$598 Hyper Carbon X 29er Carbon Fiber Mountain Bike from Walmart
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- Hyper makes the Carbon X 26 Mtb that I turned into Project X. Now they have a new Carbon X 29 mountain bike. With 29ers being the most popular wheel size, this should appeal to a wider market. One thing about it though, is the price...$598, which gets into local bike shop territory. Is it a worthy successor to the Carbon X 26er? Can it compete with entry level offerings from a LBS?
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Kev has really helped me to develop a sense for what a good Walmart bike is and that’s the whole reason I started UA-cam because of him.
I got back into cycling because of him. I have schwinn boundary now and ride it everywhere.
Schwinn is really beating hyper down these days.
Probably manufactured in the same factory
Yeah this fork doesn"t even have a lockout like Schwinn Axum does.
They all come from same Chinese manufacturer they just another brand
When was Hyper ever better than Schwinn?
Nah, I'm not paying 600 for a frame. That's what this is
A frame with 10 year old geometry and thru axle at that.
@@goahead3995 yeah but it'll be better in every single way
@@adambcvg if you're some kind of panty wearing snob roadie that looks like your smuggling a mini pump in your lycra.
@Stephen Cho Sorry I meant no thru axle.
Goahead yea my yeti sb165 has a 3999 frame but it’s a yeti
Bro you have been such an inspiration that I started getting my friends bikes and fixing them for cheap with cheap but good parts thanks bro 👋🏼👌🏼🐐
This is the cheapest expensive bike I have ever seen.
😂
nah
more like most expensive cheap bike
@@annaliseclayton6365 this
@@mopia huh
Great review as always mate! I don't personally see this bike as a wise investment. Maybe $100 less expensive based on component level and it becomes a good value. I purchased the 2016 Raleigh Tokul 1 in early 2017; and it was spec'd with much better components and geo at $550. It's a far reach for me to view this as a solid purchase for even light trail riding at it's price point. Thanks for the review and as always looking forward to more in the future. Cheers!
Yeah. You still need to put $200into this for a decent air-spring fork and some $150 for Shimano derailleur and solid drivetrain. Now you still stuck with plastic tires and actualy no brakes for trip into mountains.
As I was watching the vid I got curious about it being worth buying just for the frame for a frame-up build. But then I saw the limited tire clearance and no boost in the rear. Then the 71 degree head tube angle. All three deal breakers for a frame up build.
Its carbon:)
I always get excited with these and go “wow, only $600”.
Then I remember that the price is in USD, and I convert it to AUD and I go “oh no, almost $1000 for that”.
Freedom bucks
Horrible conversion rates for Aussies currently
Bradley Chong do you know how conversion works??? value isn’t lost...
I feel you buddy
1000 DOLLARYDOOS!!!!
For $600 it should have hydraulics and sr suntour forks like my $500 giant talon 3 has those stock
Walked out of Trek with a 2020 Marlin 6 for $600. You think that was a fair price?
@@Vintiqueture yeah that's like the average price for a marlin 5
Axel Lim and I bet it weighs less this this Carbon bike and has superior components!
Just wait it'll $200 less by Summer
Luca Roberts the giant talon 3 is leagues above all Walmart bikes for a similar price. Decent shimano drivetrain, hydraulic discs, sr suntour xct. And not to mention you can have confidence that it was assembled properly by a LBS Mechanic. I have a Talon 27.5 and it is a great value.
There are CF frames on ebay and Amazon for $400ish, and for another $400ish you can complete the bike with decent parts to make it a reasonably worthy bike. Great review Kev!
This is my 13th time watching this because no other UA-camr will review it
In Alaska, MTB's are sold out everywhere. I got this at my local Wal-Mart. The wheels were dirty, and a yellow tag said $300. Someone used it once and said it was too tall for him. They were putting it on display as I was walking out. This bike was priced at $670. Yeah. I'm happy
Its a nice bike, solid frame.
That geo is wacky because of the fork. More than likely this is an open mold frame that was engineered by the Asian frame manufacturer as a 120mm bike. You get roughly a .5degree for every 10mm of fork travel change +/-. So if this frame was set up for a modern 120mm fork you would see an HT angle of 68degree and that would put it at a "typical" trail headtube angle.
