JOKE'S ON YOU! | Batman: The Enemy Within - Episode 5 (FINALE)
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2018
- The joke's on you because the finale of Batman Enemy Within starts now!
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the subtle change from “____ will remember that” to “____ will never forget that” is really effective
bruh, i never noticed that. Holy crap, that literally changes everything I thought about the game
Yeah too bad we can't see it past the bloody facecam
can I get a time stamp?
@@graceholbert2126 too bad you didn't hear Jack say it instead
It might just be j. The vigilante ending but it also shows when in joker breaks the game subtitles instead of forgot that it’s “totally forgot to remeber that”
"joker will turn bad"
*continues to make choices like not trusting joker which turns him bad
One might say it was a self fulfilling prophecy
Not trusting Joker is the most sane thing to do.
@@leoncoben6983 Maybe the Joker, sure- but the person Jack didn't trust was John Doe. John didn't lie to Bruce. Not once. He was genuine, and a damn good friend. He tried his best to satisfy the things Bruce wanted of him, but apparently it wasn't enough. He was doomed to be reduced to nothing but a murderous "bad guy". I feel for John in Jack's playthrough; he was betrayed by a close friend, and resorted to the worst possible option. Jack made him the Joker- and for what? Some fight? Batman v. Joker for the 50th time over? I'm just- very exasperated, and even more than that, disappointed.
@@a-wild-goose Man you must feel sorry for all the criminals that undercover cops betray then too. Joker is still partaking in criminal activities that lead to the death and injury of officers and could've potentially gotten civilians hurt or killed. Why? Because he has a crush on a psycho. I don't care he treated Bruce well if clearly has a disregard for the well being of other people as he even set Zsasz to attack another inmate in the first game. That isn't the signs of a good person no matter what his intentions were.
@@leoncoben6983 No, no I don’t feel sorry for just any criminal who gets backstabbed. Because the situation with John and Bruce has more depth. Your comment is a giant oversimplification of something that’s _wayyyyy_ more complicated than a criminal getting betrayed by an underdover cop. I made a really, really long comment explaining my point of view, but I deleted it ‘cause I don’t want to plunge myself into an argument like that. You can have your perspective- I have mine. Good day.
While playing this I actually got attached to John, he wasn’t a bad guy at all he just needs help. Like he genuinely trusted Bruce and considered him his friend. I got the vigilante path which I found incredibly interesting and saw the joker from a whole new perspective and I considered him my friend to the end.
Yea man, the fight between John and Bruce and RDR2 (no spoilers just in case) made me cry.
Same! I always helped him in the game.
Yup
Yea
Same
I love how jack's instant thought when offered a piece of meat is " *who* is that?"
This has to be the first time telltale choice actually mattered. The joker vigilante path was completely different than the joker villain path. I'm impressed!
Diamond Beau
Dude, the entire episode is different because of your choices.
Celestine Buendia
Actually the entire episode is different because of two choices in episode 4
If you tell Vigilante Joker to not kill and then again to not kill it says, "Joker totally forgot to remember that." Nice job, Telltale.😂
Ikr exactly
Game of Thrones? When you got to choose who lives and dies in Episode 5?
"I'm going to be a good Batman and protect this town" after deliberately creating the Joker.
"Better find a cannon." Haha, that's funny!
Proceeds not to choose that option -_-
So what? It was the funny option but not the one he believed in. He didn’t believe the option. *That’s kind of the point.*
Ikr
The Vigilante Episode five has only two scenes that are the same: Tiffany on the roof and Alfred leaving/Giving up Batman. I recommend you go and play that one as well. And I believe the final battle is better in the Vigilante is much more impactful and emotional.
Thumbs up if you want Jack to play the alternate episode 5.
He doesn't replay these episodes, so he won't do that. Besides, Jack prefers the Joker as a villain like most Batman fans know him as. That's far better than sending the Joker down a vigilante path he's not suited for.
AntiTroll1000 I honestly believe the other episode is a bit better. The other villains actually get closure, Tiffany's role feels more in the foreground, Joker looks better (even Jack found villain Joker looking weird), and the overall finale feels more satisfying and concluding.
MrWhatdafuBOOM why was the music different when Selina and Bruce were fighting Harley and Joker?
@BlueTaco DId you not see Jack's pinned comment about copyright issues? The first time he posted this, UA-cam blocked it worldwide because of copyrighted music being in the game. It was reuploaded after Robin was done editing the music to avoid the same problem.
