Okay but honestly its more like an alternate universe where unraveled has strong lawful good energy instead of the chaotic good that it has in this universe
You didn't mention it in your video, but the presumption of innocence hasn't always been the legal standard. In many countries throughout time, the accused was assumed guilty unless they could prove their innocence through evidence and testimony. Through that light, the statute of limitations makes even more sense: if your witnesses and evidence have gone away, how can you prove your innocence?
That could also explain why the Anglo-world doesn't have statutes of limitation on intentional homicide. Presumption of Innocence is a core component of Anglo-American law and thus the burden of proof falls on the accuser (the state) rather than the accused.
In Norway there is an intersting conversation going on regarding statutes of limitations on crimes against children, especially abuse. Because they usually don't report the crimes until they are grown ups, so the crimes are "too old", even though the abuse is still affecting their lives (and they might still know their abuser).
Yes, this is a common problem with disasterous consequences. Until people understand PTSD more it is unlikely they will understand why it takes so long for us to face our fears.
They should definitely do that. At a young age I had been consistently abused and I can’t report anything because my own family didn’t believe me and made sure to gaslight me, belittle me and conceal all the evidence to protect a p3d0. I can’t sue now. It’s been too long and all the evidence has been destroyed.
@@mlem1042 problem is would it be good at larger scale. I personally know people who would use that law with impunity to get rid of people they personally dislike. And it was said in this very video, after 10 years there is no evidence for nor against. It turns into who sells better sob story. It would be catastrophic on large scale simply because liars exist.
@@jakubrogacz6829 the thing is this type of behaviour is repetitive. I don't feel bad for myself, whom I do feel bad for is all the little girls he could be harming right now. An average rapist rapes 6 victims. There are very likely newer cases than mine that could be used to provide background for my case and most importantly to get their cases going. I don't care about justice or revenge. What I do care about is removing him from the proximity of children as well as adults and generally any breathing thing. There are liars but of the 10% of cases that do get reported, only 0.5% of all allegations are thought to be false. (Btw only 10% of all cases get reported, how sad is that? A big reason why are cases like mine) I don't get depressed about me going through that. What I do get depressed about is how people like this get treated afterwards - gaslighting, disbelief and victim blaming. I don't want anyone else to have to go through that. There should be no such thing as limitations on crimes committed against children. Not to mention, there are cases in which there is video footage. It's sad but cases like this exist and at least these would be important to look into since there is evidence and very compelling evidence to say the least. Rape is a difficult crime to prove as is. Barely any rapist gets convicted, the last thing you have to worry about is false allegations since the victims are fighting against time and it is hard to prove a recent rape let alone a rape that happened like a decade ago. So basically what I am saying is it is nearly impossible to get anyone into prison for this unless it actually happened and the offender was being sloppy since there always has to be proof or at the very least a big amount of testimonies so no one person can put anyone in jail for a false allegation like this. This system protects rapists as is. Any victim deserves a chance to remove the danger no matter how long ago it happened. In fact, this is in your best interest since the same people they could be putting in jail could have raped you or your kids one day had something like this not been allowed. Keep in mind, the false allegations are the last thing you have to worry about. If somebody wants to accuse you of a crime you didn't do, they probably will not ever take it to the police. They will just shit talk you. You can be accused even if this is not an option. This only has benefits.
This is exactly what we were taught in law school about criminal limitations: 1) Practical reasons, for organizing police efforts, allowing courts to focus on more recent crimes etc. 2) Fading of evidence 3) The criminal, after 15 or 20 years, is basically another person than the one who committed the crime
@@banana-uo3be Can we claim its resocialization purposes then ? That sounds more like revenge which is cited not to be a factor in favour of putting people behind bars? how is that possible then?
@@jakubrogacz6829 true. Extending their sentence also plays a part on why most of the outcome as soon as they are released is recidivism. So really, it's not helping at all. Maybe retributive justice wasn't really as effective as some people thought it would've been?
human bean not all homicide is illegal. There is a concept called "justifiable homicide" in which you HAD to kill them, usually self defense or defense of property. And while homicide is killing someone else, if you intend to kill someone in self defense, you "intended to homicide". But the self defense aspect means it isn't illegal and therefore you can't be charged with "intentional homicide".
"im lazy" she says as she compiles a large excel document on statute of limitations of each country with variables accounted for and eventually makes a code that visually displays said information
I still list i like reading as one of my most important personality traits, but i really just dont read that much anymore. The reason? School basically took the joy out of it. Out of everything requiring effort. Reading and programming.
I stopped reading for fun (unless I'm in school and done with my work) back in like 3rd grade because of all the assigned reading I had to do. I haven't touched an actual book for entertainment in years. I feel like school did that to me, but to be fair, I wouldn't be able to read at all if it wasn't for school.
Heeeell yeah Grammah! You going *DOWN*!!! But really, do you remember that case about ten or so years back when that one Grandmother got pulled up and tried for being in the Manson Family in the 60's? This was like 50 years later, and she was a suburban book clubbin cookie masterin minivan kids to schoolin straight up grandma, but also used to be a total G and the law caught up. I don't think she was even involved in anything but the commune either. However DO NOT take that as fact. I don't clearly remember her level of involvement. I just remember that this indeed happened.
@@Rabbit-the-One Not sure what you're referring to. Unless she was one of the people claiming to be Charles Manson's heir after he died since there was a huge legal battle over that (Ask a Mortician has a great video on it). It wouldn't surprise me if the cops started looking back into some of them afterwards haha
As a laywer, when you introduced the premis of this video I really gasped at the amount of work that you would have to put into figuring this out. (often the statute of limitations is dependent on the specific crime, so it's hard to get one number for every country) Also I would say that the main reason why we have this concept is to allow for legal certainty.
In the US it also depends on if you are charged at the state (and in which state) or federal level, they all have different laws and statues of limitations.
@ Not neccesarily; greenland enjoys a great deal of autonomy despite being part of the Kingdom of Denmark. They have their own little parliment and are allowed to do a lot of their own legislation. The only subjects that I know for sure they have to bow to the will of the greater danish parliment are matters of foreign policy and national security
@@tomsoki5738 technically some former colonies that still recognise the queen as head of state, do have a statute of limitations, at least in civil cases (e.g. Australia).
@@tomsoki5738 It's only murder that doesn't have a statute of limitations, you can technically comment other crimes and get away with it if you lay low long enough in Britain and her ex-colonies.
As a game designer, another valid reason is that the longer you wait to deliver negative feedback (in this case a prison sentence) the less meaningful that feedback is at influencing a persons behavior. If the goal is to rehabilitate the person who has committed the crime, there's little to no benefit to punishing that person after they forgot they even committed the crime, because while they are now dealing with the effect, they can no longer make a connection between it and the cause.
idk, rationality can get you way further then raw temporal associativity (or whatever it's called, not a psychologist) you can influence one's behavior by simply talking to them (about the existence and working of law) instead of them having to suffer through the punishment themselves
Sabrina: *Litterally searches for every country's limitation period for murder* All intelligence agencies in the world: "Allow us to introduce ourselves..."
@@dbergerac9632yes, it's beautiful to see how someone can correct someone else on the internet and the other person just thanks and corrects their mistake. It's so beautiful it almost makes me think that there is hope for humanity.
Sabrina: *spends three days reading penal codes and compiling a spreadsheet* Also Sabrina: "I'm lazy." That word doesn't mean what you think it means 😂
It means exactly what she think it means. After all, a lazy person wouldn't want to spend too much time researching something, and laziness is a virtue, the less effort you have to do the work you need to do, the better. And efficiency and laziness go hand in hand. What you think laziness means, is a whole different matter, you think of eternal procrastination due to the lack of motivation or proper incitements. Or just that little word known as sloth, or apathy.
The Major yea, for most people laziness comes in spurts at a time. Therefore they don’t take on big accomplishments that would take a very very long time to accomplish because they know that they are occasionally lazy. Laziness can come in severe cases where you don’t wanna do anything at all, even live. And at that point it becomes a problem. But being periodically lazy is a normal occurrence, and so is over working yourself because you’re not lazy at all. How lazy you are can definitely affect your dreams and aspirations tho lol.
My thoughts on the matter: Limitations exist because exculpatory evidence can be lost. The police and prosecutors, for all practical purposes, have unlimited funds. They can create a story about you committing a crime 15 years ago. And you no longer have the hotel receipt showing you were in another state. You don't even remember exactly which hotel it was. Without limitations, you could go to jail for a crime you didn't commit.
