@@AmberlyPerezGlentz et. al. reported that women had a 20.8% chance of being divorced after a cancer diagnosis by their man as compared to only 2.9% for vice versa
I think it's funny he was suddenly "committed" to his girlfriend who he thought was going to die in 6 months. That's... not commitment at all. 😂😂 He didn't want her, not in any real way, until he knew there was a definite end date. He more likely got swept up in feeling like he HAD to "commit" which means she read him like a book and chose the right trap.
I think a big part of the reason why scams like these manage to succeed for so long is that no one wants to be the one to say "I think you're lying about your cancer"
Exactly. I know myself I wouldn't want to say you're lying about your cancer, and then they actually do have cancer and there's proof. Yeah no thanks. Editing this to say I am not condoning what she did, and if I could tell other people about it I would, believe me, but confronting her I don't think so. Just know because if she really did have cancer, then I'm going to look like the butthole.
They don’t have to say it directly, usually our gut instincts will give us an unsettling feeling about a situation. In those cases, small things and investigations can go a long ways. For instance, she never wanted BF to go inside to her cancer appointments. 🤔 He could have randomly went inside one day to use the restroom or grab a coffee ☕️. Etc etc
this is so true even in less dire instances (see: protonjohn playing a romhack by someone supposedly dying of cancer a few years ago, only to about halfway through say "so it turns out...." but he played it anyways because he didn't want to be the guy who questioned it). just wild it keeps happening.
hi hi, i'm the step-daughter of someone actively faking cancer and possibly other health concerns and let me tell you, everyone knows. they just never say anything and i still haven't figured that part out yet, especially with how vile she is. i don't mostly because i am no contact with her but i tell everyone what she's done and 75% of the time, they already know/ figured it out. our family events are mostly just hours long roast sessions of my step-mother and every year, more people join in. funnily enough, she shares her name with a rather infamous category 5 hurricane so we just compare her to that 😅 (didn't expect this to get more than a like or two, i just wanted to add that i know for a fact she's faking because i was a stand in POA for her when she accused my father of abuse (didn't happen btw) and i personally asked her doctor who confirmed she'd been cancer free for five years at that time. a red flag that caused me to ask was her not knowing what type of cancer she had, she would say leukemia or hodgkin's lymphoma but that she "wasn't sure". while both are similar in a way, it was unusual for her not to know, she always knew exactly what she was being treated for. my father, her usual POA, even confirmed that her doctor's hadn't mentioned cancer to him and that they always "talked about the cancer" when he wasn't in the room. while my situation is unique in that i know without a shadow of a doubt that she's lying, in most situations where someone is faking an illness there is still a possibility that they aren't. save yourself the hassle (and possible ruined relationship) by finding proof, not just blindly claiming they're faking. most of my family only had a hunch she was faking until it was confirmed.
This is just my experiences and pure speculation. I think she waited for the opportunity to get miraculously better. Especially after the gofundme, I think she thought she can take a nice vacation in Europe with that money and come back from her ‘alternative treatment’, cured. People like this need more attention and just take it too far, because the attention feels too good. The end game becomes muddled, but since they are habitual liars, they think they can always fix the plot with new lies. Here it started with the need to keep her bf, then she milked attention from friends, next the internet and soon she was scamming for money. At least she didnt claim to be cured by some woowoo treatment or healthy living trend like Belle Gibson, so she didnt end up harming, even killing, others. Tho, I think she got caught before she could do that.. I have met 4 people like her in my life, two managed to leave a mess for me to clean; now Im wiser, but pretty cynical over new pregnancies or self-harm threats..
There was another faker who got caught last year and she didn't even commit to shaving her head! She said her hair didn't fall out because she took biotin and collagen supplements. 🤦🏻♀️
Right, it's hilarious. They go to the trouble of having cute hats or scarves for the pictures so it looks like they've lost their hair, but they always have perfectly done eyebrows and eyelashes.
My sister has stage 4 ovarian cancer it was a devastating diagnosis. My dad being a rational and planning man was just like “ Ok where do we go from here, what specialist need to be seen and what is the treatment plan?”etc. My sister actually told him “ Why are you gonna waste your money on me, I might not even make it.” My dad told her “ Don’t you ever say something like that again, money is the least of our worries, you stop talking down to yourself and focus on fighting this. A lot of people have survived this and so can you!” Luckily my sister took really well to chemo and radiation so things are looking good. I hope other women with this can overcome it as well! Blessings to you all! ❤
Your dad sounds wonderful, more worried about her than money. I hope your sister continues to do well and is able to beat it! Hope you’re all doing well too!
Oh I’m so happy to hear uplifting stories like this. Your dad is wonderful, and your sister is a fighter. Y’all all sound like lovely, supportive people and I hope y’all receive all the blessings!
I'm so glad your father is loving and your sister is strong. That story really highlights the tragedy that we as a society, in too many places, put someones child in a position to feel their life is not worth the expense of treating illness and for many, that's the reality. Healthcare is a human right .
For anyone new here, Petal has first-hand experience with being diagnosed with cancer. The research that goes into Petal’s videos is always astounding but knowing Petal’s experience makes this video even more powerful when covering videos of those pretending to have this diagnosis.
It really adds a lot to have her covering this. She made a video about being diagnosed but never anything after that. Does Petal still have cancer or is she in remission?
I agree that her experience adds passion of the video - but unfortunately there are errors throughout the video (coming from someone who had ovarian cancer in Australia)
@@exessen1684I wrote a long comment with some of my experiences already. If you can’t find that, petal says treatment is a hysterectomy for ovarian cancer which doesn’t make sense - why would you remove your uterus for a mass on your ovary? The prognosis is also variable on which stage of cancer not just because of the treatment, but because of what actual type of cancer you have. I had a better prognosis at stage II than what was said in the video, and I’m assuming she took an average survival rate across each stage without taking into consideration what actual type (but she didn’t say that). What else would you like to know?
Its downright stupid and ignorant. And very disgusting. I'm sure there are the smarter ones that actually can get away with this bs. I'm glad these people are stupid enough to get caught.
@@109367Although in this case we know it to be false there are only a select few cancers that DO have a Stage 5 but most are in children. There’s also a Stage 0 cancer as well. I’m not trying to be mean but just putting the info out there because some just don’t know.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if she got pregnant on purpose just to try to get a lighter sentence. The level of manipulation you have to be willing to engage in to pull something like this off makes me question everything that person does and says.
I wouldn't believe a damn thing. Just like people that come on here and say they have cancer or went through cancer. I don't believe most of the crap people comment.
@@JinxMarie1985lol this is me when I’m watching videos about DID fakers. 90% of the comments are from those who claim to “really” have the disorder and a good half of them are still minors
A lot of people are quick to assume Brad was involved, but it doesn't make sense that he would take out two loans for her treatment if he knew that she was lying.
@@MusicalMachineEtcmaybe she faked her own prescription based on other peoples cancer prescriptions online? It was mentioned that she forged other documents (like being a patient of a doctor), it wouldn’t be too crazy. And he took her word for it, because - well - he loved her. I could be wrong, I don’t know this case well; just offering another perspective. Enjoy your day 🫶🏼
@@rulie It doesn't make any sense, most necessary medicine is $6.00 for a months worth here. Even if she was on 10 different medicines here it would still only be $60 a month. I don't know how he couldn't have known, and chemotherapy is free in public hospitals. I'm so confused.
This seriously irritates me. My beautiful 27yr old daughter charley passed away from breast cancer on 11/23/19...an we tried hard to raise money to send her to MD Anderson in Texas for hopefully better treatment but her cancer was so aggressive that we ran out of time. Wonderful trusting people donate to these people an these scammers are taking from the ones that truly need it. Prison for a long time is what they should all get. I watched my beautiful daughter slowly die an just wither away in 3mos time. I was her fulltime caregiver. It was gut wrenching to say the very least. To pretend to have this horrible disease is worse than the cancer to me. These scamners are cancer to me. Thanks for covering this..
My dad was my fulltime caregiver when I was diagnosed at 24. I am sorry for your loss. I want to tell you that your sweet daughter, although she passed, undoubtedly loved every moment with you.
yeah knowing people lie about cancer when my mom passed from ovarian cancer in 2020 its insane. like it makes me soo upset because people actually die from cancer nd here they are faking it for attention
despite how awful lucy's lie was, i do find it kind of sweet how everyone rallied around her to provide as much support as they could. i wish that support could have gone to someone who needed it, because it's wonderful how a community can come together to do good.
Unfortunately, we are in a time where people will believe just about anything they read on the Internet. I have seen a lot of people rally around someone who really does need help, though, so luckily, it does exist.
I just don’t understand how ppl faking terminal cancer, saying they have 6 months to live, don’t think about what they’re gonna do when in 6 months they just... don’t die???
My Grammy died from cancer so did my uncle. He fought for 10 years and she fought for 5. We had to scrape money just to help them yet people like this get thousands. It's absolutely ridiculous. I had a cancer scare recently because I have a cyst in ovary that is growing, Me and my mom had to pay over a thousand out of pocket just to make sure I wasn't severely sick. Cancer is not some joke it's devastating and a burden nobody should have to face.
My husband has stage 4 esophagus cancer. We tried everywhere except asking community for help and now in debt the rest of our remaining years. Retirement depleted no government assistance. This really is upsetting to people who really need help and don’t receive it. ❤❤
I’ve been really sick with the flu and it’s been unbearable for me, I can’t even imagine the agony that people with cancer with cancer go through. It’s so sick that someone would want to fake such a horrific disease.
Petal Palmers hair is looking good. It's growing so fast and beautiful. I'm in the process of growing mine out for the second time, but I'm afraid that my curls won't be coming back 😢. It's growing straight, and though I'm so grateful to be cancer free and that my hair is even growing, I must admit that I'm a lil sad that my hair shows no sign of curls. I hope it's just a matter of time before it curls up. Now this case is crazy. Faking cancer had to be one of the most disgusting and insensitive scams out there. I hope this woman repents and asksGod for forgiveness.
I'm so sorry that your hair isn't growing back the way you were expecting, I hope you get your curls back soon friend! So happy you beat cancer and I hope it stays gone!
It might yet! I've had several family members and friends lose their hair to chemo. It changes the DNA so it may come back in completely different, but after the chemo is eliminated from your cells it should go back to your normal. ❤ I know a researcher who studies cancer and explained this to one of my family members who was struggling with cancer at that time. I hope you live a long healthy curly haired life. 💓
@faithsmit6839 😊 Thank you, Faith, for your commitment and encouragement. I appreciate it. The first time I went through chemo, I waited until my hair was about 2.5 inches, and I had braids put in, and that helped my hair grow fast. I'm going to try that again because I think it'll help my curls form finger crossed 🤞 lol Thank you, and I wish you and your family all the best 💛
seing somebody faking cancer for whatever reasons is truly tasteless. Both my parents died from cancer in the last six months and I never wish that for anybody. Lying about something serious like that is not okay.
