Kpop companies: don't talk to girls, dont look at girls, don't text girls, don't date Also kpop companies: now emotionally sing this song about how much you love a girl and how much you miss her
I really don't understand how the companies make idols sing about love so much but are not allowed to experience it themselves. Makes me really sad tbh.
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The government needs to start setting up regulations on how they treat people and what is legal to put in a contract. A lot of this sounds so one sided to the agency and is simply abuse. The modeling industry is beginning to change and this needs to as well. It's never okay to treat a human being likes an object with rights.
The sad thing is that the whole music industry or any kind of “creative/entertaining” industry works like this. So everything should be changed everywhere to treating humans as humans.
Can you imagine the trainee life being a thing in America? Every parent would put their foot down and take the agency to court. I wish Korean parents were more willing to do that for their kids.
Fang Sakuu But the kpop industry in particular is abusive and the most booming and popular these days. It just has to change. But some fans don’t even care.
right the backlash that hyuna got for telling people she was dating the one dude from a boy group and hes in her group was a bigger shock for me .. also the amount of events she missed out on .. oh lord... glad she got signed to some other label now..
Bcs idols are supposed to love their fans only, who give them their living. Not their GFs. Imagine you buy tons of albums, spend lotta money to meet someone's boyfriend for 5 mins. Every fans knows deep within that they dont support their idols for their music. Music indeed play important rules, but not the #1 reason. Dating is ok in k-pop if youre established or not an idol (artists). 2PM and SNSD dated, BigBang dated or even married, IU dated. Hyuna dated, which is ok for her but not his bf, rookie group w/ smaller fanbase which still growing. Feel bad for his team. He got the pussy but the rest of the team are left with undecided career.
nah, even Sungmin from Super Junior got so much hate when he got married he barely gets the work he once has and will probably officially leave the group when his contract ends. these are grown men in their 30s
@@samanthaepps6365 Regarding Sungmin: 1) Some ELF were upset with Sungmin because wanted to get married right before enlisting which cut Mamacita promotions short. 2) Some ELF were also upset with Sungmin because SUPER JUNIOR had no clue that Sungmin was even dating and engaged until he announced it to the public
As much as I love kpop, half of this is honestly horrendous. I’ve always suspected these kind of rules but it’s interesting to hear you talking about it!
Love doesn't have any connection with dating love is from our heart we don't have to date to fall in love cuz love is so natural we can fall in love with someone even if they don't know our existensy we can stop dating but we can't stop our heart to love someone
i never really understood why the kpop companies weight you daily. you can gain pounds, and lose them the next day, so its unfair for them to focus on every pound.
They know that. They do it to control how big amount of pounds give you each food you eat, or how ot bloats you. So they can reduce the food and give you something 'better'. They actually have a point
females weight fluctuates during their period, mine at times by 3 kg. so it is actually dumb to weigh someone everyday. in trainees, muscles build up, they also make you weigh more. they should measure the body fat if they feel the need to measure anything
@@sofia_rms it is very stressful, momo from twice said she was told to lose a lot of weight in a short amount of time that she only ate ice cubes. She was so afraid to sleep, which causes even more stress, because she thought she wouldnt wake up.
I think it's because like if you debut and lots of people find you attractive and that's a big reason you're famous, they don't wanna see you dating someone? Idk
@@elenav.5470 yeah true there are many fans who will get jealous if you are an idol that would date which means those "fans" will not support you anymore becasue of that jealousy because as a fan you would think: " I was the one who made you famous, I am the person who supported you long before your girlfriend did!!!WHY NOT DATE ME OPPA OR ELSE I WILL NOT SUPPORT YOU ANYMORE" so yeah that is why Companies forbid idols to date or else they would lose money because of those crazy ass "fans". As fan you are supposed to be happy with your idol dating because if your idol is happy, then that should be enough for a real fan.
The whole basis of idol culture is built on them being your ideal boyfriend/girlfriend. Changing this aspect of kpop is kind of changing what an idol is and what they do.
In the next video, could you talk about how some groups only start getting payed after 3 YEARS after their debut? I don't understand how that's not illegal since they are technically working already. Thanks girl, love this series!
You're paying for a debt - all investments made by the company. You're technically getting paid, but your salary goes to your debt. Essentially, it's like you loaned and the collateral is you/trainee.
the training itself is a loan.so once u make money u pay it first.. i heard that big company like big3 and some other one didnt do that,like when u become their trainee company investing on you and doesnt take charge for all money they spend for vocal training,dance,etc etc.and when u debut and make money you get your payment right away
Awesome series!! This is the side of kpop that doesn't normally get a lot of exposure, because us fans tend to focus on the success stories and not the harsh realities of the industry. Idol life is crazy - lots of respect to you for having to go through all of that. I wish you all the best for whatever path you decide on
With how technology, social media, self-expressionism, and entrepreneurship is booming now (and expected to grow in the future) with patience and effort it is *definitely possible to succeed in music on your own* without the BS that companies put you through. Not only will you get most of your income, but you will also have *creative freedom.* You'll be able to enjoy doing what you've wanted to do all along: music. The whole point of being an "artist" is to *express yourself creatively.* The way the industry seems to function right now goes against that. It's more like turning people into animatronics -- animated robots, rather than letting them actively communicate with people through music. It's like forcing a painter to paint exactly what he / she sees in a photograph rather than "how" he / she personally sees it. There's no expression in doing this and it's the most suffocating feeling. *Artists need to breathe to make art.* Artists thrive on self-expression. When I hear about *the suicides, the deaths, the insane dieting, and depression* that kpop celebs and trainees go through, it's heartbreaking. The way the industry treats these people by depriving them of basic human rights and giving them constant mental abuse is disgusting. Driving someone towards suicide and psychologically abusing someone *are crimes that stands in court. But the industry dodges responsibility* for this through its contracts. There should be some kind of workers' Union or organization to be on top of that since it's literally driving people to their graves. Anyway, *with the freedom you have now, enjoy it and be the person you want to be.* Be happy and live your own life being as free as you possibly can. You have my, and all your other subscribers' and fans', support. Go for it and don't look back. Stay tough, hang in there, and *keep singing* 💞💕✨👍😊
I plan to do this in the future. Instead of auditioning for companies, I'll just post my music on youtube or whatever for fun and if it works then it works but if it doesnt then it doesnt, I just like music a lot anyway. Personally I've though about becoming a trainee and its not really something I desire, but if I did then the part I would desire is being in a group, but you can do that without really needing to be in a company. I love my creative freedom and wouldnt wanna give it up to be given cheesy songs i cant put my own creativity and thought into. :)
7:30 JYP stated that JYPE doesn't, he banned it. But the anti-talent-poaching rule applies. Also, it really was interesting when a member said something like: "Funny how the two of us never been roommates until now, 4 years post-debut, in an overseas show.
