maryanne bowley she had lived in the U.S. for a time and loved it here--she was ordered home by the Chinese Olympic federation. Afraid she was going to defect.
@@hollyjolly2066 well, she would have lost her Chinese citizenship and wouldn’t have been able to complete for them in the Olympics, which is what she was working towards at the time. She couldn’t compete for the US without becoming a citizen and that process takes longer than the amount of time until the next olympics.
@@TT-ee4qp stop your insults please. We all enjoy reading comments and YOURS is rude and terribly insulting. This is 2024......not 1998. Get mental help and please get a life. Stop your keyboard vomit.
Olympics isone single event and performance. If you win the Olympics it does not mean you're the best overall. To me that night the smile and tears of Lu Chen were worth more than gold. She's the best example of elegance and love of the sport honoring it as best she can. Her bronze medal was from the heart.
Before Tara even found out she won she was bawling and after she got her scores with one skater to go she went back stage and cried. Everyone cries. If I skated like they do I'd cry too. Let's just be happy for both of them. They are very talented.
I usually defend Tara, but she didn't have to shrug Michelle off when she tried to hug her. Tara sort of said "we only do that on the Podium...not here". Where as Michelle was genuine and was like "well if you won't hug me I'll hug Lu Chen". BTW, I love that Lu Chen put her hand over her heart too :)
You did not see Michelle backstage when the camera snuck up on her, read her book, she even said she handled it very immaturely..no WOnder Tara didn't give her a fake hug until she had to.
@@elizabethhurley1129 Just because T was younger and fiter then MK, T is more easier to jump. That's why T gave up figure skating after she won Olympic. Because T would lose her physiological advantage one day.
It is amazing and heart-breaking at the same time, when you have arguably the greatest american skater in history who just couldn't win that Olympic gold...So many championships but not the one she most wanted and deserved...I love you Michelle!!!!!!!
@Mountain Lover yes indeed michelle got what she deserves. tara and sarah skates to win while michelle skates not to lose. they both won where it matters most, the olympics. i am sure michelle is willing to trade in all her 10 national and 5 world titles for 1 olympics title, period.
My heart just broke for Michelle, you could just see the pain in her eyes. She always deserved the gold, but just could never pull it off due to the pressure, or nerves. She still reigns the most decorated figure skater in history, where I hope she remains forever.
Michelle was robbed and Tara was overrated. Michelle's artistry and technique were better, her performance was classic, beautiful and womanly. Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump , even so , she still didn't make a correct 3+3 to win. Tara retired because she got hurt and grew up, then everything changed.
@@23Echeo Tara's flip and lutz would be called out for under rotation today. Tara's triples were cheap. Tiny, rushed jumps. Tara's technique was overrated and wouldn't get marks today. Michelle was robbed.
@@TT-ee4qp Tara's jumps were like Yulia Lipnitskaya's, very tiny, no height, and relies on spinning the jumps rather than jumping them. Yet Yulia was still scoring high
I think Tara won on the basis of her triples. Michelle's performance was much more artistic, also her body type is more elegant on the ice. If Michelle had had more triples in her program, she would have won. After looking at both programs, I still think Michelle should have won regardless
victoria grant it's not so much the number of triples, it was the triple/triple combinations. Tara had two, Michelle didn't do any. They each had a total of seven triples, it's just that Tara's were harder in combinations than Michelle's. Had Michelle done the same combinations and landed them as flawlessly as Tara did, she likely would have won because her artistic marks were higher than Tara's.
Michelle Kwan was a joy to watch all the years of her skating career. A true "complete" skater. Here at the medal presentation she is showing incredible graciousness. She has my respect. Even though Tara lipinski was awarded the gold here, I do not think she was a complete skater. It was a youthful, athletic performance. Alina Zagitova at the same age showed much more polished skating maturity. Lipinski does not stick out as a memorable skater to me. Sometimes it isnt the best skaters who win the gold.
People need to stop being so rude. They are BOTH amazing skater who BOTH deserve praise for their accomplishments. They are the few people in history that get to say they won a medal at the olympics so chill out and be happy for both of them!
Lou Chen was such a beautiful skater to watch and such a class act!!! Michelle was a true hero of skating and an ambassador for the United States. She went the distance in her skating career bringing alot of style and grace to the sport!!! Tara was so young here but after she won the Gold medal there was really no place for her to go. Professional skating is much different from amateur were you had to be to do serious competing. Most skaters don't stay as professionals and find other career choices.
Tara was overrated to win the Olympics gold. Michelle was robbed. Tara's program was a Disney Cartoon, she also had a incorrect triple triple combo.....under the new system, Michelle would be the winner.
I love how nice mIchelle Kwan is! She hugged everyone. Tara was a little bit snooty to her. Michelle was just trying to give her a hug! Michelle was such a good sport anda very nice person GO MICHELLE KWAN!!!:)
This was written 15 years ago but imma say something. Lutz is more difficult for most skaters. For professional skaters 3 rotations is not difficult. So as for the more common double axel it’s not that bad (triple is ultra c so I won’t even talk about it cause that wasn’t a thing) HOWEVER getting the proper edge on jumps is very difficult i.e. triple lutz (which uses an outside edge) is harder than a double axel.
Lu is the real winner that night. Though she was technically weaker, she defied all odds to prove herself. Would Kwan or Lipinski be on the podium if they were 25th the year before?
Michelle Kwan performed classical type of flawless and Tara Lipinski performed flawless - more like contemporary type of performance, so both SHOULD receive GOLD MEDALS.
The Olympics is one moment. It doesn't matter as much as you think. Both Michelle and Tara are very happy, as they should be. You might need to rethink your position and stop seeing everything so black and white.