BlueTaco No, I mean Vigilante Joker.
Jack- I'm gonna be a good Batman
Me- you made John joker but ok sure
Devin Smithwick he becomes joker anyways so
Falerob1 he could have avoided that but Jack's a idiot
@@lilwalgreenscoldandflu6968 he becomes joker regardless of the ending
Falerob1 dude it's just a prank
James The smol bean damn u must be hella gay
I honestly really enjoy the Telltale take on Batman. This is one of my favorite Batman stories. It's such a unique and refreshing take on established characters. Joker and Batman's dynamic is set up really well and I love that they form a strong friendship before the heartbreaking climax. This could have been like so many of the usual Batman stories, but they risked going their own way with it. Batman has just become so unfeeling and off-putting in most of his portrayals. The Dark Knight trilogy was great, but Batman really hates being Batman for some reason even though he refuses to give up Batman until the end. And despite the fact that Joker causes irreparable damage to Gotham just to get to Batman, Batman being partially responsible for Rhaz al ghoul's plan almost succeeding but then letting him die (which wouldn't happen), and then not saving him being a big motivator for Talia, no one ever really sees him as the cause for his Rouges Gallery. In Telltale's take he is clearly responsible for a lot of what happens, but you are forced to continue on as Batman in large part because now that he's created such major threats, he has to be there to keep them in check. The comics sometimes look into this idea, but comic Batman is always the grizzled veteran Batman who hates and distrusts everyone and isn't so much about helping innocents as he is interested in being Batman. Comic book Batman is the version of him where Bruce Wayne is the disguise, and I personally hate that. It makes him frustrating to follow because all these characters you like he shits on, and any emotion that he should be showing he never does. He's just always angry. This isn't always true technically, but he's not ever really a likeable super hero. Batman has his code and an obsession with justice yes, but I love that in this he's willing to think outside the box and willing to form attachments. I could go on but no one cares what I think. I'm a rando on the internet. I will just end with this though: I get that Batman is traditionally a depressed character set in his ways. He isn't supposed to act like he cares for people because when he does they die or get hurt, and he understands that he created the hells he faces and is sentenced to a life of crime-fighting to ensure that his good outweighs the bad in the end. That's cool. But there's something special about a Batman story willing to show him as Bruce Wayne dedicating his life to help a city so that no one has to suffer like him. And I say Bruce Wayne because in this, Batman is just a symbol, and Bruce is the real identity.
I know this is a late reply but I totally agree. I hate that Bruce is this brooding, emotionless hardened veteran in so many interpretations. I love the idea of Bruce genuinely wanting to be Batman in order to help people and bring justice to Gotham because he wants the city to be a better place. And I love the idea of Bruce being conflicted with his identities and facing challenges because of his identities, like Alfred leaving him. I agree that in The Dark Knight Trilogy, while it's fantastic, all of Batman's enemies just kind of appear. I think it's so much more intriguing when Batman is kind of responsible for the creation of some of his enemies, like with John in this series (although I feel like Telltale could've done a better job of planting seeds of distrust with John and Bruce, like have John be more unpredictable and unstable and having him lie more and kill more before he becomes the Joker so that the player becomes more conflicted on whether or not they should trust John). Him being responsible means that he has to be held accountable and keep his enemies in check. I also agree that Batman should be a symbol rather than Bruce's true identity, because if it is his true identity then it makes it seem like Bruce is the one and only Batman, when I think that the symbol of Batman should make the people of Gotham feel like anyone can be Batman and inspire them to do good. And I could lead to something along the lines of the ending to The Dark Knight Rises, where Bruce retires with Selina and goes into hiding and the legacy of Batman is passed on to someone else (maybe Terry McGinnis?).
Anyways, I know that this was a long rant, but I just really like where Telltale is going with this interpretation of the Batman storyline and I like their willingness to take risks and not just do a rehash of a tale as old as time. I really want to see where the story goes from here.
@@terranova3678 agree 100%
@@terranova3678 bloody hell, both of you wrote novels 😂 fair play I wouldn't have the patience to do that
Yes
If you think that about comic bruce, you should check out Shadow of the Bat! Modern comics Batman is kind of like that, but in a lot of 70s or 90s comics you can see how much he cares about his city and the people, he makes jokes, he is a loving father even 😅 but i agree on a lot of what you said, Batman wouldn't be as much as a symbol without Bruce's heart of gold
35:02 Oh my gosh the thing Avesta said there: خاک بر سر
That means "shit!"
