ITS OFFICIAL!!! WE FINALLY KNOW THE ORIGIN OF SUPER SAIYAN RAGE TRUNKS IN THE DBS MANGA
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- ITS OFFICIAL!!! WE FINALLY KNOW THE ORIGIN OF SUPER SAIYAN RAGE TRUNKS IN THE DBS MANGA
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What Saiyan Form is your favorite?
Ssj4
Hot take like ssj4 and ssj3 bc of how mean Goku looks in it and serious and I love the ssj god because of the red aura
Ssj4 and even the non canon ssj5 forms because ssj5 looks like a true godly form for the saiyans. And ssj4 is like an ozaru form mixed with the ssj forms. I think this is perfect for Brolys next evolution where he can somehow mix the power of the Ozaru in his Ikari state and his berserker ssj form and morph them together making a new evolution for Broly called Primal Instinct (the new canon ssj4 with a sort of new design and a new color provably giving it a greenish hue because that's the color Broly's hair is in his Berseker ssj form. I dont think Broly's body will respond to god ki like the other saiyans and will have to take a different route to achieve a new form and a new level of power to catch up to chracters like Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, and Piccolo
Ssj4 of course 🔥
Ngl it’s super saiyan gyat-
Vegeta got it from interacting with godhood every day tbh
If it was a gohan styled rage boost that would make sense after all trunks is a human saiyan hybrid like gohan
Very true I always thought that Gohans new beast from has something To do with great ape maybe and him being sayian and human so maybe it manifests in a different way
I would call it a false beast form, because you would think Trunks and Gohan would've able to get the same form since theyre both saiyan hybrids. The only thing i can think is the only reason Gohan got a beast form is because somehow he has more pote than Trunks does and Trunks ssj rage form is like almost like a false beast form where he doesnt full transform like Gohan does
@@lordhades598 kais are gods and should have god ki so i believe gohan god some god ki from the elder kai during the ritual the elder kai performed on gohan when he unlocked gohans maximum power without having to transform
@@lordhades598 I could see it being a thing for Gohan where it's like a great ape transformation but it's manifesting in a different type of way like brolys almost but Gohan has potential unleashed and he's sayian and human so maybe his great ape transformation is manifesting in a different type of way like a mix
@@justplays24k15 i think its fairly obvious at this point that while there is a "path" that any saiyan can take, all saiyans can manifest in their own unique way eventually. at this point is there ANY consistency between any of the saiyans? isnt each of their strongest, unique? even universe 6 saiyans
At first i thought that Super Saiyan Rage was called False Super Saiyan Blue or False Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, you know like False Super Saiyan from DBZ Lord Slug movie
Maybe every saiyan who participates in the god ritual can naturally become a SSgod with enough training because vegeta participated in gokus god ritual
I'm pretty sure that vegeta got ssg by training with whis
Yup…. This guy is just plainly wrong.
@@ronnymoreno406 how
it's never stated, currently vegeta's ssg is an incoherence
@@ronnymoreno406this creator relies on a lot of clickbait and head cannon
@@ElPeloXDVegeta taps into God ki while training on berus planet. They invited Goku to train after Vegeta caught up to him.
7:37 I disagree, goku's statement doesn't mean it exclusively applies to blue. Think about it like this, goku didn't need a ritual to obtain blue he just trained to obtain it with vegeta while under whis so why would goku go out of his way to hype vegeta up for obtaining blue on his own when goku did the same thing? To me goku was clearly hyping vegeta up for obtaining god ki/ super saiyan god on his own then later blue on top of the fact literally nothing implies or states vegeta did the ritual. Yes Trunks is becoming a super saiyan god through the ritual in that heros panel but that doesn't mean he couldn't obtain it through training also if you look at the context of the image they're all clearly injured and in the middle of a fight which gives trunks no time to train to learn how to use God ki, they're doing the ritual not because it's the only way for trunks to become a super saiyan god but because they don't have much time. In the offical coloring of the super manga Trunks doesn't have any special aura so he's simply using normal super saiyan 2 unlike the anime also trunks stated he kept training after he defeated Dabura and Babadi which is why his ssj2 form was getting closer to goku's ssj3 form in terms of power, it isn't that the kai training did something special to trunks he just has a more evolved ssj2 since he was perfecting it for an unknown period of time. Also since you're using non canon material as evidence I'll bring up that in multiple games and other media super saiyan rage is treated as an altered version of super saiyn 2 with nothing about kais mentioned. #EndofVideoSquad
It was a fun video and I like the idea about his kai training but the vegeta take had me scratching my head and as I scroll down *BOOM* your comment perfectly reflects the flawed parts of the video so ty for your contribution!