I was at Walmart the other day and almost all of the bikes were sold...except this one. I love the look of the matte black and green and the fact that it is a 17" bike. I can't get over the headtube angle though. I was on Hyper Mountain Bike's gram account and saw some very amazing designs they have been working on. If those bikes come to market soon, they will blow the competition out of the water. I have feeling they might be coming soon because of the Hydroform being discontinued. Keep up what you are doing Kev and stay healthy.
Enjoying the Axum I picked up on Good Friday, largely thanks to your review. If I ever buy a 2nd bike, it won't be this Hyper Carbon X.
Would love to see your upgrades for this. Looked around for a carbon fiber frame bike and couldn't even find a used one for under a $1,000.
Just like there is a point of diminishing returns on high end bikes this proves that there is also a point of diminishing returns on big box bikes.
Since the bike shops are closed this is great time to work on mechanic skills, UA-cam tutorials are how I learned, especially with derailers and learning about the limit screws that will stop from chain drops.
Our bike shops are open here in Madison Wisconsin ..of course limited hours..and limited options..but service is available for drop off pick up...
Our LBS are open in California!
Our bike shops in Minnesota are open with limited hours and safe services.
In Alabama, bike shops made it on the essential services list
Well my bike shops are closed :/
I’m 6’1” 208 lbs and I found this bike small due to the 17” frame, the small brake handles that only hold 2.5 of my fingers, and the pedals that aren’t wide enough for my shoes. I really wanted to like this bike because it’s carbon and I would have happily paid the $600 if it had other components as fitting as the $248 Schwinn Boundary that I ended up buying. On the Boundary I can fit 3 fingers on the brake lever, the pedals fit my shoes without looking to make sure I place them perfectly, the frame is 19” instead of 17”, and the handle bars are wider. When I slowed down to make a tight turn around a corner isle in the store, this bike felt difficult to balance, I had to shake the handle bars back and forth to stop from falling. On the Boundary I could slow almost to a stop and keep my balance with the wheel turned either direction. On paper I wanted this carbon bike, but test driving made the $248 Shwinn nicer regardless of price.
Another great video Mr KevCentral, the Walmart near my location sells the 26" Carbon X for $298.00 and the 29" for $498.00. My problem with the 29" X is that the front wheel is too close to the pedals on my test ride in Walmart. Again great video and stay safe you and your family.
Which one do you go with?
Seems for that price your paying for the frame.
And the frame cost Hyper about $40.
@@bobbyhempel1513 and that's fuckin scary!!!
You can get a identical frame from china for like $250
Kaden Golda Where?
@@Bpf1893 aliexpress. Home of the $750 downhill bike with 210mm suspension lol
The Schwinns you reviewed recently seem much more appealing than this one. I was hoping for a much better spec on this.
I'd either throw some mods at a Schwinn or go entry LBS bike for $650.
I appreciate the honest review.
Great review as usual. I just don't see myself spending that kind of money for a bike equipped with the same components that you can get on a bike that's way cheaper.
That bike being $600 is incredibly confusing. Sure the frame is carbon fiber but the rest of the bike is junk. You got cheap low end parts with no-name brands on everything. The fork doesn't even have a lock out or preload adjustment. You'd really waste your money on a bike like that. The video itself is good but that bike is trash. You can get a Marlin 5 for that price which is a FAR superior bike
The Hyper E Ride 29er has the same head tube! It is 1.5 internal compatible!
I feel like they spent everything on the frame to make it carbon. At that price you are well into an entry level/budget model bike from a local bike shop, that’s not even talking about sales. To be honest, even when I’m shopping for high-end bikes I don’t really bother with carbon. you get more for your money with alloy and don’t gain anything with CF other than bragging points and maybe a pound off the scales.
I clicked on this video so hard I HOPPED IN MY CHAIR
I just got my 2007 fuel ex 7. Besides some problems with the back suspension it’s amazing. I bought it off my dads girlfriend for $250 and it’s so worth it. Also great review!! Please keep making more videos!!
Congrats!
Thanks for the review. I would of expected better at. $600. The bike falls into muy budget bracket but for that price i think you can find other better equipped bikes. But i really like your honest review. Hopefully i can get my first mountain bike soon.
I just bought this bike. It’s worth a shot. Im gonna do some uprades and see how it goes.
