Archaeology was a bad addition.

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  • @TheFlyingCrab-e6t
    @TheFlyingCrab-e6t 2 місяці тому +13

    How do you only havee 800 subs. very good content

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +1

      Hey there is a way you can help me out with that

    • @TheFlyingCrab-e6t
      @TheFlyingCrab-e6t 2 місяці тому

      @@Datgingiboi lol im subbed

  • @Wither02
    @Wither02 2 місяці тому +12

    Archeology isn't bad. It's just disappointing.

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +2

      I agree 100%

    • @lsdeez374
      @lsdeez374 2 місяці тому

      The better Archaeology mod shows what could have been

  • @NervousDrop
    @NervousDrop 2 місяці тому +14

    I like archeology. I think it's a fun activity to do when you don't know what to do else. And pots despite thinking they could be better are still an awesome building block!

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +2

      I think archeology is okay. The thumbnail and title are dramatic so that people watch is, pots are a pretty solid decorative block, but I do think having a feature entirely based on being the thing you do when you don't know what to do is not the best thing for the longterm health of the game

  • @guest_4416
    @guest_4416 2 місяці тому +7

    All my homies love archaeology

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +2

      And I want archaeology to be improved so that your homies can love it even more

    • @real4kGaming
      @real4kGaming 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Datgingiboiall my homies love the idea of your homies supporting your idea to get jebs homies to make archeology better so OP's homies love archeology

  • @madeline1714
    @madeline1714 2 місяці тому +7

    Getting an audience of people that hate you is easy. Getting an audience that loves you is fulfilling

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +2

      Someone took archaeology too personally

    • @madeline1714
      @madeline1714 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Datgingiboi what can I say? I’m a sentimental guy

  • @AidenHere
    @AidenHere 2 місяці тому +5

    If its not bad dont hate on it. It doesnt ruin the game or anything

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      It doesn’t and the thumbnail and title are a bit dramatic, but i would like to see it improved

    • @real4kGaming
      @real4kGaming 2 місяці тому +1

      It's constructive criticism

  • @nobodyspecial9513
    @nobodyspecial9513 2 місяці тому +1

    WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DID WAS APPLY THIS TO VILLAGES. SO YOU FIND AN ANCIENT VILLAGE LIKE A MINE CHAFT. YOU DIG IT ALL OUT YOU REBUILD IT! AND THEN YOU'LL GET SPAWNED IN ANCIENT VILLAGERS! WHICH WILL OFFER YOU SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER TRADES AND ITEMS! AND ALONG THE WAY YOU GET TO USE YOUR BRUSH!

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      I like the idea of an ancient village, but I think spawning ancient villagers that are stronger would be even more broken considering how strong normal villagers are

    • @nobodyspecial9513
      @nobodyspecial9513 2 місяці тому

      @@Datgingiboi look man I've been playing the game a long time. And there were no more broken of a villagers then there was before the villager update... If anything it is significantly harder to find a villager to give you the best trades. I'm saying keep the villager the way it was! And then make a more difficult villager to obtain a really really good stuff!

    • @nobodyspecial9513
      @nobodyspecial9513 2 місяці тому

      @@Datgingiboi that would be a true archaeological update.

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +1

      @@nobodyspecial9513 I've been playing minecraft for a long time too and I'm saying that those villagers would be too strong. If they're already strong in base ancient villagers would be even more busted. And pre village and pillage villagers couldn't have thier trades changed with a block. You'd have to slaughter soooo many villagers to get what you wanted in old versions, but they were defintely still strong back then

  • @theoriginalvivian
    @theoriginalvivian 2 місяці тому +9

    I think archaeology is great, not every update is going to be for you, you know? Some people play the game just to build pretty bases, so updates like Village & Pillage, the Nether Update, and Caves & Cliffs only have a couple features they will like to use, like the lanterns, blackstone, and new plants
    It would not be very fair if you could spawn in and go to these new archaeology structures and get lots of rare and valuable items, but instead you get very nice cosmetics. What is wrong with that? They made an update for builders, not one for great lucrative journeys, and sometimes that is okay
    Because the update right after they dropped the best combat structure in the game 🔥🔥🔥

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +2

      I agree not every update is for everyone, and I actually suggested multiple cosmetic style items to be added, and I actually suggested improving the cosmetic items from the structure that are already in the game, and I consider myself a builder style player as I have 2 survival series that prove that. Secondly villages are more common than trial ruins and all it takes is lectern and you can eventually gurantee you have a mending book. The main problem with not every update being for me is the fact that they take around a year to develop so I'm just supposed to play a game for 4 years until I see an update that is "for me" no each update should have something for everybody.

