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Steelers Treating Justin Fields Unfairly in QB Situation with Russell Wilson? | Offensive Leadership
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- The Pittsburgh Steelers are putting Russell Wilson as their top quarterback with Justin Fields behind him start training camp. But is that fair to Fields and his development? Christopher Carter and Mark Kaboly tackle that question and what that means for how the Steelers' quarterback depth chart will shake out in training camp, the 2024 season, and if Fields can turn into the future for the team.
Also, is Wilson the right leader to get the Steelers' offense back on track? Chris and Mark explore beyond just Wilson's football skills and look at how his personality could work with a young offense that includes George Pickens, Pat Freiermuth and Najee Harris. Could he be the right fit to reset offensive leadership for the Steelers?
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Fields himself said that Russ is a good leader and that he has learned a lot from Russ...
What is Fields suppose to say?
@@michaelwalker3074 why do haters always lying and trying to cause confusion? Just like their father Satan .
Russell Wilson is a class act!
And so is Justin Fields! A Class Act.
Just Fields was Mike Tomlins dream QB when he came out of OSU. He loves him, so make no mistake about it, Justin Fields is wanted in Pittsburgh.
Facts Mike T wanted to draft him but couldn’t
I agree
WHICH is the reason why Justin wanted to come here. You think Coach T aint tell that kid he wants him here? and listen Tomlin has the ear of the Rooneys
Yea I hear ya. But Mike has 3 years of tape on Justin now. And we know it's been shaky for him. He hasn't done anything to say he's a legit starter in this league.
@@dabur74 that is not what Mike T said...might wanna go look at his comments on Fields this past year.....smh
Team is already talking great about Russ and liking him
Only the older guys on defense are liking Russ. It's not good for the offense and the chemistry they will need to build.
When Russ was a rookie, Matt Flynn was presumed to be QB1, and Russ was presumed to be the backup. Russ went out and EARNED the starting position over Matt Flynn, and he justified it by becoming an all-pro.
Fields wasn’t brought to Pittsburgh to be the starter, but if he’s good enough to do that, let him prove it. He’s a grown man, and he needs to EARN what he gets. If he’s as good as people think he is, he can earn the starting position.
But about him being given a chance, he was given that when the Steelers traded for him.
To Russ’s haters, the only thing “fair” would be for the Steelers to treat Russ like sh!t.
Every time Fields goes into practice, he receives a fair chance, but a backup is a backup. Why do people act like the Steelers owe him something?
He isn’t owed anything besides a paycheck for the work he is doing. He’s not owed a crack at the starting position just because he’s younger and presumably more athletic (barely).
He’s not owed a chance to start just because certain members of the media and public like him better than they like Russ.
He isn’t owed a chance to start just because he and Russ are both new to the Steelers organization.
The Steelers TARGETED Russ, and if not for Kenny Pickett self-destructing, the Steelers would’ve had no interest in Fields.
In fact, the Bears had no interest in trading Fields to Pittsburgh until AFTER Russ signed there, and there’s a strategic reason for that.
He’s also not owed a chance to start just because SOME people think he didn’t get a fair shake in Chicago. Russ clearly didn’t get a fair shake in Denver, and unlike Fields, Russ has a long track record of success!
People need to quit trying to put Russ out to pasture! He doesn’t deserve this disrespect.
Plus, Fields isn’t another Lamar Jackson. He’s more like Cam Newton. And I’ll keep it a buck: LJ wouldn’t beat out Russ in a training camp competition either.
People will probably laugh at that because of the individual success LJ has had, but on an even playing field, with both getting #1 reps, Russ would beat him out with his passing ability. Receivers LOVE Russ because he is insanely accurate, has great velocity, and has a soft touch.
Bring up Russ missing open receivers and I’ll ask where those receivers are now. They barely have jobs because they were lazy or repeatedly ran the wrong routes.
I’ll also remind you that former and current Seahawks receivers like Doug Baldwin, Golden Tate, Jermaine Kearse, Sidney Rice, Paul Richardson, Brandon Marshall, David Moore, Ben Obomanu, Jimmy Graham, Josh Gordon, Tyler Lockett, DK Metcalf, never got missed! Antonio Brown, one of the greatest, wanted to play with Russ, as did D’Andre Hopkins.
They all sang Russ’s praises and still do.
People need to quit bashing Russ, and they need to quit assuming he isn’t still athletic.
He can still move well enough to give his team 400-500 yards in a season, and he’s a superior passer to LJ and Fields.
😂😂 this is classic. Tell us more how you never watched football until Russ started playing. Definitely can tell you've never played a down of football.
