The reason there was a grey wire commoned with the positive was for the total coin counter function. The other grey counter wire pulls down to the negative rail via a transistor to click round a mechanical counter connected between the two grey wires. It's a function that is included for professional gaming machines where there is a requirement to keep a permanent log of coins for duty/accounting purposes. The pulse output is for the logic board, Arduino or MAME interface.
My counter is set up for a jukebox using a relay which sends the pulses to the computer via USB,my problrm is the sofftware cant pick up all the pulses even though i have it set on slow,any idea what is happening
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@@aughanure1 i think on of your 'converter' elements is to slow.. the relay - if it is a mechanical one - can be really slow... and so misses the pulses.. also the software - if the way / input you are using is not meant for fast pulses from another electronic it eventually things the pulses are bounces from a switch and filters them out... lots of things that can go wrong here...
Thank you for your video. I am a arcade machine vendor and I usually deal with pool tables, jukeboxes etc Recently I bought a taito cocktail machine and I bought this very same coin acceptor to use in my machine on location and this coin acceptor fitted very easily on the machine. It's very handy to have a multi coin acceptor instead of the old macanical coin acceptor that only takes one coin. I just didn't understand the instructions that came with this coin acceptor. Thanks again for your help.
Thank you my friend. I don't know anything about electronics and I've been trying to install this in an arcade for 3 years. And this is because a "Brazilian guy" explains it all in an impressively complicated way (it never worked that way). As explained here, it's simple and... IT WORKS. Thank you very much.
I got my coin acceptor to work using your video! My PCB had a three pin layout for each button. In case someone else has a similar setup, I had to move the white (coin) and grey (counter) wires around on those pins before I found a combination that worked: One went to ground and the other to the pin next to ground. Thanks again for your video!
you my friend just saved me a ton of headaches! gotta love the Chinese to English manual instructions NUMBERICAL???? HAHAHA! also one minor thing I noticed was that you don't want to have the multi-meter leads connected to the counter and coin wires when you are sampling the coins. Doing so caused me to get "0" on the counts and then I would need to power off the unit and redo the procedure. Leaving the multimeter disconnected until it was programmed solved this issue for me. Hope this helps someone else out, Thanks for the video!
An excellent tutorial, mate. I never thought I'd get my head around it but you made it nice and simple. My Game Elf cabinet is now accepting coins. Thank you so much!
Thanks for this vid dude, got that exact model of coin acceptor coming in the post..! If anyone (especially in the UK) is looking for a USB controller suitable for this kind of device, may I suggest the Player X PCB, easy to set up, made in sheffield, and inexpensive- i have 4.
hello, have you noticed that this coin acceptor kills some USB boards? Mine sometimes work and than not. Der ist some Current on the Acceptor wires and different current on the USB Board. One board went dead with ghost inputs on the other all buttons besides the ones i plugged in are not responding anymore. In all i tried the Acceptor.
Thank you so much. I have a somewhat different model (accepts six different coins, no need to switch off after initial setup / before sampling), but without you would have had no idea, where to connect my USB-Joystick-Adapter or program this thing!
Thanks for the video eldon226. I have 2 coin acceptors and 1 12v power supply. My question is, can I power the 2 coin acceptors with 1 power supply? If so, how? Can i connect the 2 positive wires together and the 2 negative wires together into the power supply? Or do I need some kind of Y-spliter?
Really Great video (much better than mine) I will point to yours for further info in my old one. I never knew how to set up multiple different coins, until now I only could use 50p for one pulse, now I have £1 for two pulses. Cheers
Hi Eldon! Thanks for the clear instruction! I had no clue without this and only the manual. The only problem I hav is that I tried plastic coins that we would like to use but are not registered by the meter. Do you have a suggestion? Which coins could be used?
You can use any type of coin, they could be real or fake, the material they are made from doesn’t matter either. Just make sure whatever coins you decide to use are not so large that they can’t fit and not so light that they don’t have enough momentum to roll through the slot. You’ll need to program the coin acceptor to whatever coin you want to use.
Sometimes my coin acceptor goes crazy causing the usb encoder to fail. When I unplug the coin acceptor the usb encoder works fine. Seems to be that the coin acceptor iis sending electricity to my usb encoder. Any idea?
You should test the wires coming from the coin acceptor going to the usb encoder using a voltmeter, you should not be getting any voltage from them. Also test them using continuity function, those wire should act as a momentary switch , meaning they should just close momentarily and then go back to normally open. You’ll need to add coins to do these test.
@@eldon226 Thanks for the response! For some reason my usb encoder works with the coin accpetor on NC mode, the problem with the NC mode is that it sends a constant pulse to the usb encoder. When i use the NO mode sometimes works and sometimes makes the usb encoder go crazy. I read that some people use a zener diode to regulate the pulse, according to these people the coin accpetor sends voltage to the usb encoder. The only difference I have with your setup is that mny usb encoder connectors havew 3 pins, one of them is for iluminate the buttons, but I am not using that wire. Maybe there is something wrong in my setup or my coin acceptor is defective.
@@gasabbath my assumption is that you have a faulty coin acceptor or a different model than I used, not sure how I can help apart from suggesting you try a new one
Hi Eldon. We recently started using the device as a timer. It worked for 2 days, but then stopped working. The timer/counter still works, but there is no power coming to the socket (UK). We want to use it as a timer for a washing machine (NL/EU plug). We need to use it with a UK-EU adapter. Specially bought a grounded one for this purpose. So now no power. With another adapter you can see that there is some (too low) current on the USB port, see blue light in the photo. For example, it is possible to charge your phone with this, but not via the regular plug (white). What is wrong? I have already removed the plug from the holder to check the connections properly, that seems fine now, but it still doesn't work. Could I get in contact with you for suggestions?
I’m not sure how I can help you with this, I’m not an expert with this product. The only thing I know to do with it is what I’ve shown in my video. If it was doing what you wanted for two days I’d suggest maybe getting a new one to at least verify that your connections are good and your old item is faulty.
@@widearchshark3981 no, that’s because the coin acceptor is interfacing with the controller as a switch. It’s not sending voltage, just opening and closing a circuit. Just like any other button that is connected to the controller.
