#59 - Woodturning Extraction System Overview
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
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Lots of people recently have asked how I have the dust extraction system set up in the workshop, so this week we look at precisely that!
Thanks to Paul Jones for the recommendation for Bill Pentz's Website here: goo.gl/XEcCq2
Thansk, Harold Bowern for this link to grounding your system if you use PVC Pipe: goo.gl/WkovcA
Useful Links to Amazon. See the blog post at goo.gl/mrbdtp for links to eBay as well.
JSP Powercap: geni.us/3BS1
Trend Airshield Pro: geni.us/3VLl
Extractor Units geni.us/3dJh
Dryer Hose: geni.us/B25
Extractor Joints: geni.us/3wzX
Extractor Brackets: geni.us/2ZMB
Blast Gates: geni.us/ao7
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Airbrush and Compressor: geni.us/3zfB
Pyrography Machine: geni.us/Sjz
Watercolour Pencils: geni.us/3vIj
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Spiralling Tool: geni.us/2MKd
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Fingernail Jig: geni.us/429R
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Excellent walk through Martin & I'm pleased I'm not the only one who looks for 'cheaper' options that do an acceptable job. Some good ideas that I'd like to use in my small shop assuming you don't mind. We used to have a cockerel like your new addition when we lived in a small village south of Shakespeare country. Made a lovely roast Sunday lunch !!!!
Thanks for sharing, Geof Harris
Every shop should have one. That said, I need one, for now a window and fan is the best I can master, but considering all the junk I put into my lungs even outside the shop, the dusty shop might even be cleaner :) But my main problem with setting up a dust extraction system is that I'm living in a residential area, so unless someone invents a silent vacuum, I'll stay with the fan in the window, but it's good to see how I should set one up, someday. Loved the purple man, and green is def your color!! :)
Yuval.
+Martin Saban-Smith Mine as well actually, you got lucky there! ;)
Wow! Martin, thanks for the shout out! I stumbled onto Mr. Plentz website when I was planning my "small portion of the garage" work place when I retired back in ought three. He has done the math regarding dust collection and has plenty of information about what piping does what, 90 degrees bad, static boom, you name it.
Like your homemade gates, but I don't need them. No piping more than six feet, with three small cyclones from five inches (hose size) to two inches with a 1.5 inch adapter that go directly into sanders and such. Its all about the velocity of the air that's moving past your work, and how often one has to clean those nasty dust bags.
Now, if I could only figure out how to keep my tool sharp.....
You would be surprised how much additional flow you can get from straight pipes. I like simplicity of your setup.
really nice overview and covers what is needed. -I look forward to the day that i can put my blower outside and not have to work with a headset on all the time....but that'll have to be when I build my stand alone shop....
The problem of inhaled wood dust is a very real and very serious issue. It's particularly problematic with certain types of wood, but ANY dust that deep in your lungs will cause you problems. I would also suggest a "air cleaner"....a separate box with a fine grade filter media (like something used in a furnace or A/C) and put in a location where it will circulate the air of the shop and filter out those small airborne bits that are particularly harmful to your lungs. (they don't need to be the expensive versions...there's several "home-built" examples on here that can be done with an old household fan and a bit of cabinetry work....)
an alternative for the piping is 4" central air ducting, (essentially like your downspout pipe) The smooth sides helps keep any suction losses down as well... also has the benefit of premade elbows and adapters. Depending on your local availability, it's not that unreasonably priced.
I would recommend a thien-style separator stage prior to your actual blower. I started with a unit much like yours, and got tired of having to fight with swapping the bags out (btw, heavy duty garbage bags will work with them as well) with the separator stage, very little ever gets to the blower itself, it's all caught in the can where it's more easily dealt with.
A really thorough and informative video Martin. The system you have seems to be very effective, and unobtrusive sound wise, One thing I would like to pick you up on....when was the last time WE had one of these "sensible conversations"!!!!!!! ;)
Take care,
Mike
Very informative and needed. I will be putting up my new shop this summer which will need a good dust extraction system. Always can use good information. Stay safe.
nice system. you might want to check on the use of ground wire through it. I'm no authority on the matter but have been told that the plastic pipe can cause static electricity and possibly can make very fine dust ignite. have a good one.
yak
Great tour Martin, most appreciated. My brother has a similar extraction unit to what you have. For the sake of buying one of the fabric bags you are missing on the bottom they do last and would be easier to refit. Luckily I work at Nilfisk so I'm hoping to get some free access to a unit when I have the workshop is built. Fortunately I don't need anything as complex as you have, but it has been a great help for me to plan something.