Yeah if the witnesses who could have helped your defense have forgotten the important details or have died, then your defense becomes massively more difficult years later. Same goes for many other kinds of evidence as well.
havent finished the vid but i know for art crime: a HUGE part of it is that its often more important to the victim and cops to recover the item vs persecute whoever stole it. so, if a stolen painting is circulating but the museum is offering a reward for its return, the obvious reason that the thief never returns it is because they dont want to get caught... until they cant get caught anymore.
Interesting to see you here, but it makes sense given how a Japanese doctor was imprisoned for murder after doing the first heart transplant, which is among the topics you are interested in
I'm stunned that there are places where the statute of limitations on *murder* is only *ten years.* Things that happened ten years ago don't feel "long ago" to me at all. If I had a family member who was murdered ten years ago, I can't imagine having the killer be able to walk up to me, say they did it, and then walk away without me having any legal recourse. I also like that the first limitation law was literally: "Finders keepers. Losers weepers."
10 years is a long time for a body, a crime scene & witnesses though. very few people can accurately remember what happened 10 years ago, crime scenes change & may just not exist anymore & it's difficult to establish evidence from a body after it is a skeleton, especially evidence that would link someone to the crime. i think murder probably shouldn't have a statute, but it's more abt just that it's borderline impossible to get accurate evidence after a decade & less that murder obviously effects loved ones for life. statute should be longer if guilt can be definitively proved, but it's just hard to get evidence & convict someone after 10 years. memories get fuzzy & places change, so testimony that would be damning 10 years ago just can't be anymore. someone's recollection that places another at the scene is a lot more credible a week after than a decade after. 10 years is way too short in terms of other pros of statute (like being unlikely to commit the crime again, being likely to disclose important information, etc) but in terms of effective evidence it's just too long
As someone who was an adult on 9/11/01 and middle-aged when Michael Brown was murdered in Ferguson, I'll back you up on things that happened ten years ago.
Main reason for statutes of limitations: Evidence can get mislaid over time, witnesses die, forget, etc. Also, presumption of innocence. Just because you're accused of a crime doesn't mean you're guilty.
Absolutely. I feel like this was framed as 'Person commits crime, then after a while they are forgiven for their crime', but the justice system isn't made up of criminals who've committed crimes - it's a system designed to detect, investigate, and prosecute crimes. It's not about giving the criminal a free pass, it's about telling the justice system to move on. 10, 20 years after a murder, the chances of the person you arrest being the wrong person just keep going up.
i get why it exists for crimes only involving adults but if a crime involves a child as the victim it shouldn't exist bc children typically wont report a crime until their older, especially if its committed by their parents (which most the time it is), because most the time they dont know how to or cannot report it
When I was a child I used to think that crimes expire because after decades without doing it again the person kinda just learned the lesson on their own
This really is a valid reason for it. Why punish someone if they've already gotten better? The only reason to punish them at that point is hatred/revenge (or what some people think as "justice") It's the same reason your old medical bills fall off your credit report. You're a different person.
@@NozomuYume Yes, people confuse justice and revenge a lot. A punishment is meant to rehabilitate, not for revenge. If there is nothing to rehabilitate anymore, then there is no need for a sentence. I'd still prefer they had a mandatory psychological evaluation though if the crime was murder or something on the same level.
@@almerakbar I don't think they confuse justice and revenge _that_ much. Well personally I don't think justice is a good thing, because justice is about "giving people what they deserve." So a kind of 'fair' revenge, but an unecessary one. I think we're often stuck with positive or negative connotations to a word (positive for justice) when in reality we should be more open-minded to changing our feeling about them. If you can't then you end up with situations where the meaning of a word changes, but the connotations stay. Or simply your opinion about the matter changes but you can't convince anyone because 'only an idiot would say justice is bad' Anyway, I started rambling
@@almerakbar rehabilitation AND protection. It's why e.g. Germany, mandatory sentences are not very high, compared to the US especially, but if you're deemed a threat to society, they may very well keep you inside anyway. But that's a constant evaluation, independent of the crimes you were sentenced for.
This would be a good explanation if the offender actually didn’t reoffend. But expiration doesn’t depend on that. A crime will expire even if the offender constantly reoffends. In my country it was explained to us that expiration is mainly for legal certainty and legal peace (? Don’t know how to accurately translate it). Basically, if you shoplifted six years ago, nobody really cares anymore. People forget and go on with their lives, society isn’t disturbed by it anymore and it doesn’t do any good stirring up the dust. Obviously in my country some of these expiration periods are really long, like 30 years. And if it comes to certain crimes against minors, the expiration period only starts once the victim turns 18. And some crimes don’t expire at all, because there would never be peace if we just let a murderer off the hook. The idea is that we punish a crime if the legal peace was and still is disturbed by it.
I've been watching since your stint as a guest John on Vlogbrothers, and it has been really amazing to see your channel grow and change. I can only imagine the amount of work that went into this video, but it is beautiful and informative and I really appreciate it!
This video was recommended to me and I haven't seen any of her videos, but I definitely recognized her. Wouldn't have put together that she was on vlogbrothers since I haven't watched them in forever.
"I stopped reading because school crushed my spirit" wow what an accurate description of the American education system! This is exactly what happened to me. Started in 8th grade when I got punished for reading because I read the book we were supposed to read in 1 quarter in 1 class period and wanted to read other things. I ended up reading the book ch1-end, then ch2-end, ch2-end etc.
One thing that I think makes crimes expiring more fair is that if you commit the same crime again, you essentially restart the timer. So if you go 50 years without doing that crime again, you've essentially served almost a kind of soft probation.
This was *such* a refreshing view on statute of limitations. As a criminology student, I'm normally bemoaning them when it comes to sexual assault or abuse cases.
@@rolandtowen2595 Wait... So in the US it's possible to do a rape kit - for which you have to seek help and everything - but that doesn't get tested? Do you have to press charges first, or is your process just so slow that the police just doesn't act on charges against an unknown perpetrator? Like, I thought that these cases only applied to women who did nothing for years, no testing or seeking official help, telling nobody, that thereby loose there chance to get justice - because they themselves sorta destroy the evidence in an attempt to forget. But this... this is terrible!
@@kathrinlindern2697 indeed, it is terrible. Due to a lack of laboratory workers/funding, police must make a choice between which kits are sent and which are not. As of yet, there is no way to track your rape kit the way one might track an Amazon package. Victims might never know that their kit remains untested.
I was genuinely surprised þat some people find murder to be worse þan rape, especially since murders receive love letters in prison and þe media makes þem out like fallen heroes while rapists are seen as þe worst possible scum. Personally I don't þink þat we should view sexual crimes as different from oþer crimes, and þe gender of þe victim should be irrelevant.
@@-haclong2366 Hey. I can tell that English isn't your first language. Replace the þ with th, it will make it easier for people to read. Also, I totally agree with you!
Hearing that the person call themselves lazy although they spend three days searching information to show something to people... it's pain, you are cool, i love you
The logic that limiting lawsuits prevents lawsuits acting on old beef also applies to crimes. Prevents the state from being like "nah I'll let it slide" towards your crimes, and then 20 years later you become outspoken against the state and the government being like "yeah we're gonna lock you up. Not for dissent, but for jaywalking ;)"
My cousin's and I were not able to have my case go to court for being molested by my cousin since some of the worse things happened to far back and they recent ones weren't enough for them to want to prosecute. It breaks my heart that a statute of limitation is on these things
Your commitment to finding answers really is refreshing... thank you for sharing your learning with us and doing it in such a beautiful format. (You are the sort of nerd I can’t wait to grow up to be)
Your animation is on POINT. Also just kudos on your ability to make such slick and well-polished content even when there's some rough and ready elements to it. Like, seriously you got some low res shots and that iffy keying and yet I'm still here like "Damn, did someone mess up and upload this Netflix docu-short to UA-cam?"
One thing I always assumed is that, well, if you committed a crime a long time ago, but then reformed and didn't commit a crime again, after a certain amount of years, it becomes kinda pointless to punish someone that may have already reformed by themselves or just, haven't committed a crime again. Mostly because jail tends to make non criminals into criminal-criminals
Yeah, it would be so cool if they had some sort of vlog or streaming channel for less-effort videos that record their progress/process. I would watch that.
Kenton Benoit Please be nice. While personally I doubt I would have enough patience to watch through what they’re suggesting, please at least be nice about it!