See, giant red flag for any Australian should be "I can't pay for my chemo", particularly when you are going to a public hospital. Medicare means we don't pay. We pay our taxes and we get healthcare. My mum has just gone through all of this and has paid about $100 all up out of pocket. Yes, if you have private health you can go through private and it will cost more but if you are worried about money - public system baby! (Yes not being able to work means losing income, but the actual treatment costs in Australia can be literally zero.) And let's not go into "losing" your hair but it's clearly just shaved and your brows, eyelashes and hair anywhere else doesn't fall out... uh huh...
@Vladi0310 bit to unpack there. Not least that it literally doesn't matter in this case because she didn't have any cancer at all. I was pointing out that if someone is asking for money here in Aus, particularly if they are claiming to get treatment in a public hospital - that's a big old red flag for a scam. I didn't actually make any claim about which is "best" - and this would obviously vary greatly depending on location, doctors in each system in that location, the condition you have, the resources available at the hospital etc etc. I could counter and point out my totally free orthopaedic surgery with a leading orthopaedic professor through a public hospital, while a cousin went private for almost the same break and got an older surgery technique that meant she had to be wheelchair bound for 12 weeks whilst I was doing hydrotherapy and physio within 6. Individual cases are going to vary greatly even within the system you go through. I am glad you found a doctor/hospital that was able to help you!
I immediately googled it and found out within 2 seconds that Australia has free healthcare. I honestly don’t know how fellow Australians fell for this (I can understand some foreigners who don’t know about the free healthcare). It also makes me have a hard time believing Brad didn’t know to some extent.
My grandma had ovarian cancer and ironically had to stop her plans of leaving her alcoholic husband due to her diagnosis. She was a waitress, had no insurance and had to have experimental treatment that involved hours of small radiation balls being inserted inside of her. When they pulled them out, she said she felt it was like all her insides came out with them. She continued working and raised her kids with no help from her husband. Those "treatments" killed the cancer...and destroted her insides. She had to put what looked like little wax candles inside her vagina to keep it from scarring shut. It didnt work well. She barely had anything left down there and suffered with pain the rest of her life. But she was lucky, unlike the great majority of other women who felt they had no choice but to offer themselves to be experimented on alongside her, did not survive. Anyone who has suffered any type of cancer treatment is unbelievably strong. It sucks to see so many people lying about it.
I have a friend who is “living while dying” from Stage IV ovarian cancer… it is the saddest decline to watch, while simultaneously seeing the hope that comes with new therapies and treatments. I’m Australian and hadn’t heard of this case so thank you for covering it. It’s so disgusting that these people get away with this shit for so long. Love your channel Petal, and hope you’re doing well :)
@@LaurindaBellinger thank you! She’s in about year 4 of living with this horrible disease. She has four daughters that I just feel for the most.. but she’s thriving as much as she can and staying alive for them!!
Before I was diagnosed I was told I'm lazy and a liar. I have medical proof and that shut them up about that. But during treatment it wasn't easy because still expected to do most things and get yelled at. But whenever I post to my friends I post evidence so someone can't come and say I'm lying. I know my friends would believe me because my coworkers got cancer too. And some have passed away. But my family is a different story. But can't agrue with truth. 😁
Also those scams "I changed from medications to homeopathic and look... I am cured" 🙄. And then people who actually have cancer read about this and quit their treatment. It is not super common but it happens.
and when you apply for a loan you need to indicate what it’s for as part of the application. medical costs isn’t even an option, that I can recall? that’s the one bit that’s giving me pause about Brad, because he needed to apply for that loan. that doesn’t necessarily mean he chatted with the bank, but it raises a bit of uncertainty for me.
maybe just another layer to this scam, maybe he was offering to buy her better private care? In the UK you can have free medical care or pay for private if you can afford it for better service and less waiting lists
@@bees9342crying in american rn, I have debt collectors after me because I went to the hospital last year (my liver was failing haha oopsie) I love that for y'all so much tho. Nobody should have to go into debt to stay alive.
@@lilmorsecody that’s true, but it seems weird if you are taking out a loan to not be involved in researching the places offering treatment options and the costs. That’s going to be different for everyone, though, and a thing seeming odd doesn’t necessarily mean anything other than “yeah, that’s odd.” (But I still don’t like it 🧐)
@@lilmorsecody is private even better? When I went private for an operation I was treated horribly, as badly as public healthcare. I've heard many other people who tried private say the same thing.
She 100000% got pregnant on purpose to USE that baby as a means to keep outta jail. I highly doubt she has MBP but rather is just a manipulative person who uses and abused people for her own means
my uncle died from cancer, between being diagnosed and his passing it was a few days short of 4 weeks - it was devastating how quickly it all happened. one day we had heard he’d been going under to have the tumors in his spine and lungs removed and the next he was on an artificial coma because doctors found out there was liquid in his lungs. this is the third time someone close to me and my family has passed from cancer. just the thought of someone faking such a cruel, life altering disease to trap their s/o is sickening but to also scam $72k out of people who just wanted to help? it feels like such a cartoonishly evil thing, it almost doesn’t even feel real:
Here’s my question, where are Lucy’s parents in this whole situation? I need to know what her childhood was like, and I want to know her parents’ reaction to this.
I feel like that would be very interesting and probably eye opening. We always discuss the childhoods of killers, to try and understand how they became so awful. We discuss the childhoods of cult leaders to try and explain why they ended up that way. But large scale manipulators like this, like people who are arrested for massive collar crimes, like the tinder swindler, etc. never have their childhoods discussed, despite also being people who dedicate their life to being horrible. Obviously murder is worse than all the other stuff, but that doesn’t mean the people who do all that other stuff aren’t evil or that we shouldn’t try and understand them to catch them sooner
It 's unfortunate. Because of things like this, real people with real illness and really in need of help will get overlooked in fear of it being another scam. Because of things like this, society will be afraid of being kind and compassionate.
My ex-husband was dating a drama queen who had cancer… she was nuts and went to the ER on the weekly for “pain control”. My teen daughter would go with her and secretly video how her behavior would change depending who was in the room. One day she told my ex her brain tumor was inoperable and she didn’t have much time left. Because she had a boatload of money and property (so she claimed, but she lived in a hotel), I jokingly told my ex that he better marry her quickly! He did. And it’s been seven years. She’s still alive and he is miserable.
My ex-friend was similar, she only complained that her back is very painful. But then once when I was driving her to hospital I didn't notice pump on the road. Car pumped quite a bit. I was horrified and kept asking if she is ok. She didn't understand why I was asking. I realized she was lying. There were signs already before that at that moment I knew for certain. I totally cut all connections when she took meds, alcohol and stabbed her ex... Then I decided "Time to flee" 🏃♀️
Sounds similar the Scamanda case. Have you heard of her? You might want to listen to the podcast if you havnt already. The podcast is called Scamanda. In fact, ABC is airing a docuseries about the case in October.
This story is crazy! I can't imagine someone taking advantage of the world's kindness. Such a shame. People like this cause real stories not to be shared 😡
I’m gonna be real, I do have a very hard time believing Brad wasn’t in on it to some extent. It took me 2 seconds of googling to find out that Australia has free healthcare, including for cancer patients. Surely people who have lived there their entire lives would know this?
I just googled it and it appears that out of pocket expenses can occur and vary depending on the type and severity of the cancer. Its not unheard of, so there is a chance her boyfriend and friend might not have known. Sucks if they did, though. This is awful
Given the fact that she has proven to be extremely manipulative and cunning, I would cut him some slack. Maybe he didn’t have many encounters with the Australian healthcare system, at least not to this extent. If this woman was able to manipulate and lie to hundreds, is it really that out of the realm of possibility to lie to him as well? And she cemented herself in his life despite him stating that he isn’t looking for something in the long run, so the manipulation started early one. Spending more time with her and caring for her meant that he was trapped and exposed to her lies more than others. I believe that he is a victim of her emotional abuse(he wouldn’t have taken thousands of dollars in loans if his end goal was making money, money that was proven to be spent by his girlfriend). He also wouldn’t have quit his job in the army(where your record matters so so much). I believe that her attempt at painting Brad as the big bad guy, the brains of this operation and an accomplice is yet another lie to cover her ass(she proved countless times just how much of a pathological liar she is) So unless further evidence emerges, I won’t punch down on an already broken man
As someone who lives in a country with what can be seen as free healthcare, usually the extent of coverage of it stops at some point. At times, not all treatment methods may be accessible freely, and in those instances people will reach out to private healthcare. To access those, he probably started taking out the loans because he wanted his loved one to get better access to those treatments. I can believe he wasn't in on it for financial gain
as someone whose mother almost died of cancer in 2020, stuff like this ENRAGES me so bad. not only the scam aspect but also the fact that she put her boyfriend and both their families through hell. my mom has been cancer free for 3 years and our entire family still suffers intensely from all this, we are all in therapy and it has changed our lives forever. i truly wish lucy the worst.
That is true. I know someone whose husband of 25 years left the day of diagnosis and put her through a brutal divorce. My husband of 21 years ( 22 now) had been right by my side.
I just was diagnosed with stage 1 breast cancer a week ago. I'm 28. My family is strug struggling with that news. I can't imagine inflicting that pain intentionally on your loved ones.
Damn. I'm so sorry you're going through that. I was diagnosed with stage 1 ductal carcinoma in October at age 40 and keep getting told I'm young to be going through it. It's terrifying at first, but hopefully once they have a clear plan of treatment for you, it will be easier to focus on the future. ❤
This video hit so hard. I just lost my mom to ovarian cancer. The fact that someone could lie about having such a horrible disease is completely beyond me. I would not wish that suffering and heartbreak on my worst enemy
Cancer runs through my mom's family. She has lost almost every single family member to one form or another of cancer. My cousin was 19 when she was diagnosed with Hodgkin's. So when I see something like this it makes me mad. There is no excuse for this
Petal, I can’t get past how people do this. Having dealt with Cancer myself as I know you have it’s absolutely cruel to do this. Thank you Petal for telling this story. ❤
My wife and I were referred to your by UA-cam, because we watch chubbyemu who covers medical accidental stories. After watching this and your Edgewater video, we’ve become quick fans and have plans to binge watch your channel. Your channel is just as awesome, unique telling, being very informative and knowledgeable and straightforward. We bought popcorn and beverages, now our journey through your videos begin. Also, thank you for a captivating channel.