@eldon226 Hi mate i have the same coin acceptor with timer box and relay connected to it. The question is how should i wire up arcade controller to coin acceptor and timer box so the buttons and joystick will work only when coin inserted and there's a time on timer box? I'm using it on Windows 10, BigBox and opening games through RetroArch. Looking forward to your reply as i'm stuck and can't finish up my arcade machine
I’d need to know how the timer box work. If more time is added by pressing a button, then I think the easiest solution would be to connect the coin acceptor to the timer box similar to how I connected it to the usb encoder in the video. This way the timer box is activated by adding coins. Your controllers will be connected to the timer box, easiest was might be through dpdt relay(s). Use the relay to open and close the data plus and data minus wires of the usb controller(s). The power wires of the usb can remain connected.
@@eldon226 more time is being added by adding coins for instance 10 cents 1minute, 20 - 2 and so on. I've already connected coin acceptor to timer box with relay, but don't know how to connect encoder to coin acceptor. If you give me mail i could send you the link of them on aliexpress or video of them
@@shahinmirkhudayev2107 I don’t think you should connect the coin acceptor to the usb encoder. This is because you already have it connected to the timer. The timer will limit how long a game can be played, that’s the same purpose as adding coins to a specific game. Feel free to email if I’m not understanding. eldon226@yahoo
Great tutorial, but where on earth could I get that USB encoder? I'm in the process of making a machine for public use and all I'd need is a simple quarter input to work.
Link Hero Of Time you can use just about any USB encoder but this is the one I used. rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F302201377219
I followed the same setup, and I have exactly the same encoder, I connect to PC instead and noticed that in gamepad settings, even I do not put any coin, it seems still sending pulses, on setting window, when a button is clicked, you can tell on the windows and with this coin acceptor, even I do not put any coin, I stll see the button randomly get clicked, is this s faulty one or anything I missed ? please help.
@@eldon226 thank you so much for replying my message after years ... you are awesome. I don't know how to use multimeter I am afrid and could not work out a solution, I saw someone mentions they have similar issue and after add a relay the problem is solved, again, I have no idea what relay is or how to install it.... so basically when connected, in windows gamepad settings, you can see a button is clicked, with this one, I only connected the gray cable and I can see the button indicator on screen randomly clicked every few seconds, like it is sending pulses continuningly. anything do you suggest me to give a try? really really wish to get it working, I bought a 1up arcade and once I have the coin door fitted, that would make my life completed. :-)
@@haifengsu you should be using the gray and white wires to connect the button you want to be used as your coin button. Hope you get it figured out soon.
@@eldon226 Hi, thanks, I've tried that and it does simulate button click but without inserting any coin, looks like it sends out random pulse even no coin is inserted, I've ordered another one in case I am wasting time on a falty device. spent too much time on it. will let you know how I get on, thanks for the reply. 🙂
Hi! It's not registering it in the RGUI of the emulator, but in the very first control config, it's always getting a clear signal... Do you have any idea why? It is working normal on everything else - when I Configure it in the beginning control config, it gets clear signals and always behaves like it should, but to the damn emulation RGUI, it registers the signal, but always jumps back to "none" as soon as I drop a coin (if it wouldn't get a signal, it wouldn't jump back to none, so it gets a signal but just refuses to take it as a button... All the other regular buttons are configurable like this)
No, I don't think you can do that. I think I know what you're trying to accomplish though, you can go into your mame configuration and set it to require 2 coins to start a game instead of 1 coin.
The easiest way to accomplish that is to add a button in parallel with the two wires going from the coin acceptor to the usb encoder. This button will do same function as the coin acceptor, you'll just need to push it manually. Something to note here is that both the coin acceptor and the button will allow you to add game credit, you can add a switch in series with the button if you'd like the new button to be disabled sometimes. Hope I didn't confuse you.
@@eldon226 Good idea. I want to be autonomous... so I was thinking to run a script each time that a game start, through the GPIO and give power to the coin acceptor.
@@paolocid I'm not sure what exactly you're trying to do anymore, the gpio won't have enough power to power the coin acceptor. Are you saying you don't want the coin acceptor to work when you're in the main menu when but start working as soon as you start a game? If that's what you're trying to do I don't know enough to write my own script.
@@eldon226 Don't worry I was asking maybe if you know some other way, but I will need to write you down every single detail to what I want to achieve, but you done enough with your video thank you very much! I will give power from an external 12V on the relay as a switch, and the command from the GPIO.
hi sir my name is Dileep , i am getting all the way correctly with the coin sensor which i bought but a problem is after i finish all the settings i.e., H1,P1,F1 and press set button i could not see E on the LED display to end up the program and i could not able to do coin samplings
The use of diodes is not to reduce volts, they allow current to flow in one direction. Also this device needs 12v, not 5. Next, connecting and or using any electronic component incorrectly can damage other equipment they are connected to. The way I am using the coin acceptor is just like the other push buttons on your joystick. The only difference is that the coin acceptor has two additional wire which needs to be connected at a 12v source.
Does your Coin Mech still work with Retropie 4.4 and new Retroarch? Ive bought the same one and whenever i insert a coin it just resets Retropie. I cannot even assign it as a button in Emulationstation or Retroarch because it just resets straight away.
Yes, it still work. I did not update update either. I'd recommend you do a fresh install and not use the update option. I've seen a lot of people have issues when they do that, the coin acceptor is fine, it's the software that's broken if the only change that happened was an update.
@@jaymerc2005 any version of retropie will work, you may just need to reconfigure you control. Remember this is connected through your USB encoder and works like any other button connected to the USB encoder. If you want to do some troubleshooting you can remove the coin acceptor from your USB encoder and add a momentary button. Test and see if that changed anything, I'm almost certain its because you did an update and didn't install from scratch.
@@jaymerc2005 ok, I've had that problem in the past. It came from updating the software through the software option instead of a clean copy. Let me know though
I did just what you instructed, but when I enter a coin in MAME it does not register. It works fine in the Retropie menu when I use L2 for the coin, just not in MAME. Any ideas how I can fix this?
You can configure your mame emulators to use any button for coin, does pressing select work for your coin? Which emulator are you using for mame? Does any button work for adding coins?