It makes sense to me - if someone commits a crime and the statute of limitations runs out, that often means they weren't out committing worse/repeat offenses, or they didn't cause enough of a problem for law enforcement to get involved. At worst, they're constantly on the run from law enforcement, but at least that life is kind of a punishment in and of itself.
"I always assumed that the law was more reactive to modern climates" *laughs in homosexuality illegal in 40 of 53 commonwealth countries thanks to the one same penal code*
For reference: "The Commonwealth of Nations is a voluntary association of 54 sovereign states. Nearly all of them are former British colonies or dependencies of those colonies. No one government in the Commonwealth exercises power over the others, as is the case in a political union. Rather, the Commonwealth is an international organization in which countries with diverse social, political, and economic backgrounds are regarded as equal in status, and cooperate within a framework of common values and goals, as outlined in the Singapore Declaration issued in 1971.[1] Such common values and goals include the promotion of democracy, human rights, good governance, the rule of law, individual liberty, equality before the law, free trade, multilateralism, and world peace, which are promoted through multilateral projects and meetings, such as the Commonwealth Games, held once every four years."
Perhaps the climates of said countries aren't very modern? Unfortunately, over the past decade or so, we've seen many countries across the world move towards a much more dated political climate.
Classic joke move back in model UN days: The delegate from the United States poses a question to the floor: "If Turkey invaded Djibouti would Greece be involved?"
I know this is very late but I think it's worth mentioning. I have a law degree and a specialised masters. The trend you're seeing of UK colonies are due to the adoption of their common law system. In the UK for example, limitations do exist but they are in case law which you need special access to private databases to see, it's all copyrighted so you won't find it on Google. The same is true for many of the commonwealth. As for the intentional homicide, you've missed out that many jurisdictions don't have such a category. This matters because they often look at level of responsibility rather than anything else. So driving drunk through a mall for example, may not lead to an intent to kill, but your responsibility is so high that a reasonable person would have seen death as an obvious outcome that could happen and in this way you have constructive intent. These may still mean lower sentences etc but the same crime, so jurisdictions may have a lower statute of limitation, or higher, dependant on what you include in the crime. Again, this is often common law and not included in statutes and codes. Not a bad analysis by someone who isn't a legal expert ofc, just thought these were pretty important factors. For an in depth analysis you would also need to start looking at laws on evidence. It's all nice being able to prosecute after 50 years but certain laws on evidence are newer than that, and as such even though they could be prosecuted there's simply no way the original evidence could be used, whether due to storage concerns etc etc. Edit: the reason I include the last section is that law is often reactive, which is always true in a common law system. If nobody has been prosecuted for a 20 year old crime because of new police codes making all interviews inadmissable that were taken at the time, nobody will create a statute of limitations. If this case may somehow one day happen, it would be very easy to argue that the trend in prosecution would unfairly disadvantage the defendant as there has so far been an implied limitation through the action of the judiciary. Common law is all about interpreting judicial action, with many solid precedents being established that may not even have been the main issue in the case at hand. That's why judges nowadays make so many obiter statements, to disclaim precedents they don't believe they considered enough to create any binding force on the matter.
Wait, by "in case law" you mean like "judicial decisions in general"? I'm not a native English speaker and I have a lot of interest in this matter. So, why should "in case law" be copyrighted? If it's really about precedents, shouldn't it be public domain, since it's produced by the government? Also, this would just gatekeep this information to professionals that really need to access them. It's kinds difficult for me to understand because here in Brasil every single judicial decision is public and anyone can access it.
@@Deletaste it's not public domain because the reporting is done by private companies. The public is super underfunded so I don't even use the public domains for statutes, the parliament website isn't up to date. There was a charity that tried to create a free of charge service but it had trouble (I don't remember if it got shut down) because providing case law for free, with the stated objective of making people more aware of the laws, also provided them for free for all lawyers so there was questions of if it was really a charity. Don't remember how that ended, but it's hilariously corrupt thinking sponsored by the companies making a profit. Case law refers to all cases technically, so yeah judicial decisions in cases, but it more specifically is used to refer to precedents within cases.
I don't think you represented the meaning of derek parfit's statement very well. At least to my understanding, he's saying that after a long time has passed, it is actually immorral to punish the person. Even if you could prove exactly with a fair trial that they did commit the crime. And that is because that person has changed so much that they aren't the same person that committed the crime anymore.
Yeah, that's how I took that quote. I'm not sure I fully agree with it, but I think it makes a lot of sense for minor crimes. For someone who stole a candy bar as a kid, they're obviously a different person now.
which is a hilariously stupid idea. A person who got away with a crime does not develop into a better person. There are no exceptions to this rule. And the victim is not healed in any way just because the perpetrator has changed. It is immoral to let a murder live. There are no exceptions. Their victim did not have the opportunity to grow and change, the murderer must die, and any who would allow that monster to live will burn for all eternity in hell for sheer moral corruption.
@@zilvoxidgod Remember, the point of a sentence is to rehabilitate, not for avenging the victim. If the murderer is now a productive and sensible member of society, then there is nothing left to rehabilitate.
@@zilvoxidgod Further adding onto everything else said above me, why is more murder the response to murder? Murdering the murderer removes any chances at rehabilitation or otherwise punishment because the only punishment is... Death? If you murder someone, you're likely not going to care about being killed beyond the base human instinct of not wanting to die. A better punishment is to ensure they never do it again while also trying to ensure the person actually faced punishment for what they've done, but as we've already established, murderers who receive the death sentence often do not care if they die. A better punishment is long and enduring, trying to rehabilitate them so the murdered's death means something.
@@almerakbar Fines are punishments not rehabilitation. Prisons however are for many things... Punishments, rehabilitation or keeping harmful people away from others. Many don't agree on which we should prioritise or even which are legitimate reasons.
I really hope you get the chance to submit these for some college project or something... the professor would be like: "is there a letter grade above A?!"
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Thank you, Brian David Gilbert of Crime, for this fascinating explanation of how to maximise my chances of getting away with murder so long as I have the money to travel to somewhere not colonised by the British
I couldn't sue my doctor for botching my surgery because the limitations came up, even though the symptoms didn't show until a few years after the surgery; the statute was 3 years post surgery. I'm stuck with those side effects forever and I have to pay to have the surgery done again 🙃
The limitation period generally begins when the plaintiff's cause of action accrues, meaning the date upon which the plaintiff is first able to maintain the cause of action in court, or when the plaintiff first becomes aware of a previous injury (for example, occupational lung diseases such as asbestosis).
Exactly, that whole „crime = bad, and thus shouldn't be forgiven“ mindset is so weird. At least she somewhat changed her mind, I wonder what her opinion is on this today
Worrying about what people “deserve” has always seemed problematic to me. Just worry about what will make the future better. Often those things that will make the future better align with what we think people deserve.
Here's the problem with that idea. It gives the power to people who do bad things because as long as they do bad things in such a way that punishing them is not worth it they can keep doing bad things. In the long run worrying about the future means worrying about what people deserve.
@@DIVAD291 The two have some overlap of course, but they aren't identical. Worrying about what's best for the future *must include* worrying about keeping people from doing bad things again and again. Since that's part of the future. But this video revolves specifically around people who *didn't* abuse the fact they weren't punished to do more crimes. If they did, it would be irrelevant if their old crimes were ignored, as they'd have plenty of newer ones.
@@DIVAD291 If a person commits murder, it shows they are willing to commit murder, so there's a high risk they will perform another murder. This risk is bad for society, so we lock them up until we deem them low risk. I live in a country that has a focus on rehabilitation. But if someone commits murder but has lived without doing another crime for 30 years, then they have demonstrated that they can get by legally and don't have any particular urge to commit crime, so it's assumed they have rehabilitated themselves, as they get along with society.
It's weird how we can forget about a murder charge in about 10 years because they are a new person, but people can serve way more than 10 if charged. In some areas, murder is the death penalty. And for the vast majority of people, 10 years still has plenty of life to be lived after.
Thank you so much for this Video! I discovered the statute of limitations watching Itaewon class, episode 3. I am always after the "why"s and could not resist finding out what this meant. I am deeply Grateful for the amount of knowledge people like you collect, summarize and make it fun to read. People call you nerds but I call you a hero. Thank you so much Ms
Oh I've learned about this once. The study I read talked about how if you punish someone too late the effect wont work and the only reason to do it is moral rage.