I remember the '98 games like they were yesterday! Tara Lipinski gave the best performance ever and I was literally in hysterics when she won, that's how happy I was. I can't believe it's been 10 years. I know that a lot of people criticized her for immediately turning pro after winning the Gold...but c'mon..think about it...winning the gold medal is as far as you can go. Sure, it would have been great to see her try for a second medal but she proved the first time that she was great. :)
IMHO Michelle's was the best, and she did what every gold medal winner before her did...and then some. The thing is, she is the skater thats so wonderful, she didnt NEED a gold medal to be a legend. say what you wish..but she IS a legend! I'm a nurse and a grandmother, it bothers me because in interviews Tara tells how the dr told her not to do that jump combo, warned her bout her potential injury..she said "without it i wouldnt have th gold, so it was worth it" What kind of mother let her???
I don't get the Michelle hate IMO she is a great skater who I think should have won the Olympic gold. Even though she didn't she's still a great skater and she has earned her place among the best.
Its because she absolutely hated the facts that Tara beat her She was supposed to win gold and she was so upset when Tara won. A lot of people didn't like her attitude
@@Dragoneen what attitude?? She was always gracious- all her competition said as much. Besides Michelle was not the favorite Tara was the reigning world champion.
@lizsha2 Think of this..Kurt Browning is generally acknowledged as being one of the greatest skaters, yet he did not win any Olympic medals ( he would just make so many mistakes). Then there was Ocsana Baiul - her win was a travesty. It is what it is.
@kraxi88 I get the impression that she wasn't being ungrateful but that she was really nervous. When Michelle tried to congratulate her at the very beginning, it looks like Tara asked her a question about the ceremony. If I were only a 15 year old at the Olympics I would want to know what to do during the ceremony so I wouldn't be embarrassed! I don't think she was ever ungrateful, just look at all of her interviews after the Olympics!
Isn't it sad that just 12 years ago the USA dominated the podium with at the ladies event with one of the strongest teams ever. Now we can't even contend internationally.
Tara is not the first woman to land a triple-triple at the Olympics. It was Midori Ito in Calgary. Kristi was also able to land a triple in 1992 and Nancy did it in 1994.
As you may recall, Michelle Kwan had been suffering from a broken foot! Because of that broken foot, which was STILL causing her pain at the Olympics, she could not do her 3toe/3 toe combo. Do you SERIOUSLY think Michelle and her team did not know what Tara was competing with?! Michelle did the best she could with what she was physically capable of executing at the time!
@@carrietremble had michelle added a 3Toe/3Toe beside the 3Lutz/2Toe that she did, i still think it wouldn't matter because tara would have 1 more 3/3 than michelle. she did 3Loop/3Loop and at the end of the program added a 3Toe/1/2Loop/3Salchow that is incredibly difficult, and she was rewarded for that.
@@minavamp2811 Michelle's performance was classic, beautiful and womanly. Tara skated like a Ping Pong. Michelle's artistry was much better than Tara. Michelle should be the winner.
@@minavamp2811 Michelle beat Tara at 1998 US Nationals before the Olympics , which means Michelle's artistry and technique were better. Tara's technique was unstable, Tara fell again and again by the incorrect triple triple combo before the Olympics.
Boy times sure have changed. It’s kind of bittersweet to see these two American girls on the podium at the Olympics, and how but for a few exceptions, American women used to dominate ladies figure skating, and now for the past decade at least they haven’t won anything.
Keegan Thorpe had the result gone the other way, Michelle likely would have gone pro right away and Tara probably would have stayed around at least another four years to go for a gold.
yes indeed both tara and sarah won where it matters most, the olympics. hands down michelle is willing to trade in all her 10 nationals and 5 world titles for 1 olympic title, period.
@JNagarya I'm pretty sure many skaters are not extremely close to each other for a reason: They are competitors. Anyways, Tara left the amatuer skating world too early for us to tell if she could have become better friends with Michelle. All of the other skaters in her professional career seem to have nice things to say about her: Scott Hamilton for example. Just throwing that out there.
Tara never did a proper lutz in her life, under-rotated the second triple in her sequence combo, had a weak spiral and small jumps. She did show a lot of energy. But Michelle has the last laugh, because she is a figure skating legend, while Tara is just a footnote. And before all the Tara fans jump on me, let me say this: I think it's too bad that Tara blew out her hip training for this gold medal, because she was enormously talented. But she never became the skater she might have been.
Michelle and Lu Chen...their artistry were better than Tara, Tara's performance just like a Disney cartoon . Tara had a incorrect triple triple combo to win.....WTF.
@JNagarya Exactly, if she was born in the U.S. regardless of weather or not both her parents or grandparents are polish or yugoslavakian or whatever, as long as she was born in the U.S. on U.S. soil that makes her an american from birth.
She's still Polish American, Even if she's born in the US. I know, because I am also part Polish due to my mom's origin from Poland. And even if I am born in the US, Ii am still considered part Polish. Its the same with Sasha's Ukrainian heritage even if her mother emigrated from the Ukraine to the US. So it does matter in form of sharing something in common with your family heritage. And its not just as an American.
Because it took a lot for her to regain Olympic form after the meltdown relationship with her coach. That girl came from a very modest cultural context and became one of the best artists of the sport. It took 16 years in the making of this moment.
People seemed to forget just how lucky Tara was to be at the Olympics in the first place! Remember the changed the eligible age to 16 but allowed Tara in due to her world championship! She should have acted better off the ice period!
no but tara was the first to land a tripple loop tripple loop. witch it differant to say a tripple toe tirpple lutz or som,ething what they did. loops are harder!
Michelle won how many World Championships in a row? Seven? Nine? She will be the greatest American if not the best women's figure skater in my lifetime. There is no question that she was the finest sportsman and athlete in the sport as well.