@@eldon226 Hi, I tried using the select and various other buttons for mapping, but it won't register in the emulator. The coin selector works because it registers fine for the game pad configuration outside of the emulators, but when I enter Mame (2003 or mame4all), it doesn't register as an input. However, I tried it on my pc Mame and it registers fine. So, I think I need to reset the emulators controls in Retroarch and start all over again. Do you know how to do this? Thank you!
@@CrackerJayherber you can try to use a keyboard with mame to edit the config file, access the setting by pressing tab on your keyboard. Set your coin button there. You can also try to use the configure input in emulation station mail menu. That should work for all retroarch emulators ( including mame 2003)
@@eldon226 Hi there, yes other buttons work fine for coin. But using the coin selector for any button including select does not register inside of the mame emulators(mame2003 mame4all etc.), only in the gamepad configuration. I'll try reprogramming the whole retropie again onto the micro SD and start over again. There is nothing wrong with the coin selector. It works fine when connected to my pc and using any emulator works great. Thanks for your reply
@eldon226 i make the same like you... but my problem is when i drop a coin that is set to 5 impulse my mame only reads 3 pulses. i make the settings slow like you... do you have i idea what i can do?
Arturo Rapa yes, you need to change the settings on the game itself. Some games are set with different values as default. For example, some games require that you insert two coins for you to get one credit. So you'll need to change that and set it to one for one. Hope this help and fix your problem.
Can you explain to me how connecting pulses and coin counter end up operating like a button? Multiple pulses register as a button press but wouldn't coin counter only send once per coin?
Toneh Bam I know they do the same thing a button does because I connected them to a multimeter and used the continuity function to test them. I know it's also capable of counting the amount of coins that are inserted too, I never tried to use that feature nor am I interest in it.
No, but I think I know what your concern is. Some games use one coin acceptor for both players, as long as there is enough credit it'll work for two or more players. Some games also require a coin acceptor for each player, to fix this I went into the game configuration and set the player one and player two coin buttons to be the same exact button. I did this to those specific games (not for the emulator). Hope that answers your question
@@JamesHannagan I don’t remember, but thinking about it I believe that’s how it worked for those few games that needed each player to have individually assigned coins. Keep in mind that the amount of coins required to start a game can buy changed if you’d like to adjust that also.
@@eldon226 thx bro. I think even though the usb encoder looks 100% same as urs, it maybe now function differently, this is because when I check, the button is always 5v and when i click it short it out and register as button click. Maybe urs work diff, where the click of a button send 5v instead of always 5v and short it out to click.
I have my coin acceptor programmed and wired up, but it's not registering a button press on my arcade when the coin is dropped. However, if I switch the coin acceptor to normally closed it registers continuous button presses. So, a signal is being sent to the USB encoder. I have no idea what to do or how to correct this
Is this possible to do on a PC build? I have Windows 7 like mega hidden and disabled tons of elements, killer instinct Auto runs if the machine is unplugged And restarted.
MelodyZE I am not sure if that can be done, but I do know you can have your emulator or front-end auto start when you turn on your pc from a full shutdown. Within the emulator or front-end you might have an option to start last played game. I've never personally done it though so I'm not sure.
james labz make sure the return mechanism is not faulty, push the coin return and observe what happens, watch what happens when you insert a coin to see if its because of the return mechanism. Also make sure the coins you're using are not too large. That's all I have for now.
Hey man, wicked video, very helpful. But I do need some help.. I have my arcade controller built and configured and it works just fine, and i'm pretty sure i configured the coin op. just how you have it (as L2), BUT when i go into the game to assign the coin op for coins i'm just supposed to press TAB on my keyboard correct? well it's not working.. my keyboard seems unresponsive while in games, any advice?
eldon226 I am using the arcade emulator in the retropie pack. I think its MAME2003. I'm trying to get my name 2010 working but it's not working for me either.
Travis Anderson both those emulators use retroarch control configurations. That mean they use the inputs you used when you first used emulationstation. You should program your keyword the same way as you did your joystick and it should start working while in mame 2003. It's been awhile since I did anything on it but use the main menu and find the coinfig control option. Hopefully that works
@@LeesInUSA the best way is with a multimeter, if you don't have one, most power adapter have positive on the inside (hole) of the cylindrical plug and negative on the outside. You can also just connect it to the coin acceptor power input (black and red wires), if it does not work switch the wires around. That will not damage the power adapter nor the coin acceptor, assuming you're using a 12v dc power supply.
@@m4l490n I don't know, sorry. You're obviously more advanced than I. I just know that it works similar to a relay switch. Drop in a coin and it will either open or close a circuit temporarily.
@@suelenbraga2006 I'm sure you're not doing something correct. It has 3 wires because you can use LED buttons with it. Try to connect your button then remove one of the three wires, test the button and repeat to root figure out which two are actually connected to the switch pins in the button.
I'm not very familiar with the Pandora box, but if it has a dedicated button that's used to add coin then yes, it'll work. The way I have this working is just like any other button on the control panel. Putting in a coin is equivalent to pressing a button.
Does it act like a button? I used a USB encoder and connected to raspberry pi, then connected to gpio pin on rip and it worked. I have a question: how many volts does it pulse 5v or 12v? I am scared that it might damage my USB encoder on the long run. And also thanks! I had a coin acceptor lying around from my old claw machine and I've been trying to do this but didn't know until I came across this video today. Keep up the good work!!!
Remove the power, press and hold the "set" and "add" buttons together, apply power while still keeping those two buttons pressed, keep them pressed with the power on till and release them after you hear a beep.
@@seanjohndensing8485 if you don't hear any beep hold them for at least 20 seconds. You can test to make sure it work by putting in a coin you previously programmed
How did you get an emulated called arcade I can't fix it anywhere please help I'm trying to make a coin opperated machine like you. Also do you know how to take the retro pi emulater off so nobody can edit the settings.
Trey Street use the folder "arcade" which is in the roms folder. Just delete the contents that you don't want under RetroPie, if you delete all of them then that RetroPie tap will go away, similar to if you delete every game from a emulator then that emulator tab will go away. Anyone familiar with RetroPie will still be able to make changes if that wasn't to though using other methods to access those settings.
Hey I have original arcade machines and I want the arcade games that I have to be on my retro pie arcade. Can you personal message me the link to where you got your arcade Roms.