So...before and after finding this channel I went to Walmart and Target and took a look at bikes. I realized quickly that quality stuff will not be in Walmart. I found better quality in Target, but even at that it wasn't great, so I went to a bike shop.
I just bought this bike and I'm looking forward to seeing what type of upgrades you've done to it. Maybe I can get a few good ideas from your video since I'm a beginner MT biker, I could definitely use some guidance. Thanx and keep up your amazing work! Best of luck with everything 🙌💪
I was expecting so much more for this bike the carbon x had me so hyped so when I heard the 29 was coming out I was hoping it would be much better than the older model
thanks for the review, I have one comment and one question. I just bought one from Walmart it was 498 plus tax, and your right some of the components are a little desirable, but the geometry compared to my Giant is so much better for me, my question is can I up grade the components, like hydraulic brakes. and rear derailleur? all in all it serves my purpose just fine thanks again
Congrats. Yes, hydraulic brakes and a different rear derailleur are possible on this bike. Note that the internal cable routing will mean a profilled hydraulic kit will have to be disconnected and reconnected.
Thanks for your look at this bike, Kev, and my thought would be this seems like more than most Walmart customers would pay for a bike at Walmart. I can imagine a lot of parents getting some form of sticker shock at the price--"Six-hundred dollars, no way!" And it would seem that a low weight would be its selling point--"Wow, feel how light it is"--but that suspension fork adds a bit of heft, no? Maybe a carbon fork and a cassette would be the way to go. But I don't really know this segment of the mountain bike market and perhaps there are enough riders who will buy this for the frame and upgrade as funds permit. And I'll be watching to see what you do with it, Kev.
Kev. I'm confused. Is the 9 speed really a 14 to 42 freewheel? In the explorer videos you mentioned it as 11 to 42. I've never heard of a freewheel with such a small cog or that many speeds. I think it's truly hiding a cassette body under there and that's important for upgrading but also general reliability. The bearings on a freewheel hub are placed inwards on the drive side to accommodate a freewheel. This puts a lot of stress on the rear axle. I hate a bent axle. For me personally it's a more important difference than threaded/threadless stem and steerer tube design.
When he zooms in at 8:59 you can see the telltale freewheel shape. And if you count the teeth, it's definitely a 14 tooth small cog.
I ride a Evil 😈 and somehow I still enjoy these kind of video. Big fan of this channel. Great and honest reviews.
I like a 70-71 degree head tube for a trail bike. Slacker just handles too slow. Thanks for the review...great job.
I might order one of these and do a rigid front fork swap (and larger front cog) to turn it into an all road / gravel bike - 71deg head tube angle and clearance for 29x2.1ish is pretty similar to the Salsa Warbird and other off road road bikes currently.
I’m still looking forward to that new Al comp stage 2 with the new tapered head you should put some downhill fox forks just to see how sick the al comp would look lol
I just finished. My X R Pro upgrade
1x8 setup, carbon bar and seatpost , DNM shock, Bolany 120 mm travel fork,external BB, ,stock brakes,stock wheels but continental Race tires(tubed)
Weight : 32.4 lbs.
Could easily go down to 31-ish lbs., but no need to.
What do you think?
This is definitely nice! I never liked the original carbon X. It was released at a time when 26 in hardtails were dead. I figured they were just rebranded frames from another manufacturer, who is probably selling them for pennies on the dollar because there's no demand for 26in hardtails. But a 29er hardtail is legit.
Kev, for the same ballpark price, I would rather have the electric bicycle that you reviewed.
Some people are complaining about having to put money into the bike to make it a good bike. Some people buy 5k bikes and still put money to customize it. For a beginner light trail and light rough terrain this bike is good. This is the best value bike I have seen from big box so far. I tried looking for used but people ask way to much for 10 years old bike which may have issues.
Despite the huge Shimano logo on the frame, the only Shimano component I see I this one is the one trigger shifter. I would prefer to spend my $600 at a LBS where I will get free tuneups for life.
LBS is stupid and outdated.
UPDATES? I'm really waiting... to see what this thing can do...Thanks Kev!!!
Finally got a bike you are upgrading! Yes! I'm looking at shaving weight with a 29er air fork and probably giving it a mullet and possibly a 10 or 11 gearing if it will fit. Also hoping to go tubeless if I can find some rims and wheels.