I'm actually impressed that they included an Iranian character in a high rated game. Wtf
I just made a comment wondering! Thank you
@@godlugner5327 the literal translation would be "dirt on head" so more accurately she called joker a shithead
Personally I think vigilante Joker's ending was more tragic for the story
This playthrough is just depressing. John is only lashing out here because the player chooses to make him into a monster, john even shares his pain at the dinner party and is reluctant of trying to kill bruce. Helping john in his darkest hour is the best thing to do so that he doesnt become a villain. The vigilante path is way better, and way less tragic and heartbreaking.
I find that ending way better. But i find it more heart breaking
Right I hate the guy who played I was nice to John/joker the entire story if season 3 comes out I hope I can be just as nice
And I think this jerk didn’t understand he was in a dark place if you look at his episode 4 he says deep down he’s the “joker” no he’s not he wants to be Bruce’s friend and if anything he’s the smartest person in that series figure out he was the bat
@@maddoxpuca9452 your stupid, its his playthrough, let him do what he wants. If you dont like it, leave.
@@maddoxpuca9452 Why are you judging people for how they play the game. Go watch another playthrough if you have a problem with how he plays
This is my fourth time rewatching this series and I get so sad and frustrated with how he treated John. Anybody else agree?
yup
Yeah
Yes😢
Alfred's got a SOLID point. Joker's existence only happened because Jack pushed it to happen. If he had seen him as only John Doe and not Joker, then he would have turned out different. John was unstable and needed a friend to be there for him and help him from showing his dark . However instead of helping a friend in need, Jack pushed John to become Joker instead. That's John's point when he says Bruce (Jack) killed John. You deserted him and killed what was left of John.
"Once he becomes Joker their friendship goes out of the window"
Well, yeah, but... not exactly? He doesn't just become evil simply for the sake of being evil (unlike his other versions), everything he did was solely because of their friendship, because it was ruined and he felt hurt and betrayed by Bruce. Heck, all the events in this episode were Joker's revenge for their ruined friendship, for John being rejected. He wasn't just playing with Bruce because it's fun, he wanted to show how hurt and bitter he was. I mean, this whole thing is bringing a lot of depth into Joker's character and their relationship.
And ooh boy don't even get me started on the vigilante path. As many people said, that's a completely different path and you get a completely different outcome even though you still confront Joker at some point. And I'd say this path is much more interesting since it's unique. We always see Bats and Joker confronting each other. but you don't normally see Joker trying to be a good guy.
And like, I get your skepticism, but in this case it's.. a bit unfair. Still enjoyed the series tho.
i personally prefer villain plus joker looks...weird in the vigilante path i don't like it
yeah but atleast less people die in the vigilante path... i feel like that's the only better thing from both routes
Thats a lot of fucking words
@@heatherwilliamson3268 It's like two paragraphs dude.
@@zerocrashmurilo Bro Vigilante is so much fun. It's great
Jack plz do the vigilante route. The playthrough is actually entirely different despite you thinking telltale doesnt do a job with the choices, which is what you referenced in every telltale video that you released. I assure you that replaying through to get the vigilante playthrough will be worth it.
Yes Jack Could Play it.
arsenic tastes pretty good It would be awesome
He is right though. I played all Telltale games so I can't disagree with him, the only one that really made an impact, was saving Asher/Rodrick in Game Of Thrones, which did change a few scenes which would involve them, and the way the house would go down in flames. Buuut the end was still the same, their house being burnt down in flames and then escaping almost dead on a horse. Now, this series, is finally something new, it shows that Telltale finally listened to all the complaints about all choices being the same, and I'm really glad they did. I hope they continue the good job like they did on this season and episode.
Ah that would be my dream come true
arsenic tastes pretty good ye that wuld be awsome!!!
While some parts of the story weren't good and many of the choices don't have a big impact on the story, I really like telltale take on batman, the ideas and interpretation on the characters are unique and different.
I really hope warner and dc try to continue this story because I want to see what happens next.
Same I like it too I just don’t like Harley that much
Regina's assistant: Thank y-
Batman: *Hangs up*
Me: Rude
Lol
Jack the villan joker and Vigilante joker are COMPLEATLY diffrent, it is a whole diffrent episode
GingerProductions vigilante joker is stronger though
Compleatly
Rubix Cube dumbass
@@wonky3783 yeah there is one scene that is the same, the scene with Alfred.