Toneh Bam it's not supplying any power to the encoder, it's doing the same exact thing as a regular standalone button would, which is taking two wires and attaching them together or separating them from each other (opening and closing a circuit). Hope I explained that well enough, that's the simplest was I could think of for explaining it.
Can anyone help me to set up coin acceptor for my vending machine? It’s oranfresh vending machine, there is no manual or anything and company doesn’t respond to anything. I can’t figure out the wires from the board to coin acceptor.
Hello 4 you video my Coin Acceptor working fine THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I got 2 Qestions 1. How is full reset this coin acceptor ? 2. At Mame, in games midway MK, WWF WRESTLEMANIA, etc. you also get credits despite leaving the game, if not how you repaired
KRIS B if your game saves the coins from the last time you played the game that would be changed in the game settings and not the coin acceptor. If you want to reset the coin acceptor you can try this instruction (I've never reset mine so I'm not 100 percent sure on it) make sure no power is being sent to the coin acceptor, hold the SET and ADD buttons, apply power to the coin acceptor while still holding those two buttons. Release them after about 10 seconds. This will put it back to factory settings, all your programming will be deleted.
The reason there was a grey wire commoned with the positive was for the total coin counter function. The other grey counter wire pulls down to the negative rail via a transistor to click round a mechanical counter connected between the two grey wires. It's a function that is included for professional gaming machines where there is a requirement to keep a permanent log of coins for duty/accounting purposes. The pulse output is for the logic board, Arduino or MAME interface.
bigclivedotcom OK, thank you. That make sense
bigclivedotcom in the house :D
My counter is set up for a jukebox using a relay which sends the pulses to the computer via USB,my problrm is the sofftware cant pick up all the pulses even though i have it set on slow,any idea what is happening
@@aughanure1 i think on of your 'converter' elements is to slow..
the relay - if it is a mechanical one - can be really slow... and so misses the pulses..
also the software - if the way / input you are using is not meant for fast pulses from another electronic it eventually things the pulses are bounces from a switch and filters them out...
lots of things that can go wrong here...
Thank you for your video.
I am a arcade machine vendor and I usually deal with pool tables, jukeboxes etc
Recently I bought a taito cocktail machine and I bought this very same coin acceptor to use in my machine on location and this coin acceptor fitted very easily on the machine.
It's very handy to have a multi coin acceptor instead of the old macanical coin acceptor that only takes one coin.
I just didn't understand the instructions that came with this coin acceptor.
Thanks again for your help.
Thank you my friend. I don't know anything about electronics and I've been trying to install this in an arcade for 3 years. And this is because a "Brazilian guy" explains it all in an impressively complicated way (it never worked that way). As explained here, it's simple and... IT WORKS. Thank you very much.
I dug through a lot of videos on UA-cam before it served this one up. Your video was BY FAR the most useful. Thank you!
Matthew Mouras you're welcome
I got my coin acceptor to work using your video! My PCB had a three pin layout for each button. In case someone else has a similar setup, I had to move the white (coin) and grey (counter) wires around on those pins before I found a combination that worked: One went to ground and the other to the pin next to ground. Thanks again for your video!
Matthew Mouras that's great, sounds like your encoder supports led lights. Glad everything's working for you now.
Thank you. Just picked up two of these units off Amazon. I had no clue how to setup with Retropie. Awesome video.
You sir...rock... it took all of 3 minutes watching your video. If I had to do it with the instructions that were shipped, I'd have canned the unit.
you my friend just saved me a ton of headaches! gotta love the Chinese to English manual instructions NUMBERICAL???? HAHAHA! also one minor thing I noticed was that you don't want to have the multi-meter leads connected to the counter and coin wires when you are sampling the coins. Doing so caused me to get "0" on the counts and then I would need to power off the unit and redo the procedure. Leaving the multimeter disconnected until it was programmed solved this issue for me. Hope this helps someone else out, Thanks for the video!
what is the multileader lead? i am having that issue right now
@@ellobobeats6324 multimeter leads are your red and black probes on your measuring device, leave these disconnected when sampling the unit with coins
@@hardkore360 thank you so much for the info 👍
An excellent tutorial, mate. I never thought I'd get my head around it but you made it nice and simple. My Game Elf cabinet is now accepting coins. Thank you so much!
Very informative. First real video I've found on how to set this up. Thank you!
Thank you so much for this. I have been trying to find this info for such a long time
Thank you so much for this, incredibly helpful, building an arcade cabinet with my son.
Thanks for this vid dude, got that exact model of coin acceptor coming in the post..!
If anyone (especially in the UK) is looking for a USB controller suitable for this kind of device, may I suggest the Player X PCB, easy to set up, made in sheffield, and inexpensive- i have 4.
hello, have you noticed that this coin acceptor kills some USB boards? Mine sometimes work and than not. Der ist some Current on the Acceptor wires and different current on the USB Board. One board went dead with ghost inputs on the other all buttons besides the ones i plugged in are not responding anymore. In all i tried the Acceptor.
Thank you so much. I have a somewhat different model (accepts six different coins, no need to switch off after initial setup / before sampling), but without you would have had no idea, where to connect my USB-Joystick-Adapter or program this thing!
You’re welcome
Wonderful video! Detailed and well explained. Thanks a lot!
Thanks a lot! It's better than trying to understand the bad chinese translation to english photocopy I got with my mech!!!
Thanks for the video eldon226. I have 2 coin acceptors and 1 12v power supply. My question is, can I power the 2 coin acceptors with 1 power supply? If so, how? Can i connect the 2 positive wires together and the 2 negative wires together into the power supply? Or do I need some kind of Y-spliter?
thanks dude been lookin for a tutorial like this for some time~ kool setup
Really Great video (much better than mine) I will point to yours for further info in my old one. I never knew how to set up multiple different coins, until now I only could use 50p for one pulse, now I have £1 for two pulses. Cheers
Thanks for this video, after seeing how it’s done I def want to add one myself 👍
Thank you very much ! I thought it would be rubbish but you helped so much bro
Thanks pal. You saved my life!!
Great tutorial, really great!!
Miguel Vázquez Pombo you're welcome
Fantastic Video! Really thanks! Thank you for made look so simple and easy to use!