  • @TerraPixeloffical
    @TerraPixeloffical 2 місяці тому +4

    Someone should mod this fr

  • @TheGreatOwlMaster
    @TheGreatOwlMaster 2 місяці тому

    I find archeology to be a really inoffensive feature so I don't mind how useless it is, though the ideas brought up were quite good. Here's a few other ideas I had:
    - Bring back the sniffer berry vines from the leak. I feel like they would make for a really good decoration in builds, similar to glow lichen. Maybe you could harvest the berries and eating them could give an exclusive effect, to make them have a functional use
    - Add some sort of new weapon. It could be in trail ruins or a new structure. My idea would be a dagger, which would work like swords used to pre-1.9, but with less damage (it would play into the "meta history", like the old texture blocks suggested in the video)
    - Add archeology to more structures, where it makes sense. Jungle temples and ruined portals would be a good start, and maybe adding a nether structure with archeology could be cool too

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      Nether archaegology is a really good idea but a dagger with not cool down I think could have the potentional to be VERY strong, and mojang wouldn't want to add it becase they feel very negativly about pre 1.9 combat. Adding the vines back would help a bit

  • @lailaahmed580
    @lailaahmed580 2 місяці тому

    I oppose adding specific enchantments to trail ruins because oh my goodness are they impossible to find intentionally. Spent well over 3 hours searching for one by elytra because I am trying to find all the armor trims (only got 3/4 from the ruin so have to find another one 💀)

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +1

      Try looking in jungles. They're spawns are biome specific and in jungles their red terracotta stands out a lot against the green.

  • @beyez
    @beyez 2 місяці тому +3

    Carful with that statment. You might summon the miniminuteman

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      Pfft what does he know about archaeology

    • @beyez
      @beyez 2 місяці тому

      @@Datgingiboi oh oh. Its too late. He is coming for you

  • @obsidian_citadel437
    @obsidian_citadel437 2 місяці тому

    I enjoyed the feature. The Trail Ruins are meant to have unimpressive loot, that’s what makes the good stuff better to find.
    I do agree I’m sick of seeing the wooden hoe in EVERY Ocean Ruin…
    I think the pots themselves are a decent feature in no way a bad thing.
    Could they be a bit improved? Yes. But they aren’t a worthless thing. They added storage capabilities to em in 1.20.20!
    Sniffers are my favorite feature of the update other than more plants I say it’s a perfectly implemented mob. I like the integration in archeology more than just finding it in a chest

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      I don't understand how you someones favorite mob in the update is the sniffer, when its bascially an overgrown cow that gives you two plant flower seeds

    • @obsidian_citadel437
      @obsidian_citadel437 2 місяці тому

      @@Datgingiboi I like the concept and design a lot! A bit more than the execution. Reviving an extinct species is a really cool premise (that’s why it won the majority of the mob vote along with heavy rumors that the update was gonna be revolve around archeology) and how it’s implemented with the archeology mechanics making archeology more enjoyable.
      Anything sounds lame when you boil down a mobs name like that “walking item frame” or “underground wandering trader” the appeal of it and the name-calling of these other mobs won it the vote
      Like I said adding more plants would’ve made it a whole lot better. I normally don’t care for mods but the Sniffer+ mod is probably the best thing that could be implemented for it without overcrowding it with unnecessary features.

  • @CrystaleRBX
    @CrystaleRBX 2 місяці тому +1

    It's not necessarily a bad a addition. I just wish it had more features built upon it. Let's take the sniffer. Why on earth would I go out of my way to find a lukewarm/warm ocean and wait for a long time just to get an egg that gives me 2 flowers that look stupid. I'm not one of the people who thinks every addition needs to aid you in killing the dragon but it should seriously have more of a use than just bad decoration. Imagine if the smithing table required a new form of metal that could be obtained my combining iron with some sort of ancient plant fiber. Now with actual archeology, I wish it had way more features you can only find with archeology. Almost every archeology item with the exclusions of armor trims, sherds, the sniffer egg, and the relic disc is something you can obtain outside of archeology which makes it underwhelming and not something I want to actively do. While I get a wooden hoe or a brick can be good for lore reasons or to help with the connection, it just feels a little... stupid. Imagine chopping a tree and you get sticks, bugs, and sap doing so. while its realistic and makes sense, it feels unnecessary and too extra.
    TLDR: archeology should be something I want to actively do and not waste my time.