I can imagine the stress that trainees went through on dieting esp. if they're not naturally skinny. Being skilled is alr a pressure itself. I have a big body, and even when I eat less than ppl surrounding me, I gain weight. Sad reality. But just so you know Christine, I'll support you in this whatever path you choose. Don't stop being real 😊❤
Very interesting series....but I do feel like I would want to know more what YOU personally went through... like did you have a easy time adjusting or did you feel like it was difficult.. Did you meet people you connected with while you were training? what was your contract like? How did your style change? BUT if it’s too personal i understand and respect that. Or if this is more geared towards people who might want to be a trainee..that make sense.
Hey no problem~ To answer those questions most of the things I stated were personal experiences except the dating/phone inspection/ my schedule was different. But as to your questions, I did have trouble adjusting like getting used to the new environment and also language and cultural barriers. I did met a couple of people I connected with but I think that was after the debut because I got to know more people. My style changed in the kind of brands/fit/ vibe changed. I was always a casual clothes type of girl but I think when I was trainee my style shifted to more of a bolder look/ a look were you try to stand out a little bit. At the same time it had to be comfortable enough to practice in.
I'm so thankful for this video and other videos like this on UA-cam. When I was really young, I desperately wanted to be a kpop star, and I even tried to convince my mom to let me become a kpop star (LOL). My mom said that the kpop lifestyle was short-lived and she was adamantly against it. We fought over it for a really long time, but I'm SO THANKFUL my mom was strict and levelheaded. Now, I'm in my second year of law school, and I feel so blessed that I can explore my own dreams and aspirations. Thank you for sharing this video!
I have so much respect for trainees and idols. The stuff that they have to endure sounds so miserable. Do some of the rules ease up the longer you train? Because the trainees that train for a long time like 10 years not being able to talk to guys and follow these strict rules for that long seems miserable. I can’t imagine doing that. Plus some of these rules are still in effect when they debut. Also, I know this is a weird question butI’m curious about how girl trainees and idols deal with periods. For me periods kill me lol like I can’t function properly on my period. Do they put them on birth control or something to stop them? I know I got a birth control shot that stopped mine. So I wonder if that’s what they do. Thank you for this series. It’s so interesting to hear an what goes on behind the scenes!!
jenna b As for it easing up in some cases there are some things that ease up. As for the period it’s usually something you have to deal with on your own but if you have severe pain sometimes you can take it a little easy on practice but like I said it’s different for each companyz
These videos really open my my eyes to why the kpop industry is so stressful for many idols and trainees.Being on a food budget, dieting, social commutation, income, investments, debt, is alot I will always keep this in mind knowing the true side of kpop.
Your series is kind of eye-opening and it really opened up another aspect of the Kpop industry that many us are still unaware of. I've been into Kpop for a long time now, but its a first for me to hear about the many things you talked about in your series. Thanks for deciding to do this series ❤️ it's really informative and I appreciate you sharing your experiences with us as well ❤️ I have mad respect for you, the idols, and all other trainees out there. (I also read from another comment that you're planning to release your own music in the near future! I just wanted to say GOOD LUCK and I know it will be GREAT ❤️ Can't wait to hear it!)
practicing from 6am to 9pm? this is why i have so much respect for other artists/ groups whatever their company is, big or small, bc im aware of how hard they've been working and how much they've given up even just for training and thank you christine for this video it really helps us understand idols more tho i wish the government or ent companies needs to reconsider other stuffs since y'all are human beings too
As a fan I think we always suspect how hard it is for idols but to hear it from someone with experience, it's really shocking! Another really great video 😚
People only see the glamorous part of idols and not this part that you're giving to us. I still think it's something that I would like to embark on and try (I ditched my first audition for this one company cuz I feel I wasn't ready) but it does make me think why some members got out of their contract make their own music and why others have continued to stay and whatnot. I have so many questions
Honestly speaking the texting thing is insane..... like, my closest friends are dudes and I've never been interested in dating....it's just not a priority if mine....wow.
thats bad ㅠㅠ its really sad , like its the path they choose and they cant just go against it .. they really fight hard and even harder when they debut cause they need to remain and to become successful like i really felt the stress just by hearing you ugh the suffer is real ... big respect
soobeanie_ exactly , i feel like knowing its the path they choose by themselves helps them to have more strengths somehow , hope companies to go easy on them ...
i go to a workshop that's basically like low key "kpop training" and so i get to live my passion without having such strict rules and just learn and learn. one day i hope though that i can experience kpop training since i'm somewhat used to everything you've already listed. i know its gonna be hard, but i have this habit of pushing myself and i think thats going to help me here.
I would like to know how it is a trainee day, no video on UA-cam talks about it, I'm very curious how it would be a trainee day, I mean you get to the company and what you do or what are the schedules and that things, like the routine
Wow major props to you for sticking it out I would not have had the patience. Seems like a pretty damm brutal career thinking that you may or may not debut. I would probably get home sick too. Thanks for sharing your experience👍😁 looking forward to more of these videos have a nice day! Keep up the good work
Thank you so much Christine for sharing your experiences in the kpop idol industry. this video made me understand more of the lives of my kpop idols (i'm a ONCE!). Even though you didn't came from the big3 companies, i can see that you also gone through a lot of hardships and sacrifices. I really look up to kpop idols (former kpop idols) because they have a very very strong will to reach their dreams/goals. 🧡 Now we can really see that it takes passion and dedication to be an idol. I think this also goes with anything in life. ✨
Woah about dating why do I think about Miyeon (G)I-DLE.. I've heard that she got kicked out from the company because she's dating with yg male trainee.
no omg she wasn’t kicked out for dating. She left because she was frustrated about her debut being delayed for 3 years and she trained for almost 6 years. She left and dated the dude she wasn’t kicked out. Stop spreading rumors u r not sure about.