I am a bit confused. You connected the pulse wire to your usb encoder but doesn't the coinslot pulse at 12v?
Maybe they have different models but mine is just an open and close circuit as shown in the video using the multimeter on continuity setting.
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Hi Eldon! Thanks for the clear instruction! I had no clue without this and only the manual. The only problem I hav is that I tried plastic coins that we would like to use but are not registered by the meter. Do you have a suggestion? Which coins could be used?
You can use any type of coin, they could be real or fake, the material they are made from doesn’t matter either. Just make sure whatever coins you decide to use are not so large that they can’t fit and not so light that they don’t have enough momentum to roll through the slot. You’ll need to program the coin acceptor to whatever coin you want to use.
So not wathever coin. Apparently these are to light....
@@bregjehuisman8564 correct
Hi.
Your film helped me a lot.
Especially it's connecting to the encoder.
Thank you.
Awesome job - I really like your videos - Thanks for your community contribution here!
Jan Klaasen thank you, you're welcome
You are a UA-cam GOD!
Sometimes my coin acceptor goes crazy causing the usb encoder to fail. When I unplug the coin acceptor the usb encoder works fine. Seems to be that the coin acceptor iis sending electricity to my usb encoder. Any idea?
You should test the wires coming from the coin acceptor going to the usb encoder using a voltmeter, you should not be getting any voltage from them. Also test them using continuity function, those wire should act as a momentary switch , meaning they should just close momentarily and then go back to normally open. You’ll need to add coins to do these test.
@@eldon226 Thanks for the response! For some reason my usb encoder works with the coin accpetor on NC mode, the problem with the NC mode is that it sends a constant pulse to the usb encoder. When i use the NO mode sometimes works and sometimes makes the usb encoder go crazy. I read that some people use a zener diode to regulate the pulse, according to these people the coin accpetor sends voltage to the usb encoder. The only difference I have with your setup is that mny usb encoder connectors havew 3 pins, one of them is for iluminate the buttons, but I am not using that wire. Maybe there is something wrong in my setup or my coin acceptor is defective.
@@gasabbath my assumption is that you have a faulty coin acceptor or a different model than I used, not sure how I can help apart from suggesting you try a new one
Thanks so much great tutorial helped me a lot!!! 👍😀
Hi Eldon. We recently started using the device as a timer. It worked for 2 days, but then stopped working. The timer/counter still works, but there is no power coming to the socket (UK). We want to use it as a timer for a washing machine (NL/EU plug). We need to use it with a UK-EU adapter. Specially bought a grounded one for this purpose. So now no power. With another adapter you can see that there is some (too low) current on the USB port, see blue light in the photo. For example, it is possible to charge your phone with this, but not via the regular plug (white). What is wrong? I have already removed the plug from the holder to check the connections properly, that seems fine now, but it still doesn't work. Could I get in contact with you for suggestions?
I’m not sure how I can help you with this, I’m not an expert with this product. The only thing I know to do with it is what I’ve shown in my video. If it was doing what you wanted for two days I’d suggest maybe getting a new one to at least verify that your connections are good and your old item is faulty.
Any chance you can lead me in the direction to a bill acceptor for the Pi?
Great tutorial, thank you very much!
I guess there's no problems with the the controller being 5V but the coin collector being 12V?
@@widearchshark3981 no, that’s because the coin acceptor is interfacing with the controller as a switch. It’s not sending voltage, just opening and closing a circuit. Just like any other button that is connected to the controller.
@@eldon226 Got ya, thank you !
How do you set this up on a claw grabber for prize every time?
@@TheSTEfit I’m not sure how to connect it to a claw grabber machine because I’m not familiar with how the claw grabber machine works.
@eldon226 Hi mate i have the same coin acceptor with timer box and relay connected to it. The question is how should i wire up arcade controller to coin acceptor and timer box so the buttons and joystick will work only when coin inserted and there's a time on timer box? I'm using it on Windows 10, BigBox and opening games through RetroArch. Looking forward to your reply as i'm stuck and can't finish up my arcade machine
I’d need to know how the timer box work. If more time is added by pressing a button, then I think the easiest solution would be to connect the coin acceptor to the timer box similar to how I connected it to the usb encoder in the video. This way the timer box is activated by adding coins. Your controllers will be connected to the timer box, easiest was might be through dpdt relay(s). Use the relay to open and close the data plus and data minus wires of the usb controller(s). The power wires of the usb can remain connected.
@@eldon226 more time is being added by adding coins for instance 10 cents 1minute, 20 - 2 and so on. I've already connected coin acceptor to timer box with relay, but don't know how to connect encoder to coin acceptor. If you give me mail i could send you the link of them on aliexpress or video of them
@@shahinmirkhudayev2107 I don’t think you should connect the coin acceptor to the usb encoder. This is because you already have it connected to the timer. The timer will limit how long a game can be played, that’s the same purpose as adding coins to a specific game. Feel free to email if I’m not understanding. eldon226@yahoo
@@eldon226 sent you email
@eldon226 can i get your mail
Thank you for all this videos
Great tutorial, but where on earth could I get that USB encoder? I'm in the process of making a machine for public use and all I'd need is a simple quarter input to work.
Link Hero Of Time you can use just about any USB encoder but this is the one I used.
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Awesome video yardy!!!!.... the instructions may as well have been in chinese....thank you🙏
Hey dude! Is it possible to power this with less voltage? Say 9V or even 5V????
I’m not sure, I only used 12v
I followed the same setup, and I have exactly the same encoder, I connect to PC instead and noticed that in gamepad settings, even I do not put any coin, it seems still sending pulses, on setting window, when a button is clicked, you can tell on the windows and with this coin acceptor, even I do not put any coin, I stll see the button randomly get clicked, is this s faulty one or anything I missed ? please help.
I’m not sure why that’s happening, does it do that with your multimeter connected also, check using the continuity setting.
@@eldon226 thank you so much for replying my message after years ... you are awesome. I don't know how to use multimeter I am afrid and could not work out a solution, I saw someone mentions they have similar issue and after add a relay the problem is solved, again, I have no idea what relay is or how to install it.... so basically when connected, in windows gamepad settings, you can see a button is clicked, with this one, I only connected the gray cable and I can see the button indicator on screen randomly clicked every few seconds, like it is sending pulses continuningly. anything do you suggest me to give a try? really really wish to get it working, I bought a 1up arcade and once I have the coin door fitted, that would make my life completed. :-)
@@haifengsu you should be using the gray and white wires to connect the button you want to be used as your coin button. Hope you get it figured out soon.
