’s bad, he was getting his bug ass tossed around
@@andremurria3483draymond did not play football in college. He literally only played the spring game his senior year because he just wanted to play and they let him
thanks for the chance to use your platform Cam.
Pro football players are required to where helmets and pads . NBA shorts and tanks. Alpha vs Beta.
This easiest way to finishes this arguments is NFL players are to short to play in the NBA. The average NFL lineman which are the tallest players are 6'6" they would be Point Guards and Shooting Guards in NBA. So I don't think there are 30 players right now that could play but I definitely think NBA players would have an easier transition to NFL than a NFL players trying to make an NBA roster.
Interesting enough, Japan has a pretty big American Football scene. And OBJ might make it as a NBA player
Obj too short for the nba he not even 6ft tall
Huge football fan but Charlie Ward. FSU legend could’ve played both for sure and also be a major threat.
I cannot believe I watched this entire video. I agree with Cam from beginning to end. Sure, some can play the other sport, just not to the level as bench players. I think because you can play basketball by yourself or can get a team quick since it doesn't require as many people. Football is more popular due to the amount of games. Look how many international games there are now. Also think how they have an international NFL program. Every team has had at least one international player. Most other sports don't really matter till mid-season since there are soooo many games. besides Christmas Day games, NBA really doesn't start in my world until after NFL season has ended. I was also excited for the schedule today. I love this sport. USA would dominate in football, but it would be harder to get the NFL to agree to let their players participate vs NBA. The summer is training camp and preseason, so that would cut into their time ($$$$). Then when you break down football positions, I think of the Offensive line. I see so many players admit they look up to Trent Williams. And there is only one crazy specimen like Trent. GO Niners!!!!
Charlie ward was an all American in football and basketball at fsu. Nate rob was a star in football and basketball and Washington
Definitely the best take I’ve heard. Played ball at UofA and would play pick up games at the Rec and drop buckets until the basketball team would come haha 20 turn 4 real quick. Them boys never wanted to come to the field though, not even 7s
Love Lou’s response
When Cam said the fans get excited for the schedule release the conversation was over! 🤣
Of course, Shaq would go nuts. Shaq could do everything, he’s a freak of nature. Powerful, agile and fast for his size.
Charlie Ward. Played in the NBA and was the Heisman Trophy winner. He is probably the only per that would have excelled in the NFL.