This explains perfectly why I (INTJ) am so hopeless with oral exams: I love to immerse myself into the subject, building this (almost) comprehensive web of knowledge ... however, nothing is perfect, and I might still have one or two uncertainties. Then come d-day: During the examination, instead of displaying my knowledge, I unconsciously will steer the conversation to my "open points", hoping (unconsciously) that the professor will answer those questions I could not find the answer to in the literature. Even if these turn out to be minor points, or my "discovery" of uncertainty considered a valuable insight, my nerves will be so wracked that the whole exam can turn into a total nightmare
Yeah exactly. I loved learning the grammar and vocabulary and remembered them perfectly in my language lessions. Audio exams were a bit more tricky but I could use my reasoning there, ticking off wrong alternatives one by one But when it came to that I had to react to some spoken sentences in an adequate way in Swedish, English, German, French (languages I learnt at school) I totally froze...
Same lol I avoided it for years, but once I finally implemented it, meditation truly changed my life. I meditate an hour in the morning as the first thing I do, with some deep cleansing breaths, following that with some journaling and it sets my day up for being more connected to myself, focused and present.
Being an INTJ myself, I totally understand. I'll struggle with something until the data all links up, and then all of a sudden the pattern falls into place and understanding is gained all at once. I've experienced this most recently when trying to learn Japanese. I was struggling with sentence structure and meaning, but then the patterns clicked and it is now far easier to understand. Well, I can read it far easier at least.
I experienced a very similar thing while learning Korean. Asian languages in general are just so different from European languages that I rely a lot on intuition to make sense of what I'm reading. Exposing myself for a long time to Korean content generally does the trick, as I absorb a lot of patterns for Ni to make sense of in the background; and after some time, it all falls into place and everything lights up. I, of course, went through some grammar lessons, but there had been some grammar points that I never researched and just grasped intuitively. It's weird but also incredibly satisfying.
that’s exactly me but with maths and literature. If i don’t get one tiny little detail sometimes my understanding feels so forced, but if everything makes sense, its like I’m unstoppable in answering questions. But istg if one thing isn’t clicking the whole system feels wrong…so it’s either I do really well on the assessment like 100% or not so much 😂
INFJ. Can confirm. My focus is on the voids (what's missing). I think this is Ne-Nemesis as well. It's not so much that I see the "picture" is complete...but that I can tell when it is incomplete, and that incompleteness is a source of annoyance. So I am motivated to expose the voids and see what's there.
As a product manager often making negotiations and bringing ideas to table I need to make sure my emails are well written so the other party cannot find any hole to be used against me and company I work for. It's a big responsibility so I, INTJ being INTJ often spend a lot of time reading my emails over and over so there is NO information missing. It's very exhausting, I can tell you, but def rings the bell. Se drains me unless I use it to indulge my Fi. I like to look at pretty things (and people too), so for example I take a stroll and observe birds or sky or trees... It makes me happy.
@@Elodie_N_INTJ_Analyzes heh I'm so fascinated I don't even take pictures 😂 but yeah nature is so beautiful. I love to see the seasons changing, it's so calming.
As an Ni dom (from the fj department, what a complicated way to say Infj weird me), not having enough opportunities everyday to have that going in the first place, finding yourself interupted every 5 minutes either because of the Fe or Se components is quite difficult. And don't get me wrong Fe in nice proportions is just a fabulous thing as it provides me with this sense of being connected to the human species sometimes and not 100% like I'm from Venus or some shit. And Se when under control and not overindulged is good, it's enjoying good fabrics, nice material, tasty food with care. But too much of those two things is easily the worst thing. It's having to feel people's feelings when they're too heavy to bare and feeling depressed by it. It's being stressed by constant noise pollution, I've got headphones thank god. Going on walks has been a blessing for me to have that Ni process going as it pleases while also allowing Se to take in the world with environnement that it likes : Nature, the beach, longues promenades. Sorry I took this as an opportunity to vent a little. I never feel the need to do that but I think I just did. Take care y'all.
I think I understand what you meant and it even made me better understand one thing - just like you are overwhelmed by emotions of others, we can also be overwhelmed by all the external things that need to be solved. I think we INTJs and INFJs are very close as personalities and honestly it somehow makes me feel better that somewhere out there are "my people", if that makes sense. So don't worry about venting out, because this INTJ is glad to read your comment 😊
@@Jooney91 Wholesome. I love you both. All the more reason to remake society into a place that is habitable for socially-delicate personality types (vulnerable to evil personality types and Cluster-B, that like to gang up on them, ESFP and ESFJ in particular); who tend to function as some of its most vital, precious components.
Agreed! 😀 Also... Please research 'narcissitic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissits'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)! European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!! The are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-rape, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim or damsel in distress, creating 'flying-monkeys', and paying others to attack (or at times kill) someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Elliott Till. ISFP (and ESFP) are the most complicit, narcissitic-enablers. ISFP also tend to be 'oblivious-codependants' (look up the definition). SUMMARY: Evil personality: ESFJ, ESTJ [Secretly] Evil and narcissit-friendly gunts/flying-monkey: ISFP, ESFP. ☝️All of them are secretly emotionally-disturbed, hence their need to create conflict (and at other people's expense, truly evil). Spread the word! Thank you. ___________ #Save_Soil
@@Jooney91 Omg this made me blush a little, and I never to that lol ! Plus I'm black how did you do it XD, well thank you so much for this comment anyway. It's nice to read something so nice in such a lonely time period of my life. And you know what you've said about Intjs Te and the burden of having to feel like you gotta problem solve everything that's hapenning on the outside world... it gives me perspective quite frankly, never thought of it this way thanks !
@@Human_01 Thank you for the comment. But let's just remember that evil personality types don't exist, there's just unhealthy people ok ? I get what you mean though but since ppl such as Ni dom users are less frequent of a population it's obviously our responsability to try to leverage ourselves and get what we want out of life, not society to adapt to us quite frankly, it doesn't work the other way around. But thank you so much, I totally get your intention that's what's important, and I kinda love you for it 💗🤌🏾
Lijo, it'd be cool if you could do an interview with INFJinxed as two Ni dom females..like you did with Frank James but with a female. anyways good stuff!
I'm an INTJ going through a divorce right now... My brain has been running at 200% trying to obsessively figure out the "why". I know there isn't a simple answer to it, but it's like a tic that takes over and I throw myself into trying to find an answer at the expense of everything else. It's disruptive and painful and I don't want to keep doing it because nothing of value comes out of it. Exercise, yoga, going outside, anything that distracts my brain from thinking has indeed been helpful.
Recently, happen to me 2 times. The worst is : the main information Se was so obvious, that I missed/ignored it. I was so focus on the goal Ni and certain of me. I bet it's the exact same thing with ISTJ & ISFJ in the Si-Ne axis. The recruiters in the companies and temporary agencies, are so stuck in their procedures Si, that they reject/don't want the others people/skill who could be better, the others possibilities Ne. They do the same misstakes for months, years, and don't see they is something wrong, "It's ok, it's normal, it's the turn over, it's like this". I know why there is "turn-over" in certains companies in France. It's all about MBTI. The frustration to know (Ni) what happen what cause it, and feeling like to be the only one who see it and want resolve it, and not really being able to explain them without being weird for them. Feeling like I live in an other dimension.
ENTJ here. As an Ni-using cousin, I can partly relate to what was said in this video. I am able to easily navigate areas with minimal information, whether that be an unfamiliar dark room or a region where I have never been before. Child Se helps me take basic external infomation and place it in the Ni-spawned puzzle, but it only works half the time. I guess I can describe my Se as a flickering lamp. Provides sufficient light to gather enough infomation, but shouldn't be relied on too much. Ni's part time secretary, if you will.
