That boost fooler did what it claimed to do. Your gauge reads 11 psi because that's what the ECM was reading. You should rebuild your turbo with a 360 kit from pure turbos and install the wicked wheel. And while you have the turbo out, install a garret turbo pedestal with the back pressure valve delete.
brendan hill I thought about that and you’re probably right, but I want to be able to see what kind of boost I’m really getting. I guess I would need regular gauges for that. I also didn’t like how it threw a p1211 code and the service engine light came on. I do want to do that stuff you mentioned but that’s major mods I can’t do right now 😂 I need a sponsor! Lmao
80HD Projects if you end up needing to do anything to your turbo I highly recommend dropping in the 38R. I feel it’s one of my best mods. Mine kept throwing the service light till I had DP Tuner do my custom tunes with his tunes it won’t defuel till 35 psi and I can’t get over 30psi so no worries there till I do my injectors! Did the light stop coming on with your tune ?
Get a mechanical fooler that goes in line on the hose that goes from the intake to the map sensor your gauge will read the right boost and the map won’t defuel Oh and don’t forget the waste gate actuator the spring is set to open at about 20 psi. You can get a 30psi actuator on line it’s 2 bolts and an e clip to change just a little fun to get to behind the turbo but that will give you more boost like you want. The p1211 code is saying the your fuel or oil isn’t keeping up with demand. My p1211 code didn’t go away until I switch out the super chips for a 6 position chip also no codes with the hydra I have now.
MrPowderEater that’s interesting because I was getting the p1211 code with my edge tuner but when I switch to my superchips it never happened again. I do plan on switching to the hydra eventually though. And cool thanks for that info! I think I want to try the turbomaster wastegate actuator🤘🏻🔥
It’s working. That gauge you have on the dash is showing what your computer is seeing. You put a boost fooler on. Now it thinks your not making enough. Might be pulling to many volts out of the wire now
Chris Horst brendan hill I thought about that and you’re probably right, but I want to be able to see what kind of boost I’m really getting. I guess I would need regular gauges for that. I also didn’t like how it threw a p1211 code and the service engine light came on.
You can get a ffd boost fooler kit I have it on mine just be careful with it you can get 0 to 50 psi with it or more just DONT OVER DO IT MAKE SURE YOUR BOOST GAUGE works
Might look into "Big Boost" if you can still find it. It installs in-line of the MAP sensor hose. Powerstrokehelp has a video out that talks about the "Big Boost", what it does, what it looks like & how it is installed. "7.3 High Performance Mods 1 of 3". Just as easy as the wire you installed. I put one on mine & I can get over 30psi. I got mine on eBay years ago but could not find one to send you a link. He has a lot of great ideas in that video as well as the 2nd video for performance upgrades you can do. I am getting ready to perform the fuel system upgrades he recommends. Got the material from Auto Zone for the Hutch / harpoon mod in the tank, got the banjo bolts & fuel regulator spring from Riff Raff & the fuel bowl mod can be done with simple tools.
John Van Aalst nice bro I’ll check out those videos and look into those mods. Thanks a lot!🤘🏻 and damn bro that’s nice. I really want to do the hutch mod too but I really want to buy a full kit rather than trying to get her the parts myself since the truck is my only vehicle and I need to to get to work everyday so I need to be able to get the job done in one day and not worry about missing parts.
This probably is working but I would say your wastegate is opening early bc they get weaker over time. My wastegate would open with 3psi on it. Basically you start losing boost before building any.
Mitchell Henry makes sense bro and I know you are correct about that happening over time. But I found a hole in my intercooler pipe (check out that video!) from rubbing on a stainless steel fitting coming out of the power steering pump and by replacing that intercooler pipe I went from 21 to 24 psi. Then I got the hydra and now I get 25psi easily! Now it’s too much on the stock turbo and I get turbo surge whenever I hit 25psi so I guess it’s time to upgrade the turbo soon 🤷🏻♂️ lol Check out some of my newer videos so you can see!!