My brother was diagnosed at 28 with AML in december and it makes me even more sick and disgusted at people who fake cancers for selfish gain. It takes a real messed up person to do something like that
I don’t know what it’s like having cancer, but my girlfriend died of cervical cancer 2 years ago. I can’t imagine being in Brad’s position… what would I do or say? Anyway, I wish you the best in your fight/future health!
I find it hard to believe her bf wasn't involved tbh. Those were some crazy involved complicated lies to keep from someone you live with. But I can also see how she did it to trap him.
My wife had U.S. Medicare and a free Medicare supplemental health insurance her medical bills were over $1 million, every cent was paid for by her insurance.
@@pm2886 Socialized medicine has huge drawbacks, look what is going on in the UK, long wait times to see specialists, mri’s and CT scans, and surgery. And the bigger the country the tougher it is to have Gov. run healthcare, because it is so huge and overburdened by bureaucratic BS, not to mention a huge illegal immigrant population that expects free healthcare, and they get it, while Americans must pay.
@@A-FrameWedge Not all systems are the same as the UK's. Also, their immigration laxity is costing them hugely. Here, we have very tight immigration policies, and only citizens can access free healthcare. No recent immigrants can get free healthcare - much less illegal ones. As for wait times - they don't exist. If your life depends upon treatment, you'll get it immediately. Always.
I've been rushed to hospital in May by ambulance due to sudden horrendous pain. I spent 5 weeks in there, big growth on my left ovary was discovered and tumour markers were high in my blood test. I had a hysterectomy, had to have fluid removed around my lungs and had to spent ages waiting for histology results. The pain, the uncertainty, the loneliness... results finally came back as Endometrial cancer but im optimistic that they caught it early. How anyone can lie about this is beyond me. I wouldnt wish it on anyone.
When I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer when I couldn't breathe,11.5L of ascites fluid removed over a few days. I also had fluid between the membranes of my left lung. Even with local anaesthetic that removal was agony when they were inserting the needle
I have my own case of this☠️ my ex had a bitter baby momma and she couldnt handle him moving on so she came down to Denver to get “tests”. Girl had stage 4 LUNG cancer. I know that smoking and genetics play a big part, she was a non smoker with no history though. It completely blew my mind how everyone was so blind. I get not everyone shaves their hair, but, she said she was getting chemo AND radiation and if you know; it will most likely cause hair loss. This lasted only three months and i left. After that, no mention of cancer. What a coincidence. SMH . The lengths people will go instead of being genuine and getting the help they so desperately need. Another girl in my high school did the same to her boyfriend but she went the full 9 yards. One thing ive taken away from my view is that if someone doesn’t love you, you need to keep it moving. Its so unnecessary and i feel like it calls bad juju in your life. Let me add she went on to have a successful pregnancy literally six months later. Im not saying its not possible; but highly unlikely given such a diagnosis. Now that i am in medical school it makes even more sense 🤦🏻♀️
It’s so heart warming when communities come together to uplift and support others. But it’s also so damn heartbreaking when those same kind hearted people find out that they’ve been deceived. I always worry that when people fake illnesses like this, they’ll not believe someone who does actually have an illness or they’ll be hesitant to really care.
And she not only owns her business once, but twice!?! Even after all that??? Who would pay for her services? How is a convicted criminal able to pull that off, unless committing more fraud?
I love your videos, listening to your voice is so soothing and the respect and research you put into every video makes you stand out so much. I’m so glad to see your channel take off as much as it did! You really deserve it
@@chubbydinosaur9148 So true, there are true crime podcasters I can barely watch, but she makes me feel "comforted enough" to listen to them and feel more educated 🙏🏻
stuff like this is why I choose not to help strangers, i know there are people out there who really need the help, but i'm not risking it, especially with me being low income, i can't afford to loose money to a scammer
I really respect this mindset, but my mindset is a little different. I have some disposable income that I set aside to donate each month - obviously if you dont have the extra money I would not advocate donating to anyone, especially given the risk of scams. But at least for me I do still choose to donate to gofundmes and the like as I believe, even in the vast minority of cases where I may be donating to a scam, the likelihood that the person “scamming” to get money is also in need is pretty high imo. Most people don’t scam like this woman, most scam because they themselves are in a desperate position and are willing to compromise moral boundaries to get money, the same way some people steal food or etc. I feel okay donating to someones medical fund as, even if this is not someone w a medical issue who is effectively scamming me, they are likely still in need, and need my disposable income more than I do
@@sabeena555scamming people is significantly less understandable than stealing food. Don't be so naive, if someone is willing to lie to you to take your money they don't see you as anything more than a transaction. If they are so in need it's most likely because they've pushed everyone who loves them away by being awful to people, hence why they are okay with scamming people now.
I'm not even low income, I do pretty well, but I won't help people either unless I know them well. 😬 I used to be homeless from the middle of senior year high school until I was almost 20. I've seen some stuff. 👀 Even after that I've seen some crazy stuff, we had a girl fake cancer at one of my old jobs because she was lazy and didn't want to do any work. So she came up with the bright idea to have "cancer" so she could always be "too nauseous" and "too dizzy" to do anything and could call out at-will. Eventually HR was tired of waiting for her to bring in documentation for FMLA so they fired her and her sister discovered her lie by following her "to treatment" one day. Small-ish town, we all loosely knew each other outside of work.
I cannot even fathom how the REAL victims of cancer and the heroes like you Petal that beat cancer, how you feel about these sick sickening just awful people that try and get away with this!!! It makes me extremely upset and outright ANGRY that these people do it and also the ones that get away with it!!! Makes me sick.
I cant believe how you could fake this and take the money.. My mom was recently diagnosed with breast cancer and she starts chemotherapy Friday. The idea of getting donated over 50K to help with medical costs is insane!! And she accepted all of it she didnt stop it that's just so terrible and sick I cant even imagine the number 50k and what that could do for my mom. Cancer is so scary and such a life shaker and faking it is so evil
Petal is cranking these videos out and I am living for it! I am SO glad you cover medical cases. I'm a medical coder and find it all very fascinating. Petal, you're easily one of my top UA-camrs and am so glad I came across your channel many months ago. ♥️
Hi Petal, i just wanted to say that i love how you present your content. It feels like you're engaging us in conversation rather than merely presenting information. You're clearly intelligent and the stories you choose to cover are unique. Thanks for the hard work you put into your videos ❤️ A side note: I didn't know what the stages of cancer were specifically. It's awesome that you explain these things.
I've known so many people who died from cancer. Its a scary thing to watch. Its painful... They're in so much pain. Its heart wrenching. We need a cure. 😞
My mom died of pancreatic cancer, she couldn’t tolerate chemo & her doctor gave her less than 6 months to live. She went on hospice, turned basically skeletal, and died 3 months after diagnosis. I moved from my home in Houston back to Dallas to spend every single day caring for her, it was devastating. I also lost my dad from metastatic cancer that spread to his brain. I can’t imagine someone doing this when it’s absolutely heartbreaking. We never raised money, we never had help. It’s baffling to me how they justify it in their mind.
My mom was diagnosed with ovarian cancer Dec of 2014 and then she died on September 10th 2015 so yeah 🤷♀️ I was 15 and I thought I had healed from it honestly but for some reason I started cry while watching this, because it was making me remember/think about what it was actually like with my mom while she was going through cancer. Sorry my grammar is crap so excuse that.
Great video, I completely agree with your conclusion too. Clearly a person having the capability to do such a thing is indicative of underlying mental issues, and a certain level of empathy and understanding must be employed. but it's possible to give empathy without ignoring accountability
as someone who’s lost my grandma to stage 4 ovarian cancer and breast cancer this makes me sick like how could you be so selfish to do that! do they not understand how under reached this type of cancer is and how it affects women physically emotionally and mentally….this is saddling
I swear, Maddy Russo stole the book on " how to scam and lie about cancer from other scammers". This is sad😢. While I don't have cancer, I've lost MANY relatives to it. It's nothing to lie about. I hate people still continuing to do this bs. Ty for your wonderful coverage Petal ❤
The fact that statistics show that men are more likely to leave their partner after a cancer diagnosis and she was with someone who would actually stay and took advantage of it, adds just such another level of despicableness to this.
i got diagnosed with a BRCA mutation and had my first prophylactic surgery that same summer and have spent the last 5 years doing between 2 and 5 screenings a year depending on if i have concerning symptoms. i felt completely alone until meeting people my age in support groups. If i'd found out that one of them had been scamming, I would have been heartbroken, because it was already so rare to find someone who had been there. ovarian cancer is really, really rare (1-3% general population, though of course people like me have higher risk-30-50%) and so my heart hurts for anyone in her support groups, especially for young people in the group, who would have a hard time finding anybody who understood that particular experience.
Small quibble. Stage 0 isn't no cancer, it's what is also referred to as cancer in-situ, meaning it's self contained and hasn't spread into nearby tissue. There ARE certain types of cancers that are classified as stage 5, but you could count those on one hand and ovarian cancer isn't one of them. Best guess, Lucy got confused about the "five stages of cancer" and didn't realize they go from 0-4, not 1-5. Which is such a rookie mistake it's like she didn't even try at all. A friend of mine had stage 4 ovarian cancer and I can't for the life of me understand why someone would try to fake it. It's one of the most brutal diagnoses a person can get. Even people who survive past the five year mark don't often live a normal lifespan. Less than ten percent are expected to survive as long as ten years. Ovarian cancer almost always comes back; it's just a matter of when, and the medical upkeep even after being declared no evidence of disease is INTENSE, you basically live at the doctor's. Trying to keep this con going long-term would've been nearly impossible.
she really does suck at this though lol if she just wanted to trap her bf she REALLY shouldnt have been posting about this on media and asking for donations. she made it so much easier to get caught
I had melanoma in situ /stage 0. It was successfully removed with clean margins but it still is a possibility that it will come back some day. My mom died of complications from treatment of stage 1 pancreatic cancer in October 2022. I don't understand why anyone would fake cancer.
I'd never heard of this case before (I'm Australian) and as someone who has what is often referred to as an invisible illness to which people at times have not been nice to me (I have severe ME/CFS), hearing about someone faking an illness to this degree really upsets me. How did she fake this to this degree? even with the weight loss etc. A couple of times online I've seen "genuine" people with stage 4 cancer being called fake, no doubt people like this one impacts many. She should have got MANY MANY years in jail and someone who can do this, just should not even be raising a child
I'm currently in treatment for stage 1 ductal carcinoma. Lumpectomy in December, had 12 taxol infusions, getting herceptin every 3 weeks, and just had my 6th out of 19 radiation treatments. I'm so blessed that my treatments have been fairly easy so I don't have to miss much work, and I have excellent health insurance. I do NOT look like a cancer patient, and if I had to start asking for money, I'd probably get accused of scamming.