INFJ here. I'm curious. When you're stepping into something completely new to learn, do you go right to the end of the book, so to speak, to first get a strong/deep understanding of the point of it, its logic and patterns, and then work backward identifying and assembling all the smaller pieces? Because you can see how they all fit together, often times resulting in a different structure, another, often improved way of accomplishing the point? I can't do the "oh, don't worry about understanding what you are being asked to do right now. Just commit it to memory and you'll understand later." I can't do that, in part because I have a rote memory deficiency, but even more so because I NEED to see the big picture in detail, first. For me, learning to do social work is a good example. It wasn't enough to say at the start, that you're here to do good for people and this is what you do, little by little, building toward something bigger and grander. I needed to understand, foremost, what this "doing good" thing looks like. What are the patterns and logic that give this behemoth of an edifice structure and substance? And does it make sense? As an aside, I quickly learned it doesn't. Sentiments weave together to form a narrative that is independent of critical thinking, logic, and reason. It all starts with the feel, who controls that feel, and then builds from there. And it is usually corrupted because of this. But mostly, they want to teach (indoctrinate) you to do A, B, C, D, etc... You're not supposed to jump to the end first, and build backward to create something that is actually consistent with the ideal or stated intent. Sorry, that's a tangent, but you get the idea, I hope. One other general thing I've sussed out from this and other vids of yours. Just about all of my friends are extroverted sensors. I've come to realize it is at least in part because they do much of the sensing work that I otherwise dread doing. For the things that grab my interest, they are a conduit for the sensing, and a partial remedy for that "missing part" you speak of(I think). They also talk a lot allowing me to quietly imbibe and process, which I like.
Absolutely spot on except for the two things in my 2nd paragraph. Also, literally all of my closest friends are extroverted sensors too, ISFPs, ISTPs, and ESTPs (except for one ISTJ whom I’m friends with because we have similar values not because of naturally clicking like the rest). In our friendship groups there are several ESFPs who I’ve also grown up with, but oddly enough I’m not as close with them as the others. One of my closest friends is ISFP MF. Fi masculine is pleasing to me in any relationship. Se masculine is something we both share. The only caveat is the “it all starts the feel” and the “they talk a lot and I’m quiet”. I’m also the talkative one, in the sense that the idiot that is me is unfortunately the one who is responsible for explaining things lol. I wonder if this is also simply just Fe/Te?
@@cczz2172 When I said "It all starts with the feel", I was referring to the world that is social work, not me personally. For me, the feel has to be filtered through reason, logic, and critical thinking in general, before it ever sees the light of day. I think the difference in your second point could likely be down to personality type. If I understand you INTJs, you are strongly inclined to confront whatever inconsistency is placed in front of you? It's difficult for you to lay off it. Whereas we INFJs are more inclined to just roll with the inanity at hand. Or maybe casually point out an inconsistency here or there purely out of curiosity for what that may further reveal of said friend's personal logic or reasoning. But cool, thanks for sharing about your inclination toward S friends, as well.
I absolutely do that. I usually go through the contents page, then the summary of chapters or just look at all the different pictures in the book. Before Diving into it. I have this urge to know what the big picture is before i get into details. The skeleton must be ready for me to put on the rest of the stuff.
Thank you… good analogy but You make it seem like Intj’s want all data to get thing’s done. We are not Intp’s wanting information just for fun…As an Intj I care more that it works (even whit only 98% of the data) way more than the 2% of info missing… I’ll go for the 2% only if they are absolutely necessary for the light to go on.. Intj’s do often cut corners way more than poeple think. P.S. you use a lot your 🙌 in the video… maybe to much this time 😀. Txs
100% haha! Yes 98% of the info is intuitive data, but then we have that 2% sensory we need to slip in the mix. Absolutely aren't looking to gather all of the things... how exhausting haha
As an ENFP and a Ne Dom I find value in the idea of breaking the lost mind wandering by going outside or connecting with the sensory. My mind lock is a never ending branching where I get so far out on a limb it's no longer contextual correct for the original situation.
Want a stress headache? Grind on that last few percent for a few hours. I realized that if you have 90 or 95% done you are far more likely to have at least a ‘good’ answer than anyone around you. That last few % is likely made up of undefined and ill-defined things, emotions, etc. that only lock in the moment the solution is applied. Grounding the solution in reality with sprinkles of realtime external input is an absolute necessity or else like the scene from a Beautiful Mind in which the main character builds a wonderful connection of strings between pictures, places and things with string knowing he’s ‘solved it’ but actually it’s just a cow turd.
I literally cannot start writing because I keep researching vaguely related topics in hopes of finding what’s missing, but then I get more information that links ANOTHER missing piece before I verify the first one and go on wild goose chase after wild goose chase for difficult to find information without even knowing what I’m looking for.
It may serve other ni-users - or anyone - to have a quick look at themselves and see they are in one piece. We're whole already, and so is the world. Ain't nothing missing.
Just know, we are hardwired this way. This process inside our head is moving at light speed most of the times. For me (in conjunction with my "Fe"), it's when dealing with other people and the arts (art is a reflection of what the artist was "feeling" when crafting..., I am reading between the lines or decoding the symbolism) ~INFJ-A
I don’t think you are describing simply Ni. You sound like you are describing Ni Ti loop that can’t solve the puzzle because it is missing information and needs to take a minute to get out of its head and go do something. Go Se around.
@@cczz2172 The biggest aspect of Ni is statistical learning in perception with the use of convergent thinking. Ni and Si both store long-term memory in the hippocampus. Si encodes and recalls episodic and semantic memories which encodes and recalls specific details of individual experiences. Where as, Ni's statistical learning refers to extracting what is common across multiple experiences. "Memory is typically thought of as enabling reminiscence and past experiences. However, memory also informs and guides processing of future experiences...The more the hippocampus predicted the category of an upcoming item, the worse the current item was encoded...Episodic memory allows for vivid recollection and nostalgia about past events, whereas statistical learning leads to more generalized knowledge that affords predictions about new situations." (Statistical Prediction of the Future Impairs Episodic Encoding of the Present) This is why Ni and Si are in direct opposition depending on the stack. The higher the Ni the lower the Si and vice versa. "Statistical learning refers to an unconscious (passive) cognitive process in which repeated patterns, or regularities, are extracted from sensory environment." (Statistical Learning and Its Consequences) Ti is a priori. Meaning you do not need experience to gain the knowledge. Once the concept is known it can be understood. Such as 2+2=4 or all triangles have three sides. These are conceptual truths that are based on language and mathematics. Ti utilizes reflective thinking. It reflects upon the information they have and what they still need to obtain and help them find ways to reduce the gap, as well as it takes in the bigger picture and understands the consequences through conditional thinking (cause and effect, if then statements). Ti is also using deductive reasoning to determine if something is valid. All of these things will help with the analysis, categorizing, clarifying, naming, and understanding through an objective logical framework. The Ni-Ti loop is statistical learning and an objective logical framework to reach a single conclusion or our aha moment. The problem is when we get stuck in analysis paralysis and we can't close the loop because we are missing information, have wrong information, or have conflicting information. This is when we need to get outside of our head and go Se around, as Ni is 100% dependent upon our Se function. And Ti only knows what it has learned, but once a conceptual truth is known, it can be understood without any experience or sense data. So Ti needs to expand on it's language and mathematics and other types of conceptual truths to gain more knowledge.
are you a Libra/Aquarius/Gemini Sun ? I know, I know , I don't follow horoscopes either but astrological profiling is a very compelling subject for me. Im an INTJ myself and i'm curious to understand the differences in patterns among INTJs themselves. i'd very much appreciate any feedback. Thank you. you're channel is excellent btw.
The “context” is what I live for! The missing information game is the bane of my existence. My sister has to grab me, shake me, and say, “The literally reality is…” to snap me out of it.
Oooh man I love that, "it's running in the background" that's why I'm always coming up with things I'm not 'supposed' to know and the mysteries in life don't get experienced as such. It's like the clues are already collected and highlighted and I will only need a very short time to process them to complete my theory, while others need a lot more to back track what's going on.
It sounds like you INTJs are constantly running a Bayesian algorithm to infer missing information. Which is totally cool. But as you (LiJo) realize, the more data you have to work with, the better the algorithm performs.
@@tj-co9go I wrote a reply yesterday, but UA-cam didn't like the link I included to a Wikipedia article on "naive Bayes classifier", so you'll have to search for that. Essentially, you're teaching the computer to play 20 Questions, calculating the most likely probabilities for the missing information based on what is known.
My biggest problem is explaining to someone how I found out the missing information. Sometimes I know things but explaining them requires a deep work compared to some people I guess. I really appreciated the video!'
I got hit with a tidal wave of crap associated with missing information. It's not just one or a few pieces of information, it's so much information, it's a seemingly endless amount, everytime I study to find all the missing information there's even more but I can't move on with my life untill I have all the information I need.
