Truth & Rumors Regarding The FUTURE of Steel Curtain at Kennywood!
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- The Steel Curtain roller coaster located at Kennywood in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is known to be a VERY problematic ride. Not to mention, it is again currently temporarily closed due to maintenance and mechanical issues. In this video, I undercover and share with you the TRUTH and rumors regarding the uncertain future of this iconic ride!
Make sure to let me know in the comments below all of your thoughts on this situation regarding Steel Curtain at Kennywood! 👇
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They announced today that it will be closed for the entire year. They have had major issues with all of their rides the past 5-10 years, with several often being closed for long periods of time. Their quality of staff has also severely declined. It's a shame as it was once one of the best hidden secrets around as far as amusement parks go.
I heard that... It's a bummer, but hopefully, at least they can fix the ride's issues permanently.
My advice for anyone planning to visit Kennywood: Go with the expectation Steel Curtain will not be open. I went for the first time last year and really enjoyed the park despite Steel Curtain not being open. Phantom's Revenge is an elite hyper and possibly has the best 2nd drop I have ever experienced on a coaster!
If you are expecting for Steel Curtain to be open when you visit Kennywood you may have a bad time at the park.
Unfortunately that could be the very true case... Time will have to tell.
Phantom is a great time regardless. Phantom's Revenge is my 3rd favorite coaster and even after a decade of rides, that ejector never gets old!
This is a bucket list coaster for me, but its reliability makes Lightning Rod look like Mako!
Very true! Hopefully we can see it re-open soon!
It would cost millions to get rid of it and would be a complete disaster for the park
I'm really hoping it can stay at the park and re-open soon! 🤞
@@KatiesCoasters its closed for the entire year :(
Kennywood needs a large capacity B&M coaster ...they're reliability is unmatched...the phantoms revenge is always running....steel curtain should have been that ... hopefully they can make it more reliable it is a really amazing coaster to ride
Absolutely! Hopefully we can see the Steel Curtain re-open again soon!
Ugh. I’m visiting Kennywood this summer just to get on this coaster. Hope it’s open.
Really hoping that it can be open for you!! 🤞
We were lucky that it was open on our visit! Was a one and done for me though. Had a horrible vibration!
@@Marty_NZ Lucky you! I hear you need to sit in the front not to get the rattle.
@@Marty_NZ I sat in the 2nd row and I felt the vibration too. It was unpleasant but not too horrible for me. I thought about riding it again but after a massive line started forming, it ended up being a one and done for me as well
@@blathersb such a shame as the layout is really good.
I went on the opening day in 2019 for this coaster. Rode it 3 times and it was one of the best coasters I’ve been on. Others being Steel Vengeance and Velocicoaster.
That's really amazing to hear!!
It definitely looks to be a fantastic roller coaster!
Below is a link to the document that was put on Reddit stating what the issues were wrong with the Coaster and why. The park was at fault also because they were pressuring the manufacturer to make it cheaper. Everything is stated in the link above.
Oh very interesting!
not seeing any link
Went in August of 2020. This thing sat dormant all day. Couldn’t even see the new themed area… I think this should be an easy win, and hopefully an eye opener that parks need to stop cheating out and going with the cheapest options. I hope I get to get back and somehow ride it at least once.
That's literally so sad...
Really hoping the park and manufacturer can get things figured out properly so this ride can re-open soon!
It didnt open in 2020 at all. They were getting new seatbelts
@@HockeyGUY66871 Which totally sounds like something that would take a year, haha. Ya know? Ridiculous.
@@jonny-b4954 the parks excuse was Covid. I agree, it should not have taken that long, the park was only open from mid July thru Labor Day that year. It was 2020 after all. Its my home park, i know, trust me. Basically all Park employees know me by name. It had seat belts originally that didnt lock, and Palace being the stupid idiots they are, threw a huge hissy fit about it.
Great video! I didnt realize before this coaster had this many problems. Looks like they should have went with the Mach Rides Hypercoaster with 10 inversions. I enjoyed watching!
