“Toxic masculinity is a fear that you are powerless” Eddie Marsan on finding ambition in chaos
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2023
- He is an actor who would be hard to typecast, but Eddie Marsan always plays the villain. “I think it has a lot to do with my upbringing”, he says, “there was a lot of violence, criminality and a lot of toxic masculinity.”
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“I remember being afraid of white working class men. When you see Danny Dyer, Ray Winstone… they have an appeal to them, and I've never been able to do that. And it's because of my experience growing up within the white working class; there was always an element of fear.”
Today on Ways to Change the World, Eddie Marsan joins Krishnan Guru-Murthy to discuss his chaotic upbringing, lessons in Buddhist teachings, and how actors from privileged backgrounds can find success despite being “mediocre”.
Produced by Imahn Robertson
Warning: This episode contains offensive language
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once you sell your soul to the devil you cannot get it back
Both the devil and the 'soul' (as something which is divisible from brain) are fairy tales.
collecting shekels from his hollywood masters
It’s odd Eddie never ever ever criticises Israel
There is no toxic masculinity, only toxic behavior. What is toxic is the gendering of toxic behavior as masculine.
Yup, well put👏✌
If you wanna be successful, you most take responsibility for your emotions, not place the blame on others. In addition to make you feel more guilty about your faults, pointing the finger at others will only serve to increase your sense of personal accountability. There's always a risk in every investment, yet people still invest and succeed. You must look outward if you wanna be successful in life.
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watched
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Being a man is difficult. The easiest way out is through toxic masculinity and isolation. And it makes you the weakest man.
Christ. I've only seen him act. What an incredible mind!
There's nothing more toxic than describing the good men of this world as 'toxic'. The irony 🙄
He’s a Jew.
@@DrippinginSarcasm Ah yes, antisemitism is definitely going to show that you're one of the good men.
@Sydneysider1980wokey cokey
@@LeidolfrJeremy covin is not raciste
@@rahuldahoob so wacist
Eddie Marsan just changed my life. Dealing with the struggle of being defined and self-determination. Every word he said reflected my life, living with prejudice from my own family and white people when dealing with self-identity inside Britain and within countries inside Europe where I have lived. 100% interview. Thanks a lot. I needed this.
I’m white working class and dealing with childhood trauma. He’s really helped me too. I’m also very ambitious - trying to flee the chaos.
@@MattheKendrickGood for you! How does the saying go? The greatest scam against the poor was to make them believe that they have less in common with each other than they actually do.
If a person who acts out the dramatic dialogue of other writers, just changed your life, you need to do some serious introspection, get your life together, and stop being so intellectually lazy.
@@bruisersdilemma354 You are truly impoverished if you fail to see the actor's life story as nothing but inspirational.
There is no such thing as toxic masculinity . Only toxic people.
Toxic masculinity is a fear of competent, confident and powerful men because it reminds other people of their flaws, weaknesses and inadequacies. We also experience a phobia of confident men because, inherent in the male psyche, there is the capacity for violence (generally at a greater level than the feminine can manifest). We often misconstrue their lack of anxiety and their willingness to be assertive, as an indicator of them requiring less compulsion to enact violence.
The irony is, obviously, that the exact opposite is true. It is those males who are unwilling to assert themselves and feel unable to express their inherent masculinity, that are the most likely to enact violence. It is those same males who fall down the rabbit holes of extreme ideology, on the right and left.
The right wing is not a home for effeminate or emasculated men. I agree with the rest of your comment though.
@EnKrypt utter nonsense. The way you have written your argument really comes across with an unwavering certainty that you are right to the point of being inexorable. Not all powerful men or women in this world are the cave men you aspire to, majority are not like that at all. However there is a number of the population who put the cave men/monkey way of life on a pedestal out of an almost primitive instinct, these same people lean in to in all of their decision making and hope for simpler times, they themselves tend not to even be the cave men they are sycophants of and live in a complete fantasyland telling everyone else to be like them.
Rubbish. Toxic masculinity is the fantasy of a bygone age where men had all the power and women were subdued. Literally - the Andrew Tate’s of the world would prefer to live with the Taliban. No wonder Tate pretends of be a Muslim.
@@PutinshouldfundBLM-jq4ov Have you not seen Trumpcultists?
Interesting comments, well expressed
hes such an inspiration
Eddie just described my upbringing in such a succinct way. Thank you.
What a lovely man.
He’s on the wrong side of class consciousness.