If you ever get your hands on a Polygon Siskiu D5 I would love to see a review. I know you did the d7 but I want to see the differences. Thank you👍🏼
Kev great video. I'm thinking of buy one. Is this a Large or Medium Frame? I know that you said 17" frame on a 29 wheel set but I'm 5'7" and really don't know much on this. Thanks
If I were 5’7” I would definitely want a medium instead of a large
for 600 dollars idk if id be loving that fork
Yeah Schwinn Axum has better fork with lockout.
Off subject from the video, but... I just ordered a Canyon Neuron AL 7.0 SL this past Wednesday. Getting pretty pumped waiting for it to get delivered. Until it gets here, I just wanted to thank you for your videos. Like I stated in past comments, it all started for me with your Boundary video. Upgrading from the Boundary to the Trek Marlin 7 last spring, and now a full suspension bike! Keep on keeping on!
Its great looking & quiet but for that price I would just have to grab a trek
Yep with that price, you can get a nice Trek Marlin 6 or $50 dollars more get into a Trek Marlin 7 or X Caliber 7 and you be set. Along with you can build as you go to your specs.
If you do a bunch of upgrades on this bike, you should look into the box 4 prime nine groupset. Its cheep 150$ and 11-46
Love your reviews, especially your opinion after riding it & how it handles. Thank you greatly for making these videos.
What do you think of the Specialized Rockhopper Sport (same price as this Hyper) or the Comp at $150 more or the Trek X-Caliber 7 at just over $1,000?
Looking for my 11 year old son 4' 10 right now (12 end of December) & he fits the Men's Small Bikes.
Thanks.
I currently have the radrover which is a great bike but it is real heavy. Out of all the bikes you have reviewed which would you recommend to convert over to a mid drive ebike? I am 6’1 265 pounds. I was thinking about something for dual purpose, road and light trails when I camp.
Hey kev Are you planning to do a strip down on this as well like the 26? Am curious on the weight difference and quality difference of the carbon. Its a great looking frame though I agree for this price we should see some upgrades somewhere over the explorers
Hey Kev, thanks for another great video!
Do you think that someday you could do some reviews on a couple of the Motibecane bikes from bikeadirect?
They look really nice with good components for crazy good prices
Set of drop bars, skinnier tires, and we might have a decent gravel bike with that geometry and platform.
lmao. A drop bar mountain bike would be hilarious. Clip some aero bars on to while you're at it.
Had the same thought - swap in a rigid fork and drop bars and this would make a decent all road / gravel bike
@@KandiKlover well it ain't no mountain so no harm there.
Besides, that 7 speed freewheel hub ain't never going to have enough range to bo a real mountain bike.
No one's going to change that hub. So a tight range road gear is all it's good for. Other than that you have to change the whole bike. Might as well buy a real mtb that's upgradable. Oh, and that 71 degree head angle. Uggg. Screams road bike.
I think the better platform for gravel or road would be the older carbon x 26...
Yep, one thing you can count on with a big box bike, they're going to skimp out and give you a chain that's a couple links shorter than it needs to be in order to work properly.
The peddles are almost offensive! LOL! That was great!
Another fantastic review Kev, thanks so much. Axum or even Boundary all day long over this way over priced bike.
I've noticed that this has interchangeble rear dropouts...
This means that, in theory, you could find dropouts that match the frame and go with a thru axle, which is totally worth it for the extra stiffness...
🤫 that’s a topic for another video 😁
KevCentral project Carbon X perhaps? 😀
Spacing. QR axles are all 135mm so you'd have to go old school to 12x135 hubs instead of 142 or 148 boost of modern. They're pretty rare now. There are also some 10x135 thru axles and hubs that they used on late 1990s DH bikes that could possibly work, too.
The convertible dropouts would make it 142 mm thru axle. QR 135 mm = 142 mm thru axles. Both non boost spacing. QR 141= 148 mm thru axles. Both boost spacing. You'd need a new wheel obviously as thos hubs on the Hyper can't be converted to thru axle.
For $598 there should be a choice of frame sizes. I'm 6'3" , so the 17" frame is too small. I also agree that the steeper head tube angle on a 2020 model year bike seems like a weird choice.
I love the videos you inspired me to upgrade my bike I really appreciate what you do !
That park looks fun. Hell in Utah you have to pedal up a damn mountain to do trails.
What do you do with all these beginner bikes?