How did she trick the boyfriend? it's easy to trick people online -- they don't see you 23 hours of the day. But she lived with him and he took care of her. Like how did she fake vomiting? And was laying on the bathroom floor really that fun for her? And what medicine did she give him to put in the nebulizer? I dont see how the boyfriend couldn't have known.
There are anti cancer drugs that can stop you vomiting and reduce the side effects of the cancer. So my guess is she pretended to take anti cancer meds and he didn’t question it
You have done a beautiful job with this video. I am a cancer warrior x 2; it hurts me to the core that someone would involve people in such a terrifying and complex ordeal.
I’m still watching it, but what a sweet and supportive boyfriend Brad was. I’m so sorry he got taken advantage of. I hope he’s met a partner with as big a heart as he has!
Not for ovarian cancer. The only one I know of that has a stage 5 is Nephroblastoma/Wilms tumor and that’s a cancer of the kidneys that’s usually only diagnosed in children.
Random comment with regards to the PICC line since I gather from the videos of yours I’ve seen you’re as into geeky medical details as I am. I’ve been living with various forms of central lines for the last 15 years and can say both that I see and regularly have people- including my own care providers and with my own medical record- misname and mislabel lines all the dang time. Wouldn’t even be surprised or make anything of the misspelling either. BUT- what I thought you’d find even more interesting is that I have very literally had a PICC line placed centrally. Like my usual line for my particular need (TPN and IV hydration and meds- so it’s in constant use and hence no port as one would generally expect a cancer patient to receive) is a hickman and it’s tunneled in my chest wall, enters at the base of my neck into my internal jugular and obviously the end of the line rests in my SVC or the upper part of my heart. I had a PICC line placed in the same exact way. It was the worst line I ever had since while it was tunneled, it doesn’t have a cuff like a hickman or broviac style line does. That also means that rather like with a PICC in one’s arm, it doesn’t heal in place and can slide in and out and easily become dislodged. There’s a lot of geeky in depth debate over the benefits of various types of lines over others but it is pretty nonsensical to place a PICC that way. Mine was done a good 14 years or so ago and the only reason I can think of for why it was given to me is simply that there was nothing else in stock. Back in that time though- another maaaaybe reason to have done it would be if I needed it for specific medical procedures like CT that uses a power injector. Hickman and similar are generally made of silicone and not safe for use with a power injector. Most PICC lines, as was the case with the one I had in my chest/ IJ, are made of polyurethane and can be used with the power injector. About 10-12 years ago the manufacturer of hickman and broviac lines did come out with a power/ polyurethane hickman. It looks almost identical to the brands purple power PICC. But has a cuff for the sake of tunneling and longer term use. So now there is no reason whatsoever (unless the whole “this is what we have in stock”) to place a PICC centrally. But basically saying- it can be done and I’ve had one. Anyway- loads of geekery there. I see from the photo you shared she’s using a nontransparent dressing. I’m going to go with what I assume without watching past the PICC line part of the video- that she likely never had a line of any kind to begin with. I’ve noticed fakers always use nontransparent dressings. Which makes sense. Gotta cover up what isn’t there- either a line exiting the skin or a port needle in place. Not to make light of the fact some folks have allergies and all but transparent dressing is heavily preferred for any sort of line so one can monitor for infection and nontransparent dressings are supposed to be changed much more often (accepted guideline is 3 days for nontransparent while a week/7 days is the standard with transparent ones such as tegaderm and the like). Mostly I doubt she ever had a line if it’s all fake since it’s not easy to get one without having some kind of legitimate need. And then theres the issue of how ports can be deaccessed for showers or even for months at a time while any other form of central line or picc is going to require daily maintenance however long it's in place. It's late and I'm tired so apologies if more details than necessary. But given the focus you gave it, I hope you found this useful.
I don't really want to uh... Call her out? 😅 But for everyone below: A central line goes into the carotids and only the carotids. [Vampire joke here]. If you look at the image provided, there's one named the subclavicular. That, despite it's literally placement below the collarbone, is a peripheral nerve because it goes to the arm. Hence: PICC line goes here. One more reason... Here... Breast cancer patients can never get blood work from the affected side because there's usually a lymph node or two because cancer lymph
I dont understand how an Australian forgot about medicare? Brad knew more than he let on. And if not why didnt he urge her to go public, public goes on acuity and she would have been high acuity and seen fast. No ones telling the truuuuuuutttthhhhhhh
Maybe he has health care through the military so he wasn’t familiar with medicare being available to the public? But also why wouldn’t he have researched to help her out? So definitely fishy, he probably caught on eventually but played along with her for the $$$ Pair of losers if thats the case
The Belle Gibson story is wild, because she has gone on to attempt several cons after she was outed for faking cancer, including pretending to be part of a local Oromo community. As for Lucy, pretending to more or less have amnesia after she got caught? Sod off with that!
It's so sad such good people were taken advantage of, put into debt, have their careers stalled, and their hearts shattered. On one hand, it's heartwarming to see the goodness and compassion they radiated during the story but I can't imagine the pain and anger they must feel. I hope they'll never change.
I have ovarian cancer, stage four because it spread. But, the doctors have a very positive outlook. 2-3 years of chemo. Another surgery. Maybe radiation. But, I should be alright. My body is doing well with the chemo for the most part. I did basically tell the doctor to take whatever they could out. My ovaries almost crushed my kidneys because I was a dumbass who knew I wasn't well but didn't want to admit it might be something serious. I had lost a lot of weight before I went in to actually get checked out. Had to have nephrostomy tubes in both kidneys for 3 months. Was not fun. I really don't get why people would want to fake something so serious. It boggles the mind.
I don't know why she thought faking cancer would trap her boyfriend when studies show a lot of men leave their terminally ill partners lol
I had no idea of this 🤯
@@AmberlyPerezGlentz et. al. reported that women had a 20.8% chance of being divorced after a cancer diagnosis by their man as compared to only 2.9% for vice versa
Not too sure about this however its not something to laugh at.
I think it's funny he was suddenly "committed" to his girlfriend who he thought was going to die in 6 months. That's... not commitment at all. 😂😂 He didn't want her, not in any real way, until he knew there was a definite end date. He more likely got swept up in feeling like he HAD to "commit" which means she read him like a book and chose the right trap.
She clearly could tell that that man was actually compassionate and she used that to her advantage to manipulate him
I think a big part of the reason why scams like these manage to succeed for so long is that no one wants to be the one to say "I think you're lying about your cancer"
Exactly. I know myself I wouldn't want to say you're lying about your cancer, and then they actually do have cancer and there's proof. Yeah no thanks.
Editing this to say I am not condoning what she did, and if I could tell other people about it I would, believe me, but confronting her I don't think so. Just know because if she really did have cancer, then I'm going to look like the butthole.
They don’t have to say it directly, usually our gut instincts will give us an unsettling feeling about a situation.
In those cases, small things and investigations can go a long ways.
For instance, she never wanted BF to go inside to her cancer appointments. 🤔
He could have randomly went inside one day to use the restroom or grab a coffee ☕️.
Etc etc
this is so true even in less dire instances (see: protonjohn playing a romhack by someone supposedly dying of cancer a few years ago, only to about halfway through say "so it turns out...." but he played it anyways because he didn't want to be the guy who questioned it). just wild it keeps happening.
hi hi, i'm the step-daughter of someone actively faking cancer and possibly other health concerns and let me tell you, everyone knows. they just never say anything and i still haven't figured that part out yet, especially with how vile she is.
i don't mostly because i am no contact with her but i tell everyone what she's done and 75% of the time, they already know/ figured it out. our family events are mostly just hours long roast sessions of my step-mother and every year, more people join in. funnily enough, she shares her name with a rather infamous category 5 hurricane so we just compare her to that 😅
(didn't expect this to get more than a like or two, i just wanted to add that i know for a fact she's faking because i was a stand in POA for her when she accused my father of abuse (didn't happen btw) and i personally asked her doctor who confirmed she'd been cancer free for five years at that time. a red flag that caused me to ask was her not knowing what type of cancer she had, she would say leukemia or hodgkin's lymphoma but that she "wasn't sure". while both are similar in a way, it was unusual for her not to know, she always knew exactly what she was being treated for. my father, her usual POA, even confirmed that her doctor's hadn't mentioned cancer to him and that they always "talked about the cancer" when he wasn't in the room. while my situation is unique in that i know without a shadow of a doubt that she's lying, in most situations where someone is faking an illness there is still a possibility that they aren't. save yourself the hassle (and possible ruined relationship) by finding proof, not just blindly claiming they're faking. most of my family only had a hunch she was faking until it was confirmed.
It's the privilege of the protected status. Nobody wants to commit social faux pas by criticizing someone they're socially obligated to support.
I can never understand why these liars pick lies that have an end date. What was she going to do if she hadn’t been caught?
This is just my experiences and pure speculation. I think she waited for the opportunity to get miraculously better. Especially after the gofundme, I think she thought she can take a nice vacation in Europe with that money and come back from her ‘alternative treatment’, cured. People like this need more attention and just take it too far, because the attention feels too good. The end game becomes muddled, but since they are habitual liars, they think they can always fix the plot with new lies. Here it started with the need to keep her bf, then she milked attention from friends, next the internet and soon she was scamming for money. At least she didnt claim to be cured by some woowoo treatment or healthy living trend like Belle Gibson, so she didnt end up harming, even killing, others. Tho, I think she got caught before she could do that.. I have met 4 people like her in my life, two managed to leave a mess for me to clean; now Im wiser, but pretty cynical over new pregnancies or self-harm threats..
I suppose she would have claimed one of her treatments worked a miracle.
It was going to be a recovery by miracle :))))
Make a miraculous recovery.
@@tanyabrown9839 And probably get her followers to use it too.
it's funny all these people who fake cancer can never commit to shaving their eyebrows as well lol
There was another faker who got caught last year and she didn't even commit to shaving her head! She said her hair didn't fall out because she took biotin and collagen supplements. 🤦🏻♀️
Or the lashes 😭
Right, it's hilarious. They go to the trouble of having cute hats or scarves for the pictures so it looks like they've lost their hair, but they always have perfectly done eyebrows and eyelashes.