Cody, some sound advice for you is to do the Hutch mod, get the Riffraff "OCR", Riffraff billet compressor turbo wheel and Hydra chip in this order and you have yourself a whole new truck! Take it from me and don't waste your time n money on other BS👍🏻
Jon R Yeah I want to do the hutch mod. Just having a hard time cuz no one will ship it to California and I want to buy a kit instead of trying to gather all the parts myself since it’s my only vehicle and I need to get the job done in a day without the risk of missing parts. I know someone that lives in another state though so I might get it shipped to them. I’ll look into those other mods as well, thank you Jon!🙌🏻🙏🏻🤘🏻💯
I hear that one bud! The Hutch isn't all that difficult and I did it on my 7.3 with zero help and had the tank back in and truck running in about 5 hours and I'm no mechanic either. I live in CA as well and get EVERYTHING I need shipped from RRD...if you want any tips before you get started on it lmk bud👊
No prob dude! Or if you feel like taking a trip up my way we can knock it out in a few hours at my place, I'm 1 hour west of South Lake Tahoe! You can take my 01' 7.3 on a rip too🤘🏻
Jon R that would be cool bro! Maybe one day, South Lake Tahoe is 500 miles from me so it’ll have to be a weekend trip or something! Lol But that’s badass of you bro, I’ll have to make the trip one day for sure🤘🏻💯
Fuel injectors, fuel pump upgrade maybe better fuel flow... intercooler and intercooler piping......maybe a custom etune or shop dyno tune after that and your future turbo upgrade. Keep in mind the preset tunners are tested in similar trucks. But not in the same places. Weather, living altitude of where you live do make a difference so the more personalized the tune is the better it will be for you. Thats assuming tunes work similar to import cars!!
Cristian Martinez yeah that’s all good stuff! I’m trying to get all the small upgrades out of the way before doing stuff like bigger injectors. I also want to eventually get the adrenaline HPOP too🤘🏻🔥
You need to permanently shut the wastegate door closed. That red hose is how the computer "increases" boost when the pedal is floored. Don't reconnect the red hose. You don't need the wastegate controller. The only reason I don't toss mine, is that I want the PCM to know it is still on.
When the actuator/red line is in a passive mode it allows the wastegate door to open easily. A restricted amount of idlle air pressure from the intake travels along the red line to the wastegate. You don't want that for proformance. When you floor it the PCM bypasses the red line. So, it acts like it is disconnected. Therefore, for optimal performance leave it how you found it. It was a good idea to plug the port on the spider. That is a restricted port anyway.
Viking Child okay awesome information thank you! I’ll look into how to shut the wastegate and try it out. Also I’ll have to order new fittings so I can reconnect the red vacuum line. Thanks for the info!!🙌🏻🙏🏻🤘🏻
@@NoHalfAss Sorry, I was rambling a bit. Those red/green lines are not for vacuum, they are for pressized air only. You don't need to replace the 90 degree boot and red line.
@@NoHalfAss The way you have the hoses right now will work fine. You could put a higher psi wastegate on it. This is what I did. The stock one was about 8 psi before it opened, tested on my air compressor. I don't know how much different it is when installed the motor. I just put a 15 psi on the turbo and connected it directly to the restricted port on the intake. So, the aftermarket one I bought has a maximum of 15 psi. And my boost gauge says my pressure doesn't exceed 15. So, it is working for me. They have 25 and 30 psi wastegates for sale also. If that is what you are looking for.
I have the KC300X turbo now so I’m building way more boost now 🤘🏻 I just installed a mechanical boost gauge and haven’t tested it out fully yet but I think I maxing out around 32-33 psi
If its a stock wastegate they max at 21 psi take the hose off it and it will jump up i was stock on 18 psi and took it off and i get 28psi out of it now
80HD Projects thanks I’ve been researching and just couldn’t find a straight answer. Watched videos on people installing a sensor but thanks for the quick reply !
Damn, that sucks.. lol, well cant win them all, haha.., im pretty sure your right about the superchips tuner being different... I've been told that different tunes/tuners are way different from eachother.... I also have the 1211 code... but were pretty sure it's the o-rings on the injectors... but I'm starting to suspect it's the bullydog tuner because sct and bullydog are owned by the same company..... I want to try another tuner...lol.. my truck doesn't throw that code without the tuner , but the injectors are original and my truck has 215k now.....