@@kazuha74 No problem I was just giving my thoughts on the theory is all.
i think ultimately, all saiyans eventually experience a form unique to themselves- a manifestation of their individual aptitude, emotions, experience, and personality
If anyone underestimates the goat Vegeta, they haven't been paying attention. Goku may be the main character, but he has never beaten Vegeta and Vegeta has had the most character development of almost any character in any story, much less anime. Vegeta = underated!
"i wanna be a super saiyan god! i wanna, i wanna, i wanna!"
He trained with whis 6 months before goku did he could've unlocked it then that's why he started training first to catch him up possibly...
Well, vegeta didn't have the ritual. He just trained in beerus's world, which is full of God ki. Future trunks ss rage is basically basic ss with some God ki because he technically is a kai apprentice and he also sparred with vegeta blue.
I could see maybe trunks was taking in god ki with out knowing possibly
He was black playing toy after all.
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Broly caught up to ssj god just using ikari trunks did the same. but you could be right when trunks absorbed energy for the sword of hope.
I figured between he sparring sesh with Vegeta and getting his ass handed to him by Black and Zamasu plus with his training with the supreme kai I figure he somehow absorbed some 🤷
Writers will always write new new ways of doing things, like in Marvel, maybe you have to sacrifice someone to get the soul stone, but there is another way, (I don't know the other way), and they just made a new Infinity Stone in Marvel called the "Death Stone." So no matter how finite something seems to be written, it can always be changed if the writers or creators want it to be.
Imagine fusing the manga and anime of the Goku Black arc to create something insane.
I always love when you go down the rabbit hole like this! Heck yeah!
Vegeta would never have the ritual done to him. He trained on his own and attained ssjb and, in turn ssjg. the idea Vegeta somehow got the ritual after Battle of gods makes no sense and is not in Vegeta's character. Where'd you get that idea from?
Why does SS2 trunks looks better in the manga than the anime???
Probably because it actually looks like SS2.
Because unlike the anime at the time Toyotaro actually stuck to a single character reference model sheet to be more consistent and there were no rotating animation teams doing different interpretations either.
I agree with what you were saying about trunks but I am not sure about what you were saying about vegeta achieving god on his own because if you played legends in the game giblets attains god form on his own as well around the same time shallot does and he would not have any saiyans to help him perform the ritual as he was under control and was obsessed with killing saiyans so he must have achieved it on his own the way vegeta did
The name actually implies that the form is a rage boost not a false god transformation. In Japanese the form is called ikari just like broly's transformation. The only difference is that trunks can control his power. When it comes to Gohan his great ape and super saiyan forms are what he draws his power from in his potential unleashed form. That is why Gohan surpassed Goku's and Gotenks' ssj3 forms if you consider the statements made in buu saga according to their levels of power. Gohan's beast form is most likely related to berserker/ legendary ssj but there is not alot of information to go on.
Vegeta got blue when Goku and vegeta hands struck and Goku already had god form had his form went transferred into Vegeta. I was working with shonen jump here in japan
My favorite Saiyan form would have to be Super Saiyan 4, although I would like it better if he still had ape-like feet in that form.
I don't think it can be considered a new separate transformation since it was never adressed as such in both anime and games.
It always has been referred as Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 with Rage being between the brackets [ex: Super Saiyan Trunks (Rage) / Super Saiyan 2 (Rage)].
Even Sparking Zero treats it as Future Trunks' regular Super Saiyan form (while adding blue aura).
Maybe the fandom always was wrong to consider it a new random asspull trasnformation while instead we should've always considered it a new random asspull power-up of an already existing transformation (either SS1 or SS2) though it still is an anime-only power-up which came out of nowhere.
I think there's absolutely nothing to speculate about but that's just my opinion.
I mean…we actually first saw SSj Rage from Vegeta in the Battle of Gods Movies with the “MY BULMA” line, with Beerus getting knocked on his ass before quickly retaliating, debate me if you wish, but Beerus FELT that. That wasn’t a “ow a mosquito bit me” punch, that was a “that actually hurt but I can take it” punch which is very impressive at Vegeta's current level before even getting the SSj God form.
It was a rage boost but not a new form. Trunks ssj rage (ikari) is similar to broly's ssj fury (ikari) the only difference is trunks can control his power.
@@viciousbattousai4109 the only difference was all Vegeta showed was a single spark when compared to Trunk's bonfire.