And you know why you have to say "people will laugh at that" (talking about Russ beat out LJ) cause even you know how stupid that is
@@johnnyblazersyeah, tell us about LJ's superior passing skills LMAO, tell us about LJ's moon ball, tell us about his SB ring.
@Nobody-su9km cause that SB was last year. We are talking about right now. Are you actually saying you'd rather have Russ as your QB next year than Lamar?
@@johnnyblazers yes 100% one of them actually wins on the clutch and it ain't Lamar jokeson
How are they treating him unfairly? He had an opportunity to win the job. Russ was called upon to challenge Pickett and Pickett ran away😂
Let’s all hit like button and share guys work hard here for our enjoyment
bro love the energy!!! and everyones perspective.. literally feel like you guys are in my head!!!
If you watched Lamar and Justin in college, you'll know that Justin Fields had a way better arm than Lamar Jackson. Also Fields had only 20% of the weapons last season of what the Steelers have and still had a good season.
@davidalum1325
Rooney is pushing Mike, Omar & Art for all the cookies & not just a good season, so it looks like the SteelHouse is going for the Championship with rings all around. It would have to be a perfect storm & infinite Heart & Soul. Russ & most everyone there are all on board for the '24 '25 SB.
Fields had a good season? By what measure?
@jimmymacnutrition6628 based on watching his games...your clearly a hater
@@blackbeltben2775Yep I "hate" poor play as a Bears fan. What is it you think I hate about Justin? I'm a Wilson fan.
@@blackbeltben2775Steelers are my AFC team.
The Coaching should be giving Fields lots of love. We have a potential franchise QB ready to breakout and he did breakout the second half of last season where the bears went on a great streak and Fields was the catalyst.
Let’s gooooooooooooo 😮😊❤
Mark is right on the truth & facts.
Didn't listen. Haven't even hit training camp yet.....this is the problem with media, when there is no content they make it up.
Russ & Big Ben have the same work ethic. Mike T knows.
No, they don't. Ben, was that rare talent who could win in the NFL on sheer backyard Ben Talent. He wasn't the guy in the gym, and he wasn't the guy that had all these off-season training sessions with recievers he simply showed up and showed out.
@@herewego4155 Dat?
I didn't say anything other than dedicated work ethic.
@michaelbooth4998 do u know what work ethic means? Jay glazer literally used to say Ben's off-season workout was lifting a beer.
@@michaelbooth4998yeah Big Ben didn’t work as hard as what people think he did, coming from a die hard steelers fan, AB even said he worked harder than Big Ben
So why isn't Ben the back-up? If Dan Marino's work ethic is better, why not pay him? Cripes can *_ANYONE here_* say _ANYTHING?_
Wilson is a proven vet with several pro bowls and a sb ring. Fields has done nothing so far to make me think he'll ever live up to his upside(i hope he proves me wrong) and his play has been inconsistent at best. I'd seriously question what the Steelers were doing if it wasn't Wilsons job to lose at this point in time.
Since Ben finally retired. There hasn't been a fair QB battle. Tombstone Tomlin already decides before any camp starts
Tombstone Tomlin is a new one!
Under the radar new Punter. Presley Harvin shanks directly cost the Steelers a game in 2022 & 2023 Not to mention giving other Offensive’s great field position many other times making it really tough on Defense
What’s up CC and Mark
Idk why people.go crazy over this.
Some QBs can start immediately and have success. Some may need a veteran leader to learn from first. Just like every job on the planet. Some need guidance early to understand and then grow, some are self starters.
Fields had an organization that didn't want him, didn't build for him amd moved on. They had no one he could learn from there.
When you talk about 22 points a game all they have to do different than last year is turn one Red Zone trip FG into a TD. That doesn’t seem like something that’s a big reach
The whole thing is an awesome opportunity for the SteelHouse. They are by nature prone to Championship if everyone does there job.
Mason Rudolph proved you don't need a running qb if your a pocket passer with accuracy.
How we all heard what the plan was with buddy and now “he’s being treated unfairly” ??? Next year is his time to become the guy. Russell knows too… that could be unfair to him too.
Remember the NFL is first a business; having said that, until any new player or veteran wearing a steelers uniform proves themselves on the field of play give them nothing . . .
Mason literally got to start when Ben went down, the hell is mark talking about
If things dont work out, the coaching is not to blame. Lifelong Steeler fan, done with them.