Yeah it's very unfortunate to see this coaster going through all the downtime and issues it has been lately... Hoping we can see it re-open soon though! Thank you so much for watching Michael! Very glad you enjoyed!
@KatiesCoasters You're very welcome! Yeah hopefully it reopens soon and they can fix these issues.
A goal in life for me is to ride Steel Curtain wearing a Ravens jersey 😂
Haha, that'd be too funny Zach!! 🤣
I've been on it 2 different times in 2 different years and have only ridden it in Browns shirts.
You can do it…. It won’t help your team win tho. 😂
--the concrete footers have not experienced any subsidence, cracking or issues / soil compaction tests before construction were done and the soil is excellent for stability / the footers have been measured with lasers and have not moved outside of tolerances / any reports to the contrary are false
--the ride's issues are minor but there is a cost to correct / this is where the issues present--who is going to pay for remediation?
--concept and design process is fluid for any project as it was with SC / KW wanted certain specs (i.e records), wanted SC to fit in a specific area with an unique and restrictive footprint and had a modest budget
--during design SC was "value engineered" / conventional lift / 2 train ops / pressure was put on S&S from KW which put pressure on their staff- and subcontractors / engineers / to meet lofty specs without lofty budgets including decreasing the budget after RFPs were solicited
--the supports were engineered closer to the margins to save money and also fit the restrictive footprint
--4D CAD and computer simulations of load were calculated and within limits
--despite all of our tech it is impossible to always 100% simulate every force for every design / this is in all industries--construction, autos, space, defense , aviation ect
--the ride has some forces in excess of what was simulated but not in excess of safe tolerances / this would not be an issue had the support structure been built with a higher margin of load but it was not to save money
--videos online show the movement of the structure--again well within safety tolerances--but not within economic maintenance tolerances
--steel as well as all structures and construction materials MUST flex, expand and contract / if steel did not have this ability it would behave like glass when stressed and loaded
--repeated flexing does cause metal fatigue but that is calculated and engineered into the designs and maintenance / think of a nuclear submarine when it dives the hull contracts several inches at max depths
--the movement of SC during operations has created harmonic resonance which accounts for the rattle as reported and felt / this leads to excessive strain on the bolts compounded with the excessive movement of the supports thus causing the design life of the bolts to be much shorter than anticipated / the bang heard during operation was a single bolt shearing (absolutely no danger to anyone) each bolt attachment is safety redundant multiple times
--high grade bolts are expensive and time consuming to replace / supply chain shortages compound the issue
--the train issue was a spec change w the restraints per the State requiring changes / this is not as uncommon or surprising as it might sound / cities, counties and states change specs especially fire and safety specs literally all the time during construction requiring retrofits / train mods were a one time thing and have been completed / again no safety issues just dealing with bureaucratic red tape but resolved (anyone dealing with government understands this)
--solution has already engineered and--i have already shared more than i should hence this throwaway account--but the additional supports have already been engineered and are in production / will be installed this off season / new bolts throughout / retesting w water dummies and recert to happen this off season
--the lawyers just have to figure out who pays the bills / this is what has taken so long and the issue is how much KW has to pay bc of the value engineering pressure but at the same time how much S&S has to pay because at what point should they have drawn a hard line and said you can't meet all of these specs AND have a low maint / reliable coaster with this budget
--a new net will be installed where the track is at it lowest point over the walk way
Summation: SC is safe, needs additional supports to lower maint costs and increase reliability and overall design life / safety is not and has not ever been an issue
All parties are committed to having the ride open next season and the fix is the fix and no more issues other than regular long term maint
There is a new rumor swirling that Kennywood might remove Steel Curtain. The construction crews that were gonna be doing the work on it came here 6 weeks ago, they were here for 2 days, then they left and have not returned.
Removing it is honestly the best thing for everyone, remove and get a new coaster that will operate.
As for Kennywood, I really think you should come to the park this year, Phantoms Revenge is a world class hyper. Phantom is worth the trip alone,
I Seen a rumor that they have to Rebuild the Steel Curtain From The Ground Up. If that is true then they Should Have Mack Rides to Rebuild It .