INFJ here. I also search for missing information maniacally. I also know where things are. We were driving in an unknown city. Someone said they would like a big gulp. And I knew the exact exit to get off to find a 7-Eleven. Everyone wanted to know how I knew and I just said I knew, something about the way the highway and how the neighboring area looked. Typical type of area for a 7-Eleven. I've also always said that you could drop me in the middle of an unknown part of a city, and I could find my way home without asking. directions
I was caught in an Ni loop Sunday. Was trying to get how to setup tile sets in a tool I use. It wasn't making any sense as the bitmasks were all correctly set with all conditions covered with which tile should appear... Spent 13h researching the code to get why some combinations create gaps, and why there wasn't any possible combination for usage with multiple sets... Until I figured that we can separate tiles in "layers" in which different sets can have the same bitmask and we sort them out by priority that we can set separated by tiles individually. 13h, non stop. No sleep. No food. It's...insane how much you can put your Se to the side when you get caught in an Ni loop. I'm an entj, so I usually like to take care of myself, my house, and stuff. But this happened in a Sunday when I usually clean my house. And when it ended at Monday...when I saw the entropy taking over my house I was like "how the f*??"
The endless search for that illusive missing piece, the kernel of truth in the shimmering sands. The fear that the work could be all for naught whilst the little things that truly matter on a personal level slip us by... Risk vs reward. I must honestly say I felt a sense of relief of the burden with the prospect of taking a break in the beauty outside. I literally sighed peacefully at your suggestion of taking a break 😅 I did take break today, for at least half an hour. "Well that was fun. Now back to it... **groan**" 🙃 Thank you 😊 Edit: The search itself can be rewarding as well as frustrating. If obsession resembles possession, then perhaps a breather is then called for.
The life of the INTJ is turning over a rock to find 2 more rocks. Then we flip the 2 rocks to find 4 rocks, etc, etc. When enough time passes, we are lost in a sea of rocks. Too many rocks to flip over, but not enough time in the day. Then we become sad. Then, angry at everyone who takes our attention away from rock flipping. It really is a problem.
4:50 this, I've never noticed how often I use pronouns when speaking to people until I met this one person that just constantly gets lost at what I'm saying and I have to remind them, or I might say something out of nowhere in reference to the last thing mentioned by either of us and if it has been a decent length of time they would've forgotten and also make them confused as to what we were talking about, Idk what type the person is, maybe ENTP or ISTJ. It is tedious. -INTJ
I’m telling you ,, y’all have to go and do an escape room with an intj and an InFJ,,, soooo much fun because of all the connecting and problem solving,, You might do more than one in one day lol. They are so fun and heaven for both of these two together. From experience go try it !
I think I may have arrived at the conclusion that I am an Ni dom. But it's been hard to tell since it seems like I have well developed Se. Living in the moment is not daunting for example, although it is not what I usually do.
As an Ni who is Consume second and Play last I have I'd say that dealing with missing information isn't so much of a tidal wave until the people are involved. I blank out in social situations because they can't be handled intuitively for the most part. It's all sensory variables and I don't have much in my bag of tricks for these types of situations😂
Are you saying that , even when the Ni knows the answer completely , it forgots it knows the answer and assume it misses one piece and after knowing only that , the answer is complete, ! & it will constantly on a eternal voyage for that particular piece , even though it holds the answer in its own hands ?
Me as an INFJ, I loved connecting the dots and being much more in-depth on the subjects that I am curious about. It's like you can't help it not to find the final piece of the puzzle (answers to your questions). There's this undenying thirst of curiosity and urge that says "you know what...I am going to take the steps to find the answers that I am looking for it doesnt matter if it will take weeks, months or years. Once you find the answers that you're looking for, there's this satisfaction of AHA moment. Hehe
Thank you for explaining this so clearly. Today I really needed to hear this. For a long time I was trying to solve everything (in my head) and I actually did solve a lot at work, but I so overlooked what (or who) was right in front of me.
Sorry for the late comment but can I also wanna ask you something For some reason my Ni got Weaker and got Decreased for some reason I'm an intj but the thing is My Ni isn't working anymore :( (I've been an intj for about servral months now) I can't even think of the future anymore (ideas) Or maybe function just changed If I'm probably wrong then that's your opinion I'll respect it
I take information very seriously. I have limited grey matter and I can get mildly annoyed when someone attempts to feed me information I do not personally value. My mind will latch onto it and I will attempt to understand. I dislike my memory being hijacked like that and sometimes I'll just refuse to talk about something.
Interesting. Where do you think the nuances are? Or is it all just a big lie to entertain ourselves with and our experience of the ‘functions’ are more or less the same?
I agree and I think Ne is the other way around. Whereas Ni users always try to fill in the missing pieces of information in their web of information, Ne users always try to keep on expanding/growing their web (despite small missing pieces of information in the center of their web). It seems like Ne users are always on the lookout to expand their knowledge and go to terra incognito/unknown lands, because focusing on the center of their web of knowledge is pretty boring and not exciting. Their minds are always living on the edges/fringes, whereas Ni users are always living at the center. (everything figuratively of course)
Haha 2% missing. Almost glad ive got Ni third. 80/20 rule. Granted, in the third slot sometimes im like that pepe Sylvia meme: map with crazy arrows, string attached to pins piecing together the puzzle and I’ve got a cigarette in my hand waving like a madman explaining that I’ve figured it out.
You INTJ are a blessing to humanity ❤️. I mean it. You're one of the few neurons of humanity (and need protecting in social settings; from insecure, evil personality types, as well as cluster-b). Thank you, for uploading this. It provided greater insight and clarity into that paranoid 'post (?) eureka' moment; that both of these types experience. And the golden solution is to "focus, and take a closer look at what's 'physically' in front of you." 😅 Thanks again. Please keep it up, Lijo. - some [genuine] INFJ (irl).
I’m sorry but this is very WTF and very cringey 😂😂. I wonder what you do when you meet an “INTJ” that rubs you the wrong way.. I mean, no one’s exempt from being rude or ever being the dick in a situation. What do you write them off as? I’m sure you don’t let them in your hermetic seal of precious little INTJ furries that need protecting. Would you consider it? Edit: I like the fact that you had to reiterate you are a real deal INFJ, twice. Who are you actually trying to reassure?
I've been trying to figure out some stuff in my life for a while now... Been saying over and over again that it feels like I'm missing just one little piece of information, and that once I find out what this piece of information is, things will be smooth sailing from that point onwards... And for a while now I know I need to try and find it outside of my own head and use more Te, but I find myself falling back into the "Ni pattern", if that makes sense. I'll have to keep this video in mind. Thank you, Lindsay, for making sense of me to me more than I could have...
You enjoying the meadow Sierra? It can be pretty frustrating but I think the grass is greener over here. What’s the weather like in the meadow? I just might come.
@@cczz2172 There is no meadow, only concrete and steel. The statement was metaphoric in nature, meaning that when focus is lost, sometimes it's Best to step away from the situation and gain Better perspective. Don't bother coming, the meadow is posted private property and trespassers will be dealt with accordingly.
Here's the catch... Sensors do the exact same thing - search for missing information in their Ni concepts. No, we don't actually explore randome stuff.
@@InternetLiJo Yes, but we search for the connection by searching for details. It's like... "If I can't connect this, it's because I don't have all the details." Sometimes we search for additional angles because details appear different depending on how you look at them, sometimes we go over the same set of info because maybe we've missed something there, and sometimes we see exactly which patch of info is missing and hunt it speciffically expecting some grand discovery... But yeah, the amount of info I can nonchallantly filter through until the picture feels kind of acceptable complete is probably an INxJ's nightmare.
once, I put together 999 pieces of a 1,000-piece jigsaw puzzle and spent over a day backtracking my movements around the house just to find that missing piece. I never found it, so imagine my overwhelming frustration that week #intjproblems
Peter Drucker is often misunderstood, but dude is on my Mount Rushmore of minds. And, one book he always wanted to finish writing he titled "Organizing Ignorance." I think my Ni posse can appreciate the title of that book. I respect your work.
Be in the sensory and solutions will just come to you. Then you'll be asked to justify your solution, and it's crazy how there's so much supporting evidence once you think about it. But, gotta be in the sensory enough to be right.
As an ENTJ programmer student my teacher thought I didn´t got it due to all my questions and was very surprised when I got full marks in the exam. The explanation is found in your video: When I don´t grasp the system I am very focused on finding the last peace missing in the pussle, and the moment I find it, everything puts in place. I am an ENTJ (Te Ni Se Fi). Thanks for sharing!
I know what you say your reason for this video is, while perhaps also true, I still think you saw my post on Facebook begging Se doms for answers on navigating the here and now so fluently and decided to make this when you saw I wasn't receiving useful insight... in fact, I don't think anyone quite understood which information I was after. You had to make it stupid simple and obvious. Go outside. Brilliant. Obviously, brilliant.