Mark Kaboly is wrong.... Steelers were interested in Justin Fields first and all along. Chicago was trying to act as if they were not going to pick up a QB in the 1st round and was asking too much for Fields. The only reason why Russell Wilson got picked up is because we were able to get him at a ridiculously low price. Nobody was interested in RW when we picked him up. Only interview he had was the Giants. That should speak volumes. We only got him because he was super cheap.
Second, let's stop with all of these accolades you guys keep hyping and pumping up about Russell Wilson. If he were so great, two HOF coaches would not have dumped him. We are wasting time hyping up Russell as if we some how are going to resurrect his 2018 season.
Finally let me tell you why starting RW is a poor business decision. You start RW and he plays ok maybe to a 5-4 start for the season and goes down with an injury or because the fans are getting tired of mediocracy. Do you really want Justin Fields coming in mid-season cold and with out timing and chemistry to start a 8 game stretch of the hardest schedule in the NFL? Will he get a fair assessment of whether we should keep him or not during that 8 game stretch? Let's say we go 4-4, was that enough to want to resign, keep and invest in JF for the future?
On the other hand, start Justin and bench RW. Let Justin play to keep his job and his future with the franchise. Let him build team chemistry and timing through the first half of the season. If he plays poorly and has to be benched, then you know what you got. Behind him on the bench is RW who is a veteran and would be better suited to come in mid-season to salvage it even at the odds we face in the second half of the season. Bottom Line Up Front (BLUF), RW has enough resume for us to know who he is at this point of his career. We need to find out who JF is from our own perspective and not Chicago's. The best hope for the future of this franchise and its QB position is to start Justin Fields. It should be his team to lose, not the other way around.
Mark you have me confused you said you were there at Ben’s year before they went 6-10 they went 15-1 in his rookie season then won sb next year???
The year before Ben was drafted, the Steelers record was 6-10. In 2004, the Steelers drafted Ben and went 15-1.
Justin is here for the future. I honestly believe that. Russ is here for the year to teach Justin how to be a professional and how to win games in the NFL.
JUSTIN AND RUSSELL ARE ALOT BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR🎉🎉🎉😂❤❤
@@waynebrown2903 without question.
😂 If he plays, he will the bust that he is, if he doesn't play he won't get a contract, because they will not pay big bucks for a guy that hasn't shown anything. So Steelers are paying Fields to hold a clipboard. They will re sign Wilson not Fields.
I want y’all to keep that same energy when Russell Wilson prove y’all wrong because if he was a white Hall of Fame quarterback the energy wouldn’t be the same but we know how the game goes.
So uh, we both said we think he will play well…
Why does Mark Kaboly have a TV on in the background? Is he bored or is he just a master multi-tasker?
JUSTIN AND RUSSELL ARE ALOT BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD😂🎉🎉❤😅😅THEY'RE WINNERS ON THE THIS STEELERS TEAM GO
JUSTIN FIELDS OR RUSSELL WILSON WILL LEAD THE STEELERS TO THE PLAYOFFS❤❤❤😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉😅😅
What does Dennis think,4 straight loosing seasons =never was.
Correction for Mark Kaboly:
1. Justin Fields wasn't made available for trade by Bears GM Ryan Poles until AFTER all NFC teams could no longer wait & had to fill their QB vacancies.
* Justin Fields wasn't available until AFTER Russell Wilson was signed.
2. Justin Fields is on a ONE YEAR CONTRACT & "sitting a year" only guarantees he's an unrestricted Free Agent & headed back to the NFC North (Lions, Vikings)...
...who faced him twice & year & knows how special he already is.
Facts is like people are slinging mud on his name, because they know how special he is....everybody knows he carried the Bears with a inept OC
Are you implying grabbing fields for a 6th might be a free draft pick upgrade next year if we trade him? Not saying we should, just curious about your NFC portion of the comment
I'm sure they do lmao. Most innacurate QB i've ever saw.
@@Nobody-su9km Which means you've never seen him play
@@scoesixtray2457 sure m8 whatever makes you happy.
QB to look out for is the rookie free agent John Rhys Plumlee
Kenny played 5 years at Pitt. He had 16 games under his belt in NFL unfortunately statistics don’t lie🤷♀️ wish him the best in Philly .
Remember how Mike "teflon" Tomlin kept his best QB, Mason Rudolph, on the bench for most of the season? Yeah, me too, here we go again. smh.