Nice review. I use a combination of metal and plastic gates. The plastic are similar to yours, they build up dust in the gate channel resulting in the inability to close tight. Used a 1/2 inch drill at the lower corner to create a hole for the dust to be pushed out. Works ok for now. For piping, I used a light gauge sewer pipe, sweep bends and the spiral pipe runs as short as possible. But, my extractor is 1hp, about 650cfm so a small unit. Still use a mask for the heavy dust generating events. We all do what we can, and something is always better than nothing!
thanks for the tour of your system.it was very helpful. i'll be looking at something like this for my work shop.thanks again.
Thanks Martin for the tour of your dust control system
As to switching it on when needed. Your can purchase remote control switches(cheap as chips) Usually they come in a pack of 3. They are very handy indeed.
Nice one Martin, I'm halfway through making a video on my portable dust extraction unit , I wish I had the space to set up a system like yours. My workshop is tiny ! Will probably be a while before I post the video. All the best, Jim.
Great idea nice cheap idea I can't wait to get back in the shop n get it sorted
Thanks for the video, I will steal some of your ideas when I put mine in in a couple of weekends time.
I see someone else mentioned using sweeps in place of the sharp 90 degree elbows would increase efficiency. Also the last "extra" port would work better if replaced with a "Y" instead of a "T", the dust and chip build-up there would be virtually eliminated. I like the simple yet effective blast gates you made...good idea. You might try lining the slides with felt to increase the seal and still allow easy movement. All in all, a well designed system and very interesting video.
Nice review Martin. When I have to do more than opening the door I will look at it :) Like the cost cutting tips too and I look forward to the airbrush review :)
This is a great system! Thanks for doing this vid. I hesitate to use an underbed portal as it would do away with the childish joy of being ankle deep in shavings!!!
Looking a bit green there, Martin. Might want to check your extractor filters. LOL Thanks for the overview. Got some good ideas to mull over for my garage shop.
I have just fitted a t piece to a 100 mm hole behind lathe with dryer pipe on one side of t and black pipe on other side connected to dust unit ,the dryer pipe Has a blast gate from amazon temporarily fitted. But the hole behind lathe has great suction just the bench blast gate on bench to make thanks for idea martin. Ps wring that hens neck
really interesting look into your system, get some insulation in the loft it'll stop you shivering in the winter months 😉
And winter does not freeze the dust extractor? The lathe was good. Like!
Thanks Martin, good idea to make a dust collector outside the workshop.
Very good video are you planing to put a air filter system in to help with the dust that your extraction system misses
Thanks Martin - will have to get Michael to extend his system to include the sanding area as well as the lathe. It was, of course, easy to follow having visited your workshop and very clear to understand. One question, can you recommend a source for the large jubilee clips and are they purchased by length (circumference) or diameter
***** many thanks will have a look
This is very helpful--thank you! Can you share a link for the "jps" air filtration mask you mention?
+Martin Saban-Smith That's very helpful! Thank you so much!!
Great video, I was thinking of using duct pipe (don't know if that's the same stuff but looks like it). Some links in the description doesn't work: blog post, Dryer Hose, Extractor Joints, Extractor Brackets, and I think on your website there are ebay links missing. Just to let you know :)
Great job with the extraction
+Martin Saban-Smith Thanks. This link goo.gl/mrbdtp is sending to page that doesn't exist www.msabansmith.com/2016/04/18/extraction-system-overview/#.VxYO0keaHaw
I think it's because wrong date (18 instead of 19)
I can see the article by going here www.msabansmith.com/2016/04/19/extraction-system-overview/#.VxYOikeaHaw but there is no ebay links it just saying "you can find some Amazon and" and there is nothing after 'and'.
I can find it myself, but I bet it would be helpful for some people. Sorry for being pain :D
+Martin Saban-Smith you are right, all ok on my phone
Hi Martin check this one out on ebay ,i have it in my work shop and it is a great gadget
Remote Control Sockets Wireless Switch Home Mains UK Plug AC Power 3 Pack
Thank you for sharing all the good work
Yiannis
Here's another option for wiring your dust extractor switch: www.amazon.com/Woods-32555-Weatherproof-Wireless-Converter/dp/B001Q9EFUK (yes, I know - my link isn't geographically sensitive :)
That’s not a cockerel it’s lunch lol