(I haven’t watched yet but the timing on my feed showing me your video is deliciously remarkable lol) On the walk home from work, doing my thinky thing, I came across the perspective of what I could do with having the mind of an INTJ, if I only “updated my world”. I’ve come to terms with what Ni-Fi loop feels like and all that missing data is a problem I’ll be working on.
I passively create a 3 dimensional holographic world in my head so that I can navigate with my eyes closed. The way I understand it, my Se passively collects sensory data and my Ni creates a substrate or synthetic version of the thing or collection of things. I switch between (and overlap) both of my external and inner perceptions. Sometimes my inner perceptions are more clear and detailed than what is right in front of me, then my eyes focus and the real world becomes more detailed. It could be described as filters. Ti is usually the function in the basement sorting between Se and Ni, either checking the accuracy of Ni, or filling in missing pieces. I agree to your advice at the end. It's best to get outside and have experiences that better feed your Ni. My life goes in cycles of hard work on projects in my "basement" to then going on an adventure. I've learned to accept this duality and ride the waves. - ISTP
Its like that you say take a look in your environment. The missing data in that youre looking for in front of your eyes, yet but something you still wouldn't aknowledge it, until it's reaaly gone, leaving your own reality. Ni attacked to Se, so what do you searching actually it must be in reality itself. Then my question, what will happen if your reality that attached to your Ni is gone? You want to search it but you can't do that.
it's actually so ironic. "i may have formed this whole piece of something, but i may have probably missed something back in the sensory". some time ago i started studying mbti and cognitive functions. at some point when i had studied it all through and had a whole understanding of all this staff and the connections, i came back into reality and was like "and how tf i'm supposed to use it in real life". Like i learnt it on more abstract and more of a theoretical kind of way and when people started asking for examples i was like 'god no, go away from me' (comment from frustrated infj)
I called that feeling the inner compass and it gives you this sense that 'anything is solvable' or 'I can do anything' provided you have enough time. Life's main question really does become what piece of information is missing for me to solve this puzzle? What's stopping me from getting to point A to Omega. Anyways, i'm probs going to be typed as a si dom.
Seeing all these comments, only proves that intjs are the most volatile mbti type and there are have been many successful and iconic intjs such as the founder of Instagram, the Wright brothers, nikola tesla and many more.
Well said Lijo, how to explain it? Something does not add up, it is my obligation to understand it. Doing sensory helps to have a more balanced life, it is fine to be in constant pursue, and no it is not right in front of me, because what I see is obvious, but what cause that? What is the root of it? That is what we need. Is not everyone like that? 😳
dealing with Ni looking for missing pattern is like ramanujan counting to infinity while talking to a ghost. drive you up a wall up until 4th wall is broken through or until somebody from the other side of the wall point out the coordinate where to find it and me, actually going out of my head space to find it in the real world. yeah, its annoying when rubber neckers are actually right!
0:35 "What if you were teleported (in)to a dark room, a typical room but not one you've ever been in before. Would you be able to find the doorway is?"-Yes. Speed of finding depends on my internal state prior to teleportation. If ot is just after my half-hour meditation starting at 3:30am(mostly on work days, shoupd be every day but lazy I be) then the subtle flow of ambient airflow + bacground noise will feed me context of room size, level of clutter and most probabale orientation of light switche(s) and windows. "External" orienteering is innate and automatic to us "P-types," we are always aware of the correspondence between our internal mechanisms and the external atmosphere... at least I am when sufficiently centred in the act of introspection(never drop your guardd, combat potential must be optimal, always).
I'm very new to all this language. INFJ really seems to resonate with me, in both the best and worst ways, but I'm also aware that only 0.5% of males (which I am) fit in this category. It therefore seems unlikely, but here I find myself. What's the best way to go about finding out if I'm being honest and accurate with my own self-assessment?
Not really relevant. Why don’t you be honest and accurate with your core values and if your daily life is striving to be in accordance with them? And the 0.5% thing, how do you quantify that? Lol. These mbti “statistics” and the like are misleading and manipulative, to say the least. It baffles me how someone could swallow it whole at face value.
Infj. Ok having your favorite nationwide department store and going to a location you havent been to yet know where your peoduct is and sure as hell there it is. How would one explain this? Youve done a decent job
This makes so much more sense now. I usually always take a nap at lunch to reset my mind which I think is my tap into Se momentarily. I am a massive Ni user so I will heed this advice to go into Se than come back.
@@InternetLiJo That's right, but what about missing Se or missing Consume? Can you find it, or was it always there? If you're searching for _presumed_ missing qualities, isn't this doing more ni? More ni-missing-se. It's a wild-goose chase.
Curious INFJ here, I wonder what's his data reference for that claim or Bronze pairs claim of longevity/success for that matter? I guess I'm a bit paranoid of ENTP carelessness or straight up talking outta their asses at times lol.
ah sorry about that! I do that so I don't look like I'm filming 5 videos in the same day when I actually am. Have to look slightly different some how lol
@@InternetLiJo that is literally hilarious 😭😭 why am I EXACTLY like this. Something like that would be planned out like that for the EXACT same reason 😭. Inferior Se effort lol.
Ni doms are very sensitive (literally. All introverted functions are sensitive) to impact, influence. So we will sense the influence on something, because it will behave in unknown manner, but we will not know, what caused it. From there comes the sense of missing information. Just like when you take clothes out from washing machine, and everything is red. You will understand, that something had to color it that way, but what is it. Where actually is that thing and what are its material properties. Ni dom will be able to describe what is he looks for in broad sense and where it must be. Other people will not have the same sense of missing information, because they are not aware of change in impact on something in the first place.
Good points LiJo! You nailed it when you said it's all in your heads. Ni users really engage with their intuitive perceptions as if they were actually real. It's kinda difficult for me to understand this, being an ESFJ and not using much intuition (and when I do, it's Ne lol), but I really want to, since my main driving process is better understanding people, which will lead to more harmonious relationships 🥰 thanks a lot for the input.
This explains perfectly why I (INTJ) am so hopeless with oral exams: I love to immerse myself into the subject, building this (almost) comprehensive web of knowledge ... however, nothing is perfect, and I might still have one or two uncertainties. Then come d-day: During the examination, instead of displaying my knowledge, I unconsciously will steer the conversation to my "open points", hoping (unconsciously) that the professor will answer those questions I could not find the answer to in the literature. Even if these turn out to be minor points, or my "discovery" of uncertainty considered a valuable insight, my nerves will be so wracked that the whole exam can turn into a total nightmare
Could certainly make sense!
Yeah exactly. I loved learning the grammar and vocabulary and remembered them perfectly in my language lessions. Audio exams were a bit more tricky but I could use my reasoning there, ticking off wrong alternatives one by one But when it came to that I had to react to some spoken sentences in an adequate way in Swedish, English, German, French (languages I learnt at school) I totally froze...
I swear every Ni user needs to incorporate meditation, breath work, and grounding practices into our lives lol. Literally changed my life
Same lol I avoided it for years, but once I finally implemented it, meditation truly changed my life. I meditate an hour in the morning as the first thing I do, with some deep cleansing breaths, following that with some journaling and it sets my day up for being more connected to myself, focused and present.
Avoiding it can be tempting, to say the least.
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If I could remember to treat wellness as a priority instead of an asset I'd be way better off. The Ni crash is getting so old. Key word: remember!
Only ni users?
Being an INTJ myself, I totally understand. I'll struggle with something until the data all links up, and then all of a sudden the pattern falls into place and understanding is gained all at once. I've experienced this most recently when trying to learn Japanese. I was struggling with sentence structure and meaning, but then the patterns clicked and it is now far easier to understand. Well, I can read it far easier at least.
I experienced a very similar thing while learning Korean. Asian languages in general are just so different from European languages that I rely a lot on intuition to make sense of what I'm reading. Exposing myself for a long time to Korean content generally does the trick, as I absorb a lot of patterns for Ni to make sense of in the background; and after some time, it all falls into place and everything lights up. I, of course, went through some grammar lessons, but there had been some grammar points that I never researched and just grasped intuitively. It's weird but also incredibly satisfying.