I don't understand how people can say Mason was the best QB. He lost his job to a practice squad QB, he never surplanted any QB on the depth chart, he was always #2 or #3. You saw 3 games where the team played well and say he is better in a void. They had a different OC, the WRs got their acts together and started playing for the team (low effort plays), and there was more pressure on the offense in terms of game script due to not having any safeties or linebackers. Kenny and Mason basically played on 2 different teams. The fact that you say Mason was the best QB shows how shortsighted you are. Neither of them were great, Mason got a lucky streak.
@@brucestack1658 Maybe you don't understand because you don't base your opinion on observation and critical thinking. You should try that sometime. No, Mike Tomlin showed poor coaching judgement by not giving Mason the reps and opportunity to compete. That is it pure and simple. No matter how capable a player is, Mike Tomlin will make it all about Mike Tomlin and continue to produce an underachieving and irrelevant team.
@NeverSurrender206 thanks for insulting me and refuting my point and then providing no substantial information to back up your claim. I guess you thought critically and surmised that your statement was based on opinion and facts do not back your argument. Mason had 3 good games in his tenure and suddenly he was the best QB on the roster. You ignore the fact that Kenny played injured, ignored the fact that Kenny had Canada as OC and Rudolph had Faulkner. Kenny had a gutted defense that gave up too many points because they were injured, Mason had a team where the defense was healthier; Kenny played with an O Line that was struggling, Mason played with an O Line that was above middle of the pack. Kenny had WRs who were dropping balls and putting no effort into the play, Mason got the WRs after Tomlin got them back in Line and they started playing team ball; Kenny got Najee with a Liz-Frank injury, Mason got Najee as he recovered. They played basically on 2 different offenses but somehow Mason is the better QB because they won those 3 games....it has nothing to do with the O Line, defense, running game, coordinators or any other aspect. Mason won, therefor he is the best QB. Glad your critical thinking is so one tracked....way to make an ass of yourself kid. As you were...
@@brucestack1658 if you actually watched him in training camp, he outplayed the Qb’s…. Mike Tomlin just sabotaged him so that he couldn’t win the job that’s all. When Mike Tomlin makes up his mind, nothing will change it even if it’s right in front of him
@@brucestack1658Thanks for proving my point with your rambling excuse making for Mike Tomlin. A better explanation is that the rest of the team recognized Mason Rudolphs capability, confidence, and leadership and responded accordingly for those games. As for all of your excuses to the contrary, you act like Mike Tomlin had nothing to do with all of it. And that is pathetic, and you do deserve to be insulted for speaking that illogical nonsense.
If you ask me Russ is QB1 and Justin is the future.
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Fields is in a great position and soaking up the nuances of a high-caliber veteran QB. He mentioned it in recent comments and there seems to be a nice chemistry between him and Wilson already. For the first time in his career Fields has no pressure on him and gets to compete with a quality veteran. Might be just what Fields needs to take his game up another notch and clean up his consistency issues while also pushing Russ with his toughest competition to date. Iron sharpening iron
Lol 😅😅😅 you dudes act like EVERY QB in the league doesn't have inconsistencies 😅😅😅
They are preparing Fields to be the franchise piece…and Russel was not the number one choice….he became available…Mike T always wanted Fields…then he became available…let’s speak the truth here…Russ came to us after visiting the Jets….lets be fair and stop slinging mud…
Russ is the starter we know this feilds need to sit behind russ and learn
Nothing Against Russ. Justin is ready now. So sneaky fast. Great arm. Great leader. Great work ethic. Needs to prove his defense/ game processing and guess how you get better at that? Game snaps. Not practice snaps
😂😂😂😂
Justin has to just trust the process. Look at how awesome Justin played last season after sitting on the sidelines and taking advantage of the opportunity to get mentally sharpened and yet more unstoppable. He gets a chance to learn how to win Superbowls playing real football with a real football team. Justin will become the best second string quarterback because in order to become a great leader you have to be a great follower. Make sure Russell Wilson is the MVP that way Justin can kill two birds with one stone. By sitting on the sidelines Justin will learn how to take the game into the future because Justin is a one man offense. But Justin has to learn how to keep the defense honest.
Yep Fields stood on the sidelines and learned from Bagent.
@@jimmymacnutrition6628 laughable
@@gdavis2k2Funny but true. Lots Fields could learn from Bagent. Ever Kurt Warner agrees. Fields couldn't run the offense which is why he is gone.
@@jimmymacnutrition6628 definitely not true....Bagent was not better than Fields at all...Fields won games Bagent managed...and was no threat to any team...try again..tell me you have no clue with out telling me...