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      Come to think of it I think when you chop down trees there should be a 1% chance it drops a birds nest which can be crafted into 3 sticks

  • @reggo_309
    @reggo_309 2 місяці тому +2

    I feel like what you want is a feature to get objects and progress in the game, but archeology ist supposed to be that. Archeology was created for exploration, and the pottery shards are simple for the players to create their own designs and stories. Having this features help minecraft, they make the game fun for everyone and less monotone.

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +1

      Archaeology doesn’t incentivize exploration is it’s incentivizes are bad, I want archaeology to be a good feature by improving what little already exists

    • @Shr3dd3r2k8
      @Shr3dd3r2k8 2 місяці тому +1

      I just wish the shards could be duplicated.

  • @nobodyspecial9513
    @nobodyspecial9513 2 місяці тому

    For real! There's no way to find it actually in game unless you stumble upon it. And happen to have a brush in your inventory... And then once you dig it all out the rewards not that great...

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      At least brushes aren't too terribly hard to get only requirng a copper ingot and feather, but its nearly a waste of your time

  • @ar2chokie254
    @ar2chokie254 2 місяці тому +1

    You lost me at "The torchflower and pitcher plant are mid at best" like are we being serious dude?

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      I’m serious I posted a tier list and everything. Neon blue isn’t a good color

    • @ditto4080
      @ditto4080 2 місяці тому +2

      Good there are torchflower and pitcher plant defenders

    • @ar2chokie254
      @ar2chokie254 2 місяці тому

      @@Datgingiboi honestly ill give you the fact pitcher plant isnt very nice, but torchflower is the most pretty flower in the game its soo colorful

  • @whitemagus2000
    @whitemagus2000 2 місяці тому

    I really wish the sniffer plants did something. Like the torch flowers producing light and the pitcher plants maybe repelling creepers like a cat. It would certainly make me want to plant these things all over the place instead of torches.

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      Repelling creepers would actually be pretty good. I wonder if there would be any way to incorporate their pitcher pot nature eating and slowly digesting something in a way that is useful

  • @Lefty7788tinkatolli
    @Lefty7788tinkatolli 2 місяці тому

    I wouldn't say Archaeology is a bad idea. It's just... well... as you described it, undercooked. It could be SO much more. But in its current state, it is not fun, and it is very unrewarding. It's almost like they tried so hard to emulate real archaeology they forgot Minecraft is a GAME.

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      Yes, but I wouldn't even call it a good imitation of real world archaeology

  • @Spudnik007
    @Spudnik007 2 місяці тому +15

    bro... it's just a feature that isn't even bad
    edit: y'all need to get over yourselves sheesh

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +6

      For a feature basically being focused on for an entire year with its on major update it really sucked. But I do have to exaggerate for click bait. People don’t watch moderate content. Only the extremes

    • @Spudnik007
      @Spudnik007 2 місяці тому +6

      @@DatgingiboiU still don't need to clickbait and just because it didn't come with lots of other things doesn't make it bad.

    • @CheffMeaty
      @CheffMeaty 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Spudnik007 1 he didn't clickbait he just made a video, and 2 compare this the updates mojang was putting out before they were bought out, after huge polls and many other videos, this update has just angered the community more then making the game better, and to make ends worse, this entire update was based off a f#king mod.

    • @Spudnik007
      @Spudnik007 2 місяці тому +1

      @@CheffMeaty I didn't say he click baited he did so i said you don't need to clickbait and it's still just a good feature

    • @Litch016
      @Litch016 2 місяці тому +3

      When you take a step back and look at how long archeology was suggested, teased, and finally "added" (being delayed for 3 years, being suggested and teased for 10), you really do realize how much of a let down it was.

  • @alexbluer
    @alexbluer 2 місяці тому +4

    I dont get how people just saying that archeology is good, like if you like it thats ok. But archeology is barely a feature in Minecraft, it doesnt have a lot of mechanics, they are hard to find, the loot is terrible, the customization is lacking and the sniffer is barely a mob.
    What you are suggesting are actually good changes i think that even you can implement part of the archeology on other structures that can have their own loot. For example you can find the dragon for your pottery inside of the Minecraft end dungeon. You can find some suspicious gravel in the woodland mansion that have pottery about the warden, etc.
    An like you said inolementing other customization options that you can find doing archeology makes it better and giving more places to find it would make more players to interact with it