@@eldon226 Hi, thanks, I've tried that and it does simulate button click but without inserting any coin, looks like it sends out random pulse even no coin is inserted, I've ordered another one in case I am wasting time on a falty device. spent too much time on it. will let you know how I get on, thanks for the reply. 🙂
@@haifengsu no problem, good luck with it
Hi! It's not registering it in the RGUI of the emulator, but in the very first control config, it's always getting a clear signal... Do you have any idea why?
It is working normal on everything else - when I Configure it in the beginning control config, it gets clear signals and always behaves like it should, but to the damn emulation RGUI, it registers the signal, but always jumps back to "none" as soon as I drop a coin (if it wouldn't get a signal, it wouldn't jump back to none, so it gets a signal but just refuses to take it as a button... All the other regular buttons are configurable like this)
Is it possible to set these for example take 2 identical coins for one pulse ?
No, I don't think you can do that. I think I know what you're trying to accomplish though, you can go into your mame configuration and set it to require 2 coins to start a game instead of 1 coin.
Awesome stuff! Thanks for the video.
Great video, very helpful. Cheers
Thanks for the video - it's awesome!
Hi can I use it for regular washer and dryer? How to set up the timer?
No, don't think this particular one can be used for that. May need a whole lot of modifications to do so.
Once again Fantastic! One question... There is a way to stop from accepting coins and start it again... with some relay or script!
The easiest way to accomplish that is to add a button in parallel with the two wires going from the coin acceptor to the usb encoder. This button will do same function as the coin acceptor, you'll just need to push it manually. Something to note here is that both the coin acceptor and the button will allow you to add game credit, you can add a switch in series with the button if you'd like the new button to be disabled sometimes. Hope I didn't confuse you.
@@eldon226 Good idea.
I want to be autonomous... so I was thinking to run a script each time that a game start, through the GPIO and give power to the coin acceptor.
@@paolocid I'm not sure what exactly you're trying to do anymore, the gpio won't have enough power to power the coin acceptor. Are you saying you don't want the coin acceptor to work when you're in the main menu when but start working as soon as you start a game? If that's what you're trying to do I don't know enough to write my own script.
@@eldon226 Don't worry I was asking maybe if you know some other way, but I will need to write you down every single detail to what I want to achieve, but you done enough with your video thank you very much!
I will give power from an external 12V on the relay as a switch, and the command from the GPIO.
@@paolocid your welcome, sounds like you got it figured out.
Do I need 2 of these to set up for 2 players?
hi sir my name is Dileep , i am getting all the way correctly with the coin sensor which i bought but a problem is after i finish all the settings i.e., H1,P1,F1 and press set button i could not see E on the LED display to end up the program and i could not able to do coin samplings
could this burn my pcb? some people suggest to add some diode or something to make 12v to 5v?
The use of diodes is not to reduce volts, they allow current to flow in one direction. Also this device needs 12v, not 5. Next, connecting and or using any electronic component incorrectly can damage other equipment they are connected to. The way I am using the coin acceptor is just like the other push buttons on your joystick. The only difference is that the coin acceptor has two additional wire which needs to be connected at a 12v source.
show. òtimo vídeo.. aprendi bastante. Já configurei o meu. Parabéns !!
Does your Coin Mech still work with Retropie 4.4 and new Retroarch? Ive bought the same one and whenever i insert a coin it just resets Retropie. I cannot even assign it as a button in Emulationstation or Retroarch because it just resets straight away.
Yes, it still work. I did not update update either. I'd recommend you do a fresh install and not use the update option. I've seen a lot of people have issues when they do that, the coin acceptor is fine, it's the software that's broken if the only change that happened was an update.
@@eldon226 Thanks, which version do you currently use so i know its stable
@@jaymerc2005 any version of retropie will work, you may just need to reconfigure you control. Remember this is connected through your USB encoder and works like any other button connected to the USB encoder. If you want to do some troubleshooting you can remove the coin acceptor from your USB encoder and add a momentary button. Test and see if that changed anything, I'm almost certain its because you did an update and didn't install from scratch.
@@eldon226 Ok, i will update once i've found the issue just in case someone else is having the same problem. Thanks again
@@jaymerc2005 ok, I've had that problem in the past. It came from updating the software through the software option instead of a clean copy. Let me know though
How does 2, 3 and 4 player workk? Wasn't shown...
When I wire up my coin acceptor like this, retropie menu just flashes (like the button is pressed over and over. Can you help?
I no longer have this in my possession, but if I remember correctly, there is a switch on it for NC and NO, make sure it’s on NO (normally open).
wow. very cool. I've always wanted to know how to do this. thank you very very much.
Dawg You're welcome
I did just what you instructed, but when I enter a coin in MAME it does not register. It works fine in the Retropie menu when I use L2 for the coin, just not in MAME. Any ideas how I can fix this?
You can configure your mame emulators to use any button for coin, does pressing select work for your coin? Which emulator are you using for mame? Does any button work for adding coins?
@@eldon226 Hi, I tried using the select and various other buttons for mapping, but it won't register in the emulator. The coin selector works because it registers fine for the game pad configuration outside of the emulators, but when I enter Mame (2003 or mame4all), it doesn't register as an input. However, I tried it on my pc Mame and it registers fine. So, I think I need to reset the emulators controls in Retroarch and start all over again. Do you know how to do this? Thank you!
@@CrackerJayherber you can try to use a keyboard with mame to edit the config file, access the setting by pressing tab on your keyboard. Set your coin button there. You can also try to use the configure input in emulation station mail menu. That should work for all retroarch emulators ( including mame 2003)
@@eldon226 Hi there, yes other buttons work fine for coin. But using the coin selector for any button including select does not register inside of the mame emulators(mame2003 mame4all etc.), only in the gamepad configuration. I'll try reprogramming the whole retropie again onto the micro SD and start over again. There is nothing wrong with the coin selector. It works fine when connected to my pc and using any emulator works great. Thanks for your reply
@@CrackerJayherber you’re welcome, hope you get it to work. It’s just odd that it works everywhere except mame.