I never said they werent to be respected. what are you talking about, i guess you do think for urself, think stuff up that is? And really, if OG was that important, then yeah, they would be as well known. Kristi Yamaguchi is, Dorothy Hamil is, Peggy Flemming, Sonja Henne...come on now. dont be dumb. And NO OG is NOT necessary to be the best of the best, true she isnt champion of olympic GAMES, neither are Nancy, Irina, Kurt, Elvis, etc. Tara knew she was lucky, she left, she couldnt do it again
I realize this is a rather old comment, but I dont care..I just dont like people not qualifying their claims.. As far as Button's comment, I think it was regarding the 2004 Campbells performance (The Debut performance) of Michelle's Bolero program. The fall came during a miss-step during the footwork sequence at the end. Whether it was an error on Michelle's part, or a crevice in the ice is unknown. What is known is that the rest of that performance was pretty great. That is all.
I don't think Tara noticed. I would bet she'd feel a bit overwhelmed seeing as she just wont the olympic gold and perhaps just didn't see Michelle extend her hand.
When you ask someone to name a figure skater, i betcha most ppl will name Michelle Kwan. An Olympic Gold doesn't mean anything. One can win one Olympic Gold or one World Gold Medal and can be forgotten (Oksana Baiul), but one can win so many hearts of fans w/o that one medal (Michelle Kwan, Irina Slutskaya). Don't get me wrong...Tara won it fair and square. She had a good program too. The only unfair Olympic event was 94 when Kerrigan definitely deserved it.
the judging was not fair. as kwan skated first off the last group of girls. so the judges had to save marks for the other skaters. kwans skate was flawless, more joy, exquisite, and definately so painful to watch this moment as she had to deal with just silver. I will never forget this moment, and Tara should be tarnished and her gold should be taken away from her, and be given to the one who deserves it. Kwan - the greatest skater of all time. Look it up EVERYONE.
I agree... If Michelle had skated last, that medal would have been hers. I always felt like the reason Tara retired immediately following those Olympics was because she knew she couldn't really win over Michelle. I have never seen such a beautiful, graceful person on the ice than Michelle Kwan. That's my opinion, anyway... And what was with Tara when Michelle first came out on the ice. At the very beginning of this video, it looks like Michelle put her hand out to shake hands or something and Tara just stood there...
If anything, Tonya Harding should've been "bump[ed off" for her particiipation in the attack on Nancy Kerrigan. But it's safe to assume that if Kerrigan hadn't been attacked, then she and Harding would've ended up in first and second place, respectively. That's why Harding's husband wanted to off Kerrigan, 'cause she was too much competition. She'd already won the bronze medal at the 1992 olympics just two years before so he didn't wanna take any chances.
To finish out of order, sorry this is third in line. but, she said all she wanted was the OGM, well, she got it, and if she'd waited, she probably wouldnt have, due to injury etc. She had the weight of her parents marriage too. Michelle didnt have to worry about all that. I think Michelle should have won, but of the two, Michelle has gone much farther and been more respected without a gold than Tara would have. So its a good thing for her she won the, she NEEDED it. Michelle, the legend, didnt!
michelle didn't get bumped off. the us olympic committee felt that nancy deserved the sport more, and they were right. she had to miss the nationals because of an attack which was totally unfair to her. besides, michelle was only 13 and had many years to come
I was heartbroken for Michelle Kwan for not getting gold in two Olympics. But unarguably, the best female skater. She never needed an Olympic gold medal to prove she's the greatest.
@@karllieck9064 To me she is the greatest because of longevity, maintenance and tenacity. Her shelf life was way longer than most if not all the figure skaters. She is still the most decorated figure skater of all time.
Unfortunately she never brought it together when it counted the most, fair enough that in Nagano since she had her foot injury so she was more conservative, but SLC was hers to lose and a fall and 2 foot were enough to do the damage
@@mht4908 Unfortunately, Michelle got hurt ( her toes ) before the 98 Olympics, so she couldn't make triple triple combo. However, Michelle's artistry was much better than Tara Lipinski. And Tara's technique was overrated to win, Tara's technique wouldn't get marks today. Michelle kwan was robbed.
It,s not bad if you are not expecting any medal. In Michelle's case, she didn't win a silver medal, she lost the gold. In Lu Chen's case, she was just thankful to get bronze, hence the obvious happiness and appreciation.
@@user-yu4xq9xy3d Tara was so lucky to win the Olympics gold, because she didn't really make a correct 3+3. Tara had a kid's body and weight, it's the reason why she could jump higher .
Has any country ever had a ladies team that had 2 skaters as dominating as Kwan and Lipinski were heading into Nagano? Unless something major happened the other skaters were fighting for the bronze.
Yes, the US in 1992. Yamaguchi, Harding and Kerrigan had won gold, silver and bronze at the 1991 World Championships. That was the only time that happened until the 2021 World Championships when the three Russian ladies swept the podium.
Tara was good, but her performance just like a Disney cartoon, and her technique was overrated because she had a incorrect triple triple combo.....Michelle's performance was classic and elegant, totally robbed.
Michelle kwan and Lu Chen were artists on ice. Tara was a jumper , people couldn't ask more artistry of a kid like Tara.(∩▽∩)The ISU raised the age limit to 17 NOW, which means Tara didn't deserve to win and became a funny joke.
I watch Tara more than any other female skater. Love her works in the professional competitions and stars on ice and just recently a video I saw on TikTok at Lake Louise. Gorgeous skater.
Oh man I remember this. I felt SOOOO bad for Michelle and I still do. Not only did she get trumped this year, but the next one as well?!?!? I know that has to hurt more than anything.