@@gdavis2k2Bagent managed- To win games and Fields managed to lose them. Tell me you never watched without telling me. Haha
I think this is a wise move. Fields should sit behind Wilson unless there is some crazy breakout in training camp and preseason games. He has some areas he needs to develop...consistency and going through progressions as he reads a defense. These are things he can learn as the #2 instead of spending all of his time prepping for gameday. We get him for 1 year, he isnt a starter so that should mean a modest contract when we sign him to a longer contract. Russ probably has the higher floor whereas Justin probably has the higher ceiling. We are trying to win playoffs so experience and consistency are more important. Again, the perfect situation for Fields....develop, no pressure, a veteran to learn behind, an experienced OC, a team that is actually building a complete team (think Khalil Mack, Roquan Smith, no WRs, mediocre RB) as opposed to the Steelers who have invested in an O line, WRs, 2 solid RBs, good TEs, and has a defense so the QB doesnt have to score 30 to win.
He has a chance to redeem himself he should take it
We were winning 20-17 games with Kenny that was horrible, so we upgrade to Wilson and you believe we’ll win 21-18 games?! If that’s the case we should’ve just kept Kenny. Respectfully disagree
Mike Tomlin doesn’t believe in real quarterback competition. If he did, Mason Rudolph would’ve been starting to last two years and none of the stuff that happened with them drafting and Pickett would’ve happened.
I can see why...
Justin F is a RB playing QB have yet to see him have any Starting QB Traits
😂clown hours at night
I will give a Thumbs down due to how they treated Mason Rudolph
They let Ben treat Mason like diet and Ben didn’t mind doing that is where the problem lies. Mason chose to leave this season.
@@howardgriego2272no the problem is we kept a historically bad oc for 3 years way too long.
He sat on the team for years and the other teams would not take him.
Stop with the fields hit peices. Not one ounce of perspective regarding his chi tenure...never mention that a whole stadium chanted to keep him....what was that for nothing....or ia there more to the story. Just hit peices....pretending to be....impartial. trash youtube.
Your girl
Where is the “hit piece?”
All we said was Russell Wilson has been the more established QB. We even said Justin Fields has the potential to become the starter, but that the Steelers are going to give Wilson the first crack at it.
My guy you are just making things up just to be angry. Trash comment.
@@LockedOnSteelers...i presume your an english major. Every youtube vid on subject is slanted. If you think your being impartial....than thats your opinion. You cant address anything i said above...bc its against the narrative your painting. Zero context.
And no i dont hate you or anything....im just putting some truth into comments section....having been a Watcher of games...not stat lines.
I think there is almost no chance of any QB playing 17 games without an injury. So the seeing what Fields has will probably work itself out. I expect him to play at least 2 games for Wilson because of injury
Justin fields is better than Kyle Murray, Kenny Pickett and Cj stroud so I’m happy
Would've could've should've, Pickett is gone, let's move on.
Justin Fields should have never been drafted by my sorry ass Bears. We can't develop quarterbacks worth a shit 😢
😂
Justin is our future. We want to erase all the negative things he learned being thrown to the wolves in Chicago. Let him sit for a year and learn, learn, learn. He is an above amazing athlete.
How early will Russell, sell a career ending injury?
Lol 😅😅😅😅 you shouldnt be handed the #1 spot you should earn it... you dudes are weird... EVERY team Wilson has been on was 100% better with better coaching and skilled players that what Fields had
Justin Fields Will Ball Out In 2024
Justin Fields is only 25, he can sit and learn
Fields will take over the starting spot mid-season and Russ will stay to mentor him since he has been mentoring him since he was at Ohio State….just saying
Really? I didn't know Russell Wilson was mentoring him at Ohio State. The way Russell's former Seahawks Team-Mates tell it, Russ needed mentoring!!
@@barbaradee9304 yeah Justin already spoke it a while ago....
And Russell Wilson a wash up
Look i know I'm not crazy but did anyone else see what happen when dj Moore came to play with justin fields. Did he get a thousand yards? Now give fields a team made up like the steelers. Well i see a superbowl all day. There are very few qb's that have the college numbers that fields has. He beat out a lot of qb's by the numbers. The man has not been given a chance to be who he could be. He got picked by a funky team like Chicago. He was so good in college and he just lost out by going to a $#%&# team.
Justin Fields has all the potential, but he’s not there yet. Football needs to come back asap, because our favorite podcasts are running out of things to talk about .
Justin is every bit THERE, just waiting to prove it. He should fit perfectly in Arthur Smith's System.
@@barbaradee9304 he hasn’t shown he can be a consistent passing threat. This is a good opportunity for him to sit back and learn from a proven vet.
Fields sucks and will be a backup qb for ever...he can't play