@eldon226 i make the same like you... but my problem is when i drop a coin that is set to 5 impulse my mame only reads 3 pulses. i make the settings slow like you... do you have i idea what i can do?
Arturo Rapa yes, you need to change the settings on the game itself. Some games are set with different values as default. For example, some games require that you insert two coins for you to get one credit. So you'll need to change that and set it to one for one. Hope this help and fix your problem.
Can you explain to me how connecting pulses and coin counter end up operating like a button? Multiple pulses register as a button press but wouldn't coin counter only send once per coin?
Toneh Bam I know they do the same thing a button does because I connected them to a multimeter and used the continuity function to test them. I know it's also capable of counting the amount of coins that are inserted too, I never tried to use that feature nor am I interest in it.
Hey man do you know anything about the diy cabinet kits on eBay for about 80 bucks
erick jones I don't know much about them. Sorry.
On the retropie, do you have to have a coin acceptor for each player?
No, but I think I know what your concern is. Some games use one coin acceptor for both players, as long as there is enough credit it'll work for two or more players. Some games also require a coin acceptor for each player, to fix this I went into the game configuration and set the player one and player two coin buttons to be the same exact button. I did this to those specific games (not for the emulator). Hope that answers your question
eldon226 yes it did Thank You
@@eldon226 wouldn't that assign 2 credits every time you dropped a coin in, if it was wired to two players' "coin" buttons?
@@JamesHannagan I don’t remember, but thinking about it I believe that’s how it worked for those few games that needed each player to have individually assigned coins. Keep in mind that the amount of coins required to start a game can buy changed if you’d like to adjust that also.
How much are you selling that game for. I want one
The ipac4 board only has one input for coin... which cable will work for that?
I'm sure it has two, use the same ground pin that you used for the buttons and the coin pin.
eldon226 I found someone in a google search right before you replied and got it, I appreciate your fast response though... I’m working on a tabletop
I appreciate your videos
How did you get full screen???
Frank Cisco this video should help you with that, ua-cam.com/video/170L41QpImE/v-deo.html
so when i unplug the power supply do i need to do the calibration again?
No, it’s stored in memory
@@eldon226 hey, thanks.
Thanks mate, really helpful
must use the grey counter? if only use the coin it wont register?
I’m not sure, I’ve only used it like shown in the video. I no longer have it to test other options
@@eldon226 thanks, i will follow ur guide
@@eldon226 i tried but there is no signal detected, the coin white goes to black wire on thr board, and the counter goes to red wire right. Thx
@@bopiangM make sure you program it properly, if you’ve done everything correctly and it still don’t work I’m not sure what’s wrong with it
@@eldon226 thx bro. I think even though the usb encoder looks 100% same as urs, it maybe now function differently, this is because when I check, the button is always 5v and when i click it short it out and register as button click. Maybe urs work diff, where the click of a button send 5v instead of always 5v and short it out to click.
I have my coin acceptor programmed and wired up, but it's not registering a button press on my arcade when the coin is dropped. However, if I switch the coin acceptor to normally closed it registers continuous button presses. So, a signal is being sent to the USB encoder. I have no idea what to do or how to correct this
I'm not sure why that is either. Maybe reset and start from scratch. Sounds like you might have missed a step in the coin programming.
I have a Genesis GO 380 combo vending machine with a similar coin acceptor. Anyone have information on the switches and settings?
I don’t, sorry
Thanks !!! Nice and very clear.
Is this possible to do on a PC build? I have Windows 7 like mega hidden and disabled tons of elements, killer instinct Auto runs if the machine is unplugged And restarted.
MelodyZE I am not sure if that can be done, but I do know you can have your emulator or front-end auto start when you turn on your pc from a full shutdown. Within the emulator or front-end you might have an option to start last played game. I've never personally done it though so I'm not sure.
Thanks, awesome tutorial.
What cables should be connected to the usb encoder? Thanks
WolfRamiO PULSTAR coin and counter
Very thanks, video tutorial the best
brilliant work, great job
sir why is it when i am in the set-up method (the part when i put a coin) the coin is not falling . the coin slot is rejecting the 3 kinds of coin.
please help
james labz make sure the return mechanism is not faulty, push the coin return and observe what happens, watch what happens when you insert a coin to see if its because of the return mechanism. Also make sure the coins you're using are not too large. That's all I have for now.
Hey man, wicked video, very helpful. But I do need some help..
I have my arcade controller built and configured and it works just fine, and i'm pretty sure
i configured the coin op. just how you have it (as L2), BUT when i go into the game to assign the coin op for coins i'm just supposed to press TAB on my keyboard correct? well it's not working.. my keyboard seems unresponsive while in games, any advice?
Travis Anderson which emulator are you using?
eldon226 I am using the arcade emulator in the retropie pack. I think its MAME2003. I'm trying to get my name 2010 working but it's not working for me either.
Travis Anderson both those emulators use retroarch control configurations. That mean they use the inputs you used when you first used emulationstation. You should program your keyword the same way as you did your joystick and it should start working while in mame 2003. It's been awhile since I did anything on it but use the main menu and find the coinfig control option. Hopefully that works
I am super noob, and I don't know how to wire this thing with the adaptor. How do I know what is gound/positive on the adapter side??
What adapter?
DC
power adapter
@@LeesInUSA the best way is with a multimeter, if you don't have one, most power adapter have positive on the inside (hole) of the cylindrical plug and negative on the outside. You can also just connect it to the coin acceptor power input (black and red wires), if it does not work switch the wires around. That will not damage the power adapter nor the coin acceptor, assuming you're using a 12v dc power supply.
Can this be set to 4 coins give 1 pulse?
I don’t think so but I’m not sure.
Sorry I mean to give you 1 pulse after 4 coins of the same amount
For like $1 per play usd
@@slownlow210 I don’t think so, however, you can set your emulator to start your game with 4 credits instead of 1
Does it give +12V output pulses, +5V pulses, or 3.3V pulses?
Neither, it's just like a switch. Open and close the same wire
@@eldon226 thanks! And what's the pulses frequency?
