It’s just disgusting. It’s like people need a massive tragedy on a ww2 scale to remind themselves of what fascism means, or slavery, or awaiting extirpation. I’d say at least 60-70% of the world’s population are extremely lazy scholars, and thus simply follow without taking the lead. So they’ll make excuses for human trafficking because if their bah-ble says it’s ok….and uncle Bob says it’s ok…then it’s ok. 🤦🏽
That's caused by echo chambers. Their friends, family, pastors, priests etc. all tell them how great the evidence for their faith is, that people who don't believe simply haven't heard "the word" properly explained yet. They actually believe their arguments are worth something, instead of being a deep pit of fallacies, emotional reasoning and circularity.
I also do find it curious that there are so many thinking there's this book that their God has inspired and yet they can't be arsed to read it. That's wild to me.
Me before the video: “There’s no way a God-fearing Christian could ever condone slavery.” Me after the video: “Bro just hit me with ‘slavery is actually biblical’ like it was a life hack. 😳🤦🏻”
I wonder if the caller would be willing to be someone's slave under biblical law? If he doesn’t have a problem with biblical slavery then he shouldn't have a problem with being a slave himself!
Isn’t it unbelievable that to this day people in general will defend human trafficking. And these are seemingly good people. Like you wouldn’t think this guy whom Justin is speaking with, is a bad guy. But….he’s willing to overlook a young 15 year old getting brought into a room screaming for help ready to be raped by her kidnapper who thinks he owns her. Does this make him a bad man or a good man? I’m not ready to call this guy a bad man, though 100% he is living in ignorance which has shut down his humanity, his integrity, his BASIC level of what being a civilised human being is versus to what an animal feels or how it thinks. I just think people like this lack the intelligence to perhaps empathise or at least put themselves into the place of a kidnapped human being under threat of torture and a hanging. So I’m willing to believe this guy isn’t a psychopath, just really ignorant.
I just wrote a long rebuttal to this Bible and slaves. BIBLE does not condone American slavery. In the greek it is workers not what we think of slaves......what i want to know my comment was civil and had no bad words...no hate. But it immediately got deleted.....WHY?????
This caller should start out his apologetics by saying, “In my opinion.” He clearly isn’t thinking as he states he is. I see it now because before I deconstructed I tried to excuse this god’s behavior. Pew pew.😉
@exceptionallyaverage3075 For the Chattel slavery , YES. NOT for the stolen wage labor.There are two kinds of slavery in the Bible AND in modern times!!! There are LAWS AGAINST slavery AND there are examples OF slavery in the Bible. There are NO laws REQUIRING slavery!!! Many of the Bible stories do NOT paint a GOOD picture of the people who are supposed to be worshipers of YAHWEH. They OFTEN rebel, disobey and are plain false worshipers. It is a historical record of the good AND the bad.
@endofdaysprophet According to the christian supstitionist fairy-tale book, their so-called god regulated slavery and mandated taking little girls as sex slaves. Slavery was specifically allowed in both books.
God never commanded us to have slaves. He simply allowed it because its our choice and our mistake to learn from. When your gf cheats on you you dont tie her up to prevent her from cheating again. You give her chances to learn from her mistakes and part ways if need be. Thats the point about slavery in the Bible. God allows us to make our own choices. Even those who blaspheme have the choice to do so but the consequences are our own. My opinion is take what is beneficial to your life from the bible if you dont believe in it. Understand that it's telling us how life used to be and not telling us to live like the people in it. But go follow commandments that are beneficial to our life and others. The new testament has simple rules. Love thy neighbor. Forgive. Do not lie or steal. Do not kill etc. If someone wrote a movie like Django where horrible things happen in the movie because it's based off of history does that mean the guy who made the movie is sick? No. It means that he tried to paint a picture of what it used to be like.