The man is a legend. Hs articulation and his career speak for themselves, but he clearly has deep insight. A fantastic interview.
Excellent discussion, very interesting guy, insightful intuitive empathetic. Consciousness is incredibly thought provoking as is Buddhism ✌
One can make anything toxic. Working out if good for you but it can clearly be overdone and taking over your entire life.
Masculinity is not negative as such but there are bad sides/risks with it like voilince (and excessive risk taking).
Fear is what drives many bad things. Fear of being not masculine enough seem to me be what drives many to do toxic masulinity things?
Your definition of "masculinity" is a completely arbitrary stereotype
@PMMagro, brilliantly deduced
Some people do toxic things because they think it shows / proves they are masculine.
Rather good.
The last thing this movie was was a thought provoking drama.
These quaint little buzz words and phrases like toxic masculinity are amusing.
Individuals display what could be described as toxic behaviour, men and women, boys and girls of all ethnicities and social classes. Some people seek to distort the reality of this aspect of humanity, maybe they just struggle to understand it.
Yes especially women
Eddie Marsan as Mr Norrell.💘
I finished the series recently and it was incredible!!
My goodness these podcasts are awesome... What an intelligent and diverse exchange that makes you think.
What an interesting intelligent bloke. Nice to hear from someone from a diverse working class background. I havent actually seen hardly any antisemitism from the far left though. Though there were / are plenty of accusations.
what a wonderful interview. Eddie , check Fernando Pessoa...it may appeal to you. Big Up Krishnan..good timing. Love from AU. FK Brexit.
Beautiful. Inspiring.
Really reflective and interesting interview.
Eddie Marsan is such a great storyteller. I want to him to write books.
😮 This is 🤯
If there was a quantity leap in anatomy and physics , to the point where women could use and carry electricity my gut says 1 that might not be safe or healthy , 2 men would too.
Its really sad to hear the AI, digital apps and robotics will strip men of their ladder and productivity and eventuality providee status as we mourn that infertility in men snd women have declined dramatically. It's also sad to see more non Grandparents where they die in old age without grandkids. There is a huge cost coming from last 20 years as the World becomes the worst parts of Japan. Single people living in high rise units alone, bored and die younger. If all that makes you angry, you should be, we have deprived generations behind us of what it means to be human beings. Like during covid lockdowns, we are removing families from socialising and opportunity to procreate and have stable housing and a purpose. We need to activate parents and their generations to tell the Politicians we are upset. They won't listen to you people because they aren't 60% of the population: the old are.
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wonderful man
Mr. Marsan is always very articulate and kind. One of the best actors working today.
This is awesome
What an interesting interview ^_^
A fine actor....
Nice one.
Wonderful interview with a wonderful man!
Very inspiring man 🙏🏽
Thank you for interviewing this man.
Toxic masculinity is KNOWING you are powerless, like we all are, but having a tantrum about it rather than using the political process.
The political process doesn't work bro
Brilliant interview 👌🏿
It's just all so tiring
What an intetesting man. Great actor.
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💜💜💜💜💜
Utterly fantastic. What a lovely thoughtful and inspiring man.
You could stop triggering survivors, like a predator.
'Good wombs have borne bad sons'. Since the beginning of history
Toxic Masculinity is not a fear thar you are powerless. I do not agree with that statement at all.
Same old boring regurgitated liberal mumbo jumbo.
Surely channel 4 isn’t your bag if you don’t favour ‘liberal’ discussion. Have you tried GBN or maybe even Stormfront? Seems more your speed, BYE
@A S GBN loves diversity almost as much as you do. Your ideology is unnatural poison and it's why it's now dying globally.
Cope harder
@Based Heterophobe There are only 2 genders.
Yeah, another self hater with cap in hand at the feet of the minority majority control system.
His kids will never go hungry
No to vaccine passports, mandates or lockdowns
That's so 2020
Is this going to be wokey cokey??
Afraid so, they’re all at it here
Why not join in? :) you can't fight progress, Rahul.
There’s a genocidal agenda against the white working class.
wow # what a human being # as well as being one of the best actors on the planet
Horrible man!!
Hilarious ROBOT COMMENTARY 🤖
There's no such thing as toxic masculinity. This how men actually are. And you are trying to force men to not be men.
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So you think men should be violent and abusive to their partner to the extent the woman needs a court order to try and remain safe.....? That's toxic masculinity. it's a choice, but no man _has_ to be that way.
I accidently watched this whilst watching the show ray donovan :( spoiler
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