Batscat
Incidentally, Hyper also make some serious bikes and frames, similar to Diamondback's business model. They have the know-how on building a decent bike, so...
In any case, it's a nice development to see companies like this listening to the consumers, but I think this year Schwinn were more attentive to the consumer base and their experience obviously helped a lot. We won't be seeing this kind of thing from huffy or the like, but as these two race for the best bike per dollar, the other companies might follow along upon seeing the sales stats make a rapid shift in favour of more modern specs.
31 lbs is impressive for the a big box bike. It can easily be a 28 -26 lb bike by swapping out the garbage steel handle bars, fork, wheels, square taper bottom bracket and crank set, and setup the tires tubeless with the new wheel set and cassette vs free wheel. Too bad the geometry is suspect.
s14tat
That would cost more then the price of the bike.
@@BMfins alot of kevs projects double or triple the cost of the bike.
I think you forgot to mention, and it looks like it. The dropouts are changeable and can be changed to accomodate thru axle hubs
I can get a chinese carbon frame for around $250, I still think the Boundary is the best bike for the money.
Rick Sanchez where can I buy one?
@@crowbrocaw Aliexpress
Boundary FTW! I love mine.
My 2020 Boundary gets delivered tomorrow! I cannot wait!
I don't care how cheap it is. Does it hold up?
For this price range. Would the trek marlin 5 or even 6 be better
Yes and by a long shot
Wait. Did you say 31lbs for a medium carbon hardtail bike? Are the components made of iron? Interested in the frame's weight.
I like all your videos, would be nice to see you weighting all the bikes out of the box and after upgrades as well. Just a suggestion....
great video and breakdown. can you post the bike specs that Hyper sent to you, please?
Did you see the 27.5 model? Hyper Carbon X Sinister 27.5”. Interested in hearing a review on this one.
Obtained this bike for 20$ , yes twenty, from a guy who gets all the "defects" from local big box stores.. only defect I could find was where it appears the crank has rubbed on the carbon frame more then once. Looking at the video it appears you have the same gouges on the frame directly behind the crank (9 o'clock position looking at crank from chain side). Any idea how this happens? Slipping the chain ? Can't quite find an issue tbh. Thanks for any feedback
ill pay your 4x your money on the bike... ahha.. , send it to wisconsin
Here in the Philippines you can buy a 29" carbon fiber bike with SRAM SX drivetrain, Shimano hydraulic brakeset and airfork w/ remote lockout for $600 with at least 5 years warranty.
Did the price come down from the time you purchased b/c I see the same bike for $498.00 at Walmart (currently out of stock)? Does the price change affect any of your opinions?
Don't forget for some of us us Biking is our only form of transportation and we cant stay of them during lockdown, which kinda works since i got a shiny new cargo trailer for groceries since the only grocery store near me is 5 miles away.
Anny chance this Carbon X will get an upgrade run like the other?
What do you think of the Marin bobcat? I want to buy one but don’t know if it works be a good starter mountain bike. Any advice?
Things I like about this bike: 1x drive train, carbon frame, internal cable routing, disc brakes, shifter, derailer. Things I don’t like: mechanical brakes instead of hydraulic, fork, pedals. Is it worth the price? In my opinion No. although it has a lot of good stuff, it clearly lacks with their choice of fork and brakes, pedals could be easily replaced. At a sub $500 price point then it might be worth it but at $600 and some change I don’t feel like it’s a good enough value for the price
Have you seen the advent x? Seems like it be a good fit for some of your bikes
So the drawings didn't show the head tube size? Would like to know if it is capable of using a tapered steer tube.
A step up from the explorers, but kind of a let down :( Plus, what's up with that head angle & narrow bars? Could the head angle be a concern about the carbons strength? Finally, what's the savings of forgoing a NW chainring when you have to install a guide?
What's the point of having a carbon frame if the components are trash?
I'd rather settle for a alloy frame with decent components.
But do cheaper alloy frames actually come with good components? Serious question as i'm looking into buying a cheaper but decent hardtail mountain bike, i will taking it over moors but also looking to to do jumps ion it at the local bmx track so my worry is i get a half decent cheaper hardtail at £600 to 900 and the components still fail cos thats where they cheaped out?
@@kudosbudo normally if a hardtail comes with hydraulic disc brakes then that's a good indication that the other components will be adequate. If you want to step it up look for air forks (not coil) and single chain ring (less mechanical failures).