More reality denial because the actual words in the book hurt your feelings so much. The book literally talks about slaves. Why do you need to lie si much on behalf of a gid thing that supposedly commands you not to lie. Do you really not understand how ridiculous your ‘argument’ is?@@JamesLehman-o5u
uuuuuppp... I haven't read any Bible the number of times that he has. I am a moron, in any comparison at least on this subject. I will roll over and expose my belly on this, and I know so much that the majority of people here don't ... and you are the top of the top and can tell me many things I am ignorant of. Let's talk if you are them. Yet, on topic, this is nonsense. Read your own book(s) Christians! It's a moral test. In the front! Try and pass it! Specifically: What was the point -- morally of the Garden of Eden? Walk me through it. Preach...but bring the evidence. Do not. Don't. Just stop looking over your shoulder to crib the wrong answers. Think! It's not that hard!
it's crazy how they literally agree with every premise, understand the logical conclusion and STILL justify it. absolutely ridiculous
*attempt to justify it
It’s just disgusting.
It’s like people need a massive tragedy on a ww2 scale to remind themselves of what fascism means, or slavery, or awaiting extirpation.
I’d say at least 60-70% of the world’s population are extremely lazy scholars, and thus simply follow without taking the lead.
So they’ll make excuses for human trafficking because if their bah-ble says it’s ok….and uncle Bob says it’s ok…then it’s ok.
🤦🏽
"You've got to remember who wrote Kings"
"I don't know who wrote Kings"
@@iank2615 . Bullshit and bluster is basically the whole game
God is always omnipotent and self sufficient, until he's not
Which is all the time!😂😂
@godsire6217 😆
"god would never intervene in battle." Jeezus when will these types get even a basic grasp of their own dam mythology!?
Caller: God needs slaves.
Caller: God doesn't need slaves.
Repeat incessantly as if you're somehow making sense.
Maybe God was just the slaves we made along the way 🤔🤔
lol
It's so wild that theists always want to debate despite not being good at it.
And never having bothered to read their book
That's caused by echo chambers. Their friends, family, pastors, priests etc. all tell them how great the evidence for their faith is, that people who don't believe simply haven't heard "the word" properly explained yet.
They actually believe their arguments are worth something, instead of being a deep pit of fallacies, emotional reasoning and circularity.
Theism and a lack of self awareness go hand in hand.
@@nicciswainhi100%
All they are, are echoes of some else’s ideology and are too weak-minded to break away from the social bullshittery
It never ceases to amaze how they never fail to be ready with a reason / excuse / absurdity in defense of their delusions.
You have an awesome show!!!!!
And his morals are better than ours??
Gotta lie for Jeebus!!
😂😂😂
He asks, "what verse?" because of course another theist who will not read the bible!!!!!
I also do find it curious that there are so many thinking there's this book that their God has inspired and yet they can't be arsed to read it. That's wild to me.
@@MarcusW8
Four in five people aren't capable of introspection, it shows
@@MarcusW8The Nazis would love modern theists. They're always willing to follow orders, especially from a priest
Me before the video: “There’s no way a God-fearing Christian could ever condone slavery.”
Me after the video: “Bro just hit me with ‘slavery is actually biblical’ like it was a life hack. 😳🤦🏻”
Slavery is biblical though. Everyone else is just pretending that part isn't there.
Well their God condones slavery so it shouldn't really be too hard for them to do it.
Christianity is based on fear, psychological manipulation.
It's kind of a requirement to be god fearing.
I wonder if the caller would be willing to be someone's slave under biblical law? If he doesn’t have a problem with biblical slavery then he shouldn't have a problem with being a slave himself!
My name is Peter which means “rock”, I am in Doug, all glory to Doug in his rockiness.
This is a great example of morality being subjective and relative
Just say 'Might is Right' and stop dancing around it.
Isn’t it unbelievable that to this day people in general will defend human trafficking. And these are seemingly good people.
Like you wouldn’t think this guy whom Justin is speaking with, is a bad guy. But….he’s willing to overlook a young 15 year old getting brought into a room screaming for help ready to be raped by her kidnapper who thinks he owns her. Does this make him a bad man or a good man?
I’m not ready to call this guy a bad man, though 100% he is living in ignorance which has shut down his humanity, his integrity, his BASIC level of what being a civilised human being is versus to what an animal feels or how it thinks.
I just think people like this lack the intelligence to perhaps empathise or at least put themselves into the place of a kidnapped human being under threat of torture and a hanging.
So I’m willing to believe this guy isn’t a psychopath, just really ignorant.
Slavery is unjustifiable when taking unnecessary suffering into account. No way around it.
I would've just dropped the call if I was him. This is so embarrassing, not just for the caller, but for all Christians.
The bible advocates slavery.
Among other things....