Joey Gonzales yeah I’ve been told it’s from the tuners giving the truck more power then the HPOP/injectors can handle but some tuners override the code and some don’t (like the edge and bullydog). But I plan on getting the hydra soon, when I hit 2k subs. I talk about that a little bit in the vid I’m uploading tomorrow🤘🏻🔥
Alright, sounds like your boost fooler was working. Because your reading your data off the factory sensor. It has told the pcm your only getting 11 psi hence fooling it. It still felt like 21 psi. Your factory boost pressure sensor, can only read up to X amount maybe 21 psi. Even if you have 28psi. I have the edge cts2 insight with the expandable sensors. Use one of their boost sensors. Benefits it not only reads higher it reads in 1/10 increments. ie 21.1, 21.2.
Mitch 7.3 powerstroke that makes sense, and I was actually thinking the same thing. But I’m the end I still decided it wasn’t worth it because the truck didn’t feel like it was getting more boost and I didn’t like that it threw a code and made the service engine soon light come on. But I might try the boost fooler from riffraff instead of the electronic boost fooler and see if we get better results!
I could be wrong, there are probably other units that would do that. but its not some high tech million dollar elaborate unit. It looks like its just earthing a sensor wire. Giving it a messed up reading or maybe halfing the sensor signal.That sensor would be what the pcm is reading. So if it develops a reading disability. It cant do its job. If it were through a tuner and i would imagine it would do that.
I had a hydra PHP installed and when I hit the throttle my check engine light comes on. The shop says it's bc of overboost. They told me to get a boost fooler
Man, man i cannot stop laughing---put that thing on the ground and piss on it---you don't need that crap or any other similar to it for that matter. Watch the video on my page, read all the description and understand it. It will become apparent to you that you can do a MAP sensor delete and have all the boost you want till your turbo fly's off the pedestal.
ryan delfin yeah I’ve been thinking about that a lot lately! Was thinking about going with the turbomaster waste gate actuator. It’s not a canister style like the stock on or banks and aFe sell, it’s just a spring with a tensioning nut so you can adjust it to whatever psi you want it set at
Get rid of the supership. They’re garbage and they don’t tune your trans therefore it’ll sooner or later fry your trans. Do some research before you do these mods. Trying things out is fun but not when you only have one vehicle. Good luck with the truck!
Bartek Witas actually the superchips tuner does tune the trans which is a big reason I switched from the edge tuner that the truck had when I bought it. It makes the trans shifts more firm especially in the tow performance tune. But eventually I plan to get the hydra tuner
That boost fooler did what it claimed to do. Your gauge reads 11 psi because that's what the ECM was reading. You should rebuild your turbo with a 360 kit from pure turbos and install the wicked wheel. And while you have the turbo out, install a garret turbo pedestal with the back pressure valve delete.
brendan hill I thought about that and you’re probably right, but I want to be able to see what kind of boost I’m really getting. I guess I would need regular gauges for that. I also didn’t like how it threw a p1211 code and the service engine light came on. I do want to do that stuff you mentioned but that’s major mods I can’t do right now 😂 I need a sponsor! Lmao
80HD Projects if you end up needing to do anything to your turbo I highly recommend dropping in the 38R. I feel it’s one of my best mods. Mine kept throwing the service light till I had DP Tuner do my custom tunes with his tunes it won’t defuel till 35 psi and I can’t get over 30psi so no worries there till I do my injectors! Did the light stop coming on with your tune ?
And a banks wastegate actuator
That green plug on front of your spider needs to be tightened. That’s a big boost leak! Made a big difference in my truck
Get a mechanical fooler that goes in line on the hose that goes from the intake to the map sensor your gauge will read the right boost and the map won’t defuel Oh and don’t forget the waste gate actuator the spring is set to open at about 20 psi. You can get a 30psi actuator on line it’s 2 bolts and an e clip to change just a little fun to get to behind the turbo but that will give you more boost like you want. The p1211 code is saying the your fuel or oil isn’t keeping up with demand. My p1211 code didn’t go away until I switch out the super chips for a 6 position chip also no codes with the hydra I have now.