Still the same outcome though
Jack: what a sweetheart, he cares Also Jack in the last episode: I don’t trust him
Jack: "I wanted to make John the Joker to make it more fun and interesting."
The game is much more interesting when you don't make John Joker earlier. It's much funner when he's a vigilante. When he's not the Joker earlier.
(And the ending where you're John's friend is literally the best.)
I like it when John go stabby stab :))
I’m kinda disappointed that jack judged the game without even knowing about the vigilante path.
Diamond Beau If you get Vigilante Joker the literal WHOLE 5th episode is different.
Booper Dooper I agree with you mostly. But I mean it’s not like all the endings are the same for everything. Yes everything has to come together eventually, that’s for the sake of story ofc. Even though I agree I wish there were more paths.
Booper Dooper Walking Dead S4 and Batman S2 have done/are doing good with the choices making an impact
Booper Dooper There’s also the relationship with Louis or Violet or just being single and the person you save leads to a slightly different path while in the Delta ship (With Louis, Violet is mad and Louis accidentally kills that one lady and with Vi, Louis loses his tongue and Vi ends up shooting Minerva without killing her)
Plus throughout the season AJ is being influenced by Clem, and the lead writer confirmed that the way AJ is taught, and the relationships you have with the other people at the school (Aasim, Willy, Ruby, Omar) will be important in the last episode
Booper Dooper The thing about those Quantic Dream games is that they had a much higher budget and took a long time (years) to be made and released, meanwhile with Telltale they were kinda rushed to have like 3 different games going on, some with weak choices (at times even weak stories). But yeah I understand what you mean about the choices not mattering much in the past games, though this Batman game gives me hope they can do a good job and give Clementine’s story various endings
Sean. The vigilante ending is ENTIRELY different. It’s an entirely different episode. A lot of people and I highly recommend you play it
It's jack you're not his friend.
Michael Sinclair Is there a law or something?
Lol Mikey here is butthurt
Michael Sinclair Oh no he called him his real name *sue him*
Michael Sinclair You're not his friend either so stop getting so pissed whenever somebody requests the other ending.
1:21:09
when u restling with ur bro and then he stops moving after you hit him
Jesus that went a little dark
1:16:56 I love how they're just throwing stuff at eachother
I feel like the song that he added is better than the Copyrighted song they put in. Also the way he ended it was beautiful.
vigilante joker has a huge different from the villanous joker
We're taking the Batmobile?
We're taking the Batmobile!
You should try the vigilante ending , its completely different than the one you played and it also has a different post credit scene
Shaun J he's not going to
Shaun J congratulations, you are the 1,000th person to comment this
45:25 this is good. Sean managed the outcome where John Doe comes out for a moment and then it goes straight back into Joker.
That was a nice beat.
I love Telltales Joker. You actually feel bad for him
Yes
Vigilante Joker actually gives you a completely different Episode 5 with all new scenes. It's amazing how much effort they put into that particular choice
John: "I guess we know what you aren't"
Jack: "Vegan"
But I’m not
LOL
Jacks gay
Idk, I don’t really like how Jack complained about the writing setting up Joker and Batman as mortal enemies like how they are in the comics, but he’s the one who deliberately said he wanted John to be the Joker BECAUSE he wanted to see that same dynamic.
when Harley hit Bruce with the hammer the noise of a gunshot was the noise of the impact on his skull
*Change all your online usernames to ‘Captain Obvious’ please.*
@@ice_wallow_come9741 this was legit a year ago wtf lol
It is true that you have to fight the Joker whether he's a vigilante or villain. But both paths are actually very different with only 3/8 overlapping scenes(The one with Waller in the end, with Alfred in the end, and the cutscene with the talk with Tiffany in the end). As many people have said, both paths feel like their own very different episodes. In fact, the Joker *Possible spoiler alert*
isn't even the primary villain down the Vigilante path. Of course, whether you play it is still up to you.
Jack, choosing vigilante Joker isn't the same. The episode is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT from the one you just played. I highly recommend going back and replaying the fifth episode!!
He'll have to reply 4 as well, to make Joker go down the Vigilante path.
*replay
And yet he never did... I love how the entire comment section is just this and this only.