I think this is just how Walmart prices things sometimes. They will probably drop them way down in the summer, especially after all that has happened lately. It will probably be in the $350 range most of the time, which would make it much more attractive. I still am leaning towards one of the new 2020 Schwinn bikes. You made it hard to decide, after each of your videos, I said that is the one I am getting,lol. The Boundary seems to be the one I will get, but who knows. Thanks for the video. BTW, so jealous that you have some nice trails near you, I have to travel 100 miles to find anything decent around me.
Slammed stem and 120mm fork should get the position better. What is the A-C (axle to crown) on the original fork and how high is the bottom bracket without load on the bike?
Question - which would you rather: this or your Trek Dual Sport 1?
What's a good bike to buy thats a reasonable price but is really good on the trails and inclines?? Please help
How did you go by getting the drawings? I just got a carbon x and I need to know the head cup size to put this air fork in it😎
Hi Ken, love your channel, how do you find those nice trails?
Thanks. I’m lucky. They’ve been part of the area as long as I’ve been alive.
KeV best $400 mountain bike for a beginner that wants to have trail fun?! Quarantine is getting us all crazy
Hey great video. Can I ask how you removed the chain side crank? Its been a struggle. I stripped the crank , 3 jaw pull didn't work....
There is a crank puller tool available. They can be had for cheap on Amazon. And thanks
@@KevCentral thanks! What eventually worked was a thick screwdriver trick, also on here, between the attached chainwheel and the bottom bracket. I couldn't use the crank tool because the crank threads were stripped.. by me. Also with the oval chainwheel I installed, I had to loosen and readjust cable tension. It was tight and skipping gears with the oval and former gear cable tension. Thanks for your quick response and taking my posts! Happy 2021!
I'm new here to your channel. Bike channels in gen. I haven't bought a new bike since I got a fuji Roubaix in 05 to maybe 07. Commuter? I have several bikes that I will ride. My dad's first bike a 1950s Firestone, crazy heavy steel but super cool and never gettingrid of it. A Dutch union that I got in Amsterdam. My Roubaix. A 90s or 80s mongoose bought off of a homeless guy for 9$ with tons of upgrades. Some other bike i can't remember what that was a 600$ in the 80s that now only gets ridden at burning man. That mongoose is what I ride to work now and also why I want to get a new bike. I ride about 12 mi each way half dirt half paved road. I'm running slicks on the mongoose, rear saddle bags, fenders, the whole commuter 9. I was gonna get a cannondale scalpel and got talked out of it. Now I'm thinking about this, 29er. I dont do trails, I just commute and want to mix it up between this and a dual sport motorcycle. I think the upright feel would be great for commuting. Do you think I could get racks and bags on this hardtail? I don't usually carry much but when I do its nice to not have it on your back. I would even put fenders on this if possible. I just want to get to where I am going kinda dry and clean. Weather other than wind doesn't change my decisions to ride. Wind means motorcycle. What do you think solid washboard road commuter?
So hyper carbon and axum are the same price . So which one 🤔 would you buy???????
@kevcentral you know a lot about bikes Iam just getting into the sport of mountain biking. My question. Is own a giant cypress dx can it be upgraded to a mountain bike?
What would you recommend for a rider who’s 6 foot 8 inches tall. Not trying to spend a whole lot of money
Kev I heard you talk about wildwood in a previous video. Do you mean wildwood MD?
What’s the cheapest carbon fiber frame you can get to build up? I think as a builder frame, so long as it holds up, it’s a decent deal.
I would put slick road tires on it, upgrade the front crank to a 42t ring. And use it as a city bomber. It's pretty much set up for that already.
Is this worth it? It’s 500
Dollars at Walmart, would you recommend this or the shwiin Axum for the price
Walmart up here in Ontario Canada doesn t sell it in store, but they sell it on line for $719 plus $ 100 shipping to an area store. To much for us up here.
Probably just a lower limit screw adjustment to avoid those chain drops
It works fine 98% of the time. Only when I shift from 1-9 fast does it randomly drop.
Yeah, with the extra bit of inertia of the chain coming down in one go, it overshoots the last gear since the lower limit doesn't stop it. At least that is my guess, I've seen it happen before. Cheers
Edit: typo and detail