@Novak D Michelle did not deserve the win in SLC due to her fall and the 2 foot landing, Sarah also had 2 triple-triples whereas Michelle bailed on hers after 2 footing the first triple toe
@@mht4908 Yes, Michelle should be the winner if she didn't make mistakes. 😥 Michelle challenged herself more than challenged the Olympics, she beat herself, she shouldn't be alone without Frank Carroll.😳 But people know Michelle kwan is more than a Olympics gold.🥰👍👍👍
@@mht4908 It's a accident that Sarah Hughes won the 2002 Olympics. Sarah's technique and artistry were never good enough to win the World championship or the National championship. 😇 Sarah was lucky Olympics Cinderella because the other better skaters like Michelle and Irina made mistakes. 😇 But, even so, Sarah Hughes placed 4th at her SP, that means Irina Slutskaya was robbed and Irina Slutskaya should be the 2002 Olympics winner.😎
to finish...I would NEVER have let that happen, gold or NEVER gold. Tara is to be pitied, she felt that at 15 people were 'against her' because they were for michelle. similar to nancy and kristi, it was kristi's turn that year, and the next time, most every1 was for nancy. Same wouldve happened, had her mom not trashed the Kwans, and had she showed a little respect to Michelle who was ahead of her, we all would have pulled for Tara. In hindsight, its good she won...
@JNagarya It's a joke I got from comedian Margaret Cho who IS asian. Look it up if you don't believe me. And lighten up. If you can't make fun of yourself or laugh at yourself then your not living life. Yes, I'm proud to contribute what I MYSELF think is constructive indeed. What is to me may not be to you. What you find funny I may not and vice versa. I could really careless what YOU think but I got YOUR attention. Thanks for being a fan:) I'm gay btw. Love gay jokes too! White jokes, mexican..
It’s been 20 years but lu Chen s moment still stays in my heard she got emotional was so touching
i love how Lu Chen respected the national anthem and had her right hand over her heart!!
maryanne bowley she had lived in the U.S. for a time and loved it here--she was ordered home by the Chinese Olympic federation. Afraid she was going to defect.
@@ADEAL918 Ordered home? What would have happened if she had simply remained here?
@@hollyjolly2066 well, she would have lost her Chinese citizenship and wouldn’t have been able to complete for them in the Olympics, which is what she was working towards at the time. She couldn’t compete for the US without becoming a citizen and that process takes longer than the amount of time until the next olympics.
I always thought Chen Lu was so gorgeous!
Lu Chen was the most memorable part of the 1998 Olympics for me.
That and Surya Bonaly's in-your-face backflip.
Chen Lu is awesome and so appreciative.
Tara Lipinski should go to the kid's Olympics. (∩▽∩)
@@TT-ee4qp stop your insults please. We all enjoy reading comments and YOURS is rude and terribly insulting. This is 2024......not 1998. Get mental help and please get a life. Stop your keyboard vomit.
Olympics isone single event and performance. If you win the Olympics it does not mean you're the best overall. To me that night the smile and tears of Lu Chen were worth more than gold. She's the best example of elegance and love of the sport honoring it as best she can. Her bronze medal was from the heart.
Maybe not the best overall, but the best that night when it counted.
Before Tara even found out she won she was bawling and after she got her scores with one skater to go she went back stage and cried. Everyone cries. If I skated like they do I'd cry too. Let's just be happy for both of them. They are very talented.
Lu Chen is one of the most beautiful women to ever lace up a pair of skates.
Cameraman loves lu chen so much, the focus was literally on her. Can't blame him though!
I'll just say that Lu Chen's happyness warmed the heart of us all that night...
I usually defend Tara, but she didn't have to shrug Michelle off when she tried to hug her.
Tara sort of said "we only do that on the Podium...not here".
Where as Michelle was genuine and was like "well if you won't hug me I'll hug Lu Chen".
BTW, I love that Lu Chen put her hand over her heart too :)
You did not see Michelle backstage when the camera snuck up on her, read her book, she even said she handled it very immaturely..no WOnder Tara didn't give her a fake hug until she had to.
The World never heard of Tara. After this She Faded away. Ah Bless ,,,, ms.Chen didn't However.
@@tobyrose6906 The world had heard of Tara. She beat Michelle the year before - several times. She's the one who didn't choke.
@@elizabethhurley1129 Just because T was younger and fiter then MK, T is more easier to jump. That's why T gave up figure skating after she won Olympic. Because T would lose her physiological advantage one day.
@@aspenrobinson8797 Tara was a kid...Lol
It is amazing and heart-breaking at the same time, when you have arguably the greatest american skater in history who just couldn't win that Olympic gold...So many championships but not the one she most wanted and deserved...I love you Michelle!!!!!!!
@Mountain Lover yes indeed michelle got what she deserves. tara and sarah skates to win while michelle skates not to lose. they both won where it matters most, the olympics. i am sure michelle is willing to trade in all her 10 national and 5 world titles for 1 olympics title, period.
@@minavamp2811 sarah had the most hideous posture ugh. Sasha Cohen won those Olympics. Michelle should not have been on the podium tbh
@@minavamp2811 You're not MK and don't know her heart, mind, feeling ,character. Be nice.
@@minavamp2811 personally I don't believe she would. As Krisi Yamaguchi said " Michelle Kwan doesn't need an Olympic Gold Medal". :)
@@minavamp2811 Actually, Michelle was more greater than Tara in the history. Enjoy it.
3 really, really great ice skaters are standing there!!
great positivity! I completely agree
22 years ago’ wow how time fly’s i love Chen lu and Michellen Kwan, Tara
My heart just broke for Michelle, you could just see the pain in her eyes. She always deserved the gold, but just could never pull it off due to the pressure, or nerves. She still reigns the most decorated figure skater in history, where I hope she remains forever.
Michelle was robbed and Tara was overrated. Michelle's artistry and technique were better, her performance was classic, beautiful and womanly. Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump , even so , she still didn't make a correct 3+3 to win. Tara retired because she got hurt and grew up, then everything changed.
Tara’s performance was harder and she did 2 triple combinations! Which were superior!!!!!!!!! She deserved all those 5.9s marks
@@23Echeo Tara's flip and lutz would be called out for under rotation today.