It's always the first thing I notice lol
You dont necesseraly lose all your eyebrows and lashes. But it would at least be thin and patchy. My mom only lost hers past the 12 th chemo session.
My sister has stage 4 ovarian cancer it was a devastating diagnosis. My dad being a rational and planning man was just like “ Ok where do we go from here, what specialist need to be seen and what is the treatment plan?”etc. My sister actually told him “ Why are you gonna waste your money on me, I might not even make it.” My dad told her “ Don’t you ever say something like that again, money is the least of our worries, you stop talking down to yourself and focus on fighting this. A lot of people have survived this and so can you!” Luckily my sister took really well to chemo and radiation so things are looking good. I hope other women with this can overcome it as well! Blessings to you all! ❤
Your dad sounds wonderful, more worried about her than money. I hope your sister continues to do well and is able to beat it! Hope you’re all doing well too!
now this is a dad! i'm so happy your sister seems to recover and i wish your family all the best❤
Oh I’m so happy to hear uplifting stories like this. Your dad is wonderful, and your sister is a fighter. Y’all all sound like lovely, supportive people and I hope y’all receive all the blessings!
so glad your sister is well! i hope she lives a long and happy life ❤
I'm so glad your father is loving and your sister is strong. That story really highlights the tragedy that we as a society, in too many places, put someones child in a position to feel their life is not worth the expense of treating illness and for many, that's the reality. Healthcare is a human right .
For anyone new here, Petal has first-hand experience with being diagnosed with cancer. The research that goes into Petal’s videos is always astounding but knowing Petal’s experience makes this video even more powerful when covering videos of those pretending to have this diagnosis.
thank you for the context!
It really adds a lot to have her covering this. She made a video about being diagnosed but never anything after that. Does Petal still have cancer or is she in remission?
I agree that her experience adds passion of the video - but unfortunately there are errors throughout the video (coming from someone who had ovarian cancer in Australia)
@@siouxsie18 Not saying you're lying or anything but you're gonna say that and not even elaborate?
@@exessen1684I wrote a long comment with some of my experiences already. If you can’t find that, petal says treatment is a hysterectomy for ovarian cancer which doesn’t make sense - why would you remove your uterus for a mass on your ovary? The prognosis is also variable on which stage of cancer not just because of the treatment, but because of what actual type of cancer you have. I had a better prognosis at stage II than what was said in the video, and I’m assuming she took an average survival rate across each stage without taking into consideration what actual type (but she didn’t say that).
What else would you like to know?
It’s always a little bit funny when people who do cancer scams seem to do absolutely zero research
Yeah, I raised my eyebrow at the video title like "stage FIVE?" lol
Its downright stupid and ignorant. And very disgusting. I'm sure there are the smarter ones that actually can get away with this bs. I'm glad these people are stupid enough to get caught.
@@109367yea stage 5 is crazyyy
@@109367Although in this case we know it to be false there are only a select few cancers that DO have a Stage 5 but most are in children. There’s also a Stage 0 cancer as well. I’m not trying to be mean but just putting the info out there because some just don’t know.
Lol right. It's baffling.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if she got pregnant on purpose just to try to get a lighter sentence. The level of manipulation you have to be willing to engage in to pull something like this off makes me question everything that person does and says.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the kid starts getting sick all of the time with a mysterious illness.
I wouldn't believe a damn thing. Just like people that come on here and say they have cancer or went through cancer. I don't believe most of the crap people comment.
@@JinxMarie1985lol this is me when I’m watching videos about DID fakers. 90% of the comments are from those who claim to “really” have the disorder and a good half of them are still minors
Ahh yes, the Elizabeth Holmes method.
Yeah just like that Theranos beyatch
A lot of people are quick to assume Brad was involved, but it doesn't make sense that he would take out two loans for her treatment if he knew that she was lying.
i think he was suspicious far before he let on but he didn’t say anything bc he didn’t want to be that dick accusing someone of faking cancer
But also if he was supposedly picking up meds for her and she had no prescription, then where tf was he going to pick up her "meds" 🤔
Especially engaging in fraudulent activities as an active member of the military. Would not make sense for him to risk dishonorable discharge over.
@@MusicalMachineEtcmaybe she faked her own prescription based on other peoples cancer prescriptions online? It was mentioned that she forged other documents (like being a patient of a doctor), it wouldn’t be too crazy. And he took her word for it, because - well - he loved her. I could be wrong, I don’t know this case well; just offering another perspective. Enjoy your day 🫶🏼
@@rulie It doesn't make any sense, most necessary medicine is $6.00 for a months worth here. Even if she was on 10 different medicines here it would still only be $60 a month. I don't know how he couldn't have known, and chemotherapy is free in public hospitals. I'm so confused.
This seriously irritates me. My beautiful 27yr old daughter charley passed away from breast cancer on 11/23/19...an we tried hard to raise money to send her to MD Anderson in Texas for hopefully better treatment but her cancer was so aggressive that we ran out of time. Wonderful trusting people donate to these people an these scammers are taking from the ones that truly need it. Prison for a long time is what they should all get. I watched my beautiful daughter slowly die an just wither away in 3mos time. I was her fulltime caregiver. It was gut wrenching to say the very least. To pretend to have this horrible disease is worse than the cancer to me. These scamners are cancer to me. Thanks for covering this..
I'm so sorry 😔 nobody should die from lack of funding for care. Our sick-care system is so broken! My 27 year old niece is fighting cancer right now.
@@katiekane5247 what kind?
I’m sorry for your loss. ❤
My dad was my fulltime caregiver when I was diagnosed at 24.
I am sorry for your loss. I want to tell you that your sweet daughter, although she passed, undoubtedly loved every moment with you.
yeah knowing people lie about cancer when my mom passed from ovarian cancer in 2020 its insane. like it makes me soo upset because people actually die from cancer nd here they are faking it for attention
despite how awful lucy's lie was, i do find it kind of sweet how everyone rallied around her to provide as much support as they could. i wish that support could have gone to someone who needed it, because it's wonderful how a community can come together to do good.
ikr made me so sad that these kind people's trust was broken :(
Unfortunately, we are in a time where people will believe just about anything they read on the Internet. I have seen a lot of people rally around someone who really does need help, though, so luckily, it does exist.
Kind of sweet?? Yeh riiight!!
I just don’t understand how ppl faking terminal cancer, saying they have 6 months to live, don’t think about what they’re gonna do when in 6 months they just... don’t die???
It's easy. Just start mega-dosing vitamins and doing yoga, then tell people you cured yourself.
Some people are told they have 2 months to live and end up still living for another 10 years. I'm guessing they'd throw it on something like that.
"It's crazy dude, I just prayed one night and Jesus snapped his fingers. Proof! Gone! No more cancer! Anyway, who's down to hit the pubs?"
@@king_big_pp
My Grammy died from cancer so did my uncle.
He fought for 10 years and she fought for 5. We had to scrape money just to help them yet people like this get thousands. It's absolutely ridiculous.
I had a cancer scare recently because I have a cyst in ovary that is growing, Me and my mom had to pay over a thousand out of pocket just to make sure I wasn't severely sick. Cancer is not some joke it's devastating and a burden nobody should have to face.
Agreed. Wouldn’t wish it on any one let alone fake it
My husband has stage 4 esophagus cancer. We tried everywhere except asking community for help and now in debt the rest of our remaining years. Retirement depleted no government assistance. This really is upsetting to people who really need help and don’t receive it. ❤❤
wishing the best for you and your family, You shouldnt have to go through this ❤️
Praying for your husband 🙏 my mom has stage 4 liver cancer. It's the worst. ❤❤
she looks so much like jodi arias omg 😭😭
Yes! First thing I noticed!
It's the same beady close together little eyes and swollen gums that push the lips out
@@fauna5328a savage but very accurate description
I thought the same thing!!
that was the first thing I thought when I clicked on the thumbnail
To lie about having cancer while many people actually suffer and die from it, is beyond me.
I’ve been really sick with the flu and it’s been unbearable for me, I can’t even imagine the agony that people with cancer with cancer go through. It’s so sick that someone would want to fake such a horrific disease.
Petal Palmers hair is looking good. It's growing so fast and beautiful. I'm in the process of growing mine out for the second time, but I'm afraid that my curls won't be coming back 😢. It's growing straight, and though I'm so grateful to be cancer free and that my hair is even growing, I must admit that I'm a lil sad that my hair shows no sign of curls. I hope it's just a matter of time before it curls up.
Now this case is crazy. Faking cancer had to be one of the most disgusting and insensitive scams out there. I hope this woman repents and asksGod for forgiveness.
I'm so sorry that your hair isn't growing back the way you were expecting, I hope you get your curls back soon friend! So happy you beat cancer and I hope it stays gone!
@marnie9063 Awww, thank you!! 😊 Thank God I am cancer free. God willing, I'll remain thos way. 🙏 God bless you @marnie9063 ❤️
It might yet! I've had several family members and friends lose their hair to chemo. It changes the DNA so it may come back in completely different, but after the chemo is eliminated from your cells it should go back to your normal. ❤ I know a researcher who studies cancer and explained this to one of my family members who was struggling with cancer at that time. I hope you live a long healthy curly haired life. 💓
@faithsmit6839 😊 Thank you, Faith, for your commitment and encouragement. I appreciate it. The first time I went through chemo, I waited until my hair was about 2.5 inches, and I had braids put in, and that helped my hair grow fast. I'm going to try that again because I think it'll help my curls form finger crossed 🤞 lol
Thank you, and I wish you and your family all the best 💛
❤cancer free 16 years. Congratulations. My baby fine hair is like straw and when u brush I lose so much still. But I'm alive and my family loves me❤
seing somebody faking cancer for whatever reasons is truly tasteless. Both my parents died from cancer in the last six months and I never wish that for anybody. Lying about something serious like that is not okay.
I’m very sorry for your loss of your parents 😢
Holy shit both of them? I’m so incredibly sorry
I'm so sorry for your loss
See, giant red flag for any Australian should be "I can't pay for my chemo", particularly when you are going to a public hospital. Medicare means we don't pay. We pay our taxes and we get healthcare. My mum has just gone through all of this and has paid about $100 all up out of pocket.
Yes, if you have private health you can go through private and it will cost more but if you are worried about money - public system baby!
(Yes not being able to work means losing income, but the actual treatment costs in Australia can be literally zero.)
And let's not go into "losing" your hair but it's clearly just shaved and your brows, eyelashes and hair anywhere else doesn't fall out... uh huh...
A person may lose all their body hair, including eyebrows and eyelashes, while they are undergoing chemotherapy.