@@m4l490n I don't know, sorry. You're obviously more advanced than I. I just know that it works similar to a relay switch. Drop in a coin and it will either open or close a circuit temporarily.
@@eldon226 its 5v pulses
Does someone know if there is a way to plug this coin selector with a CY-822B board??
Yes, you can use it exactly how this video describes it. Attach it to the same two wires you'd normally attach your coin input button to.
@@eldon226 because It has 3 wires connectors and I tried ALL possibles combinations and the coin sellector didn't work.
@@suelenbraga2006 I'm sure you're not doing something correct. It has 3 wires because you can use LED buttons with it. Try to connect your button then remove one of the three wires, test the button and repeat to root figure out which two are actually connected to the switch pins in the button.
@@eldon226 Ok. I will try it. Thanks sir.
@@suelenbraga2006 did you find a way to making it to work ?
Do u know if it will work with a Pandora box? Thanks. Subbed also
I'm not very familiar with the Pandora box, but if it has a dedicated button that's used to add coin then yes, it'll work. The way I have this working is just like any other button on the control panel. Putting in a coin is equivalent to pressing a button.
@@eldon226 thank you. Yes it has a dedicated coin button. I'm going to try that.
Did the Pandora box work?
@@johnallen8334 you should ask LEST 3000 because he's the one with Pandora box
Worked great with the Pandora Box 👌👍😊..
Does it act like a button? I used a USB encoder and connected to raspberry pi, then connected to gpio pin on rip and it worked. I have a question: how many volts does it pulse 5v or 12v? I am scared that it might damage my USB encoder on the long run. And also thanks! I had a coin acceptor lying around from my old claw machine and I've been trying to do this but didn't know until I came across this video today. Keep up the good work!!!
*Sorry, instead of rip, I meant it
I Like To Make Things ILTMT yes, it acts just like a button so no 5v or 12v pulse to worry about. It just open a close those two wires.
can this hook up on any of the Pandora's Box
I have never used Pandora's Box but i can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work with it.
thanks for the heads up, really like this video great help
yes you can use this on Pandora's Box videocdn.taobao.com/oss/taobao-ugc/4d7b6659de4845c68a34fc6b4a17d85a/1503311186/video.mp4
what if I want to switch to free play. how do you wire that up to the encoder thanks
I’m not sure how you’d do that, the only way I know to enable free play is through the game settings.
@@eldon226 thank you
Worked for me😊
Hi sir good PM! What are the steps on resetting the coinslot? I mean, the one that would turn back the coinslot to its factory settings.
Remove the power, press and hold the "set" and "add" buttons together, apply power while still keeping those two buttons pressed, keep them pressed with the power on till and release them after you hear a beep.
eldon226 thank you for your reply sir. Ive tried those steps but I cant hear a beep.
eldon226 after I release them “A” will be displayed on the LED display. Should I remove the power again? Or press “setup” then “A1” will be displayed
@@seanjohndensing8485 if you don't hear any beep hold them for at least 20 seconds. You can test to make sure it work by putting in a coin you previously programmed
is this set up will also effect on pisonet dude ?
james labz I'm not familiar with that so I don't know.
ok bro no problem . Thank you for the clean tutorial.
does rs232 realy work?
How did you get an emulated called arcade I can't fix it anywhere please help I'm trying to make a coin opperated machine like you. Also do you know how to take the retro pi emulater off so nobody can edit the settings.
Trey Street use the folder "arcade" which is in the roms folder. Just delete the contents that you don't want under RetroPie, if you delete all of them then that RetroPie tap will go away, similar to if you delete every game from a emulator then that emulator tab will go away. Anyone familiar with RetroPie will still be able to make changes if that wasn't to though using other methods to access those settings.
thanks also what kind of roms did you use because all I can find is nes games and console games not original arcade machine roms.
Trey Street use this link for help with which roms to use for arcade games.
github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/MAME
Ok thank you so much.
Hey I have original arcade machines and I want the arcade games that I have to be on my retro pie arcade. Can you personal message me the link to where you got your arcade Roms.
what is the name of the game arcade machine?
So this device requires it's own power supply right?
Tshamon Vang correct, or uses 12v. If you have a Amplifier or maybe lights that use 12v then you could possibly share power with those.
Wouldn't 7 impulses give you 7 credits?
Correct, each pulse will give 1 credit
@@eldon226 Ok! so 5 cent is one credit! 10 cent 2 credits and 25 cents is 7 credits! Yer that makes sense!
Where did you get the build?
lastcall170 I built it from scratch.
These coin connectors operate in 12v. How does making them work as a button not damage the encoder? (sry im noob)
Toneh Bam it's not supplying any power to the encoder, it's doing the same exact thing as a regular standalone button would, which is taking two wires and attaching them together or separating them from each other (opening and closing a circuit). Hope I explained that well enough, that's the simplest was I could think of for explaining it.
Eldon226 I see. How does that work with pulses? Would 7 pulses send 7 key presses?
correct, that's exactly what it does.
Eldon226 Thanks. This has been most helpful!!
excellent and thank you very much!
Can anyone help me to set up coin acceptor for my vending machine? It’s oranfresh vending machine, there is no manual or anything and company doesn’t respond to anything. I can’t figure out the wires from the board to coin acceptor.
I'm not familiar with that, sorry.
where can we buy your arcade kit from?
Anthony Manfre you can UA-cam message me your contact info and we go from there.
Hello 4 you video my Coin Acceptor working fine THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I got 2 Qestions
1. How is full reset this coin acceptor ?
2. At Mame, in games midway MK, WWF WRESTLEMANIA, etc. you also get credits despite leaving the game, if not how you repaired
KRIS B if your game saves the coins from the last time you played the game that would be changed in the game settings and not the coin acceptor. If you want to reset the coin acceptor you can try this instruction (I've never reset mine so I'm not 100 percent sure on it) make sure no power is being sent to the coin acceptor, hold the SET and ADD buttons, apply power to the coin acceptor while still holding those two buttons. Release them after about 10 seconds. This will put it back to factory settings, all your programming will be deleted.
Hmm but i change in setting services mode etc and not help ;(
will try your way after Easter, Happy Easter ;)
EASY AND STRAIGHT FORWARD, THANKS MANY TIMES OVER