MrPowderEater that’s interesting because I was getting the p1211 code with my edge tuner but when I switch to my superchips it never happened again. I do plan on switching to the hydra eventually though. And cool thanks for that info! I think I want to try the turbomaster wastegate actuator🤘🏻🔥
It’s working. That gauge you have on the dash is showing what your computer is seeing. You put a boost fooler on. Now it thinks your not making enough. Might be pulling to many volts out of the wire now
Chris Horst brendan hill I thought about that and you’re probably right, but I want to be able to see what kind of boost I’m really getting. I guess I would need regular gauges for that. I also didn’t like how it threw a p1211 code and the service engine light came on.
I wonder if you did cut that green wire and ground it yourself.
You can get a ffd boost fooler kit I have it on mine just be careful with it you can get 0 to 50 psi with it or more just DONT OVER DO IT MAKE SURE YOUR BOOST GAUGE works
Cool, Thanks for the info man!!
Nice vid just wish you would’ve mentioned it ain’t worth buying before watching 10min
I would recommend using the Riffraff Overboost Code Regulator, much better design.
Motorhead Junkie okay I’ll check it out! Thanks!!
Somehow I missed this vid last year, good vid, straight up as always👍
Thank you bro🤘🏻
Cody that boost fooler will always trip your engine light. I had with all mods
Agreed with getting the riffraff controller and get a dp tuner or get it tuned, 30psi...
Might look into "Big Boost" if you can still find it. It installs in-line of the MAP sensor hose. Powerstrokehelp has a video out that talks about the "Big Boost", what it does, what it looks like & how it is installed. "7.3 High Performance Mods 1 of 3". Just as easy as the wire you installed. I put one on mine & I can get over 30psi. I got mine on eBay years ago but could not find one to send you a link. He has a lot of great ideas in that video as well as the 2nd video for performance upgrades you can do. I am getting ready to perform the fuel system upgrades he recommends. Got the material from Auto Zone for the Hutch / harpoon mod in the tank, got the banjo bolts & fuel regulator spring from Riff Raff & the fuel bowl mod can be done with simple tools.
John Van Aalst nice bro I’ll check out those videos and look into those mods. Thanks a lot!🤘🏻 and damn bro that’s nice. I really want to do the hutch mod too but I really want to buy a full kit rather than trying to get her the parts myself since the truck is my only vehicle and I need to to get to work everyday so I need to be able to get the job done in one day and not worry about missing parts.
This probably is working but I would say your wastegate is opening early bc they get weaker over time. My wastegate would open with 3psi on it. Basically you start losing boost before building any.
Mitchell Henry makes sense bro and I know you are correct about that happening over time. But I found a hole in my intercooler pipe (check out that video!) from rubbing on a stainless steel fitting coming out of the power steering pump and by replacing that intercooler pipe I went from 21 to 24 psi. Then I got the hydra and now I get 25psi easily! Now it’s too much on the stock turbo and I get turbo surge whenever I hit 25psi so I guess it’s time to upgrade the turbo soon 🤷🏻♂️ lol
Check out some of my newer videos so you can see!!
@@NoHalfAss these trucks are a blast. I keep finding more and more ways to spend money on it. I'll be following the build bro
Mitchell Henry hahahaha yes so true! Once you start it never ends!😂🤣🤣
Thanks bro appreciate it!🙏🏻🙌🏻
Cody, some sound advice for you is to do the Hutch mod, get the Riffraff "OCR", Riffraff billet compressor turbo wheel and Hydra chip in this order and you have yourself a whole new truck! Take it from me and don't waste your time n money on other BS👍🏻
Jon R Yeah I want to do the hutch mod. Just having a hard time cuz no one will ship it to California and I want to buy a kit instead of trying to gather all the parts myself since it’s my only vehicle and I need to get the job done in a day without the risk of missing parts. I know someone that lives in another state though so I might get it shipped to them. I’ll look into those other mods as well, thank you Jon!🙌🏻🙏🏻🤘🏻💯
I hear that one bud! The Hutch isn't all that difficult and I did it on my 7.3 with zero help and had the tank back in and truck running in about 5 hours and I'm no mechanic either.