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There was a guy who recently was found out to have escaped from prison 40ish years before the authorities figured it out. The legal process was started but the court eventually realized that this guy may have escaped jailtime but he then went totally straight and never got so much as a speeding ticket for 40 years so they decided to dismiss his case and let him go. Unfortunately, he died like 8 months later iirc.
Wow, this video was just really impressive. I've gotten so used to having youtube videos only vaguely sort of touch the subject that is the premise for the video. This, this was not that. I loved this, it was super cool and interesting! This made me excited about going back to start my next semester at university
I just realized that your voice is so clear that I don’t need captions. I dunno why that makes me giddy, but it does. (Ps: your voice is also super calming.)
100% agree. Now murder should never expire, but yes you’re absolutely a different, person. If you have a soul, you have to live with that crime in your head everyday, sometimes your mind can be much worse then any prison.
@@xphonegaminginc.6310 "If you have a soul, you have to live with that crime in your head everyday, sometimes your mind can be much worse then any prison." That assumes you are an empathetic person. There are people out there who can kill another person and not feel any bad about it.
It's also a special kind of principle witness regulation. When your crimes are forgiven, then maybe that will lead you to reveal some information which helps punish worse crimes, retrieve valuables or prevent further physical harm. In Germany and Japan there's a saying "Mord verjährt nicht" which means that intentional homicide does never expire, but also implies, that pretty much every other crime does expire. The above reason and the fact that our principle witness regulations are pretty weak explain part of why we should let all other crimes expire.
Something else to consider: Laws are made by people and therefore, aren't perfect. It was illegal to be homosexual in many countries not that long ago, and still is in some countries. Letting the crime 'expire' so to speak, is a way to right some wrongs if someone would be convicted even though the date at which the law is going to be overturned or abolished is already set.
I almost feel like statute of limitations is also to do with the idea that if the person in question hasn't continued to commit crimes then they must have changed. If they haven't changed, and have continued committing crimes, then there will be more recent evidence.
Love that the netherlands has the rule that if you do something and it becomes illegal after you wont be charged. As well as that if you were ruled innocent by the highest court that they cannot bother you about it anymore (exept they added something about being able to go back to heavy crimes like murder)
This video has big BDG unraveled energy tbh
god bless the man who saved Polygon.. well. monster factory too
Could not ask for a better energy.
Okay but honestly its more like an alternate universe where unraveled has strong lawful good energy instead of the chaotic good that it has in this universe
Didn't waste/use enough paper.
Hey you should try to get hired by VOX News😃
You didn't mention it in your video, but the presumption of innocence hasn't always been the legal standard. In many countries throughout time, the accused was assumed guilty unless they could prove their innocence through evidence and testimony.
Through that light, the statute of limitations makes even more sense: if your witnesses and evidence have gone away, how can you prove your innocence?
That could also explain why the Anglo-world doesn't have statutes of limitation on intentional homicide. Presumption of Innocence is a core component of Anglo-American law and thus the burden of proof falls on the accuser (the state) rather than the accused.
Ian Neufeld ua-cam.com/video/Js-soWMnTVc/v-deo.html
@@peregry that and the UK doesn't have a statute of limitation on anything
wasn’t that the point of the video, you lose the “right to a fair trial”
Ian Neufeld i love your foto
In Norway there is an intersting conversation going on regarding statutes of limitations on crimes against children, especially abuse. Because they usually don't report the crimes until they are grown ups, so the crimes are "too old", even though the abuse is still affecting their lives (and they might still know their abuser).
Yes, this is a common problem with disasterous consequences. Until people understand PTSD more it is unlikely they will understand why it takes so long for us to face our fears.
They should definitely do that. At a young age I had been consistently abused and I can’t report anything because my own family didn’t believe me and made sure to gaslight me, belittle me and conceal all the evidence to protect a p3d0. I can’t sue now. It’s been too long and all the evidence has been destroyed.
@@mlem1042 problem is would it be good at larger scale. I personally know people who would use that law with impunity to get rid of people they personally dislike. And it was said in this very video, after 10 years there is no evidence for nor against. It turns into who sells better sob story. It would be catastrophic on large scale simply because liars exist.
@@jakubrogacz6829 the thing is this type of behaviour is repetitive. I don't feel bad for myself, whom I do feel bad for is all the little girls he could be harming right now. An average rapist rapes 6 victims. There are very likely newer cases than mine that could be used to provide background for my case and most importantly to get their cases going. I don't care about justice or revenge. What I do care about is removing him from the proximity of children as well as adults and generally any breathing thing. There are liars but of the 10% of cases that do get reported, only 0.5% of all allegations are thought to be false. (Btw only 10% of all cases get reported, how sad is that? A big reason why are cases like mine) I don't get depressed about me going through that. What I do get depressed about is how people like this get treated afterwards - gaslighting, disbelief and victim blaming. I don't want anyone else to have to go through that. There should be no such thing as limitations on crimes committed against children. Not to mention, there are cases in which there is video footage. It's sad but cases like this exist and at least these would be important to look into since there is evidence and very compelling evidence to say the least. Rape is a difficult crime to prove as is. Barely any rapist gets convicted, the last thing you have to worry about is false allegations since the victims are fighting against time and it is hard to prove a recent rape let alone a rape that happened like a decade ago. So basically what I am saying is it is nearly impossible to get anyone into prison for this unless it actually happened and the offender was being sloppy since there always has to be proof or at the very least a big amount of testimonies so no one person can put anyone in jail for a false allegation like this. This system protects rapists as is. Any victim deserves a chance to remove the danger no matter how long ago it happened. In fact, this is in your best interest since the same people they could be putting in jail could have raped you or your kids one day had something like this not been allowed. Keep in mind, the false allegations are the last thing you have to worry about. If somebody wants to accuse you of a crime you didn't do, they probably will not ever take it to the police. They will just shit talk you. You can be accused even if this is not an option. This only has benefits.
@@jakubrogacz6829 I am sorry that the comment is so long, I am drunk right now and didn't know how to shorten it.
This is exactly what we were taught in law school about criminal limitations:
1) Practical reasons, for organizing police efforts, allowing courts to focus on more recent crimes etc.
2) Fading of evidence
3) The criminal, after 15 or 20 years, is basically another person than the one who committed the crime
3 is basically why I think almost all prison sentences should be under 10-15 years. Including violent crimes.
@@cadekachelmeier7251 idk man, some crimes are too cruel to be forgiven in such a short period of time.
@@banana-uo3be Can we claim its resocialization purposes then ? That sounds more like revenge which is cited not to be a factor in favour of putting people behind bars? how is that possible then?
@@jakubrogacz6829 true. Extending their sentence also plays a part on why most of the outcome as soon as they are released is recidivism. So really, it's not helping at all. Maybe retributive justice wasn't really as effective as some people thought it would've been?
@@cadekachelmeier7251 All rape, murder, or anything like that should be immediate death penalty, no exceptions.
"intentional homicide means you intended to homicide" good that's cleared up now
Not really because intending to homicide does not meet the requirements of intentional homicide.
@@thomasknight604 wat
human bean not all homicide is illegal. There is a concept called "justifiable homicide" in which you HAD to kill them, usually self defense or defense of property. And while homicide is killing someone else, if you intend to kill someone in self defense, you "intended to homicide". But the self defense aspect means it isn't illegal and therefore you can't be charged with "intentional homicide".
I still don't understand, more explanation needed
@@themadlad_ intentional homicide is first or second degree murder. Intending to homicide is attempted murder. Different charges.
"im lazy" she says as she compiles a large excel document on statute of limitations of each country with variables accounted for and eventually makes a code that visually displays said information
I am pretty sure it was google sheets but...
IDK why i brothered to correct you
Also at that time I was attending an online course about excel so maybe that's why, lol
This is the kind of laziness i strive for
Doing sheets is fun.
typical INTP behaviour while hyperfocusing ^^'
6:54 "I used to go the library when I was a kid, but then i stopped reading because school crushed my spirit..."
-Sabrina
I felt that
Same
I still list i like reading as one of my most important personality traits, but i really just dont read that much anymore. The reason? School basically took the joy out of it. Out of everything requiring effort. Reading and programming.
I stopped reading for fun (unless I'm in school and done with my work) back in like 3rd grade because of all the assigned reading I had to do. I haven't touched an actual book for entertainment in years. I feel like school did that to me, but to be fair, I wouldn't be able to read at all if it wasn't for school.