@@kanewilson8624 not true very first ssj rage boost was Teen Gohan its how he broke through to ssj2 as for sayian rageboost thats kid gohan :)
@@Lethal0809 no that was the trigger to unlock SSJ2, NOT rage
@@kanewilson8624 never mentioned rage form im talking about sayian rage boost while using ssj which is what rage boost is not trunks transformation
Finally its official
What Future Trunks has bieng Super Saiyan Rage is also called False Super Saiyan God, Goku had a light blue aura the first time he transformed into Super Saiyan God with Mortal Ki
You've actually got it wrong. You can get super Saiyan God mode two ways... The first is the ritual the second is by concentrating enough to contain your ki within your body while utilizing your ki. But then of course there is a third where you take the second method and you sit in a cloud of God energy and try to survive. I believe trunks in a way did the third method when he was going through Kai training. By simply training with the kais he probably absorbed some god energy and didn't realize it. So that blue aura outside of his yellow aura is his god energy being emitted, a lot like jiren's where jiren had about five levels of aura but where those came from... no idea
ok i heard enough lol by 2:50 let me explain you have it completely backwards trunks transformation is the true super sayian blue form because Goku and Vegeta if you rewatch or know the lore like you say then you know their transformations have always been flawed as Whis has stated numerous times they have poor control of the god ki now this Trunks is like our Gohan he had both his potentials unlocks by the elder kai and the namekian elder they hinted at that back in the tournament of power how they didnt have enought time for Goku to be able to do the ritual or whatever so either Gohans new form Beast is the next step after what trunks had or trunks form is the superior form but 100% their transformations are god ki controlled compared to Goku and Vegeta since they arent leaking ki but they control it
Bro what namek unlocked trunks’ potential? He had no one, besides minimal Z sword training in the future, let alone Kibito and Supreme kai were already gone by then after the battle with buu
If anything it’s just his saiyan genetics and his own biology taken into account that makes him similar to gohan in tranformations and due to the fact of both em being half breeds
@@CozyRomani go look it up I’m 100% sure he did get unlocked potential by a Namekian also I do agree about the hybrid genes
@@CozyRomani he had both potentials unlocked Trunks said it to Goku and Vegeta
@@nathanmilgrom4485 I think you were right when you said that beast is what comes after ssj rage (ikari) but neither trunks or Gohan have god ki because the other characters can sense their ki. God ki cannot be sensed there is a type of pressure/ presence Characters can feel but they can't tell how powerful someone is if they're using God ki.
Been saying for years that we might as well call this fAlse saiyanblue
Vegeta never unlocks a transformation on screen, except that one time.
Rage form is a energy-emotion based form and you're right, he draws energy from his emotions and not just that, you said he did kai training so, the divine training is stamina and ki based trained once you've been able to complete that you would be able to drawn out max output of power for instance..... Gohan from Buu saga, Ultimate Gohan in potential unleashed after training didn't get to learn the specs of his full training bc he was ina rush. Rage and PU(potential unleash.) draw energy from any emotion grabbing them at the moment think about Beast how it's potential unleashed and super saiyan 2, and how trunks powered up against Goku ssj3, and how Beast Gohan did the same when fought mui Goku, it's bc that training is the kais way to draw out your maximum output of ki and stamina. These half breeds diff 😅
The Dragonball Heros designs are the best. Especially in the manga. Hopefully they add them in the upcoming Sparkling Zero game.
*Vader breathez heavy* hold tf up... u mean ta tell me after ALL tha saiyanz sent ta conquer ALL those planetz no1 tried tha saiyan ritual even ONCE??? Seemz sus... *Vader breathez heavy*
Can’t really try the ritual if you don’t know it exist lol goku and vegeta had never heard of any legends of it and the saiyan race didn’t even think that super saiyan was real so i doubt they knew of a super saiyan god.
@timdagod *Vader breathez heavy* so 6 saiyanz just did it by accident tha 1st time??? *Vader breathez heavy*
I visited this channesl after awhile and where did the intro go😢😢
Have you thought about that a saiyan can unlock God ki by being in close proximity to the energy itself by means of the saiyan ability to adapt during battle. So by training with goku vegeta could have learned this. The series also hints at this in the fight that vegeta has with kabba in the tournament of the 6th and seventh. When he one shots kabba he says remember this pain and let it unlock you inferring that he would absorb God ki by the blow
Trunks is awesome
I figured ssjb was a transformation that leaked into other saiyans. And since trunks sparred with vegeta, the god energy leaked into trunks as well.
universe 6, all them saiyans cam just touch eachother becoming gods easily...