@@anonymouslucario285 yeah vigilante path is something people really wanted and he chooses to ignore since its been so long
Ikr
I like the vigilante ending more because you don't see it often I kept trying to save joker hoping he'd become good or something 🤣
The vigilante play-through of episode 5 is actually completely different, Jack
I like the vigilante run way better
Its way more joker than this one
I prefer villain tbh
You assume that the other playthrough is the same, it is not I promise you. You do fight him, but it's entirely different circumstances, reasons, and events. Joker/John is completely different. I don't know what to tell you about not feeling an emotional connection to this. You made a decision last episode soly based on wanting to get the SAME Joker you've seen over and over again, and you got that. If you're not happy with this outcome, then that's on you. But you then dismiss the possibility of your choices mattering, ask for a game where you don't make choices at all and then say that you hope you're choices matter next season. And then also say you're not shitting on them, even though almost every episode this season, at the end, you spend five minutes shitting on them because of how unhappy you are with them not improving. This is the best season/episode of any Telltale games that they have put out recently, and they have obviously put the most effort into, even after laying off like 25% of their employees in a effort to make fewer and higher quality games. Which, I feel, they have thus far succeeded at doing. Maybe try the vigilante route, you might like it better or at least see that your choices did in fact matter for how John turns out.
My man hitting us with the truth! Good on you brother!
Dude he's a UA-camr making videos for entertainment. he's not here to take them seriously.
Mike Sinclair I agree
@@mojavecourier6987 Wow, you don't know jack at all do you? smh
Harley: cold bloodedly murders a security guard with a shot to the head with a high caliber pistol infront of the boardroom of the biggest company in the city
Jack: nah she bluffin'
3:15 jack is becoming John Doe/ Joker
Jack's such a great guy he was so dedicated to get this video up that he took the time to edit and fix it he is the best
When Felix does it, it's repetitive and a way to annoy people. Why is that?
Jack doesn’t edit his videos pixelpit does
Yeah!!
Dude editing videos is not that cool
Trash it would be a waste not to Marcus dibble had to re do the whole vid jacks lucky
The thing about you not feeling the emotional toll of John and Bruce’s relationship is because of the choices you made and how you interpreted their friendship.
You see, John admired Bruce, he wanted to BE like Bruce (hence the vigilante ending) and to “be loved” by Bruce (actual quote from different dialogue options). He was gonna be the joker no matter what, but Joker was his vigilante name too. He would always be the Joker, it was how much you valued the friendship that determined how John turned out. Sean, you definitely didn’t value John as a friend as much and betrayed him making him into the ruthless killer, but John just wanted Bruce to need him as much as he needed Bruce.
It was, in a fucked up way, romantic.
Ah bromance!
you mean Batmance?
This joker is a god reason
Where dose he get all the Knifes from.
He’s loaded
Please. For the love of god.
Find the comma key.
Bruce: What did you do!?
Joker: I shaved my eyebrow!
Bruce: Why did you do that!?
Joker: I don't know!
You got what you wanted all along jack. You kept telling yourself what all the characters were going to become and your choices made it happen. You can't criticize Telltale for this one, there's basically an entirely different game if you had trusted john earlier...
Exactly
"I guess we know what you aren't..."
"Vegan."
I have watched this so many times but this is the only time I noticed that John has one eyebrow shaved off.
I never noticed that! Thanks😂
Gordon being all "Villians weren't as bad before showed up" is kinda bullshit.
It's already established that the Riddler was "before his time" and the members of the Pact seemed to have already been active before Batman encountered them.
PLEASE go back and also do a vigilante joker run it's like a whole other episode and it's worth it you have to go back and try it it's no where near the same
Not happening. This IS episode 5 of the season, and he is done as of this video. He doesn't go back and replay Telltale games. Why the hell would he suddenly change that now?
yooo chill it was just a suggestion and plus you know you'd want jack to do it. i understand that jack shouldnt do this cuz well you know its a bit of work, but let the man say what he wants to say
To reiterate AntiTroll1000's point (without sounding like someone with anger issues), Jack likely wouldn't go back and do another episode of a series with such a "final" ending, so to speak.
But I think if we spread the message that it really is nothing like this episode based on that one change, he might realize he was being a bit presumptuous.
No, the choices actually matter this time and there are two different episodes. I was suprised too.
1:49:03 Why is your Heath Ledger Joker impression so accurate that it's actually eerie?
I ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS JOKER ACTUALLY SAYING IT JESUS CHRIST
Man this playthrough ended on a pretty depressing note. If only Jack saw John as an original character, rather than just the Joker.
hey jack! i just thought i'd mention that episode 5 can be completely different (minus two scenes) depending on if you choose villain or vigilante joker. i know that telltale can tend to lie when they say "your choices matter", but they really did a good job of making your decisions matter for the last episode. just thought i'd let you know, since you were wondering about the statistics!
Yup, if you had gotten vigilante joker, this episode would have been TOTALLY different. For Catwoman, she could have been arrested, ran away, cleared, or worked for the agency.
edit: with the exception of the scene at the end with Alfred and Tiffany. Everyone had that. As for the options just for this episode, it's out of 100% of players who got the villain Joker as opposed to vigilante joker.
Tiffany scenes are also completely different if you don't tell her you're Batman.
Oh yeah, I forgot that was an option. I've seen Jack and Ray play so I was excited to see how Jack's episode was going to go.
If you tell Vigilante Joker to not kill and then again to not kill it says, "Joker totally forgot to remember that." Nice job, Telltale.😂
Fuckin bruh lmao
Jack says he turned joker bad because he likes joker as a villain not vigilante. Thing is he ends up becoming a villain in the vigilante playthrough too because he cant do being a hero so jack would have gotten villain joker anyway and episode 5 would have actually been fun, he should at least check it out in his own time off camera
Edit: well if you tell joker you always thought of him as a friend it's very possible he doesn't turn into a villain, but he still had to go to prison
Actually the entire episode 5 depends on if you trust John or not. It's not the same episode.
jack probably won't care since he never replays these episodes and even if he did, he'd still think that they're pretty much the same but yeah i share your probable frustrations
Tyrell Wilson I don't think he doesn't care, he just has his ways of playing games, and his own way of playing games for the channel.
I am JayRts it all ends the same
GejiTV it would take too much work to actually change that much of it but I mean the ending is still kind of different you fight yes but it's not the same
No, it doesn't.
The stuff with the joker broke my heart. Poor John
Aww Alfred was my favorite ☹️ I actually cried when I saw him leave he's closer to a dad to Bruce than ever I wish they made an option to keep in touch with Alfred but I hope this isn't goodbye I'm sure Bruce is heartbroken and I -think- bet Alfred is too
So did I
I cried when I saw the Give up Batman Ending. Dunno what got me to cry but boi was it something.
I dare say the vigilante path makes up for the quick time fight sequences of this path and the things that are told via tiffany and the after credits scene and just better ending as a whole which is why I'm watching this episode instead of just playing the game and removing my save game
The pain when Jack says Vigilante is the same episode with just a reskin when the Vigilante episode is actually one of the best things Telltale has ever done, and this season is actually the most impactful Telltale has ever been in a game ever. Can't blame him if he doesn't know, but it pains me nonetheless
I'm still confused as to what your trying to say Jack. Yea if you do the vigilante Joker you end up fighting him. But your wrong it's not the same or "Skined over" as you said. I did the vigilante Joker and the gameplay and everything was completely different compared to what I have just watched you play.
Also in the Guardians game there is way different endings. You can destroy the artifacts thing and can't save enyone toward the end. Or if you don't destroy it you can save Starlords mom, or rockets girlfriend, or nebula or drax's daughter.
Huntzilla 1999 Agreed, plus John's attitude towards you can be completely different in the vigilante ending. Depending on the dialogue choices you make in the episode, it's possible to still be on friendly terms with John in one of the endings.
I wish jack played that play through
U can also still be friends with John at the end of vigilante
He made an uneducated claim but we are human after all. .-. But I prefer vigilante over this. Also did anyone else get the feeling jack was bitter through this entire thing?
If you guys thought what happened to cat woman in Jack’s game was rare, me and 0.1% of players had cat woman’s criminal record stay, I just couldn’t give up John for it (I was playing the Vigilante ending btw.)
I like John and Harley relationship dynamic in this. Its the closest they've had to a healthy relationship. And I like how is Joker in love is the one chasing after her instead of Harley
"I'll extend an olive branch. It'll be sharpened and I'm going to poke her with it, but I'll extend one."
I gotta say, after watching Jack play episode five the villain way, and me playing the vigilante way, the vigilante way was so much better. Way less people died and I Tiffany suited up and became my sidekick! Plus I was able to tell Selina that Bruce loved her!
CaptainFlash 18 you forgot you got to stay friends with John at the end
Diamond Beau same. Joker felt like joker with this way. I never liked how the roles were switched.