Tara's triples were cheap. Tiny, rushed jumps.
Tara's technique was overrated and wouldn't get marks today.
Michelle was robbed.
She got screwed off in 1994 so bad she should have gone then.
@@TT-ee4qp Tara's jumps were like Yulia Lipnitskaya's, very tiny, no height, and relies on spinning the jumps rather than jumping them. Yet Yulia was still scoring high
I think Tara won on the basis of her triples. Michelle's performance was much more artistic, also her body type is more elegant on the ice. If Michelle had had more triples in her program, she would have won. After looking at both programs, I still think Michelle should have won regardless
victoria grant it's not so much the number of triples, it was the triple/triple combinations. Tara had two, Michelle didn't do any. They each had a total of seven triples, it's just that Tara's were harder in combinations than Michelle's. Had Michelle done the same combinations and landed them as flawlessly as Tara did, she likely would have won because her artistic marks were higher than Tara's.
@@ADEAL918 T is younger ,so easier to jump. Watch Russian figure skating girls .
Can't believe it has been 12 years since this happened and people is still arguing about.
Michelle Kwan was a joy to watch all the years of her skating career. A true "complete" skater. Here at the medal presentation she is showing incredible graciousness. She has my respect. Even though Tara lipinski was awarded the gold here, I do not think she was a complete skater. It was a youthful, athletic performance. Alina Zagitova at the same age showed much more polished skating maturity. Lipinski does not stick out as a memorable skater to me. Sometimes it isnt the best skaters who win the gold.
People need to stop being so rude. They are BOTH amazing skater who BOTH deserve praise for their accomplishments. They are the few people in history that get to say they won a medal at the olympics so chill out and be happy for both of them!
You make the most sense amongst these comments ...lol
Lu Chen, the most classy skater I've ever seen in the Olympics.
Tara was the only one Olympics winner who was overrated and had no artistry or elegant......compared to Michelle and Lu Chen.
I'll always remember this Olympics for Lu Chens performance....she's my hero!
Lou Chen was such a beautiful skater to watch and such a class act!!! Michelle was a true hero of skating and an ambassador for the United States. She went the distance in her skating career bringing alot of style and grace to the sport!!! Tara was so young here but after she won the Gold medal there was really no place for her to go. Professional skating is much different from amateur were you had to be to do serious competing. Most skaters don't stay as professionals and find other career choices.
Tara was overrated to win the Olympics gold. Michelle was robbed. Tara's program was a Disney Cartoon, she also had a incorrect triple triple combo.....under the new system, Michelle would be the winner.
I love how nice mIchelle Kwan is! She hugged everyone. Tara was a little bit snooty to her. Michelle was just trying to give her a hug! Michelle was such a good sport anda very nice person
GO MICHELLE KWAN!!!:)
I think you are imagining things... Tara was not being snotty. Nor was Michelle Kwan. They were both happy for each other.
But I do agree that Michelle Kwan is such a nice person.
my bad. watched the rest. I agree with you
Mountain Lover there was some confusions to how to properly mount the podium.
Both Michelle Kwan and Tara Lipinski performed flawless performance, so both should receive GOLD MEDALS.
Just a miracle that Chen could finally fight through those Russian and Russian affiliated judges and beat the Russian skaters standing on the podium.
No.
The axel requires 1 1/2 or 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 rotations for single, double, triple. Lutz is just one rotation. Axels are WAY harder.
This was written 15 years ago but imma say something. Lutz is more difficult for most skaters. For professional skaters 3 rotations is not difficult. So as for the more common double axel it’s not that bad (triple is ultra c so I won’t even talk about it cause that wasn’t a thing) HOWEVER getting the proper edge on jumps is very difficult i.e. triple lutz (which uses an outside edge) is harder than a double axel.
If Tara would have hugged Michelle they would have brought the house down 😮
Lu is the real winner that night. Though she was technically weaker, she defied all odds to prove herself.
Would Kwan or Lipinski be on the podium if they were 25th the year before?
no, because they weren't born there yet
Michelle Kwan performed classical type of flawless and Tara Lipinski performed flawless - more like contemporary type of performance, so both SHOULD receive GOLD MEDALS.
The Olympics is one moment. It doesn't matter as much as you think. Both Michelle and Tara are very happy, as they should be. You might need to rethink your position and stop seeing everything so black and white.
I remember the '98 games like they were yesterday! Tara Lipinski gave the best performance ever and I was literally in hysterics when she won, that's how happy I was. I can't believe it's been 10 years.
I know that a lot of people criticized her for immediately turning pro after winning the Gold...but c'mon..think about it...winning the gold medal is as far as you can go. Sure, it would have been great to see her try for a second medal but she proved the first time that she was great. :)
You were *literally* in hysterics? *Literally*??
IMHO Michelle's was the best, and she did what every gold medal winner before her did...and then some. The thing is, she is the skater thats so wonderful, she didnt NEED a gold medal to be a legend. say what you wish..but she IS a legend! I'm a nurse and a grandmother, it bothers me because in interviews Tara tells how the dr told her not to do that jump combo, warned her bout her potential injury..she said "without it i wouldnt have th gold, so it was worth it" What kind of mother let her???
I don't get the Michelle hate IMO she is a great skater who I think should have won the Olympic gold. Even though she didn't she's still a great skater and she has earned her place among the best.
Its because she absolutely hated the facts that Tara beat her
She was supposed to win gold and she was so upset when Tara won. A lot of people didn't like her attitude
@@Dragoneen what attitude?? She was always gracious- all her competition said as much. Besides Michelle was not the favorite
Tara was the reigning world champion.
@lizsha2 Think of this..Kurt Browning is generally acknowledged as being one of the greatest skaters, yet he did not win any Olympic medals ( he would just make so many mistakes). Then there was Ocsana Baiul - her win was a travesty. It is what it is.