Vegeta training with whis just shows that Vegeta is hands down the better warrior goku is just the main character so he gets the shine wait till he masters his UE
they said *Fucking* thats a first for me
Super saiyan rage Trunks is the kai energy mixed with the hightened nature of super saiyan 2 making a far stronger superman
ssj4 is the G.O.A.T 4EVER but what I want to see is Gohan do Special training with Vegeta and Whis the DRAGON BALL SUPER MANGA NEEDS TO COME BACK ASAP AND THE SUPER HEROS GAME/ANIME PLEASE I'm Just Saiyan HGD✌️
Couldn't it be that their saiyan body adapted to the god ki? For Vegeta intentionally because he understands from Goku what it looks/feels like and Trunks unconsciously by being around it? So Trunks accidentally taps into it because his body tries to replicate the feeling it gets from the saiyan gods, the new limit he discovered. That's what I thought.
Also Vegeta's pride is too high to ask for help to obtain ssg so I think he just tried to tap into god ki himself by adapting to it. Like with meditating now in the manga, Vegeta tries to improve and find his own way forward based on experience. I don't think it's in Vegeta's blood to take shortcuts, I could be wrong.
Trunks with a temper tantrum.
Neat;)
i forgot where this was mention but basically none of the SS for where mastered the sayains just trained to get to the next level and mastary of the forms was never done or acomplished
Bro with the reach
Maybe it’s because Trunks is the disciple of the Supreme Kai
They all were part of the ritual just because they put their power into goku. Don't mean they didn't complete the ritual themselves.
SSJ4 will always be in my heart.
Ss blue evolution and utltimate form ....i like this explanation but dont forget that trunks and vegeta spared showing his son the blue transformation
I bellive that vegeta became a ssgod by absorbing some of beeruses god particalls and trunks must,ve absorbed some from goku black and got ssrage but the reason it wasent god trunks instead was that goku black was in a mortals body and had supreme kai god ki witch is weak g.o.d god ki and maybe its a kind of fssb😅😅😅😅 10:29
I think the super saiyan transformations are similar to how different mutant’s/mutations are for humans in marvel not exactly a like but similar
My Favorite Saiyan Transformations are: SSJ, SSJ4 and SSJGR
Goku says vegeta achieved ssg without the ritual. You also can't use db heroes canon to explain dbs canon.
Wait, when did trunks train with supreme Kai? Like cannon. Because I ain't ever seen that
Why wouldn't vegeta go ssj god , god ki is a form of ki that can be achieved through a special kind of training Like with God's basically every god was a mortal at one point and learnt this ki from greater beings who had knowledge of it so Whis training is behind vegeta achieving ssj blue and god *ritual isn't always needed
And again you are wrong. Super Saiyan god ritual has always been stated to be a shortcut to the power.
hi
Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limits Broken
Super full power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker is my favorite form.
So trunks rage is basically beast Gowan without the hair
Ss 4 , u my friend
It's clearly LSS controlled.
I know what you mean and you are kind of correct but it's called ssj ikari. The form broly is in before the green hair is the uncontrolled version of trunks' form.
Maybe ssrage is a mortal version of ssb 11:57
I'm sorry but if that happened then why was everyone but Son Goku surprised when Prince Gegeta first transformed into Super Sayain God Blue?
Plus Son Goku also said "unlike me, Vegeta did it on his own!" They didn't help him turn blue. Just God! So Prince Vegeta did it all on his own! Like attaining Super Sayain!!
This is how Vegeta got God Ki and learned Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue. ua-cam.com/video/6ZMLtKumvB8/v-deo.html
The click bait is real lol vegeta literally stated he wasn't going to go the same route as goku when it came to ssg nd using sdbh is not reliable
Lol the clickbait is real 💯
What is beast?
It’s basically Ss2 but again… quality of the story def has went down. They jumped that shark long ago
Kind of love rage
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Super Sayian God
manga is way better than the anime cus I didn't even see this 10:47
I love SS4 Gogeta
Goku is only character with super sayin rage 😡
Ssj4 or ssg
Early
Also first like
Ssj Ssj2 Ssj4 and Ssjg
This guy's whole channel is spreading dbz brainrot most of the time.
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This guy always reaches way to hard and gets it wrong most of the time
He is the male version of it's anime girl
The second I heard HEROS I f'd off lmao.
non cannon. 😂😂
Chill out.
Super saiyan rage makes no sense, no matter how farh you go to justify it and your explanation is basically a head-canon.
this us dumb af we already knew that blue us just god plus ssj
you like to talk out your a$$ on stuff like this dont you?
Vegeta got blue when Goku and vegeta hands struck and Goku already had god form had his form went transferred into Vegeta. I was working with shonen jump here in japan
That's suspicious because those are anime only scenes which would be toei studios. Shonen jump is just the magazine that hosts the manga. So I doubt they have much of a say when it comes to the anime production.
@@viciousbattousai4109 they still correlate actually. I was also an English teacher for Akira Toriyama in the late 80s to early 90s. 日本語わかりますか
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