I think the small income for your meals are only in small companies. I think twice just said the company deducts credits from them when they get food and stuff at the cafeteria.
Hey Christine, love the vid. Just a suggestion, I think you should let the people contribute for the subtitle because I heard a lot of teenage girls/guys all over the world wanted to become a kpop idol nowadays. Cheers!
Seriously considering becoming a trainee...but my mom doesn't think I should since so many people go through nerve wreaking and confusing shit. I think I have what it takes but I know that if I don't make it then it'll just shatter my confidence, plus I have my own dreams and things I want to accomplish. I'm really grateful. Thanks for making this video. It helped a lot
Thank you for being honest. I've listened and read different stories. I don't think I've could of last. Sounds too stressful and awful way to be treated🥺 I feel bad for those who get in so much debt and never debut or debut and disband after a few comebacks.
Tbh, this is a very interesting series. Like most of us didn’t have any idea that idols do that stuffs. Thanks for sharing christine unnie 💕 Looking forward for more great videos on your channel! And btw, I love how joan unnie help you to film this.
Thank you for the amazing insider perspective. You ought to be extremely proud of yourself for coming through to the other side stronger and wiser. Wishing you nothing but the very best for your future endeavours.
I'm going to be auditioning and honestly these types of videos help me a lot. It helps me be somewhat prepared for the hardships as a trainee if I become one.
kpopanator audition for JYP. Their trainee system has changed for the better and they even have a new building and an organic cafeteria. Trainees eat free
Thank you for such a unique and interesting insight into the kpop world. I am from Australia myself and kpop is gaining some traction there. I have read about the horrendous training routine trainees have to go through to become kpop idols. It seems like you have to be insanely strong to survive. It sad to hear how these companies treats idols/trainees like slaves. Most idols I know seem very curtiouse and kind. Well done for fighting back ❤
Tania R Have you heard about the new JYP trainee system? I have read some trainee stories and they were all TERRIBLE but a lot of them were from the past. It used to be rreeaallyy bad. Read about Stella from SM Entertainment 😭😭
This is so new for me! I mean some of the stories that you talked about but a lot things i didnt know.. i respect you and those trainees or idols a lot!
love the intro & how you want to film alone even though joan is there as one of your biggest fan and mentor, i love your series and i genuinely see the hard work you're putting on for your channel
Sounds exactly like forced labour for little pay. They know how bad these young people want to be idols so they take advantage of that. I think most people wanting that lifestyle know of these hardships so it’s easy to say to them, “ You have no right to complain, it’s what you wanted.” But it doesn’t make these things right or warranted. These situations can seriously impact ones long term health, especially when these bodies are going through puberty and major physical and hormonal changes. I hope the companies change, I think some of these things are ok within reason but to this extent, it’s abuse. You should never have control over another’s personal life unless it’s endangering them and their group, dieting should be done healthily and under a doctors supervision if underage, and forcing long practices unless they absolutely want to should never be done as it compromises the persons immune system and muscle healing time. How can they expect perfection when they’re training these hungry and exhausted people? An empty stomach and a tired brain doesn’t help. And forced weigh ins are practically begging them to have long lasting severe body image issues. I know image is extremely important since it is what initially attracts new fans, but for the love of god, do it in a healthy way. Trainees train for such a long time so that’s enough time to shape them into what they want, no need to be so harsh and use unhealthy methods.
wow that is so sad for Idol trainee I know those Kpop Idol are going through right now this is upset for young trainees I hope everything be ok in the Kpop industry !!!!! also I am very so worried that 12 years old girl got in the Kpop industry I wish her good and god bless and fighting !!!!
When i get to know stuff like this my respect for kpop idols just increase more and more like i can't even imagine how they survive this much...... health is our no.1 priority but to make your dreams come true the hard work they have to do and starve is insane :(
Love this series! It's so interessting! But I would love to hear a bit more about your personal experiences like how long did you train and what was the longest and the shortes trainee period of your group members? was there a huge difference? And I also would love to hear something about the traing itself! Like did you had a certain weekly schedule, or what kind of "lessons" did you had... only singing and dancing? what was the proportion between the dancing and singing lessons? Did you work 7 days a week? How was the dance training organized? was there a dance teacher or did you practice all by yourselves? what did the practice look like... did you prepare dance covers of older kpop songs? I'm really interessted in that! Can't wait for another video!
Each member had different amounts of training from 1month to 6 months. You have dance practice, the most I would say mmmm to be honest I didnt have a lot of lessons. The company at the time only provided dance lessons and singing we just had to practice ourselves. Usually the dance teacher teaches us choreo we run through it together with her and then practice ourselves on days we didnt have lessons.thats for my company
The diet part if it all broke my heart tbh..it truly hurts to know that a young person, with changes in their body, has to go through weighing themselves every day and worrying about their weight fluctuating even just slightly. Beauty standards are the worst in Kpop. Nothing could beat self-esteem issues or eating disorders.
I'm sure other people have commented on this before, but whenever I hear about trainees and the whole "not allowed to text people of the opposite gender" .......... what if the person is gay/in a same-sex relationship? lol
How do you keep in touch with your family if you’re the only one who moved to Korea to train? Will the companies allow social media for just that one instance, to keep in touch with family? If they do allow that, do they allow you to keep in touch with them on a regular basis?
It varies for each company but if that is the case they will let you keep in contact with them. If cell phones are really not allowed jn their company trainee rules you will either have to find another way to contact them via email or Ive seen cases making an agreement to call once a week.
There was a girl (I forgot her name) she also talked about her trainee days and she wasn’t allowed to have to contact to her family. On her birthday her father came to the company’s doors and was sent back.
ann It depends on the company. Rules change depending on the company and even some dieting is harsher than other companies. I know for sure that JYP is different from when Miss A/GOT7/TWICE/& Wonder Girls were trainees.
He said he did it secretly. He did it to pay for his college but got into an accident while working as a delivery boy. When bighit inquired about his shoulder injury, he admitted that he had been working to pay his tuition fees. The company said that he should have told them about it sooner and were willing to pay for his tuition.