@@Dragoneen You're sick. What you said about Michelle is a lie.
@@Dragoneen Tara was overrated and Michelle was robbed.
Now that I watch this afetr so many years, I think the gold medal belonged to Lu...
God Tara the cameras were obviously watching you when you dissed Michele
There was a confusion of the position of the podium and who should be the first to climb up on it.
I'm amused by the sheer amount of crazy in the comments section of this video.
@kraxi88 I get the impression that she wasn't being ungrateful but that she was really nervous. When Michelle tried to congratulate her at the very beginning, it looks like Tara asked her a question about the ceremony. If I were only a 15 year old at the Olympics I would want to know what to do during the ceremony so I wouldn't be embarrassed! I don't think she was ever ungrateful, just look at all of her interviews after the Olympics!
Lipinski was 15, Kwan was 17.
Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more. Michelle's artistry and technique were better.
Isn't it sad that just 12 years ago the USA dominated the podium with at the ladies event with one of the strongest teams ever. Now we can't even contend internationally.
Because Russia abuses their skaters to win. Sad!
And look at the way she helped Lipinski (horse mouth) figure out what to do. A true professional and will be remembered way after other skaters fade.
JogaOhio LOLOLOLOL!!
ummm
2002 was a good year for US figure skating.
As a descendent of two different tribes, I completely agree with you chowbbkit.
Tara is not the first woman to land a triple-triple at the Olympics. It was Midori Ito in Calgary. Kristi was also able to land a triple in 1992 and Nancy did it in 1994.
As did Debi Thomas in 1988 and Kristi Yamaguchi 1992
Kwan's coaches should have known that Tara could beat her with those jumps and added some higher technique into her program. I mean FFS
As you may recall, Michelle Kwan had been suffering from a broken foot! Because of that broken foot, which was STILL causing her pain at the Olympics, she could not do her 3toe/3 toe combo. Do you SERIOUSLY think Michelle and her team did not know what Tara was competing with?! Michelle did the best she could with what she was physically capable of executing at the time!
@@carrietremble had michelle added a 3Toe/3Toe beside the 3Lutz/2Toe that she did, i still think it wouldn't matter because tara would have 1 more 3/3 than michelle. she did 3Loop/3Loop and at the end of the program added a 3Toe/1/2Loop/3Salchow that is incredibly difficult, and she was rewarded for that.
@@minavamp2811 Tara's performance just like a kid, no artistry. Tara had a incorrect 3+3, so she was overrated.
@@minavamp2811 Michelle's performance was classic, beautiful and womanly. Tara skated like a Ping Pong. Michelle's artistry was much better than Tara. Michelle should be the winner.
@@minavamp2811 Michelle beat Tara at 1998 US Nationals before the Olympics , which means Michelle's artistry and technique were better. Tara's technique was unstable, Tara fell again and again by the incorrect triple triple combo before the Olympics.
Totally! Look at how she just stares her down.
Who stares who down ?
Boy times sure have changed. It’s kind of bittersweet to see these two American girls on the podium at the Olympics, and how but for a few exceptions, American women used to dominate ladies figure skating, and now for the past decade at least they haven’t won anything.
Gorgeous
I love Lu Chen 💪🏼💪🏼👏🏻👏🏻
It's usually the people that don't win gold that leave a lasting impression.
How so?
i agree with you
You think so too? I remember suspecting when I first saw the ceremony, but I always thought it might just be me.
I always felt Lipinski had two good years where as Kwan had a great career.
Exactly!!
Keegan Thorpe had the result gone the other way, Michelle likely would have gone pro right away and Tara probably would have stayed around at least another four years to go for a gold.
@@ADEAL918 AND WON IT!
@Mountain Lover EXACTLY!!💯
yes indeed both tara and sarah won where it matters most, the olympics. hands down michelle is willing to trade in all her 10 nationals and 5 world titles for 1 olympic title, period.
@JNagarya I'm pretty sure many skaters are not extremely close to each other for a reason: They are competitors. Anyways, Tara left the amatuer skating world too early for us to tell if she could have become better friends with Michelle. All of the other skaters in her professional career seem to have nice things to say about her: Scott Hamilton for example. Just throwing that out there.
She was a customer at my mom's store and my mom said she was extremely pleasant and even invited my mom to her Kiawah island home
I hardly remember Lipinski or Kwan from these Olympics. Lu Chen's appearance outshone them both, even if she wasn't technically as good as them.
Tara never did a proper lutz in her life, under-rotated the second triple in her sequence combo, had a weak spiral and small jumps. She did show a lot of energy. But Michelle has the last laugh, because she is a figure skating legend, while Tara is just a footnote. And before all the Tara fans jump on me, let me say this: I think it's too bad that Tara blew out her hip training for this gold medal, because she was enormously talented. But she never became the skater she might have been.
Michelle Kwan will always be the queen of skating Tara Lipinski was just a brat who wanted to win and that's all matter to her
Don't send me another response so what I say if you don't like it don't read it
And I did not say that where you got my name it!!!
@@bettyglover7552 Didn't Michelle want to win as well?
those were some of the most prettiest medals. It is a shame that Michelle was robbed. She is still the best.
@@hollyjolly2066 Tara was overrated.
Wasn't there anyone there to tell them where to stand?
Michelle should have been the Gold medalist.
Michelle and Lu Chen...their artistry were better than Tara, Tara's performance just like a Disney cartoon . Tara had a incorrect triple triple combo to win.....WTF.
spacekangaroo is from Canada.
forget tara. go michelle kwan. she is a true skater.
@JNagarya Exactly, if she was born in the U.S. regardless of weather or not both her parents or grandparents are polish or yugoslavakian or whatever, as long as she was born in the U.S. on U.S. soil that makes her an american from birth.