@Lauriej117 yes, that's what I said. It's a huge red flag for only head hair to be shed.
Public doesn’t mean best , unfortunately. Telling you from personal experience, if not for private insurance, I wouldn’t have been here.
@Vladi0310 bit to unpack there.
Not least that it literally doesn't matter in this case because she didn't have any cancer at all. I was pointing out that if someone is asking for money here in Aus, particularly if they are claiming to get treatment in a public hospital - that's a big old red flag for a scam.
I didn't actually make any claim about which is "best" - and this would obviously vary greatly depending on location, doctors in each system in that location, the condition you have, the resources available at the hospital etc etc. I could counter and point out my totally free orthopaedic surgery with a leading orthopaedic professor through a public hospital, while a cousin went private for almost the same break and got an older surgery technique that meant she had to be wheelchair bound for 12 weeks whilst I was doing hydrotherapy and physio within 6. Individual cases are going to vary greatly even within the system you go through.
I am glad you found a doctor/hospital that was able to help you!
I immediately googled it and found out within 2 seconds that Australia has free healthcare. I honestly don’t know how fellow Australians fell for this (I can understand some foreigners who don’t know about the free healthcare). It also makes me have a hard time believing Brad didn’t know to some extent.
My grandma had ovarian cancer and ironically had to stop her plans of leaving her alcoholic husband due to her diagnosis. She was a waitress, had no insurance and had to have experimental treatment that involved hours of small radiation balls being inserted inside of her. When they pulled them out, she said she felt it was like all her insides came out with them. She continued working and raised her kids with no help from her husband. Those "treatments" killed the cancer...and destroted her insides. She had to put what looked like little wax candles inside her vagina to keep it from scarring shut. It didnt work well. She barely had anything left down there and suffered with pain the rest of her life. But she was lucky, unlike the great majority of other women who felt they had no choice but to offer themselves to be experimented on alongside her, did not survive.
Anyone who has suffered any type of cancer treatment is unbelievably strong. It sucks to see so many people lying about it.
I have a friend who is “living while dying” from Stage IV ovarian cancer… it is the saddest decline to watch, while simultaneously seeing the hope that comes with new therapies and treatments.
I’m Australian and hadn’t heard of this case so thank you for covering it. It’s so disgusting that these people get away with this shit for so long.
Love your channel Petal, and hope you’re doing well :)
It’s amazing what therapies are out there. I hope your friend does well on them.
@@LaurindaBellinger thank you! She’s in about year 4 of living with this horrible disease. She has four daughters that I just feel for the most.. but she’s thriving as much as she can and staying alive for them!!
What’s most frustrating to me is that many people are now skeptical and accuse disabled people of faking 😢
Before I was diagnosed I was told I'm lazy and a liar. I have medical proof and that shut them up about that. But during treatment it wasn't easy because still expected to do most things and get yelled at. But whenever I post to my friends I post evidence so someone can't come and say I'm lying. I know my friends would believe me because my coworkers got cancer too. And some have passed away. But my family is a different story. But can't agrue with truth. 😁
Sad all around. So many cancer scams out there. Thank you for the upload.
It's pathetic that anyone would fake cancer. That disease destroys so many people's lives.
Also those scams "I changed from medications to homeopathic and look... I am cured" 🙄. And then people who actually have cancer read about this and quit their treatment. It is not super common but it happens.
congrats on graduating!! we're all so proud of you ❤️
How do we know about her graduating?
@@lololounge8281 At least for me, it was the community tab & briefly mentioned at the beginning of her last video.
@@lololounge8281ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxBWI27hR4fz2s4gsE8ulr80M-7-CW7hxM?si=ErLHfUYzbBOnt5EN
@@ZijnShayatanica Gotcha. Good for her!
Umm, chemo in Australia is covered under medicare… He wouldn’t have needed to take a loan out for it.
and when you apply for a loan you need to indicate what it’s for as part of the application. medical costs isn’t even an option, that I can recall? that’s the one bit that’s giving me pause about Brad, because he needed to apply for that loan. that doesn’t necessarily mean he chatted with the bank, but it raises a bit of uncertainty for me.
maybe just another layer to this scam, maybe he was offering to buy her better private care?
In the UK you can have free medical care or pay for private if you can afford it for better service and less waiting lists
@@bees9342crying in american rn, I have debt collectors after me because I went to the hospital last year (my liver was failing haha oopsie)
I love that for y'all so much tho. Nobody should have to go into debt to stay alive.
@@lilmorsecody that’s true, but it seems weird if you are taking out a loan to not be involved in researching the places offering treatment options and the costs. That’s going to be different for everyone, though, and a thing seeming odd doesn’t necessarily mean anything other than “yeah, that’s odd.”
(But I still don’t like it 🧐)
@@lilmorsecody is private even better? When I went private for an operation I was treated horribly, as badly as public healthcare. I've heard many other people who tried private say the same thing.
She 100000% got pregnant on purpose to USE that baby as a means to keep outta jail. I highly doubt she has MBP but rather is just a manipulative person who uses and abused people for her own means
Unfortunately, I am skeptical about every cancer patient I see on TikTok because of these scammers :(
I'm sceptical about TikTok full stop.
@@beckyf2845facts girl
Things done in the dark, will eventually come to light, for all eyes to see. 👀
Yes ma’am.
my uncle died from cancer, between being diagnosed and his passing it was a few days short of 4 weeks - it was devastating how quickly it all happened. one day we had heard he’d been going under to have the tumors in his spine and lungs removed and the next he was on an artificial coma because doctors found out there was liquid in his lungs.
this is the third time someone close to me and my family has passed from cancer.
just the thought of someone faking such a cruel, life altering disease to trap their s/o is sickening but to also scam $72k out of people who just wanted to help? it feels like such a cartoonishly evil thing, it almost doesn’t even feel real:
I can't imagine this kind of thing. Even if no one else ever found out, *I* would know, and I feel like it would destroy me.
That's because you have a conscience. People that do things like this have no moral compass and are just downright evil.
People like this make me so angry.
Me too. I’m a cancer survivor and it personally offends me
My grandfather died of cancer in february. He was the first one I have lost to cancer,and it changed everything about my world.
I’m so sorry 😢
Here’s my question, where are Lucy’s parents in this whole situation? I need to know what her childhood was like, and I want to know her parents’ reaction to this.
I feel like that would be very interesting and probably eye opening. We always discuss the childhoods of killers, to try and understand how they became so awful. We discuss the childhoods of cult leaders to try and explain why they ended up that way. But large scale manipulators like this, like people who are arrested for massive collar crimes, like the tinder swindler, etc. never have their childhoods discussed, despite also being people who dedicate their life to being horrible. Obviously murder is worse than all the other stuff, but that doesn’t mean the people who do all that other stuff aren’t evil or that we shouldn’t try and understand them to catch them sooner
i can’t speak for lucy’s parents but, if my daughter was faking cancer,i wouldn’t want to admit i’m related to her
If my kid did this, you'd never see my ass 😂
It 's unfortunate. Because of things like this, real people with real illness and really in need of help will get overlooked in fear of it being another scam. Because of things like this, society will be afraid of being kind and compassionate.
My ex-husband was dating a drama queen who had cancer… she was nuts and went to the ER on the weekly for “pain control”. My teen daughter would go with her and secretly video how her behavior would change depending who was in the room.
One day she told my ex her brain tumor was inoperable and she didn’t have much time left. Because she had a boatload of money and property (so she claimed, but she lived in a hotel), I jokingly told my ex that he better marry her quickly!
He did. And it’s been seven years. She’s still alive and he is miserable.
My ex-friend was similar, she only complained that her back is very painful. But then once when I was driving her to hospital I didn't notice pump on the road. Car pumped quite a bit. I was horrified and kept asking if she is ok. She didn't understand why I was asking. I realized she was lying. There were signs already before that at that moment I knew for certain. I totally cut all connections when she took meds, alcohol and stabbed her ex... Then I decided "Time to flee" 🏃♀️
Sounds similar the Scamanda case. Have you heard of her? You might want to listen to the podcast if you havnt already. The podcast is called Scamanda. In fact, ABC is airing a docuseries about the case in October.
Oh wow Petal just starting this-love your content and cancer scams/disease scams just boggle my mind to no end
This story is crazy! I can't imagine someone taking advantage of the world's kindness. Such a shame. People like this cause real stories not to be shared 😡
I’m gonna be real, I do have a very hard time believing Brad wasn’t in on it to some extent. It took me 2 seconds of googling to find out that Australia has free healthcare, including for cancer patients. Surely people who have lived there their entire lives would know this?
I just googled it and it appears that out of pocket expenses can occur and vary depending on the type and severity of the cancer. Its not unheard of, so there is a chance her boyfriend and friend might not have known. Sucks if they did, though. This is awful
maybe that's why he was asking for funding for the expensive alternative treatments in the gofundme?
I think so as well, but free health care just means free for the bare minimum. But I suspect he was using it for financial advantage as well
Given the fact that she has proven to be extremely manipulative and cunning, I would cut him some slack. Maybe he didn’t have many encounters with the Australian healthcare system, at least not to this extent. If this woman was able to manipulate and lie to hundreds, is it really that out of the realm of possibility to lie to him as well? And she cemented herself in his life despite him stating that he isn’t looking for something in the long run, so the manipulation started early one. Spending more time with her and caring for her meant that he was trapped and exposed to her lies more than others. I believe that he is a victim of her emotional abuse(he wouldn’t have taken thousands of dollars in loans if his end goal was making money, money that was proven to be spent by his girlfriend). He also wouldn’t have quit his job in the army(where your record matters so so much). I believe that her attempt at painting Brad as the big bad guy, the brains of this operation and an accomplice is yet another lie to cover her ass(she proved countless times just how much of a pathological liar she is) So unless further evidence emerges, I won’t punch down on an already broken man
As someone who lives in a country with what can be seen as free healthcare, usually the extent of coverage of it stops at some point. At times, not all treatment methods may be accessible freely, and in those instances people will reach out to private healthcare. To access those, he probably started taking out the loans because he wanted his loved one to get better access to those treatments. I can believe he wasn't in on it for financial gain
as someone whose mother almost died of cancer in 2020, stuff like this ENRAGES me so bad. not only the scam aspect but also the fact that she put her boyfriend and both their families through hell. my mom has been cancer free for 3 years and our entire family still suffers intensely from all this, we are all in therapy and it has changed our lives forever. i truly wish lucy the worst.
I agree it’s disgusting and cruel to those who have cancer
If she had looked up the statistics she would have seen that majority of men who’s female partners get sick will abandon her during her illness
That is true. I know someone whose husband of 25 years left the day of diagnosis and put her through a brutal divorce. My husband of 21 years ( 22 now) had been right by my side.