The same to me
Nice!!
that’s exactly me but with maths and literature. If i don’t get one tiny little detail sometimes my understanding feels so forced, but if everything makes sense, its like I’m unstoppable in answering questions. But istg if one thing isn’t clicking the whole system feels wrong…so it’s either I do really well on the assessment like 100% or not so much 😂
INFJ. Can confirm. My focus is on the voids (what's missing). I think this is Ne-Nemesis as well. It's not so much that I see the "picture" is complete...but that I can tell when it is incomplete, and that incompleteness is a source of annoyance. So I am motivated to expose the voids and see what's there.
As a product manager often making negotiations and bringing ideas to table I need to make sure my emails are well written so the other party cannot find any hole to be used against me and company I work for. It's a big responsibility so I, INTJ being INTJ often spend a lot of time reading my emails over and over so there is NO information missing. It's very exhausting, I can tell you, but def rings the bell. Se drains me unless I use it to indulge my Fi. I like to look at pretty things (and people too), so for example I take a stroll and observe birds or sky or trees... It makes me happy.
It is exhausting!! I feel you on this. It's labor - literally.
@@InternetLiJo it feels so good to not be alone in this. Thanks! ❤️
"observe birds, sky or trees" I do the exact same thing. I realize I pratically only take pictures of these things. Nature sensory is fascinating.
@@Elodie_N_INTJ_Analyzes heh I'm so fascinated I don't even take pictures 😂 but yeah nature is so beautiful. I love to see the seasons changing, it's so calming.
Interesting. Sounds like Si. Are you sure it’s not Si?
As an Ni dom (from the fj department, what a complicated way to say Infj weird me), not having enough opportunities everyday to have that going in the first place, finding yourself interupted every 5 minutes either because of the Fe or Se components is quite difficult.
And don't get me wrong Fe in nice proportions is just a fabulous thing as it provides me with this sense of being connected to the human species sometimes and not 100% like I'm from Venus or some shit.
And Se when under control and not overindulged is good, it's enjoying good fabrics, nice material, tasty food with care. But too much of those two things is easily the worst thing. It's having to feel people's feelings when they're too heavy to bare and feeling depressed by it. It's being stressed by constant noise pollution, I've got headphones thank god.
Going on walks has been a blessing for me to have that Ni process going as it pleases while also allowing Se to take in the world with environnement that it likes : Nature, the beach, longues promenades.
Sorry I took this as an opportunity to vent a little. I never feel the need to do that but I think I just did. Take care y'all.
I think I understand what you meant and it even made me better understand one thing - just like you are overwhelmed by emotions of others, we can also be overwhelmed by all the external things that need to be solved. I think we INTJs and INFJs are very close as personalities and honestly it somehow makes me feel better that somewhere out there are "my people", if that makes sense. So don't worry about venting out, because this INTJ is glad to read your comment 😊
@@Jooney91 Wholesome. I love you both. All the more reason to remake society into a place that is habitable for socially-delicate personality types (vulnerable to evil personality types and Cluster-B, that like to gang up on them, ESFP and ESFJ in particular); who tend to function as some of its most vital, precious components.
Agreed! 😀
Also... Please research 'narcissitic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissits'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)!
European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!!
The are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-rape, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim or damsel in distress, creating 'flying-monkeys', and paying others to attack (or at times kill) someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Elliott Till.
ISFP (and ESFP) are the most complicit, narcissitic-enablers. ISFP also tend to be 'oblivious-codependants' (look up the definition).
SUMMARY:
Evil personality: ESFJ, ESTJ
[Secretly] Evil and narcissit-friendly gunts/flying-monkey: ISFP, ESFP.
☝️All of them are secretly emotionally-disturbed, hence their need to create conflict (and at other people's expense, truly evil).
Spread the word! Thank you.
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@@Jooney91 Omg this made me blush a little, and I never to that lol ! Plus I'm black how did you do it XD, well thank you so much for this comment anyway. It's nice to read something so nice in such a lonely time period of my life.
And you know what you've said about Intjs Te and the burden of having to feel like you gotta problem solve everything that's hapenning on the outside world... it gives me perspective quite frankly, never thought of it this way thanks !
@@Human_01 Thank you for the comment. But let's just remember that evil personality types don't exist, there's just unhealthy people ok ? I get what you mean though but since ppl such as Ni dom users are less frequent of a population it's obviously our responsability to try to leverage ourselves and get what we want out of life, not society to adapt to us quite frankly, it doesn't work the other way around. But thank you so much, I totally get your intention that's what's important, and I kinda love you for it 💗🤌🏾
Oooh... I'm curious about this one. Tinfoil hat at the ready ;))
me too !!
Yeee!!
Similar comment in mind brought home here lol
Lijo, it'd be cool if you could do an interview with INFJinxed as two Ni dom females..like you did with Frank James but with a female. anyways good stuff!
I'm an INTJ going through a divorce right now... My brain has been running at 200% trying to obsessively figure out the "why". I know there isn't a simple answer to it, but it's like a tic that takes over and I throw myself into trying to find an answer at the expense of everything else. It's disruptive and painful and I don't want to keep doing it because nothing of value comes out of it. Exercise, yoga, going outside, anything that distracts my brain from thinking has indeed been helpful.
Recently, happen to me 2 times. The worst is : the main information Se was so obvious, that I missed/ignored it. I was so focus on the goal Ni and certain of me.
I bet it's the exact same thing with ISTJ & ISFJ in the Si-Ne axis.
The recruiters in the companies and temporary agencies, are so stuck in their procedures Si, that they reject/don't want the others people/skill who could be better, the others possibilities Ne. They do the same misstakes for months, years, and don't see they is something wrong, "It's ok, it's normal, it's the turn over, it's like this".
I know why there is "turn-over" in certains companies in France. It's all about MBTI.
The frustration to know (Ni) what happen what cause it, and feeling like to be the only one who see it and want resolve it, and not really being able to explain them without being weird for them.
Feeling like I live in an other dimension.
ENTJ here. As an Ni-using cousin, I can partly relate to what was said in this video. I am able to easily navigate areas with minimal information, whether that be an unfamiliar dark room or a region where I have never been before. Child Se helps me take basic external infomation and place it in the Ni-spawned puzzle, but it only works half the time. I guess I can describe my Se as a flickering lamp. Provides sufficient light to gather enough infomation, but shouldn't be relied on too much. Ni's part time secretary, if you will.
INFJ here. I'm curious. When you're stepping into something completely new to learn, do you go right to the end of the book, so to speak, to first get a strong/deep understanding of the point of it, its logic and patterns, and then work backward identifying and assembling all the smaller pieces? Because you can see how they all fit together, often times resulting in a different structure, another, often improved way of accomplishing the point? I can't do the "oh, don't worry about understanding what you are being asked to do right now. Just commit it to memory and you'll understand later." I can't do that, in part because I have a rote memory deficiency, but even more so because I NEED to see the big picture in detail, first.
For me, learning to do social work is a good example. It wasn't enough to say at the start, that you're here to do good for people and this is what you do, little by little, building toward something bigger and grander. I needed to understand, foremost, what this "doing good" thing looks like. What are the patterns and logic that give this behemoth of an edifice structure and substance? And does it make sense? As an aside, I quickly learned it doesn't. Sentiments weave together to form a narrative that is independent of critical thinking, logic, and reason. It all starts with the feel, who controls that feel, and then builds from there. And it is usually corrupted because of this.
But mostly, they want to teach (indoctrinate) you to do A, B, C, D, etc... You're not supposed to jump to the end first, and build backward to create something that is actually consistent with the ideal or stated intent. Sorry, that's a tangent, but you get the idea, I hope.
One other general thing I've sussed out from this and other vids of yours. Just about all of my friends are extroverted sensors. I've come to realize it is at least in part because they do much of the sensing work that I otherwise dread doing. For the things that grab my interest, they are a conduit for the sensing, and a partial remedy for that "missing part" you speak of(I think). They also talk a lot allowing me to quietly imbibe and process, which I like.
Hahah YES right to the end of the book, or right to the thing I need to know. I can fill in the gaps, I don't need to read everything :)
Yes,this INFJ agress to this
Absolutely spot on except for the two things in my 2nd paragraph. Also, literally all of my closest friends are extroverted sensors too, ISFPs, ISTPs, and ESTPs (except for one ISTJ whom I’m friends with because we have similar values not because of naturally clicking like the rest). In our friendship groups there are several ESFPs who I’ve also grown up with, but oddly enough I’m not as close with them as the others. One of my closest friends is ISFP MF. Fi masculine is pleasing to me in any relationship. Se masculine is something we both share.