I like how this is may be S&S's most conventional coaster and it's perhaps the leadt reliable.
Yes, it's very unfortunate...
Hopefully we can see this ride in operation again soon! Thanks for watching!
It's an incredible ride when it's open. So smooth and whippy with great restraints. Unfortunately, it only seems like it's open 30% of the time (or less). Really hope for this ride to last and have its reliability issues resolved!
Most definitely! It very much appears to be a fantastic coaster! Hoping that we can see it re-open again soon! Thanks for watching Jason! :)
Wait they were offered a Mack Hyper Coaster for only 28 million!? Why didn’t they go with that? S&S coasters are pretty much always unreliable. And even if the Mack coaster was a bit out of there budget they probably could have gotten a smaller scale B&M for around 25 million, like a floorless coaster, dive coaster or a smaller wing coaster. I mean Gate keeper only cost Cedar Point around 30 million.
It definitely would've been cool to see, that's for sure!
Gatekeeper never has a line either! It started my hate for B&M. The ride is so boring! I don’t understand when anyone says they should put more B&M coasters up, giant yawn.
@@cmartin2304 You hate B&M because you don’t like one of there coasters? I don’t really think your understand what’s going on here. First of all when Cedar point buys coasters they don’t want every coaster to be a super intense fast one. Gatekeeper is a coaster that appeals to all audiences and is a perfect “beginner” coaster for people who aren’t ready for the bigger ones like Steel Vengeance, Millennium, Maverick and more. Second of all not all B&Ms are “boring”. I mean Raptors literally in the same park?! You think that’s boring. I could name so many intense B&Ms. Just because you dislike Gatekeeper doesn’t mean you need to diss on the whole company.
@Coasters4life_ exactly...when I visit cp I have an array of coaster intense to choose, while keeper isn't maverick it's a fun awesome swooping ride I love. And the keyholes.
Visiting Kennywood is on my bucket list but I'm more looking forward to doing Phantoms Revenge than Steel Curtain. Steel Curtain would be a close second.
Kennywood definitely looks like an awesome park with great roller coasters! Hoping we can see Steel Curtain re-open soon! 🤞
@@KatiesCoasters Which coaster would you be more excited for Phantoms Revenge or Steel Curtain?
@@user-wy6sh9gh8d Probably Steel Curtain, but both look great!
Well it just closed for the entire season 3 days before opening day.
I heard that... 😢
After hearing this coaster has been closed more than it has been open, I feel lucky to have ridden it during my only ever visit to Kennywood. That being said it still had it issues, with a lengthy delay at the start of the day in addition to only 1 train in use. And let me tell you having to wait for that 1 train to come back is painful. It takes its sweet time crawling up the lift hill 😆
Hey atleast you had the chance to ride it during your visit!! When operating, it appears to be a really great coaster! Hopefully it can re-open soon! Thanks for watching!
I realy
Don’t think it’s as bad as people say reliability wise as someone who goes weekly it is opened 90% and or the majority of the time and when it is opened it typically is up all day!
When Steel Curtain is open, it does appear to be running very well! The park and manufacturer just need to get things settled out properly so it's not down for maintenance issues at long periods of time like it currently is. Thanks for watching!
Ok....now I understand why I have not heard anyone talking about S.C. ..... it has been closed. Visited Kenny woods a long time ago and I can say that it's worth visiting with or without Steel Curtain.
Yes, Kennywood still seems to be a great park with or without Steel Curtain. Hopefully we can see it re-open again soon! Thanks for watching!
Jeez! I didn't know it had so many issues! I was lucky to ride it when I went back in June. Perfectly good coaster!
Yep, kinda crazt right?!
Atleast you got to experience and enjoy it when you went! Thanks for watching!
This ride is delaying my return to Kennywood since my last visit. so its also costing the park other indirectly if others arent coming back till this is fixed haha
Definitely for sure! Hoping we can see this ride in operation again soon!
Thanks for watching!