I just was diagnosed with stage 1 breast cancer a week ago. I'm 28. My family is strug
struggling with that news. I can't imagine inflicting that pain intentionally on your loved ones.
Damn. I'm so sorry you're going through that. I was diagnosed with stage 1 ductal carcinoma in October at age 40 and keep getting told I'm young to be going through it. It's terrifying at first, but hopefully once they have a clear plan of treatment for you, it will be easier to focus on the future. ❤
You got this, you can beat it!
This video hit so hard. I just lost my mom to ovarian cancer. The fact that someone could lie about having such a horrible disease is completely beyond me. I would not wish that suffering and heartbreak on my worst enemy
Cancer runs through my mom's family. She has lost almost every single family member to one form or another of cancer. My cousin was 19 when she was diagnosed with Hodgkin's.
So when I see something like this it makes me mad. There is no excuse for this
Petal, I can’t get past how people do this. Having dealt with Cancer myself as I know you have it’s absolutely cruel to do this. Thank you Petal for telling this story. ❤
My wife and I were referred to your by UA-cam, because we watch chubbyemu who covers medical accidental stories. After watching this and your Edgewater video, we’ve become quick fans and have plans to binge watch your channel.
Your channel is just as awesome, unique telling, being very informative and knowledgeable and straightforward. We bought popcorn and beverages, now our journey through your videos begin.
Also, thank you for a captivating channel.
Love Chubbyemu! That’s how I found this Channel too 😂
My brother was diagnosed at 28 with AML in december and it makes me even more sick and disgusted at people who fake cancers for selfish gain. It takes a real messed up person to do something like that
As I’m sure you’d agree… for those of us that do/did have cancer, this enrages me!!
I don’t know what it’s like having cancer, but my girlfriend died of cervical cancer 2 years ago. I can’t imagine being in Brad’s position… what would I do or say? Anyway, I wish you the best in your fight/future health!
@@Lee-vt6qoThats so sad I’m sorry about your girlfriend. I’m sure she’s still with you in spirit watching over you ❤️
Agree 👍
I find it hard to believe her bf wasn't involved tbh. Those were some crazy involved complicated lies to keep from someone you live with. But I can also see how she did it to trap him.
We don't have to pay for cancer treatment in Australia. Even if it's $500k, it's covered.
My wife had U.S. Medicare and a free Medicare supplemental health insurance her medical bills were over $1 million, every cent was paid for by her insurance.
@@A-FrameWedge Where I live, every citizen is entitled to free cancer treatment. Literally, every single citizen. Rich or poor, employed or not.
@@pm2886 Socialized medicine has huge drawbacks, look what is going on in the UK, long wait times to see specialists, mri’s and CT scans, and surgery. And the bigger the country the tougher it is to have Gov. run healthcare, because it is so huge and overburdened by bureaucratic BS, not to mention a huge illegal immigrant population that expects free healthcare, and they get it, while Americans must pay.
@@A-FrameWedge Not all systems are the same as the UK's. Also, their immigration laxity is costing them hugely. Here, we have very tight immigration policies, and only citizens can access free healthcare. No recent immigrants can get free healthcare - much less illegal ones.
As for wait times - they don't exist. If your life depends upon treatment, you'll get it immediately. Always.
I've been rushed to hospital in May by ambulance due to sudden horrendous pain. I spent 5 weeks in there, big growth on my left ovary was discovered and tumour markers were high in my blood test. I had a hysterectomy, had to have fluid removed around my lungs and had to spent ages waiting for histology results. The pain, the uncertainty, the loneliness... results finally came back as Endometrial cancer but im optimistic that they caught it early. How anyone can lie about this is beyond me. I wouldnt wish it on anyone.
When I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer when I couldn't breathe,11.5L of ascites fluid removed over a few days. I also had fluid between the membranes of my left lung. Even with local anaesthetic that removal was agony when they were inserting the needle
@india1422 yes, it frigging hurts, I don't care what they say. I had it done three times in five weeks just on one side. I hear you!
I have my own case of this☠️ my ex had a bitter baby momma and she couldnt handle him moving on so she came down to Denver to get “tests”. Girl had stage 4 LUNG cancer. I know that smoking and genetics play a big part, she was a non smoker with no history though. It completely blew my mind how everyone was so blind. I get not everyone shaves their hair, but, she said she was getting chemo AND radiation and if you know; it will most likely cause hair loss. This lasted only three months and i left. After that, no mention of cancer. What a coincidence. SMH . The lengths people will go instead of being genuine and getting the help they so desperately need. Another girl in my high school did the same to her boyfriend but she went the full 9 yards. One thing ive taken away from my view is that if someone doesn’t love you, you need to keep it moving. Its so unnecessary and i feel like it calls bad juju in your life.
Let me add she went on to have a successful pregnancy literally six months later. Im not saying its not possible; but highly unlikely given such a diagnosis. Now that i am in medical school it makes even more sense 🤦🏻♀️
It’s so heart warming when communities come together to uplift and support others. But it’s also so damn heartbreaking when those same kind hearted people find out that they’ve been deceived. I always worry that when people fake illnesses like this, they’ll not believe someone who does actually have an illness or they’ll be hesitant to really care.
I am Aussie and I remember all this going down, I lived in QLD too and it was honestly just wild. Its so disgusting. Thank you for the great upload ❤
And she not only owns her business once, but twice!?! Even after all that??? Who would pay for her services? How is a convicted criminal able to pull that off, unless committing more fraud?
I love your videos, listening to your voice is so soothing and the respect and research you put into every video makes you stand out so much. I’m so glad to see your channel take off as much as it did! You really deserve it
Can you imagine a family member doing this? How could you look at them ever again?
from a safe distance
I really hope everything is going well for you petal ❤️ love from michigan
Btw I freaking love your background. So warm and cozy and inviting
and she's also always looks stunning! Everything about her videos is like balm and sage for the eyes ❤ except the dark topics lmao
@@chubbydinosaur9148 So true, there are true crime podcasters I can barely watch, but she makes me feel "comforted enough" to listen to them and feel more educated 🙏🏻
She was saying that he was the scammer, but why would he take out two loans for said "scam?"
stuff like this is why I choose not to help strangers, i know there are people out there who really need the help, but i'm not risking it, especially with me being low income, i can't afford to loose money to a scammer
Same here… it’s hard to help people nowadays
I really respect this mindset, but my mindset is a little different. I have some disposable income that I set aside to donate each month - obviously if you dont have the extra money I would not advocate donating to anyone, especially given the risk of scams. But at least for me I do still choose to donate to gofundmes and the like as I believe, even in the vast minority of cases where I may be donating to a scam, the likelihood that the person “scamming” to get money is also in need is pretty high imo. Most people don’t scam like this woman, most scam because they themselves are in a desperate position and are willing to compromise moral boundaries to get money, the same way some people steal food or etc. I feel okay donating to someones medical fund as, even if this is not someone w a medical issue who is effectively scamming me, they are likely still in need, and need my disposable income more than I do
@@sabeena555scamming people is significantly less understandable than stealing food. Don't be so naive, if someone is willing to lie to you to take your money they don't see you as anything more than a transaction. If they are so in need it's most likely because they've pushed everyone who loves them away by being awful to people, hence why they are okay with scamming people now.
I'm not even low income, I do pretty well, but I won't help people either unless I know them well. 😬 I used to be homeless from the middle of senior year high school until I was almost 20. I've seen some stuff. 👀
Even after that I've seen some crazy stuff, we had a girl fake cancer at one of my old jobs because she was lazy and didn't want to do any work. So she came up with the bright idea to have "cancer" so she could always be "too nauseous" and "too dizzy" to do anything and could call out at-will. Eventually HR was tired of waiting for her to bring in documentation for FMLA so they fired her and her sister discovered her lie by following her "to treatment" one day. Small-ish town, we all loosely knew each other outside of work.
@@Sing_A_Rebel_Song Just help others though good organizations. I like to donate to the Fred Hollows Foundation
I cannot even fathom how the REAL victims of cancer and the heroes like you Petal that beat cancer, how you feel about these sick sickening just awful people that try and get away with this!!! It makes me extremely upset and outright ANGRY that these people do it and also the ones that get away with it!!! Makes me sick.
I cant believe how you could fake this and take the money.. My mom was recently diagnosed with breast cancer and she starts chemotherapy Friday. The idea of getting donated over 50K to help with medical costs is insane!! And she accepted all of it she didnt stop it that's just so terrible and sick I cant even imagine the number 50k and what that could do for my mom. Cancer is so scary and such a life shaker and faking it is so evil
praying for yo
Petal is cranking these videos out and I am living for it! I am SO glad you cover medical cases. I'm a medical coder and find it all very fascinating. Petal, you're easily one of my top UA-camrs and am so glad I came across your channel many months ago. ♥️
Side note...your room/background is SUCH a calming vibe. Love it
So she had no family to go to? He didn't find suspicious that she didn't allow anyone to go to the hospital with her?
Hi Petal, i just wanted to say that i love how you present your content. It feels like you're engaging us in conversation rather than merely presenting information. You're clearly intelligent and the stories you choose to cover are unique. Thanks for the hard work you put into your videos ❤️
A side note: I didn't know what the stages of cancer were specifically. It's awesome that you explain these things.
I've known so many people who died from cancer. Its a scary thing to watch. Its painful... They're in so much pain. Its heart wrenching. We need a cure. 😞
My mom died of pancreatic cancer, she couldn’t tolerate chemo & her doctor gave her less than 6 months to live. She went on hospice, turned basically skeletal, and died 3 months after diagnosis. I moved from my home in Houston back to Dallas to spend every single day caring for her, it was devastating. I also lost my dad from metastatic cancer that spread to his brain. I can’t imagine someone doing this when it’s absolutely heartbreaking. We never raised money, we never had help. It’s baffling to me how they justify it in their mind.
My mom was diagnosed with ovarian cancer Dec of 2014 and then she died on September 10th 2015 so yeah 🤷♀️ I was 15 and I thought I had healed from it honestly but for some reason I started cry while watching this, because it was making me remember/think about what it was actually like with my mom while she was going through cancer.
Sorry my grammar is crap so excuse that.