The only caveat is the “it all starts the feel” and the “they talk a lot and I’m quiet”. I’m also the talkative one, in the sense that the idiot that is me is unfortunately the one who is responsible for explaining things lol. I wonder if this is also simply just Fe/Te?
@@cczz2172 When I said "It all starts with the feel", I was referring to the world that is social work, not me personally. For me, the feel has to be filtered through reason, logic, and critical thinking in general, before it ever sees the light of day. I think the difference in your second point could likely be down to personality type. If I understand you INTJs, you are strongly inclined to confront whatever inconsistency is placed in front of you? It's difficult for you to lay off it. Whereas we INFJs are more inclined to just roll with the inanity at hand. Or maybe casually point out an inconsistency here or there purely out of curiosity for what that may further reveal of said friend's personal logic or reasoning. But cool, thanks for sharing about your inclination toward S friends, as well.
I absolutely do that. I usually go through the contents page, then the summary of chapters or just look at all the different pictures in the book. Before Diving into it. I have this urge to know what the big picture is before i get into details. The skeleton must be ready for me to put on the rest of the stuff.
Thank you… good analogy but You make it seem like Intj’s want all data to get thing’s done. We are not Intp’s wanting information just for fun…As an Intj I care more that it works (even whit only 98% of the data) way more than the 2% of info missing… I’ll go for the 2% only if they are absolutely necessary for the light to go on.. Intj’s do often cut corners way more than poeple think.
P.S. you use a lot your 🙌 in the video… maybe to much this time 😀. Txs
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100% haha! Yes 98% of the info is intuitive data, but then we have that 2% sensory we need to slip in the mix. Absolutely aren't looking to gather all of the things... how exhausting haha
As an ENFP and a Ne Dom I find value in the idea of breaking the lost mind wandering by going outside or connecting with the sensory. My mind lock is a never ending branching where I get so far out on a limb it's no longer contextual correct for the original situation.
Want a stress headache? Grind on that last few percent for a few hours. I realized that if you have 90 or 95% done you are far more likely to have at least a ‘good’ answer than anyone around you. That last few % is likely made up of undefined and ill-defined things, emotions, etc. that only lock in the moment the solution is applied. Grounding the solution in reality with sprinkles of realtime external input is an absolute necessity or else like the scene from a Beautiful Mind in which the main character builds a wonderful connection of strings between pictures, places and things with string knowing he’s ‘solved it’ but actually it’s just a cow turd.
“Then go outside!”
No.
“Take a break!”
I would if I could but it haunts me until it’s solved and I literally CAN’T stop thinking about it.
I literally cannot start writing because I keep researching vaguely related topics in hopes of finding what’s missing, but then I get more information that links ANOTHER missing piece before I verify the first one and go on wild goose chase after wild goose chase for difficult to find information without even knowing what I’m looking for.
It may serve other ni-users - or anyone - to have a quick look at themselves and see they are in one piece. We're whole already, and so is the world. Ain't nothing missing.
Thanks dude. 👊
Just know, we are hardwired this way. This process inside our head is moving at light speed most of the times. For me (in conjunction with my "Fe"), it's when dealing with other people and the arts (art is a reflection of what the artist was "feeling" when crafting..., I am reading between the lines or decoding the symbolism)
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I don’t think you are describing simply Ni. You sound like you are describing Ni Ti loop that can’t solve the puzzle because it is missing information and needs to take a minute to get out of its head and go do something. Go Se around.
How would you describe Ni and differentiate it from what LiJo said?
@@cczz2172 The biggest aspect of Ni is statistical learning in perception with the use of convergent thinking. Ni and Si both store long-term memory in the hippocampus. Si encodes and recalls episodic and semantic memories which encodes and recalls specific details of individual experiences. Where as, Ni's statistical learning refers to extracting what is common across multiple experiences. "Memory is typically thought of as enabling reminiscence and past experiences. However, memory also informs and guides processing of future experiences...The more the hippocampus predicted the category of an upcoming item, the worse the current item was encoded...Episodic memory allows for vivid recollection and nostalgia about past events, whereas statistical learning leads to more generalized knowledge that affords predictions about new situations." (Statistical Prediction of the Future Impairs Episodic Encoding of the Present) This is why Ni and Si are in direct opposition depending on the stack. The higher the Ni the lower the Si and vice versa.
"Statistical learning refers to an unconscious (passive) cognitive process in which repeated patterns, or regularities, are extracted from sensory environment." (Statistical Learning and Its Consequences)
Ti is a priori. Meaning you do not need experience to gain the knowledge. Once the concept is known it can be understood. Such as 2+2=4 or all triangles have three sides. These are conceptual truths that are based on language and mathematics. Ti utilizes reflective thinking. It reflects upon the information they have and what they still need to obtain and help them find ways to reduce the gap, as well as it takes in the bigger picture and understands the consequences through conditional thinking (cause and effect, if then statements). Ti is also using deductive reasoning to determine if something is valid. All of these things will help with the analysis, categorizing, clarifying, naming, and understanding through an objective logical framework.
The Ni-Ti loop is statistical learning and an objective logical framework to reach a single conclusion or our aha moment. The problem is when we get stuck in analysis paralysis and we can't close the loop because we are missing information, have wrong information, or have conflicting information. This is when we need to get outside of our head and go Se around, as Ni is 100% dependent upon our Se function. And Ti only knows what it has learned, but once a conceptual truth is known, it can be understood without any experience or sense data. So Ti needs to expand on it's language and mathematics and other types of conceptual truths to gain more knowledge.
are you a Libra/Aquarius/Gemini Sun ? I know, I know , I don't follow horoscopes either but astrological profiling is a very compelling subject for me. Im an INTJ myself and i'm curious to understand the differences in patterns among INTJs themselves. i'd very much appreciate any feedback. Thank you. you're channel is excellent btw.
The “context” is what I live for! The missing information game is the bane of my existence. My sister has to grab me, shake me, and say, “The literally reality is…” to snap me out of it.
Ni - going down the rabbit whole
hahahah 🎉
Oooh man I love that, "it's running in the background" that's why I'm always coming up with things I'm not 'supposed' to know and the mysteries in life don't get experienced as such. It's like the clues are already collected and highlighted and I will only need a very short time to process them to complete my theory, while others need a lot more to back track what's going on.
INFJs always building webs in background but we will not go to the length after 98% completion if we see that it's not worth it for the whole.
Have an INFJ gf and oh lord her brain works sooooooooooo different from mine (INTP). My Si keeps me grounded pretty well on informational topics.
It sounds like you INTJs are constantly running a Bayesian algorithm to infer missing information. Which is totally cool. But as you (LiJo) realize, the more data you have to work with, the better the algorithm performs.
well I have studied Bayesian inference but could be a bit more specific on what you mean by Bayesian algorithm
@@tj-co9go I wrote a reply yesterday, but UA-cam didn't like the link I included to a Wikipedia article on "naive Bayes classifier", so you'll have to search for that. Essentially, you're teaching the computer to play 20 Questions, calculating the most likely probabilities for the missing information based on what is known.
My biggest problem is explaining to someone how I found out the missing information. Sometimes I know things but explaining them requires a deep work compared to some people I guess.
I really appreciated the video!'
I got hit with a tidal wave of crap associated with missing information.
It's not just one or a few pieces of information, it's so much information, it's a seemingly endless amount, everytime I study to find all the missing information there's even more but I can't move on with my life untill I have all the information I need.
INFJ here relating so fkn' hard to this...
Myers Briggs classified me as INFP-T but this cognitive function literally defines who I am so I think I might be mistyped.
0:30 "...you have to navigate your room in complete darkness." I'm hooked!
INFJ here. I also search for missing information maniacally.
I also know where things are. We were driving in an unknown city. Someone said they would like a big gulp. And I knew the exact exit to get off to find a 7-Eleven. Everyone wanted to know how I knew and I just said I knew, something about the way the highway and how the neighboring area looked. Typical type of area for a 7-Eleven.
I've also always said that you could drop me in the middle of an unknown part of a city, and I could find my way home without asking. directions
I was caught in an Ni loop Sunday. Was trying to get how to setup tile sets in a tool I use.
It wasn't making any sense as the bitmasks were all correctly set with all conditions covered with which tile should appear...
Spent 13h researching the code to get why some combinations create gaps, and why there wasn't any possible combination for usage with multiple sets...
Until I figured that we can separate tiles in "layers" in which different sets can have the same bitmask and we sort them out by priority that we can set separated by tiles individually.
13h, non stop. No sleep. No food.