The reason limitations exist: Are you seriously gonna put someone's kind and loving grandma in prison because she used to sell drugs back in the 60s?
Heeeell yeah Grammah! You going *DOWN*!!! But really, do you remember that case about ten or so years back when that one Grandmother got pulled up and tried for being in the Manson Family in the 60's? This was like 50 years later, and she was a suburban book clubbin cookie masterin minivan kids to schoolin straight up grandma, but also used to be a total G and the law caught up. I don't think she was even involved in anything but the commune either. However DO NOT take that as fact. I don't clearly remember her level of involvement. I just remember that this indeed happened.
@@Rabbit-the-One Not sure what you're referring to. Unless she was one of the people claiming to be Charles Manson's heir after he died since there was a huge legal battle over that (Ask a Mortician has a great video on it). It wouldn't surprise me if the cops started looking back into some of them afterwards haha
ickibot geez what god forsaken country do you live in?
@@EGlVM OP specifically said for selling drugs 50+ years ago... Not murder!
Plus old people are expensive to house in prison. That’s why they get early releases.
Jan 1 2020, anything is possible. 2020: everything happened.
dbergerac "never went to the gym? now you can!" was a little too funny
2020: "HOLD MY BEER"
WAIT NO WE DIDN'T MEAN IT LIKE THAT!
@@MollyAhern "now you can't"
2021 : well yes, but no...
As a laywer, when you introduced the premis of this video I really gasped at the amount of work that you would have to put into figuring this out. (often the statute of limitations is dependent on the specific crime, so it's hard to get one number for every country) Also I would say that the main reason why we have this concept is to allow for legal certainty.
Can you make that sped sheet availabe? It's so good lol
In the US it also depends on if you are charged at the state (and in which state) or federal level, they all have different laws and statues of limitations.
"I forgot about Greenland"
sounds like every virus in plague INC
@ Not neccesarily; greenland enjoys a great deal of autonomy despite being part of the Kingdom of Denmark. They have their own little parliment and are allowed to do a lot of their own legislation. The only subjects that I know for sure they have to bow to the will of the greater danish parliment are matters of foreign policy and national security
freakymoejoe2 i’m from greenland and it’s the same laws as in denmark
Sabrina is a virus confirmed
@M Y N W O R D lmao
Lol I actually figured out a strategy to basically always win Plague INC so I eventually got bored and deleted it XD
So the phrase "its not illegal if you don't get caught" Is legally speaking accurate.
Only after a couple of years though
Not if your in the UK or any of the ex British colonies haha
@@tomsoki5738 technically some former colonies that still recognise the queen as head of state, do have a statute of limitations, at least in civil cases (e.g. Australia).
Wrong. It's still illegal. It's just un-punishable after a certain period of time.
@@tomsoki5738 It's only murder that doesn't have a statute of limitations, you can technically comment other crimes and get away with it if you lay low long enough in Britain and her ex-colonies.
As a game designer, another valid reason is that the longer you wait to deliver negative feedback (in this case a prison sentence) the less meaningful that feedback is at influencing a persons behavior. If the goal is to rehabilitate the person who has committed the crime, there's little to no benefit to punishing that person after they forgot they even committed the crime, because while they are now dealing with the effect, they can no longer make a connection between it and the cause.
idk, rationality can get you way further then raw temporal associativity (or whatever it's called, not a psychologist)
you can influence one's behavior by simply talking to them (about the existence and working of law) instead of them having to suffer through the punishment themselves
Sabrina: *Litterally searches for every country's limitation period for murder*
All intelligence agencies in the world: "Allow us to introduce ourselves..."
I seriously don't wanna be that person, but it's really bothering me... I politely correct your spelling; *introduce
@@enbyfabulosity2521 thx
THAT can really happen. I've seen it.
@@dbergerac9632yes, it's beautiful to see how someone can correct someone else on the internet and the other person just thanks and corrects their mistake. It's so beautiful it almost makes me think that there is hope for humanity.
@@AllNiin I'm old. I miss civility and manners. We should bring those back.
That database is?? So pretty??? We love a good color-coded chart.
You're a saint for putting this together omg
we? How many of you are between your ears?
SarahAnnRose23 ua-cam.com/video/Js-soWMnTVc/v-deo.html
Same question. We?
I hereby accept your we. I love stats and charts, there are now atleast two of us
A good coloured chart makes it so much easier to read
its crazy how quickly you can tell someone is interested in what theyre talking about and not just doing it for content.
Sabrina: *spends three days reading penal codes and compiling a spreadsheet*
Also Sabrina: "I'm lazy."
That word doesn't mean what you think it means 😂
It means exactly what she think it means. After all, a lazy person wouldn't want to spend too much time researching something, and laziness is a virtue, the less effort you have to do the work you need to do, the better.
And efficiency and laziness go hand in hand.
What you think laziness means, is a whole different matter, you think of eternal procrastination due to the lack of motivation or proper incitements. Or just that little word known as sloth, or apathy.
The Major yea, for most people laziness comes in spurts at a time. Therefore they don’t take on big accomplishments that would take a very very long time to accomplish because they know that they are occasionally lazy. Laziness can come in severe cases where you don’t wanna do anything at all, even live. And at that point it becomes a problem. But being periodically lazy is a normal occurrence, and so is over working yourself because you’re not lazy at all. How lazy you are can definitely affect your dreams and aspirations tho lol.
As one myself
Lazy hardworkers exist
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
Sounds like ADHD
My thoughts on the matter:
Limitations exist because exculpatory evidence can be lost. The police and prosecutors, for all practical purposes, have unlimited funds. They can create a story about you committing a crime 15 years ago. And you no longer have the hotel receipt showing you were in another state. You don't even remember exactly which hotel it was. Without limitations, you could go to jail for a crime you didn't commit.
Interesting possibility.
what are your thoughts on the UK? we don't have any sort of statute of limitations here so crimes can be prosecuted even 50 years later.
@@skellious
I think it is almost certain that they jail innocents.
Yeah if the witnesses who could have helped your defense have forgotten the important details or have died, then your defense becomes massively more difficult years later. Same goes for many other kinds of evidence as well.
This makes sense especially back when everything was paper and nothing was long-lived
havent finished the vid but i know for art crime: a HUGE part of it is that its often more important to the victim and cops to recover the item vs persecute whoever stole it. so, if a stolen painting is circulating but the museum is offering a reward for its return, the obvious reason that the thief never returns it is because they dont want to get caught... until they cant get caught anymore.
Amazing piece of work.
Heyyyy I am your fan
Interesting to see you here, but it makes sense given how a Japanese doctor was imprisoned for murder after doing the first heart transplant, which is among the topics you are interested in
Found Medlife Crisis in the wild!
"...and then i stopped reading because school crushed my spirit" Oof that hurts because it's so relatable...
I'm stunned that there are places where the statute of limitations on *murder* is only *ten years.* Things that happened ten years ago don't feel "long ago" to me at all. If I had a family member who was murdered ten years ago, I can't imagine having the killer be able to walk up to me, say they did it, and then walk away without me having any legal recourse.
I also like that the first limitation law was literally: "Finders keepers. Losers weepers."
10 years is a long time for a body, a crime scene & witnesses though. very few people can accurately remember what happened 10 years ago, crime scenes change & may just not exist anymore & it's difficult to establish evidence from a body after it is a skeleton, especially evidence that would link someone to the crime. i think murder probably shouldn't have a statute, but it's more abt just that it's borderline impossible to get accurate evidence after a decade & less that murder obviously effects loved ones for life. statute should be longer if guilt can be definitively proved, but it's just hard to get evidence & convict someone after 10 years. memories get fuzzy & places change, so testimony that would be damning 10 years ago just can't be anymore. someone's recollection that places another at the scene is a lot more credible a week after than a decade after. 10 years is way too short in terms of other pros of statute (like being unlikely to commit the crime again, being likely to disclose important information, etc) but in terms of effective evidence it's just too long
As someone who was an adult on 9/11/01 and middle-aged when Michael Brown was murdered in Ferguson, I'll back you up on things that happened ten years ago.
Main reason for statutes of limitations: Evidence can get mislaid over time, witnesses die, forget, etc. Also, presumption of innocence. Just because you're accused of a crime doesn't mean you're guilty.
I think the real main reason is to avoid the number of active cases going infinite.