I do sympathize with idols and trainees because of the possibilities, post-idol life. Especially for the ones, whose careers never took off after they debuted. A gazillion groups and soloists, but not all of them will have successful careers. Just like any other music industry.
It’s crazy that I know all that stuff .. I even tried it out at home like strict rules and practice the hole day for months .. and I still want to became an idol
In regards to food what you said honestly doesn't seem that bad, like sure if you're eating out all day it's obviously not going to cover it, but if you can save it just once that's over $50 a week, which for one person should be more than enough to get by, especially if you're willing to live frugally. Like honestly, how much a loaf of bread, or a bag of rice, a few vegetables and some meat or fish? Obviously your diet will change your intake, but you can get by pretty well on these basic staples, and, unless their prices are massively different in Korea, I'm pretty sure they fall within price range.
Really sucks how cyclical really strict beauty standards are. Hopefully it continues to improve. Fan culture needs to change too though; kinda gross that the fantasy of availability is still so profitable and only seems to get worse as the accessibility of forming parasocial relationships increases.
Hi. I really enjoyed this series 😍 if you don't mind I would loveee to see the positive side or the good things of becoming idols that makes you glad you choose that way.
you should do a serie about the good things about being trainee or idol or I´m going start thinking that idols and trainnes sufers alot If I was rich and if I had a chance to be a CEO I would treat my group like they were my own daughters/sons what are the other Blady members doing ? Giru doesn´t update her instagram for about 1 year do you know news about her?
bruno silva There are good things too of course but I did want to inform people on just some of my experiences too. The members are all well. Some continue to walk down this pass and others plan on walking down different paths. I cant give detail as to it is their private life but they are all working really hard at what they are trying to do.
14:14 Jessica Jung said in "Shine" that the trainees would wear a full face of makeup during dance practice and exercise and that trainers and teachers didn't like it if you started sweating, because it'd ruin your makeup and it would make you look less "professional".
Alright... being a trainee sounds like you no longer have human rights. I feel sorry for all these really young trainees who have do work under this psychological and physical stressful circumstances.
Kpop companies: don't talk to girls, dont look at girls, don't text girls, don't date
Also kpop companies: now emotionally sing this song about how much you love a girl and how much you miss her
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So true 😂
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The hypocrisy is reeaal
my thoughts exactly
I really don't understand how the companies make idols sing about love so much but are not allowed to experience it themselves. Makes me really sad tbh.
Yea like once rm said "how could u expect us to write a love song if u dont allow us to love?"
Omg!! Monika amo tus videos!♥️ me has inspirado mucho!
actually i think for jyp the trainees are allowed to date but only three years after their debut
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@Markus Alexzander definitely, I've been using InstaFlixxer for months myself :D
huge respect for any idol that acually made it through the entire training period. Like you guys must be invincible.
Yesss respect ✊🏻
jihyo
@@aloha_lax true jihyo😩
The government needs to start setting up regulations on how they treat people and what is legal to put in a contract. A lot of this sounds so one sided to the agency and is simply abuse. The modeling industry is beginning to change and this needs to as well. It's never okay to treat a human being likes an object with rights.
yes, a lot of things I've heard about this industry sounds very de-humanizing and really not much better than some various bad parts of history.
I think the lesser known companies are worse. But all are strict at some point
The sad thing is that the whole music industry or any kind of “creative/entertaining” industry works like this. So everything should be changed everywhere to treating humans as humans.
Can you imagine the trainee life being a thing in America? Every parent would put their foot down and take the agency to court. I wish Korean parents were more willing to do that for their kids.
Fang Sakuu But the kpop industry in particular is abusive and the most booming and popular these days. It just has to change. But some fans don’t even care.
dating in kpop industry is like doing a crime while love itself are pure feeling. I just still dont understand abt this until now.
😢😢 true. Thanks for watching
right the backlash that hyuna got for telling people she was dating the one dude from a boy group and hes in her group was a bigger shock for me .. also the amount of events she missed out on .. oh lord... glad she got signed to some other label now..
Bcs idols are supposed to love their fans only, who give them their living. Not their GFs.
Imagine you buy tons of albums, spend lotta money to meet someone's boyfriend for 5 mins.
Every fans knows deep within that they dont support their idols for their music.
Music indeed play important rules, but not the #1 reason.
Dating is ok in k-pop if youre established or not an idol (artists). 2PM and SNSD dated, BigBang dated or even married, IU dated.
Hyuna dated, which is ok for her but not his bf, rookie group w/ smaller fanbase which still growing. Feel bad for his team. He got the pussy but the rest of the team are left with undecided career.
nah, even Sungmin from Super Junior got so much hate when he got married he barely gets the work he once has and will probably officially leave the group when his contract ends. these are grown men in their 30s
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Regarding Sungmin:
1) Some ELF were upset with Sungmin because wanted to get married right before enlisting which cut Mamacita promotions short.
2) Some ELF were also upset with Sungmin because SUPER JUNIOR had no clue that Sungmin was even dating and engaged until he announced it to the public
As much as I love kpop, half of this is honestly horrendous. I’ve always suspected these kind of rules but it’s interesting to hear you talking about it!
*how are they expecting idols to write good love songs when they arent allowed to love?*
Word most if their love songs are kinder sloppy it has no feeling no emotion they need some experience like my man Usher and chris Browne lol
@@shantel9392 Chris Brown the trash that beat up Rihanna. He still has fans??
Love doesn't have any connection with dating love is from our heart we don't have to date to fall in love cuz love is so natural we can fall in love with someone even if they don't know our existensy we can stop dating but we can't stop our heart to love someone
OMG I RELATE SO MUCH >
Ive been watching your channel these days too!! Miss ya~~^^💕
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haha, I just came from one of your videos
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i never really understood why the kpop companies weight you daily. you can gain pounds, and lose them the next day, so its unfair for them to focus on every pound.
honeysana DIA has a scale in the kitchen. ChaeYeon Doesn’t even the way that she wants 😭. She faints so many times in one month and it’s depressing
They know that. They do it to control how big amount of pounds give you each food you eat, or how ot bloats you. So they can reduce the food and give you something 'better'. They actually have a point
females weight fluctuates during their period, mine at times by 3 kg. so it is actually dumb to weigh someone everyday. in trainees, muscles build up, they also make you weigh more. they should measure the body fat if they feel the need to measure anything
@@janafrgalova5144 interesting, but this must be so mentally stressful for the idols
@@sofia_rms it is very stressful, momo from twice said she was told to lose a lot of weight in a short amount of time that she only ate ice cubes. She was so afraid to sleep, which causes even more stress, because she thought she wouldnt wake up.