I really hope it opens this year, I told my brother I would take him on it when we go in May. In all honesty I would hate to see the coaster go despite it having so many issues, it’s my favorite one at Kennywood and the last time I rode it was in October 2022 and I enjoyed my 2 rides on it. I love Kennywood so much so I hope they keep it just for a little longer 🥺
I could very well see it opening soon this year if everything goes over smoothly! It looks like such a great coaster! Thanks for watching Emily!
@@KatiesCoasters Yw Katie! Trust me it’s a very thrilling coaster for sure, just wish it didn’t have so many issues 😞
I hadn't heard of the possibility of the Mach Rides coaster 😢. That would have been sweet. I do like SC though when it is running.
Purely from a business perspective, I can't see Kennywood removing Steel Curtain after dropping $20 million into it 5 years ago. I'm guessing there will be some settlement, that includes repairs and upgrades being made at somewhat discounted prices. Ps, kudos to a great channel! New subscriber here!
I agree, that is very true! Really hoping the park and manufacturer can properly get things settled out with this ride. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing! 😃
And they just announced steel curtain will be closed for the entire 2024 season!
That's such a bummer, but hopefully, that means they can fix the ride's issues permanently.
We’ll have to see an how steel curtain’s uptime is going to be because my first visit to Kennywood was back in August 2023 and it was closed due to structural issues and it’s the only coaster I’m missing at Kennywood of the coasters they have and I might go back if it’s up and running again if not steel curtain I may have to skip this coaster all because of its temperamental (huge R.I.P)
The whole situation regarding this coaster is very unfortunate...
Just really hoping the park and manufacturer can properly get things figured out.
Been on this ride a few times, its ranked 4th for me and it’s an awesome ride. From what I’ve heard Kennywood spent practically all of it’s downtime last year fixing the bolts which were cheaply made (partially Kennywoods fault for being unwilling to shed extra cash to do it right) and should fix the problem. We’ll have to wait and see but this ride isn’t going anywhere considering the cost it took to build
Though I haven't ridden, Steel Curtain appears to be a really great coaster! Hoping the park and manufacturer can properly settle things out so we can see this ride in operation again soon! Thanks for watching! :)
I rode it once and it was awesome. That being said I agree it seems like it is down for maintenance all the time and the crew staff alone is horrible. Seemed like it took about five to ten minutes to dispatch a single train.
It definitely appears to be a great ride for sure! Really hoping the park and manufacturer can properly get things settled out so we can see this ride in operation again soon! Thanks for watching!
People are giving S&S a break… you hardly read any comments of people saying anything about that company… but if that had been INTAMIN that made that coaster people would skewer them
I think Kennywood was bad decision negotiating with S&S and buy new coaster?
If they were going with MACK, they should've waited a couple years. I think ElToroRyan is going to have a field day with how problematic this coaster has been. The sad thing is that Kennywood is my home park and I have yet to ride it. They have been patchy with maintenance since Palace bought them and I think this project is not only too ambitious for Kennywood but also for S&S. Hopefully they get something worked out so Curtain doesn't end up like Volcano (RIP).
Yes, I totally agree! Very well said! Really hoping we can see this ride in operation again soon! Thanks for watching!!
SC is a safe roller coaster, has always been safe to ride and will always be safe to ride when in operations / all issues affect only long term maintenance costs and sustainability
--the "fix" will correct all of these concerns and SC will have a 25yr plus design life which can be extended by major overhauls
--the concrete footers have not experienced any subsidence, cracking or issues / soil compaction tests before construction were done and the soil is excellent for stability / the footers have been measured with lasers and have not moved outside of tolerances / any reports to the contrary are false
--the ride's issues are minor but there is a cost to correct / this is where the issues present--who is going to pay for remediation?
--concept and design process is fluid for any project as it was with SC / KW wanted certain specs (i.e records), wanted SC to fit in a specific
Very well said! Thanks for writing this! 😃
@@KatiesCoasters again please click on the link below and it will give you the document You can then put it in your descriptions.
I do not see any link.
They just announced it will be closed this season
I heard... Hopefully, they can fix it permanently after this much extended closure.