Absolutely. I feel like this was framed as 'Person commits crime, then after a while they are forgiven for their crime', but the justice system isn't made up of criminals who've committed crimes - it's a system designed to detect, investigate, and prosecute crimes. It's not about giving the criminal a free pass, it's about telling the justice system to move on. 10, 20 years after a murder, the chances of the person you arrest being the wrong person just keep going up.
i get why it exists for crimes only involving adults but if a crime involves a child as the victim it shouldn't exist bc children typically wont report a crime until their older, especially if its committed by their parents (which most the time it is), because most the time they dont know how to or cannot report it
When I was a child I used to think that crimes expire because after decades without doing it again the person kinda just learned the lesson on their own
This really is a valid reason for it. Why punish someone if they've already gotten better? The only reason to punish them at that point is hatred/revenge (or what some people think as "justice")
It's the same reason your old medical bills fall off your credit report. You're a different person.
@@NozomuYume Yes, people confuse justice and revenge a lot. A punishment is meant to rehabilitate, not for revenge. If there is nothing to rehabilitate anymore, then there is no need for a sentence. I'd still prefer they had a mandatory psychological evaluation though if the crime was murder or something on the same level.
@@almerakbar
I don't think they confuse justice and revenge _that_ much. Well personally I don't think justice is a good thing, because justice is about "giving people what they deserve." So a kind of 'fair' revenge, but an unecessary one. I think we're often stuck with positive or negative connotations to a word (positive for justice) when in reality we should be more open-minded to changing our feeling about them. If you can't then you end up with situations where the meaning of a word changes, but the connotations stay. Or simply your opinion about the matter changes but you can't convince anyone because 'only an idiot would say justice is bad'
Anyway, I started rambling
@@almerakbar rehabilitation AND protection. It's why e.g. Germany, mandatory sentences are not very high, compared to the US especially, but if you're deemed a threat to society, they may very well keep you inside anyway. But that's a constant evaluation, independent of the crimes you were sentenced for.
This would be a good explanation if the offender actually didn’t reoffend. But expiration doesn’t depend on that. A crime will expire even if the offender constantly reoffends.
In my country it was explained to us that expiration is mainly for legal certainty and legal peace (? Don’t know how to accurately translate it). Basically, if you shoplifted six years ago, nobody really cares anymore. People forget and go on with their lives, society isn’t disturbed by it anymore and it doesn’t do any good stirring up the dust. Obviously in my country some of these expiration periods are really long, like 30 years. And if it comes to certain crimes against minors, the expiration period only starts once the victim turns 18. And some crimes don’t expire at all, because there would never be peace if we just let a murderer off the hook. The idea is that we punish a crime if the legal peace was and still is disturbed by it.
"I love libraries. I used to go all the time when I was a kid, but then I stopped reading, because school crushed my spirit"
Many nods of agreement.
I've been watching since your stint as a guest John on Vlogbrothers, and it has been really amazing to see your channel grow and change. I can only imagine the amount of work that went into this video, but it is beautiful and informative and I really appreciate it!
I agree and share the sentiment! Thank you for saying the thing +
This video was recommended to me and I haven't seen any of her videos, but I definitely recognized her. Wouldn't have put together that she was on vlogbrothers since I haven't watched them in forever.
Oh right and i just remembered that she was a host on Crash Course kids too!
3:02 I'm sorry, but I keep mishearing "you should live in the booty"
What did she actually say? Dubai?
@@Nigarj Djibouti, a country in East Africa
@@muyou6589 Isn't it pronounced like "ji-boot-ee", not "di-boot-ee"? I think that's part of the confusion
UNDERATED!!
@@eliza8514 Yes, it is pronounced "ji-boo-tee"
"I stopped reading because school crushed my spirit" wow what an accurate description of the American education system! This is exactly what happened to me. Started in 8th grade when I got punished for reading because I read the book we were supposed to read in 1 quarter in 1 class period and wanted to read other things. I ended up reading the book ch1-end, then ch2-end, ch2-end etc.
@H⭕hmW🌐rk Nah, I only told her when she "caught" me reading something else. She was a control freak
People who don’t read the description with all of its tasty sources and puns have remorse
this comment made me realize I forgot to change the code word from my last video so... oops (you get imaginary bonus points for it).
youtuber who includes sources, amazing
Sabrina that was a fowl pun
@@answerinprogress remorse
“In Dabooty” sounds like a whole other crime
Intrigue
Penal codes in "Dabooty"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 well played
Degdeg so it’s a medieval society?
@Degdeg """justice"""
One thing that I think makes crimes expiring more fair is that if you commit the same crime again, you essentially restart the timer.
So if you go 50 years without doing that crime again, you've essentially served almost a kind of soft probation.
If you don't restart the timer. You have a second timer.
@whitelichmage7004
There's no limitations on murder. There's still limitations on arson and rape. Probably manslaughter.
This was *such* a refreshing view on statute of limitations. As a criminology student, I'm normally bemoaning them when it comes to sexual assault or abuse cases.
Do you think a fair trial that leads to an actual conviction can be possible after that time for charges like sexual assault or abuse?
@@rolandtowen2595 Wait... So in the US it's possible to do a rape kit - for which you have to seek help and everything - but that doesn't get tested? Do you have to press charges first, or is your process just so slow that the police just doesn't act on charges against an unknown perpetrator? Like, I thought that these cases only applied to women who did nothing for years, no testing or seeking official help, telling nobody, that thereby loose there chance to get justice - because they themselves sorta destroy the evidence in an attempt to forget. But this... this is terrible!
@@kathrinlindern2697 indeed, it is terrible. Due to a lack of laboratory workers/funding, police must make a choice between which kits are sent and which are not. As of yet, there is no way to track your rape kit the way one might track an Amazon package. Victims might never know that their kit remains untested.
I was genuinely surprised þat some people find murder to be worse þan rape, especially since murders receive love letters in prison and þe media makes þem out like fallen heroes while rapists are seen as þe worst possible scum. Personally I don't þink þat we should view sexual crimes as different from oþer crimes, and þe gender of þe victim should be irrelevant.
@@-haclong2366 Hey. I can tell that English isn't your first language. Replace the þ with th, it will make it easier for people to read.
Also, I totally agree with you!
"I'm lazy" she says, having done hours upon hours of research for an 11 minute video
She said she spent 3 days reading up on penal codes..
and that’s not counting the time spent filming, editing, rendering...
procrastination does wonders
Hearing that the person call themselves lazy although they spend three days searching information to show something to people... it's pain, you are cool, i love you
4:29
Sabrina: "I'm lazy"
Also Sabrina: *painstakingly records the statutes of limitations of over 190 countries for a UA-cam video*
Now I'm tempted to gather a list for some of the more well know crimes. All of them would be waayyyyy too hard.
Lol
The logic that limiting lawsuits prevents lawsuits acting on old beef also applies to crimes. Prevents the state from being like "nah I'll let it slide" towards your crimes, and then 20 years later you become outspoken against the state and the government being like "yeah we're gonna lock you up. Not for dissent, but for jaywalking ;)"
My cousin's and I were not able to have my case go to court for being molested by my cousin since some of the worse things happened to far back and they recent ones weren't enough for them to want to prosecute. It breaks my heart that a statute of limitation is on these things
Yep. You're very strong & you did very well by reporting. 17years on & I'm still not ready
There are indeed some crimes that either definitely shouldn't, or probably shouldn't, have SoL's.
Sexual crimes are on that list.
Can't believe it took me this long to realize you remind of Chidi from the Good Place
this was because of the library segment, wasn't it?
@@icymoons Just how she speaks and acts in general
Deon Pyle-Williams UR RIGHT
“Put the peeps in the chili pot and add the m&m’s.”
Omg yes
Your commitment to finding answers really is refreshing... thank you for sharing your learning with us and doing it in such a beautiful format. (You are the sort of nerd I can’t wait to grow up to be)
Stellvia Hoenheim calm down, incel
Stellvia Hoenheim yikes did the girl in your chess club reject you again? It’s alright buddy, your right hand will never wrong you
Colonies: talks about Spain but not Portugal. Another sad day for us
Talked about Russia colonies and not about portuguese ones
"I'm lazy" complies giant spreadsheet with the statute of limitation for every country (except greenland)
I'm fairly certain it's the same as Denmark, since it is part of the Danish Realm
@@filemot25 Yeah Greenland ain't a country
I wouldn't call it lazy, I'd call it "choosing to narrow research so you don't die"
Such fun to watch, Subbed!