Be embarrassed about THAT.
Most people are not honest... the simplest questions trip em up easily...especially yes ir no questions
When the hamster falls off the wheel...410 approx.
😮😮😮😮😮😮
"God doesn't intervene like that."
"There are instances where God intervenes."
😂😂
This dude has MAJOR cognitive dissonance. There is never justification for slavery. He would completely change his mind if he were the slave.
I just wrote a long rebuttal to this Bible and slaves. BIBLE does not condone American slavery. In the greek it is workers not what we think of slaves......what i want to know my comment was civil and had no bad words...no hate. But it immediately got deleted.....WHY?????
Justin you cooked yourself. They needed slaves to bury all the dead from the angel rampages
You would think that god could provide his spokespersons better arguments to those speaking on his behalf
EXT. HEAVEN- DAY.
GOD
I wish these dizzy
bastards would quit
trying to help.
God has the power to win in everything. God allows everything for a reason. God doesn't need anything or anyone!
Adorable but false
God? What's "God"?
If God doesn’t intervene, then why do people pray to have him intervene?
This caller should start out his apologetics by saying, “In my opinion.” He clearly isn’t thinking as he states he is.
I see it now because before I deconstructed I tried to excuse this god’s behavior. Pew pew.😉
You should look up the legal definition of EMPLOYEE IN THE U.S.!!!
LOL. You're going to try to equate biblical slavery with employment in the US, aren't you?
@exceptionallyaverage3075 For the Chattel slavery , YES. NOT for the stolen wage labor.There are two kinds of slavery in the Bible AND in modern times!!! There are LAWS AGAINST slavery AND there are examples OF slavery in the Bible. There are NO laws REQUIRING slavery!!! Many of the Bible stories do NOT paint a GOOD picture of the people who are supposed to be worshipers of YAHWEH. They OFTEN rebel, disobey and are plain false worshipers. It is a historical record of the good AND the bad.
@endofdaysprophet According to the christian supstitionist fairy-tale book, their so-called god regulated slavery and mandated taking little girls as sex slaves. Slavery was specifically allowed in both books.
Ha!
@@endofdaysprophetWhy didn't God command his people not to own slaves?
I know I'm British and all, but what on earth is a pew-pew?
God never commanded us to have slaves. He simply allowed it because its our choice and our mistake to learn from. When your gf cheats on you you dont tie her up to prevent her from cheating again. You give her chances to learn from her mistakes and part ways if need be. Thats the point about slavery in the Bible. God allows us to make our own choices. Even those who blaspheme have the choice to do so but the consequences are our own. My opinion is take what is beneficial to your life from the bible if you dont believe in it. Understand that it's telling us how life used to be and not telling us to live like the people in it. But go follow commandments that are beneficial to our life and others. The new testament has simple rules. Love thy neighbor. Forgive. Do not lie or steal. Do not kill etc. If someone wrote a movie like Django where horrible things happen in the movie because it's based off of history does that mean the guy who made the movie is sick? No. It means that he tried to paint a picture of what it used to be like.
Just because it's in the bible, doesn't mean that God condoned it.
What about when God himself gives the rules under which slavery operates?
@iank2615 are you talking about servants? If you are, being a servant wasn't considered slavery, it was considered an honor.
@@JamesLehman-o5u If I was talking about servants, I'd have said servant. God laid out the rules for slavery pretty clearly.
Even when it literally condoned it? Seriously? Yet another reality denier!
More reality denial because the actual words in the book hurt your feelings so much. The book literally talks about slaves. Why do you need to lie si much on behalf of a gid thing that supposedly commands you not to lie. Do you really not understand how ridiculous your ‘argument’ is?@@JamesLehman-o5u
uuuuuppp...
I haven't read any Bible the number of times that he has.
I am a moron, in any comparison at least on this subject. I will roll over and expose my belly on this, and I know so much that the majority of people here don't ... and you are the top of the top and can tell me many things I am ignorant of. Let's talk if you are them.
Yet, on topic, this is nonsense. Read your own book(s) Christians!
It's a moral test. In the front! Try and pass it!
Specifically: What was the point -- morally of the Garden of Eden? Walk me through it. Preach...but bring the evidence.
Do not. Don't. Just stop looking over your shoulder to crib the wrong answers. Think! It's not that hard!