I'm a long time kpop fan and I have NEVER understood the dating thing. Like why does it even matter as long as the person is working hard...
Thanks for watchingg
@@soobeanie of course! Love you and this series!
I think it's because like if you debut and lots of people find you attractive and that's a big reason you're famous, they don't wanna see you dating someone? Idk
@@elenav.5470 yeah true there are many fans who will get jealous if you are an idol that would date which means those "fans" will not support you anymore becasue of that jealousy because as a fan you would think: " I was the one who made you famous, I am the person who supported you long before your girlfriend did!!!WHY NOT DATE ME OPPA OR ELSE I WILL NOT SUPPORT YOU ANYMORE" so yeah that is why Companies forbid idols to date or else they would lose money because of those crazy ass "fans". As fan you are supposed to be happy with your idol dating because if your idol is happy, then that should be enough for a real fan.
The whole basis of idol culture is built on them being your ideal boyfriend/girlfriend. Changing this aspect of kpop is kind of changing what an idol is and what they do.
And what if you’re gay? Lmao I’d be freely texting all my girlies
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING
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probably thats why so many boys are gay
@@TheHeninhardenne What do you mean there aren't that many boys that are gay in kpop?
Take heechul as role model😂✌🏻
You look like moonbyul (mamamoo) and jisoo (blackpink)
Victoria Hutchinson she doesn’t look like Jisoo at all. Search up a pic of Jisoo, kid.
@@eaglechild4661 I think she has moonbyul's nose and lips, and jisoo's eyes. Her makeup in this video is similar to how jisoo does it.
Eagle Child she kinda look like jisoo especially her eyes lmao tf u talking about🙄
@Maria Muhebzada fortunately
She kinda looks like nayeon (twice) + jisoo (black pink) + moonbyul (mamamoo)
She looks slightly low-key like jisoo
And her voice
Nayeon(Twice)💜
parkjihoon eyebrows too
Rice loving asian ummm no. She looks nothing like Jisoo.
Not at all
In the next video, could you talk about how some groups only start getting payed after 3 YEARS after their debut? I don't understand how that's not illegal since they are technically working already. Thanks girl, love this series!
Yes I dont know about the nxt video but I do plan on talking about that!
You're paying for a debt - all investments made by the company. You're technically getting paid, but your salary goes to your debt.
Essentially, it's like you loaned and the collateral is you/trainee.
the training itself is a loan.so once u make money u pay it first..
i heard that big company like big3 and some other one didnt do that,like when u become their trainee company investing on you and doesnt take charge for all money they spend for vocal training,dance,etc etc.and when u debut and make money you get your payment right away
Also Jackson (Got7) : I learned korean culture by dATinG
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Awesome series!! This is the side of kpop that doesn't normally get a lot of exposure, because us fans tend to focus on the success stories and not the harsh realities of the industry. Idol life is crazy - lots of respect to you for having to go through all of that. I wish you all the best for whatever path you decide on
Thanks for watchinggg 🤗🤗
Her: Mentions debuting after training for a month
Me: Loona-
Please make idol school life please.. how thy manage school and schedule, and they friendship life in school
I'm laughing in bisexual. There's no way to stop me.
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Oh my god 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmao me
Im wheezed 🤣
With how technology, social media, self-expressionism, and entrepreneurship is booming now (and expected to grow in the future) with patience and effort it is *definitely possible to succeed in music on your own* without the BS that companies put you through.
Not only will you get most of your income, but you will also have *creative freedom.* You'll be able to enjoy doing what you've wanted to do all along: music.
The whole point of being an "artist" is to *express yourself creatively.* The way the industry seems to function right now goes against that. It's more like turning people into animatronics -- animated robots, rather than letting them actively communicate with people through music.
It's like forcing a painter to paint exactly what he / she sees in a photograph rather than "how" he / she personally sees it. There's no expression in doing this and it's the most suffocating feeling. *Artists need to breathe to make art.* Artists thrive on self-expression.
When I hear about *the suicides, the deaths, the insane dieting, and depression* that kpop celebs and trainees go through, it's heartbreaking. The way the industry treats these people by depriving them of basic human rights and giving them constant mental abuse is disgusting.
Driving someone towards suicide and psychologically abusing someone *are crimes that stands in court. But the industry dodges responsibility* for this through its contracts. There should be some kind of workers' Union or organization to be on top of that since it's literally driving people to their graves.
Anyway, *with the freedom you have now, enjoy it and be the person you want to be.* Be happy and live your own life being as free as you possibly can. You have my, and all your other subscribers' and fans', support. Go for it and don't look back.
Stay tough, hang in there, and *keep singing* 💞💕✨👍😊
ai i wow 😮
I plan to do this in the future. Instead of auditioning for companies, I'll just post my music on youtube or whatever for fun and if it works then it works but if it doesnt then it doesnt, I just like music a lot anyway. Personally I've though about becoming a trainee and its not really something I desire, but if I did then the part I would desire is being in a group, but you can do that without really needing to be in a company. I love my creative freedom and wouldnt wanna give it up to be given cheesy songs i cant put my own creativity and thought into. :)
7:30 JYP stated that JYPE doesn't, he banned it. But the anti-talent-poaching rule applies.
Also, it really was interesting when a member said something like: "Funny how the two of us never been roommates until now, 4 years post-debut, in an overseas show.
the military quivers when they hear about the trainee experience
I can imagine the stress that trainees went through on dieting esp. if they're not naturally skinny. Being skilled is alr a pressure itself. I have a big body, and even when I eat less than ppl surrounding me, I gain weight. Sad reality. But just so you know Christine, I'll support you in this whatever path you choose. Don't stop being real 😊❤
Thanks for all the support 🙏🙏🙏
Very interesting series....but I do feel like I would want to know more what YOU personally went through... like did you have a easy time adjusting or did you feel like it was difficult.. Did you meet people you connected with while you were training? what was your contract like? How did your style change? BUT if it’s too personal i understand and respect that. Or if this is more geared towards people who might want to be a trainee..that make sense.