Seriously it looks like it took ages to make
that reminds me i should start watching you again
One this only has 3 comments and Two All of the comments came in 3 months
Damn. I would be pretty happy to have Cody subbed to me lol. Good job!
Same
Thanks!
Your animation is on POINT.
Also just kudos on your ability to make such slick and well-polished content even when there's some rough and ready elements to it. Like, seriously you got some low res shots and that iffy keying and yet I'm still here like "Damn, did someone mess up and upload this Netflix docu-short to UA-cam?"
oh, yeah REMORSE
One thing I always assumed is that, well, if you committed a crime a long time ago, but then reformed and didn't commit a crime again, after a certain amount of years, it becomes kinda pointless to punish someone that may have already reformed by themselves or just, haven't committed a crime again. Mostly because jail tends to make non criminals into criminal-criminals
idk if I'm in a small minority, but I think it would be cool to see how your process in making these videos from start to finish.
I'd like to see that too- it still amazes me how much effort you guys put into each video :)
Yeah, it would be so cool if they had some sort of vlog or streaming channel for less-effort videos that record their progress/process. I would watch that.
Shut your fuckin mouth please 😒
Kenton Benoit Please be nice.
While personally I doubt I would have enough patience to watch through what they’re suggesting, please at least be nice about it!
The amount of research she has done for a 12 minutes is mind-blowing
It makes sense to me - if someone commits a crime and the statute of limitations runs out, that often means they weren't out committing worse/repeat offenses, or they didn't cause enough of a problem for law enforcement to get involved. At worst, they're constantly on the run from law enforcement, but at least that life is kind of a punishment in and of itself.
2:49 Thank you for being that nerd. You will be doing a great service to some people in the near future
"I always assumed that the law was more reactive to modern climates"
*laughs in homosexuality illegal in 40 of 53 commonwealth countries thanks to the one same penal code*
For reference:
"The Commonwealth of Nations is a voluntary association of 54 sovereign states. Nearly all of them are former British colonies or dependencies of those colonies.
No one government in the Commonwealth exercises power over the others, as is the case in a political union. Rather, the Commonwealth is an international organization in which countries with diverse social, political, and economic backgrounds are regarded as equal in status, and cooperate within a framework of common values and goals, as outlined in the Singapore Declaration issued in 1971.[1] Such common values and goals include the promotion of democracy, human rights, good governance, the rule of law, individual liberty, equality before the law, free trade, multilateralism, and world peace, which are promoted through multilateral projects and meetings, such as the Commonwealth Games, held once every four years."
Turns out, modern climates don't apply as long the people in power don't care.
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 It is called corruption.. and a dysfunctional democracy.
Perhaps the climates of said countries aren't very modern? Unfortunately, over the past decade or so, we've seen many countries across the world move towards a much more dated political climate.
The good days
as a non-native speaker: thank you soooooo much for the subtitles, they help a lot
I love that you called “Djibouti” “Da Booty”
i mean the pronouciation was almost correct
Classic joke move back in model UN days: The delegate from the United States poses a question to the floor: "If Turkey invaded Djibouti would Greece be involved?"
*OMG IT'S TIME. WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO COME BACK ILYSM*
I know this is very late but I think it's worth mentioning. I have a law degree and a specialised masters.
The trend you're seeing of UK colonies are due to the adoption of their common law system. In the UK for example, limitations do exist but they are in case law which you need special access to private databases to see, it's all copyrighted so you won't find it on Google. The same is true for many of the commonwealth.
As for the intentional homicide, you've missed out that many jurisdictions don't have such a category. This matters because they often look at level of responsibility rather than anything else. So driving drunk through a mall for example, may not lead to an intent to kill, but your responsibility is so high that a reasonable person would have seen death as an obvious outcome that could happen and in this way you have constructive intent. These may still mean lower sentences etc but the same crime, so jurisdictions may have a lower statute of limitation, or higher, dependant on what you include in the crime. Again, this is often common law and not included in statutes and codes.
Not a bad analysis by someone who isn't a legal expert ofc, just thought these were pretty important factors.
For an in depth analysis you would also need to start looking at laws on evidence. It's all nice being able to prosecute after 50 years but certain laws on evidence are newer than that, and as such even though they could be prosecuted there's simply no way the original evidence could be used, whether due to storage concerns etc etc.
Edit: the reason I include the last section is that law is often reactive, which is always true in a common law system. If nobody has been prosecuted for a 20 year old crime because of new police codes making all interviews inadmissable that were taken at the time, nobody will create a statute of limitations. If this case may somehow one day happen, it would be very easy to argue that the trend in prosecution would unfairly disadvantage the defendant as there has so far been an implied limitation through the action of the judiciary. Common law is all about interpreting judicial action, with many solid precedents being established that may not even have been the main issue in the case at hand. That's why judges nowadays make so many obiter statements, to disclaim precedents they don't believe they considered enough to create any binding force on the matter.
Wait, by "in case law" you mean like "judicial decisions in general"? I'm not a native English speaker and I have a lot of interest in this matter. So, why should "in case law" be copyrighted? If it's really about precedents, shouldn't it be public domain, since it's produced by the government? Also, this would just gatekeep this information to professionals that really need to access them. It's kinds difficult for me to understand because here in Brasil every single judicial decision is public and anyone can access it.
@@Deletaste it's not public domain because the reporting is done by private companies. The public is super underfunded so I don't even use the public domains for statutes, the parliament website isn't up to date. There was a charity that tried to create a free of charge service but it had trouble (I don't remember if it got shut down) because providing case law for free, with the stated objective of making people more aware of the laws, also provided them for free for all lawyers so there was questions of if it was really a charity. Don't remember how that ended, but it's hilariously corrupt thinking sponsored by the companies making a profit.
Case law refers to all cases technically, so yeah judicial decisions in cases, but it more specifically is used to refer to precedents within cases.
I don't think you represented the meaning of derek parfit's statement very well. At least to my understanding, he's saying that after a long time has passed, it is actually immorral to punish the person.
Even if you could prove exactly with a fair trial that they did commit the crime.
And that is because that person has changed so much that they aren't the same person that committed the crime anymore.
Yeah, that's how I took that quote. I'm not sure I fully agree with it, but I think it makes a lot of sense for minor crimes. For someone who stole a candy bar as a kid, they're obviously a different person now.
which is a hilariously stupid idea. A person who got away with a crime does not develop into a better person. There are no exceptions to this rule. And the victim is not healed in any way just because the perpetrator has changed. It is immoral to let a murder live. There are no exceptions. Their victim did not have the opportunity to grow and change, the murderer must die, and any who would allow that monster to live will burn for all eternity in hell for sheer moral corruption.
@@zilvoxidgod Remember, the point of a sentence is to rehabilitate, not for avenging the victim. If the murderer is now a productive and sensible member of society, then there is nothing left to rehabilitate.
@@zilvoxidgod Further adding onto everything else said above me, why is more murder the response to murder? Murdering the murderer removes any chances at rehabilitation or otherwise punishment because the only punishment is... Death? If you murder someone, you're likely not going to care about being killed beyond the base human instinct of not wanting to die. A better punishment is to ensure they never do it again while also trying to ensure the person actually faced punishment for what they've done, but as we've already established, murderers who receive the death sentence often do not care if they die. A better punishment is long and enduring, trying to rehabilitate them so the murdered's death means something.
@@almerakbar Fines are punishments not rehabilitation.
Prisons however are for many things... Punishments, rehabilitation or keeping harmful people away from others. Many don't agree on which we should prioritise or even which are legitimate reasons.
I really hope you get the chance to submit these for some college project or something... the professor would be like: "is there a letter grade above A?!"
The letter above A would be S rank.
omgggg imagine in the future you get an SS instead of an A+
the jdlt
SS 800pp
@@thatoneguy9582 nice
@@junedanieltamor9071 The jews really feel that
I am so happy I found your channel. First off the art is wonderful. Second, I think the way you talk is a perfect blend of knowledgeable and understandable, and on top of that you make your videos funny and interesting! I used to think I hated learning but that’s not true, I just always associated the word ‘learning’ with high school (very negative connotation if you can believe it.) videos like yours not only make learning fun, but it also inspires me and tons of others to branch out and think in new ways, or explore new thoughts. Great video, Keep doing what you’re doing, and thank you for your dedication! 🥰🌸❤️
Thank you, Brian David Gilbert of Crime, for this fascinating explanation of how to maximise my chances of getting away with murder so long as I have the money to travel to somewhere not colonised by the British
better keep extradition laws in mind, that would be a big oopsie
Oh mahgawd this country's colonized by britain...