I went last July after I went to the Steelers training camp. It is a park that I recommend since you haven’t been there, but take friend to ride thunderbolt.
As far as Steel Curtain, that was the reason I went. Sad it was closed, but its looks impressive nonetheless. I’m trying to go again this summer, but will make it a full day trip and not split it.
Kennywood definitely looks like a great park! Hoping Steel Curtain can re-open soon! 🤞
@@KatiesCoasters Even without Steel Curtain Kennywood is amazing. Phantom's Revenge is a world class coaster and that ride alone made my visit worth it. I hope you get out there!
Love you Katie your so intelligent 🧐
There were even rumors that Kennywood had RMC look for viable space for a coaster.
Rumor is: RMC propesed a coaster on the hill where Kennywood owns the hill besides Steel Curtain and the old train depot at the bottom. RMC tested the stregth of the hill and found it was unsuitable.
All just a rumor but big missed opportunities if true.
Also, odds are Kennywood can afford it, just doesnt want to pay it for it when they feel its S&S's fault, regardless of its true or not.
Wow, that's all very interesting! Would be cool to see an RMC come to Kennywood someday!
Thanks for watching!
@@KatiesCoasters Maybe a Raptor would work wonders if Curtain is seeing the wrecking ball.
It is sad that this coaster is so problematic!!! This is by far the best coaster in the park in my opinion! I really hope things work out and they'll have it running again. I had my doubts when I found out this was going to be manufactured by S&S because well, Galeforce in Ocean City, New Jersey was an S&S train wreck as well. I believe there was a lawsuit with that coaster as well.
I very much agree with you! Just really hoping that the park and manufacturer can settle things out properly so this ride can re-open! Thanks for watching!
@@KatiesCoasters I can agree with that! I really hope they can work things out and get it running again, it's not a trip to Kennywood without hearing Renegade by Styx playing while Steel Curtain is climbing the hill.
I love this ride, id personally take it out cause its been a complete maintenance nightmare.
Time will tell!
I've rode steel curtain 275 times. They'll definitely get it open
That's awesome dude!
I blame Mike Tomlin. 😂
Haha! 🤣
me too 😂
I already rode steel curtain
That's awesome! How'd you like it?
@@KatiesCoasters it’s one of my favorite steel coasters
It should be transformed into a zamperla multi launch coaster.
I highly doubt that happening, but yeah that'd be interesting!
@@KatiesCoasters I was joking.
@@jameshirshfeld2070 Gotcha! 🤣
@@KatiesCoasters what do you think Canada wonderland is getting for 2025.
@@jameshirshfeld2070 Hmm, I'm not sure! 🤔
Yea this ride is on my list at some point. The problem with this ride. Its a prototype. Hence the cheap price tag. When parks opt in to buy prototype rides its much cheaper but its taking a risk of the ride not working or working well.
Makes sense! Hopefully we can see it re-open soon though! Thanks for watching!
this has the slowest lift hill but i have never rode it
Interesting!
Follow the money.
Or maybe if they also do get rid of this ride maybe they can bring back The Laser Loop
why football coaster no operate
Due to maintenance and mechanical issues unfortunately.
I can’t ride it anyways imma browns fan 😂
Haha, that's too funny! 😂
Ride has amateur support system, so I'm not surprised it has other issues. S&S are almost always unreliable. $20 million is cheap as hell for a ride like this. Just like with home repair, never, ever go with the cheapest quote.
Very true words... Time will tell what the outcome of this ride will be!
Thanks for watching!
Im gonna be flat out honest with you, i think its probably getting removed.
😢
Bring back the log jammer!
After kennywood got bought by new owners they aren't in the business of getting rides that work.
Or bring back The Turnpike Cars
my opinion I think the park should've went with another manufacturer! this ride Is never open and I personally think kennywood should do away with it
It is very unfortunate how many problems this ride is giving the park... Hopefully Kennywood and S&S can get things properly figured out soon!
good job silencing my comments
Sorry, what do you mean? 🤔
@@KatiesCoasters my comments aren’t going through
It's piece of junk.