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +1

      I think a lot of people defend mojang because of the sentiment it may not be for me but maybe it’s for someone else, but that someone else never comes. I also think people defend mojang because they’re tired of seeing their favorite game attacked

    • @alexbluer
      @alexbluer 2 місяці тому

      @@Datgingiboi I understand the feeling, some people really give so much shit to mojang for things that they cannot control, mostly because the parity bedrock (that lets be real is harder to code because they have to optimize so every plataform can run minecraft). Yet some of the complains are actually real, like how some updates are good and the game needs it yet they have the problem that they dont expand the game and every new feature is so isolated that sometimes it feels more like a small mod rather than an update

  • @thatonemayor
    @thatonemayor 2 місяці тому

    In the time Arcaeology has been released, I have not used it once, and have honest to god completely forgotten it even existed. You could remove it, and people wouldn't notice a thing.

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      People would complain a lot if you removed it regardless of wether or not they actually used the feature, but you are right about the features quality

  • @joshea7861
    @joshea7861 2 місяці тому +1

    Liked and Subscribed

  • @Eliza-rg4vw
    @Eliza-rg4vw 2 місяці тому

    As someone who adores Trail Ruins, I got quite a lot to say about Archeology.
    Specifically, trail ruins are my favourite structure in the game. This is mostly because they feel very different in how they're played. It's not difficult in the traditional way, but some suspicious gravel spawns high up, or suspended in the air. If you dont have proper lighting, the suspicious gravel can more easily blend in too. These make it pretty easy to accidentally break suspicious gravel- and thereby whatever loot was inside.
    I don't really take points about loot for archeology super seriously, tbh. Archaeology is, in effect, loot chests but different. If the loot is bad, thats not really archeology's fault. They could include crafting parts for a new machine, or weapon, etc. and they just didn't- but that applies to all loot chests too.
    What i like about archeology is how it makes the environembt play a lot more into what you do there. Watching the ceiling & lighting are important in trail ruins. Managing your air bubbles is important in the ocean ruins. Neither of these things pressure the life of your character too much, but do still provide some good level of strategy that I think archeology enjoys very much.
    Some spaces, like the Desert Well & Temple don't really have as much of these difficulties, which I'd like, but I dont think they're required either. Also like loot chests, some are allowed to be basically free, and that's OK.
    As a side note, Bundles will complement much of archeology's current loot tables extraordinarily well- many of the decorative components stack to 64, which meshes nicely with bundles. This may not always be the case, but it's nice while it is.
    I think they could lean harder into the being careful part of it though. Having a buried structure with say, moving parts could easily shatter some gravel/sand and provide even more of a different challenge than even the trail ruins.

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      I like the trial ruins as a structure in theory and I enjoy the feeling of unearthing this large structure and speculating on what it could've been, but I"d almost rather just ignore the suspicious gravel and destroy it because things like magenta stained glass panes aren't worth my time. I'm not asking for a weapon or anything out of theme with the feature. I just want more depth added to the exsiting parts.

  • @Zervmemes
    @Zervmemes 2 місяці тому

    It added a new mechanic you can do that adds up to Minecraft. Add 1 or 2 tiny mechanics every year and the game would be drowning in content.

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +1

      I don’t think Minecraft has a drowning in content problem. It has a LOT of content, but a lot of the content needs drastic improvements and I want Mojang to improve it that’s why I’m suggesting improvements not additional features

  • @GamingGeek_X
    @GamingGeek_X 2 місяці тому +7

    Is Mojang lazy, or the updates are just hard to code?

    • @smokinator8783
      @smokinator8783 2 місяці тому +5

      Honestly it’s a bit of both, The coding is pretty hard to code but they know how to do it, but the employees are so lazy they just don’t care enough. Another major factor, i like to spread false information across the internet.

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +2

      Eh the java edition is because were dealing with Notch's spaghetti code and they have to code for 2 versions bedrock and java. I don't think mojang is lazy just bloated and inefficent

    • @mepphin
      @mepphin 2 місяці тому

      Updating is easy only when the update is potato related

    • @GamingGeek_X
      @GamingGeek_X 2 місяці тому

      Okay, Thanks!