Hey no problem~ To answer those questions most of the things I stated were personal experiences except the dating/phone inspection/ my schedule was different. But as to your questions, I did have trouble adjusting like getting used to the new environment and also language and cultural barriers. I did met a couple of people I connected with but I think that was after the debut because I got to know more people. My style changed in the kind of brands/fit/ vibe changed. I was always a casual clothes type of girl but I think when I was trainee my style shifted to more of a bolder look/ a look were you try to stand out a little bit. At the same time it had to be comfortable enough to practice in.
@@soobeanie thank you!
*_This is so interesting. I am enjoying this series!_*
Glad you like it 😘😘
I'm so thankful for this video and other videos like this on UA-cam. When I was really young, I desperately wanted to be a kpop star, and I even tried to convince my mom to let me become a kpop star (LOL). My mom said that the kpop lifestyle was short-lived and she was adamantly against it. We fought over it for a really long time, but I'm SO THANKFUL my mom was strict and levelheaded. Now, I'm in my second year of law school, and I feel so blessed that I can explore my own dreams and aspirations. Thank you for sharing this video!
I have so much respect for trainees and idols. The stuff that they have to endure sounds so miserable. Do some of the rules ease up the longer you train? Because the trainees that train for a long time like 10 years not being able to talk to guys and follow these strict rules for that long seems miserable. I can’t imagine doing that. Plus some of these rules are still in effect when they debut.
Also, I know this is a weird question butI’m curious about how girl trainees and idols deal with periods. For me periods kill me lol like I can’t function properly on my period. Do they put them on birth control or something to stop them? I know I got a birth control shot that stopped mine. So I wonder if that’s what they do.
Thank you for this series. It’s so interesting to hear an what goes on behind the scenes!!
jenna b As for it easing up in some cases there are some things that ease up. As for the period it’s usually something you have to deal with on your own but if you have severe pain sometimes you can take it a little easy on practice but like I said it’s different for each companyz
These videos really open my my eyes to why the kpop industry is so stressful for many idols and trainees.Being on a food budget, dieting, social commutation, income, investments, debt, is alot I will always keep this in mind knowing the true side of kpop.
Your series is kind of eye-opening and it really opened up another aspect of the Kpop industry that many us are still unaware of. I've been into Kpop for a long time now, but its a first for me to hear about the many things you talked about in your series. Thanks for deciding to do this series ❤️ it's really informative and I appreciate you sharing your experiences with us as well ❤️ I have mad respect for you, the idols, and all other trainees out there.
(I also read from another comment that you're planning to release your own music in the near future! I just wanted to say GOOD LUCK and I know it will be GREAT ❤️ Can't wait to hear it!)
Thank you so much! Thanks for the support too and it was a little out of my comfort zone but I still wanted to make a point across! ❤️
@@soobeanie I'm glad you did ❤ looking forward to the upcoming episodes! 🙆
practicing from 6am to 9pm? this is why i have so much respect for other artists/ groups whatever their company is, big or small, bc im aware of how hard they've been working and how much they've given up even just for training and thank you christine for this video it really helps us understand idols more tho i wish the government or ent companies needs to reconsider other stuffs since y'all are human beings too
As a fan I think we always suspect how hard it is for idols but to hear it from someone with experience, it's really shocking! Another really great video 😚
Jenna Blockley it varies for everyone/every company and there are definitely good parts too. 🙌
People only see the glamorous part of idols and not this part that you're giving to us. I still think it's something that I would like to embark on and try (I ditched my first audition for this one company cuz I feel I wasn't ready) but it does make me think why some members got out of their contract make their own music and why others have continued to stay and whatnot. I have so many questions
Wow this is a good comment!!! Mmm the company always has different approaches when they let someone go so it is always different
Honestly speaking the texting thing is insane..... like, my closest friends are dudes and I've never been interested in dating....it's just not a priority if mine....wow.
thats bad ㅠㅠ its really sad , like its the path they choose and they cant just go against it .. they really fight hard and even harder when they debut cause they need to remain and to become successful like i really felt the stress just by hearing you ugh the suffer is real ... big respect
lee hanri there are up sides too! But you are totally right they endure that because it’s something that they want to do or dreamed of
soobeanie_ exactly , i feel like knowing its the path they choose by themselves helps them to have more strengths somehow , hope companies to go easy on them ...
i go to a workshop that's basically like low key "kpop training" and so i get to live my passion without having such strict rules and just learn and learn. one day i hope though that i can experience kpop training since i'm somewhat used to everything you've already listed. i know its gonna be hard, but i have this habit of pushing myself and i think thats going to help me here.
I would like to know how it is a trainee day, no video on UA-cam talks about it, I'm very curious how it would be a trainee day, I mean you get to the company and what you do or what are the schedules and that things, like the routine
I would imagine no trainees are allowed to post about it ://
Wow major props to you for sticking it out I would not have had the patience. Seems like a pretty damm brutal career thinking that you may or may not debut. I would probably get home sick too. Thanks for sharing your experience👍😁 looking forward to more of these videos have a nice day! Keep up the good work
Have a nice day and thanks for watching
Thank you so much Christine for sharing your experiences in the kpop idol industry. this video made me understand more of the lives of my kpop idols (i'm a ONCE!). Even though you didn't came from the big3 companies, i can see that you also gone through a lot of hardships and sacrifices. I really look up to kpop idols (former kpop idols) because they have a very very strong will to reach their dreams/goals. 🧡
Now we can really see that it takes passion and dedication to be an idol. I think this also goes with anything in life. ✨
5:37 this directly reflects recent events with hyuna and pentagon's e'dawn. cube must've been really pissed
Thanks for watching 🙌
Woah about dating why do I think about Miyeon (G)I-DLE.. I've heard that she got kicked out from the company because she's dating with yg male trainee.
no omg she wasn’t kicked out for dating. She left because she was frustrated about her debut being delayed for 3 years and she trained for almost 6 years. She left and dated the dude she wasn’t kicked out. Stop spreading rumors u r not sure about.
Thank you for sharing your experiences and being true, giving us an inside view on what the kpop industry consists of.