It's...insane how much you can put your Se to the side when you get caught in an Ni loop.
I'm an entj, so I usually like to take care of myself, my house, and stuff.
But this happened in a Sunday when I usually clean my house. And when it ended at Monday...when I saw the entropy taking over my house I was like "how the f*??"
Directly in My MBTI Playlist.
Thanks Lijo.
Excellent!
Hi LiJo i am subscribe to you but the only video i watch is "typing yourself backwards" but i promise i gonna watch your videos.
The endless search for that illusive missing piece, the kernel of truth in the shimmering sands. The fear that the work could be all for naught whilst the little things that truly matter on a personal level slip us by... Risk vs reward. I must honestly say I felt a sense of relief of the burden with the prospect of taking a break in the beauty outside. I literally sighed peacefully at your suggestion of taking a break 😅 I did take break today, for at least half an hour. "Well that was fun. Now back to it... **groan**" 🙃 Thank you 😊
Edit: The search itself can be rewarding as well as frustrating. If obsession resembles possession, then perhaps a breather is then called for.
The life of the INTJ is turning over a rock to find 2 more rocks. Then we flip the 2 rocks to find 4 rocks, etc, etc. When enough time passes, we are lost in a sea of rocks. Too many rocks to flip over, but not enough time in the day. Then we become sad. Then, angry at everyone who takes our attention away from rock flipping. It really is a problem.
4:50 this, I've never noticed how often I use pronouns when speaking to people until I met this one person that just constantly gets lost at what I'm saying and I have to remind them, or I might say something out of nowhere in reference to the last thing mentioned by either of us and if it has been a decent length of time they would've forgotten and also make them confused as to what we were talking about, Idk what type the person is, maybe ENTP or ISTJ. It is tedious.
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I’m telling you ,, y’all have to go and do an escape room with an intj and an InFJ,,, soooo much fun because of all the connecting and problem solving,, You might do more than one in one day lol. They are so fun and heaven for both of these two together. From experience go try it !
I think I may have arrived at the conclusion that I am an Ni dom. But it's been hard to tell since it seems like I have well developed Se. Living in the moment is not daunting for example, although it is not what I usually do.
made a garden so i have to go outside to look after it 🍄
i love this
Oooh excellent description and representation of the nuance ❤️🔥 thanks 💙 always love when you post 📫
Thank you :)
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As an Ni who is Consume second and Play last I have I'd say that dealing with missing information isn't so much of a tidal wave until the people are involved. I blank out in social situations because they can't be handled intuitively for the most part. It's all sensory variables and I don't have much in my bag of tricks for these types of situations😂
Oh interesting a SCBP in our midst! !!
Ni is my blindspot, so I thought this would be interesting without me really understanding it, and I was right.
Going to the sensory is such a good advice. I almost always connect the final dot by cooking 🤣
Are you saying that , even when the Ni knows the answer completely , it forgots it knows the answer and assume it misses one piece and after knowing only that , the answer is complete, ! & it will constantly on a eternal voyage for that particular piece , even though it holds the answer in its own hands ?
Me as an INFJ, I loved connecting the dots and being much more in-depth on the subjects that I am curious about. It's like you can't help it not to find the final piece of the puzzle (answers to your questions). There's this undenying thirst of curiosity and urge that says "you know what...I am going to take the steps to find the answers that I am looking for it doesnt matter if it will take weeks, months or years. Once you find the answers that you're looking for, there's this satisfaction of AHA moment. Hehe
i totally relate
Thank you for explaining this so clearly.
Today I really needed to hear this. For a long time I was trying to solve everything (in my head) and I actually did solve a lot at work, but I so overlooked what (or who) was right in front of me.
Sorry for the late comment but can I also wanna ask you something
For some reason my Ni got Weaker and got Decreased for some reason I'm an intj but the thing is My Ni isn't working anymore :( (I've been an intj for about servral months now) I can't even think of the future anymore (ideas)
Or maybe function just changed
If I'm probably wrong then that's your opinion I'll respect it
However I'm not a si function that just do rules.
I take information very seriously. I have limited grey matter and I can get mildly annoyed when someone attempts to feed me information I do not personally value.
My mind will latch onto it and I will attempt to understand. I dislike my memory being hijacked like that and sometimes I'll just refuse to talk about something.
(And to someone) my god. me too man. I'm going through this now and this reply relieved so much tension
Touch grass INxJs
I've been typed as a Te-Si, but this is the most Ni has ever sounded relatable to me 😀
Interesting. Where do you think the nuances are? Or is it all just a big lie to entertain ourselves with and our experience of the ‘functions’ are more or less the same?
Excellent presentation on a talent I’ve always had as an INTJ that is superior to most of my other more modest talents. Thanks Lindsey!
Thank you Frank 🙏🏼
I agree and I think Ne is the other way around. Whereas Ni users always try to fill in the missing pieces of information in their web of information, Ne users always try to keep on expanding/growing their web (despite small missing pieces of information in the center of their web). It seems like Ne users are always on the lookout to expand their knowledge and go to terra incognito/unknown lands, because focusing on the center of their web of knowledge is pretty boring and not exciting. Their minds are always living on the edges/fringes, whereas Ni users are always living at the center. (everything figuratively of course)
Haha 2% missing. Almost glad ive got Ni third. 80/20 rule. Granted, in the third slot sometimes im like that pepe Sylvia meme: map with crazy arrows, string attached to pins piecing together the puzzle and I’ve got a cigarette in my hand waving like a madman explaining that I’ve figured it out.
Hahaha great visual David!!
@@InternetLiJo thank you :). Rough out here in these Ni streets Lijo
You INTJ are a blessing to humanity ❤️. I mean it. You're one of the few neurons of humanity (and need protecting in social settings; from insecure, evil personality types, as well as cluster-b).
Thank you, for uploading this. It provided greater insight and clarity into that paranoid 'post (?) eureka' moment; that both of these types experience. And the golden solution is to "focus, and take a closer look at what's 'physically' in front of you." 😅
Thanks again. Please keep it up, Lijo.
- some [genuine] INFJ (irl).
Thank you!!
@@InternetLiJo You're welcome. 🙂
There are NO evil personalities as a Type.
I’m sorry but this is very WTF and very cringey 😂😂. I wonder what you do when you meet an “INTJ” that rubs you the wrong way.. I mean, no one’s exempt from being rude or ever being the dick in a situation. What do you write them off as? I’m sure you don’t let them in your hermetic seal of precious little INTJ furries that need protecting. Would you consider it?
Edit: I like the fact that you had to reiterate you are a real deal INFJ, twice. Who are you actually trying to reassure?
I've been trying to figure out some stuff in my life for a while now... Been saying over and over again that it feels like I'm missing just one little piece of information, and that once I find out what this piece of information is, things will be smooth sailing from that point onwards...
And for a while now I know I need to try and find it outside of my own head and use more Te, but I find myself falling back into the "Ni pattern", if that makes sense.
I'll have to keep this video in mind.
Thank you, Lindsay, for making sense of me to me more than I could have...
So happy to be of service!!
Please write a book. Thanks.
You got it ;)
When you can't see the forest for the trees, sometimes it's best to go to the meadow for a bit...👍🏻✌🏼
You enjoying the meadow Sierra? It can be pretty frustrating but I think the grass is greener over here. What’s the weather like in the meadow? I just might come.
@@cczz2172 There is no meadow, only concrete and steel. The statement was metaphoric in nature, meaning that when focus is lost, sometimes it's Best to step away from the situation and gain Better perspective. Don't bother coming, the meadow is posted private property and trespassers will be dealt with accordingly.
Yo, girlfren. -Infj here
Here's the catch... Sensors do the exact same thing - search for missing information in their Ni concepts. No, we don't actually explore randome stuff.
I would say sensors are searching for the missing connection, they usually have all the stuff already!
But missing “info” all the same!
@@InternetLiJo Yes, but we search for the connection by searching for details. It's like... "If I can't connect this, it's because I don't have all the details." Sometimes we search for additional angles because details appear different depending on how you look at them, sometimes we go over the same set of info because maybe we've missed something there, and sometimes we see exactly which patch of info is missing and hunt it speciffically expecting some grand discovery...
But yeah, the amount of info I can nonchallantly filter through until the picture feels kind of acceptable complete is probably an INxJ's nightmare.
once, I put together 999 pieces of a 1,000-piece jigsaw puzzle and spent over a day backtracking my movements around the house just to find that missing piece. I never found it, so imagine my overwhelming frustration that week #intjproblems
Peter Drucker is often misunderstood, but dude is on my Mount Rushmore of minds. And, one book he always wanted to finish writing he titled "Organizing Ignorance." I think my Ni posse can appreciate the title of that book. I respect your work.