I live in CA as well and get EVERYTHING I need shipped from RRD...if you want any tips before you get started on it lmk bud👊
Jon R for sure man thank you! I appreciate that!🙏🏻💯
No prob dude! Or if you feel like taking a trip up my way we can knock it out in a few hours at my place, I'm 1 hour west of South Lake Tahoe! You can take my 01' 7.3 on a rip too🤘🏻
Jon R that would be cool bro! Maybe one day, South Lake Tahoe is 500 miles from me so it’ll have to be a weekend trip or something! Lol
But that’s badass of you bro, I’ll have to make the trip one day for sure🤘🏻💯
Cody you should get. Install a AFE intake it’s bigger and better intake than stock by a lousy 15%
Clayton Smith I have it already! And I love it! Thank you bro!🤘🏻
Fuel injectors, fuel pump upgrade maybe better fuel flow... intercooler and intercooler piping......maybe a custom etune or shop dyno tune after that and your future turbo upgrade.
Keep in mind the preset tunners are tested in similar trucks. But not in the same places.
Weather, living altitude of where you live do make a difference so the more personalized the tune is the better it will be for you. Thats assuming tunes work similar to import cars!!
Once you get into a deeper tune. People can start messing more with the fuel air ratios and rev limiters and all that good stuff
Cristian Martinez yeah that’s all good stuff! I’m trying to get all the small upgrades out of the way before doing stuff like bigger injectors. I also want to eventually get the adrenaline HPOP too🤘🏻🔥
Cristian Martinez and I’ll be going with the hydra tuner and some custom tunes eventually💯
It’s about $340.00 on Amazon
You need to permanently shut the wastegate door closed.
That red hose is how the computer "increases" boost when the pedal is floored.
Don't reconnect the red hose.
You don't need the wastegate controller. The only reason I don't toss mine, is that I want the PCM to know it is still on.
When the actuator/red line is in a passive mode it allows the wastegate door to open easily. A restricted amount of idlle air pressure from the intake travels along the red line to the wastegate.
You don't want that for proformance. When you floor it the PCM bypasses the red line. So, it acts like it is disconnected.
Therefore, for optimal performance leave it how you found it.
It was a good idea to plug the port on the spider. That is a restricted port anyway.
Viking Child okay awesome information thank you! I’ll look into how to shut the wastegate and try it out. Also I’ll have to order new fittings so I can reconnect the red vacuum line. Thanks for the info!!🙌🏻🙏🏻🤘🏻
@@NoHalfAss
Sorry, I was rambling a bit. Those red/green lines are not for vacuum, they are for pressized air only. You don't need to replace the 90 degree boot and red line.
Viking Child but I should replace it on the other sides? Like the wastegate and where the green line is?
@@NoHalfAss
The way you have the hoses right now will work fine.
You could put a higher psi wastegate on it. This is what I did. The stock one was about 8 psi before it opened, tested on my air compressor. I don't know how much different it is when installed the motor. I just put a 15 psi on the turbo and connected it directly to the restricted port on the intake. So, the aftermarket one I bought has a maximum of 15 psi. And my boost gauge says my pressure doesn't exceed 15. So, it is working for me. They have 25 and 30 psi wastegates for sale also. If that is what you are looking for.
Just saw your video, so does the red hose not need to be connected on the wastegate at all?
Diego Vega mine hasn’t been connected for a couple years and I push 25psi of boost so seems fine to me 🤷🏻♂️😂
I put a map sensor from a 6.0 and never had an issue with over boost again.
Othon Sanchez interesting! Good to know, thanks🤘🏻🔥💯
Thanks
You should try a boost relief valve like the dieselsite one or a bd one or the full force one
I have the KC300X turbo now so I’m building way more boost now 🤘🏻 I just installed a mechanical boost gauge and haven’t tested it out fully yet but I think I maxing out around 32-33 psi
If its a stock wastegate they max at 21 psi take the hose off it and it will jump up i was stock on 18 psi and took it off and i get 28psi out of it now
Did this give you trans temp without doing any sensor install?
Sand Asylum yes sir. It reads everything through the obdII. However there is available attachments like egt temperature probes.
80HD Projects thanks I’ve been researching and just couldn’t find a straight answer. Watched videos on people installing a sensor but thanks for the quick reply !