She's still Polish American, Even if she's born in the US. I know, because I am also part Polish due to my mom's origin from Poland. And even if I am born in the US, Ii am still considered part Polish. Its the same with Sasha's Ukrainian heritage even if her mother emigrated from the Ukraine to the US. So it does matter in form of sharing something in common with your family heritage. And its not just as an American.
Credit: datalounge
What was that very awkward moment at 0:08 about? Seems like Michelle wanted to hold Tara's hand, but she kind of retracted it. o_o
Hawaiian Paradise I know right
Because it took a lot for her to regain Olympic form after the meltdown relationship with her coach. That girl came from a very modest cultural context and became one of the best artists of the sport. It took 16 years in the making of this moment.
lutzes are the hardest jump after the axels.
People seemed to forget just how lucky Tara was to be at the Olympics in the first place! Remember the changed the eligible age to 16 but allowed Tara in due to her world championship! She should have acted better off the ice period!
drljrbear yes I believe the spot would have went to Tonia Kwiokowski
Tara had a kid's body and weight so easier to jump, nothing more. Actually, Tara got hurt by the jumps and retired because she grew up.
I'm proud even if there is no canadian on this podium, because that was tree greet skaters and that was my tree favorites out of canadian skaters!
no but tara was the first to land a tripple loop tripple loop. witch it differant to say a tripple toe tirpple lutz or som,ething what they did. loops are harder!
Michelle won how many World Championships in a row? Seven? Nine?
She will be the greatest American if not the best women's figure skater in my lifetime. There is no question that she was the finest sportsman and athlete in the sport as well.
@@hollyjolly2066 Michelle won 5 World medals and 9 US titles, she also got the most 6.0 ( 57 times ) in the history.
I never said they werent to be respected. what are you talking about, i guess you do think for urself, think stuff up that is? And really, if OG was that important, then yeah, they would be as well known. Kristi Yamaguchi is, Dorothy Hamil is, Peggy Flemming, Sonja Henne...come on now. dont be dumb. And NO OG is NOT necessary to be the best of the best, true she isnt champion of olympic GAMES, neither are Nancy, Irina, Kurt, Elvis, etc. Tara knew she was lucky, she left, she couldnt do it again
So much more class and dignity than today’s Olympics. Beijing is a disaster.
The ISU raised the age limit to 17 NOW, which means Tara Lipinski and the Russian girls today all should go to the kid's Olympics.
I realize this is a rather old comment, but I dont care..I just dont like people not qualifying their claims..
As far as Button's comment, I think it was regarding the 2004 Campbells performance (The Debut performance) of Michelle's Bolero program. The fall came during a miss-step during the footwork sequence at the end. Whether it was an error on Michelle's part, or a crevice in the ice is unknown. What is known is that the rest of that performance was pretty great.
That is all.
@JNagarya. Stating facts. Prove she won an Olympic Gold (Special Olympics Gold does NOT count).
I don't think Tara noticed. I would bet she'd feel a bit overwhelmed seeing as she just wont the olympic gold and perhaps just didn't see Michelle extend her hand.
When you ask someone to name a figure skater, i betcha most ppl will name Michelle Kwan. An Olympic Gold doesn't mean anything. One can win one Olympic Gold or one World Gold Medal and can be forgotten (Oksana Baiul), but one can win so many hearts of fans w/o that one medal (Michelle Kwan, Irina Slutskaya). Don't get me wrong...Tara won it fair and square. She had a good program too. The only unfair Olympic event was 94 when Kerrigan definitely deserved it.
Tara was overrated at the 1998 Olympics, but it's not her fault.
Oksana wasn't forgettable, I know this comment was made before Sochi but Adelina Sotnikova was the forgettable (and rigged) one
the judging was not fair. as kwan skated first off the last group of girls. so the judges had to save marks for the other skaters. kwans skate was flawless, more joy, exquisite, and definately so painful to watch this moment as she had to deal with just silver. I will never forget this moment, and Tara should be tarnished and her gold should be taken away from her, and be given to the one who deserves it. Kwan - the greatest skater of all time. Look it up EVERYONE.
Why should Tara be tarnished? What did she do that was wrong?
I agree... If Michelle had skated last, that medal would have been hers. I always felt like the reason Tara retired immediately following those Olympics was because she knew she couldn't really win over Michelle. I have never seen such a beautiful, graceful person on the ice than Michelle Kwan. That's my opinion, anyway...
And what was with Tara when Michelle first came out on the ice. At the very beginning of this video, it looks like Michelle put her hand out to shake hands or something and Tara just stood there...
If anything, Tonya Harding should've been "bump[ed off" for her particiipation in the attack on Nancy Kerrigan. But it's safe to assume that if Kerrigan hadn't been attacked, then she and Harding would've ended up in first and second place, respectively. That's why Harding's husband wanted to off Kerrigan, 'cause she was too much competition. She'd already won the bronze medal at the 1992 olympics just two years before so he didn't wanna take any chances.
allenglandlawns: Beautiful comment! I completely agree with you. Perhaps two of the greatest 1st and 2nd place performances in olympic history.
A artist and a jumper.....
prob both
To finish out of order, sorry this is third in line. but, she said all she wanted was the OGM, well, she got it, and if she'd waited, she probably wouldnt have, due to injury etc. She had the weight of her parents marriage too. Michelle didnt have to worry about all that. I think Michelle should have won, but of the two, Michelle has gone much farther and been more respected without a gold than Tara would have. So its a good thing for her she won the, she NEEDED it. Michelle, the legend, didnt!
@Mountain Lover you are sooooo right with this statement. I thought the exact same thing!!
michelle didn't get bumped off. the us olympic committee felt that nancy deserved the sport more, and they were right. she had to miss the nationals because of an attack which was totally unfair to her. besides, michelle was only 13 and had many years to come
Tonya should have been bumped off and Michelle could have skated at the olympics without all the pressure as the favorite in 98 and 02.