I'm pretty sure in the vigilante version of events Tiffany becomes Huntress
"That was kinda a crappy line " he picks the line😂
35:50
Jack, reading: love, your best enymy
Jack, smiling brightly, maybe even proudly: Naww that’s a sweetheart.
Me: ... I seriously doubted that he would ship these two when he didn’t ask John if he was in love in Bruce back at the alley when he confessed that he’s in love, but now... wow. I-I’m so happy, I’m crying. *ugly, proud sobbing*
Oh ffs.
People ship these two all the time without even discovering this game.
This gave me a stoke to read. Please learn to use some punctuation marks, please.
someone please tell jack that vigilante joker and villain joker episodes are different.
Zachman400 They are almost completely different, apart from the last few scenes
Who cares? It's a fucking game. He makes videos he wants to do for our entertainment and he moves on.
Michael Sinclair bruh if you don't fuck off with these shitty comments of yours.
@@zonnytiger106 whow theres no need for that
The choices matter!!! If you have played the vigilante ending, you would get a whole different game!
Diamond Beau
You most likely haven't played it, dude
Diamond Beau
Absolute cancer
Chill dudes!
The fact that he can joke around even tho with all the chemical bombs and stuff happening just shows us how much of a positive dude he is
I just realized that it ended where the entire series began.
What do you mean?
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 That Office. In Season 1 Episode 1 was where we saw Bruce For the First time. (Not Batman)
@@MariusBoss11458 We see Bruce for the first time in the manor getting ready for the event at the same time Batman is fighting in the mayor's office.
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 Yup. And that place is probably where it is. I'm not 100% sure but it's somewhere similar
Actually Jackaboyo the Vigilante Joker and Villian Joker paths are pretty different. They both end with Joker getting the crap beaten out of him but everything else is WAY different
When tiff said "how can you go out there again" I saw one of the things you could say was *BECAUSE I'M BATMAN* and I instantly thought of HISHE/how it should of ended 😂😂
Daniel Robinson-temara same lol
Daniel Robinson-temara same here haha
Wow jack really just called a guy who raised him a coward *claps*
TellTale really did Joker justice in this series, they nailed the Batman and Joker dynamic to a tee, I like it when they stay loyal to the "abusive relationship" between them.
you thought WRONG!!!!! vigilante joker has WAY different scenes than the villain one
Please play the part with vigilante Joker to, that part focuses more on Joker and Batman
i agree but we both know he wont play it, he never replays these episodes and this is the ending he wanted, it really is a damn shame though, vigilante joker ending is far superior in almost every way
You're a rare gaming UA-camr gem in that you got the Villain Joker path in your Let's Play, a lot of people went down the Vigilante Joker path.
I was actually crying my ass off with the Alfred part. I’ve cried at two Batman games so far (Arkham Knight and Telltale).
(Uses the Joker's head as a hammer)
*RING*
Yes, i won a Teddy!
Qwenton McKenzie i was gonna ask that too
Qwenton McKenzie hey sponsored the channel
Goldenknux you have to sponsor jack
Qwenton McKenzie you have to sponsor jack to get the picture
As the fellow up there has answered, yes, i'm sponsoring Jack's channel.
Lol, everybody asks me the same in all the videos hahaha 😅
Alfred: "The paths may diverge, but they end in the same place"
Wait, does he *know* that he's in a Telltale game?!
Lord Yathnon It's ironic that he says that in literally the only Telltale game where your choices have lasting effects.
Megashark 101 Or maybe this is just the widest diamond yet, and at the end of season 5, all choices will lead to the same end...
Alfred is an elderly Deadpool confirmed
Omg I read that exactly as Alfred said it wtf
Jbeck8524 same
Didn't realize at the villain path, many people got killed and injured. But on the vigilante path, well less people dies. Glad i choose the Vigilante path
When Bruce flips the table
Jack : THIS PARTY SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!
I really recommend you try the vigilante route jack. It kinda feels like a more true route.
as much as i wish he'd play it too, you and i both know that he'll never play it, he doesn't ever replay these episodes and this is the ending he wanted. it is still such a shame because the vigilante ending so so much much better in every way
Tyrell Wilson Agreed
Tyrell Wilson in terms of amount of people deaths over Gotham City, yup for vigilante route. In terms of bunch of backstabbing and keep fighting between Bruce and Joker (John), Villain route.