Great video, I completely agree with your conclusion too. Clearly a person having the capability to do such a thing is indicative of underlying mental issues, and a certain level of empathy and understanding must be employed. but it's possible to give empathy without ignoring accountability
Sending you love and healing energy ❤️ This type of scam disgusts me because people like yourself are the true heroes, not these liars
I’m so happy to see you post hope you’re doing well 💕
as someone who’s lost my grandma to stage 4 ovarian cancer and breast cancer this makes me sick like how could you be so selfish to do that! do they not understand how under reached this type of cancer is and how it affects women physically emotionally and mentally….this is saddling
Stage 4 is the highest stage of cancer with the exception, childhood cancer of the kidneys. One being a wilms tumor also called a nephroblastoma
I swear, Maddy Russo stole the book on " how to scam and lie about cancer from other scammers". This is sad😢. While I don't have cancer, I've lost MANY relatives to it. It's nothing to lie about. I hate people still continuing to do this bs. Ty for your wonderful coverage Petal ❤
The fact that statistics show that men are more likely to leave their partner after a cancer diagnosis and she was with someone who would actually stay and took advantage of it, adds just such another level of despicableness to this.
I am in Australia and I don't recall hearing about this case! Must have my head under a rock lol. Great coverage Petal I really enjoy your videos!
i got diagnosed with a BRCA mutation and had my first prophylactic surgery that same summer and have spent the last 5 years doing between 2 and 5 screenings a year depending on if i have concerning symptoms. i felt completely alone until meeting people my age in support groups. If i'd found out that one of them had been scamming, I would have been heartbroken, because it was already so rare to find someone who had been there. ovarian cancer is really, really rare (1-3% general population, though of course people like me have higher risk-30-50%) and so my heart hurts for anyone in her support groups, especially for young people in the group, who would have a hard time finding anybody who understood that particular experience.
your "bye now" & smile are heart warming. ♥️
Lying and asking for money. The first can be forgivable particularly given mental illness but the latter. Yeah. Hope she stays in therapy.
off topic but i really love your background and lighting, you have created an excellent calm space! thanks for the great video as always, Petal ⚘ ♡
i love your hair in this video
Small quibble. Stage 0 isn't no cancer, it's what is also referred to as cancer in-situ, meaning it's self contained and hasn't spread into nearby tissue. There ARE certain types of cancers that are classified as stage 5, but you could count those on one hand and ovarian cancer isn't one of them. Best guess, Lucy got confused about the "five stages of cancer" and didn't realize they go from 0-4, not 1-5. Which is such a rookie mistake it's like she didn't even try at all.
A friend of mine had stage 4 ovarian cancer and I can't for the life of me understand why someone would try to fake it. It's one of the most brutal diagnoses a person can get. Even people who survive past the five year mark don't often live a normal lifespan. Less than ten percent are expected to survive as long as ten years. Ovarian cancer almost always comes back; it's just a matter of when, and the medical upkeep even after being declared no evidence of disease is INTENSE, you basically live at the doctor's. Trying to keep this con going long-term would've been nearly impossible.
"Which is such a rookie mistake it's like she didn't even try at all" is so funny 😭
she really does suck at this though lol if she just wanted to trap her bf she REALLY shouldnt have been posting about this on media and asking for donations. she made it so much easier to get caught
I had melanoma in situ /stage 0. It was successfully removed with clean margins but it still is a possibility that it will come back some day. My mom died of complications from treatment of stage 1 pancreatic cancer in October 2022. I don't understand why anyone would fake cancer.
Wow, I’ve lived in Townsville and have not heard this. Thanks for covering this!
Petal, I love your new background! Plants and noir lighting 🖤🌱
Petal, you are glowing, you look gorgeous.
I'd never heard of this case before (I'm Australian) and as someone who has what is often referred to as an invisible illness to which people at times have not been nice to me (I have severe ME/CFS), hearing about someone faking an illness to this degree really upsets me. How did she fake this to this degree? even with the weight loss etc. A couple of times online I've seen "genuine" people with stage 4 cancer being called fake, no doubt people like this one impacts many. She should have got MANY MANY years in jail and someone who can do this, just should not even be raising a child
I'm currently in treatment for stage 1 ductal carcinoma. Lumpectomy in December, had 12 taxol infusions, getting herceptin every 3 weeks, and just had my 6th out of 19 radiation treatments. I'm so blessed that my treatments have been fairly easy so I don't have to miss much work, and I have excellent health insurance. I do NOT look like a cancer patient, and if I had to start asking for money, I'd probably get accused of scamming.
How did she trick the boyfriend? it's easy to trick people online -- they don't see you 23 hours of the day. But she lived with him and he took care of her. Like how did she fake vomiting? And was laying on the bathroom floor really that fun for her? And what medicine did she give him to put in the nebulizer? I dont see how the boyfriend couldn't have known.
There are anti cancer drugs that can stop you vomiting and reduce the side effects of the cancer. So my guess is she pretended to take anti cancer meds and he didn’t question it
You have done a beautiful job with this video. I am a cancer warrior x 2; it hurts me to the core that someone would involve people in such a terrifying and complex ordeal.
I’m still watching it, but what a sweet and supportive boyfriend Brad was. I’m so sorry he got taken advantage of.
I hope he’s met a partner with as big a heart as he has!
Is stage 5 even possible?
There’s only a few very specific instances where you would use the term stage five cancer
Not for ovarian cancer. The only one I know of that has a stage 5 is Nephroblastoma/Wilms tumor and that’s a cancer of the kidneys that’s usually only diagnosed in children.
Stage 5 is death.
Not typically no unless it's a specific kind of kidney cancer.
No.
Random comment with regards to the PICC line since I gather from the videos of yours I’ve seen you’re as into geeky medical details as I am.
I’ve been living with various forms of central lines for the last 15 years and can say both that I see and regularly have people- including my own care providers and with my own medical record- misname and mislabel lines all the dang time. Wouldn’t even be surprised or make anything of the misspelling either.
BUT- what I thought you’d find even more interesting is that I have very literally had a PICC line placed centrally. Like my usual line for my particular need (TPN and IV hydration and meds- so it’s in constant use and hence no port as one would generally expect a cancer patient to receive) is a hickman and it’s tunneled in my chest wall, enters at the base of my neck into my internal jugular and obviously the end of the line rests in my SVC or the upper part of my heart. I had a PICC line placed in the same exact way. It was the worst line I ever had since while it was tunneled, it doesn’t have a cuff like a hickman or broviac style line does. That also means that rather like with a PICC in one’s arm, it doesn’t heal in place and can slide in and out and easily become dislodged.
There’s a lot of geeky in depth debate over the benefits of various types of lines over others but it is pretty nonsensical to place a PICC that way. Mine was done a good 14 years or so ago and the only reason I can think of for why it was given to me is simply that there was nothing else in stock. Back in that time though- another maaaaybe reason to have done it would be if I needed it for specific medical procedures like CT that uses a power injector. Hickman and similar are generally made of silicone and not safe for use with a power injector. Most PICC lines, as was the case with the one I had in my chest/ IJ, are made of polyurethane and can be used with the power injector. About 10-12 years ago the manufacturer of hickman and broviac lines did come out with a power/ polyurethane hickman. It looks almost identical to the brands purple power PICC. But has a cuff for the sake of tunneling and longer term use. So now there is no reason whatsoever (unless the whole “this is what we have in stock”) to place a PICC centrally. But basically saying- it can be done and I’ve had one.
Anyway- loads of geekery there. I see from the photo you shared she’s using a nontransparent dressing. I’m going to go with what I assume without watching past the PICC line part of the video- that she likely never had a line of any kind to begin with. I’ve noticed fakers always use nontransparent dressings. Which makes sense. Gotta cover up what isn’t there- either a line exiting the skin or a port needle in place. Not to make light of the fact some folks have allergies and all but transparent dressing is heavily preferred for any sort of line so one can monitor for infection and nontransparent dressings are supposed to be changed much more often (accepted guideline is 3 days for nontransparent while a week/7 days is the standard with transparent ones such as tegaderm and the like). Mostly I doubt she ever had a line if it’s all fake since it’s not easy to get one without having some kind of legitimate need. And then theres the issue of how ports can be deaccessed for showers or even for months at a time while any other form of central line or picc is going to require daily maintenance however long it's in place.
It's late and I'm tired so apologies if more details than necessary. But given the focus you gave it, I hope you found this useful.
Lot's of good information there! I had a PICC for a few months for antibiotics.
I don't really want to uh... Call her out? 😅 But for everyone below:
A central line goes into the carotids and only the carotids. [Vampire joke here].
If you look at the image provided, there's one named the subclavicular. That, despite it's literally placement below the collarbone, is a peripheral nerve because it goes to the arm. Hence: PICC line goes here. One more reason... Here... Breast cancer patients can never get blood work from the affected side because there's usually a lymph node or two because
cancer lymph
I dont understand how an Australian forgot about medicare? Brad knew more than he let on. And if not why didnt he urge her to go public, public goes on acuity and she would have been high acuity and seen fast. No ones telling the truuuuuuutttthhhhhhh
Maybe he has health care through the military so he wasn’t familiar with medicare being available to the public? But also why wouldn’t he have researched to help her out? So definitely fishy, he probably caught on eventually but played along with her for the $$$
Pair of losers if thats the case
I'm thinking the same thing.
My first thought- all of her treatments would have been 100% free!
Right after the "free healthcare thing" that's my second problem with this. He KNEW!
As an Australian I agree 👍
The Belle Gibson story is wild, because she has gone on to attempt several cons after she was outed for faking cancer, including pretending to be part of a local Oromo community.
As for Lucy, pretending to more or less have amnesia after she got caught? Sod off with that!
Yay a new Petal Palmer video ❤❤ always enjoy your content girl!
I was able to tell something was up by the pictures of her hair “loss” it looked shaved.
It's so sad such good people were taken advantage of, put into debt, have their careers stalled, and their hearts shattered. On one hand, it's heartwarming to see the goodness and compassion they radiated during the story but I can't imagine the pain and anger they must feel. I hope they'll never change.
I have ovarian cancer, stage four because it spread. But, the doctors have a very positive outlook. 2-3 years of chemo. Another surgery. Maybe radiation. But, I should be alright. My body is doing well with the chemo for the most part.
I did basically tell the doctor to take whatever they could out. My ovaries almost crushed my kidneys because I was a dumbass who knew I wasn't well but didn't want to admit it might be something serious. I had lost a lot of weight before I went in to actually get checked out. Had to have nephrostomy tubes in both kidneys for 3 months. Was not fun.
I really don't get why people would want to fake something so serious. It boggles the mind.
I think there is way more to this story than anyone is saying. Brad is absolutely way more responsible than anyone is giving him credit for.
Your hair is looking beautiful petal! Excellent vid as per usual, well researched and presented
She weirdly looks like Jodi Arias