🤗🤗❤️
NO problem~~^^
If a company doesn't pick you to debut, do you still have to pay for your training classes?
I heard that yg,sm and jyp trains people for free. Idk about others
Tbh they should not I mean your just training those things should be free
I don't think so, I've heard idols pay their debts by earning after debut.
@@reyrey5259 i think that is only for small companies
@@chynna7535 oh wow
I'VE BEEN REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS SERIES !! 💕💕
odd koyya thanks~~~^^ stayed tuned for more ~
I think the small income for your meals are only in small companies. I think twice just said the company deducts credits from them when they get food and stuff at the cafeteria.
Hey Christine, love the vid. Just a suggestion, I think you should let the people contribute for the subtitle because I heard a lot of teenage girls/guys all over the world wanted to become a kpop idol nowadays. Cheers!
Okay!! I shall try that soon!!
4:38 - 4:50 *laughs in lesbian*
LMAO SAME
my thoughts exactlyyyyy ahahah
I laughed in gay
But how will I text my girlies :(
Omg lol 🤣
Seriously considering becoming a trainee...but my mom doesn't think I should since so many people go through nerve wreaking and confusing shit. I think I have what it takes but I know that if I don't make it then it'll just shatter my confidence, plus I have my own dreams and things I want to accomplish. I'm really grateful. Thanks for making this video. It helped a lot
Thank you for being honest. I've listened and read different stories. I don't think I've could of last. Sounds too stressful and awful way to be treated🥺 I feel bad for those who get in so much debt and never debut or debut and disband after a few comebacks.
Loving this series! Very insightful and interesting 🤗 can't wait for the following episodes 👏🏼
Tbh, this is a very interesting series. Like most of us didn’t have any idea that idols do that stuffs. Thanks for sharing christine unnie 💕 Looking forward for more great videos on your channel! And btw, I love how joan unnie help you to film this.
Thanks so much and yess she is so sweet and supportive
this is out of topic but you look like a mix of jisoo, irene, sunmi and nayeon
yeah as if jisoo and irene had a baby
- nis yesssss
Thank you for the amazing insider perspective. You ought to be extremely proud of yourself for coming through to the other side stronger and wiser. Wishing you nothing but the very best for your future endeavours.
I'm going to be auditioning and honestly these types of videos help me a lot. It helps me be somewhat prepared for the hardships as a trainee if I become one.
kpopanator audition for JYP. Their trainee system has changed for the better and they even have a new building and an organic cafeteria. Trainees eat free
Oh....K-pop idol is super hardㅠㅠ
I'm really proud of you.
Aya thanks for always watching love ya
Thank you for such a unique and interesting insight into the kpop world. I am from Australia myself and kpop is gaining some traction there. I have read about the horrendous training routine trainees have to go through to become kpop idols. It seems like you have to be insanely strong to survive. It sad to hear how these companies treats idols/trainees like slaves. Most idols I know seem very curtiouse and kind. Well done for fighting back ❤
Tania R Have you heard about the new JYP trainee system? I have read some trainee stories and they were all TERRIBLE but a lot of them were from the past. It used to be rreeaallyy bad. Read about Stella from SM Entertainment 😭😭
I LOVE YOU FROM JOAN'S VIDEOS. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU HAD YOUR OWN CHANNEL. I'M SO HAPPY. AND MY NAME I ALSO CHRISTINE.
How...is she so kinddd😊😘💕💕btw...I watched all the videos she uploaded. ..so refreshing
Thank you so much for letting us know about your experience! It’s nice to know what happens behind the scenes.
Thank you for watching and sharing your insight as well ❤️
Just came back from Joan’s video and I must say u really r a true beauty even w/ ur bare face~👍🏻💕
Rigil Deveza Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
I’m enjoying this series so much!
Thank u for providing such a content, i’m glad you’re fine with sharing your story.. keep up the good work🤟🏻
Thanks~~~^^
This is so new for me! I mean some of the stories that you talked about but a lot things i didnt know.. i respect you and those trainees or idols a lot!
I find it really nice that you answer to the comments. Like thank you ❣️
No problem~
You kinda look like Jisoo (from Blackpink)😍💗
love the intro & how you want to film alone even though joan is there as one of your biggest fan and mentor, i love your series and i genuinely see the hard work you're putting on for your channel
It's something must be watched before throwing hate to idols
Thank you sooooo much for sharing your experiences! It’s really interesting learning things that usually you wouldn’t know from trainee life lol
Thank you so much 😊
Sounds exactly like forced labour for little pay. They know how bad these young people want to be idols so they take advantage of that. I think most people wanting that lifestyle know of these hardships so it’s easy to say to them, “ You have no right to complain, it’s what you wanted.” But it doesn’t make these things right or warranted. These situations can seriously impact ones long term health, especially when these bodies are going through puberty and major physical and hormonal changes. I hope the companies change, I think some of these things are ok within reason but to this extent, it’s abuse. You should never have control over another’s personal life unless it’s endangering them and their group, dieting should be done healthily and under a doctors supervision if underage, and forcing long practices unless they absolutely want to should never be done as it compromises the persons immune system and muscle healing time. How can they expect perfection when they’re training these hungry and exhausted people? An empty stomach and a tired brain doesn’t help. And forced weigh ins are practically begging them to have long lasting severe body image issues. I know image is extremely important since it is what initially attracts new fans, but for the love of god, do it in a healthy way. Trainees train for such a long time so that’s enough time to shape them into what they want, no need to be so harsh and use unhealthy methods.
wow that is so sad for Idol trainee I know those Kpop Idol are going through right now this is upset for young trainees I hope everything be ok in the Kpop industry !!!!! also I am very so worried that 12 years old girl got in the Kpop industry I wish her good and god bless and fighting !!!!
When i get to know stuff like this my respect for kpop idols just increase more and more like i can't even imagine how they survive this much...... health is our no.1 priority but to make your dreams come true the hard work they have to do and starve is insane :(
Love this series! It's so interessting! But I would love to hear a bit more about your personal experiences like how long did you train and what was the longest and the shortes trainee period of your group members? was there a huge difference?
And I also would love to hear something about the traing itself! Like did you had a certain weekly schedule, or what kind of "lessons" did you had... only singing and dancing? what was the proportion between the dancing and singing lessons? Did you work 7 days a week? How was the dance training organized? was there a dance teacher or did you practice all by yourselves? what did the practice look like... did you prepare dance covers of older kpop songs? I'm really interessted in that!