Is no one else noticing that the kneecap shooting that happened to Jim is exactly what Jack went through with would you rather yesterday
That's the first thing I thought about when that happened
But tbf, what’s batman without Alfred ? Imagine him going out without speaking to Alfred. I chose to give up Alfred only because it was the end of the game and I didn’t wanna give up on batman, but if it were more important, I’d give up batman.
It's Telltale's Batman, not Telltale's Alfred
This is what you wanted Jack.
Am I the only one who wasn’t even remotely angry or disappointed that Tiffany killed Riddler? 😂
nah i was cool with it
I was not cool with the fact that we couldn't arrest her. Little sh*t.
Jackson Holder You can arrest her but only in the villain path since you can make Waller arrest her for you.
Spoiler!
I mean there's no need to get angry over a video game character killing another one. Plus it's the Riddler so it's good he's dead.
(Warning: Spoilers Ahead)
Saying that the "B" side of this episode is just the Joker as a vigilante instead of a villain is a massive understatement. If you play it, it feels like an entirely different episode. And while it does end with Batman getting into a fight with Joker, the reasons, conditions, and outcome of the relationship between the two characters are entirely different.
Here, Bruce and his allies fought Joker to save the city. In the vigilante side, Batman is fighting with Joker pretty much on his own because Joker's style of vigilantism is harsh and lethal and, despite Batman's best efforts to guide him, a difference of views ends up leading to a falling out that puts the lives of Gotham's authority figures in danger (Joker views them all as corrupt and serving a broken justice system while Batman believes that most are good and that the system, for the most part, works well enough). And once it's all over, you still have the option to salvage whatever's left of the friendship between the two or snuff it out for good. So, rather than being about good vs evil, it's more about clashing viewpoints and ideology which still fits remarkably well for the character of John Doe.
Past that point, though, after the whole thing with the agency being after you, teaming up with Joker, fighting Bane, standing up to Waller and showing her that she's not untouchable as far as the law or public opinion goes, going up against a freshly made Suicide Squad, and then saving Waller...it does merge with this one in the end with Waller's closing conversation, confronting Tiffany, and the whole Alfred thing.
As for the post-credits scene, one of three different scenes will play out; if you manage to salvage Joker's friendship then Bruce visits him in Arkham. If you become enemies and keep your Batman persona then Batman will stop by Arkham to check in on Joker from afar. If you become enemies and give up being Batman to keep Alfred around then nobody visits Joker and he gets angry at the idea of Bruce/Batman moving on from him.
but there is also the ending where the Joker either burns the doll or puts lipstick on it (like with jack's endng)...what's that about?
Ani-mations I believe he was talking about the endings you can get via vigilante
ohhhhhh
Max Dunham y
This Joker was really nice, i liked a lot, both villain and vigilante.
And..."We're taking the Batmobile!"
"I've never seen him move that fast... Just to save My husband Jimothy
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Wow you had a good chance to say *BECAUSE IM BATMAN*
Jack i think you should play the other ending.
Sean, you _need_ to play the vigilante version. It's an entirely different story, a much better version where all their budget went. Very enjoyable. Do it for a stream if you must and later post to YT. You played this one really heartlessly and didn't explore the characters, but this one didn't have half as good a story as the other. Try it and judge from there, I'm sure your opinion will take a 180° turn.
I dont think he played it heartlessly. I think he played it knowing from the cafe what kind of Joker he wanted. He wanted the animated series Joker, he wanted the villain. And those of us who got the Vigilante Joker wanted to see if we could reform John to see if we could completely change the Batman franchise. My goal of the game was to be good to Gordon, and that shaped my line dramatically. I'm sure the line would be different if I made a playthrough where I was good to Waller.
He was complete jerk throughout the entire episode to John he didn't show one hint of remorse.
sure you want villain joker so he can be like the comic books... but since its you're choice does that make you the creator of a monster? it makes me wonder if making john a villain when you know he will kill people makes you a murderer for making him what he is by the sole choices you make
Zerocrash Murilo that is the whole point of the villain episode you did make John the monster. Vigilante was more tragic because you and John try to prevent him free him becoming Joker but he just can’t resist it.
Jack saying he pushed John over the edge on purpose is such a joke he kept saying he was gonna turn in to the joker either way. Dudes so fake
1:18:50 I don’t think people really appreciate this last fight scenes music...
what's the name?
I’m glad no one died at Joker’s dinner party but I thought it would be something where you had to pick one to save