  • @ditto4080
    @ditto4080 2 місяці тому

    You also get the relic disc, even just for that it's rewarding. If you think about it archaeology is quite a genius feature, from my own experiences I've found its hard to be motivated to build something or just make any landmark or sign that I did something in my world. Most of my hours and progress on that world are to be found in my chests. This is an annoying habit since I do find great pleasure and satisfaction seeing things I built, if I come across a trail ruin I will dig it up because I wanna get the cool disc and armor trims to add to my chests and inadvertently I find myself having set up a little base with chests for the random trash I've found and a ladder to get down into the stupid hole in the ground that I dug. Now that random place in the forest has become a landmark and a small base.
    I think archaeology is just one of those features that is there to disctract you from things like "beating the game" and getting the best armor like so many youtubers making "why minecraft isn't *blank* anymore " videos seem to think. Minecraft usually stops being fun when you have your perfect armor and tools. It only starts getting fun when you start building and actually giving you're world some personality.
    Great video by the way, you have really solid editing.

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for the compliment on my editing, I think of it as bad but appreciate the support nonetheless. I think people who get the best armor and stuff often struggle because they want minecraft to be a survival game with objective progress. Something more similar to terraria, I just wish if mojang was gonna have a major update surronding one feature it could have more depth. I think archaeology could be a lot better with more work, and thats all im advocating for

  • @CreeperTheLord
    @CreeperTheLord 2 місяці тому

    You deserve over a million subs

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      well you can help with that

  • @davidcolen3231
    @davidcolen3231 2 місяці тому +4

    why dis editing go so hard🔥🔥🔥

    • @smokinator8783
      @smokinator8783 2 місяці тому +1

      because it’s the one and only datgingiboi

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      took way too long

  • @madeline1714
    @madeline1714 2 місяці тому +1

    500 views with 17 likes. Lmao

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      I appreciate all support even if I got one like I would appreciate it

    • @smokinator8783
      @smokinator8783 2 місяці тому

      @@madeline1714 where’s ur 500 views and 17 likes

    • @madeline1714
      @madeline1714 2 місяці тому +1

      @@smokinator8783 on my alt account

  • @DownShiftDrew
    @DownShiftDrew 2 місяці тому +2

    Most of the “crap” they have been adding is bad… like what’s the point of the sniffer?? Can we get like a Minecart revamp? Add different track options, movable tracks stuff like that!

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      Idk what you mean by movable tracks you can toggle tracks using red stone not sure how much movable you want. Also fundamentally Mine carts will nearly always be trumped by elytra/Ice boat highways. On the positive side there new experimental changes are helping

    • @wildsamsam4840
      @wildsamsam4840 2 місяці тому +1

      for real they just keep adding stuff without proper optimization or anything, updates fell off 1.16

  • @ya_hya
    @ya_hya 2 місяці тому

    i like this video

  • @davidmingle5910
    @davidmingle5910 2 місяці тому +4

    Archaeology is boring and uninteresting. Why do people defend this? you travel a long way, to brush a block for an annoyingly long time for a worthless reward. People make amazing mods that genuinely improve the game in a quarter of the time it takes Mojang to make an update. Not to say that all the updates are bad, although some are (the cliffs half of caves and cliffs).

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому +1

      I agree but I do prefer the cliffs part of caves and cliffs because it affects the surface which is where I spend a VAST majority of my time. Nearly every biomes generation changed after that update

    • @HobGobbity
      @HobGobbity 2 місяці тому

      If you just want overpowered items then don’t go to dig sites, they are completely optional.
      The Sniffer is entirely optional and is meant for decorative building flowers and to get a nicely colored dinosaur, the loot in archeology is meant to make sense (you can make a story or history based on what you find, I find things and that’s how I repair ancient trails correctly.) and contains armor trims and pottery. Both of those are optional customization things that just make the game cooler. Archeology is great for what it is, the only thing I want with it is some more stuff to dig up and explore. It’s plenty interesting, it’s great for exploring the underground trail and finding out what was used for what.
      Mojang updates are a once a year large update, any more than that and the game would be overcrowded and people would complain that it wasn’t “Minecraft enough”. They have a vision for the game and are doing what they do to fit that.

  • @reaox7917
    @reaox7917 2 місяці тому

    doesnt need to be said

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      Got to make videos about something

  • @Goose-Milk
    @Goose-Milk 2 місяці тому +1

    W VID

  • @teodordjuric6323
    @teodordjuric6323 2 місяці тому +1

    Now someone should make Better Than Pots

    • @Datgingiboi
      @Datgingiboi  2 місяці тому

      Just waiting for someone to add the new and improved mojang mod

  • @Zenzermc
    @Zenzermc 2 місяці тому

    Yo, i was wondering if you want to join my SMP it has not started and im getting small content creators