Can't wait for another video!
Each member had different amounts of training from 1month to 6 months. You have dance practice, the most I would say mmmm to be honest I didnt have a lot of lessons. The company at the time only provided dance lessons and singing we just had to practice ourselves. Usually the dance teacher teaches us choreo we run through it together with her and then practice ourselves on days we didnt have lessons.thats for my company
The diet part if it all broke my heart tbh..it truly hurts to know that a young person, with changes in their body, has to go through weighing themselves every day and worrying about their weight fluctuating even just slightly. Beauty standards are the worst in Kpop. Nothing could beat self-esteem issues or eating disorders.
christine is like joan's non-existing little sister
👋 I DONT MINDDDDD
I'm sure other people have commented on this before, but whenever I hear about trainees and the whole "not allowed to text people of the opposite gender" .......... what if the person is gay/in a same-sex relationship? lol
eonni keep doing what you love most ❤
🙏 🙏🙏🙏 thank you
Speed 2x helped me out so much😌
// jhope's hope // lol. Thanks
1.5x is better
How do you keep in touch with your family if you’re the only one who moved to Korea to train? Will the companies allow social media for just that one instance, to keep in touch with family? If they do allow that, do they allow you to keep in touch with them on a regular basis?
It varies for each company but if that is the case they will let you keep in contact with them. If cell phones are really not allowed jn their company trainee rules you will either have to find another way to contact them via email or Ive seen cases making an agreement to call once a week.
soobeanie_ thank you so much for the insight! Do you have any idea on the differences between the bigger and smaller companies on this regard?
There was a girl (I forgot her name) she also talked about her trainee days and she wasn’t allowed to have to contact to her family. On her birthday her father came to the company’s doors and was sent back.
hope you'll earn so much money with these vids, because girl you deserve it!!!
I'm so glad I didn't have a hard time and I didn't have the "no dating rule" :)
allysseTV 엘리스TV where you a trainee?
why do i remember suga saying that he worked when he was a trainee? depends on the company?
ann It depends on the company. Rules change depending on the company and even some dieting is harsher than other companies. I know for sure that JYP is different from when Miss A/GOT7/TWICE/& Wonder Girls were trainees.
He said he did it secretly. He did it to pay for his college but got into an accident while working as a delivery boy. When bighit inquired about his shoulder injury, he admitted that he had been working to pay his tuition fees. The company said that he should have told them about it sooner and were willing to pay for his tuition.
@@joannac3191 aww that's really sweet about BigHit, willing to pay for his tuition so he wouldn't have to worry, idk i just find it really sweet
whoa this is such a good video
Thanks for watching
I do sympathize with idols and trainees because of the possibilities, post-idol life. Especially for the ones, whose careers never took off after they debuted.
A gazillion groups and soloists, but not all of them will have successful careers. Just like any other music industry.
When you're a trainee , do they give you money for clothes / makeup ? I mean do they give you money for other purposes than food ?
It’s crazy that I know all that stuff .. I even tried it out at home like strict rules and practice the hole day for months .. and I still want to became an idol
Thank you so much for sharing! Came here from joanday and i dont regret it at all. Looking forward to more of your videos 💕
잘한다 친구야~ 화이팅 🙏🏼🙏🏼
고마워 팅구야~ 나도 너 응원하고있어!! ✊🏻✊🏻
soobeanie_ Hi how are you? I want to know if you want to be a trainee you will pay the company or free?
I was wondering how trainees manage school and training if they’re still in school, thanks so much for making this series !❤️
For those trainees who go to school they often are given a different schedule
It is awesome hearing your experience!!
Thanks for listening to my experience loll🤗
In regards to food what you said honestly doesn't seem that bad, like sure if you're eating out all day it's obviously not going to cover it, but if you can save it just once that's over $50 a week, which for one person should be more than enough to get by, especially if you're willing to live frugally. Like honestly, how much a loaf of bread, or a bag of rice, a few vegetables and some meat or fish? Obviously your diet will change your intake, but you can get by pretty well on these basic staples, and, unless their prices are massively different in Korea, I'm pretty sure they fall within price range.
Really sucks how cyclical really strict beauty standards are. Hopefully it continues to improve. Fan culture needs to change too though; kinda gross that the fantasy of availability is still so profitable and only seems to get worse as the accessibility of forming parasocial relationships increases.
Hi. I really enjoyed this series 😍 if you don't mind I would loveee to see the positive side or the good things of becoming idols that makes you glad you choose that way.
you should do a serie about the good things about being trainee or idol or I´m going start thinking that idols and trainnes sufers alot
If I was rich and if I had a chance to be a CEO I would treat my group like they were my own daughters/sons
what are the other Blady members doing ? Giru doesn´t update her instagram for about 1 year do you know news about her?
bruno silva There are good things too of course but I did want to inform people on just some of my experiences too. The members are all well. Some continue to walk down this pass and others plan on walking down different paths. I cant give detail as to it is their private life but they are all working really hard at what they are trying to do.
14:14 Jessica Jung said in "Shine" that the trainees would wear a full face of makeup during dance practice and exercise and that trainers and teachers didn't like it if you started sweating, because it'd ruin your makeup and it would make you look less "professional".
Alright... being a trainee sounds like you no longer have human rights. I feel sorry for all these really young trainees who have do work under this psychological and physical stressful circumstances.
9:00 Parkinson's Law - work expands to fill up the time allocated to it. Allocate a time, focus 100% then do it within that time.
OH MY GOSH IM EARLY I HAVENT EVEN HIT PLAY BUT I ALREADDDDY LIKED hehe ♥️
Chesca G EARLYBIRD 💕💕
I’m so glad this was on my recommendation! This was honestly very helpful, as I’ve been wanting to become a trainee myself.
Training from 6~AM to 12~ PM 😵😓💦
Aaw I teared up when she did...the struggle was REAL! 😧😧😧
date boys,Kpop companies: don’t text boy, don’t talk to boys, don’t date
Me: are you allowed to text their dad and brothers
Hi Tina! I wanna let you know that I luv this series! Keep up the good work and good luck to you!
Thank you 😊