Be in the sensory and solutions will just come to you. Then you'll be asked to justify your solution, and it's crazy how there's so much supporting evidence once you think about it. But, gotta be in the sensory enough to be right.
As an ENTJ programmer student my teacher thought I didn´t got it due to all my questions and was very surprised when I got full marks in the exam. The explanation is found in your video: When I don´t grasp the system I am very focused on finding the last peace missing in the pussle, and the moment I find it, everything puts in place. I am an ENTJ (Te Ni Se Fi). Thanks for sharing!
Yes! Fellow Infj
I know what you say your reason for this video is, while perhaps also true, I still think you saw my post on Facebook begging Se doms for answers on navigating the here and now so fluently and decided to make this when you saw I wasn't receiving useful insight... in fact, I don't think anyone quite understood which information I was after. You had to make it stupid simple and obvious. Go outside. Brilliant. Obviously, brilliant.
(I haven’t watched yet but the timing on my feed showing me your video is deliciously remarkable lol)
On the walk home from work, doing my thinky thing, I came across the perspective of what I could do with having the mind of an INTJ, if I only “updated my world”. I’ve come to terms with what Ni-Fi loop feels like and all that missing data is a problem I’ll be working on.
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I passively create a 3 dimensional holographic world in my head so that I can navigate with my eyes closed. The way I understand it, my Se passively collects sensory data and my Ni creates a substrate or synthetic version of the thing or collection of things. I switch between (and overlap) both of my external and inner perceptions. Sometimes my inner perceptions are more clear and detailed than what is right in front of me, then my eyes focus and the real world becomes more detailed. It could be described as filters. Ti is usually the function in the basement sorting between Se and Ni, either checking the accuracy of Ni, or filling in missing pieces. I agree to your advice at the end. It's best to get outside and have experiences that better feed your Ni. My life goes in cycles of hard work on projects in my "basement" to then going on an adventure. I've learned to accept this duality and ride the waves. - ISTP
Its like that you say take a look in your environment. The missing data in that youre looking for in front of your eyes, yet but something you still wouldn't aknowledge it, until it's reaaly gone, leaving your own reality. Ni attacked to Se, so what do you searching actually it must be in reality itself. Then my question, what will happen if your reality that attached to your Ni is gone? You want to search it but you can't do that.
it's actually so ironic. "i may have formed this whole piece of something, but i may have probably missed something back in the sensory". some time ago i started studying mbti and cognitive functions. at some point when i had studied it all through and had a whole understanding of all this staff and the connections, i came back into reality and was like "and how tf i'm supposed to use it in real life". Like i learnt it on more abstract and more of a theoretical kind of way and when people started asking for examples i was like 'god no, go away from me'
(comment from frustrated infj)
Pov me after this video: Am I missing something?🤔
your personality type?🤣
I called that feeling the inner compass and it gives you this sense that 'anything is solvable' or 'I can do anything' provided you have enough time. Life's main question really does become what piece of information is missing for me to solve this puzzle? What's stopping me from getting to point A to Omega. Anyways, i'm probs going to be typed as a si dom.
Seeing all these comments, only proves that intjs are the most volatile mbti type and there are have been many successful and iconic intjs such as the founder of Instagram, the Wright brothers, nikola tesla and many more.
Well said Lijo, how to explain it? Something does not add up, it is my obligation to understand it. Doing sensory helps to have a more balanced life, it is fine to be in constant pursue, and no it is not right in front of me, because what I see is obvious, but what cause that? What is the root of it? That is what we need. Is not everyone like that? 😳
dealing with Ni looking for missing pattern is like ramanujan counting to infinity while talking to a ghost. drive you up a wall up until 4th wall is broken through or until somebody from the other side of the wall point out the coordinate where to find it and me, actually going out of my head space to find it in the real world. yeah, its annoying when rubber neckers are actually right!
Nice vid
Iam intij
5:18 god you are talking to an entp here. You are playing with the dark side of my mind (Ne dom)
Just see how that plays out. Brilliant
Eyyy 🙌
I don't need reality I need answers! Roflmao
bahahaha
Solve et Coagula
0:35 "What if you were teleported (in)to a dark room, a typical room but not one you've ever been in before. Would you be able to find the doorway is?"-Yes.
Speed of finding depends on my internal state prior to teleportation. If ot is just after my half-hour meditation starting at 3:30am(mostly on work days, shoupd be every day but lazy I be) then the subtle flow of ambient airflow + bacground noise will feed me context of room size, level of clutter and most probabale orientation of light switche(s) and windows.
"External" orienteering is innate and automatic to us "P-types," we are always aware of the correspondence between our internal mechanisms and the external atmosphere... at least I am when sufficiently centred in the act of introspection(never drop your guardd, combat potential must be optimal, always).
This looks like something L (from death note) or Sherlock would write lol , both carachters are probably INTP.
The worst is when the same missing information has been eluding you for years, and you can't get it out of your head.
Ooooo inj content….
I'm very new to all this language. INFJ really seems to resonate with me, in both the best and worst ways, but I'm also aware that only 0.5% of males (which I am) fit in this category. It therefore seems unlikely, but here I find myself. What's the best way to go about finding out if I'm being honest and accurate with my own self-assessment?
Not really relevant. Why don’t you be honest and accurate with your core values and if your daily life is striving to be in accordance with them? And the 0.5% thing, how do you quantify that? Lol. These mbti “statistics” and the like are misleading and manipulative, to say the least. It baffles me how someone could swallow it whole at face value.
Infj. Ok having your favorite nationwide department store and going to a location you havent been to yet know where your peoduct is and sure as hell there it is. How would one explain this? Youve done a decent job
Oh one more caveat... the store doesnt have a standardized floor plan.
This makes so much more sense now. I usually always take a nap at lunch to reset my mind which I think is my tap into Se momentarily. I am a massive Ni user so I will heed this advice to go into Se than come back.
Hmm. Something tells me you’re an ISFJ or a similar type. Read the description. What do you think?
Seek not! or thou shalt find it missing.
hahahah 🤣🤣🤣. Rather find the missing screw before the wheel comes off!
@@InternetLiJo That's right, but what about missing Se or missing Consume? Can you find it, or was it always there?
If you're searching for _presumed_ missing qualities, isn't this doing more ni? More ni-missing-se.
It's a wild-goose chase.
The Eureka effect
Haven't watched yet but as a Consume first.... definitely won't relate
Hahah interested to know what you think
@@InternetLiJo Oh no, I'm not officially typed, wait till we find out I typed myself upside down hahaha
CS Joseph observes that an INTJs most common and long lasting Romantic partner is an ESFJ.
no. just please no. i won't marry an ESFJ
Curious INFJ here, I wonder what's his data reference for that claim or Bronze pairs claim of longevity/success for that matter? I guess I'm a bit paranoid of ENTP carelessness or straight up talking outta their asses at times lol.
@@tj-co9go lmao XD (I sympathize lol).
Something that distracts me in your videos is jewelry you wear, they catch my eyes.
ah sorry about that! I do that so I don't look like I'm filming 5 videos in the same day when I actually am. Have to look slightly different some how lol
@@InternetLiJo that is literally hilarious 😭😭 why am I EXACTLY like this. Something like that would be planned out like that for the EXACT same reason 😭. Inferior Se effort lol.
Yeah, ur right
And you know who I am :)
Great tip- go outside 💕
Need to follow my own advice right about now haha
Ni doms are very sensitive (literally. All introverted functions are sensitive) to impact, influence. So we will sense the influence on something, because it will behave in unknown manner, but we will not know, what caused it. From there comes the sense of missing information. Just like when you take clothes out from washing machine, and everything is red. You will understand, that something had to color it that way, but what is it. Where actually is that thing and what are its material properties. Ni dom will be able to describe what is he looks for in broad sense and where it must be. Other people will not have the same sense of missing information, because they are not aware of change in impact on something in the first place.
Good points LiJo! You nailed it when you said it's all in your heads. Ni users really engage with their intuitive perceptions as if they were actually real. It's kinda difficult for me to understand this, being an ESFJ and not using much intuition (and when I do, it's Ne lol), but I really want to, since my main driving process is better understanding people, which will lead to more harmonious relationships 🥰 thanks a lot for the input.