I was heartbroken for Michelle Kwan for not getting gold in two Olympics. But unarguably, the best female skater. She never needed an Olympic gold medal to prove she's the greatest.
She was not the greatest.
@@karllieck9064 To me she is the greatest because of longevity, maintenance and tenacity. Her shelf life was way longer than most if not all the figure skaters. She is still the most decorated figure skater of all time.
Unfortunately she never brought it together when it counted the most, fair enough that in Nagano since she had her foot injury so she was more conservative, but SLC was hers to lose and a fall and 2 foot were enough to do the damage
@@mht4908
So what you mean ? ☻️
@@mht4908
Unfortunately, Michelle got hurt ( her toes ) before the 98 Olympics, so she couldn't make triple triple combo.
However, Michelle's artistry was much better than Tara Lipinski.
And Tara's technique was overrated to win, Tara's technique wouldn't get marks today.
Michelle kwan was robbed.
Agreed. Lipinski was a one-trick show pony who quit while she was ahead. Michelle appeared in 3 Olympics and won 7-9 (?) Worlds. She did NOT give up.
On Wikipedia, it shows that Michelle won 5 World competitions.
💘 Hey - silver's not so bad 🥈
It,s not bad if you are not expecting any medal. In Michelle's case, she didn't win a silver medal, she lost the gold. In Lu Chen's case, she was just thankful to get bronze, hence the obvious happiness and appreciation.
@@user-yu4xq9xy3d Tara was so lucky to win the Olympics gold, because she didn't really make a correct 3+3. Tara had a kid's body and weight, it's the reason why she could jump higher .
@@user-yu4xq9xy3d Michelle won 5 world medals and 9 US titles, she kept top more than 10 years. Tara left because she couldn't make 3+3 anymore.
Now the ISU raised the age limit to 17 NOW, which means Tara Lipinski didn't deserve the Olympics gold and became a funny story.
Has any country ever had a ladies team that had 2 skaters as dominating as Kwan and Lipinski were heading into Nagano? Unless something major happened the other skaters were fighting for the bronze.
Yes, the US in 1992. Yamaguchi, Harding and Kerrigan had won gold, silver and bronze at the 1991 World Championships. That was the only time that happened until the 2021 World Championships when the three Russian ladies swept the podium.
Kwas skated first 'cause she chose the number first. That's how they choose whom gets to skate when.
This was so wrong Michelle deserved better
Tara was good, but her performance just like a Disney cartoon, and her technique was overrated because she had a incorrect triple triple combo.....Michelle's performance was classic and elegant, totally robbed.
@getrealandsee i really don't think anything compares to the creaming tara got at the 1998 nationals. how many perfect scores did michelle rack up?
Michelle got the most 6.0 ( 57 times ) in the history. Where was Tara ?
ahh! i was so mad when tara won :(
@@hazeleyees And Tara needed artistry.
Michelle kwan and Lu Chen were artists on ice. Tara was a jumper , people couldn't ask more artistry of a kid like Tara.(∩▽∩)The ISU raised the age limit to 17 NOW, which means Tara didn't deserve to win and became a funny joke.
I watch Tara more than any other female skater. Love her works in the professional competitions and stars on ice and just recently a video I saw on TikTok at Lake Louise. Gorgeous skater.
@@fanc.5711 Should I care ?😙😙😙
Where did I state Tara did a proper layback? NO WHERE! Get over it.
Oh man I remember this. I felt SOOOO bad for Michelle and I still do. Not only did she get trumped this year, but the next one as well?!?!? I know that has to hurt more than anything.
@Novak D Michelle did not deserve the win in SLC due to her fall and the 2 foot landing, Sarah also had 2 triple-triples whereas Michelle bailed on hers after 2 footing the first triple toe
@@mht4908
Yes, Michelle should be the winner if she didn't make mistakes. 😥
Michelle challenged herself more than challenged the Olympics, she beat herself, she shouldn't be alone without Frank Carroll.😳
But people know Michelle kwan is more than a Olympics gold.🥰👍👍👍
@@mht4908
It's a accident that Sarah Hughes won the 2002 Olympics.
Sarah's technique and artistry were never good enough to win the World championship or the National championship. 😇
Sarah was lucky Olympics Cinderella because the other better skaters like Michelle and Irina made mistakes. 😇
But, even so, Sarah Hughes placed 4th at her SP, that means Irina Slutskaya was robbed and Irina Slutskaya should be the 2002 Olympics winner.😎
@@mht4908 And Sarah's terrible jumps.........🤭🤭🤭
@novakd1530 What do you mean Sarah skated beautifully. It was a once in a lifetime performance. She deserved that Gold.
That result was a mistake...
If Michelle won.. would Tara have been graceful in loss? Character is shown in the tough times. I don't think so.
to finish...I would NEVER have let that happen, gold or NEVER gold. Tara is to be pitied, she felt that at 15 people were 'against her' because they were for michelle. similar to nancy and kristi, it was kristi's turn that year, and the next time, most every1 was for nancy. Same wouldve happened, had her mom not trashed the Kwans, and had she showed a little respect to Michelle who was ahead of her, we all would have pulled for Tara. In hindsight, its good she won...
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Tara's accomplishments could not even fill a page, no one remembers her gold medal.
The general public believes Michelle Kwan won olympic gold. No one remembers Tara or Sarah. Just the facts....
@@sherryanng19 So then why didn't she win the gold? I never saw the Olympics that year, but what's all the fuss about? Lol..
It's obvious Tara hates Michelle.
Tara was overrated to win the Olympics and she skated under Michelle's shadow......That's why Tara hated Michelle.
I know that you are a Michelle hater so what skaters do you like?