Sand Asylum for sure man, anytime!🤘🏻🔥
Damn, that sucks.. lol, well cant win them all, haha.., im pretty sure your right about the superchips tuner being different... I've been told that different tunes/tuners are way different from eachother.... I also have the 1211 code... but were pretty sure it's the o-rings on the injectors... but I'm starting to suspect it's the bullydog tuner because sct and bullydog are owned by the same company..... I want to try another tuner...lol.. my truck doesn't throw that code without the tuner , but the injectors are original and my truck has 215k now.....
Joey Gonzales yeah I’ve been told it’s from the tuners giving the truck more power then the HPOP/injectors can handle but some tuners override the code and some don’t (like the edge and bullydog). But I plan on getting the hydra soon, when I hit 2k subs. I talk about that a little bit in the vid I’m uploading tomorrow🤘🏻🔥
Just unplug the map sensor and you will see a difference
Interesting, I’ll try it out! Thanks
What does that do
Alright, sounds like your boost fooler was working. Because your reading your data off the factory sensor. It has told the pcm your only getting 11 psi hence fooling it. It still felt like 21 psi. Your factory boost pressure sensor, can only read up to X amount maybe 21 psi. Even if you have 28psi.
I have the edge cts2 insight with the expandable sensors. Use one of their boost sensors. Benefits it not only reads higher it reads in 1/10 increments. ie 21.1, 21.2.
Mitch 7.3 powerstroke that makes sense, and I was actually thinking the same thing. But I’m the end I still decided it wasn’t worth it because the truck didn’t feel like it was getting more boost and I didn’t like that it threw a code and made the service engine soon light come on. But I might try the boost fooler from riffraff instead of the electronic boost fooler and see if we get better results!
But why would the fooler read half of what he was really getting? Doesn't it just fool it once it goes past the defueling psi?
I could be wrong, there are probably other units that would do that. but its not some high tech million dollar elaborate unit. It looks like its just earthing a sensor wire. Giving it a messed up reading or maybe halfing the sensor signal.That sensor would be what the pcm is reading. So if it develops a reading disability. It cant do its job. If it were through a tuner and i would imagine it would do that.
what tuner do u have on it now
JGunna847 superchips🤘🏻
have you heard of hydra?
JGunna847 yes. My subscribers are always telling me to get it!😂 I plan to upgrade to it eventually for sure🤘🏻
its the best thing for our 7.3
JGunna847 yeah that’s what everyone says! I’ll get one soon!💯
You Wouldn’t need a boost fooled with a Hydra. Stops defueling and no overboost code. Cap that red hose
John Taylor yeah I plan on getting the hydra eventually. Thanks for the info man!🤘🏻🔥
I had a hydra PHP installed and when I hit the throttle my check engine light comes on. The shop says it's bc of overboost. They told me to get a boost fooler
@@vsujones it’s not tuned correctly.
@@IndiansAuto Mine does the same. How do I get the correct tunes?
I was thinking of getting that one but opt for The RiffRaff diesel on instead. I Didn’t install it yet so I’ve yet to see if it works. Aloha 🤙🏽
lbj808 nice bro let me know when you install it how it works! I’m curious to know!
If reconnect that red hose you should more boost I think hose opens your waste gate for more boost.
Do you have a boost to probe or are you just reading it from the cts
Juice Box just the cts monitor
Man, man i cannot stop laughing---put that thing on the ground and piss
on it---you don't need that crap or any other similar to it for that
matter. Watch the video on my page, read all the description and
understand it. It will become apparent to you that you can do a MAP
sensor delete and have all the boost you want till your turbo fly's off
the pedestal.
The Saw Man lol okay man I’ll check it out for sure! Thanks🤘🏻
Need to change ur waste gate actuator
ryan delfin yeah I’ve been thinking about that a lot lately! Was thinking about going with the turbomaster waste gate actuator. It’s not a canister style like the stock on or banks and aFe sell, it’s just a spring with a tensioning nut so you can adjust it to whatever psi you want it set at
Get rid of the supership. They’re garbage and they don’t tune your trans therefore it’ll sooner or later fry your trans. Do some research before you do these mods. Trying things out is fun but not when you only have one vehicle. Good luck with the truck!
Bartek Witas actually the superchips tuner does tune the trans which is a big reason I switched from the edge tuner that the truck had when I bought it. It makes the trans shifts more firm especially in the tow performance tune. But eventually I plan to get the hydra tuner