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But the birds can’t get get convicted of crimes, much less a fowliny, because they work for the bourgeoisie 😔
Birdgeoisie?
We need a revolution of the crowletariat.
To quote my schoolbook, "The law aids the vigilant, not those who slumber on their rights. Vigilantibus, sed non dormientibus jura subverniunt."
I couldn't sue my doctor for botching my surgery because the limitations came up, even though the symptoms didn't show until a few years after the surgery; the statute was 3 years post surgery. I'm stuck with those side effects forever and I have to pay to have the surgery done again 🙃
The limitation period generally begins when the plaintiff's cause of action accrues, meaning the date upon which the plaintiff is first able to maintain the cause of action in court, or when the plaintiff first becomes aware of a previous injury (for example, occupational lung diseases such as asbestosis).
“I forgot about Greenland”
Denmark literally shows up behind her 2 seconds later
Denmark isn't greenland?
@@olliepope5775 denmark isnt greenland, but greenland is denmark
@@rallis3937 what does this meannnnnnn
@@olliepope5775 greenland isnt an independant country but under danish rule, though it has a lot of autonomy
@@rallis3937 understood, cheers bro 👌
The lawyer in me had a FIELD DAY with you say... @ around the 2:25 minute mark, only got better from there 🤣
your channel is incredibly underrated!
It's the time between videos that keeps it as such. Unfortunately.
Those animations were amaaaaziiiing! The video as a whole was great BUT THOSE ANIMATIONS!!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Remarkably, I got my tablet monitor because of one of your reviews. So that's cool!
9:36 I think only a very few crimes are truly unforgivable.
Exactly, that whole „crime = bad, and thus shouldn't be forgiven“ mindset is so weird. At least she somewhat changed her mind, I wonder what her opinion is on this today
@ Yes, I do too.
Worrying about what people “deserve” has always seemed problematic to me. Just worry about what will make the future better. Often those things that will make the future better align with what we think people deserve.
Revenge is basically how most people think.
Here's the problem with that idea. It gives the power to people who do bad things because as long as they do bad things in such a way that punishing them is not worth it they can keep doing bad things.
In the long run worrying about the future means worrying about what people deserve.
@@DIVAD291 The two have some overlap of course, but they aren't identical. Worrying about what's best for the future *must include* worrying about keeping people from doing bad things again and again. Since that's part of the future.
But this video revolves specifically around people who *didn't* abuse the fact they weren't punished to do more crimes. If they did, it would be irrelevant if their old crimes were ignored, as they'd have plenty of newer ones.
@@DIVAD291 If a person commits murder, it shows they are willing to commit murder, so there's a high risk they will perform another murder. This risk is bad for society, so we lock them up until we deem them low risk. I live in a country that has a focus on rehabilitation.
But if someone commits murder but has lived without doing another crime for 30 years, then they have demonstrated that they can get by legally and don't have any particular urge to commit crime, so it's assumed they have rehabilitated themselves, as they get along with society.
we deserve a better future
Yes a new video!!!
See y'all in 6 months take care.
The call out I deserve.
I was really going to write this
It's weird how we can forget about a murder charge in about 10 years because they are a new person, but people can serve way more than 10 if charged. In some areas, murder is the death penalty. And for the vast majority of people, 10 years still has plenty of life to be lived after.
Normies: store passwords in 3rd party system.
Me, an intellectual: *forgot password? We’ll send you an email to reset it*
look at the spreadsheet, sees Czechoslovakia cry in Slovak.
*cries in Czech dialect
IT DOESNT SHOW COUNTRY BUT WHAT STATE THE COUNTRY GOT INDEPENCE FROM brácho
aw yeah Czechoslovakia, the cooler named one. Czech Republic is still cool
Thank you so much for this Video!
I discovered the statute of limitations watching Itaewon class, episode 3. I am always after the "why"s and could not resist finding out what this meant. I am deeply Grateful for the amount of knowledge people like you collect, summarize and make it fun to read. People call you nerds but I call you a hero.
Thank you so much Ms
If I kill someone and the statute of limitations expires, do I still feel any remorse??
Did you ever feel any? Ha! n00b get gud or GTFO
It says in the description to comment remorse after reading it
The dedication on this woman to do something like this god danm
Oh I've learned about this once. The study I read talked about how if you punish someone too late the effect wont work and the only reason to do it is moral rage.
4:30 “I’m lazy”
Also Sabrina: time to find EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY’s expiration date for murder!!
Simone: *spends 3 days reading penal codes*
Also Simone: “And I’m not doing that because I’m lazy!”
She stopped at 3 days, just reading my hometowns ordinances to see if I can keep bees took me several hours.
It’s all legal ‘til you’re caught
I have no idea how/why UA-cam algorithm decided to put this channel on my suggestions. But I'm soooooo thankful for it !! You spend some serious efforts in your videos, while making research feel as cool as it should :)
Also given the very wide variety of topics you cover in your videos, gives one confidence that they can look up things that they previously didn't have much knowledge about and actually come out with usable information/tools.
Thanks so much for this content :)
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Don't worry, there's never any data on Greenland.
Which means they won't have data on any crimes I commit!
Greenland is Denmark anyways
There was a guy who recently was found out to have escaped from prison 40ish years before the authorities figured it out. The legal process was started but the court eventually realized that this guy may have escaped jailtime but he then went totally straight and never got so much as a speeding ticket for 40 years so they decided to dismiss his case and let him go. Unfortunately, he died like 8 months later iirc.
Live in Da Booty? Girl trust me, I've been trying.
Wow, this video was just really impressive. I've gotten so used to having youtube videos only vaguely sort of touch the subject that is the premise for the video. This, this was not that.
I loved this, it was super cool and interesting! This made me excited about going back to start my next semester at university
I just realized that your voice is so clear that I don’t need captions. I dunno why that makes me giddy, but it does. (Ps: your voice is also super calming.)
Turns out someone's new year's resolution was to upload some videos.
It's because in 20 years you're probably literally an entirely different person
Exactly. I recommend you to watch Vsauce video on Misnomers
100% agree. Now murder should never expire, but yes you’re absolutely a different, person. If you have a soul, you have to live with that crime in your head everyday, sometimes your mind can be much worse then any prison.
@@xphonegaminginc.6310 "If you have a soul, you have to live with that crime in your head everyday, sometimes your mind can be much worse then any prison." That assumes you are an empathetic person. There are people out there who can kill another person and not feel any bad about it.
Literally an entirely different person? Identity theft is not a joke Jim 😛
@@mujiescomedy279 lmao
It's also a special kind of principle witness regulation. When your crimes are forgiven, then maybe that will lead you to reveal some information which helps punish worse crimes, retrieve valuables or prevent further physical harm.
In Germany and Japan there's a saying "Mord verjährt nicht" which means that intentional homicide does never expire, but also implies, that pretty much every other crime does expire. The above reason and the fact that our principle witness regulations are pretty weak explain part of why we should let all other crimes expire.
Omg you're amazing for compiling all of this!
the amount of dedication and time she spent on this video seriously amazes me, congratulations it paid off!
dude this channel is criminally underrated
Is it bad that I said out loud "that is a BEAUTIFULLY organised spreadsheet!"
OMG where was your channel this whole time?? The VOX we all needed
Something else to consider: Laws are made by people and therefore, aren't perfect.
It was illegal to be homosexual in many countries not that long ago, and still is in some countries. Letting the crime 'expire' so to speak, is a way to right some wrongs if someone would be convicted even though the date at which the law is going to be overturned or abolished is already set.
I was literally trying to find statutes of limitation for different crimes a few months ago for a story I was writing you are a god
I almost feel like statute of limitations is also to do with the idea that if the person in question hasn't continued to commit crimes then they must have changed. If they haven't changed, and have continued committing crimes, then there will be more recent evidence.
Your production quality is incredible!
Sabrina: lol I'm so lazy
Also Sabrina: I'ma do 3 days of International legal research and create graphics and programs to organize my data for fun.
Cold Case Files: You're going down Granny!
Love that the netherlands has the rule that if you do something and it becomes illegal after you wont be charged. As well as that if you were ruled innocent by the highest court that they cannot bother you about it anymore (exept they added something about being able to go back to heavy crimes like murder)
"...but then I just stopped going because... School crushed my spirit." I don't think I've ever related to anything so hard 🥲